| 00:00.21 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 00:02.54 | Randor | good luck :D |
| 00:03.28 | ToastTheif | with much thanks to Randor ^^ |
| 00:03.57 | Randor | not for that ;) |
| 00:04.13 | ToastTheif | I never would have go that without you lol |
| 00:05.09 | Randor | you would, it could have taken you longer.. maybe.. but you would have found the how-to's in the net ;) |
| 00:05.40 | ToastTheif | yeah |
| 00:05.48 | ToastTheif | I had been searching google 4ever |
| 00:05.52 | ToastTheif | and found a site |
| 00:05.58 | Randor | try alltheweb.com instead |
| 00:06.00 | ToastTheif | but it's down for matienance today... |
| 00:06.18 | Randor | i have the impression it helps me more than google |
| 00:09.06 | ToastTheif | now that I changed both of those |
| 00:09.36 | ToastTheif | time to figure out why when you click "Visit Home Page" it opens in a new window |
| 00:10.14 | ToastTheif | when I clearly have the "Force links that open a new window to open in a new tab" option checked |
| 00:11.30 | ToastTheif | oh I have to change imagezooms site too I think |
| 00:12.46 | Randor | this "open in new window" is inside firefox i dare.. nothing to do with the extension itself... |
| 00:14.45 | ToastTheif | yeah I kno |
| 00:14.52 | ToastTheif | but I still want to fix it :) |
| 00:15.21 | Randor | just wanted to inform, not to discourage ;) |
| 00:15.34 | ToastTheif | Im a little obessive like that |
| 00:16.01 | ToastTheif | even the slightest innconviences bug me |
| 00:16.34 | ToastTheif | sure it's less work to just deal with it instead of learning a bunch of new stuff to fix it, but that's half the fun also |
| 00:20.09 | ToastTheif | hmm, why wouldn't that option work for links in the extension panel...? |
| 00:21.56 | Randor | because the option only affects the browsing frame(s)? |
| 00:22.21 | Randor | iirc the extensions panel is a xul panel |
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| 00:23.28 | ToastTheif | iirc? |
| 00:23.36 | Kaelten | hello |
| 00:24.25 | Cairenn | If I Recall (Remember) Correctly ... IIRC |
| 00:25.24 | Randor | hi kaelten |
| 00:25.51 | Randor | btw toast, try ~wtf acronym-you-don't-know |
| 00:25.54 | Randor | ~wtf iirc |
| 00:26.54 | Randor | and if you don't want to do this in "public" /msg purl wtf iirc ;) |
| 00:27.44 | Randor | what for? |
| 00:28.04 | ToastTheif | LSU wins |
| 00:28.22 | Cairenn | why not? lot more folks hanging out there, more to talk and joke around with |
| 00:28.32 | Randor | hm... |
| 00:28.37 | Randor | no thanks ;) |
| 00:36.27 | Randor | ~wtf pout |
| 00:36.41 | Randor | :D |
| 00:37.15 | Randor | pouty? |
| 00:37.20 | Randor | i think i know.. |
| 00:38.18 | Randor | forget it then, i can continue whatever i do while a five year old boy is crying beside me because he doesn't get what he wants |
| 00:38.27 | Randor | ;) |
| 00:39.15 | Industrial | purl: pout is To protrude the lips in an expression of displeasure or sulkiness. |
| 00:39.16 | purl | Industrial: okay |
| 00:39.24 | Industrial | ~wtf pout |
| 00:39.33 | Industrial | purl: pout? |
| 00:39.34 | purl | from memory, pout is To protrude the lips in an expression of displeasure or sulkiness. |
| 00:39.40 | Industrial | ;) |
| 00:39.49 | Randor | ~dict pout |
| 00:40.40 | Randor | mop and mow? *g |
| 00:41.03 | Industrial | :\ |
| 00:44.19 | Kaelten | who registered this channel originally? |
| 00:44.26 | Randor | ##ace? |
| 00:44.28 | ToastTheif | that was me |
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| 00:44.36 | ToastTheif | not really |
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| 00:44.42 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 00:44.45 | ToastTheif | I think Ker did |
| 00:45.07 | Randor | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.49 | Randor | brb |
| 00:47.57 | Kaelten | nope it is registered |
| 00:57.49 | Randor | then i asked something wrong ;) |
| 00:59.04 | Randor | indeed... just #ace is enough.. |
| 01:01.06 | Cody | Hmm, I guess I should register my nick. |
| 01:01.19 | Cody | But...Cody is already registered. |
| 01:01.21 | Cody | Suck... |
| 01:11.24 | Cody | Hmmm, well... |
| 01:17.50 | Codayus | Hmm, well, that seems to work. |
| 01:20.03 | Codayus | Wonder who would want to take the name Cody, anyhow? It's not like its a particularly common name... :-/ |
| 01:32.59 | Randor | ok, my bed is calling.. |
| 01:33.06 | Randor | good night |
| 01:49.25 | Industrial | nn |
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| 02:19.06 | Kaelten | well damn |
| 02:19.44 | Kaelten | I doubt everyone if actually paying attention anyway. |
| 02:20.30 | Cairenn | paying attention to what? |
| 02:32.18 | Kaelten | only way for me to get this chanel registered is for me to be an +o here and it doesn't look like thats happening since to get that we'd have to empty it out and have me be the first person to sign back in. |
| 02:33.56 | Cairenn | logging out then, let me know in the other channel when to log back in |
| 02:34.04 | Cairenn | you'll have to figure out how to boot the bot |
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| 02:54.04 | Codayus | Hmmm, guess everyone should leave then? |
| 02:55.08 | kergoth | CIA and purl wont be leaving right now. |
| 02:55.13 | kergoth | so dont bother |
| 02:55.21 | Codayus | Hmmm, fair enough. |
| 02:55.24 | kergoth | no point clearing the channel until we know we actually can clear it completely |
| 02:55.38 | Codayus | A server restart would help, I guess. |
| 02:55.46 | kergoth | eh? |
| 02:55.56 | Codayus | If freenode completely failed. |
| 02:56.04 | Codayus | But the chances of that are PROBABLY ~0. :-( |
| 02:56.07 | kergoth | freenode isnt one server. |
| 02:56.09 | Codayus | Damn stable networks. |
| 02:56.18 | Codayus | Indeed. |
| 02:56.34 | Codayus | Hence the 0...sorry, that didn't come out particularly well. |
| 02:56.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:56.54 | kergoth | np |
| 03:32.09 | Kaelten | yep .... if we could get it emptied and registered then we'd actually have the channell protected to some extent |
| 03:33.18 | kergoth | Kaelten: i just submitted a group registration for ##ace, via the web interface. that'll ensure that its better protected than just doing a chanserv register. in fact, the latter will stop working at some point here |
| 03:33.32 | kergoth | i need to submit a group registration for #ace with turan as the contact |
| 03:33.47 | kergoth | couldnt get #ace, since none of us are official developers on ace itself |
| 03:33.54 | kergoth | new irc network policies |
| 03:35.05 | Kaelten | ah so I can get #ace |
| 03:35.35 | Kaelten | since I am an official developer on it? |
| 03:35.38 | kergoth | if you're an official member of the Ace development team, then yep |
| 03:35.50 | kergoth | ## is unofficial. community. users, not the actual members of the project |
| 03:35.58 | kergoth | its so some random user cant go sit on your project's channel |
| 03:36.01 | kergoth | makes sense, really |
| 03:36.06 | Kaelten | ya |
| 03:36.09 | Kaelten | where is the website? |
| 03:36.14 | kergoth | www.freenode.net :P |
| 03:36.21 | kergoth | click on group registration, read the policies there |
| 03:39.37 | Codayus | Ah, that's a cool idea. |
| 03:41.02 | Kaelten | ok I've submitted a group contact form |
| 03:41.28 | kergoth | great |
| 03:41.49 | Kaelten | so thats why it says #ace is already taken? |
| 03:41.56 | kergoth | once you have the group, the freenode ircops will let you just grab ahold of the existing channels |
| 03:42.01 | kergoth | #ace was registered by someone else |
| 03:42.04 | kergoth | isnt actively used |
| 03:42.10 | kergoth | once you've got the ace group, you'll be allowed to take it over. |
| 03:42.17 | Kaelten | cool |
| 03:42.28 | Kaelten | well thats done, |
| 03:42.43 | Kaelten | I'm wanting to see what people would like to see on the wowace website? |
| 03:42.48 | kergoth | cool. course we'll have to all get in the habit of actually using the new channel again |
| 03:42.52 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 03:42.59 | Kaelten | won't be that bad |
| 03:48.15 | Kaelten | killed the cough in under 10 mins the first time. |
| 03:48.15 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 05:49.25 | Tem | Anyone know if you get UNIT_AURA events for the "mousover" unit? |
| 06:10.53 | Tem | oh damnit it's so hard not to bug him about stuff |
| 06:15.32 | Tem | ~emulate inigo |
| 06:21.21 | Tem | !emulate inigo |
| 06:21.24 | Tem | !inigo |
| 06:21.26 | Tem | ~inigo |
| 06:21.28 | purl | Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. |
| 06:23.44 | Tem | ~inigo |
| 06:23.45 | purl | Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die. |
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| 16:27.22 | Ramble | I'm curious if Rowne ever followed up on his "Hoofing" lesson... |
| 16:27.44 | MoonWolf | no idea. |
| 16:28.08 | Ramble | hm.. I've been messing around with it. I was able to hoof myself to the ground underneath Stormwind |
| 16:29.09 | Ramble | Now I"m running around a huge open area north of there... (the empty spot on the map west of Burning Steppes |
| 16:29.30 | MoonWolf | nothing interesting to see i suppose ? |
| 16:29.32 | Ramble | ... wishing I had something faster than druid travel form heh. |
| 16:30.09 | MoonWolf | epic mount |
| 16:30.13 | Ramble | hm.. not really |
| 16:30.26 | MoonWolf | druids need an epic travel form |
| 16:30.26 | Ramble | well , I'm lvl 32. but ... |
| 16:30.29 | Ramble | haha |
| 16:30.44 | Ramble | um... so I what I did run into that was interesting |
| 16:30.50 | Ramble | underneath dwarven district |
| 16:30.59 | Ramble | there was a unit named "Event Generator 001" |
| 16:31.08 | Ramble | (I could target it with /target Event Generator" |
| 16:31.39 | MoonWolf | it did nothing ? |
| 16:32.11 | Ramble | nothing spectacular, no. I could just target it but it did nothing... it was just a floating nameplate |
| 16:32.18 | Ramble | ... level 5 I think it was |
| 16:32.32 | Ramble | ... warrior according to ace perl |
| 16:35.48 | Randor | yeah, i've heard about this damn nameplates.. never trust one.. |
| 16:36.54 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 16:37.11 | Ramble | ugh. all these walls aren't steep enough, I cant get out |
| 16:37.11 | MoonWolf | dont hurt it, it could be where all the event in the ui come from :P |
| 16:37.22 | Ramble | lol |
| 16:37.34 | Ramble | I kill it DD blows up |
| 16:37.38 | Randor | don't hurt it... but don't turn your back to it neither.. |
| 16:37.48 | Ramble | lol |
| 16:38.03 | Randor | *mumble*vicious little plates*mumble*.. |
| 16:38.05 | Ramble | damn it, these walls are like vertical but I can't climb up the very bottom |
| 16:40.21 | MoonWolf | it was a trap you can N3V4 get out |
| 16:41.04 | Ramble | well I can swim back to westfall |
| 16:41.55 | Ramble | ugh, everything is just barely not steep enough at the bottom |
| 16:42.06 | Ramble | can't get myself stuck onthe wall |
| 16:42.50 | Ramble | keep sliding down instead fo up :-/ |
| 16:43.02 | Ramble | lousy gravity |
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| 16:53.58 | Ramble | woo, I got high enough I can see alliance |
| 16:55.55 | Ramble | oh shit |
| 16:56.08 | Ramble | yea that most deffinately was a hole in the ground |
| 16:57.37 | Industrial | hehe you know you can also really easy go from the dwarve mountains to the lake to the right of it |
| 16:57.48 | Industrial | onto the mounutains? |
| 16:57.49 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:58.36 | Ramble | wait what? where? |
| 16:58.51 | Ramble | ... I have to get my body... although I doubt I can. |
| 17:01.11 | Industrial | hehe ill go make some screenies |
| 17:02.55 | Ramble | man, I'm not wanting to trek all the way back here from BB |
| 17:05.08 | Ramble | nor do I want to spirit res in elwyn... |
| 17:06.38 | Ramble | lol, I wonder what would happen |
| 17:06.46 | Ramble | if I went and fell through that hole as a ghost |
| 17:18.03 | Ramble | .. this mountain needs to just give up and let me climb it |
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| 17:42.40 | Ramble | ::sigh:: ID, I hope what you're gonna show me is more intersting than all the places I've almost climbed up |
| 17:43.10 | Tain | This waking world is definitely not as interesting. |
| 17:43.36 | Ramble | not really |
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| 18:45.38 | Ramble | woo! |
| 18:46.04 | Ramble | anyone have an ally char on Dark Iron? |
| 18:47.05 | cladhaire | nah |
| 18:47.10 | cladhaire | i'm on Stormrage and Kael'thas. |
| 18:47.19 | cladhaire | ally on SR, horde on K |
| 18:47.32 | Ramble | So you know that random portal between trade and old town? |
| 18:47.58 | Ramble | that's like gated off and doesn't go anywhere |
| 18:48.28 | Ramble | I'm standing on the other side of that gate with my 32 tauren druid. |
| 18:49.01 | Ramble | I don't think anyone can see me cause I don't see any alli in SW. |
| 18:49.10 | cladhaire | hahaha thats awesome.. how 'd you get back therE? |
| 18:49.14 | cladhaire | its allegedly the prison |
| 18:49.32 | Ramble | scratch that, I can see someone |
| 18:49.47 | Ramble | make a human on dark iron and run to SW ! tell me if you can see me! |
| 18:50.06 | cladhaire | i'm in the middle of a quest :P |
| 18:50.10 | Ramble | dang |
| 18:50.26 | Ramble | all my friends have horde characters already on here... |
| 18:50.28 | Tain | Hey I have Ally on Stormrage too |
| 18:50.37 | cladhaire | Tain: Really.. what guild? |
| 18:51.00 | Tain | A friend's small guild, his first real MMORPG so I figured I'd join up. <The KungFu Theatre> |
| 18:51.06 | cladhaire | hahah i've seen them around |
| 18:51.23 | Tain | Have a 60 Rogue there, and a few other random and sundry chars. |
| 18:53.28 | Ramble | tain! make a char on Dark Iron and come see me! |
| 18:53.43 | Tain | haha I have too many! |
| 18:53.52 | Tain | I still have a 40 Paladin on some server that I don't even remember. |
| 18:53.58 | Tain | And a 25 or so Warrior on that server. |
| 18:54.20 | Ramble | Alliance? |
| 18:55.29 | Tain | Yeah, Alliance. I have Horde on Lothar. |
| 18:57.03 | Ramble | ... hehe I got here by a rendering glitch... and if I glitch it back so I'm looking from the other perspective, I'm about 100 ft in the air over a huge hole in the ground |
| 18:57.19 | MoonWolf | now that is impressive, screens. |
| 18:57.38 | Ramble | I want a screen from the other side of the gate |
| 18:57.43 | Ramble | but I'll make one hold on |
| 18:57.50 | MoonWolf | cant make US chars, sorry. |
| 18:58.21 | Ramble | drat |
| 18:58.26 | Ramble | Tain! come take a screenshot of me! |
| 18:59.05 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:00.06 | Ramble | what's that one free place to host pictures? |
| 19:00.22 | Ramble | hm, I wonder if I can host stuff on my account on kergoths computer |
| 19:00.35 | cladhaire | imageshack.us |
| 19:00.38 | cladhaire | is what I use |
| 19:00.39 | Tain | flikr is free isn't it? |
| 19:00.49 | Tain | flickr? flickboogr? Not sure. |
| 19:01.30 | MoonWolf | imageshack is free |
| 19:01.32 | Tain | The hardest part about coding anything is just getting my mind into starting. |
| 19:01.51 | MoonWolf | yeah, i kept pushing my homework last 4 weeks, now im doing it and liking it. |
| 19:02.07 | Ramble | A caged dancing tauren in SW would get you some inspiration! |
| 19:02.15 | MoonWolf | not to mention making this thing do more then i have too in half the amount of space my program can take |
| 19:02.40 | Ramble | http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormwind9zd.jpg |
| 19:03.07 | MoonWolf | and the 100ft in the air can i see that too ? |
| 19:03.14 | Tain | haha java is fine. |
| 19:03.19 | Tain | It's not a hack language like Lua. ;) |
| 19:03.31 | cladhaire | Can you go anywhere behind you Ramble? |
| 19:03.32 | MoonWolf | no it creates more overhead then it should. |
| 19:03.41 | Ramble | woo! someone found me! |
| 19:04.09 | Tain | Java's runtime has a lot of overhead, yeah. |
| 19:04.11 | Ramble | no, it's all just open space |
| 19:04.27 | Ramble | I wonder if casters can hit me |
| 19:04.42 | MoonWolf | hmm, can you hit something outside ? |
| 19:05.26 | Ramble | best angle I can get of the hole from up here, http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormwind26zf.jpg |
| 19:05.33 | MoonWolf | damn, i have two buttons in my java calculator that need something usefull to do. |
| 19:05.41 | Ramble | well, I'd try to hit that gnome but he ran off |
| 19:05.53 | Ramble | no other npcs close enough to me. |
| 19:06.00 | MoonWolf | talk about a camera screwuop |
| 19:06.13 | MoonWolf | some eoa you can target outside of the bars ? |
| 19:06.18 | MoonWolf | AoE* |
| 19:07.04 | Ramble | The two little boys on the dock, but I can't attack them... and everyone else is no where near my line of sight |
| 19:07.22 | MoonWolf | buff them |
| 19:07.46 | Ramble | hehe... |
| 19:07.50 | Ramble | wait a sec |
| 19:07.51 | MoonWolf | im sure they want Mark of the wild on them. |
| 19:09.21 | Ramble | mmm, can't |
| 19:10.07 | Ramble | hehe, he's trying to attack me |
| 19:10.38 | MoonWolf | the kid ? |
| 19:10.46 | Ramble | no, some lvl 8 NE druid |
| 19:10.55 | MoonWolf | kill him |
| 19:11.06 | Ramble | no pvp flag, he has to actually hit me |
| 19:11.11 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 19:11.27 | Ramble | good, he's not in my line of sight |
| 19:11.34 | Ramble | I'm safe from casters :-D |
| 19:11.52 | Ramble | haha |
| 19:11.57 | Ramble | I made him run crying though |
| 19:12.04 | Ramble | 2 hits and he's at 9% |
| 19:12.08 | MoonWolf | haha |
| 19:12.25 | Ramble | ... wonder if AOE can get me |
| 19:12.37 | Ramble | woo! I hope all of SW comes to kill me |
| 19:13.27 | Ramble | should I kill him or is that just too cruel? |
| 19:14.21 | Ramble | aw, he started dancing with me :-) no death for him |
| 19:15.37 | Ramble | you know what would be cool? is if you could repeat things that someone of the other faction says to you and they'd be able to understand it |
| 19:15.56 | Ramble | aw, he's laying down... where I can hit him... the temptation... |
| 19:16.45 | Ramble | ooh, bur is lol, that's interesting |
| 19:18.28 | MoonWolf | yes, and kek is lol for the horde.] |
| 19:18.33 | Ramble | yea I knew that one |
| 19:18.40 | Ramble | I played Alliance for a long time |
| 19:20.18 | Ramble | hm... now I wonder if I can get out of here again without dying |
| 19:20.32 | Ramble | oh wait, I had another picture to post |
| 19:20.46 | Ramble | http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=floating5eb.jpg |
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| 19:29.21 | Ramble | bah, everything under SW is un-interesting... trying to get back in there again |
| 19:30.49 | Ramble | hehe, I wish this weren't my main now, otherwise I'd leave him here |
| 19:32.41 | Ramble | aw, I don't get rested exp if I log out in SW? heh |
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| 19:33.30 | Tain | Mornin Cair. :) |
| 19:33.45 | Cairenn | Hey Tain :) |
| 19:46.06 | Ramble | woo, I was able to do it with my gnome character too |
| 19:47.31 | Cairenn | Okay, I do NOT want to hear about you doing it with a gnome |
| 19:47.59 | Ramble | haha |
| 19:48.47 | MoonWolf | trapping him behind the bars in stormwind |
| 19:48.48 | MoonWolf | i think |
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| 19:49.01 | Ramble | hehe. yea, caged that sucker up |
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| 19:51.47 | Ramble | http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnomed9xx.jpg haha... what a good pose |
| 19:55.31 | Ramble | it think it was far more fun with my Tauren though... almost killed some poor little guy |
| 19:59.13 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:02.01 | Ramble | dang it, I should be getting rested exp because I'm in a city, but no... because I'm horde Stormwind doesn't count as a city |
| 20:03.47 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:04.07 | Ramble | did you make Screens of what you were talking about? |
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| 20:09.34 | kergoth | haha |
| 20:09.36 | kergoth | <-- Keffo has quit ("mt.__metatable = "nooo"") |
| 20:10.35 | kergoth | gf left :( |
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| 20:11.36 | Cairenn | *hugs kergoth* |
| 20:11.59 | Ramble | aw... sorry man |
| 20:12.04 | Stylpe | WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T GET ANY HUGS AROUND HERE? :( |
| 20:12.14 | Stylpe | I men, Hi, I'm back =) |
| 20:12.17 | Stylpe | *mean |
| 20:12.37 | Stylpe | I STILL HAVE MY SHIFT BUTTONS :D |
| 20:12.51 | kergoth | damnit |
| 20:14.53 | Stylpe | oh noes |
| 20:15.04 | Stylpe | i'm scared shiftless |
| 20:15.17 | Ramble | haha |
| 20:15.50 | Stylpe | give em back, i can't make smilies - -' |
| 20:16.44 | Stylpe | Wee |
| 20:17.23 | Cairenn | lol, sorry guys, I'm gonna be talking less and less in this channel, now that the WoWI channel is around ... I can't keep up with all of them |
| 20:19.23 | Stylpe | Oh, I totally forgot about that one >_< you even said hi to me! |
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| 20:59.28 | Industrial | Cairenn: no probs :O |
| 20:59.35 | Industrial | hey kergoth hows ur pc? |
| 20:59.46 | Tem | kergoth: has returned! |
| 20:59.47 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 21:00.31 | Industrial | kergoth: my luaslinger seems to have been fixed... |
| 21:02.31 | Industrial | Tain: every time i start WoW it crashes when i enter the world. I am 100% sure its because of visor. When i delete my visor savedvariable file its all fine, until i set it up again and restart.. |
| 21:02.49 | Tem | oh Industrial, what are you doing? |
| 21:02.51 | Industrial | Tain: here is my script, i use LuaSlinger for this: http://pastebin.com/428238 |
| 21:02.52 | Tem | send me your visor file |
| 21:02.56 | Industrial | :) |
| 21:03.11 | Tain | Are you using Ace beta or 1.2.5? |
| 21:03.13 | Industrial | after that i just move visor button 1 (the whole matrix) to the correct spot |
| 21:03.53 | Industrial | http://www.crushingdreams.com/Visor/VisorR30b.zip |
| 21:04.11 | Tain | Ace |
| 21:04.13 | Tain | Not Visor |
| 21:04.16 | Industrial | oh |
| 21:04.29 | Industrial | 1.2.5 |
| 21:04.35 | Tem | Industrial: have you tried to narrow down which part of the file causes the crash? |
| 21:04.43 | Industrial | Tem: negative |
| 21:05.19 | Tem | try commenting out different parts, and find where it dies |
| 21:05.29 | Industrial | will do |
| 21:05.40 | Industrial | Tain: one question, now that the space character is the divider.. can i have more then one space to divide? :) (e.g. aligning stuff) |
| 21:05.46 | Tem | I'd love to post a new crash method lol |
| 21:05.58 | Tain | Can you send me or post your savedvars file also after setting it all up? |
| 21:06.16 | Tain | Ah.. hrm. I think multiple spaces will break it, but I haven't tested. |
| 21:06.35 | Industrial | k |
| 21:06.39 | Industrial | *tries* |
| 21:06.39 | Industrial | :D |
| 21:07.22 | Tem | bah we only went up to number 4 |
| 21:09.42 | Industrial | http://ace.pastebin.com/428247 |
| 21:12.22 | Industrial | now trying out part 1 |
| 21:18.32 | Industrial | hm |
| 21:18.34 | Industrial | isnt the first part |
| 21:22.33 | Industrial | bah |
| 21:22.38 | Industrial | the bars part just works |
| 21:25.54 | Industrial | owww |
| 21:26.06 | Industrial | it borks on the micro buttons |
| 21:26.13 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=HelpMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=MainMenuBarBackpackButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=TOPRIGHT x=0 y=0') |
| 21:26.14 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=MainMenuMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=HelpMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.14 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=WorldMapMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=MainMenuMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.14 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=SocialsMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=WorldMapMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.17 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=QuestLogMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=SocialsMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.20 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=SpellbookMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=QuestLogMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.23 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=CharacterMicroButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=SpellbookMicroButton p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMLEFT x=3 y=0') |
| 21:26.31 | Tem | does it crash on load? |
| 21:26.33 | Industrial | i see no error |
| 21:26.33 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:26.50 | Industrial | when i enter the world |
| 21:27.07 | Tem | hrm |
| 21:27.13 | Industrial | but i dont see any error here ;\ |
| 21:28.22 | Industrial | not that i need those buttons.. |
| 21:28.57 | Tem | Ok Industrial, next stop |
| 21:29.00 | Tem | step* |
| 21:29.08 | Industrial | ok |
| 21:29.09 | Tem | do /vz commands in game |
| 21:29.11 | Tem | one at a time |
| 21:29.16 | Tem | and find where it crashes |
| 21:30.13 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.17 | Industrial | it doesnt know that command |
| 21:30.26 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.32 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:30.34 | Industrial | it is |
| 21:30.43 | Industrial | there is no /vz commands here |
| 21:30.48 | Industrial | what should it do? |
| 21:31.14 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.38 | Industrial | oh |
| 21:31.39 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:31.47 | Industrial | i thought you meant '/vz commands' |
| 21:32.04 | Industrial | ok, sec :> |
| 21:35.32 | Industrial | all of them work as they should |
| 21:35.52 | Tem | no crash? |
| 21:38.38 | Industrial | i Visor:Do'ed them all |
| 21:38.41 | Industrial | and the restarted |
| 21:38.47 | Industrial | (one by one btw) |
| 21:39.04 | Ramble | (heh, Do'ed) |
| 21:39.07 | Industrial | and it seems it "stopped" after the socials button |
| 21:39.20 | Industrial | gah my dad is making me do the laundry |
| 21:39.24 | Industrial | bbl >:( |
| 21:40.00 | Ramble | gah, I wish I had a dad that would make me do my laundary; I've got nothing to wear :-/ |
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| 21:44.18 | MoonWolf | Ramble, God o your LAUNDARY NOW |
| 21:47.41 | Industrial | right |
| 21:47.42 | Industrial | back |
| 21:48.07 | Tem | I have to go... I'll chase your crash this evening |
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| 21:49.30 | Industrial | Tain: i have an idea |
| 21:49.50 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.52 | Industrial | :) |
| 21:50.29 | Industrial | anyway ill just dump those icky buttons i dont need anyway |
| 21:59.19 | Ramble | lol moonwolf (wow delayed reaction) |
| 21:59.35 | MoonWolf | yeah, only about 10 minutes |
| 22:02.19 | Cairenn | *pokes MoonWolf* |
| 22:02.31 | Cairenn | When are you gonna come join the party in the WoWI channel? |
| 22:02.39 | MoonWolf | what, woi channel |
| 22:02.40 | MoonWolf | LINK |
| 22:03.00 | MoonWolf | please |
| 22:03.10 | Industrial | #wowi-lounge |
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| 22:08.41 | Kaelten | hows it going guys |
| 22:09.47 | Industrial | good good |
| 22:09.48 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:09.54 | Industrial | messing a bit with visor again :> |
| 22:09.59 | Industrial | *screenshot* |
| 22:11.29 | MoonWolf | I have no idea why someone would want to use visor or any other frame mover/modifier. |
| 22:11.53 | Industrial | well |
| 22:11.53 | Stylpe | Because Visor is more than that |
| 22:11.53 | Randor | so, turan won't come back for a long while? |
| 22:12.02 | Industrial | i use it to hide the main bar and move around buttons |
| 22:12.08 | Industrial | Randor: ?? |
| 22:12.15 | Industrial | http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9315/wowscrnshot1113052309417if.jpg |
| 22:12.18 | Randor | kaelten's latest post |
| 22:12.27 | Industrial | -----------------------^ this will axpand as i learn more |
| 22:13.50 | Kaelten | ya he's busy with RL and has lost his drive to code for the time |
| 22:13.54 | Kaelten | he's taking a vacation. |
| 22:14.02 | Industrial | decided im going to group my buttons in groups and in size based on importance and function (direct damage, damage ofer time, etc) |
| 22:14.08 | Randor | i understand... |
| 22:14.26 | Randor | bad luck then.. acegui won't go gold without him i guess.. |
| 22:14.26 | Kaelten | ya he's doing full time school and just started full time job, and drives an hour one way to work |
| 22:14.33 | Kaelten | don't count on it. |
| 22:14.44 | Kaelten | or don't count on it not going gold ratehr. |
| 22:14.53 | Randor | now you are confusing me |
| 22:14.53 | Randor | :D |
| 22:14.59 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:15.15 | Kaelten | Its probably going to be a little bit, but I will be continuing development on ace and acegui |
| 22:15.29 | Kaelten | ace is not going to die while its still taking off. |
| 22:15.58 | Randor | this i don't think either.. at least i wouldn't expect this end for ace |
| 22:16.22 | Kaelten | nope not an end at all |
| 22:16.28 | Randor | i just noticed that i am waiting a while already to talk with turan about some conceptual matters with acegui ;) |
| 22:16.41 | Kaelten | well whats up? |
| 22:16.41 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:16.45 | Randor | ehm.. |
| 22:17.32 | Randor | the subclasses define their own events that will be registered, thus making it impossible to define event-handlers for certain events on some frametypes |
| 22:17.47 | Kaelten | example? |
| 22:17.50 | Randor | or i am just too dumb to see how it should be done :) |
| 22:18.03 | Industrial | how do u guys like the setup? :E |
| 22:18.12 | Randor | mom, trying to remember ;) |
| 22:18.34 | Industrial | (i just made it up) |
| 22:18.45 | Stylpe | Too minimalistic for me |
| 22:19.37 | Kaelten | not bad, but a little too minimalistic for me as well |
| 22:19.46 | Randor | i couldn't define an event handler for OnClick for an ACEGUI_LISTBOX |
| 22:19.55 | Randor | (looking @ acemigos currently) |
| 22:20.39 | Kaelten | Items = { |
| 22:20.39 | Kaelten | type = ACEGUI_LISTBOX, |
| 22:20.39 | Kaelten | title = KC_LINKVIEW_TEXT_ITEMS, |
| 22:20.39 | Kaelten | width = 351, |
| 22:20.40 | Kaelten | height = 320, |
| 22:20.40 | Kaelten | anchors = { |
| 22:20.42 | Kaelten | topleft = {relTo = "$parentSortBox", relPoint = "bottomleft", xOffset = 0, yOffset = -14} |
| 22:20.44 | Kaelten | }, |
| 22:20.46 | Kaelten | fill= "FillItemsListBox", |
| 22:20.48 | Kaelten | OnItemEnter = "OnItemEnter", |
| 22:20.50 | Kaelten | there ya go |
| 22:20.54 | Kaelten | oh damn cut the one line |
| 22:20.59 | Kaelten | OnSelect= "OnSelect", |
| 22:21.00 | Kaelten | }, |
| 22:21.06 | Kaelten | its OnSelect instead of OnClick |
| 22:21.19 | Randor | yes, but onselect is a different event than onclick |
| 22:21.31 | Randor | i wanted to provide a right-click menu |
| 22:21.41 | Kaelten | yep |
| 22:21.47 | Randor | onselect only worked with left mouse button |
| 22:22.46 | Kaelten | hmm I think it works on right click too let me double check |
| 22:24.05 | Randor | nevermind, speaking in general it is a "flaw" of the design |
| 22:24.38 | Randor | hm... not trying to be rude or telling that turan made a bad job on this one.. acegui is great as everything else i have seen from turan so far |
| 22:25.32 | Kaelten | lol not being rude man |
| 22:25.41 | Kaelten | trust me I've cought a lot of his blunders in the past |
| 22:26.33 | Kaelten | ok it appears that the listbox elements are not even registered for RightClick. |
| 22:27.42 | Kaelten | I thought it worked, but it appears it doesn't |
| 22:28.00 | Kaelten | now one question is would it be easier for coders to have seperate events for left and right click? |
| 22:29.02 | Randor | maybe it would be a better approach to let the setup register these events more generally, currently only some defined events will get a handler, couldn't these events and corresponding handlers be defined in the config table passed to :Initialize? |
| 22:29.52 | Randor | this would even prevent from having to change acegui if blizz adds events or removes them |
| 22:30.49 | Kaelten | talking about having acegui not setup any default events at all? |
| 22:30.56 | Randor | for me it looks as if acegui gives the possibility to register with the most common events, but i don't think this will help if it wants to be a "general-purpose" lib |
| 22:31.28 | Randor | no, not removing the defaults, but providing the flexibility of setting up exotic events |
| 22:31.52 | Randor | currently if you define OnClick for your element it will be ignored |
| 22:32.16 | Industrial | How would i go about checking conditions and then aplpying "h=FALSE" to buttons with visor and luaslinger? |
| 22:32.30 | Kaelten | ah. ya I think that more flexability was part of Turans overall vision, but he just hadn't gotten that far |
| 22:32.32 | Industrial | if i am in combat, hide them, if im out of combat, show them |
| 22:32.40 | Kaelten | getting something that was working was more important. |
| 22:32.40 | Industrial | heal/power below percentage |
| 22:32.40 | Industrial | etc |
| 22:32.52 | Randor | (23:32:32) Kaelten: getting something that was working was more important. <= sounds too familiar.. |
| 22:32.53 | Randor | :D |
| 22:34.27 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:34.38 | Kaelten | part of the reason why it was a beta :p |
| 22:35.06 | Randor | part of reason why i wanted to tell turan about my thoughts ;) |
| 22:35.20 | Randor | and while we are on the subject, would you mind adding acegui to the svn? |
| 22:36.24 | Kaelten | whats the address to the svn? I never remember book mark it. |
| 22:37.06 | Randor | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki |
| 22:37.10 | Tain | Industrial: Those buttons are crashing my game just moving them around individually. |
| 22:37.50 | Tain | Dunno what the problem is, looking at it though. |
| 22:51.23 | Tain | Ind: I think it's because of the relative parenting, if you don't move all of the minibuttons it'll crash. Yours wasn't moving the Talent minibutton. |
| 22:59.51 | Randor | ok, i'm going to bed now |
| 22:59.58 | Randor | good night ye all |
| 23:00.21 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 23:00.22 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 23:02.49 | Industrial | Tain: i se |
| 23:02.51 | Industrial | see* |
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| 23:11.37 | Industrial | alright guys |
| 23:11.38 | Industrial | nn |
| 23:12.41 | kergoth | night |
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