| 00:00.06 | cladhaire | it can go whever you'd like it |
| 00:00.10 | cladhaire | wherever is most appripriate |
| 00:04.20 | kergoth | yay, my rogue alt finally looks like a rogue. gear thats somewhat similar in look and color for once |
| 00:07.40 | downforce | so, in my enable, I have a "self:RegisterEvent("SPECIAL_PLAYER_BUFF_LOST")" which calls "function AceInnerFire:SPECIAL_PLAYER_BUFF_LOST(buff)", which runs some validation, then if it's true, what I want it to do is cast a spell, but it has to be on a call press, hence KeyMinder. |
| 00:07.40 | downforce | So what I should do is put "self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_MOVEMENT") " in the SPECIAL_PLAYER_BUFF_LOST function, then create another function "function AceInnerFire:PLAYER_MOVEMENT(m) and add CastSpellByName("spell") to this function? |
| 00:08.53 | downforce | or can I keep self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_MOVEMENT") in my function, but how do I ... umm terminology problem ... get the return from this within that function? |
| 01:12.31 | downforce | Got it working ... basically ... needs some work though |
| 01:17.33 | GenNMX | Does ANYONE know if the BonusActionButtons have a valid Slot number? |
| 01:26.50 | Plorkyeran | don't they change by class or something? |
| 01:49.07 | downforce | I hardly know how to code in Ace, let alone complete standalone addons, but I think the one i'm ace'ing does some serious looping! |
| 01:49.51 | downforce | can't tell what I should replicate and what's excess guff. |
| 01:51.41 | kergoth | i like starting from scratch. clean slate |
| 01:51.46 | kergoth | pull over bit by bit and see how it behaves |
| 01:51.54 | kergoth | if you cant figure out why something is there, try it without it |
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| 02:17.38 | downforce | yeah, that's what i'm doing |
| 02:17.54 | downforce | anyway, off to bed, 2:20am here |
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| 03:35.49 | Tem|MC | so for those not in the other channel |
| 03:35.58 | Tem|MC | Here is a fun extension to EditBoxes |
| 03:35.59 | Tem|MC | http://wow.pastebin.com/459098 |
| 03:49.22 | Codayus | What's it do? |
| 03:54.33 | Tem|MC | Gets the Caret position |
| 03:54.41 | Tem|MC | and Sets the Caret position |
| 03:55.15 | Codayus | Caret = ? |
| 03:55.47 | Codayus | Oh, nevermind. |
| 03:55.55 | Codayus | Hadn't heard that usage before. |
| 05:36.13 | Tem|MC | So um... how do you turn on debug mode? |
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| 05:45.27 | Kaelten | clad you there? |
| 05:46.50 | Tem|MC | Kaelten: in KC_AR you need to increase the width of the frame |
| 05:47.05 | Tem|MC | my repair costs are often longer than the space there for them |
| 05:47.08 | Tem|MC | and it looks bad |
| 05:47.11 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 05:47.23 | Kaelten | odd I tested it with 55gold 55 silver and 55 copper |
| 05:49.42 | Tem|MC | you use a different font |
| 05:50.01 | Tem|MC | I'm using the Game Default fonts |
| 05:50.26 | Tem|MC | You should use FontString:GetStringWidth and dynamically size the frame |
| 05:51.45 | Kaelten | either that or just include the font I use |
| 05:51.58 | Kaelten | although I'm sure there are people who won't like it or can't read it so I won't do that |
| 05:54.18 | clad|afk | Tem: /acedebug addon AddonName |
| 05:56.51 | Tem|MC | I don't like to use fonts other than the included game fonts |
| 05:57.20 | Codayus | Why? |
| 05:57.26 | Tem|MC | I just don't |
| 05:57.31 | Tem|MC | I dunno why |
| 05:59.01 | Kaelten | clad why is acehooks outputting a lot of spam to the chat box |
| 05:59.10 | clad|afk | Kael: huh? |
| 05:59.52 | clad|afk | AceHooks doesn't output anything an error() if something goes wrong, or self:debug if there is a non-fatal error |
| 05:59.55 | Kaelten | something about Global function : id Handler function: id Unhook it |
| 06:00.06 | clad|afk | what version are you using? |
| 06:00.10 | clad|afk | checkout the latest versino from SVN |
| 06:00.17 | clad|afk | i had some debug messages I never disabled. |
| 06:00.23 | clad|afk | and found a minor error |
| 06:00.42 | Kaelten | got a link to the svn |
| 06:00.44 | clad|afk | i updated the post. but never bumped it. |
| 06:00.59 | clad|afk | https://opensvn.csie.org/Ace/branches/Ace/hooks |
| 06:02.20 | Kaelten | ok new issue |
| 06:02.27 | Kaelten | KCET's hooks aren't working |
| 06:03.56 | clad|afk | what the hell is KCET =) |
| 06:03.56 | clad|afk | lol |
| 06:04.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:04.08 | Kaelten | KC_EnhancedTrades |
| 06:04.18 | clad|afk | k |
| 06:04.23 | clad|afk | what does it say? |
| 06:04.27 | Kaelten | nothing |
| 06:04.46 | clad|afk | k .. gimme a sec .. lemme get to a place i can /camp and download it. |
| 06:04.52 | clad|afk | do you haev a link to it? |
| 06:04.53 | clad|afk | so i can download |
| 06:05.06 | Kaelten | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3974 |
| 06:06.15 | clad|afk | i should be good to use the local version of kci that i have.. or should i use the packaged one? |
| 06:06.20 | Kaelten | aha I know whats going on |
| 06:06.31 | Kaelten | no you can keep the one you have |
| 06:06.37 | clad|afk | whats happening? |
| 06:06.56 | Cair | post on the thread in the staff forum, Dolby wants to know what you need |
| 06:07.12 | Kaelten | problem is KCET was the one mod that used nocall |
| 06:07.19 | Kaelten | and now that no call isn't there it breaks it |
| 06:07.22 | clad|afk | nocall shouldn't be an issue. |
| 06:07.29 | Kaelten | no it is |
| 06:07.31 | clad|afk | unless you expect it to do mething. |
| 06:07.47 | Kaelten | I don't want the default blizz function to run |
| 06:07.51 | clad|afk | *nod* |
| 06:07.58 | Kaelten | but I still wanted to be nice to addons who hooked it before me |
| 06:08.09 | clad|afk | unfortunately that's impossible in AceHooks. |
| 06:08.30 | Kaelten | ya |
| 06:08.59 | Kaelten | so I'm just going to have to either a) callhook before and overright the work, which means a lot of useless processing, or b) just not callhook |
| 06:09.10 | clad|afk | i suppose you can leave the old AceHook module in there for compat until you get things update. |
| 06:09.17 | clad|afk | or move the old AceHook local to KCI |
| 06:09.21 | clad|afk | err KCET |
| 06:09.28 | clad|afk | which is certainly an option |
| 06:09.30 | Kaelten | no I'll update KCET when 1.3 is released |
| 06:09.43 | Kaelten | it needs some work anyway |
| 06:09.55 | Kaelten | anywho. I'm off to play for a few to test out the acehooks |
| 06:09.58 | Kaelten | later guys. |
| 06:10.06 | clad|afk | *wave* |
| 06:10.08 | clad|afk | i'm headed to bed |
| 06:10.11 | Kaelten|AFK | night clad |
| 06:12.22 | clad|bed | Kael we could somewhat emulate the thing you're looking for |
| 06:12.31 | clad|bed | by keeping a single central registry of what we've hook in all ace addons |
| 06:12.42 | clad|bed | but that never guarantees that someone hasn't hooked before us, sadly |
| 06:12.43 | clad|bed | *shrug* |
| 06:12.44 | clad|bed | lemme know |
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| 06:40.07 | Tem|MC | mother fucker |
| 06:40.19 | Tem|MC | AceDebug.lua:43: attempt to index local `node' (a nil value) |
| 06:40.32 | Tem|MC | I'm too damn good at breaking shit |
| 06:40.43 | Tem|MC | and I fucking hate string parsing |
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| 07:26.36 | Codayus | ...no one will take Anduin? Heh. |
| 07:27.42 | Tain | Yeah I'm surprised. :) |
| 07:31.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:51.23 | Tem|MC | Ug! |
| 07:51.42 | Tem|MC | I HATE Money displays with words! |
| 07:51.45 | Tem|MC | HATE HATE HATE |
| 07:57.21 | Codayus | ? |
| 08:04.10 | Tem|MC | So ugly |
| 08:30.50 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 08:31.02 | Tekkub | you wean 12g13s12c? |
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| 08:31.14 | Tekkub | I prefer those over the stupid icons |
| 08:31.32 | Tekkub | anywho where's that bitch Rasmus at I need to whine at him |
| 08:45.57 | Tem|MC | yeah I mean that |
| 08:46.08 | Tem|MC | as well as 12 Gold 13 Silver 12c |
| 08:46.13 | Tem|MC | as well as 12 Gold 13 Silver 12 Copper* |
| 08:46.20 | Tem|MC | I HATE it |
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| 11:36.28 | RasmusKL | Meh, how do you get an item name from bags if you know the bag and slot? |
| 11:43.36 | RasmusKL | Nvm, using the link. |
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| 11:53.44 | RasmusKL | Tekkub: I love SpecialEvents, wrote my first addon with it :-) |
| 11:57.45 | RasmusKL | Made a cheap copy of MountMe, called ArmMe, for equipping certain weapons when I'm in/out of stealth. |
| 11:58.41 | RasmusKL | and the mod works flawlessly, and is only about 3k in size, comments and all :-P |
| 12:17.46 | Codayus | Hmm, I keep meaning to make a mod that does that. Make sure you upload it somewhere... |
| 12:17.52 | Codayus | Would save me the trouble. :-) |
| 12:19.51 | RasmusKL | It's nice for equipping an ambush dagger as a sword rogue, it's actually the only use :-) |
| 12:21.16 | RasmusKL | Btw Codayus, the demonslaying works even better now that I'm dual wielding it :_) |
| 12:21.37 | Codayus | As a dagger rogue who mostly raids, it wouldn't be very useful for me. |
| 12:21.54 | Codayus | I have a stealth macro that equips my dagger when I enter stealth if I don't have it equipped. |
| 12:22.02 | Codayus | And I don't *WANT* to swap to a sword when I leave stealth. |
| 12:22.17 | Codayus | But I still have it on my todo list. |
| 12:22.18 | RasmusKL | Nod. |
| 12:22.24 | RasmusKL | I'll upload it. |
| 12:22.28 | RasmusKL | Just need to fix the last issue. |
| 12:28.42 | RasmusKL | So what do you need Codayus? for it to be useful? |
| 12:29.44 | Codayus | Just so long as you can make it A) Equip a dagger when you stealth, and B) Equip an SS weapon when you Ambush, it'd be good. |
| 12:30.14 | Codayus | Ambush or cheapshot, actually. |
| 12:30.26 | RasmusKL | Well, wouldn't it be the same when you leave stealth? |
| 12:30.42 | Codayus | ....yeah, that's a better idea. |
| 12:30.50 | Codayus | B) Equip an SS weapon when you leave stealth. |
| 12:31.15 | Codayus | And C) Have an option to toggle both behaviours, I suppose? |
| 12:34.10 | RasmusKL | It's the same behavoiur really. |
| 12:34.25 | RasmusKL | Except if something breaks your stealth in the stealth case, you'll equip the right weapon. |
| 12:38.58 | RasmusKL | Meh, I can't get it to compare 2 item names with string.find.. |
| 12:39.08 | RasmusKL | well, 2 item links really. |
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| 13:07.11 | MoonWolf | RasmusKL, still there ? |
| 13:07.24 | MoonWolf | what happens if you get put out of stealth with a stun ? |
| 13:07.27 | MoonWolf | like cheapshot |
| 13:07.47 | RasmusKL | Yeh. |
| 13:07.56 | RasmusKL | Uh, I don't know :-) |
| 13:08.10 | RasmusKL | Probably fails then. |
| 13:08.12 | RasmusKL | Atm. |
| 13:08.34 | MoonWolf | yeah, my current switcher has that problem too.... yust a heads up. |
| 13:08.42 | MoonWolf | just* |
| 13:09.44 | RasmusKL | Atleast now my rogues opens with a 450ish ambush instead of a 220 ss :-) |
| 13:09.49 | MoonWolf | and could you make it so you can force the change with a keybind ? |
| 13:09.51 | RasmusKL | my rogue* |
| 13:10.09 | MoonWolf | because i currently use two weapon switchers.. one for stealth/unstealth one for on keybind. |
| 13:10.18 | RasmusKL | Really, this isn't an addon that I'm going to be spending a lot of time developing... |
| 13:10.27 | RasmusKL | It was more because I wanted to try out the concept :-P |
| 13:10.38 | MoonWolf | come on, a single keybind.. please please please. |
| 13:10.50 | MoonWolf | :P |
| 13:10.54 | MoonWolf | do whatver you want man. |
| 13:10.57 | RasmusKL | And the stun.. and then :-) |
| 13:11.02 | RasmusKL | No, I'll probably look into it. |
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| 14:28.52 | Codayus | Wow, MDX is the drink of the gods. |
| 14:29.02 | Codayus | Just wanted to comment. |
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| 14:30.25 | Codayus | Incidentally, I'm fiddling with some code at the moment that when called checks to see what the mainhand weapon is, then tries to BS if its a dagger, otherwise SS. |
| 14:30.51 | Codayus | Works fairly well when combined with a keybind that swaps weapons. |
| 14:31.50 | Codayus | The other way of doing that is to have one key for BS and SS, and swap weapons based on which one you hit. <shrug> Not sure which is the better approach. |
| 14:34.15 | Codayus | (It also checks for breakable mezzes and won't break them (which is working well), and eviscerates instead of BS/SS if combo points == 5 (which isn't proving as useful as hoped).) |
| 14:34.31 | Codayus | Hey, after 9am already. *sigh* |
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| 16:32.10 | cladhaire | Morning |
| 17:05.32 | downforce | evening |
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| 17:39.13 | MoonWolf | someone magically make zeeg less anoying. please. |
| 17:40.36 | Tain | You ask the impossible. |
| 17:48.50 | cladhaire | ~emulate zeeg |
| 17:48.51 | purl | I have a big fat c# book, and I'm not affraid to use it. |
| 17:49.50 | MoonWolf | actually, i apreciate that qoute to much for zeeg to have it. |
| 17:50.10 | MoonWolf | ~literal zeeg |
| 17:50.11 | purl | "zeeg" is "one of the admins at wowguru" |
| 17:50.22 | MoonWolf | ~literal emulate zeeg |
| 17:50.23 | purl | "emulate zeeg" is "<reply> I have a big fat c# book, and I'm not affraid to use it." |
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| 17:54.42 | Kaelten | ~emulate kaelten |
| 17:54.53 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:03.12 | MoonWolf | ~emulate zeeg is <reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 18:03.14 | purl | ...but emulate zeeg is already something else... |
| 18:03.25 | MoonWolf | ~no emulate zeeg is <reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 18:03.26 | purl | okay, MoonWolf |
| 18:03.45 | MoonWolf | now dont go testing that in #wowi-lounge straight away |
| 18:07.39 | Tain | haha |
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| 18:40.09 | Ano1 | ~emulate zeeg |
| 18:40.10 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 18:40.28 | Ano1 | purl, no emulate zeeg is the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 18:40.29 | purl | Ano1: okay |
| 18:40.51 | Tem | ~literal info emulate zeeg |
| 18:41.01 | Tem | ~factinfo emulate zeeg |
| 18:41.01 | purl | emulate zeeg -- last modified 32s ago by Ano1!n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net. |
| 18:41.01 | MoonWolf | ~literal emulate zeeg |
| 18:41.03 | purl | "emulate zeeg" is "the only way you could make me like any of you is with $" |
| 18:41.18 | MoonWolf | why did you take out the reply part ? |
| 18:41.19 | Tem | damnit |
| 18:41.26 | Tem | my hostname is still there |
| 18:41.48 | MoonWolf | silly |
| 18:41.56 | MoonWolf | wait a sec if you want me to get something anon |
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| 18:44.39 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 18:44.42 | MoonWolf | well then who care |
| 18:44.44 | MoonWolf | well then who cares |
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| 19:31.04 | Tekkub | purl, no emulate zeeg is the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:31.05 | purl | Tekkub: i already had it that way |
| 19:31.31 | Tekkub | bah! |
| 19:31.52 | Tekkub | ~emulate zeeg |
| 19:31.54 | purl | [emulate zeeg] the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:32.21 | Tekkub | purl, no emulate zeeg is the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:32.22 | purl | i already had it that way, Tekkub |
| 19:32.22 | MoonWolf | ~no emulate zeeg is <reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:32.24 | purl | MoonWolf: okay |
| 19:32.52 | MoonWolf | ~emulate zeeg |
| 19:32.53 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:32.53 | Tekkub | ah, trying to get your hostname outta there for ya |
| 19:32.54 | Tekkub | cause I don't care, he doesn't know me anyway ^^ |
| 19:33.23 | MoonWolf | then say the line i said. |
| 19:33.23 | Tekkub | ~no emulate zeeg is <reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:33.24 | purl | Tekkub: i already had it that way |
| 19:33.47 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:33.47 | Tekkub | perl no likey me |
| 19:33.47 | kergoth`zzz | Tekkub: do a ~forget emulate zeeg |
| 19:33.47 | MoonWolf | ~no emulate zeeg is <reply> bla bla |
| 19:33.49 | purl | okay, MoonWolf |
| 19:33.49 | kergoth`zzz | Tekkub: then set it again |
| 19:33.49 | kergoth`zzz | or that |
| 19:34.03 | MoonWolf | now you go |
| 19:34.03 | Tekkub | ~no emulate zeeg is <reply> the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 19:34.04 | purl | okay, Tekkub |
| 19:34.13 | Tekkub | wewt! I win! |
| 19:34.21 | Tekkub | there, use that well |
| 19:34.25 | Tain | That's a stupid statement. I wouldn't like him even with money. |
| 19:34.41 | MoonWolf | no but he would like you if you gave him money |
| 19:34.42 | Tekkub | you got it backwards tain |
| 19:34.45 | MoonWolf | actual qoute. |
| 19:35.13 | Tain | Yes well! |
| 19:35.56 | RasmusKL | Meh? |
| 19:36.00 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 19:36.06 | Tekkub | working on spellcast events |
| 19:36.11 | RasmusKL | Oh :-P |
| 19:36.14 | RasmusKL | They're annoying. |
| 19:36.18 | Tekkub | yup |
| 19:36.23 | RasmusKL | with targets especially. |
| 19:36.34 | Tekkub | I think I'm gonna have to make a table of every spell's target type aren't I? |
| 19:36.42 | RasmusKL | You might :-) |
| 19:36.54 | RasmusKL | It sucks :-/ |
| 19:37.12 | Tekkub | or should I just pass the target I came up with and let the event handler worry about if it's the right target? |
| 19:38.13 | Tekkub | anywho, looked at AceTimer and I got a good idea of how you're doing it, nicley done, I am basically trying to duplicate your code as best I can |
| 19:38.53 | Tekkub | I might make the cooldown events first cause they're gonna be easier |
| 19:38.53 | Tekkub | but for now, attemp to sleep again |
| 19:38.53 | Tekkub | byebye! |
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| 20:20.00 | Tekkub | or not |
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| 20:58.47 | Parak | is there a visor manual of any sort available? :o |
| 20:59.03 | Parak | (aside from the ingame stuff) |
| 20:59.47 | Plorkyeran | there's documentation linked in Rowne's thread |
| 21:02.27 | Tain | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/ |
| 21:02.30 | Tain | In the Visor link. |
| 21:04.26 | Parak | whee, much thanks |
| 21:06.15 | Parak | hrm, I'm looking for how to nudge the current set frame one pixel in one (or two) axis from it's current location (wherever that may be) |
| 21:10.16 | Tain | Do /vz set n=1 |
| 21:10.23 | Tain | Which will set the nudge amount to 1 |
| 21:10.25 | Parak | visorgui can do it (though on only one axis at a time), but setting nudge to 1 doesn't do anything :p |
| 21:11.05 | Tain | You have to bind keys to the movement positions to do it easily. |
| 21:11.23 | Tain | S oyou select the frame, hit the key, and it moves right the nudge amount. |
| 21:12.23 | Parak | aha! |
| 21:12.36 | Parak | that works quite nicely :D |
| 21:13.06 | Tain | Yeah that's what I do, you have to bind them or else you have to do, /script VisorNudge:Left() |
| 21:13.11 | Tain | For each movement |
| 21:14.18 | Parak | bound it to my numpad |
| 21:14.30 | Tain | Yep that's what I did. It's easy. :) |
| 21:15.06 | Tain | Actually I have numkeys set 1=Get Current Frame, 2=Move to Cursor, then 4,5,6,8 ldru |
| 21:16.15 | Parak | That works even better |
| 21:16.43 | Tain | It works for me, I actually love it. So easy to grab a frame and move it. |
| 21:19.06 | Parak | I got one of them square minimap mods, so I thought that now is a good time as any to learn how to use Visor |
| 21:23.28 | Tain | Yeah, with the Minimap make sure to target MinimapCluster as the frame name. |
| 21:23.39 | Tekkub | I need to get square minimap |
| 21:23.48 | Tekkub | I'm sick of Eliptical minimap |
| 21:23.52 | Tekkub | it's not even a mod! |
| 21:24.07 | Tain | It is neat. I like the corner one better than just square, it's more aestethically pleasing. |
| 21:24.14 | Tekkub | *wawve fist in angry* Damn you aspect ratio stretching! |
| 21:24.16 | Tain | But, I use mine at the bottom center so that's why I made the one I did. |
| 21:24.39 | Tekkub | corner wouldn't fit my layout tho ^^ |
| 21:25.34 | Tain | It's harder than I thought it would be to create a custom frame. heh |
| 21:25.36 | Tekkub | working on adding spell colldown events to SpecialEvents |
| 21:25.43 | Tekkub | and Actionbutton cooldowns too |
| 21:26.05 | Tekkub | since the spellcasting with target is gonna be...fun... |
| 21:26.17 | Tekkub | I'll do the easy cooldowns first |
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| 21:30.24 | Tain | It's like water torture. |
| 21:30.28 | Tain | He just never shuts up. |
| 21:30.35 | Tain | And he doesn't say anything. |
| 21:30.39 | Tain | It's just nonsense. |
| 21:32.45 | Cair | he has his own guild(s)? Funny how *noone* knows about them |
| 21:33.05 | Tain | Yeah and his own irc, and his own blah blah blah |
| 21:33.12 | Tekkub | zeegeyweenie? |
| 21:33.30 | Cair | yeah Tekkub |
| 21:33.40 | Tekkub | wow how did I guess? |
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| 21:33.47 | Tekkub | I must be psycho |
| 21:40.20 | Tekkub | wow, with square minimap I don't care about the stretched apsect anymore :) |
| 21:40.34 | Tekkub | the minimap was the one thing that I couldn't fix |
| 21:40.44 | Tekkub | and I've gotten used to fat tauren/dorfs |
| 21:43.22 | Cair | well damn, points for effort for trying to get him to leave voluntarily |
| 21:44.06 | Tekkub | nice effort |
| 21:44.22 | Tekkub | I'm waiting for the "STFU noob" from him... |
| 21:44.42 | Tekkub | maybe it'll at least shut him up for a while |
| 21:44.54 | Cair | oh, he tries that one on me and he's gone |
| 21:46.56 | Tekkub | think he talks as much as he does here on his other "50" channels? |
| 21:48.10 | Cair | probably :p |
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| 21:57.18 | clad|afk | wow.. |
| 21:57.20 | clad|afk | i'm so leaving |
| 21:57.21 | clad|afk | bye =) |
| 21:57.29 | Cair | *hug* |
| 21:58.10 | Tem | can you boot him now cair? |
| 21:58.11 | Tem | please? |
| 22:00.02 | Cair | YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAY! |
| 22:00.09 | Tain | If only it would be permanent. |
| 22:00.17 | Tain | I will dram! |
| 22:00.18 | Tain | dream |
| 22:00.19 | Tem | haha nice cover cair |
| 22:00.19 | Cair | celebrate over here ;) |
| 22:00.37 | Tain | Yay |
| 22:00.39 | Tain | :) |
| 22:00.47 | Tain | Don't want them to hear from over here |
| 22:01.48 | Cair | ;) |
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| 22:03.55 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.18 | Tekkub | <dorf>Fantastic!</dorf> |
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| 22:58.50 | kergoth | he's gone? WOOT! |
| 22:59.49 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 23:04.35 | Cair | ;) |
| 23:05.20 | Tem | kergoth: you missed how we got him to leave |
| 23:05.54 | Tem | it was classic |
| 23:06.23 | MoonWolf | I am feeling i am missing a whole story here... |
| 23:07.32 | Tem | look at the wowi-lounge logs from (15:52:56) |
| 23:08.22 | MoonWolf | eeeuh, convert that to some form of a gmt time |
| 23:08.27 | Tem | oh |
| 23:08.29 | Tem | lol oops |
| 23:08.36 | Tem | that's gmt -6 |
| 23:08.40 | MoonWolf | thank you |
| 23:08.46 | Cair | in short, he decided to dis' WDN, and call it "constructive criticism" ... it was suggested to him that he post the actual "constructive" part of it on the WDN thread at WoWI |
| 23:08.47 | Tem | sorry, I forget |
| 23:09.03 | Cair | this was also after he decided to mock the UI Modding community guilds, etc |
| 23:09.13 | Tem | Cair: oh? |
| 23:09.17 | MoonWolf | ah, so basically he was being an ass. |
| 23:09.20 | Tem | I missed that |
| 23:09.25 | Cair | aka, himself, yeah |
| 23:09.25 | MoonWolf | KickBan! |
| 23:09.37 | Tem | ~logs |
| 23:09.38 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 23:10.22 | Tem | bah they aren't updated until midnight |
| 23:10.51 | MoonWolf | nope |
| 23:10.58 | MoonWolf | found it in my own logs though |
| 23:11.29 | Tem | I wasn't in the channel at the time, my gaim crashed sometime overnight |
| 23:11.32 | Cair | shouryuu: hummmm can anyone send me an invite on the alliance side guild? |
| 23:11.33 | Cair | Cair: shouryuu: 2 sec, I'll switch over |
| 23:11.33 | Cair | zeeg: guild? |
| 23:11.33 | Cair | shouryuu: My name is readthefaq |
| 23:11.33 | Cair | Cair: zeeg: if you're gonna cater to the UI community, you really need to keep up with what the UI community is doing :p |
| 23:11.35 | Cair | Cair: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2563 |
| 23:11.36 | Cair | zeeg: Keeping up w/ the community doesn't involve me joining some guild from another website.. :| |
| 23:11.38 | Cair | zeeg: I host TFI.. |
| 23:12.14 | MoonWolf | cair did you see the new Zeeg emulation ? |
| 23:12.17 | MoonWolf | ~emulate zeeg |
| 23:12.19 | purl | the only way you could make me like any of you is with $ |
| 23:12.25 | kergoth | hah, after he spams the channel of "another website" with his all the time, he cant be bothered to involve himself in yours? |
| 23:12.25 | Cair | ... |
| 23:12.25 | MoonWolf | actual qoute |
| 23:12.26 | kergoth | what a joke |
| 23:12.47 | kergoth | ~kill zeeg |
| 23:12.49 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse quark gun at zeeg |
| 23:12.54 | Tem | Cair: "TFI"? |
| 23:13.03 | MoonWolf | Look cair, its your choice i have nothing to do with him, but why do you tolerate zeeg in Wowi-lounge ? |
| 23:13.19 | Tain | Too Fucking Ignorant? |
| 23:13.21 | Cair | Cair: "zeeg: Keeping up w/ the community doesn't involve me joining some guild from another website.. :|" and the difference between that and being on "some irc channel from another website" is ... what, precisely? |
| 23:13.21 | Cair | zeeg: im already on like 50 channels |
| 23:13.22 | Cair | zeeg: 1 more dont hurt |
| 23:13.22 | Cair | zeeg: + i dont play wow |
| 23:13.27 | Cair | kergoth: |
| 23:13.55 | kergoth | .. |
| 23:14.10 | Cair | anyway, he's currently gone, we'll see whether he comes back or not |
| 23:14.17 | MoonWolf | I really hope not. |
| 23:14.21 | Tem | Cair: "TFI"? |
| 23:14.30 | Cair | The Frozen Inn, iirc |
| 23:14.38 | Tem | what's that? |
| 23:14.45 | Tain | He will come back, he needs the attention. Even if it's negative. |
| 23:15.15 | Cair | one of the guilds he runs, apparently |
| 23:15.15 | Tain | Well, that's what I think. But I hope not! |
| 23:16.09 | MoonWolf | i have some rather spread out and long logs of how he basically went on and was an ass in #wowradio over in wowirc.net and then demanded that the op's ban the people that he was argueing with or he would give no pr or even bad pr about wowradio..... |
| 23:17.01 | MoonWolf | oh and i alway's like how he is the first one to curse and then complain about how rude people are to him. |
| 23:17.34 | Cair | on the one hand, I'm so glad he's gone ... on the other, I should go make all nice on the multi-site private forum *sigh* |
| 23:17.47 | Tem | the what? |
| 23:18.05 | MoonWolf | shh, we never heard of any multi site forum... it does not leave wowace |
| 23:18.25 | Cair | we've got a private forum set up at WoWI where the staff from the mod hosting sites can talk |
| 23:18.33 | Tem | aha |
| 23:18.38 | Cair | ui.wow, wowguru, curse |
| 23:18.49 | Tem | Oh yeah Cair, don't make nice |
| 23:18.59 | Tem | oh and pull WoWI out of his patcher thing |
| 23:19.16 | Tem | his site doesn't have any mods anyway |
| 23:19.23 | Tain | Who runs wowguru? |
| 23:19.28 | Tain | Oh I guess I could look for myself. |
| 23:19.30 | Parak | I wonder what happens if you try to move worldframe with visor |
| 23:19.51 | Tain | err |
| 23:19.52 | Tain | No no no |
| 23:19.54 | MoonWolf | parak, it fucks up or crashes wow |
| 23:19.54 | Tain | The other one |
| 23:19.59 | Tain | ui.worldofwar |
| 23:20.14 | Tain | Yeesh. My brain is frozen from all the snow shovelling. |
| 23:20.14 | Tem | your site would be providing 90% of the stuff to that thing |
| 23:20.35 | Cair | see, the thing is ... we support the community ... even if that means we have to get along with assholes |
| 23:21.22 | MoonWolf | is zeeg even a part of the community |
| 23:21.47 | Tem | I dun think so |
| 23:21.55 | MoonWolf | I mean. he seems to go out of his way to tell us that he does not play wow and is in for the money.... |
| 23:22.59 | Tekkub | zeeg isn't community, like he said he doesn't play |
| 23:23.17 | Tekkub | which means he doesn't write mods... |
| 23:23.44 | Cair | I don't write mods either |
| 23:23.51 | Cair | am I not community? |
| 23:24.15 | Tain | If you prick us, do we not bleed? |
| 23:24.26 | MoonWolf | Yes, but you try to build instead of leach stuff and make a general mess. |
| 23:24.49 | Tain | By the way this has become one of my favorite sites for streaming music. www.pandora.com |
| 23:25.07 | Tain | You enter an artist or song you like and it creates a stream for you of that and similar music. |
| 23:25.23 | Tekkub | I thought you said you did Cair |
| 23:25.43 | Tekkub | when you were telling me to save my mod description locally like you do... |
| 23:25.59 | Tem | Tain: that's awesome |
| 23:26.11 | Tekkub | Tain.... |
| 23:26.26 | Cair | Tekkub: I wrote back in EQ |
| 23:26.32 | Tekkub | can I have all your babies? I've needed a good stream that works exactly like that |
| 23:26.46 | Tain | Sure, but you'll have to find the mothers first. |
| 23:26.48 | Tekkub | oh, okey Cair... well you still count ^^ |
| 23:26.54 | Cair | ;) |
| 23:26.57 | Tem | Tekkub: wait, I thought you wanted mine? |
| 23:27.07 | Cair | 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... yup, I can still count ;) |
| 23:27.12 | Tekkub | I already ate yours, I'm hungry again |
| 23:27.22 | Cair | *grin* |
| 23:27.38 | Tain | One two three four five, six seven eight nine ten.. eleven tweeeeeeelve |
| 23:28.05 | Tekkub | I guess I just don't see zeeg as community cause I havn't seen him do anything for us.... |
| 23:28.09 | Tekkub | it's all for him |
| 23:28.31 | Tem | that's it |
| 23:28.40 | Cair | oh, Tem ... http://www.wowguru.com/tfi/ |
| 23:28.41 | Tem | that's where the definition of community comes in |
| 23:28.46 | Cair | found the link agan |
| 23:28.47 | Tekkub | there's no "I" in community |
| 23:28.56 | Tekkub | except the one near the end |
| 23:28.58 | Tain | Yes there is. Right between the 'n' and the 't' |
| 23:29.00 | Tem | when people do stuff for others in the community they are part of the community |
| 23:29.03 | Tain | But! |
| 23:29.05 | Tekkub | but it's not caps so it doesn't count |
| 23:29.10 | Tain | Thers is no 'zeeg' in 'community' |
| 23:29.31 | Tekkub | there's no "zeeg" in a lot of things |
| 23:30.24 | phyber | what did zeeg do to piss everybody off? |
| 23:30.25 | MoonWolf | tem, so people who only use addons are not part of the addon community ? |
| 23:30.35 | MoonWolf | phyber... LOOOOONG story |
| 23:30.54 | Tem | MoonWolf: people who only use addons and don't contribute count as "users" to me |
| 23:31.43 | MoonWolf | I love that music streaming thing btw, it kinda dumped on Rhapsody, but i entered cradle of filth and the good music started rolling in. |
| 23:32.07 | Tain | I'm loving it. |
| 23:32.24 | Tem | I don't like rhapsody because it feels like one big piece of spyware |
| 23:32.42 | MoonWolf | euuuh. rhapsody is a band. |
| 23:32.53 | Tain | haha |
| 23:33.03 | Tem | oh lol |
| 23:33.16 | Tem | I thought you were talking about that realplayer thing |
| 23:33.26 | Tem | I see commencials for it ALL the damn time |
| 23:33.51 | MoonWolf | yeah, that is a piece of slow stupid fucking spyware. |
| 23:33.53 | kergoth | i'm glad there's an alternative codec to play real player files now |
| 23:33.59 | kergoth | no longer need to use real's bloated piles of crap |
| 23:34.02 | MoonWolf | but it is an awesome band. |
| 23:34.38 | Tem | I like realplayer a long time ago |
| 23:34.40 | Tem | liked* |
| 23:34.47 | Tem | it was called Realjukebox at the time |
| 23:35.02 | Tem | It did everything I needed and I liked it's interface |
| 23:35.11 | Tem | but then they came out with "Real One player" |
| 23:35.15 | Tem | and I /hated/ that |
| 23:35.18 | Codayus | Music thing? Try Pandora. :-) |
| 23:35.18 | kergoth | the first time i had to dig deep into a bunch of hidden hard to find advanced options to disable all the spam and registration and info submission stuff, i stopped using it |
| 23:35.25 | Codayus | Really excellent. |
| 23:35.46 | Tem | Codayus: that's what we are talking about |
| 23:35.50 | Codayus | Yay! |
| 23:35.54 | Codayus | Sorry, I just sat down here. |
| 23:36.03 | Tem | I don't get how they can do it though |
| 23:36.08 | Tem | I don't even see any adds |
| 23:36.17 | Codayus | And I love Pandora so much I can't resist recommending it whenever the subject comes up. Or hell, doesn't come up. |
| 23:37.52 | Codayus | I subscribed before they introduced ads, so I wouldn't know about that... |
| 23:38.17 | Tem | what Adds? |
| 23:38.20 | Tem | I don't even see any |
| 23:38.30 | Tem | oh nevermind |
| 23:38.46 | Tem | I'm so used to having AdBlock I forget |
| 23:38.50 | MoonWolf | haha |
| 23:38.59 | Codayus | Freeloader. :-) |
| 23:39.48 | Tem | is it wrong to not want to see ads? |
| 23:40.16 | Tem | really ads don't bother me much unless they are animated |
| 23:40.29 | Tem | (or if they are like that horrible bar at the top of WoWI) |
| 23:41.16 | MoonWolf | i totally ignore the bar up there |
| 23:41.37 | MoonWolf | i actually only saw it when someone coplained about a bar, and i was like, bar ? What bar... oh that bar. |
| 23:41.39 | Tem | I wrote a greasemonkey script to make it go poof |
| 23:41.54 | Tem | actually let me rephrase that |
| 23:42.04 | Tem | I learned how to use greasemonkey |
| 23:42.09 | Tain | I don't like the ones that have sound. The rest I barely even see anymore. Just filtered out of my mind. |
| 23:42.24 | Tem | and I learned JavaScript so that I could write a script to make it go poof |
| 23:42.59 | Tem | (that's how much that bar annoyed me) |
| 23:43.29 | Codayus | I don't even have ad block installed. |
| 23:43.40 | Tain | I'm not even sure what bar you're talking about. heh |
| 23:44.13 | Codayus | Ads I *notice* vaguely annoy me, but I'm very good at ignoring them. |
| 23:44.41 | Codayus | Unless they have sound, or are the really annoying flash kind that move around the page in front of content... |
| 23:44.55 | Codayus | And I solve those problems by just not going anywhere that has them. |
| 23:45.11 | Tain | I never get that problem with them popping around anymore. At the worst they pop a new tab. |
| 23:45.37 | MoonWolf | new tabs are a bane and should be fixed. |
| 23:46.00 | MoonWolf | yay now its playing a song from my favourite album .... |
| 23:46.04 | MoonWolf | i love this. |
| 23:47.28 | Tekkub | okey pandora kicks so much ass |
| 23:47.57 | Tekkub | just when I was about to subscribe to napster for their half-assed custom raido stations too |
| 23:48.06 | Codayus | Pandora is, in my view, the best justification for the existence of the internet I have run across. |
| 23:48.14 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.44 | Tekkub | I'm always one for things that learn what you like ,that you can slowly customize over time and discover new things |
| 23:48.49 | MoonWolf | can you somehow combine multiple radios in one ? |
| 23:49.05 | Tekkub | TV and Radio are just the people with the most money throwing shit at you randomly |
| 23:49.27 | MoonWolf | oh wait, i figured it out |
| 23:49.53 | Tekkub | I've been considering using the sites like IMDB to make a sort of video-discover app kinda like pandora |
| 23:50.02 | Cair | ~for porn |
| 23:50.03 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 23:50.37 | Tekkub | like You say, I like "The Simpsons" and it brings back the "similar to" stuff |
| 23:50.45 | Tekkub | then you click something you like there |
| 23:51.02 | Tekkub | and as you bounce around you hopefully find new stuff to watch |
| 23:51.39 | MoonWolf | Amore e Morte! |
| 23:52.21 | MoonWolf | night night people |