| 00:00.48 | Cair | oh lord, we're getting slammed now |
| 00:01.44 | Cair | Fangtooth came through for us, but it's gonna hurt none-the-less |
| 00:03.47 | Cody | Oh? |
| 00:04.14 | Cair | Community Spotlight - Fangtooth on 11/10/05 Murgurggugl. It is a sound that we have all come to love, hate, or outright fear. DJ Zeta, however, took it one step further and turned it into a techno-esque sound unlike any other. Check it out! DJ Zeta Feat. Murloc - Creature Labs 1 Have you made or seen something that you think deserves to be on the World of Warcraft Community Watch? Send us a link at: wowcommwatch@b |
| 00:04.35 | Cair | We're hosting the file, it's on our front page |
| 00:05.09 | Cody | Oh, fun... |
| 00:05.13 | Cair | so, our numbers are climbing as folks come to check it out |
| 00:05.23 | Cair | it's all to the good |
| 00:05.27 | Cair | just ... busy |
| 00:06.04 | Cody | heh |
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| 00:19.25 | Cody | Heh, looking at the thread on the official i forum...interesting to see the only non-ace user defending ace is the author of MCom - which appears to be a fairly similar cosmos version of ace. Not surprising he'd defend the utility of having a framework... |
| 00:19.39 | Cody | er, ui forum |
| 00:20.06 | Cair | *nod* |
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| 01:10.13 | Cody | And, hmm, a halfway decent climbdown by Logorol. |
| 01:10.35 | Cody | This class is really boring. :-/ |
| 01:11.04 | Cody | As can probably by guessed by the fact that I keep checking that silly thread... |
| 01:12.41 | Cody | Honestly, how does this guy make an interesting class so boring? |
| 01:17.23 | Cody | Oh nuts, he's covering silly undergrad stuff. Remaining...brain cells...failing... Boredome level...aproaching...maximum... |
| 01:17.51 | RasmusKL | hophop |
| 01:17.59 | Stylpe | It's gonna blow! Emergency cooldown! |
| 01:18.09 | Cair | *panics* |
| 01:18.21 | RasmusKL | It can't explode, it's got a 30m cooldown. |
| 01:19.01 | RasmusKL | Bit disappointed with the Murloc song Cair :-P |
| 01:19.12 | Cair | hey, I didn't make it :p |
| 01:19.23 | RasmusKL | well, good :-) |
| 01:19.56 | Cody | Heh |
| 01:21.49 | Cair | frankly, it doesn't do much for me, either |
| 01:23.21 | Cair | but, having it mentioned on the front page of the blizz site is all to the good, so far as we are concerned ... makes a lot more folks aware of our site that might not otherwise know about us ... soooooo, it's good enough ;) |
| 01:23.43 | Cair | wb Tain |
| 01:24.03 | Tain | Tiiiired |
| 01:24.09 | Cair | awwww |
| 01:24.44 | Cair | poooor Tain, it's such a hard life |
| 01:25.26 | RasmusKL | yeah, it's good for publicity i guess |
| 01:25.30 | Tain | It is! |
| 01:25.40 | RasmusKL | but it still sucks :-P |
| 01:25.46 | Cair | heh, I agree |
| 01:25.52 | Cair | it's amusing to listen to ... once |
| 01:26.01 | RasmusKL | I had to stop it after 45 seconds. |
| 01:26.13 | RasmusKL | and put on some proper trance instead ;-) |
| 01:26.28 | RasmusKL | I believe I put on Infected Mushroom - Dracul instead :-P |
| 01:26.49 | Cair | I turned it off to listen to some good ... anything :p |
| 01:28.24 | Tain | Ug they're doing that boring icky kissing stuff on tv |
| 01:28.35 | Cair | I can enjoy some trance, but most of it is crap |
| 01:28.47 | Cair | *blinks at Tain* |
| 01:35.49 | RasmusKL | Am I the only one slightly amused that someone called Ascendant replied in the UI thread? |
| 01:36.01 | Cair | hehe, I got a chuckle out of that |
| 01:36.19 | RasmusKL | :-P |
| 01:39.27 | Tem_doing_stuff_ | I saw that too |
| 01:39.35 | Cair | wb Tem |
| 01:39.49 | Tem | what concerns me is the next post |
| 01:39.56 | Cair | Tain ... |
| 01:40.00 | Tem | damnit Rowne |
| 01:40.04 | Tem | lol |
| 01:43.37 | Stylpe | These arguments make my hwad spin. |
| 01:43.40 | Stylpe | *head |
| 01:43.57 | Stylpe | What are they trying to do? |
| 01:44.11 | Stylpe | I see no purpose, no aim to these debates |
| 01:44.27 | Stylpe | Is that just me being stupid? |
| 01:45.15 | Stylpe | Cair, you're the wisest here, please tell me what's going on |
| 01:45.52 | Cair | people are being dumb, immature and petty, I already left channels once today over them :p |
| 01:46.49 | Tem | channels? |
| 01:46.51 | Tem | plural? |
| 01:47.38 | Cair | yeah ... I'm in the Cosmos channel too ... from what I saw, they haven't been saying *anything* (unlike some people I could mention), but I took a break from it at the same time |
| 01:48.17 | Tem | For the record, I think rowne went too far talking about getting official recognition |
| 01:49.08 | Tem | but anyway, I have a concert to go to |
| 01:49.40 | Cair | oooo, concert! have fun =) |
| 01:49.54 | Stylpe | I think the point where Rowne went too far was a good while back |
| 01:50.55 | Tain | So point out that those comments are associated with Rowne, not Ace. |
| 01:52.18 | Stylpe | I'm not touching it with an 11 foot pole |
| 01:53.11 | Cair | lol |
| 01:56.10 | Stylpe | It's too cold :( |
| 01:56.25 | Stylpe | I want a bendy pole made of rubber |
| 01:56.44 | Cair | *isn't saying a word* |
| 01:56.49 | Parak | ...I see |
| 01:57.01 | Stylpe | THANKS A LOT |
| 01:57.06 | Stylpe | :F |
| 01:57.25 | Cair | *laughs* |
| 01:57.54 | Stylpe | bah, I don't know what to say or think anymore. |
| 01:58.04 | Stylpe | Let's just blame Blizzard. |
| 01:58.29 | Parak | it's ok, learn2play. |
| 01:59.14 | Stylpe | This whole deal is making me super depressed |
| 01:59.40 | Stylpe | Good thing I'm visiting my mom for the weekend. |
| 01:59.42 | Cair | Stylpe, be a duck |
| 01:59.49 | Stylpe | What? |
| 01:59.53 | Cair | be a duck |
| 02:00.02 | Stylpe | Like, quack? |
| 02:00.05 | Cair | let it roll off you like water off the back of a duck |
| 02:00.30 | Stylpe | Yeah, well, I still don't want to go tumbling off a waterfall |
| 02:01.14 | Stylpe | And I'm afraid if I go against the current, I'll end up in Shit Creek |
| 02:01.22 | Parak | So...if Stylpe weighs the same as a duck, and is made of wood... |
| 02:01.43 | Cair | he must be a witch! burn him! |
| 02:01.55 | Stylpe | Well, can't argue with that. |
| 02:01.56 | Parak | Right! Remove the supports! BURN! |
| 02:02.20 | Cair | *cheers* |
| 02:02.59 | Tain | What? Depressed? That's silly. There's much better things to be depressed about. |
| 02:03.01 | Cair | *waves tiny flag, says in bored monotone, "Hurray"* |
| 02:03.05 | Tain | ooh I like duck |
| 02:03.15 | Stylpe | Right now it would've been nice to have a gf to hug. |
| 02:03.18 | Parak | foie gras? |
| 02:03.43 | Cair | I'm actual rather partial to wild goose, myself |
| 02:04.06 | Parak | where did Turan disappear off to anyway |
| 02:04.26 | Cair | He was going on vacation for a couple weeks, last I heard /shrugs |
| 02:04.30 | Tain | No I'm not a fan of foie gras. |
| 02:04.43 | Tain | But roast duck.. oh yeah. |
| 02:05.07 | Stylpe | Who's Legorol? |
| 02:06.05 | Tain | Doesn't matter to me! |
| 02:06.17 | Cody | If you go against the current...what, are you downstream from a sewage outlet? |
| 02:06.42 | Tain | Electric sewage? |
| 02:06.53 | Stylpe | Details... |
| 02:07.15 | Parak | eclectic sewage? |
| 02:07.33 | Stylpe | Anyway, I figured it out. I'll just swim to the shore and wait for the flood to pass and the current to settle. |
| 02:07.41 | Cody | Some of Rowne's past comments were a bit...offputting. |
| 02:08.23 | Tain | So tell Rowne so. |
| 02:08.37 | Cody | I ran across the ones in the keyminder thread a while ago, and it didn't do a lot to make me want to learn more about ace. But, well, that was then, and this is now... |
| 02:08.38 | Stylpe | But really, who is Legorol? Is he a head Cosmos developer? |
| 02:08.49 | Cair | Wouldn't it be nearer the truth to say "Some of Rowne's past comments were way the fuck out of line"? |
| 02:08.53 | Tain | I fail to see how any comment someone else reflects on me. |
| 02:09.11 | Cody | I have no idea. He seems to think his comments reflect on the cosmos dev team... |
| 02:09.12 | Stylpe | You know there's been a lot of posts on the Ace forums too, right? |
| 02:09.15 | Cair | Stylpe: He is a member of the Cosmos team, yes |
| 02:09.40 | Cair | he's also a really great guy /shrugs |
| 02:11.00 | Stylpe | Listed as Script Developer on their forums... |
| 02:11.44 | Cody | Well,you didn't say what his role was. :-) |
| 02:11.54 | Cair | granted |
| 02:12.03 | Tain | Again, irrelevant. |
| 02:12.19 | Cair | Anyway, afk a few, back shortly |
| 02:12.36 | Tain | He wants to elevate himself to, "great" in my eyes he can stop blanket insulting Ace based on a single person's comments. |
| 02:12.36 | Stylpe | In danger of sounding like a complete jackass here, I like the idea about merging the Ace and Cosmos teams, wiping the table clean and start over. |
| 02:13.05 | weab | for what? |
| 02:13.09 | Cody | Never going to happen... |
| 02:13.12 | Stylpe | In other words: Let's just be friends. |
| 02:13.18 | weab | who the hell uses cosmos :P |
| 02:13.22 | Tain | There's no problem being friends. |
| 02:13.38 | Tain | If anyone bothers to read these threads it's everyone EXCEPT Ace devs who are attacking everyone else. |
| 02:13.46 | Stylpe | Well, it's the only way I can see to shut up the addon USERS. |
| 02:13.49 | Tain | But no, it's just, "Those terrible Ace people talk shit everywhere!" |
| 02:13.55 | Tain | And people just buy it? |
| 02:14.08 | Cody | I'd be really interested knwing what relative usage ofcosmos vs other packs and addons is... |
| 02:14.10 | Tain | Screw 'em. |
| 02:14.48 | Tain | Frankly I don't care what the usage of Cosmos verses Sea verses McDevBoy verses Ace is. |
| 02:14.53 | Tain | It's absolutely and completely irrelevant. |
| 02:14.55 | Cody | It's been a long time since any of my guldies have used anything other than ctmod and various mix n' match addons. There must be people downloading cosmos though...maybe they all play horde... |
| 02:15.04 | Cody | Ayup. |
| 02:16.35 | Cody | You want to write a mod? Great. What's the best tool for the job? Ace? Great, use it. Cosmos (and its various libs)? Wonderful, use it. Rolling your own custom library? More power to you... |
| 02:16.57 | Tain | There have been a number of those posts Cody, interestingly enough by people who use Ace. |
| 02:17.06 | Tain | They get shouted down, of course. |
| 02:17.11 | Tain | No one wants actual sense. |
| 02:17.24 | Tain | Everyone wants drama. |
| 02:17.38 | Cody | Yeah |
| 02:18.43 | Parak | mm, I make an addon compilation for my guildies, complete with a gui installer and all, and I try to put in/replace with ace addons whenever possible :/ |
| 02:19.57 | Cody | I may start. A current guildie of mine is distributing a zip of his interface diretory...which is nice, but I've been thinking about trying to improve that a bit... |
| 02:20.14 | Tain | Things can always be improved. |
| 02:20.23 | Cody | Hmm, it'd be nice if more mods abstacted out default values better. |
| 02:20.26 | Tain | It's just a matter of how much time and effort you want to invest. :) |
| 02:20.46 | Cody | So packagers could more easily change the defaults when distributing packs... |
| 02:21.56 | Parak | I pretty much gave up on trying to make a unified install that loads stuff on demand based on class, as the current ways to do that don't really work...so I just went with a custom install option, where the user gets to pick for which classes they want to install the addons, or just tick those that they want in the custom option |
| 02:22.35 | Cody | Besides, my current interface kicks his interfaces ass. :-D |
| 02:23.12 | Cody | The only mod I've seen which really tries to support the abstracting of settings is the discord mods...and they're not really for everyone. |
| 02:28.11 | Parak | I find discord bars a decent balance of memory usage/functionality/user friendlyness, but that's pretty much it |
| 02:28.19 | Stylpe | What do you think, Cair? Light or dark chockolate? |
| 02:28.26 | Cair | dark |
| 02:28.33 | Stylpe | gooooood >:) |
| 02:28.39 | Cair | *purrs* |
| 02:29.01 | Cair | *groan* |
| 02:29.09 | Cair | *pants* |
| 02:33.01 | Cody | Dark is the only true chocolate... Mind you white makes for good candy...but I just don't see the point of light. :-/ |
| 02:36.11 | Stylpe | Hey, does anyone have any experience with zone changes? |
| 02:36.16 | Parak | this reminds me to run to walgreens...they have some lindor truffles and callebaut dark chocolate on sale |
| 02:36.38 | weab | what's your question stylpe |
| 02:39.50 | Stylpe | My friend is trying to find out when his char is leaving IF, but the ZONE_CHANGED event seemingly fires before the zone name var (or whatever) is updated, so he gets the name of the zone he just left |
| 02:39.59 | Stylpe | Ah, he's using GetMinimapZoneText() |
| 02:40.18 | weab | try i think.. GetRealZoneText |
| 02:42.30 | Stylpe | I think we figured it out =) |
| 02:42.35 | Stylpe | Thanks, weab |
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| 03:05.39 | Tain | ~today |
| 03:05.40 | purl | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 03:08.13 | Stylpe | So, should I bother going to school tomorrow? |
| 03:08.17 | Stylpe | ~8ball |
| 03:08.18 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Outlook not so good |
| 03:08.19 | Rown1 | ... Turan's back! |
| 03:08.32 | Rown1 | Now we must all start pestering him again to show up here. |
| 03:08.39 | Stylpe | What the hell is that supposed to mean? |
| 03:08.45 | Stylpe | (the 8ball) |
| 03:09.09 | Tain | Outlook not so good. |
| 03:09.11 | Stylpe | Does it mean that school will probably suck? |
| 03:09.23 | Rown1 | Yup. That sentence is actually in most 8-balls too. |
| 03:09.25 | Rown1 | Sadly. |
| 03:09.29 | Stylpe | Or that my day will suck if I don't go to school? |
| 03:10.19 | Tain | That's odd, my magic 8ball said, "Have more chocolate." |
| 03:10.30 | Parak | Turan? WHERE?! |
| 03:10.36 | Tain | Huh.. well far be it for me to tempt fate. |
| 03:10.45 | Stylpe | Well, I can agree with the fact that 3 hours of sleep is not sufficient to be able to gain any knowledge from going to class... |
| 03:10.51 | Tain | I'm tempted by far too many other things already. |
| 03:10.57 | Rown1 | He posted a really equitorial post on the Ace Discussion thread. |
| 03:11.02 | Rown1 | I love his diplomacy skills. |
| 03:11.10 | Stylpe | Tain: I want to know where you got your 8-ball ;) |
| 03:11.38 | Stylpe | I already read both his posts in both of the threads, Rowne =) |
| 03:12.18 | Tain | Merriam-Webster online doesn't know what equitorial means |
| 03:12.37 | Rowne | It's a really bad butchering of equity because I'm tired. |
| 03:12.44 | Rowne | See also: pantisocracy. |
| 03:12.56 | Rowne | Where all thoughts are equal unto themselves. |
| 03:12.59 | weab | i started writing a bot addon once |
| 03:13.06 | weab | but it just ended up really annoying |
| 03:13.16 | Rowne | That'd be funny. |
| 03:13.22 | Rowne | The bots in Final Fantasy IX were really good. |
| 03:13.28 | Rowne | You could order the to follow, attack things and heal. |
| 03:13.39 | Rowne | Combine the Lua with a Nostromo doing the hardware button pushing ... ;p |
| 03:13.48 | Stylpe | wow, how advanced is that O_O |
| 03:13.53 | weab | well, i meant more irc style bot but :P |
| 03:13.56 | Stylpe | (about the FF thing =P) |
| 03:14.08 | Rowne | Actually, they were pretty smart. |
| 03:14.08 | Stylpe | (and yes, it was sarcastic) |
| 03:14.13 | Rowne | For a bot. |
| 03:14.20 | Rowne | And damned handy to have around too. |
| 03:14.27 | Rowne | For once, a player that wasn't sassy or idiotic. ;p |
| 03:14.31 | Stylpe | And I've had that thought before, Rowne. |
| 03:14.41 | Rowne | "I appreciate your silence!", "Command not recognized.", "Excellent." |
| 03:14.57 | Tain | HG-88 was the best bot. |
| 03:15.07 | Stylpe | I have a script that runs a timex timer and that every second assists the MT, which thus only requires that I move to the target =) |
| 03:15.15 | Cody | Port an eggdrop... |
| 03:15.20 | Cody | :-) |
| 03:15.30 | Rowne | Hahahahaha. |
| 03:15.34 | Rowne | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=561&sid=8cdd7fa4f8930d425af9eafc2cf1b8a6 |
| 03:15.52 | Rowne | That's nifty, Stylpe. |
| 03:16.10 | Stylpe | Huh? That was the first thing that dropped into my head =P |
| 03:16.12 | Cody | Yay! Monkey Island! |
| 03:16.14 | Rowne | I should make one that uses Timex, a healing system and KeyMinder to create an automatic healing bot. ... but I would SO get banned. |
| 03:16.23 | Stylpe | Oh =P htat |
| 03:16.24 | Stylpe | *that |
| 03:16.49 | Cody | Rowne: Hey, stop infringing on priest territory. |
| 03:16.56 | Cody | WE'RE supposed to be the healbots around here. |
| 03:17.13 | Cair | *beats herself over the head with a clue-bat* |
| 03:17.25 | Cody | We may only be required to mash flash heal randomly, but damnit, we're good at it. |
| 03:17.47 | Cody | No scripts needed! Full employment for priests! Smash the mills! Er...wait, nevermind... |
| 03:18.45 | Rowne | Yeah but I'd love a Druid rejuve bot, too. |
| 03:19.02 | Rowne | Heck, I love Druids full stop. They'd make the perfect bot. |
| 03:19.07 | Cair | #WoWI-lounge |
| 03:19.25 | Rowne | "Cmd: Bear Form - Atk: Mob name", "Heal: Name - Spell: Rejuvination" |
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| 03:20.07 | Cody | (Hey, totally random factoid I ran across the other day - the comment about mills reminded me: did you know that Engels funded Marx's writing from his day job - which was manager of a textile mill? His father's to be exact. Ah, irony...) |
| 03:20.36 | Parak | hmm, wow ui designer is finally out |
| 03:20.38 | Cody | (Have I mentioned that I seem to have ADD?) |
| 03:20.51 | Rowne | I definitely have ADD, it's quite annoying. |
| 03:21.05 | Tain | I don't think I have AD.. oh what's that? |
| 03:22.24 | Rowne | My ADD's come up in Warcraft a few times due to the fact that I'm easily distracted when I should be doing something and most people aren't very tolerant. Of course, it works out better in City of Villains because like ... random villainy! I love that place. |
| 03:22.52 | Stylpe | I'd like to get a definitive check if I have ADD, because I nave a growing suspicion of it |
| 03:23.01 | Tain | Eh it'll pass. |
| 03:23.11 | Stylpe | s/nave/have/ |
| 03:23.41 | Stylpe | What kind of doc would I have to see to get that diagnosos? A shrink? |
| 03:24.18 | Stylpe | s/diagnosos/diagnosis/ |
| 03:24.20 | weab | google it |
| 03:24.23 | Stylpe | I have |
| 03:24.23 | Cody | Meh, there really isn't a real diagnosis for it. |
| 03:24.36 | Tain | See how long you can stare at something. |
| 03:24.37 | Stylpe | I think I can get an extra hour at exams for it |
| 03:24.38 | Rowne | I find that it's easy to tell if you have it. |
| 03:24.49 | Rowne | Party up frequently and see if people yell at you for doing things you're not supposed to be doing. |
| 03:24.52 | Cair | 'scuse me guys, mind if I do a one time advert? |
| 03:24.59 | Stylpe | I'm very patient as long as I don't have to pay attention to anything |
| 03:25.00 | weab | my uncle is about 50 and he was just diagnosed with add about a year ago |
| 03:25.05 | Tain | Cair! You can't sell that kind of thing in here! |
| 03:25.19 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2374 |
| 03:26.29 | Cair | thanks, back to your regular programming now ... |
| 03:26.40 | Rowne | Should we all invade? |
| 03:26.49 | Cody | Hey, isn't that illegal in Alabamba? |
| 03:26.57 | Cody | Oh an IRC channel! |
| 03:27.00 | Cody | My bad. |
| 03:27.03 | Cair | You're welcome, if you want to |
| 03:27.22 | Cair | but it's open to any and all ... so get along :p |
| 03:27.27 | Rowne | I say we should all head over there as a group and throw a kegger! ... or something. |
| 03:27.30 | Tain | Just remember Rowne, you have to behave yourself. ;) |
| 03:27.34 | Rowne | I'll be fine if nobody picks anything with me. |
| 03:27.36 | Rowne | And I won't have to worry. |
| 03:27.44 | Rowne | If they do, Cair will hit them with the Stick of Banning. |
| 03:27.49 | Cair | believe it |
| 03:27.53 | Rowne | So I'll be fine and I won't say anything out of place. |
| 03:28.00 | Stylpe | Yay! Evil Cair! |
| 03:28.16 | Rowne | Cair's like that on WoWI too. Why do you think I like WoWI? ;p |
| 03:28.23 | Stylpe | I see a lot of potential in yoy. *Rubs hands* |
| 03:28.30 | Stylpe | s/yoy/you/ |
| 03:28.30 | Rowne | The WoWI folks are -very- equity-biased. I really respect that. |
| 03:28.32 | Tain | I just like saying, "WoWI!" outloud. |
| 03:28.34 | Rowne | You want to see lots of yoai?! |
| 03:28.42 | Tain | Kind of like, "Wiki!" |
| 03:28.59 | Stylpe | Rowne, don't you mean yaoi? |
| 03:29.03 | Stylpe | =P |
| 03:29.06 | Rowne | My a finger is slow today. |
| 03:29.29 | Rowne | Oh well, time to setup a new account in Gaim. |
| 03:29.41 | Stylpe | Rowne, it's the same network |
| 03:29.51 | Rowne | Oh. |
| 03:29.53 | Rowne | Yay!! |
| 03:29.56 | Stylpe | duh |
| 03:30.00 | Rowne | I hadn't read it. :p |
| 03:30.03 | Cair | heh |
| 03:30.08 | Stylpe | nub |
| 03:30.11 | Rowne | I only read as far as; "We have an IRC channel now!" |
| 03:30.18 | weab | ADD? |
| 03:30.22 | Rowne | Duh. ;p |
| 03:30.36 | Tain | Computers can do that? |
| 03:30.39 | Stylpe | Attention Deficit Disorder? |
| 03:30.47 | Rowne | Yup, I suffer from that, officially. |
| 03:31.12 | Stylpe | And I like to believe that I suffer from it, because it explains a whole lot |
| 03:31.14 | Rowne | I can have my mind set on something then I can be completely distracted by something else and forget about the first thing as though it never existed. |
| 03:31.41 | Stylpe | like my school-teachers always telling me "You can do so much better than this!" |
| 03:31.42 | Rowne | I don't know whether it's just City of Villains or because I'm playing on Eu servers but people don't get ANGY over it on CofV like they did in Warcraft. People really, really hated ADD folks in Warcraft. ;p |
| 03:32.02 | Rowne | I probably could too but eh, easily distracted. I'm too damned curious. |
| 03:32.21 | Rowne | Dammit, now I'm using Tem's typos as actual words. |
| 03:32.22 | Tain | ehn, why try to live up to someone else's definitions of better. |
| 03:32.24 | Tain | I like mine. |
| 03:32.33 | Stylpe | Rowne: I think your case might be a bit mor esevere than mine, because I've never been yelled at for it =P |
| 03:32.39 | Stylpe | Oh wait, that's a lie |
| 03:33.41 | Rowne | "Where are you going?", "I um... that, there! What's that? I've never seen that before!", "Oh, that's [explanation].", "Where are you going now?!", "Oh, this here. Over here ... I, oooh, why is that mob level 62?", "Oh, that's [explanation].", "Oh for f***'s sake, NOW where have you gotten off to?" |
| 03:34.00 | Stylpe | Once I ran into um who was it? Lucifron? Because I was watching my roommate play some other game, and my finger was on the w button, and, well, you can guess the rest |
| 03:34.16 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 03:34.45 | Stylpe | The raid members took it nicely, though =) No wipeout or anything, just a dead gnome =P |
| 03:36.57 | Stylpe | Now, since we've already decided that I'm not going to school tomorrow, should I stay up longer, or go to bed? I'm only slightly sleepy |
| 03:37.14 | Rowne | I'd take lots of sodas and stay up. |
| 03:37.14 | Tain | Stay in school! Don't do drugs! |
| 03:38.54 | Stylpe | I'm staying in school, I'm just skipping it tomorrow. I'd be sleeping through the two classes I have anyways |
| 03:41.35 | Tain | People should just stop posting on that thread now, I've already won it. |
| 03:42.00 | Stylpe | There are like three different threads, which one? |
| 03:42.11 | Tain | I am the winner! |
| 03:43.07 | Stylpe | Yeah, and I'm the Pope. Now where's the evidence? =P |
| 03:43.31 | Tain | Ooh nice hat your eminence. |
| 03:44.28 | Stylpe | Why thank you. Would you like to have a ride in the Pope-Mobile? I have ... *cough* candy in here... |
| 03:44.52 | Tain | No thanks, I already have a sugar-momma |
| 03:48.46 | Tain | hahaha |
| 03:48.49 | Tain | Incoming! |
| 03:49.05 | Cairenn | I mean it guys, get along |
| 03:49.17 | Stylpe | I hope everyone will behave |
| 03:50.36 | Rowne | I'm going to be on the best behaviour, just you watch. |
| 03:52.52 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 04:09.40 | Rowne | Aiee? |
| 04:11.00 | Tain | Rowne, gonna release a new version of Visor this weekend provided no new issues come up during testing. Using space as the command delimiter. |
| 04:12.12 | Rowne | Yay! |
| 04:12.17 | Rowne | I was hoping someone would pick up Visor. |
| 04:12.21 | Rowne | If you need -any- help, at all. |
| 04:12.22 | Rowne | Just ask. |
| 04:13.56 | Tain | I was thinking about a couple things, one being pursuing whether or not it would be worth it to try to merge some of the modularity back together if this multiple files adding lots of overhead really is a big issue. |
| 04:16.29 | Tain | For now though I'm off to dream of ... things. |
| 04:17.18 | Rowne | G'night Tain. |
| 04:18.02 | Cairenn | night Tain |
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| 04:23.12 | Tem | rawr! |
| 04:23.27 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 04:27.52 | Tem | Cairenn: I think this WoWI channel might be just the trick |
| 04:28.07 | Cairenn | *pats herself on the back* |
| 04:28.14 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:28.18 | Tem | three cheers for having a civil conversation with someone who I would normally need to resist the urge to flame |
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| 04:34.59 | Tem | who is this "Mugendai" person |
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| 04:36.38 | Cairenn | Tem: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=15207 |
| 04:40.22 | Cody | Tem: As Cair's page mentions, he the guy behind MCom, which seems to be sorta kinda the cosmos version of Ace - ie, a framework to handle data storage, configuration, and slash commands... Or so it appears from a glance at synopsis of the mod. I haven't had a chance to look at it. |
| 04:40.40 | Cody | s/he the/he seems to be the/ |
| 04:41.06 | Tem | I'm getting a saien-like vibe from them |
| 04:41.09 | Tem | and I don't like it |
| 04:41.45 | Cody | I dunno, the comments I saw from him didn't seem too bad. |
| 04:42.12 | Cody | He *did* say that he didn't see the point of Ace when you could use MCom, but WTH, you expect that kinda thing from a mod author. |
| 04:42.39 | Tem | It's the way he is talking down to Gello |
| 04:42.45 | Tem | I have a lot of respect for gello |
| 04:42.56 | Cody | Hmm, which thread? |
| 04:43.04 | Tem | the drama thread |
| 04:45.32 | Tem | I think I just soiled my pants |
| 04:45.38 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:45.48 | Cairenn | now, tell me who's your momma |
| 04:45.50 | Tem | I didn't see that coming it all |
| 04:46.02 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:48.09 | Tem | well that was strange |
| 04:48.29 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.35 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.54 | Cair_wow | he can't stand the signal to noise ratio |
| 04:49.20 | Tem | so how does he tollerate the WoW Forums |
| 04:51.20 | Cair_wow | he only pays attention to threads with his name or "blue" in them, or ones that get pointed out to him specifically |
| 04:51.38 | weab | i would very pointedly ignore the threads that say blue in them |
| 04:51.42 | Tem | me too |
| 04:51.56 | weab | that annoys me, people thinking their thread is more important than all the others |
| 04:53.52 | Tain | Well my threads are more important. |
| 04:54.22 | Tem | the only time I put (slouken) in my threads is when I'm either reporting a bug, or asking a question that only he is going to be able to answer |
| 04:55.48 | Tem | I wonder how the cosmos people would respond to me joining in their channel, to ask them what failed about Sky |
| 04:56.09 | Tem | I really don't know much about it excluding that it was a fabulous failure |
| 04:57.25 | Cair_wow | if you were courteous about it, they probably wouldn't mind at all ... if you are courteous about it and he doesn't mind, go ahead and ask it in the WoWI channel |
| 04:58.15 | Cair_wow | they really aren't the assholes you guys tend to think they are, and vice versa |
| 05:00.55 | Cair_wow | want me to break the ice for you? |
| 05:01.16 | Parak | I think there's more worry about non-"normal" people being asses and causing them to stop coming |
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| 05:02.29 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 05:02.52 | Cair_wow | hey Kael! |
| 05:02.53 | Kaelten | lol, hi Parak, nice to meet you. |
| 05:02.55 | Kaelten | hey Cair! |
| 05:03.20 | Kaelten | I'll say this much Bronchitis sucks! |
| 05:03.30 | Cair_wow | I TOLD you! |
| 05:03.38 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:03.42 | Tem | zomg! |
| 05:03.48 | Tem | the dead arize |
| 05:03.53 | Kaelten | well two days on a z-pack and some awesome Narcotics really help |
| 05:03.58 | Cairenn | I told you *repeatedly* |
| 05:03.58 | Tem | I don't know how to spell |
| 05:04.12 | Cairenn | but did you listen to me? noooooooo |
| 05:04.35 | Kaelten | hehe hi tem |
| 05:04.41 | Kaelten | I did eventually Cair. |
| 05:04.47 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 05:04.55 | Kaelten | ok this thread in the ui forums, is making me laugh |
| 05:04.58 | Cairenn | I told you it was frigging deep in your chest and well settled and that I couldn't deal with it all for you and that you needed to go see a doctor |
| 05:05.18 | Kaelten | saw him he said it wasn't pneumonia and that here is some medicine |
| 05:05.34 | Cairenn | but do you go as soon as you get home? noooo, you wait 2 fucking weeks, so it gets worse |
| 05:05.52 | Kaelten | oh has anyone upgraded to the beta for FF? do you have to uninstall the old? |
| 05:05.59 | Cairenn | you're lucky it *didn't* turn into pneumonia, moron |
| 05:06.08 | Tem | ~emulate stewie |
| 05:06.10 | purl | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 05:06.20 | Cairenn | ~whaleslap Kaelten |
| 05:06.22 | purl | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Kaelten over the head with it..... |
| 05:07.02 | Kaelten | err... maybe I should run away lol |
| 05:07.27 | Cairenn | no, you need to get your ass in the WoWI channel |
| 05:07.58 | Kaelten | err, where is it at? |
| 05:08.03 | Cairenn | ... |
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| 05:08.36 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 05:08.39 | Kaelten | I'll go look babe |
| 05:08.52 | Cairenn | you do that ... |
| 05:09.24 | Tem | so Kaelten, how have you been (excluding the apparent sustances that took residence in your lungs) |
| 05:10.14 | Kaelten | hmm lets see, got a new GF, which has taken up time, went to blizzcon, more time, having my 1 college class kick my ass (damn marketing), working 40ish hours a week. |
| 05:10.39 | Kaelten | about to have my ass handed to me in evolution5 as well.... |
| 05:11.04 | Tem | so, awesome |
| 05:11.08 | Kaelten | oh ya, getting a divorce, my step-daughter got picked up a week or two ago. |
| 05:11.09 | Tem | great |
| 05:11.16 | Kaelten | a week actually |
| 05:11.16 | Tem | picked up? |
| 05:11.22 | Tem | meaning arrested? |
| 05:11.24 | Kaelten | ya her mom came and took her away to texas |
| 05:11.30 | Tem | oh |
| 05:11.39 | Tem | well how did you feel about her? |
| 05:11.50 | Kaelten | shes a daughter to me, I'm the only dad she has. |
| 05:11.55 | Cairenn | :( |
| 05:12.03 | Cairenn | so the bitch didn't relent, huh? |
| 05:12.35 | Kaelten | nope |
| 05:12.41 | Tem | aww |
| 05:12.44 | Kaelten | although she did say she'll sign the papers, I hope they come in soon. |
| 05:14.25 | Kaelten | so has anyone heard much from Turan, he's been MIA on IM's lately. |
| 05:15.02 | weab | someone said he was back earlier i thought |
| 05:15.06 | weab | perhaps it was a hoax |
| 05:15.07 | Tem | hmm, yes I never though of stalking him via IMs |
| 05:15.17 | Tem | he did make a post earlier today |
| 05:15.28 | Tem | but he hasn't been in here since the 14 of october |
| 05:15.34 | Tem | (or so says my irc logs) |
| 05:16.28 | Kaelten | ya, I know he was looking at a new job, which between that and school will eat up most of his time. |
| 05:16.41 | Kaelten | I saw the post from earlier today, was good to see him lurking about. |
| 05:17.26 | Kaelten | No but if he gives me the word I'll take over Ace and make sure it doesn't die. I plan to be able to offer more time to coding soon, just things have been ever hectic around my real life. |
| 05:19.46 | Tem | oh speaking of projects |
| 05:20.13 | Tem | Kaelten: when Turan finishes Ace 0.103, I want to rewrite the tooltip hooker for KCI |
| 05:20.24 | Cairenn | btw Tem, you didn't respond on whether or not you wanted me to break the ice for you with Karl about asking him your question |
| 05:21.02 | Tem | I missed you saying that |
| 05:21.15 | Tem | aha |
| 05:21.30 | Tem | I was reading web-pages when you said that |
| 05:21.50 | Cairenn | and? |
| 05:22.20 | Tem | it was more a thought |
| 05:22.38 | Tem | it is something I'd like to do, but Satellite isn't at the front of my list of stuff to do atm |
| 05:23.33 | Kaelten | whats up about TooltipHooker Tem? |
| 05:23.43 | Cairenn | okay, so I won't say anything then |
| 05:23.52 | Tem | I came up with a really really clean way to do that stuff in ItemCompare |
| 05:23.55 | Tem | and I wanna do it again |
| 05:24.10 | Kaelten | sorry compsing a lengthy response to the forum post on the official forums |
| 05:24.20 | Tem | oh dear |
| 05:24.21 | Kaelten | hmm? what way is that? |
| 05:24.30 | Tem | lemme find a link |
| 05:25.05 | Kaelten | As being the 'official' response I'm doing my best to calm everything down express some opinions and being as nice as possible. |
| 05:25.17 | Tem | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/file/trunk/ItemCompare/ItemCompare.lua |
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| 05:26.14 | Kaelten | are a lot of people using opensvn for their projects now? |
| 05:26.15 | Tem | the parts that matter are the table in my definition "TooltipMethods" and my "HookTooltip" method |
| 05:26.19 | Tem | yeah |
| 05:26.27 | Tem | it's really sweet |
| 05:27.02 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 05:27.20 | Kaelten | well I spoke with Kergoth about it once, but if a lot of our devs are doing that then we may want svn.wowace.com |
| 05:27.32 | Kaelten | what you guys think? |
| 05:27.33 | Tem | that would be awesome |
| 05:28.00 | Tem | the first thing we could do is recompile trac to have syntax highlighting for lua |
| 05:28.03 | Kaelten | arg I hate the for k,v convention. |
| 05:28.10 | Kaelten | that would be nice. |
| 05:29.03 | Kaelten | hmm looks like a neat setup all in all. |
| 05:30.12 | Kaelten | now thing is though is that the functions that I had to write aren't 100% identical. |
| 05:30.24 | Tem | why? |
| 05:30.33 | Tem | aren't you just processing based on itemID |
| 05:30.44 | Kaelten | not exactly. |
| 05:30.51 | Kaelten | I also need to know the qty |
| 05:31.14 | Kaelten | it still might be possible. |
| 05:31.27 | Tem | that could be included in the TooltipMethods table |
| 05:31.42 | Kaelten | so #1 question I've been meaning to ask Turan is why did he number it 0.103? |
| 05:32.12 | Tem | 1.02 -> 1.03 |
| 05:32.23 | Kaelten | ah, I Think. |
| 05:32.23 | Tem | 0.103 would be the beta number for that |
| 05:32.35 | Kaelten | ah, I guess that makes sense. |
| 05:32.38 | Tem | according to blizzard numbering scheme |
| 05:32.41 | Kaelten | here is one function |
| 05:32.42 | Kaelten | function KC_ItemsTooltipHooker:GameTooltip_SetLootItem(slot) |
| 05:32.42 | Kaelten | self:CallHook(GameTooltip, "SetLootItem", slot); |
| 05:32.42 | Kaelten | local link, qty; |
| 05:32.42 | Kaelten | link = GetLootSlotLink(slot); |
| 05:32.42 | Kaelten | _, _, qty = GetLootSlotInfo(slot) |
| 05:32.44 | Kaelten | self._itemEntered = TRUE; |
| 05:32.46 | Kaelten | self:DisplayTooltipPrice(GameTooltip, link, qty); |
| 05:32.48 | Kaelten | end |
| 05:33.33 | Kaelten | but here is the guts for the next one down. |
| 05:33.34 | Kaelten | local link, qty; |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten | |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten | if (type) then |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten | link = GetInventoryItemLink(type, slot); |
| 05:33.35 | Kaelten | qty = GetInventoryItemCount(type, slot); |
| 05:33.36 | Kaelten | if (link and qty == 0) then qty = 1; end |
| 05:33.38 | Kaelten | else |
| 05:33.40 | Kaelten | link = GetContainerItemLink(BANK_CONTAINER, this:GetID()); |
| 05:33.41 | Parak | tooltiphooker...*snickers uncontrollably* |
| 05:33.42 | Kaelten | _, qty = GetContainerItemInfo(BANK_CONTAINER, this:GetID()); |
| 05:33.42 | Tem | oh the spam! |
| 05:33.44 | Kaelten | if (link and qty == 0) then qty = 1; end |
| 05:33.46 | Kaelten | end |
| 05:33.52 | Kaelten | sorry Tem |
| 05:34.05 | Kaelten | hehe, I'm just not sure how to standardize them all. |
| 05:34.28 | Tem | there has to be a way |
| 05:34.33 | Tem | there is always a way |
| 05:34.44 | Kaelten | might be able to standardize some of them though |
| 05:34.49 | Tem | oh, and I have a slight bug report |
| 05:35.11 | Tem | when using the seperated tooltip, you sometimes call GameTooltip:SetWidth |
| 05:35.20 | Tem | this is bad, because it doesn't clear for later |
| 05:35.28 | Tem | it forces the tooltip to use that width always |
| 05:35.43 | Kaelten | well the idea was to make the two tooltips be the same width.... |
| 05:35.44 | Tem | so often times you get a tooltip that's really wide |
| 05:35.52 | Kaelten | hmm it used to clear out. |
| 05:35.58 | Tem | I haven't figured out a way to get around it |
| 05:36.06 | Tem | but I'm 99% that's what's causing it |
| 05:37.58 | Tem | (that just came to me today while I was in the middle of an anthropology test |
| 05:38.01 | Tem | ) |
| 05:38.15 | Tem | (yes I have brainstorms at the worst possible times) |
| 05:38.17 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:38.57 | Tem | Cair: he brought it up |
| 05:39.23 | Cairenn | I know |
| 05:39.26 | Kaelten | seems like everything has gotten kinda decentralized |
| 05:39.27 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 05:40.01 | Kaelten | hey tem, I pasted up the functions that you're wanting to standardize |
| 05:40.20 | Tem | cool |
| 05:43.19 | Tem | well I have a way to standardize them |
| 05:43.28 | Tem | but I'm afraid it might not be worth it |
| 05:48.17 | Tem | Oh, I've always wondered: why don't you have an option to use the normal money graphics? |
| 05:48.42 | Tem | I've never been fond of "Xg Ys Zc" approach |
| 05:50.32 | Kaelten | well there is only 1 of them on the tooltip by default |
| 05:50.54 | Kaelten | so I'd have to add the xml to add them or create my own tooltip with them on there. |
| 05:52.02 | Tem | oh |
| 05:52.07 | Tem | well that's a bitch |
| 05:53.55 | Kaelten | yep |
| 05:54.13 | Kaelten | Its nasty, I've looked at wowecon's and auctioneer's implementation and I don't wanna |
| 05:55.40 | Tem | well theoretically you could do it with some creative setparenting |
| 05:55.49 | Tem | Actually I think it wouldn't be that bad |
| 05:56.18 | Kaelten | positioning would probably be the worse part |
| 05:56.53 | Cairenn | err, nm |
| 05:57.04 | Kaelten | ok Cair I'm going to teach you how to code so you can position the MoneyFrames for me |
| 06:01.13 | Tem | nah |
| 06:01.17 | Tem | hack up a template for them |
| 06:01.29 | Kaelten | ? |
| 06:01.30 | Tem | then you just leave them be unless called for |
| 06:01.48 | Tem | I really think it would be somewhat easy (but I've never messed with them so I could be wrong) |
| 06:14.05 | Kaelten | night everyone |
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| 08:02.06 | Tem | ok I'm out |
| 08:02.12 | Tem | at least until I can't sleep and come back |
| 08:02.15 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 08:04.05 | Tem_try_zzz | Btw Cair, if I didn't tell you before, thanks for making that channel |
| 08:04.23 | Cairenn | You're welcome. :) |
| 08:04.35 | Tem_try_zzz | it's a Good Thing |
| 08:04.36 | Cairenn | I *hope* that it'll help the community at large |
| 08:04.44 | Cairenn | (TM) even?! |
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| 12:13.59 | RasmusKL | there we go, new version of Timex up on WoWI. |
| 12:15.31 | Industrial | :) |
| 12:15.51 | Industrial | tbh i dont use timex. I don't evne know what its for.. some addons depend on it for timing.. |
| 12:19.58 | weab | eh? |
| 12:27.45 | RasmusKL | it's basically for making timer function |
| 12:27.51 | RasmusKL | functions* |
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| 12:33.51 | RasmusKL | now i just need to finish up my current version of AceTimer |
| 12:33.54 | RasmusKL | so i can put it up |
| 12:34.08 | RasmusKL | but always so many new ideas, never a complete new version ready :-/ |
| 12:34.14 | RasmusKL | sig |
| 12:34.17 | RasmusKL | sigh* |
| 12:47.54 | Industrial | hehe |
| 12:47.57 | Industrial | kergoth has that too |
| 12:48.04 | Industrial | i believe he hasnt released one addon :P |
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| 13:50.14 | Industrial | http://www.darkwired.org/~drakonen/troep/euro%20-%20english |
| 15:21.11 | Industrial | you guys need to pick a local server :| |
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| 15:27.35 | Industrial | Tain: pick a local server man! |
| 15:27.36 | Industrial | :P |
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| 16:44.17 | Industrial | ~today |
| 16:44.18 | purl | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 16:44.19 | Industrial | ... |
| 16:44.21 | Industrial | FRIDAY! |
| 16:44.23 | Industrial | :D |
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| 16:46.42 | Industrial | RasmusKL: pm |
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| 17:52.37 | Randor | g'morning cair |
| 17:52.46 | Cairenn | morning |
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| 18:04.10 | Industrial | Randor: pm |
| 18:04.20 | Randor | seen |
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| 18:54.08 | Tem | morning |
| 18:54.35 | Industrial | morning |
| 18:54.37 | Tain | ~mornings |
| 18:54.39 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:54.42 | Industrial | http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ |
| 18:54.44 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:03.19 | Industrial | lmao http://whatthefuckisthiscar.ytmnd.com/ |
| 19:10.12 | Industrial | http://epicwowmount.ytmnd.com/ |
| 19:10.13 | Industrial | :D |
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| 19:47.16 | Industrial | http://yearoftheowl.ytmnd.com/ |
| 19:47.17 | Industrial | haha |
| 19:47.18 | Industrial | :D |
| 19:47.52 | Randor | lol |
| 19:53.03 | Industrial | http://classicsnoop.ytmnd.com/ |
| 19:53.03 | Industrial | :D |
| 19:53.13 | Industrial | pop it like tis hot |
| 19:59.21 | RasmusKL | wee, got Nefarian to 39% |
| 20:10.50 | Randor | hm.. somebody an idea when kergoth will be *available* again? |
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| 20:11.49 | cladhaire | Evening all |
| 20:11.56 | Randor | hi clad |
| 20:13.20 | Cairenn | hey Clad |
| 20:13.34 | Cairenn | Randor: when his girlfriend goes home again |
| 20:14.16 | Randor | cair, i was afraid of such an answer... |
| 20:14.20 | Tain | Until then don't expect to see him leave the bedroom much. ;) |
| 20:14.27 | Randor | girlfriends tend to have their own timesystems.. |
| 20:14.39 | cladhaire | Anyone know if there's an easy way to clear out my AceDatabase for my addOn? |
| 20:15.17 | Tem | db:reset? |
| 20:15.19 | Tain | There is a built in reset function |
| 20:15.26 | Cairenn | cladhaire: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2374 in case you haven't already seen it |
| 20:15.29 | Tem | db:reset()* |
| 20:15.30 | cladhaire | that's what i was looking for =) |
| 20:15.34 | Cairenn | (unrelated note) |
| 20:15.59 | cladhaire | Cair: woot! |
| 20:16.01 | Tem | oh and another unrelated note: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11151#post11151 |
| 20:16.26 | Tem | (the second post is me) |
| 20:16.29 | cladhaire | Tem: I saw it in your screenshot today. |
| 20:16.34 | cladhaire | LOVED it |
| 20:19.04 | Tem | hehe |
| 20:19.33 | Industrial | url? :D |
| 20:20.52 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11151#post11151 |
| 20:20.56 | Tem | the second post |
| 20:21.11 | Tem | or here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=261921&p=1&tmp=1#post261921 |
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| 20:42.49 | Industrial | I want to use AceGUI but i have no idea how |
| 20:42.55 | Industrial | o wait ill go take a look at acemigos |
| 20:43.00 | Industrial | because it is small |
| 20:43.08 | Industrial | and prolly readable |
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| 20:55.35 | Industrial | kaelten! |
| 20:55.40 | Industrial | before anyone says anything |
| 20:55.47 | Industrial | *fetches url* |
| 20:56.14 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=477 |
| 20:56.20 | Industrial | bumped it like 3 times already |
| 20:56.53 | Kaelten | Industrial! |
| 20:57.46 | Industrial | best idea ever |
| 20:57.46 | Industrial | ;x |
| 20:57.47 | Kaelten | nice idea |
| 20:58.40 | Kaelten | hmm... wonder how easy/hard it would be to do. |
| 20:58.53 | Industrial | unfortunately i dont know lua yet |
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| 21:09.06 | Tain | So when hooking another object's function with Ace does it call my hook function first, or the original function first? |
| 21:09.15 | Tain | And can I get my function to run after the original? |
| 21:09.30 | Tem_errands | it calls yours first |
| 21:09.39 | Tem_errands | no |
| 21:09.45 | Kaelten | no tem it can be done. |
| 21:09.46 | Tem_errands | it calls yours *instead* |
| 21:09.47 | Tain | That is not the answer I'm looking for! |
| 21:10.12 | Kaelten | It calls yours first, then you can callhook at the beginning before yours runs to make the orgininal run 'first' |
| 21:10.14 | Tem_errands | however, if you do a "self:CallHook" at the beginging of your funcgion |
| 21:10.24 | Kaelten | ha beat you to it! |
| 21:10.25 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:10.33 | Tain | Oh |
| 21:10.34 | Tain | right |
| 21:10.38 | Tain | That's ... simple. |
| 21:10.41 | Tem_errands | well my point is that the Ace won't called the hooked function at all unless you tell it to |
| 21:10.51 | Kaelten | thats true |
| 21:10.51 | Tain | Yeah I know that'. |
| 21:10.55 | Tem_errands | which is way more powerful than Sea's function hooking |
| 21:11.01 | Tain | I just wanted to make sure mine runs after. |
| 21:11.03 | Tain | Which I can do that way. |
| 21:11.09 | Kaelten | now if you tell ace to not call the original you can still use CallHook and it will never call the original |
| 21:11.29 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 21:12.07 | Kaelten | but other hooks would still be called. |
| 21:12.28 | Tain | As long as mine comes after the Blizzard one the other hooks can hook all they like. |
| 21:13.06 | Tem_errands | Kaelten: that's an undocumented feature |
| 21:13.16 | Tem_errands | that turan wants to remove |
| 21:13.25 | Tem_errands | it's only still in because you used it |
| 21:13.30 | Tem_errands | silly KCET |
| 21:13.35 | Kaelten | hehe. |
| 21:13.36 | Tain | Not letting other hooks run? |
| 21:13.51 | Kaelten | well I think its a valid thing |
| 21:14.12 | Kaelten | I don't want to break other addons that want to hook into things, but I don't need the original to run. |
| 21:14.47 | Kaelten | Tem are you actually on errands or are you back now? |
| 21:14.57 | Tem_errands | well.. I'm supposed to be on errands |
| 21:15.00 | Tem_errands | I just never left |
| 21:15.09 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:15.44 | Kaelten | what do you think about the criticism the ace team was getting in that thread on the official forums? |
| 21:16.04 | Tem_errands | I think it's childish |
| 21:16.17 | Tem_errands | someone got their feelings hurt and never got over it |
| 21:16.30 | Tain | I won that thread. |
| 21:16.49 | Kaelten | no real way to win in a thread like that Tain. |
| 21:16.57 | Tain | I declared myself the winner. |
| 21:17.08 | Kaelten | ya but your i.w.o.n button broke. |
| 21:17.08 | Tain | There's really no arguing after that. |
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| 21:18.01 | Tain | I was just looking through Sea since I never have. |
| 21:18.10 | Kaelten | ya it causes me pain to. |
| 21:18.19 | Tain | "-- Fixes nils with empty strings" |
| 21:18.31 | Kaelten | I can't get over how they have a few dozen functions that basically do the same thing |
| 21:18.39 | Kaelten | instead of having optional arguments |
| 21:18.40 | Tain | "-- Fixes nils with 0s" |
| 21:19.04 | Tain | nils have... a purpose. They're not empty strings or zeros. |
| 21:19.27 | MoonWolf | nil, otherwise known as null and void. empty nothing there NOTHING |
| 21:26.23 | Kaelten | Tem, you know enough about opensvn to setup a server for it? |
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| 22:03.55 | Tem | Kael-Playing: no I don't know enough about svn to set up a server |
| 22:04.02 | Tem | however, kergoth does |
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