| 00:02.17 | FryGuy | thanks.. i figured it out :p |
| 00:02.22 | FryGuy | was another problem I had anyways |
| 00:19.57 | Tem | ah |
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| 02:13.38 | Rowne | Hm. Who was it that fingered Ogres for the new playable race? |
| 02:13.46 | Rowne | I know it was someone in here or the WoWI lounge. |
| 02:14.25 | Codayus | aven't heard that rumor. |
| 02:15.04 | Codayus | Hmmm, doesn't make a great deal of sense to me on face value...isn' there even a horde-alligned ogre town in STV or Dustwallow or something? |
| 02:15.05 | Rowne | Ah, that's right, it was krka. |
| 02:15.09 | Rowne | Back to WoWI. |
| 02:19.06 | Tain | I heard the new playable race is going to be snake-men. |
| 02:21.01 | Rowne | ... |
| 02:21.10 | Rowne | If that's true then I might never play Horde again. *Cry.* |
| 02:21.35 | Tain | I actually made that up entirely. |
| 02:22.37 | Rowne | I am glad. |
| 02:22.49 | Rowne | Though at this point, I'd believe almost anything. |
| 02:22.51 | Codayus | I'm thinking furbolgs. |
| 02:22.54 | Rowne | Damn Caydiem and her mind-games. |
| 02:22.56 | Rowne | That's possible. |
| 02:23.03 | Rowne | They have links with the Night-Elves. Sort of. Ish. |
| 02:23.07 | Rowne | But ... |
| 02:23.12 | Rowne | Do they have a link to the Outland? |
| 02:24.20 | Codayus | Not really, AFAIK. They were mostly driven mad by something though...and eh, not sure they really need a connection. |
| 02:24.40 | Tain | Murlocs, definitely Murlocs. |
| 02:25.13 | Rowne | Ah, but Caydiem said. |
| 02:25.26 | Rowne | She said the one thing she -is- willing to tell us is that the race must have a connection to Outland. |
| 02:25.35 | Rowne | Then again, that might be more of her damned mindgames. :p |
| 02:25.44 | Codayus | I think the important criteria are: 1) Home on Kalimdor. 2) Room for a capital city plus newbie zone. 3) (Maybe) Furry/beast race. |
| 02:25.50 | Rowne | She's been teasing people left and right on the general forums about the new race. |
| 02:25.52 | Codayus | Oh? Hmm |
| 02:26.11 | Codayus | Well, that complicates matters. Pandas don't have any connection to outlook, do they? |
| 02:26.14 | Rowne | But she did sound adamant on the Outland count. |
| 02:26.15 | Tain | Outland, that's where Shao Kahn is from. |
| 02:26.23 | Rowne | Shao Kahn? |
| 02:26.30 | Codayus | Who? |
| 02:26.42 | Tain | And Shang Tsung |
| 02:26.45 | Rowne | Who? |
| 02:27.03 | Rowne | They're just everyday people? |
| 02:27.11 | Codayus | Sounds panda-ish |
| 02:27.11 | Tain | Mortal Kombat! |
| 02:27.20 | Codayus | .... |
| 02:28.02 | Rowne | ... |
| 02:28.06 | Tain | :D |
| 02:28.14 | Rowne | Guard, slap him, vewy woughly. |
| 02:28.35 | Codayus | Now, lets see, how to hide the body... |
| 02:28.56 | Rowne | Anyway, Cod, by the way, I agree on the Beast-race thing. |
| 02:28.58 | Rowne | It's logical. |
| 02:29.03 | Rowne | I mean, they gave the Horde a "beauty" race. |
| 02:29.07 | Rowne | They're probably balancing. |
| 02:31.14 | Codayus | Yeah...so Pandas, Furbolgs...um, MAYBE wolf-men?M But they aren't on kalimdor... |
| 02:31.55 | Rowne | Who said they had to be on Kalimdor? |
| 02:32.03 | Rowne | They could be near Silverpine. |
| 02:32.08 | Rowne | I mean, there is a town of were-Worgen. |
| 02:32.13 | Rowne | That literally does nothing right now. |
| 02:32.20 | Rowne | And the undead -do- say they come from another dimension/plane/World. |
| 02:32.24 | Rowne | Is that place Outland? |
| 02:32.38 | Rowne | It'd be a blast if the new race were wereWorg. |
| 02:32.44 | Rowne | That'd go with the new ability that Blood Elves have. |
| 02:32.52 | Tain | They could be on the moon. |
| 02:32.52 | Rowne | Were-worg, human by day, big beat thing at night. |
| 02:32.56 | Codayus | Well, nobody said that, exactly. But there's currently two horde raced and 1 alliance race on kalimdor. And 2 alliance and 1 horde race on the eastern continent... |
| 02:32.56 | cladhaire | Rowne: I am praying for the Nightcry Worgen |
| 02:33.01 | cladhaire | from Gilneas |
| 02:33.13 | cladhaire | But I don't have a large amount of faith |
| 02:33.17 | Codayus | Er.... s/two/three s/2/three |
| 02:33.27 | Rowne | I would be very, very happy if they gave us were-Worgen. |
| 02:33.32 | Rowne | Or the Nightcry Worgen. |
| 02:33.34 | Rowne | Or any Worgen. :p |
| 02:33.44 | Codayus | So if they add a horde race to the eastern continent, I THINK they'll add a alliance race to kalimdor. |
| 02:33.49 | Rowne | Again though, this presents me with a problem ... |
| 02:33.49 | cladhaire | You've read the fake "leak" yes? |
| 02:33.59 | Rowne | "Yay! Worgen! ... can I betray the Alliance and join the Horde now, please?" |
| 02:34.14 | Codayus | I'd like worgen though... |
| 02:34.20 | Rowne | Who wouldn't? |
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| 02:47.32 | Rowne | Hmm ... |
| 02:47.37 | Rowne | ~literal Earthworm Jim |
| 02:47.38 | purl | "earthworm jim" is "<reply> Come on little buddy, let's get that crazed surgeon to switch our heads back.||<reply> Never in my years....Have I seen SUCH GLORY!!! Even my T-Shirt pays homage!||<reply> Wow... A Dream Sequence... GROOVY!! Bring on the dancin' girls!||<reply> Not now Peter, I'm laughing at fate.||<reply>Groovy!||<reply>"Um.", "Um.", "Um.", "Girls?"" |
| 02:47.46 | Rowne | Hm. |
| 02:47.51 | Rowne | ~literal Stewie |
| 02:48.07 | Rowne | ~literal Tick |
| 02:48.09 | purl | "tick" is "<reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever!||<reply>Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads.||<reply>Bad man hit dog with *street*!||<reply>Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big!||<reply>Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, ... |
| 02:48.24 | Rowne | Hm, I'll skip the emote, then. |
| 02:48.39 | Rowne | purl: Argual is <reply>Wewease youw wage! |
| 02:48.41 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:48.49 | Rowne | Baaah. |
| 02:48.57 | Rowne | purl: argual is |
| 02:49.03 | Rowne | purl: argual is <reply> |
| 02:49.04 | purl | ...but argual is already something else... |
| 02:49.11 | Rowne | purl: no, argual is <reply> |
| 02:49.12 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:49.26 | Rowne | purl: Arugal is <reply>Wewease youw WAGE! |
| 02:49.27 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:49.30 | Rowne | There we go. |
| 02:49.33 | Rowne | ~Arugal |
| 02:49.34 | purl | Wewease youw WAGE! |
| 02:49.41 | Rowne | Much better. |
| 02:49.47 | Tem | ~inigo |
| 02:49.48 | purl | Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. |
| 02:49.57 | Tem | ~inigo |
| 02:49.59 | purl | Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. |
| 02:50.04 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 02:50.15 | Rowne | ~inigo |
| 02:50.18 | purl | He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using. |
| 02:50.39 | Tem | Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die. |
| 02:51.05 | Tain | Owwwwwwwww I just bit the inside of my mouth for the third time in three days. :( |
| 02:51.17 | Rowne | How in the hell? |
| 02:51.23 | Tain | It hurts. :( |
| 02:51.31 | Rowne | I'll bet. |
| 02:51.33 | Tain | It hurt more last night when I used mouthwash. |
| 02:51.40 | Rowne | ... |
| 02:51.58 | Rowne | "Maybe this'll help. *Gargle.* OHMIGODTHEPAIN!!! AAIEEEEE!" |
| 02:52.16 | Codayus | No comment. |
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| 03:11.39 | Stylpe | ~seen tekkub |
| 03:11.42 | purl | Stylpe: i haven't seen 'tekkub' |
| 03:11.50 | Stylpe | He should come here |
| 03:12.06 | Stylpe | or she? =P |
| 03:12.12 | Rowne | Ohnoes, another person to get mocked by. |
| 03:12.30 | Stylpe | *points* Rowne's stupid! Ahahahaha! |
| 03:12.31 | Rowne | But yeah, tekkub should stop by. |
| 03:12.36 | Rowne | ... Stylpe, behave. |
| 03:12.52 | Rowne | I also wonder over whether it's Tek-kub or Bukket. |
| 03:13.06 | Rowne | I should ask about that, someday. |
| 03:13.32 | Stylpe | It's "boo-kayt". |
| 03:14.00 | Rowne | Naw, I mean, whether it's bucket reversed or meant as something else ... but I digress. |
| 03:14.01 | Stylpe | (if you've seen that show =P) |
| 03:14.11 | Rowne | Which I obviously haven't. *Coughs.* Sorry. |
| 03:14.23 | Stylpe | It's british and everything >_> |
| 03:14.52 | Rowne | Yes but my memory is awful. |
| 03:14.58 | Rowne | I might've seen it and promptly forgotten. |
| 03:15.42 | Stylpe | It's about this married oldish couple called the 'Buckets', and the woman (Hyacinth I think) insists on pronouncing it like the 'bouquéts' |
| 03:15.59 | Rowne | Sounds vaguely familiar. |
| 03:16.10 | Stylpe | Think it was called 'Keeping up appearances' |
| 03:16.22 | Rowne | That sounds more familiar. |
| 03:18.29 | Stylpe | And their ummmm... uh some family members =P live in this house with an old car-wreck outside, and everytime Hyacinth walks past it, the dog pops out of the window and starts barking, sending Hyacinth falling into the bush =P |
| 03:18.52 | Rowne | I have very, very vague memories of this. |
| 03:19.17 | Stylpe | It wasn't that funny =P I remember my mom loved it though |
| 03:19.56 | Stylpe | Hyacinth always answered the phone with the line "The bouqueeeeet residence!" |
| 03:20.12 | Stylpe | plump woman |
| 03:20.44 | Rowne | Okay, I don't think I'm going to be able to remember anything more than what I have, unless I track it down and watch it again. |
| 03:20.49 | Stylpe | hehe |
| 03:20.57 | Stylpe | I wouldn't bother |
| 03:21.45 | Rowne | Though speaking of UK things ... |
| 03:21.56 | Rowne | I've recently watched the Narnia series and I picked up series VII of Red Dwarf. |
| 03:22.04 | Rowne | I adore the send-off Rimmer got as the new Ace Rimmer. |
| 03:23.32 | Stylpe | Never really watched Red Dwarf properly. Just the odd episode if it happened to be on |
| 03:23.55 | Tain | Ace Rimmer? |
| 03:25.07 | Stylpe | Gah, wasn't tekkub going to release a new ver of Warmup? =( |
| 03:25.11 | Rowne | "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" |
| 03:25.21 | Rowne | He probably forgot, he's as eccentric as I am. |
| 03:25.39 | Rowne | With the replies being respective, of course. |
| 03:25.41 | Stylpe | Rowne: That is not possible |
| 03:25.53 | Rowne | Ace Rimmer was an alternate Universe version of Arnold. J. Rimmer. |
| 03:26.05 | Rowne | Except really, there was much, much more to it than that. |
| 03:26.14 | Rowne | And you find out what in the Rimmer send-off, where he leaves the show for good. |
| 03:26.19 | Rowne | And a damned fine send-off it was, too. |
| 03:33.02 | [Matryx] | *nod* |
| 03:33.11 | [Matryx] | even if that tune was damned annoying a few episodes later |
| 03:33.58 | Rowne | Also, -yay- for Sam & Max being picked up again! |
| 03:34.06 | [Matryx] | they're doing a sequel? |
| 03:34.08 | [Matryx] | cool :) |
| 03:34.16 | Rowne | Not LucasArts, actually. |
| 03:34.23 | weab | my mass guild kick script worked well. rofl |
| 03:34.26 | [Matryx] | oh - who's doing it? |
| 03:34.27 | Rowne | A bunch of people who left LucasArts because of the cancellation and got the rights from Purcell. |
| 03:34.31 | weab | but it crashed me halfway through |
| 03:34.32 | Rowne | www.telltalegames.com |
| 03:34.38 | weab | so i had to gremove in sets of 350 |
| 03:34.40 | [Matryx] | good enough for me :) |
| 03:34.59 | Rowne | Yeah, Steve Purcell's going to be working closely with them on the project too. |
| 03:35.03 | Rowne | Which is -awesome-. |
| 03:35.40 | [Matryx] | I'll tell you what Rowne - now a few people on my side have my adlibber installed and setup, Warsong Gulch is *far* more entertaining |
| 03:36.00 | [Matryx] | the warrior hooked his "Shoot" function to say "I was told to point.... and *whoosh*" |
| 03:36.14 | Rowne | Likewise. |
| 03:36.26 | Rowne | I'm particularly fond of the healing spring totem adlib I have. |
| 03:36.26 | [Matryx] | that almost made me laugh so hard I almost died ;) |
| 03:36.27 | [Matryx] | almost |
| 03:36.35 | Rowne | "Feeed me, FEEEEEED me!!" |
| 03:36.38 | [Matryx] | hahaha |
| 03:36.54 | Rowne | Yup, I couldn't resist. |
| 03:37.05 | Rowne | Of course, the Searing totem gets the obligatory; "Flame on!" |
| 03:37.13 | [Matryx] | we have a warlock priest who chimes in with things like "Want your soul!" and "Embrace the darkness!" |
| 03:37.18 | [Matryx] | er |
| 03:37.24 | [Matryx] | + / in the middle |
| 03:37.47 | Rowne | I'm also tempted to make a Warlock. |
| 03:37.51 | Rowne | Just to bind things to summons. |
| 03:37.54 | [Matryx] | ooo |
| 03:37.56 | [Matryx] | before I forget |
| 03:38.02 | [Matryx] | if you don't like your warlock pet name |
| 03:38.08 | [Matryx] | you can call /script PetAbandon() |
| 03:38.11 | [Matryx] | or AbandonPet() |
| 03:38.13 | [Matryx] | one or the other |
| 03:38.15 | Rowne | Oh? |
| 03:38.19 | [Matryx] | and when you resummon you get a new pet with a new name |
| 03:38.25 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 03:38.27 | [Matryx] | because normally warlocks can't name their pets |
| 03:38.29 | Rowne | Also ... |
| 03:38.31 | Rowne | "I have a bunny. His name is Ollie. KEELL ZEM OLLIE!!" |
| 03:38.36 | [Matryx] | oh - but it gets rid of all the skills.... :/ |
| 03:38.41 | [Matryx] | which I found out the hard way ;) |
| 03:38.45 | Rowne | Or even a Squirrel. |
| 03:38.48 | Rowne | Yeah, a Squirrel! |
| 03:38.52 | Rowne | That'd go awesomely with the skins. |
| 03:38.56 | [Matryx] | oh well, only 20s on the grimoire really :) |
| 03:38.59 | Rowne | You've seen the Voidwalker Sqrl skin, right? |
| 03:39.06 | [Matryx] | did you see my post on model fudgery? |
| 03:39.13 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 03:39.16 | Rowne | But it's doable anyway. |
| 03:39.19 | Rowne | Already been done. |
| 03:39.20 | Rowne | Lots. |
| 03:39.25 | Rowne | Nononono. |
| 03:39.33 | [Matryx] | just because it's been done doesn't mean it won't be checksummed or something |
| 03:39.35 | Rowne | This is dropping files in the Data folder. :P |
| 03:39.36 | Rowne | No. |
| 03:39.38 | Rowne | Silly. |
| 03:39.40 | Rowne | This is different. |
| 03:39.45 | Rowne | And it can do the same thing. |
| 03:39.49 | Rowne | You can just drop files in the Data folder. |
| 03:39.56 | Rowne | And they'll overwrite the Warcraft files. |
| 03:40.10 | [Matryx] | yes, but the game can still checksum the files it loads. |
| 03:40.14 | [Matryx] | just because they don't *yet* |
| 03:40.14 | Rowne | That's considered 'intentional functionality' by Blizzard. |
| 03:40.23 | Rowne | Nope, Blizzard says that's okay. |
| 03:40.33 | [Matryx] | I reckon maybe not in 1.9, but beyond that they're going to have to do that |
| 03:40.49 | [Matryx] | otherwise I'll be forced to release giant stick figure models to prove a point ;) |
| 03:40.51 | Rowne | not if they've already said that data file skins/models are fine. |
| 03:40.58 | Rowne | Do so. |
| 03:41.02 | Rowne | They still hold their view on this, strongly. |
| 03:41.05 | [Matryx] | they said that for lots of ui things then removed the functionality |
| 03:41.09 | [Matryx] | *shrug* |
| 03:41.14 | Rowne | Anyway ... |
| 03:41.19 | [Matryx] | they change their mind more often then a bipolar :/ |
| 03:41.49 | Rowne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4321 |
| 03:41.59 | [Matryx] | anyway, I must go to sleep. 3:40am erk! |
| 03:42.00 | Rowne | Check out the screenshot, at least. |
| 03:42.04 | [Matryx] | *nod* will do |
| 03:42.10 | Rowne | I'm tempted to do that with a Warlock and an adlib. |
| 03:42.11 | Rowne | Also ... |
| 03:42.17 | Rowne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4319 |
| 03:42.26 | [Matryx] | yes - I saw that screenshot from somewhere else :) |
| 03:42.27 | Rowne | This makes me really, really, really, really, REALLY want to roll a Warlock. :P |
| 03:42.43 | [Matryx] | that would be quite cool |
| 03:43.00 | [Matryx] | but I quite like my Strider Clutchmother :) |
| 03:43.19 | [Matryx] | there's something unique about a bright turquoise ninja-chicken |
| 03:43.30 | [Matryx] | sounds like like bruce-lee, but in chicken form too |
| 03:44.51 | Rowne | ... |
| 03:44.56 | Rowne | Urgh. |
| 03:44.58 | Rowne | Something just occurred to me. |
| 03:45.00 | Rowne | Something -horrible-. |
| 03:45.05 | [Matryx] | ... ? |
| 03:45.15 | Rowne | 1) The advanced forms of two mages in Warcraft are Tiger-forms who can equip stuff. |
| 03:45.27 | Rowne | 2) The new code shown by that 3D-thingystuff page notes that PlayerModel can be changed. |
| 03:45.37 | Rowne | I am SO tempted to make an AddOn to change the player's model into a Tigerdude. |
| 03:45.38 | [Matryx] | mmm? |
| 03:45.53 | [Matryx] | hmm, well it's clientside only isn't it |
| 03:45.56 | [Matryx] | why not make him a rabbit :) |
| 03:45.58 | Rowne | True but ... |
| 03:46.02 | Rowne | Why would I care? |
| 03:46.06 | Rowne | I'd be a Tiger dude! |
| 03:46.09 | [Matryx] | lol |
| 03:46.11 | Rowne | I wouldn't care what anyone else saw. :p |
| 03:46.19 | [Matryx] | and everyone around you would think you were mad |
| 03:46.25 | [Matryx] | "Fear me! fear my TIGER POWER!" |
| 03:46.26 | Rowne | I'd be undercover as a Tauren, their feeble minds unable to see through my amazing disguise! |
| 03:46.27 | Rowne | Or something. |
| 03:46.28 | [Matryx] | *blink* |
| 03:46.32 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
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| 03:46.43 | Rowne | Sooo tempted ... |
| 03:46.51 | Rowne | Must find out the names of the Tiger models. e.e |
| 03:46.52 | [Matryx] | well |
| 03:46.54 | [Matryx] | if you do |
| 03:46.55 | Rowne | Dammit, now I need an MPQ viewer. |
| 03:47.00 | [Matryx] | provide a dropdown of model names |
| 03:47.13 | [Matryx] | TigerDude, NightElf, Worgen, etc |
| 03:47.39 | Rowne | Well ... |
| 03:47.46 | Rowne | The thing with TigerDude is that it's an equippable model. |
| 03:47.51 | Rowne | You'd still have all your weapons/armour showing. |
| 03:48.00 | [Matryx] | ah |
| 03:48.01 | Rowne | Worgens aren't like that. |
| 03:48.04 | Rowne | Yeah. |
| 03:48.12 | Rowne | That's why it occurred to me to do it for the Tiger. |
| 03:48.16 | Rowne | And now I want to |
| 03:48.18 | Rowne | So very badly. |
| 03:48.24 | [Matryx] | ooo |
| 03:48.44 | [Matryx] | I always thought that serpent form from Wailing Caverns was *way* cooler than druid's bear form |
| 03:49.25 | Rowne | ... |
| 03:49.29 | Rowne | Saaaaay ... |
| 03:49.43 | Rowne | We could do like, an event-based model-swapper! |
| 03:49.44 | [Matryx] | well surely just hooking the morph event to swap the model? |
| 03:49.47 | [Matryx] | bingo! |
| 03:49.50 | Rowne | Throw in a buff-scanner for auras. |
| 03:50.04 | Rowne | Much like BoogieBox[Auras]. |
| 03:50.08 | [Matryx] | giant-growth potion reaches new heights |
| 03:50.08 | Rowne | Using the new Buff-Scan Util. |
| 03:50.14 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 03:50.24 | Rowne | So the entry would be something like ... |
| 03:50.35 | Rowne | . /modify e=EVENT_NAME a=Aura m=ModelName |
| 03:50.48 | Rowne | And Modify is -so- the right name. ;p |
| 03:50.50 | Tem | Rowne: you can't change something's model once the game is running |
| 03:51.00 | Rowne | Are you sure? |
| 03:51.04 | Tem | positive |
| 03:51.07 | [Matryx] | awww :( |
| 03:51.09 | Rowne | The 3D code page suggests that. |
| 03:51.12 | Rowne | It suggests it a lot. |
| 03:51.14 | Rowne | With vigour. |
| 03:51.23 | [Matryx] | one might even say with fervour |
| 03:51.40 | Rowne | I think it's just a matter of somehow 'doing it right'. |
| 03:51.46 | Rowne | Perhaps they lockout the function after a certain point. |
| 03:51.53 | Rowne | Maybe hooking the function as soon as the AddOn is initialized? |
| 03:52.11 | Rowne | And then slapping the original function back on PlayerModel? |
| 03:52.29 | Rowne | That is, if they lock it out sometime after login. |
| 03:52.40 | Rowne | It depends on when they lock it out, though. |
| 03:52.42 | Tem | Rowne: you can't change the 3d world at all |
| 03:53.09 | Tem | the only way people are changing models is by putting a different model in the data folder |
| 03:53.13 | Tem | to override the original |
| 03:53.19 | Rowne | Yeah, I guess ... damn. |
| 03:53.33 | Rowne | But I'm tempted to play. |
| 03:53.42 | Tem | have fun |
| 03:53.45 | Rowne | To hook all the model related functions off the playermodel and see what happens with them. |
| 03:53.54 | Rowne | It wouldn't be the first time Blizzard left a little hole like that open. |
| 03:53.58 | Tem | go for it |
| 03:54.32 | Rowne | Or I could just extract the Tiger model and toss it in the Data folder. |
| 03:54.39 | Rowne | Like with the Shaman totems. |
| 03:54.48 | Rowne | Named right, it should take over the player's model, possibly. |
| 03:54.52 | Rowne | I need to research this. |
| 03:55.15 | Tem | only certain models are capable of showing equipment |
| 03:55.37 | Rowne | The Tiger model is. |
| 03:55.48 | Rowne | I've seen screenshots of it sporting different equipment becaaaause ... |
| 03:55.50 | Rowne | You can get a Tiger suit! |
| 03:55.55 | Rowne | Like the Ogre suit. |
| 03:55.57 | Rowne | I read up on that. |
| 03:56.10 | Rowne | So theoretically ... |
| 04:03.27 | Stylpe | Sam & Max is coming after all? OHMIGAWD! |
| 04:03.55 | Rowne | I knew you'd react. |
| 04:04.03 | Rowne | And it's going to be episodic, like comics. |
| 04:04.22 | Stylpe | I love Telltale already! |
| 04:04.24 | Rowne | Also ... ooh: http://wowmapview.sourceforge.net/wowmodelview/ - that'll help in finding ze Tiger peoples. |
| 04:04.35 | Rowne | Anyone who's an adventure game fan does, Stylpe. |
| 04:04.42 | Rowne | They're looking VERY much like the new LucasArts. |
| 04:06.17 | Stylpe | Yaaaaay! Weeeeeee! /cheer/cheer/cheer/cheer/cheer/cheer |
| 04:06.28 | Stylpe | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.17 | Rowne | That was exactly my reaction. |
| 04:07.24 | Rowne | The World -needs- an Adventure Game company. |
| 04:07.49 | Stylpe | Bahahahaah! http://www.samandmax.com/ |
| 04:09.16 | Rowne | Yup, that's great, isn't it? |
| 04:09.21 | Rowne | Oh, I just found the Tiger model, by the way. |
| 04:09.27 | Rowne | It's beautiful. |
| 04:09.28 | Rowne | I must share. |
| 04:09.31 | Rowne | *Screenshot.* |
| 04:10.50 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TigerDude.jpg |
| 04:11.31 | Stylpe | Ooh, that's one of the ZG bosses |
| 04:11.49 | [Matryx] | also - there's a proc from an item set which turns you into that |
| 04:14.07 | Stylpe | WHAT |
| 04:14.32 | [Matryx] | I said there's a proc from an item set which imbues with some tiger god's spirit |
| 04:14.36 | [Matryx] | and turns you into that |
| 04:14.39 | Rowne | See ... |
| 04:14.45 | Rowne | What I'm thinking is we get that and we drop it into Data. |
| 04:14.49 | Rowne | As the player's model. |
| 04:14.57 | Rowne | Then we all wander around happily as TigerTauren. |
| 04:17.36 | Rowne | *Turn off model, turn on bone structure.* I found your stick-men, Matryx! |
| 04:18.37 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TigerStickman.jpg |
| 04:21.20 | [Matryx] | haha |
| 04:21.23 | [Matryx] | very nice |
| 04:21.27 | [Matryx] | ok - really going to sleep now |
| 04:21.30 | [Matryx] | up in 3 hrs :/ |
| 04:21.56 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TigerRoar.jpg |
| 04:22.03 | Rowne | Okay, the Tigons -need- to be the new race. :p |
| 04:22.16 | Rowne | I waaant this race of Tiger people. |
| 04:22.19 | [Matryx] | even though they were already confirmed as "not the new race" :P |
| 04:22.21 | Rowne | But I doubt it. |
| 04:22.24 | Rowne | I know. |
| 04:22.29 | Rowne | But that was Caydiem's mind-games. |
| 04:22.33 | Rowne | You can never trust her. |
| 04:22.34 | Rowne | Or can you? |
| 04:22.36 | Rowne | I don't know! :p |
| 04:24.42 | Tain | The key is to seduce her and you can get the truth from the pillow talk. |
| 04:25.18 | Cair | that would work ... if she didn't already have a boyfriend |
| 04:25.21 | Rowne | I wholeheartedly invite you to try. Go for it and seize the cay, I mean ... day, Tain. |
| 04:28.05 | Tain | Ooh that's funny |
| 04:28.27 | Tain | Anyway she might already have a boyfriend, but I'm way better. |
| 04:28.45 | Rowne | I blame cay's own signature, I just stole it. |
| 04:29.38 | Cair | apparently you missed that ... she *does* already have a boyfriend |
| 04:29.43 | Cair | :p |
| 04:30.07 | Cair | although, mind you, knowing who it is ... you're right, you're way better |
| 04:30.37 | Tain | hehehe |
| 04:30.43 | Rowne | Plus Tain's an ingenius coder, that elevates him to Godly ranks amongst us. |
| 04:30.56 | Rowne | I mean, first to do the damned resource ping. Th'git! I'm envious. But I admire him for it. |
| 04:31.17 | Tain | I'm rewriting my first addon to use your single variable method now, Rowne. |
| 04:31.17 | Rowne | You're going to go down in history for that Tain, you know that, don't you? |
| 04:31.44 | Rowne | At least, the history of the Warcraft community, anyway. |
| 04:31.49 | Tain | The only problem I'm having is it keeps telling me UnregisterEvent is nil. |
| 04:31.53 | Tain | I'm confused! |
| 04:31.59 | Rowne | That's odd. |
| 04:32.01 | Rowne | Also ... |
| 04:32.03 | Rowne | Just as a hint. |
| 04:32.10 | Rowne | Try fiddling with the Minimap instead of the MinimapCluster. |
| 04:32.15 | Rowne | I did that and got 20 per cent better results. |
| 04:32.18 | Tain | Actually Rowne, I'm disappointed in the lack of praise and worship at the tracking. |
| 04:32.28 | Rowne | I'm stunned about it too. |
| 04:32.35 | Rowne | But people just don't recognize genius when they see it. |
| 04:32.43 | Tain | It's so true. |
| 04:32.47 | Rowne | This explains many of the past great artists. |
| 04:33.02 | Rowne | Just don't go cutting off your ear or anything. |
| 04:34.46 | Tain | No, I'm not a big fan of blood. |
| 04:34.49 | Tain | Especially my own. |
| 04:44.01 | Cair | then again, I wanted to be a Paramedic, so obviously I needed to be able to handle blood |
| 04:46.31 | Codayus | Mmm, yes, that does sound like something of a prerequisite. |
| 04:47.29 | Codayus | I don't deal with blood very well at all. Then again, I've never felt the slightest urge towards any medical field either, so I guess that's okay. :-) |
| 04:47.38 | Cair | heh |
| 04:47.59 | Cair | It's *still* my dream job, even though it hasn't been a possibility for over 15 years |
| 04:48.27 | Codayus | I'm sorry to hear that. :-/ |
| 04:48.36 | Cair | *shrug* such is life |
| 04:51.59 | Stylpe | You know, after I finish College, I'll be eligible for one of the job offers at Telltale :D |
| 04:55.51 | *** join/##ace RasmusKL (i=RasmusKL@wnpgmb09dc1-117-2.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 04:59.37 | Rowne | Oh, hey Rasmus, what do you think of the new TimexBar stuffs? |
| 05:02.18 | RasmusKL | Looks really nice so far :-) |
| 05:02.23 | RasmusKL | Now I just need to put it to use |
| 05:02.37 | Stylpe | Here's something to waste an hour of your life: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sam_%26_Max:_Freelance_Police%21%21%21 |
| 05:06.14 | Rowne | You're as much of a fanboy as I am, Stylpe. |
| 05:06.23 | Rowne | Glad you like it, Ras. |
| 05:06.32 | Rowne | That new stuff in there ... sooo not easy. |
| 05:06.36 | Rowne | And you know the awesome part? |
| 05:06.42 | Rowne | They're more efficient than the old bars. |
| 05:06.43 | Rowne | By far. |
| 05:08.30 | Rowne | Oh no. |
| 05:08.34 | Rowne | Tekkub will be stopping by soon. |
| 05:08.37 | Rowne | And it's all my fault! |
| 05:08.48 | Rowne | ... but, he can then be pestered for a new Warmup. |
| 05:08.50 | Rowne | So that works. |
| 05:08.57 | Stylpe | Yess! |
| 05:09.06 | Stylpe | You did good, Rowne =) |
| 05:09.54 | Kaelten|AFK | hey rowne, AceGUIDev may not be as possible as we hoped. |
| 05:10.32 | *** join/##ace tekkub (n=tekkub@ip70-178-90-156.ma.dl.cox.net) |
| 05:10.43 | tekkub | *rawr* ! |
| 05:10.48 | Rowne | Kael: No? |
| 05:10.48 | Kaelten|AFK | hi tek |
| 05:10.59 | Kaelten|AFK | well I'm not sure 100% but its being a little bitch |
| 05:11.10 | Rowne | You'll get it, Kael. |
| 05:11.15 | Rowne | Or you can always pester kergoth. |
| 05:11.43 | Kaelten|AFK | AceGUI actually edits the definition a lot. plus it adds stuff to both the classes and to the xml objects |
| 05:12.00 | Kaelten|AFK | basically when I try to redraw it it ends up giving me a stack overflow. |
| 05:12.17 | Kaelten|AFK | I'm going to have to figure out a way to isolate the draw functions. |
| 05:12.37 | Kaelten|AFK | although I have a neat function for turning a data structure into code. |
| 05:13.07 | Rowne | Okay, so ... tekkub was expecting some kind of rite of passage I think. I'll have to leave that to you guys since I need to be heading out soon. |
| 05:13.11 | Rowne | RL is calling upon my presence. |
| 05:13.12 | Stylpe | Tekkub! Hi! |
| 05:13.23 | tekkub | *bends over* |
| 05:13.31 | tekkub | Rowne before you go... |
| 05:13.41 | tekkub | you're on a RP server right? |
| 05:13.56 | Rowne | Yeah but an Eu server. |
| 05:13.58 | tekkub | wait you've read my PM... reply to it :) |
| 05:14.13 | tekkub | oh, damn you you brittish bastard |
| 05:14.29 | tekkub | I thought you were on US, did that change after your break from the game |
| 05:15.32 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 05:15.39 | Rowne | Now my account is being ... paid for. |
| 05:15.40 | tekkub | blast! |
| 05:16.00 | Rowne | Though I've been tempted to get myself and my friend transferred if I can do enough convincin'. |
| 05:16.02 | tekkub | well I guess I don't have to force me duo partner to rerererereroll now |
| 05:16.06 | Rowne | So it still might be posseebleh. |
| 05:16.22 | Rowne | You should reroll. |
| 05:16.25 | Rowne | You should roll up Warlocks. |
| 05:16.31 | Rowne | And go into battle with Sqrls of Doom. |
| 05:16.36 | tekkub | oh, I'm the master of rerolling |
| 05:16.47 | tekkub | I was on a PvP server and hated PvP |
| 05:16.53 | tekkub | I had many a lv.25 toon |
| 05:16.57 | Rowne | Who likes PvP anyway? |
| 05:17.08 | Rowne | It takes the fun out of exploring. |
| 05:17.11 | tekkub | all the jerks in my guild did |
| 05:17.16 | tekkub | exactly |
| 05:17.27 | Rowne | "Hey, I wonder what's down this pat-- ... AUGH", You were killed by Stupid Bastard Gnome. |
| 05:17.34 | tekkub | it's amazing... they vowed never to roll ally way back a year ago.. |
| 05:17.46 | tekkub | now they roll ally on a new server and love it |
| 05:17.55 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 05:17.55 | tekkub | yet refuse to roll PvE for me |
| 05:18.19 | tekkub | I mean, seriously they just need to type /pvp once and they'll never know the diff |
| 05:19.26 | Rowne | This is true. |
| 05:20.05 | tekkub | besides, the good PvP is in BG... outside there's no purpose to it except to disrupt other's fun |
| 05:20.31 | Tain | ooh that's a good idea for an addon, throw a /pvp randomly in the middle when no one expects it. |
| 05:20.54 | tekkub | hehe |
| 05:21.16 | tekkub | trigger it on an event |
| 05:21.18 | Rowne | And hide it as one letter variables! |
| 05:21.33 | Rowne | self.ExecuteChatCommand(e..u..a..i) |
| 05:22.13 | tekkub | InnocentMod:TriggerPVPatleastliklytime() |
| 05:22.34 | tekkub | oh, name the mod "I didn't do it" |
| 05:23.47 | Rowne | Then again, we wouldn't need to hide it. :p |
| 05:23.58 | Rowne | I think DefendYourself proved that most people don't read Lua files. |
| 05:24.06 | tekkub | heh |
| 05:24.08 | Rowne | Or am I the only one that does that for every AddOn he uses? |
| 05:25.20 | tekkub | if (UnitLevel("target") > UnitLevel("player") + 10) and (UnitCanAttack("target", "player") then Ididntdoit:DoIt() end |
| 05:25.43 | Rowne | You can call that as self too. |
| 05:25.53 | Rowne | self:DOOOIT(). |
| 05:26.18 | tekkub | self:Talkto() |
| 05:26.26 | Rowne | Yay! MegaHAL AddOn! |
| 05:26.41 | Rowne | Oh Gods, that'd be so funny ... |
| 05:26.43 | Kaelten|AFK | What was in DefendYourself that no one read? |
| 05:26.44 | Rowne | I wonder if it's possible. |
| 05:26.58 | Rowne | Ska Demon put something in there that I found hilarious. |
| 05:27.01 | tekkub | hrm... change all the "I can't do that yet" to "I'm sorry Dave..." |
| 05:27.01 | Rowne | Everyone else went batshit. |
| 05:27.18 | Rowne | Basically, if you stayed in town too long, you had a: social explosion. |
| 05:27.18 | Kaelten|AFK | well what was it? |
| 05:27.23 | Rowne | And you'd say and do all kinds of weird things. |
| 05:27.30 | Kaelten|AFK | lol |
| 05:27.32 | Rowne | It'd start off with ... |
| 05:27.37 | Rowne | "You hear a strange ticking sound." |
| 05:27.45 | Rowne | *Tick.* *Tock.* *Tick.* *Tock.* |
| 05:27.46 | tekkub | hehe, I'm in town like 95% of the time |
| 05:27.48 | Rowne | SOCIAL EXPLOSION! |
| 05:28.02 | Rowne | "What's the intarnet, can I eat it?" |
| 05:28.15 | tekkub | but I hide in less laggy areas cause I reloadUI a lot |
| 05:28.21 | Rowne | Likewise. |
| 05:28.26 | Kaelten|AFK | thats great |
| 05:28.33 | Rowne | They're going to kill my favourite hideouts in 1.9. *Cry.* |
| 05:28.34 | Kaelten|AFK | I bet no one know what the hell it was |
| 05:28.42 | Rowne | The secret area up behind Deathknell that nobody knows about. |
| 05:28.48 | tekkub | Nerf under the bed! |
| 05:28.49 | Rowne | That's three times the size of Orgrimmar and completely unspwned. |
| 05:28.55 | Rowne | And Thunder Bluff. |
| 05:28.59 | Rowne | They're going to put an AH there. >.< |
| 05:29.12 | tekkub | I love the TB AH |
| 05:29.14 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 05:29.19 | Rowne | Exactly. |
| 05:29.27 | tekkub | I don't see why they didn't do this A YEAR AGO |
| 05:29.28 | Rowne | All yous AH people will be lagging up my unlaggy area! |
| 05:29.29 | Codayus | I've got a copy of DefendYourself around here somewhere... |
| 05:29.41 | Rowne | Cod, it was only in a REALLY OLD version. |
| 05:29.43 | tekkub | I'm not an AH people I'm a mod people |
| 05:29.45 | Codayus | Doesn't look like it's a version with the fun stuff though. |
| 05:29.53 | Rowne | Ska removed it after like, half of the forum bitched like hell at him. |
| 05:30.00 | Codayus | Well, this *IS* a pretty old version. Not old enough though. 'sfunny though. :-) |
| 05:30.04 | Rowne | Talk about Stick-up-Arse nation, eesh. |
| 05:30.26 | tekkub | "omg wtf i didnt typ that!" |
| 05:30.44 | tekkub | "my mod hax!" |
| 05:30.54 | Rowne | That was basically it, yes. |
| 05:31.18 | Kaelten|AFK | Rowne: I got a question for you, In my new version of KC_AutoRepair I got my function that is spost to be reading repaircost from the inventory. |
| 05:31.23 | Kaelten|AFK | well it works in one place but not in the other. |
| 05:31.32 | Rowne | "I'm an RPer, I said crazy batshit things, I lost credibility with my Guild, they booted me out. I lost my job. My Car got repo'd, my house was demolished and my children were murdered. It all started going downhill from DefendYourself so IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!" |
| 05:32.08 | tekkub | how you pulling repair cost? |
| 05:32.27 | tekkub | *digs out Titan [Durability]* |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten|AFK | for bag = 0,4 do |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten|AFK | for slot = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(bag) do |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten|AFK | local _, repairCost = GameTooltip:SetBagItem(bag,slot); |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten|AFK | if (repairCost) then invcost = invcost + repairCost; end |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten|AFK | end |
| 05:32.47 | Kaelten|AFK | end |
| 05:32.49 | Kaelten|AFK | that |
| 05:33.16 | Rowne | Mmmh, there's a function for that. |
| 05:33.19 | Kaelten|AFK | been using it since I since I wrote AutoRepair, in what, april? jeeze can't believe I've been making mods that long |
| 05:33.20 | Rowne | Why are you scanning the tooltip? |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten|AFK | well if there is one that does it for inventory I'd rather use it |
| 05:33.37 | tekkub | you don't scann the tooltip |
| 05:33.46 | tekkub | setting it returns the repair cost |
| 05:33.56 | tekkub | and that's what I use too... |
| 05:33.59 | Kaelten|AFK | at the time there wasn't one for inventory. |
| 05:34.07 | tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.23 | Kaelten|AFK | I'm trying to figure out why its only working part of the time. |
| 05:34.26 | Rowne | Hm ... GetRepairAllCost()? |
| 05:34.26 | tekkub | that's what's in Titan {Durability] |
| 05:34.43 | tekkub | what does it do the other part of the time? |
| 05:34.52 | Kaelten|AFK | Rowne: that only does it for your equipment |
| 05:34.53 | Kaelten|AFK | 0 |
| 05:35.02 | Rowne | I know why it's working. |
| 05:35.05 | Rowne | Er, not working. |
| 05:35.08 | Rowne | Working and not working. |
| 05:35.12 | Rowne | Being less working-er. |
| 05:35.12 | Kaelten|AFK | why? |
| 05:35.19 | Rowne | You don't check for ... uh ... |
| 05:35.39 | Kaelten|AFK | ? |
| 05:35.44 | tekkub | instaciation? (sp?) |
| 05:35.51 | Rowne | GameTooltipMoneyFrame:IsVisible() |
| 05:35.56 | Kaelten|AFK | hmm |
| 05:36.03 | Rowne | If that's visible, it screws tooltip info up. |
| 05:36.09 | Rowne | So if that's visible, skip. |
| 05:36.13 | tekkub | ./hate tooltips |
| 05:36.14 | Kaelten|AFK | well this is actually returned from the function. |
| 05:36.29 | Rowne | Yeah but you're using GameTooltip. |
| 05:36.35 | Rowne | GameTooltip is often possessed by the game engine to do weird things. |
| 05:36.40 | Rowne | I suggest you create your own KaelTip. |
| 05:36.46 | Rowne | Or check for the moneyframe. |
| 05:36.57 | tekkub | yea use your own tooltip |
| 05:37.03 | Kaelten|AFK | hmm |
| 05:37.16 | tekkub | people get just as bitchy when you mess with GameTooltip |
| 05:37.20 | Rowne | See ... |
| 05:37.24 | Rowne | This is why I said that: |
| 05:37.29 | Rowne | "Ace needs its own XML Tooltip" |
| 05:37.32 | Rowne | That we can all play with. |
| 05:37.47 | Rowne | If we all had AceTip, we'd live happily ever after and use only that. |
| 05:37.50 | tekkub | OMG! My tooltip sometimes changes and I have to rehover and it's giving me carpal tunnel! |
| 05:38.14 | Kaelten|AFK | lol |
| 05:38.19 | tekkub | ./agree a common tooltip parser would rawk |
| 05:38.31 | Kaelten|AFK | ya I have a FREAKY bug with OneBag and KCI |
| 05:38.37 | Kaelten|AFK | sometimes the tooltip doesn't show |
| 05:38.40 | Kaelten|AFK | and there is no clue why |
| 05:38.47 | tekkub | you say, pass an item and it pulls the tooltip out and returns a table with all the values |
| 05:38.50 | Kaelten|AFK | and I wonder why the hell Slouken ALWAYS ignores my posts |
| 05:39.00 | tekkub | slouken's cute |
| 05:39.13 | Kaelten|AFK | hell and I gave him my ticket to see Offspring at Blizzcon |
| 05:39.20 | Kaelten|AFK | hehe |
| 05:39.22 | tekkub | but he ignores my "why the fuck can't I have 2048x768???" posts |
| 05:39.40 | Kaelten|AFK | I just want FontString to have GetParent() |
| 05:39.43 | tekkub | so I hate him. I hate his sexy self |
| 05:40.38 | Kaelten|AFK | lol |
| 05:40.59 | Stylpe | tekkub: Are you gonna post that Warmup update you announced 4 hours ago? =P |
| 05:41.04 | Kaelten|AFK | Ya Rowne I had to change AceGUI to get it to support Fontstrings all the way. |
| 05:41.13 | tekkub | no |
| 05:41.19 | Rowne | Oooh. |
| 05:41.20 | tekkub | it was up 4 hours ago |
| 05:41.24 | Kaelten|AFK | and it still probably only supports half of what fontstrings should do. |
| 05:41.41 | Rowne | Still, that's neat. |
| 05:41.42 | tekkub | I didn't post change notes to the first post... I guess I'll do that... *grumble* |
| 05:42.00 | Kaelten|AFK | yep, it will position them and set them to a value |
| 05:42.28 | Kaelten|AFK | I still need to add support for changing fonts coloring and alpha |
| 05:42.42 | Kaelten|AFK | but alpha may not come anytime soon I think you have to do a parent frame for alpha |
| 05:42.54 | Kaelten|AFK | and that would involve me editing huge portions of AceGUI |
| 05:43.11 | Kaelten|AFK | since Turan used a simple FontString object in it. |
| 05:44.19 | tekkub | OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG !!! |
| 05:44.25 | tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=238150&P=13 |
| 05:44.42 | tekkub | *gleeeeee* |
| 05:44.50 | tekkub | no more fat tauren and dorfs |
| 05:44.50 | Kaelten|AFK | talking about the two screen thign? |
| 05:44.56 | tekkub | *nod* |
| 05:45.07 | tekkub | seriously, you know how bad it is? |
| 05:45.32 | tekkub | I get on my hubby's comp and go "WTF, when did his NE get even more tall and lanky" |
| 05:45.44 | tekkub | "oh wait... bad aspect ratio on my comp..." |
| 05:46.45 | Kaelten | hey Tekkub you should join the wowi-lounge too |
| 05:47.00 | tekkub | punch and pie? |
| 05:48.30 | Kaelten | pretty good conversation between a lot of different people |
| 05:49.09 | tekkub | but no punch and pie? screw that.... I'm hungry |
| 05:49.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:49.20 | Kaelten | well guys I got to go afk again |
| 06:01.28 | Stylpe | HAH! |
| 06:01.36 | Stylpe | I'm cool! |
| 06:02.18 | Stylpe | Oh, is there a way to fade out the GameTooltip |
| 06:02.19 | Stylpe | ? |
| 06:02.28 | tekkub | *shrug* |
| 06:02.35 | tekkub | I hate the GameTooltip |
| 06:02.40 | tekkub | it can go to hell |
| 06:02.42 | tekkub | and die |
| 06:03.00 | Stylpe | That pretty much voids the 'go to hell' bit |
| 06:06.19 | Rowne | Day of Joy and Jubilation, Frollicking Fun and Happy H... no, that's enough alliteration for now. Good times call and I must flee. |
| 06:06.44 | Rowne | I shall leave everyone with the Universal expression of ... WTF. |
| 06:06.46 | *** part/##ace Rowne (n=Wuff@81-178-121-210.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 06:35.03 | Cair | night all |
| 06:57.55 | tekkub | oh I like that... |
| 06:57.59 | tekkub | mt |
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| 08:20.49 | *** part/##ace Rando1 (n=Randor@xdsl-81-173-158-244.netcologne.de) |
| 08:45.26 | *** join/##ace Industrial (n=tom@gateway.is.remotion.nl) |
| 09:22.02 | *** join/##ace Rowne (n=Wuff@81-178-121-210.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 09:22.59 | Rowne | Okay, I've found a -new- thing of strangeness. |
| 09:23.51 | Rowne | Why do Goblins; A) have the ability to equip all equippable items, every single one, B) have a character-creations Pants-O-Vision model, C) have every damn player animation in the book, D) list themselves under player models ... oh, I could go on but I won't. |
| 09:25.20 | Rowne | I mean, Goblins don't jump either, do they? For example. Yet they have a jump animation, I'm looking at it. |
| 09:25.37 | Rowne | Same for the sit animation, dance animation and so on. |
| 09:25.45 | Rowne | And I know of no 'Goblin suit' ... |
| 09:25.58 | tekkub | pirate costume |
| 09:26.04 | tekkub | it was a gobbie |
| 09:26.17 | tekkub | they even had a (mad) dance |
| 09:26.20 | tekkub | *bad |
| 09:26.26 | Codayus | Actually, just because you can turn into something doesn't mean they have to have animiatons and dances. |
| 09:26.40 | Codayus | A lot of the haloween costumes turned you into things with very limited animations... |
| 09:26.45 | tekkub | yea, no bear dance /cry |
| 09:26.49 | Codayus | I think one of the skeleton models couldn't walk backwards. |
| 09:26.56 | tekkub | hell Wisp couldn't do shit |
| 09:26.56 | Rowne | Okay ... |
| 09:26.59 | MatryxWrk | good morning again everyone |
| 09:27.05 | Codayus | Well, yeah, but you expect that. :-) |
| 09:27.15 | MatryxWrk | I still have most of the wands |
| 09:27.20 | tekkub | I at least wanted to tinke when I jusmped |
| 09:27.23 | MatryxWrk | I plan to sell costumes in a month or two :) |
| 09:27.26 | tekkub | *tinkle |
| 09:27.28 | Codayus | Yeah, I've got a bunch... |
| 09:27.29 | Codayus | LOL |
| 09:27.45 | tekkub | I have a bankful on my neverplayed PvP alt |
| 09:27.50 | Codayus | I wonder what the christmas event will be this time? |
| 09:27.54 | tekkub | like 20 Randoms |
| 09:28.00 | Rowne | Hm ... |
| 09:28.03 | Rowne | Another ponderance ... |
| 09:28.06 | tekkub | Santa hats! |
| 09:28.10 | Codayus | I hope it's as cool as last one. I was too low level then to get some of the good stuff. |
| 09:28.11 | tekkub | Satan hats! |
| 09:28.13 | Rowne | I wonder if the WoW Model Viewer has the same layout as the file. |
| 09:28.15 | Rowne | Because ... |
| 09:28.17 | Codayus | Like snowball makers. >< |
| 09:28.25 | Rowne | The WoW model viewer lists Goblins under the player models tree. :p |
| 09:28.35 | tekkub | yup, that it does |
| 09:28.41 | Rowne | I can only stare. |
| 09:28.48 | Rowne | And equip them with strange, strange things. |
| 09:28.56 | Rowne | And then stare more! |
| 09:28.58 | Codayus | Hmm, I just don't see goblins coming in as anything other than a neutral race... |
| 09:29.04 | tekkub | I bet way back when they planned for gobbies to be a neutral playable race |
| 09:29.10 | Rowne | But they're fully equippable! |
| 09:29.15 | Rowne | Even the Tigers aren't that, I was mistaken. |
| 09:29.18 | Codayus | And a neutral race is a probably never going to happen... |
| 09:29.19 | tekkub | but in early testing found neutral wouldn't work for PvP |
| 09:29.20 | Rowne | The only fully equippable races are ... |
| 09:29.34 | Codayus | AO tried a neutral faction. Sucked. :-/ |
| 09:29.36 | Rowne | Tauren, Orc, Undead, Troll, Human, Gnome, Dwarf, Elf, Goblin. |
| 09:29.48 | Rowne | And believe me, I've done -lots- of playing around. |
| 09:30.00 | tekkub | I play around a lot |
| 09:30.09 | tekkub | they tell me it's unhealthy |
| 09:30.19 | Rowne | I think it's just Blizzard playing with my brain, personally. |
| 09:30.27 | tekkub | they do like that |
| 09:30.30 | Rowne | But I still get to play dress-up Goblin! |
| 09:30.40 | tekkub | there's a whole "lets fuck with the customers" dept |
| 09:30.57 | Codayus | I'd love goblins to be playable though. They've got a cool sounding capital, and nifty social dynamics...would be fun. |
| 09:31.00 | tekkub | it covers everything from Auctioneer Orly to wacky coding practices |
| 09:31.13 | Codayus | Auctioneer WHAT? |
| 09:31.16 | MatryxWrk | speaking of auctioneer, I removed that last night |
| 09:31.25 | tekkub | "lets make an event fire hundreds of times just to fuck with mods that use the event" |
| 09:31.28 | MatryxWrk | it's lua file had bloated to about 6.6mb |
| 09:31.30 | Rowne | Wow, Goblin in platemail is really odd. |
| 09:31.36 | tekkub | Auctioneer Orly in UC |
| 09:31.39 | Rowne | I also found Anubis. |
| 09:31.41 | Codayus | .... |
| 09:31.44 | Rowne | Warcraft has Egyptian content? |
| 09:31.46 | Codayus | *snerk* |
| 09:31.48 | tekkub | Anubis is in AQ I think |
| 09:31.50 | Codayus | Rowne: Yeah, I've found him too. |
| 09:31.51 | MatryxWrk | rowne: yes |
| 09:31.56 | Codayus | Killed him. :-) |
| 09:32.00 | Rowne | That's awesome. |
| 09:32.01 | Rowne | You fiend! |
| 09:32.06 | Codayus | There's two mobs with the model in silathis. |
| 09:32.08 | MatryxWrk | weren't the anubis things "Guardians of blizzard" or something at one point? |
| 09:32.16 | tekkub | sorry, it's Auctioneer Yarly... but I hear there's an Orly too |
| 09:32.35 | Rowne | I also find it funny that the Zhevra were originally meant to be Unicorns. |
| 09:32.35 | Codayus | One massive raid boss type, plus a much smaller/easier rare spawn. |
| 09:32.37 | tekkub | I thought the GoB were just Infernals with Touch of Death |
| 09:32.49 | Codayus | I killed the rare...took a three man group. He dropped a green. And killed me. Bastard. |
| 09:32.50 | Rowne | I mean, their model is Unicorn.m2. :p |
| 09:33.00 | tekkub | hehe |
| 09:33.10 | Codayus | It's a BEUTIFUL model though. |
| 09:33.14 | Codayus | Really nice. |
| 09:33.19 | tekkub | I replaced SeaLion with Orca |
| 09:33.23 | Rowne | I also find it hilarious that the Tigons are actually Tigons. |
| 09:33.26 | Rowne | TigonMale.m2 and all. |
| 09:33.34 | Codayus | And hey, the green trash auctioned for like, 5g. (Some leather shoulders of agility.) So that was all good. |
| 09:33.37 | Rowne | I thought someone made that up. |
| 09:34.04 | tekkub | Blizzard must employ at least one Furry you know |
| 09:34.12 | tekkub | I'm sure he made sure it was right |
| 09:34.25 | Rowne | I think every company does. |
| 09:34.31 | Rowne | Haven't you noticed the influx of furries in games lately? |
| 09:34.37 | tekkub | law of averages :) |
| 09:34.40 | Rowne | It's hit some insane highs, like Beyond Good and Evil. |
| 09:35.01 | Rowne | Whatever works, I suppose. |
| 09:35.09 | tekkub | I remember this one furry in FFXI... he was a Galkan WHM too |
| 09:35.15 | tekkub | I loved galkan magi |
| 09:35.20 | tekkub | I miss my galka's ass |
| 09:35.28 | tekkub | tauren ass just ain't the same |
| 09:35.33 | Rowne | I loved my Galka bard. |
| 09:35.46 | tekkub | see, you and I are way too alike |
| 09:35.47 | Rowne | Very pavorotti. |
| 09:35.51 | tekkub | it's scary |
| 09:36.12 | tekkub | you know what got me into MMOs in the first place? |
| 09:36.17 | Rowne | Yeah, I'd run past people, sing a few notes to save their lives then move on. |
| 09:36.25 | Rowne | "WTF?! Were we just saved by a singing Galka?!" |
| 09:36.28 | Rowne | Yes, that was said once. |
| 09:36.38 | tekkub | I saw a galka in the opening vid... I go "drool" and my roomie says" you can play that race" |
| 09:36.48 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 09:37.00 | tekkub | I was running to every game store that day |
| 09:37.06 | Rowne | I played on a UO server for a while as a GM. |
| 09:37.09 | Rowne | I was a Wolf. |
| 09:37.15 | Rowne | I was -always- a Wolf. |
| 09:37.20 | Rowne | A colour-changing Wolf in fact. |
| 09:37.23 | tekkub | and yea, I got a few OMG the WHM raising is a galka?!?! |
| 09:37.32 | Rowne | Hahahaha, yup. |
| 09:37.39 | Rowne | Nothing lasts as long as a Galka. |
| 09:37.47 | Rowne | Mages are weaksauce, they need the Galka defense. |
| 09:37.48 | tekkub | I even got a "do you even have enough MP to cast it?" |
| 09:38.00 | Rowne | Hahahahaha. |
| 09:38.02 | tekkub | I said "oh wait, no I don't" and left the dick laying there dead |
| 09:38.19 | Rowne | Good for you, he deserved it. |
| 09:38.24 | Rowne | Disrespecting the poor Galka. |
| 09:38.38 | tekkub | yup, I let a few stuck up taru die too |
| 09:38.41 | MatryxWrk | rowne - you'll probably enjoy this thread - http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=681 |
| 09:38.47 | Rowne | Oh, I was also disappointed when Bahamut showed up like only in a five minute FMV. |
| 09:38.49 | Rowne | My reaction? |
| 09:38.54 | tekkub | made em admit they were wrong before I raised em |
| 09:39.10 | Rowne | "No, stay! Destroy things! Bring ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION. Can I watch? You'd be so majestic bringing death to everything." |
| 09:39.17 | tekkub | hehe |
| 09:40.37 | Rowne | Bahamut was -awesome-. |
| 09:40.37 | Rowne | One thing FF XI did have was graphics. |
| 09:40.37 | Rowne | And then some. |
| 09:40.37 | tekkub | yea, FFXI was beautiful |
| 09:40.37 | tekkub | graphics, plot, galka... |
| 09:40.37 | tekkub | music... |
| 09:40.49 | Rowne | The only part I didn't like was the constant party requirement. |
| 09:40.50 | tekkub | too bad the game mechanics were rather harsh |
| 09:40.52 | Rowne | No soloing at all. |
| 09:40.54 | Rowne | Yeah. |
| 09:41.00 | Rowne | I tended to go exploring, mind you. |
| 09:41.05 | tekkub | I still say WoW's engine, FFXI's world |
| 09:41.10 | tekkub | perfect combo |
| 09:41.14 | Rowne | I made it halfway across the damn World as a level 10. |
| 09:41.20 | MatryxWrk | I picked up Eve online last night |
| 09:41.24 | Rowne | I just slipped by everything, as a Galka. Bard. |
| 09:41.28 | MatryxWrk | got badgered into trying it from friends |
| 09:41.30 | tekkub | oh I know, I was the master of sneak/invis |
| 09:41.32 | MatryxWrk | it's really pretty =) |
| 09:41.47 | Rowne | I just wish you could actually fly from the inside of your ship in that game. |
| 09:41.47 | tekkub | I went up to hall of gods once |
| 09:41.51 | tekkub | and fished |
| 09:41.52 | Rowne | I was hoping for Earth and Beyond. |
| 09:41.59 | MatryxWrk | yeah - that's about the only downside I can find so far |
| 09:41.59 | tekkub | some HNMLS comes thru... |
| 09:42.00 | Rowne | but instead it's; "Click this area of space to move." |
| 09:42.06 | MatryxWrk | but then I've only just done the tutorial |
| 09:42.09 | tekkub | suddenly there's 30 people fishing |
| 09:42.14 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 09:42.16 | tekkub | in a zone that had no fish |
| 09:42.18 | MatryxWrk | I shall investigate if I can use my joystick. |
| 09:42.33 | Rowne | I was really hoping for Earth and Beyond, I liked that. |
| 09:42.38 | Rowne | I want an online Vega-Strike, dammit. |
| 09:42.44 | Rowne | Freelancer was pretty decent, online. |
| 09:42.47 | tekkub | EVE is fun, but the UI.... *cry* |
| 09:43.01 | MatryxWrk | well this is the closest I've seen to an online-first-encounters |
| 09:43.04 | tekkub | and making 40-jump trips across the universe... |
| 09:43.11 | tekkub | *whimper* |
| 09:43.12 | MatryxWrk | which is what I've been holding out for for like ever |
| 09:43.20 | Rowne | "Think you can gank me, you bastards? *Fly into spike, zoom away.* Ha ... hahahaha ... HAHAHAHA .. HAAA. ... what? Oh shit! NO! They can bring down the travelways?!" |
| 09:43.21 | MatryxWrk | tekkub - autopilot + alt+tab to WoW |
| 09:43.22 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 09:43.52 | tekkub | I didn't have WoW at the time, I was on my break from it |
| 09:44.07 | MatryxWrk | ah |
| 09:44.07 | tekkub | translation: I had no cash so I was milking it's free trial |
| 09:44.30 | tekkub | but I needed the break, and I came out of it with a duo partner |
| 09:44.57 | Rowne | I should try and get a transfer to a US server. |
| 09:45.07 | Rowne | To try and show you how to hoof before they take it away forever. *Cry.* |
| 09:45.20 | MoonWolf | they are nerfing hoofing ? |
| 09:45.25 | Rowne | My main outlet for exploration, they're killing it ... |
| 09:45.32 | MatryxWrk | oh - terrain walking? |
| 09:45.39 | Rowne | Yeah. |
| 09:45.44 | MatryxWrk | no more mountaineering :( |
| 09:45.44 | MoonWolf | no more horizontal walking ? |
| 09:45.46 | Rowne | Except Taurens can do -so much more- with it. |
| 09:45.47 | tekkub | I don't know how to wallwalk |
| 09:46.00 | tekkub | you must xfer! |
| 09:46.01 | Rowne | I mean, most races can do it, to a degree. |
| 09:46.01 | MatryxWrk | I got on top of ogrimmar |
| 09:46.03 | MatryxWrk | that was amusing |
| 09:46.05 | Rowne | But when you use a male Tauren ... |
| 09:46.06 | tekkub | heck I'll make you a deal |
| 09:46.09 | Rowne | I've been -underneath- Org. |
| 09:46.17 | Rowne | I've been in the Ragefire Chasm instance mockup. |
| 09:46.21 | MatryxWrk | yeah, I did that when I bugged =) |
| 09:46.23 | Rowne | I've waved at people from the other side of the door. |
| 09:46.26 | MatryxWrk | fell through the floor |
| 09:46.27 | MatryxWrk | also |
| 09:46.29 | MatryxWrk | it's easy |
| 09:46.35 | Rowne | That one's easy. |
| 09:46.35 | MatryxWrk | when you exceed your instance allowance |
| 09:46.35 | Codayus | Nightelves aren't bad at it. |
| 09:46.38 | MatryxWrk | you can just run in |
| 09:47.05 | MatryxWrk | I quite like sitting behind the load-zone in scarlet monastery zones and ambushing those who spawn in |
| 09:47.08 | Rowne | Oooh. |
| 09:47.09 | Rowne | http://www.illitrate.co.uk/wow/hoofin/ |
| 09:47.10 | MatryxWrk | a bit nasty I know ;) |
| 09:47.24 | Rowne | Do check out that. |
| 09:47.29 | MatryxWrk | when warriors charge at you - they end up zoning back into the instance |
| 09:47.31 | MatryxWrk | it's most amusing |
| 09:47.32 | MatryxWrk | *click* |
| 09:47.39 | Rowne | That was me hoofing to the BIG place. |
| 09:47.46 | Rowne | The place that's three times the size of Org with room to spare. |
| 09:47.49 | MoonWolf | big place ? |
| 09:47.52 | MoonWolf | where is it ? |
| 09:47.52 | Rowne | Completely unspawned. |
| 09:47.57 | Rowne | Completely f***ed up. |
| 09:48.05 | Rowne | There's a giant undead foot there too. |
| 09:48.11 | tekkub | FOOT! |
| 09:48.11 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 09:48.12 | Rowne | I show about 5 per cent of the place in the movie. |
| 09:48.14 | MoonWolf | oh the zone near Tirisfall |
| 09:48.26 | Rowne | You remember the movie, Moon. *Amused.* |
| 09:48.33 | Cair | ~hail undead foot |
| 09:48.34 | purl | ACTION bows down to undead foot and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:48.34 | MoonWolf | yes. All hail the foot. |
| 09:48.34 | Rowne | This isn't the first time I've posted tha tlink here. |
| 09:48.41 | Rowne | Hahahahahaha. |
| 09:48.48 | Rowne | Who taught it that? |
| 09:48.56 | MoonWolf | no idea |
| 09:49.07 | Rowne | Or is that just ~hail with undead foot? |
| 09:49.09 | Cair | I don't remember |
| 09:49.15 | Rowne | ~hail Bob |
| 09:49.17 | purl | ACTION bows down to Bob and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:49.20 | Cair | that's just ~hail |
| 09:49.20 | Rowne | Ah. |
| 09:49.24 | MatryxWrk | shame =) |
| 09:49.25 | Rowne | ~rlart |
| 09:49.29 | Cair | ~undead foot |
| 09:49.37 | Cair | ~undeadfoot |
| 09:49.39 | Rowne | ~undead foot is All hail the gigantic undead foot! |
| 09:49.40 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 09:49.42 | tekkub | ~hail a cab |
| 09:49.43 | purl | ACTION bows down to a cab and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:49.46 | Cair | ~undead |
| 09:49.52 | Rowne | ~undead foot |
| 09:49.53 | purl | hmm... undead foot is All hail the gigantic undead foot! |
| 09:49.55 | tekkub | *giggle* |
| 09:49.59 | Cair | there we go |
| 09:50.08 | Rowne | purl: no undead foot is <reply>All hail the gigantic undead foot! |
| 09:50.10 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 09:50.14 | Rowne | ~undead foot |
| 09:50.16 | purl | All hail the gigantic undead foot! |
| 09:50.32 | Rowne | If you go to Deathknell though ... |
| 09:50.35 | Rowne | Look to the West on your map. |
| 09:50.40 | Cair | I still like ~hail better :p |
| 09:50.43 | Rowne | There's a -freaking huge- area you can't uncover. |
| 09:50.44 | tekkub | the empty area! |
| 09:50.45 | Rowne | I've been there. |
| 09:50.47 | Rowne | Yes. |
| 09:50.49 | Rowne | I've been in it. |
| 09:50.57 | tekkub | what about the IF airstrip :) |
| 09:51.00 | Rowne | The movie shows you how to get there. |
| 09:51.02 | Rowne | Been there. |
| 09:51.04 | Rowne | Been beyond there. |
| 09:51.10 | MoonWolf | what is beyond ? |
| 09:51.10 | Rowne | "This way.", "That way.", "The other way." |
| 09:51.13 | tekkub | I need to "explore" more |
| 09:51.14 | Rowne | I love those signs. |
| 09:51.22 | MoonWolf | thre is signs there ? |
| 09:51.23 | Cair | I *love* those signs |
| 09:51.27 | Rowne | I've been over Greymane Wall. |
| 09:51.36 | Cair | you find the chasm of nothing? |
| 09:51.37 | Rowne | I've been through Lordaeron's non-existant roof. |
| 09:51.40 | MoonWolf | what would be there ? |
| 09:51.42 | Rowne | Lordaeron has a hole in the World. |
| 09:51.45 | Rowne | You just ... drop in. |
| 09:51.46 | Cair | yup |
| 09:51.50 | Rowne | And fall and fall and fall and fall. |
| 09:51.55 | tekkub | oh yea... current rumor on Tsujigiri is ally race will be Wrogen |
| 09:51.56 | Rowne | Then you get 'corrected'. |
| 09:52.00 | Rowne | Corrected is instant death. |
| 09:52.19 | MatryxWrk | rowne |
| 09:52.20 | Rowne | I've been -above- Ashenvale, too. |
| 09:52.23 | MatryxWrk | you use fraps |
| 09:52.25 | MatryxWrk | *ghah* |
| 09:52.28 | MoonWolf | i had that once, when i came out of WC i fell and fell and fell. dead. go to corpse fall fall fall dead |
| 09:52.29 | MoonWolf | etc |
| 09:52.29 | MatryxWrk | www.planetgamecam.com |
| 09:52.33 | Rowne | I had nothing else at the time, Matryx. |
| 09:52.37 | MatryxWrk | ah ok |
| 09:52.39 | Rowne | It was just something I plucked off the net to use. |
| 09:52.40 | MatryxWrk | you are forgiven :) |
| 09:52.42 | Rowne | Because I wanted to show people. |
| 09:52.46 | Rowne | Anyway ... |
| 09:52.47 | tekkub | I loved the old ship bug |
| 09:52.52 | Rowne | I've been above Ashenvale. |
| 09:52.55 | Rowne | So high above. |
| 09:52.58 | Rowne | Not like, mountain high. |
| 09:53.00 | Codayus | I was fighting azuregos - he hit me through the world... |
| 09:53.02 | Rowne | I mean, mountain-tip high. |
| 09:53.08 | Rowne | I've looked -down- on the trees. |
| 09:53.12 | Codayus | Which killed me, and left my corpse down there. |
| 09:53.16 | Codayus | So far down I couldn't rez... |
| 09:53.19 | tekkub | you're riding the ship, suddenly all the pets zip off... you think.. WTF? them BAM! everyone's swimming |
| 09:53.20 | Rowne | You know what else I found? |
| 09:53.21 | Codayus | Had to log out and back in. :-( |
| 09:53.26 | Rowne | A shortcut from Mulgore to Desolace. |
| 09:53.29 | Rowne | I'm not kidding. |
| 09:53.35 | Rowne | There's this secret place above Mulgore. |
| 09:53.45 | Rowne | And it leads to this pencil thin mountain range of f***ed-uppedness. |
| 09:53.47 | MoonWolf | ... above mulgore ? |
| 09:53.51 | Rowne | You have to walk it like a tightrope. |
| 09:53.53 | MatryxWrk | there are secret little mountain camps everywhere |
| 09:53.54 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 09:53.57 | Rowne | I know. |
| 09:54.01 | Rowne | But this one goes somewhere. |
| 09:54.03 | MoonWolf | invisible mountains ? |
| 09:54.06 | MatryxWrk | mainly for you to get a glimpse of when you're on the griffin etc |
| 09:54.09 | Rowne | And you can walk this tightrope mountain all the way to Desolace. |
| 09:54.10 | tekkub | is it tho one you fly over going to Orgy? |
| 09:54.13 | Codayus | I've found some cool places between Duskwood and STV and between the Badlands and Burning Steppes...that's not very cool though. |
| 09:54.17 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 09:54.20 | Rowne | I've been to all those places. |
| 09:54.25 | Rowne | Not on Rider, on hoof. |
| 09:54.28 | tekkub | I see those lil places and wanna go there |
| 09:54.32 | MatryxWrk | Rowne |
| 09:54.43 | Rowne | And it's all going to go away, now. *Sigh.* |
| 09:54.44 | MatryxWrk | that Tirisfal zone looks like a good place for a party |
| 09:54.48 | Rowne | It is. |
| 09:54.49 | MatryxWrk | or a play |
| 09:54.50 | tekkub | *whimper* |
| 09:54.53 | Rowne | ... but they're taking it all away. |
| 09:54.57 | tekkub | damn AV wallwalkers |
| 09:54.57 | Rowne | I honestly don't know why. |
| 09:54.57 | MatryxWrk | no-one around to disrupt it |
| 09:55.06 | tekkub | cheat at PvP, ruin good fun |
| 09:55.15 | Rowne | ... those bastards. |
| 09:55.20 | tekkub | yea, that's why |
| 09:55.21 | Codayus | Sometimes it seems like PvP ruins a lot of stuff... :-/ |
| 09:55.23 | Rowne | I always used it innocuously, always. |
| 09:55.26 | MatryxWrk | tekkub: did you see the link I posted yesterday? |
| 09:55.31 | MatryxWrk | re: PVP cheating |
| 09:55.34 | tekkub | uh... |
| 09:55.36 | Rowne | I want a completely non-PvP server. |
| 09:55.37 | tekkub | no |
| 09:55.38 | Rowne | With hoofing. |
| 09:55.42 | tekkub | linky? |
| 09:55.43 | Codayus | A lot of nifty PvE abilities get nerfed to try and balance PvP... |
| 09:55.55 | tekkub | yea PvP sucks |
| 09:55.55 | MatryxWrk | finding |
| 09:55.57 | Rowne | They're just begging me to go private server, sometimes. |
| 09:56.10 | tekkub | I'd go private with you |
| 09:56.10 | Rowne | Even if only to continue 'sploring. |
| 09:56.16 | tekkub | wait that sounded bad |
| 09:56.20 | Rowne | I noticed. |
| 09:56.24 | tekkub | I still mean it tho ^^ |
| 09:56.40 | Rowne | Maybe they won't catch it for Taurens. |
| 09:56.47 | MatryxWrk | http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/rexx2/WoWScrnShot_102405_012928.jpg |
| 09:56.48 | tekkub | you know what I want... |
| 09:56.49 | Rowne | Because Taurens have always had Godly hoofing abilities. |
| 09:56.53 | Rowne | I've tried the Night-Elves. |
| 09:56.54 | tekkub | a private FFXI server |
| 09:57.01 | Rowne | They're decent but they don't come close. Not anywhere near. |
| 09:57.01 | tekkub | there's SOOO much I didn't see |
| 09:57.09 | Rowne | Likewise, tek. |
| 09:57.11 | tekkub | and I want vids of all the cutscenes |
| 09:57.22 | tekkub | I've read the whole plot, but it ain't the same |
| 09:57.25 | Rowne | I miss the Summons, too. |
| 09:57.31 | Rowne | Gods those summons were -beautiful-. |
| 09:57.33 | Rowne | I mean, really. |
| 09:57.34 | tekkub | I never even got to do Shadowlord |
| 09:57.40 | tekkub | poor Raogrimm /cry |
| 09:57.44 | Rowne | The little ... puppy thing of many colours. |
| 09:57.50 | tekkub | Carby? |
| 09:57.53 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 09:57.57 | Rowne | That I frequently wanted to hug. |
| 09:57.57 | tekkub | Carby's sooo gay |
| 09:58.02 | Rowne | Hahahahaha. |
| 09:58.10 | tekkub | I mean, "keeper of rainbows"? FAG! |
| 09:58.13 | Rowne | I adore Carbuncle. |
| 09:58.15 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 09:58.19 | Rowne | Maybe that's why. |
| 09:58.26 | tekkub | I liked Fenrir myself |
| 09:58.38 | tekkub | but then, I like big doggies |
| 09:58.42 | tekkub | *eg* |
| 09:58.58 | tekkub | I do hope ally race is Worgen |
| 09:59.00 | Rowne | You know what's really funny though? |
| 09:59.09 | MoonWolf | Worgen, that would be, weird. |
| 09:59.09 | tekkub | but I'll be happy with panda too |
| 09:59.10 | Rowne | You know what a carbuncle -is-, right? |
| 09:59.21 | Rowne | I mean, the prettiest critter of them all gets named after ... >.< |
| 09:59.24 | MatryxWrk | tekkub - it won't be worgen |
| 09:59.31 | MatryxWrk | Caydiem has said it has ties to outland |
| 09:59.33 | tekkub | you mean the thing that comes up if you google image it? yes *shudder* |
| 09:59.38 | Rowne | Matryx, why not? |
| 09:59.40 | MoonWolf | I do. colourfull thing. looks like a evee from pokemon crossed when your on lsd. |
| 09:59.49 | Rowne | I strongly believe the Worgen are from Outland. |
| 09:59.50 | tekkub | worgen could be tied to outland |
| 09:59.52 | Rowne | It would explain a hell of a lot. |
| 09:59.58 | tekkub | they do come from "somewhere else" |
| 10:00.05 | MatryxWrk | even though the lore the night elf quest series dictates suggests otherwise? |
| 10:00.09 | MoonWolf | no they don't , some mage made them. |
| 10:00.16 | Rowne | Moon, you're incorrect. |
| 10:00.19 | MatryxWrk | MoonWolf: incorrect actually |
| 10:00.20 | Rowne | The Mage 'summoned' them. |
| 10:00.20 | tekkub | no, Arugal summoned them in |
| 10:00.20 | MatryxWrk | he summoned them |
| 10:00.24 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 10:00.25 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 10:00.26 | MoonWolf | okay. |
| 10:00.35 | MoonWolf | I stand corrected. |
| 10:00.48 | MoonWolf | But what about the transforming people in pyrewood then ? |
| 10:00.49 | Rowne | Yeah, he summoned them from 'another plane'. |
| 10:00.51 | tekkub | if you read the book you get on the quest it talks about their dimention/world/whatever |
| 10:00.53 | MatryxWrk | SNAP |
| 10:00.58 | Rowne | He figured it out. |
| 10:01.01 | tekkub | that's the thing |
| 10:01.05 | Rowne | I mean, if you were a major Mage ... |
| 10:01.11 | Rowne | And you had a Werewolf at your disposal ... |
| 10:01.15 | Rowne | How long would it take you to figure it out? |
| 10:01.17 | tekkub | the rumor is, the people behind whatzits wall got changed too |
| 10:01.27 | Rowne | No they didn't! |
| 10:01.27 | tekkub | but retained consciousness |
| 10:01.32 | Rowne | They got sucked into a temporal vortex. |
| 10:01.36 | Rowne | I can prove it, I have screenshots! |
| 10:01.40 | tekkub | hehe |
| 10:01.47 | MatryxWrk | Rowne: don't forget that the Staff of Elune also summoned them, and the elves were responsible for the infestation of worgen both in north ashenvale and in Duskwood |
| 10:01.48 | Rowne | I swear, it's a pit. |
| 10:01.52 | Rowne | It's a bloody huge pit. |
| 10:01.55 | Rowne | That's what Greymane is. |
| 10:01.59 | Rowne | It's a long, deep, huge pit. |
| 10:02.03 | Rowne | It's like it was gutted out of the Earth. |
| 10:02.03 | tekkub | just sayin that's the rumor floating round, and makes sense considering most us not been there |
| 10:02.13 | Rowne | *Amused.* |
| 10:02.20 | Rowne | I love my unsatiable exploration needs. |
| 10:02.24 | tekkub | heh |
| 10:02.25 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.37 | Rowne | I vote Goblin transporter accident! |
| 10:02.38 | Rowne | ... |
| 10:02.42 | Rowne | Wait, that's where they came from! |
| 10:02.43 | MatryxWrk | ooo |
| 10:02.45 | MatryxWrk | that's a thing |
| 10:02.48 | tekkub | heh, I love the transporter |
| 10:02.53 | MatryxWrk | why, whenver the transports misfire |
| 10:02.56 | tekkub | I need to get my engineering up |
| 10:02.59 | MatryxWrk | don't they just send you *anwehere* in the world |
| 10:03.03 | MatryxWrk | how cool would that be :) |
| 10:03.11 | MatryxWrk | "whoops, I'm far out at sea" |
| 10:03.12 | Rowne | What, even with Z-axis being random? |
| 10:03.18 | MatryxWrk | or "whoops - there's the burning steppes" |
| 10:03.18 | tekkub | no, one ports you ABOVE the pad |
| 10:03.24 | MoonWolf | eeeuh, hello ragnaros, i will be leaving now, BY FIRE BE PURGED |
| 10:03.30 | Rowne | "Oh shiiiiiiiiiiii...iiiiiiiiii...iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...iiiiii... damn, out of breath ...iiiiii..." |
| 10:03.32 | tekkub | the other hits you with a debuff |
| 10:03.40 | MatryxWrk | there's a few misfires you can get |
| 10:03.43 | MatryxWrk | evil twin |
| 10:03.45 | MatryxWrk | set on fire |
| 10:03.46 | tekkub | and sometimes you get a "evil twin" debuff |
| 10:03.50 | Rowne | I love that. |
| 10:03.54 | MatryxWrk | or half a click southwest and a mile up in the air |
| 10:03.57 | Rowne | Evil spockness. |
| 10:04.00 | tekkub | noone knows what evil twin really does :) |
| 10:04.20 | MatryxWrk | well for starters it gives you a tash |
| 10:04.25 | Rowne | I know what it does. |
| 10:04.31 | MatryxWrk | someone said it made you immune to mind control, but I haven't tested |
| 10:04.38 | Rowne | It steals human hair randomly in a time-space glitch and patches it to the teleporter. |
| 10:04.39 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:04.44 | Rowne | This is why so many humans are embarrasingly bald. |
| 10:04.50 | Rowne | "OH NO, not again!" |
| 10:04.51 | tekkub | humans suck |
| 10:04.58 | tekkub | and taru |
| 10:05.07 | Rowne | This is true. |
| 10:05.11 | MoonWolf | there needs to be patternbuffer problem debuff too. |
| 10:05.11 | tekkub | hunmes were okey |
| 10:05.16 | Rowne | Taru mages were bloody obnoxious in that game. |
| 10:05.18 | tekkub | at least the beardyhead one |
| 10:05.33 | tekkub | taru in general were abnoxious |
| 10:05.36 | MoonWolf | Elvaan were the worst looking elven race ever. |
| 10:05.40 | Rowne | "Oh look at me, I am ultimate Power, fra la la, you want me on your party, fra la la.", "DIE!" |
| 10:05.47 | Rowne | True. |
| 10:05.48 | tekkub | you know what I called taru? |
| 10:05.55 | Rowne | But the Elvaan were actually kinda friendly in most cases. |
| 10:05.57 | MoonWolf | lunch ? |
| 10:05.59 | Rowne | The Taru were little bizatches. |
| 10:06.09 | MatryxWrk | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=23445 |
| 10:06.10 | tekkub | "Tarutaru [Anal] G MP+300" |
| 10:06.11 | MatryxWrk | there you are |
| 10:06.13 | MatryxWrk | it does nothing |
| 10:06.17 | MatryxWrk | except make you look different |
| 10:06.29 | Rowne | See? Told you. It steals human hair and grafts it to you. |
| 10:06.41 | tekkub | ie, taru = galka MP buttplugs |
| 10:06.52 | Rowne | "A localized rip in the time-space continuum wants to eat my hair, oh God why?! Light protect me!" |
| 10:07.03 | Rowne | .... |
| 10:07.04 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 10:07.16 | MatryxWrk | not even a god bubble can save you from that |
| 10:07.34 | Rowne | I think it also does it to Gnomes, too. |
| 10:07.42 | Rowne | Have you seen how embarrasingly bald most Gnomes look? |
| 10:07.46 | Rowne | Like their hair was torn out in patches? |
| 10:07.59 | MatryxWrk | I assumed that was inept engineering related |
| 10:08.01 | tekkub | bald knomes look like old perverts |
| 10:08.15 | MatryxWrk | hey - what's this gizmonotron do? "Oh no! not another hair removal device!!!" |
| 10:08.16 | Rowne | Nah, it's the hair-munching rift, man. |
| 10:08.34 | tekkub | maybe they MADE the rift |
| 10:08.40 | Rowne | That wouldn't be so far fetched in the Warcraft Universe. :p |
| 10:08.44 | Rowne | Neither would that. |
| 10:08.56 | tekkub | before knomes learned to use tools they were hairier than Robin Williams... |
| 10:09.00 | MoonWolf | nothing is far fetched in the warcraft universe. |
| 10:09.19 | tekkub | Hrm.... |
| 10:09.19 | Rowne | I only had one Gnome. |
| 10:09.30 | Rowne | The first person I talked to told me "You suck!" because of the name. |
| 10:09.31 | tekkub | maybe worgen are gnome hairballs |
| 10:09.36 | Rowne | His name was Mitchell Jitt. |
| 10:10.03 | MoonWolf | im lvl 38 on a rp-pvp server btw. |
| 10:10.33 | Rowne | Mitch, as in, short for Mitchell. |
| 10:10.38 | Rowne | Combine the forename and surname. |
| 10:10.51 | MoonWolf | I dont get it. |
| 10:10.52 | MatryxWrk | MitchJitt |
| 10:11.02 | tekkub | ./blankstare |
| 10:11.05 | MatryxWrk | ./blink |
| 10:11.08 | Rowne | Say it aloud. |
| 10:11.14 | MatryxWrk | mitch-jit |
| 10:11.20 | MatryxWrk | *shrug* |
| 10:11.21 | Rowne | Midget. :p |
| 10:11.24 | tekkub | Eye yam sofa king whee Todd Ed |
| 10:11.30 | MatryxWrk | it doesn't even sound the same :P |
| 10:11.34 | Rowne | It does. |
| 10:11.38 | Rowne | With my accent it does. |
| 10:11.42 | MatryxWrk | lol :) |
| 10:11.45 | MoonWolf | but we dont have your accent. |
| 10:11.45 | Rowne | And we invented the language, dammit! |
| 10:11.52 | tekkub | oh yea... say Bollocks for me |
| 10:11.53 | Rowne | You should. You all should! |
| 10:11.56 | MatryxWrk | I'm a londoner damnit |
| 10:12.02 | Rowne | You are? |
| 10:12.05 | Cair | if you slur the two together, it does indeed |
| 10:12.06 | MoonWolf | I'm Dutch for gods sake. |
| 10:12.06 | MatryxWrk | try to tell me who invented the language :P |
| 10:12.07 | tekkub | and we fucked it up proper, yo! |
| 10:12.12 | Rowne | What're you doing with a Texan accent?! |
| 10:12.16 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 10:12.19 | Cair | if you enunciate, then it doesn't |
| 10:12.27 | MatryxWrk | precisely |
| 10:12.36 | MatryxWrk | and sadly I was raised in Buckinghamshire |
| 10:12.37 | Rowne | It does. |
| 10:12.41 | Rowne | It just takes a stretch of the imagination. |
| 10:12.43 | MatryxWrk | renowned for it's pronunciation |
| 10:12.44 | MatryxWrk | :/ |
| 10:12.49 | tekkub | <--- Coloradian |
| 10:12.53 | MatryxWrk | everyone thinks I'm posh because of it |
| 10:12.57 | MatryxWrk | just because I talk properly |
| 10:12.58 | Rowne | Besides, I'm just being a brat and teasing you all, anyway. |
| 10:12.58 | MatryxWrk | heh |
| 10:13.09 | Rowne | At least it's better than the other name I had planned. |
| 10:13.12 | Rowne | Gnopen Sarz. |
| 10:13.12 | Cair | not you Rowne! |
| 10:13.13 | MatryxWrk | midge? |
| 10:13.30 | Cair | *shocked* |
| 10:13.31 | MatryxWrk | my gnome was called Wizzlecrank |
| 10:13.39 | Rowne | That's a Goblin name! |
| 10:13.41 | MatryxWrk | and then I was shocked to discover a goblin called wizzlecrank in the barrens |
| 10:13.42 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 10:13.53 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 10:13.56 | MatryxWrk | I had to abandon the character out of shame |
| 10:14.12 | tekkub | I named a gnome Hoofsmear once |
| 10:14.12 | Rowne | I know a Goblin name at seeing it. |
| 10:14.14 | Rowne | Immediately. |
| 10:14.16 | MatryxWrk | ( er - found a bunch of my friends were on a different server anyway ) |
| 10:14.16 | Rowne | They're so obvious. |
| 10:14.17 | tekkub | never played him |
| 10:14.19 | Rowne | The difference is; |
| 10:14.33 | Rowne | Goblins are cranks, shanks and fizzles. Dwarfs are cogs, whee's andsoforth. |
| 10:14.47 | tekkub | dorfs? |
| 10:14.53 | MatryxWrk | and gnomes? |
| 10:14.53 | Rowne | Dorfs are Scottish. |
| 10:14.54 | MoonWolf | So drizt hyperspan , what woudl that be ? |
| 10:15.07 | Rowne | ... Elf. >.< |
| 10:15.07 | Cair | drizt? bloody N/E hunter |
| 10:15.13 | Cair | or rogue |
| 10:15.16 | Rowne | I swear ... |
| 10:15.22 | Rowne | If we get ONE Blood Elf named Drizt ... |
| 10:15.25 | tekkub | for some reason I always get my irish and scottish accents mixed |
| 10:15.25 | Rowne | I am going to go ballistic. |
| 10:15.32 | Rowne | I'm going to petition the Horde to do a mass-ignore. |
| 10:15.42 | tekkub | I want an elf named Leglass |
| 10:15.43 | MatryxWrk | rowne - there are already 20 million night elves called Dri(z+)t |
| 10:15.47 | Cair | it'll happen, the true question is merely how long it takes |
| 10:15.49 | tekkub | and a human named Sephiroth |
| 10:15.53 | MoonWolf | Its the name of my gnome mule damnit. |
| 10:15.56 | Rowne | I know but that's the Alliance, Matryx. |
| 10:16.00 | Rowne | The Horde should know better. :P |
| 10:16.00 | MoonWolf | and its not the DnD drizt |
| 10:16.02 | MatryxWrk | ok rowne |
| 10:16.07 | MoonWolf | simply sounded good. |
| 10:16.13 | Rowne | Augh, Blood Elves ... waugh. |
| 10:16.13 | MatryxWrk | how come there's a Bingle Blastenheimer? |
| 10:16.24 | Rowne | Take it away Blizzard, take it away and give us Pandaren! |
| 10:16.27 | MatryxWrk | surely that's explosives, and thus either dwarvish or goblinish ;) |
| 10:16.29 | tekkub | I've consided using Raogrimm, just casue it'd be a jab at all the Sephiroth's and noone remembers Raogrimm |
| 10:16.57 | Rowne | There's actually Sephiroph-ish armour too, isn't there? |
| 10:17.12 | Rowne | And there's that helmet that looks -just- like Magneto. |
| 10:17.17 | MoonWolf | but yeah, blood elves will mean way more legolassiss |
| 10:17.20 | Rowne | I swear, my first line in Warcraft was ... |
| 10:17.21 | tekkub | dunno, never player FF<X |
| 10:17.31 | Rowne | "The hell? When'd I get to the Marvel Universe?!" |
| 10:17.40 | MatryxWrk | |lego+la+s+| |
| 10:17.42 | tekkub | yea the magneto helm rocks :) |
| 10:17.46 | Rowne | Because my friend there was a Paladin ... with a Magneto Helmet. |
| 10:18.03 | tekkub | I wonder if it blocks MC |
| 10:18.06 | Rowne | Of course, the best Alliance items ever are ... |
| 10:18.14 | Rowne | [Linken's Sword of Masters] and [Linken's Boomerang]. |
| 10:18.15 | Rowne | By far. |
| 10:18.21 | MatryxWrk | ^_^ |
| 10:18.26 | MoonWolf | mabe blizzerd will implement a name filter that looks for letter combinations that match legolas in one way or another |
| 10:18.26 | tekkub | [The One Ring] |
| 10:18.35 | Rowne | That's a real item? |
| 10:18.38 | MatryxWrk | yep |
| 10:18.40 | MatryxWrk | you can fish it |
| 10:18.42 | tekkub | [Large Bear Bone] + [Gellatenous Goo] |
| 10:18.44 | MatryxWrk | I have one in the bank |
| 10:18.51 | MatryxWrk | "Not quite as good as the two ring" |
| 10:18.55 | MatryxWrk | it does +1 to all stats |
| 10:18.58 | Rowne | You know, I only ever deviated from Taurens -once- to make a Priest. |
| 10:19.03 | Rowne | I only had one reason for making a Priest. |
| 10:19.06 | MoonWolf | troll ? |
| 10:19.08 | Rowne | Mind-control + Northwatch. |
| 10:19.19 | Cair | that's one of the things that always drives me completely batty ... the stupid names ... hello, try a little originality folks, geez |
| 10:19.19 | Rowne | "That's it Paladin, go and walk down into the water, yeeees ..." |
| 10:19.23 | MatryxWrk | Rowne - Mind Control Cap ;) |
| 10:19.25 | *** join/##ace Randor (n=Randor@pd95b1114.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:19.31 | Rowne | That works too. |
| 10:19.36 | Rowne | I didn't know about that at the time, however. |
| 10:19.42 | Rowne | All my other characters have been Taurens though. |
| 10:19.46 | MatryxWrk | also - it's not a first-person mind control |
| 10:19.47 | Rowne | That's like, 20+ characters. |
| 10:19.49 | MatryxWrk | it turns them into a pet |
| 10:19.52 | Rowne | I know the Tauren starting missions inside out. >.< |
| 10:20.05 | MoonWolf | mulgore is so much walking. |
| 10:20.10 | tekkub | you know, I hate that tauren get like a whole 4 classes |
| 10:20.12 | Rowne | But it's so beautiful. |
| 10:20.17 | Rowne | I know tekkub. |
| 10:20.17 | tekkub | that it is |
| 10:20.19 | Rowne | That annoys me too. |
| 10:20.25 | Rowne | Why the hell couldn't Tauren pick up Priestness? |
| 10:20.29 | tekkub | but meh, I don't like rogue |
| 10:20.31 | MoonWolf | Ill take tirisfall as best starting zone. |
| 10:20.38 | tekkub | I didn't like mage as much as BLM |
| 10:20.42 | MoonWolf | because they have shamans and druids. |
| 10:20.49 | Rowne | Druids are wonderful. |
| 10:20.51 | tekkub | BLM required picking the right spells, mage don't |
| 10:20.54 | Rowne | But they NEED to fix the models. |
| 10:20.59 | Rowne | Oh Gods the Bear and Cat models are awful. |
| 10:21.01 | tekkub | I love druids |
| 10:21.03 | Rowne | Really, -really- awful. |
| 10:21.06 | Rowne | But I love my Druid, yes. |
| 10:21.09 | tekkub | as that forum siggie said... |
| 10:21.10 | Rowne | But I hate the models. >.< |
| 10:21.14 | MatryxWrk | my favourite part of the game is the flightpath between Astranaar and Auberdine when it's about 6-7pm |
| 10:21.14 | Rowne | Have you ever sat down as a Bear? |
| 10:21.16 | MoonWolf | bear is doable, cat needs to be redone |
| 10:21.23 | MatryxWrk | the moonlight reflects of the ground just wonderfully :) |
| 10:21.23 | Rowne | "I have an itchy arse, declare it to the World! *Drag.*" |
| 10:21.23 | tekkub | Tauren Druids == Furries YIFF YIFF YIFF! |
| 10:21.35 | tekkub | yes I have rowne |
| 10:21.37 | Rowne | I swear, Bear sitting is itchy arse, through and through. |
| 10:22.01 | tekkub | and I made it with some hunter's pet bear once just cause he was AFK |
| 10:22.10 | Rowne | ... |
| 10:22.12 | Rowne | AUGH. |
| 10:22.12 | MatryxWrk | ... |
| 10:22.15 | Rowne | Bad memory. |
| 10:22.16 | tekkub | lol |
| 10:22.20 | Rowne | Okay, never do this: |
| 10:22.22 | tekkub | memory? |
| 10:22.26 | Rowne | Bear sitting. Behind. Ghost-Wolf dancing. |
| 10:22.28 | Rowne | NEVER do it. |
| 10:22.28 | tekkub | oh noes |
| 10:22.37 | tekkub | oh I like that |
| 10:22.51 | tekkub | didn't get stuck did you? |
| 10:22.53 | Rowne | A friend sat down in front of me just as I started dancing. |
| 10:22.57 | Rowne | And we were like ... "THE HORROR!". |
| 10:23.15 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 10:23.20 | Rowne | "Okay, let's stop here.", *Sit.*, *Dance.*, "I'M BLIND!" |
| 10:23.40 | tekkub | I would expect you of all people to enjoy that |
| 10:23.43 | Rowne | If you do it, it's your own bloody look out. I'm telling you. |
| 10:23.52 | Rowne | Actually, nope. |
| 10:24.01 | tekkub | :P |
| 10:24.07 | MoonWolf | I wish i could magically transform my |
| 10:24.10 | Rowne | I'm a teetotaller and as celebate as it gets. |
| 10:24.11 | MoonWolf | NE into a troll |
| 10:24.21 | Rowne | Which makes me one damned unique furry. :P |
| 10:24.38 | tekkub | a teetowhawho? |
| 10:24.50 | Rowne | It means I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, whatever the hell else. |
| 10:24.54 | Cair | doesn't drink alcohol |
| 10:24.56 | tekkub | oh |
| 10:25.08 | tekkub | I drink, but it's rare, and never to get drunk |
| 10:25.22 | MatryxWrk | I'm a vege-straight edger |
| 10:25.29 | tekkub | I wal raised by a nutty hermit artist that brewed his own wine |
| 10:25.42 | tekkub | I drink for the drink, not for the drunkery |
| 10:25.47 | Rowne | I've had bad luck with Warcraft and inuendous situations though. >.< |
| 10:25.59 | Rowne | I mean, there was this time a friend and I ate deviate fish and we both decided to dance on the mailbox. |
| 10:26.04 | Rowne | Except we were facing opposite directions. |
| 10:26.09 | Rowne | And male human dancing ... |
| 10:26.13 | Rowne | The horror. |
| 10:26.15 | MoonWolf | and you did the human crotch thing |
| 10:26.16 | tekkub | *shudder* |
| 10:26.33 | tekkub | tauren dancing is the best |
| 10:26.37 | MatryxWrk | Rowne - you're right - it's quite rare to find a teetotal celibate furry, but that's no bad thing |
| 10:26.40 | Rowne | Then we turned and synchronized so we'd no longer do that. >.< |
| 10:26.45 | tekkub | I got a full line of dancer going in orgy once |
| 10:26.56 | MoonWolf | orgy ? |
| 10:26.56 | MatryxWrk | then again - I'm a goth, so I know all about being the only non-drinker in the room ;) |
| 10:26.57 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 10:26.58 | tekkub | tauren-only |
| 10:27.14 | Rowne | I'd have them all running Ascend, too. |
| 10:27.17 | MoonWolf | A taurne only lined up orgy....... |
| 10:27.21 | MatryxWrk | my big plan |
| 10:27.22 | tekkub | I just started dancing between the AH and bank, and soon there was a line of us |
| 10:27.22 | Rowne | "Shimmyshimmy-cocopop-shimmyshimmy-RAH!" |
| 10:27.27 | MatryxWrk | is to get all of my guild together |
| 10:27.29 | MatryxWrk | on a chain /follow |
| 10:27.31 | MatryxWrk | and conga |
| 10:27.37 | Rowne | Oh, my Guild did that recently. |
| 10:27.40 | MatryxWrk | lead them off the 1000needles |
| 10:27.40 | Rowne | I went on AutoTravel. |
| 10:27.42 | Rowne | Around Kalimdor. |
| 10:27.46 | Rowne | With them all on follow. |
| 10:27.51 | Rowne | And we had it setup to do /train randomly. |
| 10:27.52 | tekkub | heh |
| 10:27.54 | MatryxWrk | except I have a parachute ;) |
| 10:27.55 | MoonWolf | doing a /train with like a line of 20 people is funtoo. |
| 10:28.11 | Rowne | We did, I admit, almost walk off the Great Lift. |
| 10:28.15 | Rowne | Because I wasn't paying attention. |
| 10:28.35 | MatryxWrk | lemmings ftw! |
| 10:28.38 | tekkub | I swear that's the first thing people do when they hit TB |
| 10:28.47 | Rowne | The best walk I've ever been in though was the like 30+ person peace walk. |
| 10:28.56 | Rowne | Where we walked all over Azeroth. |
| 10:28.57 | Rowne | Flagged. |
| 10:28.59 | tekkub | my hubby went once... got off the lift and dived |
| 10:29.00 | Rowne | Without attacking anything. |
| 10:29.03 | Rowne | That was SUCH a blast. |
| 10:29.19 | MatryxWrk | someone in my old guild is on an in-game pub-crawl quest |
| 10:29.21 | Rowne | I -used- to be able to jump the Great Lift and live. |
| 10:29.23 | tekkub | my gulld on PvP used to be two guilds |
| 10:29.26 | Rowne | With the -old- Sentry totem. :p |
| 10:29.37 | tekkub | they had events in the arena in STV |
| 10:29.46 | MoonWolf | jump and blink slightly before the ground |
| 10:29.54 | MatryxWrk | moonwolf - parachute cloak :) |
| 10:29.59 | tekkub | and once all hell broke loose and the horde guild wiped the ally guild |
| 10:30.01 | Rowne | Oh! |
| 10:30.02 | MoonWolf | that willw work too |
| 10:30.07 | Rowne | Hands up, who's been -inside- Dalaran? |
| 10:30.10 | tekkub | so the next day we all walked to IF, nude |
| 10:30.22 | MatryxWrk | its boring |
| 10:30.24 | Rowne | Damn you. ;p |
| 10:30.25 | tekkub | I've benn nowhere |
| 10:30.25 | Rowne | It's empty. |
| 10:30.34 | MoonWolf | empty purple place ? |
| 10:30.36 | tekkub | okey, I did hit up Hyjal in the viewer |
| 10:30.37 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 10:30.43 | Rowne | Who's been inside Kodo Rock? |
| 10:30.49 | tekkub | and Caverns of time |
| 10:30.50 | Rowne | I SO messed with level ones, doing that. |
| 10:30.51 | MatryxWrk | who's been inside the time-stream |
| 10:30.58 | Rowne | "I am the magical pillar of luck, feed me money and watch me grow." |
| 10:31.00 | Rowne | Damn you! ;p |
| 10:31.04 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 10:31.20 | Rowne | Who's blinked through the walls of Lordaeron?! |
| 10:31.20 | tekkub | heh, that sounds bad Rowne |
| 10:31.22 | MatryxWrk | you used to be able to use the unstuck command to jump through walls |
| 10:31.23 | MatryxWrk | ;) |
| 10:31.33 | Rowne | There is one spot where you can do it. |
| 10:31.40 | tekkub | I loved the old unstuck |
| 10:31.43 | MatryxWrk | can't say I've tried :) |
| 10:31.46 | tekkub | randow death FTW! |
| 10:31.52 | Rowne | Go to the left side of Lordaeron. |
| 10:31.57 | Rowne | Where the edge of the wall meets the mountain. |
| 10:31.58 | MatryxWrk | "hey - I'm stuck - lets use the unstuck command... oh wait - now I'm *more* stuck" |
| 10:32.02 | Rowne | Get yourself jammed in there good. |
| 10:32.04 | Rowne | Then blink. |
| 10:32.04 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 10:32.21 | Rowne | It's a 'weak point'. |
| 10:32.25 | Rowne | The wall doesn't really exist there. |
| 10:32.30 | Rowne | It's just visual from that point on. |
| 10:32.32 | tekkub | weak point... |
| 10:32.44 | Rowne | There's no hard frame barrier there. |
| 10:32.48 | Rowne | So you can just blink in there. |
| 10:32.49 | tekkub | that sounds like subspace theary |
| 10:33.01 | Rowne | Probably. |
| 10:33.01 | Cair | Okay, time for me to acknowledge my ignorance ... what is the definite of the word "furry" when used in this context, pretty please? "Rowne: Which makes me one damned unique furry. :P" |
| 10:33.02 | Rowne | Who knows? |
| 10:33.05 | MoonWolf | blink is actually mages abusing folds in space and time. |
| 10:33.13 | tekkub | "this is a weak point in the space time continuim, look closely" *shove* |
| 10:33.24 | Rowne | Cair doesn't know of furries. |
| 10:33.26 | Rowne | Wow. |
| 10:33.27 | tekkub | furry... |
| 10:33.28 | Rowne | I'm not telling her. |
| 10:33.28 | MatryxWrk | hmm |
| 10:33.30 | Rowne | You tell her. |
| 10:33.32 | MatryxWrk | how to describe |
| 10:33.34 | tekkub | how to splain |
| 10:33.34 | MoonWolf | nobody tell her. |
| 10:33.38 | Cair | well, I know *one* definition |
| 10:33.40 | Rowne | I vote MoonWolf! |
| 10:33.48 | Rowne | The MTV one, prolly. |
| 10:33.51 | tekkub | I like Tauren... like REALLY like |
| 10:33.51 | MoonWolf | im from 4chan. know what your asking. |
| 10:33.52 | Rowne | Yay for lying through teeth. |
| 10:33.54 | tekkub | I'm a furry |
| 10:33.54 | MatryxWrk | let me find a link to a wikipedia or something |
| 10:34.05 | Rowne | Never have guessed, tek. |
| 10:34.05 | MatryxWrk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry |
| 10:34.11 | Rowne | ... wow. |
| 10:34.12 | Rowne | That works. |
| 10:34.16 | Rowne | Wikipedia, I love thee. |
| 10:34.16 | tekkub | not you you know rowne :P |
| 10:34.22 | MoonWolf | furries are people who dress up like animals and fuck with dressed up people |
| 10:34.27 | MoonWolf | in short |
| 10:34.32 | tekkub | lol |
| 10:34.34 | Rowne | ... |
| 10:34.36 | Rowne | So not true. |
| 10:34.38 | tekkub | way off |
| 10:34.47 | MatryxWrk | not quite true |
| 10:34.52 | MatryxWrk | at least, in my experience |
| 10:34.53 | Rowne | So wholly not true. |
| 10:35.00 | MoonWolf | 4chan tainted my mind |
| 10:35.02 | tekkub | I will admit, I wilh I had more hair... and other perticulars |
| 10:35.02 | Rowne | It's down to the individual. |
| 10:35.05 | Rowne | That's overgeneralizing. |
| 10:35.07 | MatryxWrk | I mean, you get the odd strange fetishist who claims he's a furry |
| 10:35.11 | MatryxWrk | but in general that's wrong |
| 10:35.13 | tekkub | and I am attracted to hair guys.. aka Bears |
| 10:35.32 | Rowne | Oh, I have one particular piece of deviancy but that's NEVER getting out into the open. |
| 10:35.40 | Rowne | I think Cair has more deviances than I do, prolly. |
| 10:35.49 | MatryxWrk | with the exception of proper hair on top of your head ;) |
| 10:35.51 | Cair | that was the definition I knew of, MoonWolf |
| 10:36.02 | Rowne | Which is so not true. I'm a clean person! |
| 10:36.07 | Rowne | Nope. |
| 10:36.13 | Rowne | It's ... dammit, stop trying to make me reveal things! |
| 10:36.17 | Cair | Rowne: you calling me a deviant?! |
| 10:36.26 | Rowne | No, Cair. That was exactly my point. |
| 10:36.33 | tekkub | oh? you have a THor? I didn't think you were that kind |
| 10:36.41 | Rowne | I have a wut? |
| 10:36.45 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 10:37.03 | Rowne | ... I'm sorry, but that's really, really funny. |
| 10:37.28 | tekkub | you know it too? |
| 10:37.28 | Rowne | It reminds me of a hidden line I had in one of my AddOns once. |
| 10:37.31 | Rowne | For human Paladins. |
| 10:37.35 | tekkub | YES! |
| 10:37.40 | Rowne | "I mount my ride and ride my mount daily, you have problem?!" |
| 10:37.41 | tekkub | what was it |
| 10:37.54 | tekkub | oh I was thinking of another... |
| 10:38.01 | Rowne | There were a few. |
| 10:38.02 | Rowne | Poor Paladins. |
| 10:38.08 | MatryxWrk | lol |
| 10:38.18 | Rowne | Except mine was like, a real Easter Egg. |
| 10:38.19 | MatryxWrk | my original adlibber had code in to adlib for the pallys whether or not they wanted |
| 10:38.20 | Rowne | It wasn't forced. |
| 10:38.20 | MoonWolf | Paladins deserve to die. |
| 10:38.28 | tekkub | "Don't accept a 'ride' on a paladin's 'horse' unless both words are expressly defined" or something |
| 10:38.29 | Rowne | It was under a slash-command labelled; "DO NOT USE THIS!" |
| 10:38.46 | MatryxWrk | "By the power of Shield, Consecrate and Heart.... I AM CAPTAIN PALLY!!" #Captain Pally, he's our hero... even though his DPS is zero# |
| 10:38.52 | Rowne | I was told that one of my friends actually saw a Paladin use it, too. |
| 10:38.54 | Rowne | Poor sod. |
| 10:39.02 | tekkub | hehe |
| 10:39.03 | MatryxWrk | just in case my brother decided to roll a pally ;) |
| 10:39.19 | MatryxWrk | *Shrug* each to their own I say |
| 10:39.31 | Rowne | Still though, I'm unique. |
| 10:39.58 | Rowne | I'm in it because I have a Samoyed and my Samoyed is of a better temperament than most people. My Samoyed is beautiful. Humans are ... um, personal opinion: Damned Ugly. |
| 10:40.07 | Rowne | So I'm all with the furry avatarness. |
| 10:40.22 | Rowne | And the canine mindset of; "Do everything because it's fun." |
| 10:40.26 | tekkub | I need a bear avatar |
| 10:40.27 | MoonWolf | Everbody is unique |
| 10:40.35 | MatryxWrk | changing subjects somewhat I have only 785 more games of Warsong Gulch before I reach Exalted. |
| 10:40.36 | tekkub | but alas I have no artistic talent |
| 10:40.53 | MatryxWrk | with this character : http://www.warcraftrealms.com/sig/12847879.jpg |
| 10:41.01 | Rowne | I don't either, tekkub. |
| 10:41.07 | Rowne | I just have lots of artist friends. *Hides.* |
| 10:41.10 | tekkub | *whimper* |
| 10:41.11 | Rowne | They like me because I never ask for art. |
| 10:41.16 | Rowne | Then they give it to me randomly. |
| 10:41.24 | Rowne | I knew, for example, Kam. Lady Kam. The. |
| 10:41.27 | tekkub | I had a guy offer me once on FurAffinity |
| 10:41.35 | tekkub | then it went IMPLODE and that was it |
| 10:41.55 | tekkub | Boz was his name I think |
| 10:41.56 | Rowne | She wasn't as known as she deserved to be, though. Which was a damn shame. She was too shy. |
| 10:42.11 | Rowne | Silly girl, she was. Damn fine artist. And a silly, shy girl. |
| 10:42.16 | tekkub | :P |
| 10:42.29 | Rowne | Also, another thing I find funny ... |
| 10:42.37 | Rowne | Which a friend of mine ribbed me over and jokingly complained about ... |
| 10:42.45 | Rowne | "Why the hell does everyone draw you as the prettyboy?!" |
| 10:42.48 | MatryxWrk | generally they're more honest. |
| 10:42.58 | tekkub | oro? |
| 10:43.01 | Rowne | Apparently, I come over as very faggy. |
| 10:43.06 | tekkub | heh |
| 10:43.13 | tekkub | it's the RP speak |
| 10:43.16 | Rowne | I had not realized this but it brings me much amusement. |
| 10:43.17 | Rowne | It is? |
| 10:43.35 | tekkub | yea, people think RPers are big ol Mos |
| 10:43.45 | MoonWolf | You dont act faggy. but you sound it. |
| 10:43.52 | tekkub | see, sound it |
| 10:43.54 | MatryxWrk | that's only because he writes properly |
| 10:44.01 | MatryxWrk | which is quite a rarity |
| 10:44.06 | tekkub | it's beyond writing properly |
| 10:44.17 | MatryxWrk | *shrug* and using proper british words then |
| 10:44.25 | MoonWolf | no, i mean his VOICE. |
| 10:44.28 | MatryxWrk | oh |
| 10:44.28 | Rowne | Aha! |
| 10:44.32 | MatryxWrk | I can't comment on that |
| 10:44.37 | tekkub | RP speak always comes across much more artful |
| 10:44.42 | Rowne | I knew I did. |
| 10:44.44 | Rowne | Somewhere ... |
| 10:44.49 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Kam/ |
| 10:44.57 | Rowne | Nuffin' dirty. |
| 10:44.59 | Rowne | I don't do dirty. |
| 10:45.02 | MatryxWrk | ok, since we've been on the subject of furries - what's that link :P |
| 10:45.13 | tekkub | bah that's no fun! |
| 10:45.22 | tekkub | I'm in it for the porn *giggle* |
| 10:45.33 | MatryxWrk | not that I expect anything untoward, but office space etc... |
| 10:45.48 | Rowne | It'll make you look Damned Weird, so don't. |
| 10:45.53 | MatryxWrk | haha ok |
| 10:45.54 | tekkub | nah, I've been furry long before I even knew I liked guys so it's beyond sexual |
| 10:46.01 | Randor | g'day everybody |
| 10:46.02 | Rowne | Furry is mostly Damned Weird to the wageslave drone. |
| 10:46.04 | Rowne | That's why ... |
| 10:46.07 | Rowne | Well, MTV. |
| 10:46.15 | Randor | short question: did anybody test ace on 1.9? |
| 10:46.21 | MatryxWrk | Rowne: I call them "ANTS" |
| 10:46.23 | Rowne | Not I, I'm afraid. |
| 10:46.26 | tekkub | I've been on 1.9 |
| 10:46.28 | MatryxWrk | "Apathetic Non-Technical Staff" |
| 10:46.29 | tekkub | with Ace on |
| 10:46.37 | tekkub | it didn't go OMGCRASH! |
| 10:46.40 | Randor | how many addons crashed? |
| 10:46.46 | MoonWolf | since we are talking about deviances. I'll admit i have a thing for lolicon. |
| 10:46.47 | Randor | hm.. |
| 10:46.51 | tekkub | myBindings, that was it |
| 10:46.53 | Rowne | myBindings -- but it was Blizzard's fault! |
| 10:47.04 | Randor | rowne, it is always blizzard's fault |
| 10:47.06 | Randor | ;) |
| 10:47.11 | tekkub | because of the whole calling SaveBinds with no arg make WoW go boom |
| 10:47.22 | Rowne | Augh, and cascading scales? ARGH. |
| 10:47.28 | Rowne | Someone please tell me that's horribly illogical. |
| 10:47.29 | MoonWolf | what is hard about input validations blizz |
| 10:47.31 | Randor | i am trying to "convince" a friend of mine to give ace a try.. |
| 10:47.31 | Rowne | For the sake of my sanity. |
| 10:47.37 | MatryxWrk | cascading scales? |
| 10:47.39 | tekkub | yes and no rowne |
| 10:47.39 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 10:47.41 | Rowne | Yeah, basically ... |
| 10:47.42 | Cair | okay, time to go try again to get some sleep, only need to be up in 2 hrs .. |
| 10:47.43 | Rowne | If you do ... |
| 10:47.43 | Randor | the argument "ace is 1.9 ready" would be nice ;) |
| 10:47.44 | MatryxWrk | like 0.9 and 1 = 1.9? |
| 10:47.47 | Rowne | Yeah. |
| 10:47.49 | MatryxWrk | O_O |
| 10:47.53 | tekkub | I think scales should be ADJUSTED cascading, yes |
| 10:47.53 | MatryxWrk | that's the most stupid thing ever |
| 10:47.59 | MatryxWrk | it should be multiplicative |
| 10:48.00 | tekkub | but not made relative to the parent |
| 10:48.01 | MatryxWrk | not additive |
| 10:48.05 | Rowne | Exactly. |
| 10:48.15 | Rowne | But it just plusses from the patch notes. |
| 10:48.21 | MatryxWrk | oh dear oh dear |
| 10:48.21 | tekkub | I.E. child becomes 0.9 scale also |
| 10:48.23 | Rowne | How the hell do you find your original scale? |
| 10:48.32 | tekkub | not child is 1.0 but shown 0.9 |
| 10:48.36 | Rowne | "I just scaled up x points randomly. Uh ..." |
| 10:49.00 | tekkub | iterate up thru tha parents? |
| 10:49.05 | MatryxWrk | so if I wrote a mod to apply 2 scale to everything, and somone else had done a 0.5 scale mod |
| 10:49.10 | MatryxWrk | suddenly it'd be 2.5 |
| 10:49.11 | MatryxWrk | haha |
| 10:49.12 | tekkub | do fancy math |
| 10:49.14 | Randor | hm.. tekkub, do you use xraid? |
| 10:49.34 | Rowne | I don't mean to rat on Blizzard, really I don't. |
| 10:49.36 | tekkub | I'm not high enough to raid, so no |
| 10:49.40 | MatryxWrk | brb - loo |
| 10:49.41 | Rowne | But ... cascading scaling just out of the blue? |
| 10:49.43 | tekkub | but when I get there, yes :) |
| 10:49.50 | MoonWolf | what happens if you try to scale UIParent ? |
| 10:49.51 | Rowne | Without even discussing it with the dev community on how they should implement it? |
| 10:49.57 | Rowne | I don't want to know Moon. |
| 10:50.00 | Rowne | I just don't want to know. |
| 10:50.02 | Randor | rowne, why should they? |
| 10:50.10 | tekkub | wait, blizz asks up how to do stuff? |
| 10:50.16 | Rowne | Because City of Heroes devs did and I'm used to them. ;p |
| 10:50.20 | tekkub | I though we FIXED it then the implemented it |
| 10:50.21 | Randor | they know that the dev community will work up everything |
| 10:50.31 | tekkub | like the raid panel, ani questminion |
| 10:50.34 | Rowne | I already have my contingency plan ... |
| 10:50.40 | Rowne | Visor will have a UIParent fake. |
| 10:50.51 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:50.53 | Rowne | Before Visor does -anything- to a frame, it'll check whether that frame's parent is UIParent. |
| 10:50.57 | tekkub | UIGuardian? |
| 10:50.59 | Rowne | If it is, it'll bind it to Visor's UIParent instead. |
| 10:51.03 | Rowne | Basically, yes. |
| 10:51.04 | tekkub | UIAdoptedParent? |
| 10:51.08 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 10:51.12 | Rowne | I'm so going to use that. |
| 10:51.18 | tekkub | UILivesWithAunt |
| 10:51.18 | Randor | *g |
| 10:51.52 | Rowne | I like UIAdoptedParent, personally. |
| 10:51.54 | Rowne | That's the one for me. |
| 10:51.58 | tekkub | yea me too |
| 10:52.00 | Rowne | But yeah, it'll reparent frames to that. |
| 10:52.09 | Rowne | Then the scaling will work normally again. |
| 10:52.09 | tekkub | UICHildoftheState |
| 10:52.13 | Rowne | ... |
| 10:52.24 | Rowne | UIIHaveNoSon |
| 10:52.37 | Rowne | Sorry, Simpsons flashback. |
| 10:52.47 | tekkub | hrm... inherits="GayFrame" |
| 10:53.43 | tekkub | okey enought BT.. time to find new music to loop for a week |
| 10:54.01 | MatryxWrk | ok - changing the topic somewhat - have any of you seen the PlayerQuest mod? |
| 10:54.05 | MatryxWrk | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2654 |
| 10:54.06 | tekkub | Ambient Nights ACTIVATE! |
| 10:54.20 | tekkub | no... *looks* |
| 10:54.36 | MatryxWrk | it's a lovely theory, but the implimentation as it stands is buggy and flawed |
| 10:54.37 | Rowne | ... |
| 10:54.45 | tekkub | oh, yea I have, damn RPing hippies! |
| 10:54.45 | Rowne | You know what that resurfaces my urge to do? |
| 10:54.48 | Rowne | Shrubbery Quest. |
| 10:54.52 | MatryxWrk | O_o |
| 10:54.54 | Rowne | "You must find ... a shrubbery!" |
| 10:54.59 | MatryxWrk | ala monty python? |
| 10:54.59 | MatryxWrk | lol |
| 10:55.06 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 10:55.14 | tekkub | I could see good use for this.... |
| 10:55.17 | Rowne | And you can turn in any item with 'ni' in it to pass the quest. |
| 10:55.42 | MatryxWrk | but anyway, my point was that this could be better implimented with a /tell system rather than a group channel |
| 10:55.53 | tekkub | *Tekkub's Quest of Great Fame* Bring me: 20 Thorium Bars, 40 Rugged Leather, 4 Rightous Orbs.. |
| 10:56.01 | MatryxWrk | however, you'd have to pre-know they're a playerquester |
| 10:56.03 | MatryxWrk | hmm |
| 10:56.22 | MatryxWrk | currently I see it spamming the channel with all sorts of rubbish about monsters that get targetted |
| 10:56.32 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:56.50 | MatryxWrk | and the whole setup is bugged re: setting up and accepting quests |
| 10:56.56 | MatryxWrk | but it does *sort of* work in places |
| 10:57.01 | tekkub | can't you pull a chatlist? |
| 10:57.22 | tekkub | or have a timed beacon message from players with quests |
| 10:57.23 | MatryxWrk | I want blizzard to impliment a "ismodloaded" function which takes a player as an argument |
| 10:57.51 | tekkub | hrm.... |
| 10:57.51 | MatryxWrk | could do - but iirc custom channels still have playerlimits or the people in teh channel crash out with a #132 error |
| 10:58.05 | MatryxWrk | but IsModLoaded("target",modname) would be kickass |
| 10:58.08 | tekkub | agh that sucks |
| 10:58.34 | Rowne | You know what would also be awesome? |
| 10:58.35 | tekkub | what about some random junk item equipped as a sort of "hankie code" |
| 10:58.42 | Rowne | SendInfo("target", ModName) |
| 10:58.49 | Rowne | You'd need a specially named function to receive it, of course. |
| 10:58.56 | Rowne | Er, ModName, info), rather. |
| 10:58.58 | MatryxWrk | and if they have the mod installed it calls a specific function |
| 10:58.59 | MatryxWrk | hmm |
| 10:59.00 | tekkub | oooohhh |
| 10:59.02 | Randor | MatryxWrk, do you want this for all mods, or just for some? |
| 10:59.13 | tekkub | SendData(target, modname, data) |
| 10:59.22 | MatryxWrk | tekkub: that'd be perfect |
| 10:59.30 | tekkub | just pass tables |
| 10:59.33 | Randor | (11:58:52) MatryxWrk: and if they have the mod installed it calls a specific function <= i guess this would violate the "non-automation" rules.. |
| 10:59.50 | MatryxWrk | Randor: well - it depends on what it did |
| 10:59.52 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:59.55 | MatryxWrk | chat responders are finbe |
| 10:59.56 | Randor | buffbot :) |
| 10:59.58 | MatryxWrk | for example |
| 11:00.03 | MatryxWrk | buffbot wouldn't work |
| 11:00.09 | MatryxWrk | you'd have to hook it to keyminder |
| 11:00.13 | tekkub | well you can't spellcast move or use items without input... |
| 11:00.23 | tekkub | are they okey with other automation? |
| 11:00.27 | Randor | who says there is no input? :) |
| 11:00.42 | tekkub | but Thene I can see someone with a cast-queue and a keymasher.. |
| 11:00.45 | Rowne | n52, natch. |
| 11:00.50 | tekkub | yea... |
| 11:00.54 | Randor | do you know these things.. they look like a bird.. (with some imagination at least..) |
| 11:00.55 | tekkub | blast! |
| 11:01.20 | Rowne | See, they say that the launcher tells you what's undesirable software, right? |
| 11:01.29 | Randor | fixed to the ground, a spring, a long neck, a head that taps a key repeatedly.. |
| 11:01.29 | Rowne | I loaded up that launcher with /all/ my n52 software loaded. |
| 11:01.35 | tekkub | heh, I saw the launcher once |
| 11:01.36 | Rowne | It didn't say a damn word, not a peep. :p |
| 11:01.43 | Rowne | So the n52 is apparently legal. |
| 11:01.46 | tekkub | it loaded after the patch |
| 11:01.49 | Rowne | They might not like it but ... |
| 11:02.06 | tekkub | after that, I launced with my usual QuickLanuch shortcut |
| 11:02.11 | tekkub | same ol WoW.exe |
| 11:02.15 | Rowne | Heh. |
| 11:02.29 | Rowne | I always use f:\games\wow\wow.exe from my shell. |
| 11:02.32 | Rowne | Every time. |
| 11:02.50 | MatryxWrk | do we have an aced alternative? |
| 11:02.51 | Rowne | We wish. :p |
| 11:02.58 | MatryxWrk | fair enough |
| 11:02.58 | tekkub | I loved Gatherer, but removed it in my quest to streamline my UI |
| 11:03.09 | tekkub | it made gathering a game... |
| 11:03.14 | MatryxWrk | thing is I know where the spawns are now I've done my runs so often :) |
| 11:03.21 | tekkub | if I didn't have a marker I _HAD_ to go get it |
| 11:03.29 | MatryxWrk | tekkub: exactly |
| 11:03.33 | Rowne | We do have something that's almost as good ... |
| 11:03.34 | MatryxWrk | then you found out it was a dead node |
| 11:03.35 | Rowne | But different. |
| 11:03.37 | tekkub | even if that blasted Son of Arugal was in the way |
| 11:03.53 | Rowne | The completely hawt Son of Arugal whom we must never hate. |
| 11:03.56 | Rowne | But I digress. |
| 11:04.03 | tekkub | heh |
| 11:04.05 | Rowne | Matryx, you could use Tain's resource-dinger-thinger. |
| 11:04.09 | MatryxWrk | so many times he loved me too hard ;) |
| 11:04.16 | MatryxWrk | he just wanted a hug! |
| 11:04.25 | MatryxWrk | resource-dinger-thinger? |
| 11:04.26 | tekkub | instead you got a **** in your ** |
| 11:04.54 | tekkub | god... SoA prompted a discussion in my guild one night... |
| 11:04.59 | tekkub | Rowne should know... |
| 11:05.14 | tekkub | Werewolves: human anatomy or lupine? |
| 11:05.15 | MatryxWrk | oh - do you mean his trackalert 0.2? |
| 11:05.47 | Rowne | ... o.O |
| 11:05.57 | tekkub | what's your vote rowne? |
| 11:06.04 | MatryxWrk | which form are they in? |
| 11:06.15 | tekkub | in shifted form |
| 11:06.24 | MatryxWrk | in base form are they a man or a wolf? |
| 11:06.28 | Rowne | Well, the lower regions of a canine's crotch are designed to hold their crown jewels vertically. It's more about what type of crotch they have. Since a Worgen has a saggy crotch, I'd say human. |
| 11:06.37 | tekkub | base is man |
| 11:06.40 | MatryxWrk | then human |
| 11:06.50 | MatryxWrk | wolfweres are decided more wolflike and have more wolf based anatomy |
| 11:06.56 | MatryxWrk | werewolves are more 'human' |
| 11:07.20 | tekkub | hrm... interesting take on it :) |
| 11:07.27 | MoonWolf | I wondereed something when i was away. Could you set UIparent to be child of something else ? |
| 11:07.30 | tekkub | I'm more into Werebears myself ^^ |
| 11:07.55 | tekkub | set it to be it's own child and watch the hilarity enlue |
| 11:08.10 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 11:08.11 | MatryxWrk | Rowne: the only thing I can see that you might have meant is his trackalert thing which moves the minimap |
| 11:08.14 | MatryxWrk | is that what you meant? |
| 11:08.16 | Rowne | I loved it when I used to scale the WorldFrame. |
| 11:08.24 | Rowne | TrackAlert, yes. |
| 11:08.29 | MatryxWrk | nah - don't like the concept |
| 11:08.30 | Rowne | Let me find my WorldFrame scale screenshot ... |
| 11:08.30 | tekkub | heh, and set it to FULLSCREEN strata too... or was it TOOLTIP |
| 11:08.35 | tekkub | I think it was TOOLTIP |
| 11:08.41 | MatryxWrk | the whole jumping minimap would bug me too much |
| 11:08.56 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/WoW.TotallyScrewed.jpg |
| 11:08.57 | tekkub | Mexican Jumping Minimap! |
| 11:09.01 | MatryxWrk | besides, it's more about remembering the position rather than what's on the current minimap |
| 11:09.12 | tekkub | *giggle* |
| 11:09.25 | MatryxWrk | reminds me of the 90s :) |
| 11:09.28 | MoonWolf | You scaled the worldframe..... |
| 11:09.32 | tekkub | hey you wanna see something weird... |
| 11:09.40 | tekkub | change the minimap width |
| 11:09.45 | tekkub | in town |
| 11:09.45 | Rowne | I know. |
| 11:09.50 | tekkub | then walk outside |
| 11:09.52 | Rowne | It goes ... wheeeeeeeeee. *Streeeeetch.* |
| 11:10.10 | tekkub | then roloadui to reset and chang it outside |
| 11:10.29 | tekkub | it's wonkey |
| 11:10.43 | tekkub | oh Rowne... bug with Visor for you |
| 11:10.51 | Rowne | Visor is Tain's, now. *Hide!* |
| 11:10.54 | Rowne | Go on. |
| 11:11.13 | tekkub | whenever I do this one thing it throws some error.. but I didn't read it, please fix, thank you |
| 11:11.22 | tekkub | oh wait, sorry Curse moment there.. |
| 11:11.27 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 11:11.37 | Rowne | ... |
| 11:11.43 | Rowne | Don't ever do that again, you scared me. |
| 11:12.36 | MoonWolf | I have been playing wow for 5 years now and your addon has been broken since i started playing. it does some errror thingy please fix it. |
| 11:12.37 | tekkub | if I try to resize a texture like ActionButton1Border or a model like PetActionButtonAutoCastable it gives a GetScale error |
| 11:13.08 | Industrial | Stupid wowace forum |
| 11:13.26 | tekkub | I love the "it does this thing that's really annoying please fix" ... "I fixed that in version 1.2, we're in v3.4, you got the latest version?" |
| 11:13.30 | Industrial | they need to fix the "all posts read" on session end |
| 11:13.32 | Industrial | >:( |
| 11:13.33 | tekkub | "yes I do pleaes fix" |
| 11:13.34 | Rowne | Ahhh, get the line next time it happens? |
| 11:13.44 | MoonWolf | Ace: Because we have rowne, well we did, he hangs around, sometimes. |
| 11:13.45 | tekkub | "You sure, update and check again" |
| 11:13.55 | tekkub | "I don't need to update you need to fix it" |
| 11:13.57 | MatryxWrk | added an acegui faq re: dialogs being filled with white translucency |
| 11:14.20 | tekkub | "Okey... it's fixed downloda the new version" *never uploaded a new one* |
| 11:14.25 | tekkub | "Wow thanks!" |
| 11:14.36 | MoonWolf | rob anything major lately rowne ? |
| 11:14.45 | Rowne | Ehhh? |
| 11:14.51 | MoonWolf | CoV |
| 11:14.55 | Rowne | Ohhh. |
| 11:14.57 | Industrial | heh |
| 11:14.59 | Rowne | Nope. |
| 11:15.03 | Industrial | i decided not to buy it |
| 11:15.04 | Rowne | I haven't been playing it as much as I should. |
| 11:15.05 | Industrial | :> |
| 11:15.08 | tekkub | I'll go get your error text rowne :) |
| 11:15.36 | tekkub | too bad there's no intra-sorver mail |
| 11:15.49 | tekkub | we could use it for automatic buc reports |
| 11:15.53 | tekkub | bug even |
| 11:16.02 | MatryxWrk | I just wish with CoV we could play with the character creator offline :/ |
| 11:16.04 | Rowne | It'd be handy but ... |
| 11:16.15 | MatryxWrk | I don't want to buy it and not play it really. |
| 11:16.17 | Rowne | I open my mail like, ohhh ... once a month. |
| 11:16.27 | tekkub | I open it all the time :) |
| 11:16.35 | Industrial | i never get mail |
| 11:16.35 | Rowne | You open my mail all the time? o.O |
| 11:16.36 | Industrial | >_> |
| 11:16.47 | tekkub | plus it'd make the whiner pay for their bugfixes with hard earned gold |
| 11:16.59 | tekkub | have it send you 1g every time |
| 11:17.03 | tekkub | MUAHAHAHA! |
| 11:17.13 | MoonWolf | i thought about that once |
| 11:17.31 | MoonWolf | what if someone from cosmos would rig it to send all gold away next time they see a mialbox. |
| 11:17.32 | tekkub | heh, after that whole SplitMoney() thing... |
| 11:17.54 | tekkub | one auto thing I've been considering... |
| 11:17.55 | MatryxWrk | moonwolf: I think they'd get account bans for scamming :) |
| 11:18.01 | MatryxWrk | unless they included it in the patch notes |
| 11:18.08 | tekkub | I get gilseller spam tells on Stormscale |
| 11:18.31 | tekkub | I want to match cerian things like itembay.ca and auto-GM-ticket it |
| 11:18.44 | tekkub | send them the exact text, playername and servertime |
| 11:18.58 | tekkub | GN ticket creation is in the API :) |
| 11:19.05 | MatryxWrk | tekkub - I spy a flaw |
| 11:19.14 | tekkub | yesch? |
| 11:19.15 | MatryxWrk | more spam appears before the old ticket is dealt with |
| 11:19.36 | tekkub | check for open tix before submitting... edit it in |
| 11:19.52 | MatryxWrk | sometimes they don't close ticks when they finish with them |
| 11:20.01 | MatryxWrk | but I suppose that's their problem |
| 11:20.11 | tekkub | one of wmany |
| 11:21.08 | tekkub | "/vz set f=MainMenuBarBackpackButtonNormalTexture wh=24" >> "VisorBasic.lua:61 attempt to call method 'GetScale' a nil value" |
| 11:21.39 | MoonWolf | school now |
| 11:22.08 | Rowne | Hmm ... |
| 11:22.10 | MatryxWrk | ok - once I've reached exalted with Warsong Outriders, I'll drop flexbar and use visor. |
| 11:22.16 | tekkub | it's weird, I knew someone on #bearcave name MoonDoggie :) |
| 11:22.17 | MatryxWrk | I can't risk gimping my PVP before then though |
| 11:22.18 | MatryxWrk | =) |
| 11:22.36 | tekkub | heh |
| 11:22.51 | tekkub | it's weird, Flexy made me fall in love with remapping |
| 11:23.07 | Rowne | Change it to this, tekkub ... |
| 11:23.17 | tekkub | but I found that, aside from stance/shapeshift/range I only remapped ONE button |
| 11:23.21 | Rowne | if getglobal(p.f).GetScale() then |
| 11:23.21 | Rowne | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.21 | Rowne | end |
| 11:23.31 | Rowne | Er, just a moment ... |
| 11:23.36 | tekkub | at line 61? |
| 11:23.38 | Rowne | if getglobal(p.f).GetScale then |
| 11:23.39 | Rowne | There. |
| 11:23.41 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 11:23.44 | Rowne | Put an if around it. |
| 11:23.50 | Rowne | Not all frames have the GetScale func. |
| 11:23.52 | tekkub | righto |
| 11:23.53 | Rowne | That's the problem. |
| 11:23.57 | tekkub | yea I know |
| 11:24.00 | Rowne | I always did mean to fix that ... |
| 11:24.03 | Rowne | Never got around to it. |
| 11:24.05 | tekkub | wanted you to know tho :) |
| 11:24.13 | Rowne | Thanks, I appreciate that. |
| 11:24.14 | tekkub | well FIX IT DAMNIT! |
| 11:24.20 | Rowne | It'll be fixed for the 1.9 release. ;p |
| 11:24.32 | tekkub | *cry* I don't wanna wait for that |
| 11:24.44 | tekkub | anyway back to my one remapping button |
| 11:25.18 | tekkub | When I made the switch to Visor I didn't like the swapping so I wrote a mod that dynamically rewrites a macro |
| 11:25.42 | tekkub | it's neat, and solves the per/char macros until 1.9 comes out and I don't need that anymore |
| 11:26.45 | Rowne | Also, I'm really, really pleased with how the OO discussion went on WoWI. |
| 11:26.52 | Rowne | Even mondinga dropped by with a supportive post. |
| 11:27.16 | tekkub | you know what I think every time I see "OO" |
| 11:27.22 | tekkub | monkeys |
| 11:27.27 | Rowne | o.O |
| 11:27.28 | tekkub | "Oooo oooo!" |
| 11:27.34 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 11:27.35 | tekkub | same with "o.O" |
| 11:28.06 | MatryxWrk | o.O makes me think of someone doing o_O with their eyes |
| 11:28.17 | MatryxWrk | OO though makes me think of "ooooooooooo" |
| 11:28.50 | MatryxWrk | should anyone be using acegui and get a strange white box where their new dialogs should be : http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=683 |
| 11:29.05 | Rowne | I saw that, Matryx. |
| 11:29.11 | Rowne | I really appreciate you posting that stuff up, too. |
| 11:29.13 | Rowne | It was helpful. |
| 11:29.18 | MatryxWrk | =) |
| 11:29.22 | MatryxWrk | just things as I find them |
| 11:29.26 | Rowne | I already changed my local AceGUI and I'll be poking at Emo again a bit later. |
| 11:29.31 | MatryxWrk | still haven't found the dropdown problem |
| 11:29.37 | MatryxWrk | that change I listed doesn't work properly |
| 11:29.42 | MatryxWrk | though it does stop lua errors for now |
| 11:30.20 | MatryxWrk | calling RefreshMenu as kael suggested seemed to work |
| 11:30.25 | MatryxWrk | but it didn't give the correct list |
| 11:30.29 | MatryxWrk | it just created a blank one |
| 11:30.40 | MatryxWrk | so setvalue() then didn't really set value, but it didn't error at least |
| 11:30.44 | MatryxWrk | will be trying to debug that tonight |
| 11:30.49 | Rowne | I actually had a workaround for this! |
| 11:30.51 | Rowne | In Emo. |
| 11:30.53 | Rowne | Hang on ... |
| 11:31.01 | MatryxWrk | oh really? cool! |
| 11:31.21 | tekkub | oh, I went and merged Eventful and Warmup ^^ |
| 11:31.29 | MatryxWrk | oh good tekkub :) |
| 11:31.35 | tekkub | event though Eventful was a Proof of WTF mod |
| 11:31.52 | Rowne | self:ClearList() |
| 11:31.55 | MatryxWrk | just to confirm rowne: bug is " SetValue() for an already existing list doesn't sett the value" |
| 11:31.57 | Rowne | It resets the list AND gets the right list. |
| 11:32.03 | MatryxWrk | clearlist didn't work for me |
| 11:32.13 | Rowne | Oh, it works in the AddOn, perhaps not in AceGUI. |
| 11:32.17 | Rowne | Hang on, are you using it right? |
| 11:32.20 | MatryxWrk | I've got clearlist() in my code. |
| 11:32.20 | Rowne | Try ... |
| 11:32.28 | Rowne | self:ClearList(self) |
| 11:32.28 | MatryxWrk | let me download my code and look at it |
| 11:32.47 | MatryxWrk | see ClearList() worked insofar as clearing the list. |
| 11:33.00 | MatryxWrk | but SetValue then complained about nil table - unsure if it was unrelated |
| 11:33.05 | Rowne | It obtains the proper list for me too ... |
| 11:33.07 | MatryxWrk | I can test tongith by removing the clearlist()s |
| 11:33.12 | MatryxWrk | -typos |
| 11:33.13 | Rowne | *Nod.* |
| 11:33.31 | MatryxWrk | or - better yet - my brother is in the office with WoW |
| 11:33.36 | MatryxWrk | *knocks up a dodge hack version* |
| 11:33.40 | MatryxWrk | *dodgy |
| 11:35.10 | MatryxWrk | currently the code does lots of " self.SkillOptions.SkillAdlibs["AdlibType"..i]:ClearList() " to reset the dropdowns |
| 11:35.23 | MatryxWrk | before trying things like self.SkillOptions.SkillAdlibs["AdlibType"..position]:SetValue("Pre") |
| 11:35.32 | tekkub | gah another now Rowne.... |
| 11:35.34 | MatryxWrk | anyway, I'll get rid of the ClearList() bits |
| 11:35.52 | tekkub | GetCenter a nil on line 67... |
| 11:36.43 | Rowne | Wrap an if around that too. |
| 11:36.45 | Rowne | Same problem. |
| 11:37.03 | Rowne | Blizzard should give those functions to all true frames. >.< |
| 11:37.06 | tekkub | figgered, just letting you know so you fixey it |
| 11:37.32 | tekkub | you mean... everything that inherits Frame? |
| 11:37.44 | tekkub | even if it returns no value |
| 11:37.47 | tekkub | or a 0 |
| 11:37.51 | tekkub | or something |
| 11:39.13 | Rowne | That won't matter. |
| 11:39.18 | Rowne | There are contingencies there to deal with that. |
| 11:39.29 | Rowne | I put the contingencies in and forgot the ifs. |
| 11:40.07 | tekkub | :) |
| 11:42.12 | tekkub | ./hurray |
| 11:42.18 | tekkub | eet werks |
| 11:43.18 | Rowne | Oh, also ... |
| 11:43.23 | Rowne | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:43.38 | tekkub | yea I can't get that to work... |
| 11:43.40 | MatryxWrk | Rowne - the dropdowns have a 'menu' part which is a listbox, and has 'list' which is the table |
| 11:43.41 | tekkub | one sec |
| 11:43.48 | MatryxWrk | can I do dropdownbox.menu.list ? |
| 11:43.56 | MatryxWrk | or is all the inheritance going to prevent that? |
| 11:44.01 | Rowne | That's what I do, Matryx. |
| 11:44.09 | MatryxWrk | ok - then I can put lots of debug code in |
| 11:44.11 | Rowne | I do self.Blah.Blah.Blah.Blah:DoBlah() |
| 11:44.13 | MatryxWrk | to see when the table disappears |
| 11:44.22 | tekkub | "Invalid option 'wtf=true' entered. |
| 11:44.23 | Rowne | Take a look at Emo. |
| 11:44.28 | Rowne | I got everything working dandy there. |
| 11:44.30 | Rowne | Really tekkub? |
| 11:44.39 | Rowne | Oh. |
| 11:44.40 | tekkub | yes, really, I was like WTF? |
| 11:44.42 | MatryxWrk | if(not(blah.blah.list)) then ace:print("oh noes!") end |
| 11:44.44 | Rowne | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.19 | tekkub | line 156, GEtScale, nil |
| 11:45.40 | Rowne | >.< |
| 11:45.42 | tekkub | you know if I go in the code I'll discover what it does :P |
| 11:45.47 | Rowne | Okay, try it on a frame with GetScale. |
| 11:45.50 | MatryxWrk | once I've fixed these bugs I'm sure I need to optimise the addon. |
| 11:45.52 | tekkub | and then the fun will be lost |
| 11:45.53 | Rowne | Try it on say ... the PlayerFrame. |
| 11:46.00 | MatryxWrk | given it's my first attempt at an ace I'm sure there's lots that can be done with it |
| 11:46.02 | Rowne | Yeah, try it on the PlayerFrame. |
| 11:46.05 | tekkub | plaa yer farme? |
| 11:46.07 | Rowne | Or anything that has GetScale. |
| 11:46.15 | Rowne | I have my playerframe hidden, obviously. |
| 11:46.16 | Rowne | So um. |
| 11:46.18 | Rowne | MyBags? |
| 11:46.19 | tekkub | :P |
| 11:46.30 | Rowne | Whatever you have there that's scaleable. |
| 11:46.32 | tekkub | you want me to do what with your "bags"? |
| 11:46.38 | Rowne | And GetCenterable. |
| 11:46.46 | tekkub | :P |
| 11:46.50 | Rowne | You'll have to see with wtf=TRUE. |
| 11:46.52 | tekkub | ActionButton1 it is |
| 11:47.09 | tekkub | hehe |
| 11:47.14 | tekkub | 16? |
| 11:47.33 | tekkub | nah, maybe 8 |
| 11:47.39 | Rowne | It's actually random. |
| 11:47.44 | tekkub | kewl |
| 11:48.03 | Rowne | I threw it in there wondering whether people would actually try it. |
| 11:48.11 | tekkub | if I set false it goes back right? |
| 11:48.12 | Rowne | I'm stunned I haven't had a "OMGWTF did you DO Rowne?!" yet. :p |
| 11:48.14 | Rowne | ... |
| 11:48.21 | tekkub | cause if it doesn't.... |
| 11:48.28 | tekkub | my guild will kick me... |
| 11:48.34 | tekkub | and my prarie dog will die |
| 11:48.41 | tekkub | and my durability will hit 0 |
| 11:48.46 | Rowne | Er, oops ... crap. |
| 11:48.48 | tekkub | and no NPC will repair me.. |
| 11:49.11 | tekkub | and I'll lose 10% EXP when I die |
| 11:49.16 | tekkub | wait.. wrong game |
| 11:49.36 | MatryxWrk | Rowne: funny story, my adlibber saved my life last night. The random chatter kicked up from trying to defend myself made the level 60 druid who was trying to execute me stand back, stop fighting, and try talking. :) Before he bowed and left :) |
| 11:50.12 | MatryxWrk | I was so happy I did a little dance |
| 11:50.14 | tekkub | hehe |
| 11:50.26 | Rowne | That's hilarious. |
| 11:50.41 | tekkub | oh I just got a great idea... |
| 11:50.41 | MatryxWrk | and there was me thinking it was near totally useless |
| 11:50.43 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 11:51.10 | Rowne | I doubt he'd have done that if you weren't a Tauren. |
| 11:51.17 | MatryxWrk | *nod* quite possibly |
| 11:51.17 | Rowne | Which, if I remember correctly, you are at the moment. |
| 11:51.20 | MatryxWrk | and I did have my panda out |
| 11:51.23 | Rowne | Because yanno, Druids and Taurens ... |
| 11:51.28 | MatryxWrk | and no that's not a euphamism |
| 11:51.37 | tekkub | sit in BB on a PvP server... with AFK up... and set up the mod to say "Guards! Guards! Defend me!" when it catches enemy actions in combatlog |
| 11:51.59 | Rowne | ... |
| 11:52.02 | Rowne | That is so evil. |
| 11:52.02 | MatryxWrk | tekkub - it doesn't hook enemy events - only actions you trigger |
| 11:52.27 | tekkub | well make it, what's rowne's... Reactive macros |
| 11:52.30 | Rowne | You could SO do that with Macromatic. |
| 11:52.34 | tekkub | yea that |
| 11:52.37 | MatryxWrk | so it hooks into useaction and the SPELL_STOP_CASTING thing |
| 11:52.45 | Rowne | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.52 | tekkub | hehe |
| 11:53.02 | MatryxWrk | oo - I want to expand it - so that toggled things can keep triggering - but I'll have to take a look at that. |
| 11:53.04 | tekkub | too bad the ally won't undersatnd |
| 11:53.10 | tekkub | perhaps an emote |
| 11:53.15 | tekkub | what"s a good emote.. |
| 11:53.22 | MatryxWrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.32 | MatryxWrk | dunno if /panic works |
| 11:53.40 | MatryxWrk | I know |
| 11:53.44 | tekkub | You Cry out for help |
| 11:53.46 | MatryxWrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.04 | tekkub | You yell incoming enemies! |
| 11:54.10 | MatryxWrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.41 | tekkub | oh that's good |
| 11:54.45 | tekkub | I like that |
| 11:54.59 | MatryxWrk | reminds me of my days as a rogue |
| 11:55.13 | MatryxWrk | I used to sit, afk, with my brother in stealth beside me, near the enemy windrider in Tanaris |
| 11:55.16 | tekkub | heh, reminds me of my days fishing in BB for the rogues |
| 11:55.19 | MatryxWrk | we were level 38 |
| 11:55.26 | MatryxWrk | every so often, a 60 would try to gank me |
| 11:55.33 | tekkub | it looked like I was fishing for fish but I caught more rogues |
| 11:55.33 | MatryxWrk | he'd get cheapshotted by my bro |
| 11:55.37 | MatryxWrk | and we'd both double-team him :) |
| 11:55.50 | tekkub | I never attacked back, just let the guards rape em |
| 11:55.56 | MatryxWrk | best part was, they never told anyone... after all, who wants to admit they just got totalled by 2 rogues |
| 11:55.59 | tekkub | it was great, I never died once |
| 11:56.00 | MatryxWrk | half your level |
| 12:04.25 | MatryxWrk | when tain arrives next, can you get him to edit the first post in his Visor thread to say what Visor does ;) because it's not mentioned anywhere |
| 12:04.39 | MatryxWrk | until yesterday (or was it the day before) I didn't know what it was for :) |
| 12:04.44 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 12:04.49 | tekkub | I just broked Visor |
| 12:04.58 | tekkub | wacky |
| 12:05.45 | tekkub | rowne still awake? |
| 12:05.52 | MatryxWrk | should be |
| 12:05.58 | MatryxWrk | I assumed rowne was GMT like myself |
| 12:06.02 | Rowne | Barely. |
| 12:06.19 | tekkub | well I put in me new sizes... did a reload |
| 12:06.34 | tekkub | it sizes like half my crap and stops |
| 12:06.40 | tekkub | dosen't move anything |
| 12:06.53 | tekkub | doesn't throw an error |
| 12:07.05 | Rowne | Try commenting out those if's. |
| 12:07.16 | Rowne | Just to see whether it is that. |
| 12:07.32 | tekkub | kay... |
| 12:08.34 | Rowne | Yeah, it's just a matter of determining where it comes from. |
| 12:08.49 | tekkub | same... |
| 12:09.00 | tekkub | I'm gonna pull out all the frames I just added |
| 12:09.08 | tekkub | do em bit by bit /cry |
| 12:09.42 | Rowne | Okay. |
| 12:09.49 | Rowne | I'll look into it when I wake up. |
| 12:09.51 | Rowne | Do me a favour? |
| 12:10.04 | Rowne | PM me a list of the frames on wowace.com and what you set on them. |
| 12:10.04 | tekkub | I know Visor:SetupFrame... you got a quick way to /vz del script-wise? |
| 12:10.25 | Rowne | Um, just call the function, hang on. |
| 12:10.40 | Rowne | Visor:DeleteFrame(frame) |
| 12:10.52 | tekkub | string or frame arg? |
| 12:12.01 | Industrial | Rowne: how about Visor:Undo() as opposed to Visor:Do() :P would be funney :D |
| 12:13.04 | tekkub | hrm.... |
| 12:13.21 | tekkub | I think I lost all my frame locations /cry |
| 12:13.30 | tekkub | time to go check the savedvars |
| 12:13.32 | Rowne | How in the hell? |
| 12:13.38 | Rowne | That's what I was just about to suggest. |
| 12:13.41 | Rowne | How oculd that happen?! |
| 12:13.57 | tekkub | I have no clue.. I just removed all the entries I put in |
| 12:14.10 | tekkub | it's still sizing some frames and not others |
| 12:14.16 | tekkub | and not moving anything... |
| 12:14.17 | MatryxWrk | Rowne: getting rid of ClearList() didn't fix it |
| 12:14.26 | MatryxWrk | I'll have to slam debug code in this evening |
| 12:14.50 | MatryxWrk | but thanks for the suggestion :) |
| 12:14.57 | Rowne | Does it still have the SavedVars? |
| 12:15.05 | Rowne | If so, snag the latest Visor and do a fresh isntall. |
| 12:15.06 | tekkub | checking that now |
| 12:15.13 | Rowne | Maybe something was changed that hasn't been changed back. |
| 12:15.23 | Rowne | And Gods I'm freaking tired, I'm about to collapse, seriously. |
| 12:15.31 | Rowne | I'll hang on a few minutes more though. |
| 12:15.41 | tekkub | go, I'll try new version and PM you frames I'm fucking with |
| 12:15.54 | tekkub | I have a savedvar backup anyway |
| 12:16.00 | tekkub | learned that one with flexbar :) |
| 12:16.03 | Rowne | I hope your SavedVars aren't fried. |
| 12:16.08 | Rowne | Visor should -never- do that. |
| 12:16.12 | tekkub | :) |
| 12:16.17 | Rowne | Never did that to me in all the time I've been using it, which is longer than anyone else. |
| 12:16.23 | Rowne | It's likely just fukt code in the AddOn. |
| 12:16.25 | Industrial | tekkub: dont backup the savedvars. backup the script that requires 1 button to set it up |
| 12:16.31 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:16.38 | tekkub | :P |
| 12:16.46 | tekkub | oh |
| 12:16.47 | tekkub | mah |
| 12:16.49 | tekkub | gawd |
| 12:17.00 | tekkub | my savedvars has one thing... |
| 12:17.02 | Rowne | 7z a -r SavedVars%HistoryDate% f:\games\wow\wtf\accont\NAME\SavedVariables\*.* |
| 12:17.05 | tekkub | a string... |
| 12:17.09 | Rowne | I do that daily. |
| 12:17.10 | Industrial | 7z \o/ |
| 12:17.10 | tekkub | you = "pwned" |
| 12:17.15 | Rowne | ... WHAAAT?! |
| 12:17.18 | Rowne | That's Tain. |
| 12:17.22 | Industrial | omg? :D |
| 12:17.24 | Rowne | I'll kill him! |
| 12:17.28 | tekkub | no ZSV loks normal |
| 12:17.34 | tekkub | gah |
| 12:17.39 | tekkub | SV looks normal |
| 12:17.46 | Rowne | Gah, you terrified me then. |
| 12:17.48 | Rowne | For a moment. |
| 12:17.50 | tekkub | it's all still there :) |
| 12:17.54 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:17.58 | Rowne | You are made of evil pie. |
| 12:18.14 | Industrial | :) |
| 12:18.17 | tekkub | evil GOOEY pie |
| 12:18.18 | Rowne | So it's just a coding error. |
| 12:18.30 | Rowne | Snag the latest Visor, drop in, all will be well again. |
| 12:18.37 | Rowne | Still, send me that list. |
| 12:18.40 | tekkub | hrm odd |
| 12:18.45 | Rowne | And I'll figure out how to make Visor compatible with those frames. |
| 12:18.53 | tekkub | some things aren't rigt... |
| 12:19.17 | tekkub | ActionButton11 only has a WH and H value |
| 12:19.28 | tekkub | but I know it was parented and positioned |
| 12:19.34 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=653 |
| 12:19.53 | Industrial | please post all your frames that arent in the first post tekkub |
| 12:20.12 | tekkub | righto |
| 12:20.17 | Industrial | :] |
| 12:20.20 | Rowne | And yeah, tell me about it too. |
| 12:20.22 | Rowne | IT will be fixed. |
| 12:20.23 | tekkub | I'll post em and go back to my old setup :) |
| 12:20.25 | Rowne | Now. ... |
| 12:20.27 | Rowne | Now I zonk. |
| 12:20.30 | Rowne | I zonk muchly. |
| 12:20.33 | Rowne | With fervour. |
| 12:20.39 | Rowne | Because I've been up 28 hours. |
| 12:20.41 | tekkub | shut up and zonk already |
| 12:20.55 | Rowne | 'kay. |
| 12:20.59 | Industrial | bai rowne |
| 12:21.02 | Rowne | G'night/G'day/G'end of the Universe, everyone. |
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| 12:21.50 | tekkub | actually mine's easy |
| 12:22.13 | tekkub | all the default action buttons's $parentNormalTexture |
| 12:22.20 | tekkub | $parentBorder |
| 12:23.00 | tekkub | the PetActionButton's $parentAutoCastable and $parentNormalTexture2 |
| 12:23.28 | tekkub | anthe the CharacterBag#SlotNarmalTexture |
| 14:33.31 | Eraphine|Lab | morning all |
| 14:33.39 | Industrial | morning Eraphine|Lab |
| 14:43.24 | MatryxWrk | afternoon Eraphine|Lab :) |
| 14:43.35 | MatryxWrk | (~gmt ! ~ugt) |
| 14:46.33 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:14.57 | Eraphine|Lab | lmao |
| 15:15.01 | Eraphine|Lab | All your ram are belong to you. |
| 15:15.10 | Eraphine|Lab | Someone set up us the Ace. |
| 15:15.47 | Industrial | :D |
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| 15:15.59 | Industrial | ooh |
| 15:16.01 | Industrial | ill add that! |
| 15:16.03 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:16.34 | MatryxWrk | Resistance is futile.. you will be Ace-imilated |
| 15:16.53 | MatryxWrk | that's my new fave |
| 15:17.19 | Industrial | lol |
| 15:17.37 | Eraphine|Lab | omg |
| 15:17.50 | Eraphine|Lab | that's too good |
| 15:17.58 | MatryxWrk | edited my original post :) |
| 15:18.09 | Eraphine|Lab | I still haven't written my addon |
| 15:18.17 | MatryxWrk | that's ok |
| 15:18.20 | MatryxWrk | mine isn't fixed yet |
| 15:18.29 | MatryxWrk | I released it anyway |
| 15:19.00 | Industrial | I have mine out now, hopefully last version >:) |
| 15:19.08 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/index.html |
| 15:19.16 | MatryxWrk | last versions never happen |
| 15:19.20 | Eraphine|Lab | Is there a generalized table faq out there? |
| 15:19.28 | Eraphine|Lab | I think my understanding of the basics is flawed |
| 15:19.42 | Eraphine|Lab | When I use DB[item] the [item] becomes the key right? |
| 15:19.52 | MatryxWrk | Industrial: your CSS skill shave improved greatly |
| 15:20.04 | Industrial | MatryxWrk: negative |
| 15:20.16 | MatryxWrk | your copy+paste skills have blossomed then? |
| 15:20.16 | Industrial | MatryxWrk: i just refused to use css |
| 15:20.26 | Industrial | MatryxWrk: this is crap tbh :X |
| 15:20.36 | MatryxWrk | I said it was better |
| 15:20.40 | MatryxWrk | I said nothing about good :) |
| 15:20.53 | MatryxWrk | nah - it's perfectly functional |
| 15:20.54 | Industrial | :+) |
| 15:21.00 | MatryxWrk | thus - it's suitable for the job |
| 15:21.02 | Industrial | yeah but it look bad |
| 15:21.05 | Industrial | looks* |
| 15:21.07 | MatryxWrk | looks fine to me |
| 15:21.11 | Randor | and valid xhtml.. |
| 15:21.22 | Industrial | ofcource |
| 15:21.24 | Randor | only three warnings, regarding tidyhtml |
| 15:21.30 | Industrial | *teeth bling smiley* |
| 15:21.35 | Randor | *g* |
| 15:22.28 | MatryxWrk | eljay |
| 15:22.37 | MatryxWrk | http://s8.invisionfree.com/Doomcraft/index.php?showtopic=3156 |
| 15:22.43 | MatryxWrk | read rel's post down the page |
| 15:22.56 | Industrial | need reg |
| 15:23.13 | MatryxWrk | damit |
| 15:23.18 | MatryxWrk | I hate alt+tab missing |
| 15:23.18 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 15:23.48 | Industrial | :E |
| 15:24.01 | Eraphine|Lab | Sorry, DB[item] = x |
| 15:25.06 | Eraphine|Lab | ok i'm gonna read |
| 15:25.26 | Eraphine|Lab | Hi Cair |
| 15:25.51 | Cair | hey :) |
| 15:26.11 | Randor | industrial: bugmenot/bugmenot |
| 15:28.15 | Randor | hm.. what is all this fuzz about "epics"? |
| 15:28.47 | Randor | the first three epics i found i have just given away.. had no use for a shield as a druid.. |
| 15:30.51 | Industrial | :( |
| 15:31.02 | Industrial | Randor: bugmenot? |
| 15:32.54 | Eraphine|Lab | why in these lua examples is the first character of a line sometimes = ? |
| 15:33.00 | Eraphine|Lab | > table.insert(t,21) |
| 15:33.00 | Eraphine|Lab | > = table.getn(t) |
| 15:33.00 | Eraphine|Lab | 8 |
| 15:33.00 | Eraphine|Lab | > = t[7], t[8] |
| 15:33.00 | Eraphine|Lab | 13 21 |
| 15:36.01 | Industrial | url? |
| 15:41.17 | Randor | industrial: bugmenot/bugmenot = user/pw for the forum matry posted |
| 15:41.26 | Randor | bugmenot is a nice db for such infos ;) |
| 15:42.01 | Industrial | what is bugmenot |
| 15:42.01 | Industrial | :p |
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| 16:00.00 | Tain | Eraphine: Those are running from inside a lua interpreter. It's a way to just print out the values that would be returned. |
| 16:03.55 | Eraphine|Lab | ah ok |
| 16:03.57 | Eraphine|Lab | thanks |
| 16:05.09 | Tain | I did come up with a way for you to have 3 tables, one for names, one for item, one for bid, and sort based on one and keep them together. |
| 16:05.28 | Eraphine|Lab | o rly? |
| 16:05.38 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm reading up on the basics of tables now |
| 16:06.16 | Eraphine|Lab | I realized that so long as I add to all three tables whenever I'm doing something, they indexes will be the same |
| 16:06.47 | Eraphine|Lab | Please share your ideas. |
| 16:07.04 | Tain | Yeah exactly, that's one of the things you can use. |
| 16:07.34 | Tain | If you take Name, Bid, ItemRef, and insert each one into a different table at the same time they'll keep the same index. |
| 16:07.43 | Tain | http://ace.pastebin.com/442300 |
| 16:10.46 | Eraphine|Lab | what does line 18 do? |
| 16:10.48 | Tain | So what I was testing was basically passing the table you want to sort on. Then create a table based on that which just lists the original size of the tables to great indexes, a[1] = 1, a[2] = 2 |
| 16:11.34 | Eraphine|Lab | oh.. |
| 16:11.41 | Eraphine|Lab | line 18 creates a lookup table |
| 16:11.43 | Tain | That passes the table to the function above it and just creates a table based on that size of just index |
| 16:12.06 | Tain | Right so lookup[1] = 1, lookup[2] = 2... |
| 16:12.30 | Tain | Then copy the table you want to sort on to tmpdb so you keep that table in its original order still. |
| 16:14.13 | Eraphine|Lab | so you don't actually reorder the tables |
| 16:14.39 | Eraphine|Lab | the printout is ordered though. |
| 16:15.14 | Eraphine|Lab | wait.. |
| 16:15.15 | Eraphine|Lab | nm. |
| 16:15.22 | Eraphine|Lab | you sort tmpdb. |
| 16:15.55 | Eraphine|Lab | when you sort tempdb, let's say tempdb is bids |
| 16:15.59 | Eraphine|Lab | they're numerical |
| 16:16.06 | Tain | Yeah actually though the lookup I explained wrong. |
| 16:16.56 | Eraphine|Lab | the lookup table is always going to be a table from 1 to getn(t) |
| 16:16.56 | Tain | You're passing the table you're sorting on to the lookup, and then using the item as the key, and then indexing 1, 2, 3... etc as each value |
| 16:17.27 | Tain | So it's going to be lookup["itemref1"] = 1, lookup["itemref2"] = 2 |
| 16:18.12 | Tain | So you basically create a table that's a reverse of the original item table. Instead of item[1] = itemref1 |
| 16:19.23 | Eraphine|Lab | let me think this through |
| 16:19.28 | Eraphine|Lab | line 12 would generate |
| 16:19.54 | Eraphine|Lab | lookup[itemref[1]]=1 |
| 16:20.21 | Tain | It'll actually create lookup[itemref1] = 1 |
| 16:20.44 | Tain | Because you're taking the item table which is t, and taking the value of t[1] |
| 16:21.04 | Tain | t[1] = itemref1 |
| 16:22.02 | Eraphine|Lab | Tain, one problem I have is that I have to sort by 2 parameters |
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| 16:22.16 | Eraphine|Lab | Let's say I get several tells |
| 16:22.30 | Eraphine|Lab | and there are 2 simultaneous items being bid on |
| 16:23.00 | Eraphine|Lab | in my screen output I would need them first storted by item, then by bid. |
| 16:23.25 | Eraphine|Lab | That's why I'm wondering if I shouldn't just create a separate table for each item |
| 16:24.06 | Tain | hrm |
| 16:24.25 | Eraphine|Lab | the problem is that if I store a table in a table |
| 16:24.44 | Eraphine|Lab | it's hard for me to understand how to access the values in that table as opposed to the uniqe table identifier. |
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| 16:48.56 | RasmusKL | Hm, why are you prefering 3 tables over 1 table containing nested tables Tain? any particular reason? |
| 16:49.42 | MatryxWrk | ease of conceptualising seemed to be the reasoning iirc |
| 16:49.47 | MatryxWrk | I prefer nested tables myself |
| 16:49.58 | MatryxWrk | but then I'm quite used to dealing with 10 or 11 dimensional arrays |
| 16:50.18 | Tain | Nested tables take more of a performance hit. |
| 16:50.21 | RasmusKL | 11 dimensional arrays, when would you EVER use those? |
| 16:50.29 | Tain | Plus it was an easy way to sort. |
| 16:50.48 | MatryxWrk | RasmusKL: complex regulation and stuff =) |
| 16:52.14 | RasmusKL | MatryxWrk: Good luck debugging that :-) arr[0][2][3][1][34][42][5][3][2][12][3][45] <- You couldn't possible comprehend such a datastructure. |
| 16:52.28 | MatryxWrk | it's easier to do it in chunks |
| 16:52.37 | MatryxWrk | temp = arr[0][2][3][1[]34][42] |
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| 16:52.48 | MatryxWrk | then temp[5][3][2] etc |
| 16:52.48 | MatryxWrk | :) |
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| 16:52.59 | RasmusKL | Still, I can't see where you'd ever use so many dimensions. |
| 16:53.15 | MatryxWrk | it's a tracking matrix for all sorts of things |
| 16:53.16 | RasmusKL | Not to talk about the amount of memory it'd take if it's just any decent size. |
| 16:53.33 | RasmusKL | In lua? |
| 16:53.38 | MatryxWrk | no - don't be silly |
| 16:53.39 | MatryxWrk | :) |
| 16:53.41 | MatryxWrk | lua would die |
| 16:53.44 | MatryxWrk | a horrible death |
| 16:53.47 | RasmusKL | What then? |
| 16:53.55 | MatryxWrk | a combination of php and mysql |
| 16:54.10 | MatryxWrk | so "proper databases" |
| 16:54.27 | RasmusKL | mysql isn't a proper database :-P |
| 16:54.36 | MatryxWrk | oh don't start being petty |
| 16:54.48 | RasmusKL | well, from an sql view of the world, it isn't :-) |
| 16:54.57 | MatryxWrk | you know full well what I mean :P |
| 16:54.59 | RasmusKL | but yes, for most tasks it's aquadate. |
| 16:55.30 | RasmusKL | I would very much like to see an example of those 11 dimensions though :-) Curious as I am. |
| 16:55.55 | MatryxWrk | well it's simple - all you need is a table which requires a primary key across 11 fields to guarantee uniqueness |
| 16:56.41 | RasmusKL | Sounds like overkill, would be easier to add an extra field to the table then, a unique id. |
| 16:56.47 | MatryxWrk | there are other ways it could be done, but given the system I had to start with it was the better option. |
| 16:57.08 | RasmusKL | Aye, that might be a reason :-) |
| 16:57.19 | MatryxWrk | even so - when the system needs to ensure uniqueness you'll have to have a unique index across those 11 still ;) |
| 16:57.39 | MatryxWrk | or - a more down to earth example |
| 16:57.44 | MatryxWrk | a more "lua" based example |
| 16:57.46 | RasmusKL | Not if you've established an extra field that's generated uniquely :-) |
| 16:57.47 | MatryxWrk | nested dialogs |
| 16:58.11 | RasmusKL | UI dialogs? |
| 16:58.18 | MatryxWrk | maindialog.pageone.subcontainer2.listbox3. yadda etc |
| 16:58.18 | MatryxWrk | yes |
| 16:58.38 | MatryxWrk | technically that's an example of an x dimensional array in lua |
| 16:59.11 | RasmusKL | Well, it's very sparse x dimensional arrays :-) |
| 16:59.44 | MatryxWrk | yes true :) |
| 16:59.44 | Tain | Kaelten did testing on that sort of deep nesting, Lua takes a lot of time and memory to process it. |
| 16:59.45 | MatryxWrk | really? |
| 16:59.50 | MatryxWrk | hmm |
| 16:59.53 | RasmusKL | If you consider the "grid" case, just imagining (not to say start modelling) anything more than 3 dimensionals is mind boggeling. |
| 16:59.58 | MatryxWrk | perhaps acegui needs a conceptual rewrite then |
| 17:00.00 | Tain | Considerably more than making more flat arrays. |
| 17:00.08 | MatryxWrk | because it uses lots of inheritance and nesting |
| 17:00.26 | Eraphine|Lab | does acegui have a pre-set method of displaying tables? |
| 17:00.28 | MatryxWrk | e.g. dropdown.menu.list is 3 levels just for a dropdown's contents |
| 17:00.37 | Tain | You'd have to talk to him about what exactly he found though, he just explained it briefly to me when I asked about his item storing format in kci |
| 17:00.39 | MatryxWrk | tables? as in just simple 2 dimensional ones? |
| 17:00.43 | Eraphine|Lab | also, does ace:print print tables recursively? |
| 17:00.45 | Eraphine|Lab | yeah matryx |
| 17:00.50 | MatryxWrk | no it doesn't then |
| 17:01.00 | MatryxWrk | and I don't think ace:print does var_dump |
| 17:01.08 | Tain | No ace:print won't recurse |
| 17:01.11 | Eraphine|Lab | dang |
| 17:01.21 | Eraphine|Lab | so no print_r function? a la php's print_r? |
| 17:01.34 | Tain | kergoth wrote a table traversal function though. |
| 17:01.53 | Eraphine|Lab | I found the code for one.. not sure if it will work in bliz lua |
| 17:02.07 | Eraphine|Lab | http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=4903 |
| 17:02.37 | Tain | http://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua |
| 17:07.04 | Eraphine|Lab | http://ace.pastebin.com/442377 |
| 17:07.19 | Eraphine|Lab | It's not as functional with returns, but i think it gets the job done with less |
| 17:11.03 | RasmusKL | oh nice, you found Nick Gammon's page :-) |
| 17:11.18 | Eraphine|Lab | is he famous? |
| 17:11.25 | Eraphine|Lab | I was just looking around for table tutorials |
| 17:11.48 | RasmusKL | well, not really I guess. I've just been using the mud client he wrote (and that this page is for) for a few years :-P |
| 17:12.21 | RasmusKL | I didn't know that he adopted lua though, used to be only jscript and vbscript. |
| 17:12.22 | Eraphine|Lab | i'm finding his examples easier to digest |
| 17:12.34 | RasmusKL | He's very helpful. |
| 17:12.53 | RasmusKL | I've mailed with him a few times with questions. |
| 17:16.29 | Eraphine|Lab | i think.. |
| 17:16.49 | Eraphine|Lab | would it be stupid to sort the table once. |
| 17:17.02 | Eraphine|Lab | and then create smaller tables from the first one and sort that, and stick it back in? |
| 17:17.21 | Eraphine|Lab | If I wanted to sort by itemname first, then by mid. |
| 17:17.22 | Eraphine|Lab | err bid |
| 17:17.41 | Eraphine|Lab | I sort it by name, compair values for all those bids/names with the same item |
| 17:17.52 | Eraphine|Lab | create a new table out of that, short it, and stick it back in at the right indexes? |
| 17:20.55 | Tem | kergoth, you around? |
| 17:21.19 | Tem | Eraphine|Lab: you don't need to make a new table for that |
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| 19:18.09 | Tain | Why are you using DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage Eraphine! Use ace:print() |
| 19:26.57 | Eraphine|Lab | where? |
| 19:27.43 | Tain | Oh sorry, I thought Beladona was talking to you when she posted something, but it was shouryuu |
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| 21:46.41 | FryGuy | anyone here use Warmup? |
| 21:47.17 | [Matryx] | have done |
| 21:48.04 | FryGuy | what exactly does the KiB number represent? |
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| 21:54.24 | FryGuy | i've got an addon that the savedvariables file is 1k for, but it shows 3 megs as the addon size |
| 21:56.21 | [Matryx] | isn't it Kilobits? |
| 21:56.23 | [Matryx] | I'm not sure |
| 21:56.31 | [Matryx] | does it say on the thread? |
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| 23:27.29 | FryGuy | gah |
| 23:27.33 | FryGuy | AUF is annoying to set up |
| 23:30.48 | Industrial | new webby |
| 23:30.55 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/index.html |
| 23:30.55 | Industrial | well |
| 23:31.03 | Industrial | slapped some colours on it |
| 23:31.12 | Industrial | you like or you no like? |
| 23:32.25 | Industrial | well im off |
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