| 00:00.06 | Tem | "Tem will find a workaround. I have faith" |
| 00:00.30 | Tem | Cair, what happened to Abraha? |
| 00:00.32 | Tem | I'm lost |
| 00:00.53 | Cair | Random told him off, over at Curse |
| 00:01.03 | Cair | on your behalf |
| 00:01.06 | Tem | for what? |
| 00:01.08 | Tem | huh? |
| 00:01.14 | Tem | where? |
| 00:01.25 | Cair | sec |
| 00:01.42 | Tem | Did I spawn drama and not even know it? |
| 00:01.45 | Cair | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2260 |
| 00:01.47 | Cair | yup, you did |
| 00:02.54 | Tain | He also attacked Dsanai over the AuctionFilterPlus addon in the UI & Macros official forums. |
| 00:03.09 | Cair | yup, he did |
| 00:03.41 | Cair | but, from other things he's posted, I don't think he's actually a bad guy |
| 00:03.56 | Cair | just, needs to think a bit better about what he is posting and how it comes across |
| 00:04.20 | Cair | meh, I like to believe that most people are actually pretty decent |
| 00:04.42 | Tem | Cair, I nearly always give people the benefit of the doubt |
| 00:05.23 | Cair | anyway, time to go turn my daughter back into a goth |
| 00:05.45 | Tem | huh? |
| 00:06.09 | Cair | heh |
| 00:06.14 | ToastTheif | it wasen't only Tem and DSanai he attacked |
| 00:06.20 | ToastTheif | Iriel and Cide too =/ |
| 00:06.40 | Cair | she has the most beautiful honey brown hair ... I have to re-dye it black, the old dye is coming out now |
| 00:06.56 | Tem | Cair, why would you do that? |
| 00:06.58 | Tain | He's been helpful sometimes, but the manner in which he turns on people is too much to be offset, to me. |
| 00:06.59 | ToastTheif | why dye beautiful brow hair black? lol |
| 00:07.08 | Tain | Crazy kids. |
| 00:08.11 | ToastTheif | I did it for all of you Abahra victims, Tem |
| 00:08.13 | ToastTheif | =P |
| 00:08.21 | ToastTheif | I just couldn't take him anymore |
| 00:08.28 | Tem | I really wasn't offended by him |
| 00:08.54 | Tem | It takes a real asshat like Gryphon to anger me |
| 00:09.04 | ToastTheif | Well, he's gone off on enough people, Cide, you, Iriel, and DSanai are the recent ppl |
| 00:09.10 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 00:09.21 | ToastTheif | Gryphon is just ignorant ;) |
| 00:09.29 | Tem | I haven't seen anything with Cide, Iriel or DSanai |
| 00:09.45 | ToastTheif | Cide and Iriel were both about the mail thing u did |
| 00:09.53 | Tem | Tem boggles |
| 00:10.05 | ToastTheif | and DSanai was about AuctionFilterPlus |
| 00:10.11 | Cair | sorry, door, anyway, she's goth these days (bout a year now), so black hair |
| 00:10.28 | Tem | And you put up with that? |
| 00:10.40 | Cair | me? hell yes, why not? |
| 00:10.40 | Tem | How old is your daughter? |
| 00:10.45 | Cair | almost 18 |
| 00:10.50 | Tem | eh |
| 00:11.01 | Tem | I woulda slapped it out of her at 17 |
| 00:11.05 | Tem | but almost 18... |
| 00:11.08 | Cair | it's hair dye |
| 00:11.13 | Tem | she can make her own dumb decisions |
| 00:11.30 | Cair | it's not like we're talking about tattooes or anything :p |
| 00:11.41 | Tem | heh |
| 00:11.50 | ToastTheif | gah |
| 00:11.59 | Tem | I dislike the entire "goth" thing |
| 00:12.01 | ToastTheif | People where I live *hate* goth people |
| 00:12.04 | ToastTheif | I don't know why |
| 00:12.10 | Cair | she isn't massively goth |
| 00:12.17 | Cair | she just likes having black hair |
| 00:12.23 | Tem | but that is largly influenced by the south park "goth" I think |
| 00:12.46 | Cair | that's fine, it's hair, the dye grows out, the hair grows back if she cuts it, whatever, it doesn't matter |
| 00:12.47 | ToastTheif | There are these 2 really hot "goth" girls in my school |
| 00:12.50 | Cair | anyway, gotta go |
| 00:12.56 | Tem | Oh I don't guess you watch SP in Canada... they make fun of you guys a lot... |
| 00:13.02 | Tem | Bye Cair |
| 00:13.06 | ToastTheif | I just stare at em |
| 00:13.16 | Tem | lol |
| 00:13.21 | ToastTheif | like :O |
| 00:13.41 | ToastTheif | one of em wears like the catholic school girl goth look |
| 00:13.53 | Tem | haha |
| 00:13.56 | ToastTheif | and the other just, wel *wow* |
| 00:14.02 | ToastTheif | well* |
| 00:14.16 | Tem | !seen rowne |
| 00:14.23 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 3h 5m 52s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 00:14.26 | ToastTheif | and that brings me to the 2 german girls I interviewed yesterday in 4th hr... |
| 00:14.36 | ToastTheif | Oh Em Gee |
| 00:14.43 | ToastTheif | that's all I need to say |
| 00:14.47 | Tem | Zoh Em Gee? |
| 00:15.03 | Tem | !emulate me |
| 00:15.04 | purl | ZOMG! I've found 5,273 ways to break Warcraft now. Slooouuken? |
| 00:15.13 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 00:15.26 | ToastTheif | mhmm |
| 00:15.51 | ToastTheif | but I don't understand what people have against people that are different, like goths and gays |
| 00:16.04 | ToastTheif | I defend them when people shoot em down |
| 00:16.19 | ToastTheif | and then they go at me and I do what I do best ;) |
| 00:16.24 | ToastTheif | shut them the hell up |
| 00:17.57 | Tem | The only thing I have against goths is prejudice |
| 00:17.57 | ToastTheif | religious arguments are always good though, I remember me and a friend went at it with another kid *all* semester in 10th grade |
| 00:18.20 | ToastTheif | those arguments never end ;) |
| 00:18.27 | Tem | and I really don't have anything against gays unless they make a pass at me. In that case I hate them. |
| 00:18.35 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 00:18.45 | ToastTheif | I've had one gay do that to me |
| 00:18.54 | ToastTheif | I just shrugged it off |
| 00:19.09 | Tem | I don't much care for flaming gays either... They are just annoying |
| 00:19.13 | ToastTheif | I dunno, it kinda freaks me out, but I don't have anything against em |
| 00:19.31 | Tem | I'm sorry, but do you really have to talk like that? |
| 00:19.47 | ToastTheif | me? |
| 00:19.53 | Tem | No |
| 00:19.57 | ToastTheif | oh lol |
| 00:20.00 | Tem | hypothetical flaming gay |
| 00:20.07 | ToastTheif | yeah |
| 00:20.25 | Tem | Although, last semester this really gay black guy lived in my dorm |
| 00:20.38 | Tem | he had the talk, the walk, and all that comes with it.. |
| 00:20.40 | ToastTheif | people say I do a good impression of a "gay voice" |
| 00:20.40 | ToastTheif | =P |
| 00:21.00 | Tem | The last time I heard him talk... I laughed my ass off |
| 00:21.15 | Tem | He was telling a story about being on Bourbon Street |
| 00:21.26 | Tem | it was so funny I nearly pissed myself |
| 00:22.49 | ToastTheif | hah |
| 00:22.57 | ToastTheif | I remember at a summer camp I went to |
| 00:23.05 | ToastTheif | there was a gay black kid, they are just weird |
| 00:32.21 | Cair | back |
| 00:35.12 | Cair | man, guys are so frigging uptight |
| 00:35.32 | Cair | a gay girl grabs my ass, I feel complimented that someone finds me attractive enough to do so |
| 00:38.11 | ToastTheif | hey like I said, I just shurgged it off |
| 00:38.25 | ToastTheif | and personally, I think it really is different with girls than guys |
| 00:38.31 | Tem | I agree |
| 00:38.34 | ToastTheif | girls seem more comfortable with it |
| 00:39.15 | Tem | If a gay guy comes on to a straight guy, the straight guy wonders what he did to make the gay think that he is gay |
| 00:39.22 | ToastTheif | and not to mention, girls are like, natuaral and so beautiful, guys, are just bleh so when 2 of em get together it's double bleh |
| 00:40.32 | ToastTheif | a women's body is just like all *whoa* curves in the righ places and what not, but men are like not good looking at all, and just no... |
| 00:40.42 | ToastTheif | so men = double bleh |
| 00:40.55 | Cair | but that's rather a matter of perspective, isn't it Random? |
| 00:41.08 | Cair | to a gay guy, or a straight girl, guys are good looking |
| 00:41.18 | ToastTheif | well |
| 00:41.27 | ToastTheif | I will admit, there are some good looking guys |
| 00:41.46 | ToastTheif | and it might be perspective, but I really think there is /something/ that makes a difference |
| 00:41.56 | ToastTheif | I can't quite put my finger on it... |
| 00:42.08 | ToastTheif | there's just something different about women |
| 00:42.29 | Cair | girls are a lot more comfortable with their own sexuality and thus don't object the same way when another female comes on to them (in general) |
| 00:42.30 | ToastTheif | to me, it almost seems natural that two girls might hook up |
| 00:42.39 | Tain | Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. |
| 00:42.44 | ToastTheif | lol Tain |
| 00:43.01 | ToastTheif | nothing like that, Tain =P |
| 00:43.08 | kergoth | haha. yay kindergarten cop |
| 00:43.10 | Tain | :D |
| 00:43.26 | ToastTheif | Im perfectly comfortable with my sexuality, it just seems different I tell ya |
| 00:43.44 | ToastTheif | I don't mean to sound like those guys that say things like "ROCK ON TWO GIRLS MAKING OUT!!!!" |
| 00:43.49 | Tem | kergoth went to work? |
| 00:43.55 | kergoth | me? work? are you kidding? |
| 00:43.56 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:43.59 | kergoth | naw, went to the store |
| 00:44.06 | Tem | ... |
| 00:44.13 | ToastTheif | heh Ker |
| 00:44.13 | Tem | well I finished KoD last night |
| 00:44.19 | Tem | damn good book |
| 00:44.38 | ToastTheif | I need to find a good book |
| 00:44.39 | Tem | The epilogue |
| 00:44.41 | Tem | wow.. |
| 00:44.45 | ToastTheif | the last thing I read was Harry Potter |
| 00:45.02 | Tem | So I guess we now know that Taim is a darkfriend |
| 00:45.06 | cladhaire | Wow.. the things I miss when I go away in ##ace :P |
| 00:45.09 | *** join/##ace Norque (n=Mickachu@073.a.001.dub.iprimus.net.au) |
| 00:45.09 | ToastTheif | and the besides that, the last good thing I read was the Torrow series |
| 00:45.24 | ToastTheif | tomorrow* |
| 00:45.25 | Norque | hi everyone |
| 00:45.39 | kergoth | Tem: yeah, it was awesome. i'd say its one of my favorites in the series so far. |
| 00:45.44 | Cair | hi Norque |
| 00:45.53 | ToastTheif | Tomorrow, When the War Began |
| 00:45.53 | ToastTheif | by John Marsden |
| 00:45.54 | Tem | Funny part is I think I enjoyed the part with Egwene the most |
| 00:45.57 | ToastTheif | to be specific |
| 00:46.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:46.02 | Cair | Clad, this channel tends to get rather ... interesting ... in the evenings ;) |
| 00:46.12 | Tem | At least Mat finally got married |
| 00:46.13 | kergoth | thats one way to put it |
| 00:46.29 | kergoth | Tem: hehe. i love the expression on her people's faces when she finally says it |
| 00:46.32 | kergoth | its just great |
| 00:46.37 | Tem | yeah |
| 00:46.49 | Tem | I was very disappointed with the capture of Semi |
| 00:46.54 | Tem | it just felt rushed |
| 00:47.15 | cladhaire | Cair: Well make sure it gets crazy.. cause I've gotta run to dinner. |
| 00:47.21 | cladhaire | I'll be back in a bit. |
| 00:47.22 | kergoth | i agree. and considering everything that happened, it shouldve been one of the most important moments in the book |
| 00:47.23 | Tem | although, I can't wait till they put her to the question. I'm interested to find out what "integration" she was talking about |
| 00:47.28 | Cair | enjoy =) |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | that said, a lot of the other moments in the book were great |
| 00:48.05 | Tem | I'm also glad that LTT in Rand's head is out in the open |
| 00:48.16 | kergoth | when that chick offers perrin her hand after that battle, that was cool |
| 00:48.18 | kergoth | yeah, agreed |
| 00:48.31 | Tem | huh? |
| 00:48.39 | Tem | I missed that |
| 00:48.55 | kergoth | after the battle between the seanchan and the shaido |
| 00:49.01 | Tem | right |
| 00:49.17 | kergoth | she shows her respect, and shakes his hand. that was cool |
| 00:49.27 | kergoth | erm, him |
| 00:49.29 | Tem | oh |
| 00:49.31 | Tem | Yeah |
| 00:49.32 | kergoth | bah, i cant type |
| 00:49.35 | kergoth | but yeah |
| 00:49.54 | Tem | Did you notice that Tylen gets raised to the low blood for that? |
| 00:50.05 | kergoth | yup :) was glad to see that |
| 00:50.08 | Tem | me too |
| 00:50.34 | kergoth | itll be really interesting to see the implications of mat's connection tot he seanchan, now that rand is trying to negotiate with them, if any |
| 00:51.01 | Tem | I saw a theory that Rand and morridin are linked because of what happened in Shador Logoth and that he channels the true power through his link with Morridin |
| 00:51.13 | Tem | which is the reason he still gets nauseated |
| 00:51.26 | Tem | And the source of the visual distortion |
| 00:51.27 | kergoth | that doesnt hold up |
| 00:51.31 | Tem | (s'ahh) |
| 00:51.36 | kergoth | taim commented on how much of the one power he was holding |
| 00:51.36 | Tem | (s'aa) |
| 00:51.44 | Tem | Logain* |
| 00:51.49 | kergoth | err, yeah, that |
| 00:51.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:51.53 | Tem | Using both |
| 00:52.11 | Tain | Oh cool, I got display to the keyboard lcd. |
| 00:52.18 | kergoth | that could be, but wouldnt logain have commented on him being able to do more with his power than he should? |
| 00:52.26 | Tem | I dunno |
| 00:52.32 | kergoth | i dunno, i think its something else, but i dunno what |
| 00:52.39 | kergoth | that battle with him and logain rocked though |
| 00:52.43 | Tem | yeah! |
| 00:52.44 | kergoth | rand's been too uncreative with the power lately |
| 00:52.46 | kergoth | :D |
| 00:52.51 | Tem | The deathgates were awesome |
| 00:52.55 | kergoth | yeah :) |
| 00:53.05 | Tem | Oh I though Semihrage was far too uncreative |
| 00:53.06 | kergoth | i love how rand showed his obvious knowledge of them via ltt, too |
| 00:53.15 | kergoth | "each time they open, they go somewhere else" or whatever |
| 00:53.31 | Tem | A fireball isn't like the "Lady of Pain" |
| 00:53.43 | Tem | I expected her to do something much more creative |
| 00:53.45 | kergoth | yeah, thats true. you'd expect her to be more subtle |
| 00:53.52 | kergoth | just drop him to his knees in agony or something |
| 00:53.59 | Tem | screw that |
| 00:54.01 | kergoth | or leave some other lasting damage |
| 00:54.04 | Tem | If she wanted to kill him |
| 00:54.15 | kergoth | and why would she want to kill him anyway? |
| 00:54.17 | Tem | There are much better ways than a fire ball |
| 00:54.21 | kergoth | they're supposed to let the lord of chaos rule |
| 00:54.30 | Tem | well that's true she was there to colar him |
| 00:54.44 | kergoth | right, if she's collaring him, why would she throw a fireball? |
| 00:54.48 | ToastTheif | so guys |
| 00:54.48 | kergoth | she shouldve attempted a linked shield |
| 00:54.51 | kergoth | at the very least |
| 00:54.54 | ToastTheif | what are some books I should check out? |
| 00:55.02 | Tem | The Eye of the World |
| 00:55.03 | kergoth | george r.r. martin's song of ice & fire series |
| 00:55.13 | kergoth | the eye of the world, definately |
| 00:55.32 | Tem | I'm sad that it will be 2 years before we get to read more though :( |
| 00:55.33 | kergoth | might like The Runelords by david farland |
| 00:55.36 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:55.56 | kergoth | the runelords has an awesome, creative form of "magic" |
| 00:56.05 | kergoth | one i've never seen used anywhere |
| 00:56.16 | ToastTheif | I don't really like thing that are like that I guess |
| 00:56.31 | kergoth | not a fan of fantasy? |
| 00:56.55 | ToastTheif | I love fantast, fantasy books just don't appeal to me though I guess |
| 00:56.58 | ToastTheif | it's weird heh |
| 00:56.58 | kergoth | what about sci fi? or .. shit.. i'm drawing a blank. whats that genre that snowcrash is in |
| 00:57.06 | Tem | Oh I read another theory that Taim would try to impersonate Rand, but he woudn't know about Rand missing a hand yet, and Logain would crush him |
| 00:57.08 | kergoth | snowcrash is awesome, btw |
| 00:57.17 | kergoth | Tem: haha, thatd be funny |
| 00:57.35 | ToastTheif | I dunno, I guess I love fantasy in games, and movies, but not in my books |
| 00:57.35 | Tain | Snowcrash would be more or less "cyberpunk". |
| 00:57.41 | kergoth | cyberpunk, thats right |
| 00:57.44 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 00:57.47 | Tain | Love that book. |
| 00:57.55 | Tem | I also read that people think Rand will switch bodies with Morridin at the last battle and kill his old body (hence to live you must die) |
| 00:57.59 | kergoth | neuromancer is quite good also, as are a number of that guys other books |
| 00:58.03 | ToastTheif | Tomorrow, When the War Began <--- tjat |
| 00:58.09 | ToastTheif | that's a series I lik |
| 00:58.11 | ToastTheif | like* |
| 00:58.15 | kergoth | or.. lets see.. |
| 00:58.19 | Tain | Another of my favorite fantasy series(es) is Black Company, by Glen Cook. |
| 00:58.23 | kergoth | Neil Gaiman has some awesome stuff |
| 00:58.35 | kergoth | neverwhere and american gods are great |
| 00:58.41 | kergoth | Tain: hmm, havent read that one |
| 00:58.46 | kergoth | will have to check it out |
| 00:58.52 | Tain | It was a series I'd never heard of, one of my friends pointed it out to me. |
| 00:59.06 | Tain | I loved them. Absolutely loved them. |
| 00:59.22 | Tain | Not a lot of magic, the magic users in the world aren't very strong. |
| 00:59.31 | kergoth | in runelords, peasants can grant an endowment to their lords. a strong worker can give his lord his strength, thereby being weak as a kitten for the rest of his life, but making the lord twice as strong |
| 00:59.31 | Tain | A lot of characters. |
| 00:59.42 | kergoth | so you've got these god-like runelords acting on behalf of their people |
| 00:59.46 | kergoth | its really quite cool |
| 01:00.01 | kergoth | Tain: cool |
| 01:00.17 | ToastTheif | rofl |
| 01:00.25 | Tain | Oh Lost is on. Everything else is done. |
| 01:00.39 | ToastTheif | one of my favorite series was cited in Great Books for Girls : More Than 600 Books to Inspire Today's Girls and Tomorrow's Women |
| 01:00.40 | ToastTheif | =/ |
| 01:00.45 | kergoth | haha |
| 01:00.48 | kergoth | what series? |
| 01:00.58 | ToastTheif | Tomorrow, When the War Began |
| 01:01.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:01.03 | kergoth | havent read that |
| 01:01.28 | ToastTheif | it's about some teenage that get caught in a war, it was really big in australia I guess |
| 01:01.53 | ToastTheif | crazy action and stuff |
| 01:02.04 | ToastTheif | but it was good |
| 01:02.10 | ToastTheif | sad book though, I liked the ending |
| 01:02.11 | Norque | i remember reading it in english... |
| 01:02.25 | ToastTheif | did you like it? |
| 01:02.41 | ToastTheif | my school library doesn't even have it =/ |
| 01:02.46 | ToastTheif | ic |
| 01:02.47 | Norque | yeah, it was pretty good, i read the second one too |
| 01:02.55 | ToastTheif | I read em all ;) |
| 01:03.05 | Norque | after that i got lazy and couldnt be bothered reading the rest |
| 01:03.18 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 01:03.28 | ToastTheif | I couldn't stop ^^ |
| 01:06.55 | Cair | oh oh oh, wait a minute ... Norque, you said you're from Australia? |
| 01:07.16 | Norque | yes, i come from the land downunder :) |
| 01:10.18 | ToastTheif | put another shrimp on teh bobby! |
| 01:10.22 | ToastTheif | ^_- |
| 01:10.38 | Cair | barby, not bobby :p |
| 01:10.53 | Norque | nah, no shrimp on my barbie... cant afford the damn things |
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| 01:11.36 | Tain | Hey I'll take shrimp on bobby, if she's cute. |
| 01:12.17 | Cair | Tain, you'd take a hole in a tree :p |
| 01:12.57 | Norque | Cair wins at life :P |
| 01:13.03 | kergoth | ow, thatd chafe |
| 01:19.38 | Tain | Does anyone know exactly what WoWPlayer reads to be able to process commands from inside the game? |
| 01:38.48 | Cair | o.O |
| 01:40.50 | Cair | >< |
| 01:44.15 | Cair | man oh man oh man, I just can not get rid of this serious case of the heebiejeebies |
| 01:44.33 | Tain | I didn't do it. |
| 01:45.01 | Cair | no, seriously, I've got all my alarm bells positively jangling and I've no idea why and I can't get them to stop |
| 01:45.57 | Tain | :/ |
| 01:45.58 | Cair | this ... person .... from the Cosmos channel has just randomly started talking to me the last few days, and it's weird |
| 01:46.11 | Cair | and I just ... *heebiejeebies* |
| 01:47.19 | Cair | I don't know why, he hasn't said anything wrong or anything, I just ... *heebiejeebies* |
| 01:47.42 | Cair | Danger Will Robinson, Danger |
| 01:51.29 | Norque | My arms are flailing wildly! |
| 01:51.47 | Cair | damnit cladhaire, get back here, I'm betting you'd understand :p |
| 01:56.53 | ToastTheif | Cair |
| 01:56.56 | Cair | yeah? |
| 01:57.02 | ToastTheif | I bet te cosmos dude is stalking u =P |
| 01:57.09 | Cair | haha |
| 01:57.23 | Cair | :p |
| 02:00.09 | Tain | What the hell? |
| 02:00.16 | Tain | Three weeks until the next new episode? |
| 02:00.18 | Tain | Damnit. |
| 02:05.37 | cladhaire | Cair: you rang? |
| 02:05.50 | Cair | not seriously, was kidding around |
| 02:07.13 | Tain | Twist those knobs, twist those knobs! |
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| 02:11.57 | Tain | I can't figure out how it works. |
| 02:16.15 | ToastTheif | well I must be off to bed |
| 02:16.25 | Cair | night Random |
| 02:20.46 | Cair | christ I'll be glad when that boy grows up some and stops making a joke of everything |
| 02:25.00 | Cair | remind me to never talk about anything I'm actually serious about when he's around |
| 02:26.46 | Tain | That might take a while. |
| 02:27.13 | Cair | yeah, well |
| 02:27.26 | Cair | I think I may just start leaving the channel whenever he's around :p |
| 02:28.12 | Norque | okay, heres a question for you code nuts... |
| 02:28.20 | Norque | ihave this line: |
| 02:28.21 | Norque | local channel = self.GetOpt("custChannelPre") or self.GetOpt("custChannel") |
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| 02:28.41 | weab | Cair: while easier said than done, far more effective to learn to not give a shit :p |
| 02:29.21 | Cair | hard not to give a shit when trying to tell people you like that you are actually seriously concerned about something and be made fun of |
| 02:29.21 | Norque | in theory if self.GetOpt("custChannelPre") returns nil, channel will be set to self.GetOpt("custChannel"), right? |
| 02:30.53 | weab | try it |
| 02:31.03 | Tem | Well, for future reference I know that I don't like Taco Bell's Mexican Pizza... |
| 02:31.09 | weab | x = nil or 3; print(x) |
| 02:31.34 | weab | returns 3 |
| 02:31.51 | Norque | well i am, and its not working, channel is always nil... |
| 02:32.40 | kergoth | then self.GetOpt("custChannel") is nil |
| 02:33.05 | Norque | but it isnt... it definatly exists |
| 02:33.14 | Norque | its got me stumped |
| 02:34.07 | kergoth | ace:print(tostring(self.GetOpt("custChannelPre"))) ace:print(tostring(self.GetOpt("custChannel"))) |
| 02:35.43 | Tain | The first episode of Zim was just on. :D |
| 02:35.53 | kergoth | yay |
| 02:35.53 | Norque | nil, norques |
| 02:36.00 | Norque | as expected |
| 02:36.20 | kergoth | ace:print(tostring(self.GetOpt("custChannelPre") or self.GetOpt("custChannel"))) |
| 02:37.57 | Norque | norques, im beginning to think the problem may lay elsewhere |
| 02:39.50 | kergoth | indeed |
| 02:40.04 | kergoth | when encountering random oddness, always check your assumptions |
| 02:43.31 | Tain | Assumption junction, what's your function? |
| 02:44.00 | Tem | Wow |
| 02:44.20 | Tem | Drawn together is ridiculous funny |
| 02:44.42 | *** join/##ace cladhaire (n=Cladhair@cpe-24-59-51-225.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 02:46.07 | Tain | It is. |
| 02:46.17 | Tain | In a fart humour sort of way. :) |
| 02:47.04 | Tain | Not that I have anything against far humour! |
| 02:49.10 | Tain | hah, "You can't spell slaughter without laughter!" |
| 02:49.28 | Tem | yeah :) |
| 02:49.53 | Tem | this new chick is evil |
| 02:50.10 | Tem | very evil... |
| 02:53.31 | Tain | Damn I really really like this new keyboard. |
| 02:53.35 | Tain | Backlit keys rules. |
| 02:53.47 | Tem | hmm |
| 02:53.54 | Tem | I like that concept |
| 02:54.06 | Tem | but I doubt they have them in the natural layout |
| 02:54.10 | Tain | Nope. |
| 02:54.37 | Tem | I almost can't type on normal keyboards anymore |
| 02:54.45 | Tem | I *love* my natural keyboard |
| 02:54.49 | Cair | "natural" layout? |
| 02:54.53 | Tain | But just look at it! |
| 02:54.54 | Tain | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2166,CONTENTID=10717 |
| 02:55.05 | Tain | I do actually like the ergonomic keyboards. |
| 02:55.21 | Tain | I used one for a long time, but I can't stand the Microsoft keyboards. |
| 02:55.36 | Cair | Logitech has one as well Tain |
| 02:56.16 | Tain | Yeah, I know there's more now. |
| 02:56.29 | Tain | I'm sort of... particular when it comes to keyboards. |
| 02:57.14 | Tain | I can't stand, "mushy" keys. |
| 02:57.21 | Tem | What do you have against MS keyboards |
| 02:57.40 | Tain | I like the hard, clicky, spring up keyboards. The old IBM keyboards. |
| 02:59.32 | Tem | Tem shrugs. I *love* my keyboard-mouse combo |
| 03:00.11 | Cair | what do you use Tem? |
| 03:00.29 | Tem | one sec finding a link to it |
| 03:01.26 | Tem | http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/product.aspx?view=22&pcid=deb7239d-c8ea-4b6e-a036-dadc1496aac7&type=ovr |
| 03:01.28 | Tain | This is my favoritist type of keyboard. |
| 03:01.29 | Tain | http://www.pckeyboard.com/customizer.html |
| 03:02.13 | Tain | The ones with actual metal springs under each key! |
| 03:02.34 | Cair | Tem, that's the same one I'm using ... I'm having to replace the batteries in my mouse once a month or better! |
| 03:02.38 | Cair | it's driving me batshit |
| 03:02.48 | Tem | ... |
| 03:02.57 | Tem | I've had it for more than a year |
| 03:03.06 | Tem | Replaced the batteries MAYBE 4 times |
| 03:03.06 | Tain | You need to use a rechargable mouse. |
| 03:03.23 | Cair | but freaking Futureshop up here can't tell me if I can use rechargeables in it or not |
| 03:03.40 | Tem | I can't see why not |
| 03:03.42 | Cair | if I could use rechargeables, it wouldn't be quite so bad |
| 03:03.56 | Tem | I really love this set... |
| 03:04.05 | Tain | This is the mouse I have. |
| 03:04.08 | Tain | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=9043 |
| 03:04.11 | Tem | A rechargeable mouse would be nice, but I'm content with this |
| 03:04.14 | Tain | The wireless base also acts as a charger. |
| 03:04.20 | Tain | I heart it. |
| 03:04.36 | Cair | but it's still annoying as all hell ... I wanted a rechargable mouse, but the salesman assured me that the batteries in this would last a good long time |
| 03:04.47 | Cair | yeah, I know, I've also got 2 of those in the house Tain |
| 03:04.54 | Tem | That's essentially the same mouse as me, but with a recharging base |
| 03:05.51 | Tain | Yeah, it's just that little bit that makes it so much more convenient. |
| 03:06.06 | Tem | I think I really like that mouse tain |
| 03:06.18 | Tem | the more I look at it... |
| 03:06.29 | Tem | It's like all the features I love in my current mouse pluse more :) |
| 03:06.41 | Cair | I just couldn't get it all in one ... a cordless ergonomic keyboard, cordless mouse with recharging stand |
| 03:06.48 | Tem | is the scroll wheel a smooth scroll or clicky scroll? |
| 03:07.10 | Tain | It's a slight click. Very slight. |
| 03:08.09 | Tem | ew |
| 03:08.20 | Tem | my mouse has no click |
| 03:08.25 | Tem | I <3 it |
| 03:09.00 | Tain | Yeah, I don't like the hard click scrolls. |
| 03:09.15 | Tain | This one is fine for me. |
| 03:09.20 | Tem | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2162,CONTENTID=9950 |
| 03:09.22 | Tem | I want that |
| 03:09.39 | Tem | but with an ergonomic keyboard |
| 03:10.53 | Tain | I just don't know if I can ever give up this keyboard now. I already love it so much. |
| 03:11.18 | Tain | And you can program the macro keys to do things. Things that... certain games.. don't want you to be able to do with a single keypush. |
| 03:12.51 | Tem | such as? |
| 03:13.16 | Tem | spam a keypress for you? |
| 03:13.58 | Tain | A keypress, or enter commands, pauses, more commands. |
| 03:14.16 | Tem | Tem's watercooler... er Mage wants one of those |
| 03:14.32 | Tain | hehe yeah |
| 03:15.01 | Tain | Or say you always open with the same spells. Hit a button, fire off a Frostbolt, wait 2 seconds, Fireball. |
| 03:15.29 | Tem | eh.. I've never thought something like that would be useful |
| 03:15.41 | Tem | Every situation is different |
| 03:15.49 | Tain | Yeah, just examples. |
| 03:16.13 | Tem | but I'd definatly write a macro that checks my mana and buffs to make water... |
| 03:16.31 | Tain | As a Rogue I thought, 4 Sinister Strikes, and then Eviscerate. And then thought about it for a second and realized I almost never do just that. |
| 03:17.16 | Tain | But I still like having the extra keys for macros that I don't have to assign to real letters in game. |
| 03:17.54 | Tem | if no "drinking buff" then if enough mana then cast conjure water else drink end end |
| 03:18.07 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 03:18.14 | Tem | set that on a macro and let my keyboard spam that button for a while... |
| 03:18.26 | Tain | haha I used to tell people in my guild I wasn't going to summon them food or water and they can go find another mage. |
| 03:19.03 | Tem | I seriously considered buying one of those "drinking birds" to spam a button for me... |
| 03:19.28 | Tain | haha yeah like Homer did. |
| 03:19.35 | Tem | Homer? |
| 03:19.36 | Tem | when? |
| 03:19.39 | Tem | I missed that one |
| 03:20.00 | Tain | haha in the Simpsons he put one on a button he had to press for the powerplant or it would explode. |
| 03:20.13 | Tem | oh lol |
| 03:20.15 | Tem | nice |
| 03:20.54 | Tain | He wanted to go out on disability so he wouldn't have to work, so he got himself super obese and it was considered a medical disability |
| 03:21.08 | Tem | lol |
| 03:21.37 | Tain | It was so funny. He goes to Dr. Nick and he says, "There are lots of options for dangerously underweight individuals as yourself!" |
| 03:21.53 | Tain | "When you make a sandwich instead of bread, use Pop Tarts!" |
| 03:22.39 | Unchained|ingame | Instead of chewing gum... |
| 03:22.44 | Unchained|ingame | CHEW BACON! |
| 03:23.12 | Tain | haha |
| 03:23.20 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.07 | Tain | "Use the paper test! If you rub your food against a piece of paper and the grease turns the paper translucent, you're good!" |
| 03:24.38 | Tain | That episode was so funny. |
| 03:25.08 | Unchained|ingame | I just love the way he said "chew bacon!" |
| 03:25.36 | Unchained|ingame | kind of ran it into one word "chuBAYkon!" |
| 03:25.44 | Tain | I'm trying to be a good friend. But it's a little difficult to control yourself when someone who married someone else just so they'd have health insurance is upset and has to file for divorce. |
| 03:28.07 | Tain | Jus tthrew it out there randomly. |
| 03:28.32 | Tem | Cair, this whole Abraha thing is wierding me out |
| 03:28.32 | Cair | yeah |
| 03:28.32 | Cair | the boy needs help |
| 03:28.47 | Tem | like from a doctor |
| 03:29.01 | Cair | a highly specialized doctor |
| 03:29.12 | Tain | Never can trust those doctors. |
| 03:30.20 | Cair | anyway, don't sweat it Tem, it's not your fault |
| 03:30.59 | Tain | It's just a drama thing. |
| 03:31.31 | Cair | yup |
| 03:32.06 | Tem | I know, Cair, but theres a part of me that is just... |
| 03:32.15 | Cair | Tem |
| 03:32.19 | Tain | Drama drama drama drama chameleon |
| 03:32.19 | Cair | not.your.fault |
| 03:32.23 | Tem | I know! |
| 03:32.31 | Tem | I just feel bad for people |
| 03:32.40 | Cair | me too, but there's only so much you can do |
| 03:32.45 | Tem | ugh |
| 03:33.46 | Tain | It's never as big of a deal as someone tries to make it on a public forum. |
| 03:33.49 | Cair | and maybe it sounds cruel, but both of his posts come across as "oh, woe is me, feel sorry for me, poor me" |
| 03:34.00 | Tain | That's exactly it, Cair. |
| 03:34.12 | Tain | If he truly felt he needed to leave, he'd just leave. |
| 03:34.24 | Tain | He wouldn't make posts that are just begging for sympathy. |
| 03:34.32 | Tain | Begging people to ask him to stay. |
| 03:35.21 | Tem | damnit... |
| 03:35.27 | Tem | now my day is all messed up |
| 03:35.38 | Tem | ... hmm I wonder if family guy will fix things |
| 03:35.53 | Tain | Stewie makes everything better. |
| 03:35.58 | Tain | !emulate Stewie |
| 03:35.59 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 03:36.30 | Tem | oh man... |
| 03:36.46 | Tem | and the most depressing episode is on |
| 03:37.09 | Tem | grr! |
| 03:37.15 | Tain | Which one? |
| 03:37.27 | Tain | (I'm watching the Colbert Report on Comedy Central.) |
| 03:37.38 | Tem | I can't stand him |
| 03:37.52 | Tem | he's so fucking liberal |
| 03:38.01 | Tain | I hadn't watched him alone yet. |
| 03:38.12 | Tain | I think he added a good humor to the Daily Show. |
| 03:38.17 | Tain | But I don't take any of it seriously. |
| 03:39.02 | Tain | I do think Jon Stewart is one of the funniest guys on television right now. |
| 03:39.13 | Unchained | agreed |
| 03:39.23 | Tem | Yeah |
| 03:39.25 | Tem | he's funny |
| 03:39.34 | Tem | but he's so biased I can't stomach the show |
| 03:39.36 | Unchained | that new followup spinoff is pretty good too |
| 03:41.26 | Tain | He is biased, but I can still appreciate the humor in it. |
| 03:42.40 | Tain | I can't help it, it's hard for me to take things seriously that aren't serious to me. |
| 03:48.03 | Unchained | "you can see your credit report..YOU CAN EVEN PRINT IT OUT IF YOU WANT TO!!!" I love advertising |
| 03:48.28 | Unchained | taco bell now selling "cow-meat steak" |
| 03:49.01 | Norque | makes me wonder what there steak was before hand... |
| 03:49.07 | Unchained | indeed |
| 03:50.00 | Norque | maybe its like haggis, and you just dont wanna know |
| 03:50.45 | Tem | !seen rowne |
| 03:50.49 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 6h 42m 18s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 03:53.56 | Tem | ok.. wtf |
| 03:54.03 | Tem | he's supposed to be 24 hours a day |
| 03:54.13 | Tem | !whaleslap Rowne |
| 03:54.14 | purl | ACTION slaps Rowne upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:00.22 | Tain | Taco Bell is a bad, bad place. |
| 04:00.51 | Tem | I like some of their food |
| 04:01.10 | Tain | I can't stomach it. |
| 04:01.23 | weab | its ok if you drown it in their fire sauce so the only taste thats left is vinegar |
| 04:08.12 | *** join/##ace Nakitomimaru (n=banker@c-24-118-167-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.41 | Nakitomimaru | Evening. |
| 04:10.13 | Norque | Hi Nak, how are you? |
| 04:10.56 | Nakitomimaru | Seriously considering Managerial Homicide. |
| 04:11.09 | Nakitomimaru | With a spoon. |
| 04:11.14 | Norque | that good aye? |
| 04:11.18 | Tem | Better run that by Cair first |
| 04:12.48 | Cair | why? |
| 04:13.22 | Tem | dunno, just figured I would say so since you are in a managerial spot of sorts |
| 04:13.37 | Cair | ooookay |
| 04:13.59 | Nakitomimaru | No. Not Cair. She's not a manager. She's still human. |
| 04:14.14 | Tem | what with keeping WoWI up and putting the "tain" in entertain you manage a lot of things... |
| 04:14.33 | Cair | why thank you Nak, that was sweet =) |
| 04:14.43 | Nakitomimaru | Ow. That HURT Tem. |
| 04:16.02 | Cair | so do we ask, Nakitomimaru? |
| 04:16.16 | Nakitomimaru | (Cair): I have a *very* newb manager. |
| 04:16.39 | Nakitomimaru | One who was transfered over from the lowest volume store in the district... to my store... the SECOND HIGHEST VOLUME STORE... |
| 04:16.48 | Cair | ah, gotcha, still need to get him/her trained yet, hmm? |
| 04:16.53 | Tem | Nak, I read your original message wrong |
| 04:16.59 | Tem | I read "Managerial Suicide" |
| 04:17.11 | Nakitomimaru | (Tem): Heh. |
| 04:17.37 | Nakitomimaru | (Cair): Oh, it's worse... we were the second highest volume store with the lowest crew - and we handled all the business without blinking. |
| 04:17.59 | Cair | and he/she wants to change things? |
| 04:18.05 | Nakitomimaru | I found out last night that he plans to take our delivery crew from ten to one fucking hundred drivers on the pay roll. >_< |
| 04:18.28 | Cair | why? |
| 04:18.45 | Nakitomimaru | Because he's under the moronic impression that we're short staffed. |
| 04:18.54 | Cair | heh |
| 04:19.06 | Nakitomimaru | We're not short staffed. He's so freaking slow that we can't cover for him. |
| 04:19.13 | Norque | yay for that old saying. "if it aint broke, fix it until it is" |
| 04:19.44 | Nakitomimaru | What few people were there when King managed - yes, my old manager's name is King - are pissed. Severely. |
| 04:20.18 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.38 | Nakitomimaru | Our times are way up, nobody can get any runs because there are too fucking many drivers on the shift, and he's just in general an all Aemerican 100% USDA Prime Choice Bullshit factory. |
| 04:23.35 | Nakitomimaru | I mean... I've come to terms with the fact that I'm a Dominoes Zombie rather than a driver at this point. But this is too much. |
| 04:24.20 | Tain | I want my pizza in 28 minutes or less. |
| 04:24.54 | kergoth | pizza delivery always reminds me of snowcrash |
| 04:24.56 | kergoth | the deliverator! |
| 04:25.00 | Nakitomimaru | Don't take this the wrong way Tain, but fuck you. ^_^ You'd be lucky to get it in 28 years or less at the rate this new manager is going. |
| 04:25.14 | Tain | Yeah kergoth. That whole story thread was awesome. |
| 04:25.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:25.24 | Tain | Anyway I don't buy from dominoes. |
| 04:25.37 | Nakitomimaru | Neither do I, I just work there. |
| 04:25.38 | Tain | There's tons of indipendantly owned places. |
| 04:25.42 | Tain | near me |
| 04:26.08 | Norque | oh dear... I'd best be off, see you guys later |
| 04:26.09 | Tain | And there'll be a Pizzeria Uno soon! |
| 04:26.27 | Tain | Yeah I just stopped in on my way back to bed. |
| 04:26.29 | Tain | Nite all. |
| 04:26.45 | Cair | night Tain |
| 04:26.52 | Nakitomimaru | Heh, and Tain, take that for the joke it was man. ^^ |
| 04:26.54 | Nakitomimaru | Night. |
| 04:28.36 | Tem | tain |
| 04:28.43 | Tem | you missed the greatest pun of all time |
| 04:28.55 | Tain | haha no, I think I saw it and ignored it. |
| 04:29.03 | Tem | look back to shortly after nak returned |
| 04:29.23 | Tain | Nothing good can come of such things! |
| 04:30.01 | Tem | I dunno.. |
| 04:30.03 | Tem | I was proud |
| 04:30.12 | Tem | anyway.. ItemCompare needs some love |
| 04:30.49 | Tain | Hav e good one all. |
| 04:39.41 | *** part/##ace Cair (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:40.41 | Tem | bye tain |
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| 04:43.05 | Tem | What happened Cair? |
| 04:43.21 | Cair | had to reboot the computer |
| 04:43.22 | Nakitomimaru | She just can't stay away, Tem. |
| 04:43.30 | Tem | aha |
| 05:14.11 | weab | omg |
| 05:14.18 | weab | 16 slot bag that looks like a pumpkin |
| 05:14.36 | Tem | drool? |
| 05:16.30 | weab | its humoursly gimpy |
| 06:09.54 | *** join/##ace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@ip51ccaa81.speed.planet.nl) |
| 06:10.01 | Cair | MoonWolf! |
| 06:10.09 | MoonWolf | Cair! |
| 06:10.35 | Cair | was Slash *really* supposed to be a plug in for chatscroll? |
| 06:10.55 | Cair | because that's how you uploaded it |
| 06:11.23 | MoonWolf | i did.... |
| 06:11.24 | MoonWolf | stupid me. |
| 06:11.53 | Cair | I'm presuming not ... |
| 06:12.08 | Nakitomimaru | Y'know... suddenly I have such a desire to watch the Neverending Story... I wonder if I could find my tape of it. o-O |
| 06:12.15 | MoonWolf | I'ts not suppsed to be a plugin to anything its a ace dependent addon. |
| 06:12.22 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.31 | Cair | you registered on the site as MoonWolf? |
| 06:12.36 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 06:12.53 | MoonWolf | userid=18252 |
| 06:13.00 | Cair | don't need it |
| 06:16.11 | Cair | all fixed, and you now have access to upload to the Ace section |
| 06:16.39 | MoonWolf | thanks for that. |
| 06:16.48 | Cair | you're welcome |
| 06:17.51 | MoonWolf | not yet :( |
| 06:32.37 | Tem | kergoth: http://pastebin.com/399515 |
| 06:32.54 | Tem | aww poo, he's not even here |
| 06:34.57 | Tem | or rather http://pastebin.com/399517 |
| 06:43.31 | *** part/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 06:43.34 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
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| 07:04.34 | Tem | kergoth |
| 07:04.55 | Tem | http://pastebin.com/399517 |
| 07:07.02 | Tem | anyone here have a non-english WoW client? |
| 07:12.04 | Tem | guess not... |
| 07:13.15 | weab | hm.. |
| 07:13.45 | Tem | oh well, I know some ppl who read the ace boards do.. surly someone there can help me out :) |
| 07:15.10 | weab | try |
| 07:15.18 | weab | irc.euirc.net #worldofwarcraft |
| 07:15.30 | Tem | it's not urgent |
| 07:15.48 | Tem | I'm pretty sure neriak and a few others have a german client |
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| 07:18.12 | weab | just figured i'd throw an option out ;) |
| 07:18.21 | Tem | yeah, thanks |
| 07:18.25 | Stylpe | !seen rowne |
| 07:18.27 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 10h 9m 56s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 07:18.27 | Nakitomimaru | 1011 10Stylpe,11 rowne 11(n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com11) was last seen when 11[Joining11]: ##ace 10[4days 1hr 41mins 30secs10] ago 121011UPP1012 |
| 07:18.31 | Stylpe | T_T |
| 07:18.36 | Tem | indeed |
| 07:18.44 | Stylpe | Now I'm really worried |
| 07:18.49 | Tem | I dunno what to think |
| 07:19.37 | Stylpe | He is too much of an Ace addict to abstain from posting for more than 24 hours... |
| 07:19.47 | Tem | mmhmm |
| 07:20.01 | Stylpe | So something must be wrong |
| 07:20.05 | Tem | maybe he lost his internet connection or something |
| 07:20.22 | Stylpe | I think he would've let us know by now |
| 07:20.29 | weab | internet cafes, work, public libraries, friends houses |
| 07:20.36 | weab | internet is everywhere! |
| 07:20.45 | Tem | maybe he had a nervous breakdown and has decided to avoid us for a while |
| 07:20.46 | Stylpe | The internet has you! |
| 07:20.48 | weab | unacceptable excuse! |
| 07:21.11 | Tem | whatever his reason, I'm sure he has one |
| 07:21.20 | Stylpe | yeah |
| 07:21.24 | Tem | and we will know all about it when he gets back |
| 07:21.34 | Stylpe | But I still would've expected him to let us know |
| 07:21.40 | Tem | ditto |
| 07:21.43 | weab | i vote spontanious road trip to nude beaches. |
| 07:21.58 | Tem | it costs too much to cross the channel |
| 07:22.14 | Stylpe | I'll win the lottery and pay for everyone :D |
| 07:22.27 | weab | creepy. |
| 07:22.41 | Tem | and I'm 99% sure there are no nude beaches in Brittan |
| 07:22.49 | Tem | they are far too sexually repressed for that |
| 07:22.49 | Stylpe | hehe, true |
| 07:22.51 | weab | not 20 minutes ago the topic for my server's irc channel was changed to "i hope i win the lottery" |
| 07:23.16 | Stylpe | What server is that? |
| 07:23.25 | weab | crushridge |
| 07:23.35 | Stylpe | Details, please |
| 07:24.02 | weab | dunno |
| 07:24.07 | weab | someone was talking about the lottery earlier |
| 07:24.14 | weab | just thought it coincidental you brought it up! |
| 07:24.24 | Stylpe | oh, I see =P |
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| 07:42.42 | Stylpe | Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering. |
| 07:42.54 | Tem | ! |
| 07:42.56 | Nakitomimaru | Don't we all. |
| 07:43.08 | Tem | "Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering." WTF |
| 07:43.12 | Tem | ... |
| 07:43.17 | Tem | let me try that again |
| 07:43.27 | Stylpe | There's a lot of addons I want to write, but I don't have time for it |
| 07:43.28 | Tem | "Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering." |
| 07:43.31 | Tem | QFT |
| 07:43.37 | Tem | ! |
| 07:43.46 | weab | i had a few years of my life like that |
| 07:43.53 | weab | its not that great : |
| 07:43.55 | weab | :P |
| 07:43.56 | Nakitomimaru | This must be Tem's idea of instant replay? |
| 07:44.00 | Tem | high school? |
| 07:44.03 | Stylpe | College |
| 07:44.12 | weab | stylpe wins |
| 07:44.19 | Tem | well.. I'm in college |
| 07:44.29 | Stylpe | \o/ *cheers* |
| 07:44.29 | Tem | I don't have very much time for jack |
| 07:44.37 | weab | oh, but you probably go to classes and study and try and stuff |
| 07:44.43 | Tem | well.. |
| 07:44.46 | Tem | most of the time |
| 07:44.55 | weab | there ya go then |
| 07:44.58 | Tem | So far I haven't gone to a single class this week |
| 07:45.12 | Tem | except one tonight since I had a mid-term |
| 07:45.25 | Stylpe | !emulate stylpe is <reply>Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering. |
| 07:45.26 | purl | ...but emulate stylpe is already something else... |
| 07:45.34 | Tem | but that doesn't count, I finished it in less than 30 minutes |
| 07:45.35 | Stylpe | !forget emulate stylpe |
| 07:45.35 | purl | i forgot emulate stylpe, Stylpe |
| 07:45.37 | Stylpe | !emulate stylpe is <reply>Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering. |
| 07:45.39 | purl | Stylpe: okay |
| 07:45.50 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 07:45.51 | purl | Do you want a soooda? |
| 07:45.58 | Tem | !emulate peter |
| 07:45.59 | purl | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 07:46.09 | Tem | !emulate brian |
| 07:46.10 | purl | Hey, Peter, it's seven o'clock and you've still got your pants on. What's the occassion? |
| 07:46.15 | Cair | night folks |
| 07:46.19 | Tem | Night cair |
| 07:46.21 | Stylpe | nn |
| 07:46.30 | Nakitomimaru | Night Cair_zzzz. |
| 07:48.32 | Industrial | good morning |
| 07:50.03 | Industrial | !emulate stewie |
| 07:50.04 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 07:50.18 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 07:50.22 | purl | Do you want a soooda? |
| 07:50.27 | Industrial | damn you, damn the brocoli and damn the wright brothers! |
| 07:50.29 | Industrial | :D |
| 07:50.44 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 07:50.45 | purl | Baby needs to suck ash! |
| 07:51.02 | Industrial | work time >_> |
| 07:51.08 | Tem | boo |
| 07:54.44 | Industrial | !emulate stewie |
| 07:54.45 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 07:54.55 | Industrial | !whatis emulate stewie |
| 07:54.59 | Industrial | !help |
| 07:55.09 | Tem | !literal emulate stewie |
| 07:55.11 | purl | "emulate stewie" is "<reply> see emulate stewie1 || <reply> see emulate stewie2" |
| 07:55.26 | Tem | !literal emulate stewie1 |
| 07:55.28 | purl | "emulate stewie1" is "<reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening." |
| 07:55.28 | Tem | !literal emulate stewie2 |
| 07:55.29 | purl | "emulate stewie2" is "<reply> Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! ||<reply> I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. || <reply> Do you want a soooda? || <reply> Baby needs to suck ash! || <reply> It's like an orgy in my mouth!" |
| 07:55.56 | Industrial | haha |
| 07:55.56 | Industrial | :p |
| 07:56.04 | Industrial | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 07:56.06 | Industrial | :D |
| 07:56.39 | Tem | I had to split it up into 2 separate literals to fit it all :) |
| 07:58.20 | Industrial | :) |
| 07:59.58 | Stylpe | Well, I have classes, cya =) |
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| 08:10.48 | Tem | kergoth: http://pastebin.com/399517 |
| 08:12.44 | Tem | kergoth`bbl_: are you actually here, or do you have a script logging you in while you sleep? |
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| 08:50.12 | Nakitomimaru | G'night folks. |
| 09:13.10 | Industrial | its near |
| 09:13.15 | Industrial | i see it all so clear! |
| 09:13.21 | Industrial | err |
| 09:13.21 | Industrial | nm |
| 09:13.21 | Industrial | wc |
| 09:13.22 | Industrial | ;x |
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| 11:23.05 | Stylpe | !seen rowne |
| 11:23.07 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 14h 14m 36s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 11:30.55 | Industrial | :9 |
| 11:30.56 | Industrial | :( |
| 11:31.13 | Cair_zzzz | I know, I'm worried too |
| 11:32.08 | Cair_zzzz | although I'm positive I saw someone (iirc, it was ToastThief) telling someone a few days ago that he had said something about going on vacation or something |
| 11:35.24 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 11:35.53 | Stylpe | Come back Rowne! |
| 11:35.59 | Industrial | make a post or sometinhg |
| 11:36.04 | Industrial | go to an internet cafe :| |
| 11:38.14 | Stylpe | He is getting a real good spanking when he gets back |
| 12:02.18 | Cair_zzzz | I just went through my logs and damned if I can find it, but I'm positive one of the regulars told (a random person) that Rowne had said something about being away for a few days |
| 12:02.45 | Cair_zzzz | I just have a hard time accepting it, though, since no one else knows a thing about it |
| 12:10.21 | Cair_zzzz | awwwww, what a shame, someone DMCA'd zeeg |
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| 12:31.38 | Cair_zzzz | okay, 3 hrs sleep isn't enough, night night again |
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| 13:08.36 | Industrial | Proud and so glorious, Standing before of us. Our swords will shine bright in the sky. When united we come, from the land of the sun. With the heart of a dragon we ride! |
| 13:08.57 | Industrial | NAAANAANANANANAAAA NAANAAANANANANAAAA |
| 13:10.24 | MoonWolf | yeah we know, you like the new band |
| 13:10.30 | Industrial | xD |
| 13:10.47 | Industrial | it gives me chills man :P |
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| 13:29.34 | MoonWolf | !whaleslap CIA-11 |
| 13:29.35 | purl | ACTION slaps CIA-11 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
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| 13:57.04 | Unchained | !coffee |
| 13:57.14 | Unchained | purl, fix me a cup of coffee |
| 13:57.15 | purl | ACTION takes me a cup of coffee to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 13:57.24 | Unchained | o.O |
| 13:57.58 | Unchained | #> cat 'food in cans' |
| 13:58.04 | Unchained | cat: cannot open 'food in cans' |
| 13:58.16 | Industrial | ... |
| 13:58.29 | Unchained | stupid unix tricks ;) |
| 13:58.34 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:58.37 | Unchained | make love |
| 13:58.44 | Industrial | what was it again, send dev/urandom to sound out |
| 13:58.44 | Unchained | make: don't know how to make 'love'. stop. |
| 13:58.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:59.57 | Unchained | it's been so long I'd have to work to find my way around a shell prompt |
| 14:00.18 | Unchained | they probably have new shells with thought-completion features and such by now :( |
| 14:00.20 | Unchained | wacky kids |
| 14:00.24 | Industrial | lol |
| 14:00.34 | Industrial | well theres zsh |
| 14:00.37 | Industrial | it has tetris.. |
| 14:00.48 | Unchained | yeah, i tried zsh for a while |
| 14:00.51 | Unchained | kitchen sink |
| 14:00.58 | Industrial | yeah far too big |
| 14:01.00 | Unchained | bash/tcsh not much better |
| 14:01.10 | Industrial | im jsut a normal bash user, use a few aliases thats it.. |
| 14:01.24 | Unchained | I was crazy good in bash, but i've forgotten it all |
| 14:01.32 | Industrial | im a vim editor fan though, use it everywhere, also for any code/text editing on windows |
| 14:02.12 | Unchained | it kicked so much ass when vim got syntax hilighting |
| 14:02.40 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:02.43 | Unchained | and when lynx got color <swoon> |
| 14:02.50 | Industrial | ur that old? :D |
| 14:02.57 | Industrial | (im1 8) |
| 14:03.00 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:03.08 | Unchained | 30 :( |
| 14:03.18 | Industrial | i evne use vim for asp.net o_O |
| 14:03.27 | Industrial | daily, 8 hours |
| 14:03.28 | Industrial | hehe |
| 14:03.38 | Unchained | eesh |
| 14:04.45 | Unchained | you get to a point with something like vim where it's basically your OS |
| 14:04.55 | Unchained | i knew a lot of guys like that with emacs, they could do ANYTHING in emacs |
| 14:04.56 | Industrial | yeah |
| 14:05.07 | Industrial | it has a file browser.. |
| 14:05.08 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:06.23 | Unchained | i worked with this korean guy that would have literally 20+ little tiny emacs windows in micro-fonts all over his monitor, and he'd be actively jumping around and using them ALL, not just like shoving crap off to the side to look at later |
| 14:06.27 | Unchained | made me dizzy |
| 14:06.39 | Industrial | heh cool |
| 14:06.51 | Industrial | i also use micro fonts though |
| 14:06.55 | Industrial | bitmap fonts* |
| 14:07.15 | Industrial | but im not really that into buffer splitting.. |
| 14:07.18 | Unchained | something about xwindows always put me off |
| 14:07.44 | Unchained | guess i just spent too long in front of dumb terminals |
| 14:07.50 | Industrial | its a bit chunky untill the point where you sprinkle gui goodness over it |
| 14:08.12 | Unchained | yeah, some of the frontends were pretty slick around the time i quit using linux for anything |
| 14:08.19 | Unchained | (mid 2000 or so) |
| 14:08.43 | Industrial | i use http://wmi.modprobe.de/ wich is the opposite of slick |
| 14:08.44 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:09.02 | Unchained | HELL YES |
| 14:09.07 | Unchained | where was that all my life? |
| 14:09.16 | Industrial | :X |
| 14:09.24 | Industrial | i also use |
| 14:09.25 | Industrial | http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont/index.html |
| 14:09.27 | Industrial | sheldon narrow |
| 14:09.33 | Industrial | for coding (also in win) |
| 14:10.20 | Unchained | nice |
| 14:10.34 | Industrial | amkin screeney |
| 14:10.37 | Industrial | nie* |
| 14:11.53 | Industrial | http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6755/untitled3hp.png |
| 14:11.57 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 14:12.32 | Industrial | i had to use this theme though, because colleagues often look at my screen while i explain or ask stuff and they disliked my dark scheme :9 |
| 14:13.03 | Unchained | and you care? |
| 14:14.58 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:15.03 | Unchained | damn, didn't get to play with visor yesterday |
| 14:15.25 | Industrial | http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3400/untitled5pe.png |
| 14:15.28 | Industrial | colorer for the win |
| 14:15.30 | Unchained | my gf quit her job, and i had to spend my whole night saying things like "it's ok honey, it's not like people need money anyway" |
| 14:15.54 | Industrial | *cough* well then if she needs moeny why'd she quit? |
| 14:16.06 | Unchained | um...<blush> mostly because I told her to |
| 14:16.09 | Unchained | hehe |
| 14:16.16 | Industrial | heh okay :) |
| 14:16.22 | Industrial | http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3400/untitled5pe.png |
| 14:16.27 | Industrial | colorer for the win! |
| 14:17.01 | Industrial | and you're right |
| 14:17.01 | Industrial | ! |
| 14:17.38 | Unchained | i know i'm getting old...takes me forever to adapt to shit |
| 14:17.51 | Unchained | i switched to firefox 3 days ago, and my whole world feels lop-sided |
| 14:18.07 | Industrial | >_> |
| 14:19.14 | Industrial | heh my grandpa *80 yrs old) uses firefox |
| 14:19.24 | Industrial | and rants at m$ about IE |
| 14:19.26 | Industrial | ;x |
| 14:19.29 | Unchained | probably navigates it better than I do |
| 14:19.29 | Industrial | (no kidding) |
| 14:20.06 | Industrial | that guy built his own main board and slapped a display and keys on it when that was all there was o_O |
| 14:20.28 | Unchained | seems odd that the music I once listened to whilst tripping my balls off at raves will one day be classical |
| 14:20.37 | Industrial | whahah |
| 14:20.52 | Industrial | yeah.. kinda.. meh weird thought |
| 14:23.39 | Unchained | I was working with this 60 year old woman that had spent most of her career dealing with IBM mainframes...they pretty much came in and told her one day "sorry, you've gotta do unix now if you want to keep your job" |
| 14:24.07 | Unchained | so I bought her the ORA perl boocks, and she just went NUTS...in like 3 days she was all over it, tripped me out |
| 14:24.20 | Unchained | boocks? |
| 14:24.33 | Unchained | purl, where the fuck is that coffee? |
| 14:24.35 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Unchained |
| 14:24.43 | Industrial | sick |
| 14:24.44 | Unchained | !lament |
| 14:24.45 | purl | for my $want ( @of_apt ){ print "your pain" until(!$forgotten); } |
| 14:24.51 | Industrial | lol |
| 14:24.52 | Unchained | omg |
| 14:24.53 | Industrial | rofl |
| 14:24.54 | Unchained | lol |
| 14:25.12 | Industrial | lol@ that |
| 14:25.17 | Industrial | !help |
| 14:25.38 | Unchained | of_apt....that slays |
| 14:29.39 | Industrial | Industrial !rot13 purl is cool |
| 14:29.39 | Industrial | purl okay, Industrial |
| 14:29.40 | Industrial | Industrial !reverse purl is cool |
| 14:29.40 | Industrial | purl okay |
| 14:29.41 | purl | from memory, okay is fine |
| 14:29.42 | Industrial | Industrial dont ok me bitch, do it |
| 14:29.42 | Industrial | Industrial heh |
| 14:29.42 | Industrial | purl heh |
| 14:29.43 | purl | heh |
| 14:29.46 | Industrial | Industrial :D? |
| 14:29.48 | Industrial | purl :D!!! |
| 14:29.53 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:29.54 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:30.57 | Industrial | purl: :D? |
| 14:31.07 | Industrial | =( |
| 14:31.13 | Unchained | purl, :D |
| 14:31.23 | Unchained | purl, foo? |
| 14:31.25 | purl | bar |
| 14:31.25 | Industrial | !help |
| 14:31.31 | Unchained | !bar |
| 14:31.32 | purl | bar is, like, baz or a friend of foo |
| 14:31.38 | Unchained | :( |
| 14:31.43 | Unchained | heh |
| 14:31.52 | Industrial | purl, lobotomy? |
| 14:31.53 | purl | I feel different somehow. |
| 14:31.59 | Industrial | :\ |
| 14:32.03 | Industrial | purl, lobotomy Unchained |
| 14:32.04 | purl | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Unchained |
| 14:32.04 | Industrial | :S |
| 14:32.13 | Unchained | orbital, plz |
| 14:32.15 | Industrial | hah |
| 14:32.16 | Industrial | ! |
| 14:32.20 | Industrial | now you are chaned! |
| 14:32.21 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:32.28 | Industrial | chained* |
| 14:32.32 | Industrial | with a chainsaw :P |
| 14:33.11 | Urchinseaweed | woo nickflood |
| 14:33.12 | Industrial | purl: unlobotomy Urchinseaweed |
| 14:33.22 | Industrial | purl, unlobotomy Urchinseaweed |
| 14:33.46 | weab | infobot abuse |
| 14:42.06 | Industrial | ;o |
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| 14:49.12 | MoonWolf | !seen rowne |
| 14:49.19 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 17h 40m 48s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 14:50.33 | Industrial | !seen Industrial |
| 14:50.34 | purl | industrial is currently on ##ace (7h 19m 12s). Has said a total of 117 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 14:51.24 | Industrial | heh, purl tells me howmany billable hours i can put down on my web timesheet |
| 14:51.27 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:51.30 | Industrial | 8! |
| 14:51.31 | Industrial | :d |
| 14:51.33 | Industrial | :D* |
| 14:57.42 | MoonWolf | !8ball |
| 14:57.44 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Most likely |
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| 15:13.50 | ToastTheif | well guys |
| 15:13.59 | ToastTheif | it looks like we have a bad rep in the community =/ |
| 15:17.27 | MoonWolf | what did we do ? |
| 15:22.49 | ToastTheif | eh |
| 15:23.01 | ToastTheif | well, apparently the 'Ace' people don't like the way a lot of other code, so we are evil |
| 15:23.29 | ToastTheif | on the bright side, CS 1.5 has no bugs ^_- |
| 15:23.54 | MoonWolf | NO bugs ? |
| 15:24.01 | MoonWolf | At all.... ??? |
| 15:24.14 | ToastTheif | nope |
| 15:25.05 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 15:25.26 | ToastTheif | and apparently I've ran Abhara off the face of the community |
| 15:25.41 | Tain | I helped. |
| 15:25.44 | ToastTheif | he's even deleted his addons on curse |
| 15:25.46 | ToastTheif | :O |
| 15:26.07 | ToastTheif | did u post something about him too? |
| 15:26.30 | ToastTheif | oh no...I found his addon |
| 15:26.38 | ToastTheif | it was hidden cuz curse suxx0rz =P |
| 15:26.52 | ToastTheif | ...and he just told him self to go fuck off |
| 15:28.30 | ToastTheif | well |
| 15:28.48 | ToastTheif | everyone addon he has says something about it like "Im a jackass, I quit goodbye" |
| 15:29.15 | Tain | I said something to him on the official forums. |
| 15:29.39 | Tain | When he went after the AuctionFilter (or wahtever it's called) author. |
| 15:29.52 | Unchained | i live under a rock, what's an Abhara? |
| 15:30.34 | ToastTheif | Abhara is some guy that apparently is 30yrs old, and has no social life so he goes off on other people and then tries to make us all feel sorry for him.. |
| 15:30.52 | Unchained | that's a bad thing? |
| 15:30.56 | MoonWolf | u feel sorry for his parents |
| 15:31.02 | MoonWolf | s/u/i/ |
| 15:31.19 | ToastTheif | I dunno, I went off on him for being a jackass to everyone and now I guess he's leaving |
| 15:31.21 | Unchained | wonder if he needs a roomate |
| 15:31.29 | Tain | When you're attacking other people for no reason, or for made up reasons, it's bad. |
| 15:31.59 | ToastTheif | I didn't mean to make him quit, I like his AuctionSort addon, I was just tired of seeing him belittle people and whatnot |
| 15:32.00 | Tain | And then he tries to get people to feel sorry for him. |
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| 15:32.47 | ToastTheif | oh wel |
| 15:32.47 | ToastTheif | l |
| 15:33.31 | ToastTheif | so |
| 15:34.02 | ToastTheif | in other news, about all of the flexbar and cosmos community dislikes us, yay! |
| 15:34.12 | ToastTheif | eh, the flexbar devlopers anyway |
| 15:34.44 | ToastTheif | for flexbar? |
| 15:35.06 | Ratbert_CP | Yep |
| 15:35.11 | Unchained | so he claims, but i'm not buying it |
| 15:35.23 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 15:35.31 | Tain | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=247496&p=1&tmp=1#post247496 |
| 15:35.43 | Tain | That's where Abarabgragabara whent off on the Auction Filter Plus guy |
| 15:35.46 | ToastTheif | well I was under the impression that the flex devs didn't like what we were doing with Visor, or Rowne rather |
| 15:36.01 | ToastTheif | I said something about Visor and they all went |
| 15:36.05 | Tain | That's what you get for trying to pay attention to what other people think. |
| 15:36.13 | ToastTheif | "where did all you ace freaks come from anyways?" |
| 15:36.53 | weab | man. this proves ite |
| 15:36.57 | Unchained | what an ass |
| 15:36.57 | Ratbert_CP | It's the whole "Ace is the one true path, your stuff sucks" image that some Ace proponents seem to exude... |
| 15:36.59 | Tain | You say that like it's a bad thing. |
| 15:37.03 | weab | every single aspect of the wow community is torn by drama. |
| 15:37.22 | Unchained | s/wow/human/g |
| 15:37.23 | Unchained | fixed |
| 15:37.44 | Ratbert_CP | There's also the territorial issue of a competitor to FlexBar that gets folks riled a bit... |
| 15:37.44 | Tain | Ratbert is right, some people do give off that air of superiority surrounding Ace. |
| 15:37.53 | Tain | It isn't the truth, but it comes across that way. |
| 15:37.54 | ToastTheif | I don't think any of the devlopers for Ace think like that RatBert |
| 15:38.12 | Ratbert_CP | I didn't say it was the truth, I said it was the image... :) |
| 15:38.17 | ToastTheif | I think it's more of the people who use the addons and tell the authors "WHY CAN't U DO THIS CUZ I THINK IT's BETTER!!!" |
| 15:38.25 | Unchained | a think a lot of the users DO though...myself for sure. not that i go around bashing non-ace mods, i still use a few |
| 15:38.44 | Unchained | but i dropped all my stuff for ace and gained not only a HUGE performance boost, but more powerful mods in the bargain |
| 15:38.50 | ToastTheif | mhmm, I still use a lot of non ace addons, it makes me sad =P |
| 15:39.11 | Ratbert_CP | There's also the issue of a nearly complete rewrite to really get any benefit form Ace. |
| 15:39.12 | Unchained | and then i look at the forums and the irc channel, and find a great community backing it |
| 15:39.23 | Tain | A lot of the perception also comes from Ace developers making simple statements like, "Using Ace makes your code faster and more efficient." |
| 15:39.35 | ToastTheif | well it does, tain =P |
| 15:39.45 | Tain | While it may be a completely true statement it's corollary is, "Your addon is slow and bloated." |
| 15:39.47 | MoonWolf | if done the correct way yes it does. |
| 15:39.48 | Ratbert_CP | And the fact that I'll bet a lot of FPS hit is the event system, which I don't think will benefit from Ace... |
| 15:40.06 | Ratbert_CP | AFK |
| 15:40.11 | MoonWolf | Partially ace does a bit of optimizing. |
| 15:40.23 | ToastTheif | mhmm, well Flexbar's problem is the events and onupdates stuff |
| 15:40.51 | Unchained | i think it's more the trip up the ace learning curve that makes the end-product better though |
| 15:41.21 | Unchained | in the end, it's just a library..it's learning a bit of the philosophy behind it that makes things so silky smooth |
| 15:41.52 | Unchained | hell i've been coding for years and i learned a lot just reading people's musings on the dev forums |
| 15:42.12 | Tain | It's harder to use Ace if you've developed a Lua coding style without it. |
| 15:42.27 | Tain | On the other hand, it's a lot harder to code without Ace once you're used to it. |
| 15:42.35 | Unchained | bah, Lua's a toy language anyway |
| 15:42.37 | Unchained | hehe |
| 15:42.43 | Ratbert_CP | Yas, Saien... |
| 15:42.49 | Ratbert_CP | ^Yas^Yes^ |
| 15:43.37 | ToastTheif | 16/54 addons I used are Ace or Ace'd ^_- |
| 15:44.04 | ToastTheif | lol RatBert |
| 15:44.07 | Unchained | yeah but if you're anything like me you had 80+ before switching to ace |
| 15:44.07 | MoonWolf | don't know how many half of them at most i think |
| 15:44.11 | ToastTheif | Saien is set on that, eh? |
| 15:44.22 | Unchained | I dropped at least 1/3 of my addons when I found out just how much was aced |
| 15:44.38 | Unchained | a lot of duplicated functionality went poof |
| 15:45.15 | Ratbert_CP | Let's say it's a good thing Saien isn't an Ace groupie, or your elitist image would be, well... Unfathomable... :) |
| 15:45.32 | ToastTheif | hehe |
| 15:45.36 | MoonWolf | hmm, i care little for the ace image. |
| 15:45.48 | Tain | I do. |
| 15:45.53 | Tain | I don't care about *my* image. |
| 15:46.10 | weab | holy crap this guy is a fag. |
| 15:46.13 | Tain | But I don't want my warts to be associated with Ace when they're not directly related. |
| 15:46.14 | ToastTheif | ? |
| 15:46.29 | ToastTheif | what guy weab |
| 15:46.37 | weab | that abraha post that was linked earlier |
| 15:46.40 | weab | just glanced it over |
| 15:46.43 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 15:46.58 | ToastTheif | yeah, that's why I said what I said and went off on him =P |
| 15:47.40 | Unchained | i'm still skimming it |
| 15:47.51 | Unchained | a$$hat |
| 15:48.12 | ToastTheif | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php%3Faddid%3D2260&ei=JrxXQ8fjNZTOpwLb65HSAg&sig2=oJdEjbPnjjCr4ybCsOsYpg |
| 15:48.17 | ToastTheif | that's what I said |
| 15:48.31 | ToastTheif | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2260 |
| 15:48.33 | ToastTheif | rather |
| 15:48.40 | Unchained | i've been using his mod...I rather like it |
| 15:48.43 | ToastTheif | I have to go though |
| 15:48.45 | ToastTheif | same here |
| 15:48.46 | Unchained | hrmph |
| 15:48.51 | ToastTheif | but I don't like him =P |
| 15:48.57 | ToastTheif | cya all at 3 |
| 15:49.11 | Unchained | aparently so did the guy he tried to nail to a cross.. |
| 15:50.18 | weab | omg the author's name isnt there! |
| 15:50.32 | weab | as if anyone knows it, the mod names are much more recognizable. |
| 15:51.02 | Unchained | well if there weren't 17 addons with some permutation of "auctionfilter" in the name already, it might clear things up |
| 15:51.36 | Unchained | AuctionFilter_RL_OMGIRLBBQ |
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| 16:07.31 | Ratbert_CP | OK... I see how to register an event via Ace, but I can't seem to track down the parameter passing... |
| 16:08.54 | Ratbert_CP | Oh, wait... The args are all there as arg1...argN, right? |
| 16:12.00 | Tain | Yes |
| 16:12.01 | Industrial | i dont know :( (stupid answer i know) try ace:print()'ing it |
| 16:12.06 | Industrial | nm ;x |
| 16:12.22 | Tain | Or if you don't care about the args and just want to mkae sure they're passed I think you can use ... |
| 16:12.40 | Ratbert_CP | I care about the args *and* the event name... |
| 16:13.00 | Ratbert_CP | Well... Let me 'splain... |
| 16:13.57 | Ratbert_CP | I like the dispatch methodology FlexBar currently uses, where a table of functions is built with the keys being the event names. Then you just grab the functions out of the table and execute them. |
| 16:14.28 | Ratbert_CP | So, I'd like to register the events through Ace, and have them all call the same dispatch function. |
| 16:14.53 | Ratbert_CP | Which would then grab the functions out of the table/db via more Ace-age... |
| 16:15.41 | Ratbert_CP | i.e.: |
| 16:15.41 | Ratbert_CP | self.event_handlers = self.db:get(PROFILE_NAME, "EventHandlers") |
| 16:15.41 | Ratbert_CP | self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT", "EventDispatch") |
| 16:15.41 | Ratbert_CP | function self:EventDispatch() |
| 16:15.41 | Ratbert_CP | local dispatch = self.event_handlers:get() |
| 16:15.42 | Ratbert_CP | dispatch() |
| 16:15.44 | Ratbert_CP | end |
| 16:16.00 | Ratbert_CP | Hrmm... The get() function needs the event name... |
| 16:16.44 | Industrial | im dumb so ignore me if this is stupid but couldnt you just execute a function alread on a registerevent? |
| 16:16.52 | Industrial | already* |
| 16:18.32 | Ratbert_CP | Yes, but by using a table of functions, I can manipulate how an event is handled a little easier by manipulating the dispatch table, rather than registering and unregistering events. |
| 16:19.51 | Industrial | Ratbert_CP: will flexbar ever be aced? lol :P i think thats a bit too bold to ask >_> |
| 16:20.34 | Ratbert_CP | Well... The bloat and pain in FlexBar isn't really addressable by Acing it. The problem lies in the event system... |
| 16:21.46 | Plorkyeran[Away] | It isn't really possible to de-bloat flexbar, as that's the main point of it |
| 16:21.46 | Ratbert_CP | Mainly the vast number of events it tries to handle, not to mention the polled events and such-like... |
| 16:22.14 | Ratbert_CP | Well... The bloat isn't a design feature, it's a side-effect of trying to do everything... :) |
| 16:22.26 | Industrial | well im using visor for my buttoning now but i really like how i can set it up with flexbar more clearly and in 2/3 commands instead of 30 |
| 16:22.45 | Industrial | on the other hand i just love the relative positioning with visor |
| 16:22.55 | Ratbert_CP | Then what you probably want is a layout tool/addon for Visor, not an Aced FlexBar... :) |
| 16:22.57 | Industrial | if only i could do it by group.. |
| 16:23.18 | Plorkyeran[Away] | a "flexbar-light" with only the button positioning features would be nice, but there's already a lot of similar things simply without as good of interfaces |
| 16:23.42 | Industrial | i like discord action bars too, i believe visor needs a front end like that ;) |
| 16:24.13 | Plorkyeran | Rowne is somewhat opposed to that sort of thing, iirc |
| 16:24.22 | Industrial | yeah i know, but its so much easier |
| 16:24.26 | Plorkyeran | you could just use moveanything for that |
| 16:24.31 | Industrial | i can have my setup in 3 minutes |
| 16:24.51 | Industrial | no no it also uses parent relative positioning to UIParent, and on event scripts/macros |
| 16:25.18 | Industrial | and scaling and alpha and text and making buttons red/blue/any color you like for out of range/nmana etc |
| 16:25.21 | Plorkyeran | if you know lua it's actually not that hard to write a quick script to position things in Visor, but it would be nice to have something faster |
| 16:25.37 | Industrial | yeah but i dont know lua :| no time |
| 16:26.03 | Industrial | if im gunna learn it i cant do it in chunks of 30 mins i have of spare time |
| 16:26.13 | Tain | Rowne isn't opposed to it. He simply doesn't want to code a gui himself. |
| 16:26.20 | Tain | He's said multiple times someone else is free to. |
| 16:26.39 | Plorkyeran | well, opposed to creating it |
| 16:26.57 | Plorkyeran | it could be completly seperate, anyways |
| 16:27.09 | Tain | Of cousre, it's just going to take someone else doing it. :) |
| 16:27.50 | Plorkyeran | bleh, I wish discord art didn't boost my mem usage 5 megs just by being enabled |
| 16:27.58 | Industrial | heh |
| 16:28.20 | Plorkyeran | it's so nice for being able to skin things, but I can't raid with it enabled... |
| 16:28.25 | Tain | Discord ARt just has too much stuff. |
| 16:28.30 | Plorkyeran | hmm |
| 16:28.46 | Tain | It's nice what it can do, but it's chock full of things to lag you. |
| 16:29.01 | Plorkyeran | I wonder how hard it'd be to write a program to load a dart config file and convert it to an addon with the settings hardcoded |
| 16:29.17 | Tain | Possibly not that hard at all. |
| 16:29.21 | Tem | Plorkyeran: don't bother |
| 16:29.37 | Tem | whatever you can do with DART you can do with a simple addon |
| 16:29.38 | Tain | I've never looked at a dart config file though. |
| 16:29.46 | Tem | or you can do it with visor |
| 16:30.00 | Plorkyeran | it's the ingame GUIness that I like |
| 16:30.03 | Tain | That's what he means though, Tem. Take your existing Dart config and import it to Visor or something else. |
| 16:30.04 | Industrial | theres one thing i dont get |
| 16:30.07 | Industrial | about addons |
| 16:30.19 | Tain | So you can set it with Dart, make it pretty, then use Visor to implement it and save yourself the memory. |
| 16:30.25 | Plorkyeran | as it means I don't have to switch back to WoW every 5 minutes to avoid being dropped from the BG queue |
| 16:30.41 | Tain | (At least that's the gist of my u nderstanding of what Plork is saying.) |
| 16:30.42 | Industrial | why does Discord action bars have 10 bars max, visor have some number of buttons max, etc... |
| 16:30.55 | Industrial | cant you just generate some xml with "a new group" ? |
| 16:31.04 | Tem | nope |
| 16:31.12 | Plorkyeran | yeah, I want the dart gui, then convert it to a format that doesn't require dart to actually use |
| 16:31.15 | Tem | the actionbutton information is stored on the server |
| 16:31.19 | Tain | They're using the existing game buttons. Well, copies of the existing game buttons. |
| 16:31.26 | Tem | so there is a max number of buttons |
| 16:31.30 | Industrial | oh ic |
| 16:31.35 | Plorkyeran | you can fake buttons, but that has it's own problems |
| 16:31.43 | Plorkyeran | groupbuttons does that |
| 16:31.47 | Industrial | not that i need that much |
| 16:31.52 | Tain | TEchnically you could make as many buttons as you want. But they'd point to the same real button. |
| 16:32.04 | Industrial | ill need like 25 buttons max ever |
| 16:32.07 | Industrial | :) |
| 16:32.43 | Plorkyeran | I peaked out at 70 or so, then itemrack got me back down to 55 |
| 16:33.08 | *** join/##ace Industrial (n=tom@hellsblade.xs4all.nl) |
| 16:33.27 | Industrial | woops.. |
| 16:33.28 | Tain | Although I wonder if you could make a set of buttons that all pointed to ActionButton1 let's say. and all your handling is on ActionButton1. But, clicking on one of the buttons sends alt-click to ActionButton1. Another send ctrl-click, shift-click, etc. |
| 16:33.52 | Tain | So you can have handlers for all of those cases on a single real button, but other buttons to fake the extra keypress and pass it off. |
| 16:34.08 | Plorkyeran | why bother with the actionbutton at all? |
| 16:34.30 | Plorkyeran | I already basically do that with castparty |
| 16:34.56 | Tain | Irrelevant, I'm introducing genreal ideas, not specific implemtnations. |
| 16:35.47 | Plorkyeran | ah, I just re-read what you said |
| 16:35.53 | Tain | If it did work that way it would mean you could have say 240 buttons instead of 80. |
| 16:36.05 | kergoth | win 5 |
| 16:36.07 | kergoth | bah |
| 16:36.08 | Plorkyeran | I suppose you could, but I don't entirely see that point |
| 16:36.16 | Tain | Yeesh. |
| 16:36.37 | Tain | It isn't about the end point. |
| 16:36.44 | Tain | It's about expanding ideas and finding new ways to do things. |
| 16:37.14 | Tem | kergoth: http://pastebin.com/399982 |
| 16:37.29 | Tain | I'm sure someone said, "I don't see the point of letting users change the UI." as well. |
| 16:37.59 | Tem | I read a post once from this guy how was completely serious |
| 16:38.07 | Tem | "Ban UI Mods!" |
| 16:38.25 | Plorkyeran | have people actually come close to having 96 buttons be too few? |
| 16:38.28 | Tem | because things like gatherer and atlas should be considered cheating |
| 16:38.43 | Tem | according to him |
| 16:38.57 | Plorkyeran | atlas? |
| 16:39.00 | Plorkyeran | That's a new claim |
| 16:39.24 | Plorkyeran | even most trolls figure out that alt-tab works almost as well as atlas |
| 16:39.51 | Tem | this was a while back |
| 16:39.52 | Tain | Ah Plork, you're simply closing your mind to the possibilities. |
| 16:40.02 | Tem | he didn't even post it on the UI forum |
| 16:40.08 | Tain | Practical appliction doesn't always come immediately. |
| 16:40.12 | Tem | he posted it on the bug report |
| 16:40.33 | Tem | and someone on the UI forum made a post the title was : "Ban UI Mods!" |
| 16:40.51 | Tem | the body was a link to his post and the text "Or just have a good laugh" |
| 16:40.57 | Tem | because his post was completely absurd |
| 16:41.04 | Tain | Well, there still a daily ban Decursive. |
| 16:41.21 | Tem | I've decided to post "The horse is dead. get off" |
| 16:41.26 | Tem | every time I see one of those threads |
| 16:41.28 | Plorkyeran | that's at least somewhat justified, at least |
| 16:41.45 | Tem | I think it's retarded |
| 16:41.46 | Plorkyeran | it's a dead horse, but there's a decent reason behind wanting it banned, at least |
| 16:41.52 | Tem | I disagree |
| 16:42.23 | Plorkyeran | I personally think it's fine, but I can understand that people dislike any form of automation |
| 16:42.26 | Tem | I don't even use it, I can dispell things faster and better than someone with decursive |
| 16:42.51 | Tem | Why? because I can THINK about who to decurse first |
| 16:43.07 | Tain | Most people don't think. |
| 16:43.13 | Plorkyeran | but the difference isn't going to make a noticable effect any significant amount of the time |
| 16:43.15 | Tem | kergoth: are you even here? |
| 16:43.19 | Tain | Actually let me modify that statement. |
| 16:43.24 | Plorkyeran | and that's the intelligent complaint about it |
| 16:43.29 | Tain | On a big high-end raid, you don't WANT most people to think. |
| 16:43.37 | Tain | Because they're dumb. |
| 16:43.42 | Tem | ... |
| 16:43.49 | Tem | In my guild |
| 16:43.53 | Tem | I want people to think |
| 16:43.57 | Tem | we have smart people |
| 16:44.02 | Plorkyeran | Decursive has made the difference between skill and lack of skill in cleaning very minor most of the time |
| 16:44.15 | Tem | we only recruited smart people |
| 16:44.22 | Tem | that's why we are just getting to MC |
| 16:44.28 | Tem | but we are owning it |
| 16:44.32 | Plorkyeran | and many ex-EQers are worried about the "dumbing-down" of mmos |
| 16:44.40 | Tain | Hah |
| 16:44.46 | Tem | eh, that's a valid point |
| 16:45.00 | Tain | EQ has had gone through a dumbing-down process since the day it was released. |
| 16:45.00 | Tem | Well... I gtg to class |
| 16:45.19 | Plorkyeran | yeah, and many of them aren't happy about that |
| 16:45.25 | Tem | I'll be back during class of course... but I need to leave for it now :) |
| 16:45.41 | Tain | Yet look how many still played, and still play other games. |
| 16:46.03 | Plorkyeran | yeah, it's not a concern about the health of the game |
| 16:46.35 | Tain | It's because having "skill" in a game doesn't put you above anyone else. |
| 16:46.56 | Plorkyeran | it's a concern on the part of the hardcore that most mmos get extremely stupid at the highend |
| 16:46.58 | Tain | Anyone can still get to your level and get the gear you have even if they're a horrible player. |
| 16:47.14 | Plorkyeran | but they're run into the problem that they're uncommon enough that games aren't targeted at them |
| 16:48.34 | Plorkyeran | I'm not saying that it's a good or bad thing, but the intelligent complaints about Decursive are mostly a side effect of the shifting focus |
| 16:49.25 | Plorkyeran | and then there's the idiots who go "ZOMG! MODS EVIL!" |
| 16:50.06 | Tain | No my own personal view (which doesn't apply to anything but me) is that I'm for automation of everything since the game is a realtively short term enjoyment for me. |
| 16:50.46 | Tain | I don't wory about trivializing anything since in the long run it's all trivialized by time. |
| 16:51.07 | Industrial | Tain: go play Half life:tfc for 6.5 years and youll know why skill matters |
| 16:51.16 | Industrial | but anyway, that doesnt count for mmo's |
| 16:51.19 | Tain | Those are two completely different things. |
| 16:51.32 | Industrial | ever played dark age of camelot? |
| 16:51.36 | Industrial | theres like 30 classes |
| 16:51.39 | Plorkyeran | yeah, if your goal is to enjoy the game then move on later, it doesn't matter if you consume content "too fast", as you won't be sitting around for months waiting for more stuff |
| 16:51.41 | Industrial | you need a good group to win :P |
| 16:51.49 | Tain | And I did play HL:CTF for along time. |
| 16:51.56 | Industrial | TFC* |
| 16:52.01 | Industrial | Team Fortress Classic |
| 16:52.02 | Industrial | :) |
| 16:52.07 | Plorkyeran | skill does matter in WoW, but the vast majority of the "skill" is being able to listen to orders |
| 16:52.17 | Industrial | yeah, cause wow is dumb |
| 16:52.29 | Industrial | 4.5 million ;) DUMB ;) |
| 16:52.38 | Tain | I also played DaoC, AO, AC, CoH, Guidlwars |
| 16:52.47 | Industrial | daoc rocked |
| 16:52.48 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:52.56 | Industrial | until everyone started using bots |
| 16:53.04 | Tain | It was a great game, but only if you wanted your "end game" to be PVP. |
| 16:53.10 | Industrial | hey you want my buff bot for a while? sure! |
| 16:53.49 | Industrial | Tain: remember in the beginning how scouts used ot rock? |
| 16:53.57 | Tain | Yeah they did. |
| 16:54.05 | Industrial | lv 50 scout, 3 shots while cloaked and you're dead |
| 16:54.24 | Industrial | heh, some rogue class sneaks up to you |
| 16:54.25 | Tain | That's one of the problems with having so many options. Clerics/Priests (whaatever they're called in that game) had major problems at first. |
| 16:54.28 | Industrial | and you pwn him with sword |
| 16:54.29 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:54.38 | Tain | People didn't want to group you if you weren't pure healing line spec. |
| 16:54.42 | Industrial | Tain: both, actually |
| 16:55.03 | Industrial | yeah |
| 16:55.05 | Industrial | true |
| 16:55.18 | Industrial | but i gotta go |
| 16:55.21 | Industrial | driving lessons |
| 16:55.26 | Industrial | vrrrooommmm =) |
| 16:55.30 | Tain | I was lucky in that I was playing with a regular group and had a Priest who could focus on crowd control. |
| 16:55.34 | Tain | Don't hit anything. |
| 16:55.39 | Industrial | nah |
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| 17:19.00 | Tain | Damn, someone won the $350 million PowerBall jackpot. |
| 17:19.02 | Tain | And it wasn't me. |
| 17:21.11 | MoonWolf | LOL |
| 17:21.39 | MoonWolf | how much of that 350 mil is going to go straight to tax ? |
| 17:24.11 | Tain | I believe it's 35-40% |
| 17:25.03 | weab | the poor sod will have to make do with only $210,000,000 |
| 17:25.09 | Tain | Linux has been marketing itself all wrong! |
| 17:25.09 | weab | what a shame. |
| 17:25.11 | Tain | http://www.moast.com/free_image_hosting/61683 |
| 17:25.19 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@204.90.50.252) |
| 17:25.24 | Tem | haha yay! |
| 17:25.34 | Tem | anthro teacher is showing a movie |
| 17:26.28 | Tain | Actually, if the winner takes the one time payout instead of the 20 year annuity they'll only end up taking home I think about $100 mil |
| 17:27.26 | Tem | and that doesn't include taxes |
| 17:27.41 | Tain | No, that's after my tax estimate. |
| 17:27.50 | Tem | oh |
| 17:28.07 | Tain | It's all a very rough estimate though. $350 mil total jackpot. |
| 17:28.09 | MoonWolf | still, 100 mil is pretty nice. |
| 17:28.09 | Tem | well that's still a buttload of money |
| 17:28.14 | weab | who in their right mind would take the single payout |
| 17:28.28 | MoonWolf | ill take 1/100 of that and be happy the rest of my life |
| 17:28.30 | Tain | I would. |
| 17:28.38 | weab | why |
| 17:28.53 | weab | you cant survive on 10 million a year? |
| 17:28.57 | MoonWolf | lots of mone=ye(tm) |
| 17:29.03 | Tain | Because I believe I could turn $100 million into more than that in 20 years. |
| 17:29.36 | weab | oh. you're one of those weird actually not be satisfied with too much money people |
| 17:29.44 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:30.01 | Tain | Not at all. I simply believe I can make better investments with my money than the lottery comission can. |
| 17:30.18 | MoonWolf | also, what happens to my payouts when i die ? |
| 17:30.25 | Tain | Plus being single if I were to die there's no provisions for passing on the rest of the payouts. |
| 17:30.39 | Tain | MoonWolf: Many if not most states have provisions for your spouse getting the rest. |
| 17:30.51 | Tain | And possibly your children, but I'm not sure about that. |
| 17:31.23 | MoonWolf | okay, well if not that could be a factor for elderly people |
| 17:31.57 | Tain | I can't think of any case right now that I wouldn't take the payout on any amount. |
| 17:32.09 | kergoth | hmmmmm.. i need to find some good keybindings for ion3. right now it uses alt as mod1, so irssi cant use it for window switching |
| 17:32.12 | Tain | Simply because I think I can do more with that money. |
| 17:32.35 | Tain | kergoth: http://www.moast.com/free_image_hosting/61683 |
| 17:32.37 | MoonWolf | why woud you want to. |
| 17:32.39 | MoonWolf | put it in a bank |
| 17:32.47 | MoonWolf | get at the worst 1% on it per year |
| 17:32.52 | MoonWolf | thats 1 mil per year |
| 17:32.55 | MoonWolf | i can live on that easy |
| 17:33.13 | Tain | That's dangerous. |
| 17:33.36 | MoonWolf | why ? |
| 17:33.39 | Tain | The Federal Government doesn't insure up to $100mil on banks. |
| 17:33.54 | Tain | Bank goes bankrupt for some reason, your money goes bye bye. |
| 17:34.05 | MoonWolf | well, spread it out. |
| 17:34.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:34.43 | MoonWolf | and, i still think its less riscy then investing it. |
| 17:34.45 | kergoth | mmmh, linux is so much faster and more efficient. i am soo not missing xp. now to get wow running under wine/cedega |
| 17:34.45 | Tain | It's one of the reasons people keep money in assets instead of liquid. |
| 17:34.58 | Tem | kergoth |
| 17:35.11 | kergoth | hm? |
| 17:35.29 | Tem | http://pastebin.com/399991 |
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| 17:36.54 | kergoth | cute. tooltip scanning functable? |
| 17:36.56 | kergoth | what's 'prev'? |
| 17:37.22 | kergoth | bbl, need to get cleaned up and head to a dr appt |
| 17:37.25 | Tem | there isn't always an itemID |
| 17:37.42 | Tem | you still here? |
| 17:37.45 | Tem | so I can explain? |
| 17:38.26 | kergoth`bbl | heh, we can talk about it when i get back from teh appointment. shouldnt take long |
| 17:38.39 | Tem | k |
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| 18:12.01 | Tem | hey cair |
| 18:12.18 | Cair | hey =) |
| 18:13.28 | MoonWolf | hello cairen |
| 18:16.04 | Cair | hi MoonWolf =) |
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| 18:24.54 | Tain | Stupid blorophlobe. |
| 18:26.48 | Tain | Oh joy, tomorrow is jeans day. |
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| 18:30.07 | Tem | h'ok, so |
| 18:31.05 | Cair | uh oh, Tem's about to blow up WoW again |
| 18:31.16 | Tem | nah |
| 18:31.26 | Tem | I'm just trying to make ItemCompare work again |
| 18:31.45 | Tem | but slouken won |
| 18:31.54 | Tem | 't answer my question about GetItemInfo |
| 18:32.04 | Tem | so I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time or not |
| 18:33.49 | Tem | I'm semi afraid my question is about to be buried in the SavedVariable non-sense that is currently going on in the changes thread |
| 18:34.03 | Tem | but I have faith that slouken will see my post |
| 18:34.16 | Tain | What else can open up and extract the Blizzard files besides WinMPQ? |
| 18:34.22 | Tain | There was another one someone was touting. |
| 18:34.34 | Tem | I dunno |
| 18:34.50 | Tem | What's wrong with WinMPQ? |
| 18:34.53 | Tain | Ah well. I think it might have been kergoth. |
| 18:35.01 | Tain | I just wanted to see, whoever it was liked it better. |
| 18:35.06 | Tem | he said he should be back soon |
| 18:35.14 | Tain | And I still get crashes with WinMPQ sometimes. |
| 18:35.25 | Tem | Abuuh? |
| 18:35.29 | Tem | !seen rowne |
| 18:35.35 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 21h 27m 4s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 18:35.46 | Tem | wow.. that's almost 4 days |
| 18:36.49 | Tain | Yep. |
| 18:39.19 | Tem | Tem is starting to get worried |
| 18:41.35 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3990 |
| 18:44.03 | Tem | ah |
| 18:44.14 | Tem | Wait.... Potillan is still around? |
| 18:44.22 | Tem | I miss him telling off noobs... |
| 18:44.36 | Tem | Saien has his heart in it, but he just isn't cruel enough |
| 18:45.52 | Tain | That's the one I do have, Cair. |
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| 19:33.52 | Ratbert_CP | Hrmmm... Rowne echews Ace for db function in Visor?!? Punk dillitante(sp?)... :^P |
| 19:34.02 | ToastTheif | <> |
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| 19:40.29 | Neriak | hiya! |
| 19:40.48 | Cair | hi Neriak |
| 19:41.01 | Neriak | hello Cairenn :) |
| 19:50.46 | weab | was gehts |
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| 20:04.53 | Randor | hi everybody... |
| 20:05.06 | Tem | greetings |
| 20:05.07 | Cair | hi Randor |
| 20:05.18 | Tem | Thanks for checking that tooltip thing Randor |
| 20:05.42 | Randor | *note to myself: if you remember that the channel changed.. read the whole post that says "server changed too"... |
| 20:05.50 | kergoth`bbl | yay, home with a prescription of antidepressents |
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| 20:06.53 | Randor | glad that i could help tem... but now you have me looking eagerly @ the whole frameXML folder, trying to find a way to get rid of this localization mayhem ;) |
| 20:07.05 | Tem | heh... |
| 20:07.09 | Tem | It will help some |
| 20:07.12 | Tem | but not much |
| 20:07.19 | Tem | welcome back kergoth |
| 20:07.23 | Tain | Stupid internet. |
| 20:07.37 | Tem | Randor: In general, localization sucks. a lot |
| 20:07.41 | Tem | ok.. |
| 20:07.48 | kergoth | yes, everyone needs to use utf8, damnit. |
| 20:07.49 | Randor | there *must* be a way to call the spells via variables that are equal in any version.. |
| 20:07.58 | Tem | now kergoth: http://pastebin.com/400205 |
| 20:09.30 | Tem | there are 5 cases (4 in 1.9) where the itemID is unavailable to me and I still need to do a comparison. To help with that, I cache the last parse it did without an id by name |
| 20:09.36 | kergoth | ahh |
| 20:09.51 | Tem | so if there is no itemID it checks to see if the chached stats have the same name as the current item |
| 20:09.59 | Tem | if so, it pulls those stats |
| 20:10.09 | Tem | else it has to scan the tooltip again |
| 20:10.13 | Randor | first thought, after i had to admit that cladhaire was right, was that SpellBookFrame.lua uses GetNumSpellTabs to get all spells without calling them.. but well... that would only work for lvl 60 chars with all spells.. as sorting of the spells changes when you learn new spells.. |
| 20:10.51 | Tem | I'm quite pleased with the way it works so far |
| 20:10.59 | Randor | im not ;) |
| 20:11.14 | Tem | I'm talking about my memoizing table |
| 20:11.36 | kergoth | !praise functables |
| 20:11.37 | purl | All hail functables! |
| 20:11.39 | kergoth | i like it |
| 20:11.49 | kergoth | dont have any criticisms of the implementation offhand |
| 20:12.07 | Randor | well, your idea of using the globalstrings would help for regexes (hitsmode could be much more efficient with it) but most addons won't improve by this knowledge.. |
| 20:13.00 | Tem | the call semantics are ItemCompare:Parse(itemID,tooltip) and it's all gravy. as long as an itemID is available, it never has to parse an item twice in the same session |
| 20:14.14 | kergoth | right right, thats slick. we should produce memoized tooltip scanning functions for some of the other SetXItem functions too |
| 20:14.47 | Tem | It does it for *all* the SetXItem functions |
| 20:15.03 | Tem | just a sec... I'll post the rest of my code |
| 20:15.05 | kergoth | oh really? i didnt realize |
| 20:15.09 | kergoth | very cool |
| 20:15.47 | kergoth | are you thinking about putting these methods in the acegui tooltip handling stuff? |
| 20:15.49 | Tem | but I can't memoize for the ones that don't have a GetXXXItemLink |
| 20:15.54 | kergoth | ahh right |
| 20:15.57 | Neriak | Hello all |
| 20:16.01 | kergoth | hey Neriak |
| 20:16.02 | Tem | heya Neriak |
| 20:16.10 | Randor | moin neriak |
| 20:16.20 | Neriak | who can solve my riddle ? http://neriak.pbwiki.com/PasteBin |
| 20:16.25 | Neriak | I've given up on this |
| 20:17.00 | Tem | http://pastebin.com/400241 |
| 20:18.11 | kergoth | Tem: oh that is sweet. kci needs to use that :) |
| 20:18.21 | Tem | which part? |
| 20:19.09 | Tem | The way I handle the hooks? |
| 20:19.13 | kergoth | just the cleanliness of the hooking |
| 20:19.14 | kergoth | yeah |
| 20:19.34 | Tem | I'm pleased with the way it came out |
| 20:19.57 | Tem | the only part I'm unsure of is how many parameter / return values I should keep track of |
| 20:20.11 | Tem | I decided to declare them since it avoids calls to unpack |
| 20:20.31 | kergoth | nod. less table construction and unpacking is good, but .. hmm |
| 20:20.43 | Tem | I haven't found anything that needs more than 3 arguments |
| 20:20.53 | Tem | and I only know of one that has return values |
| 20:20.55 | Tem | and it's only got 2 |
| 20:21.34 | kergoth | i wonder if anyone has looked at enhancing lua error handling. some sort of try: .. except handling for raising and catching exceptions would be slick |
| 20:21.36 | Tem | ugh.. I hate the way pastebin murders my indentation |
| 20:21.41 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:22.10 | Tem | check out my limbo |
| 20:22.15 | Tem | I'm proud of limbo |
| 20:22.35 | Tem | it's where tooltips that get registered go when they are unregistered by disable |
| 20:25.23 | Tem | time for rehearsal bbl |
| 20:25.47 | Tem[Away] | oh kergoth: when I get back... I wanna get into the svn |
| 20:26.09 | kergoth | k, cool |
| 20:26.40 | Tem[Away] | I expect to have ItemCompare working by tonight |
| 20:26.46 | Tem[Away] | and when I go, I wanna post it up there |
| 20:27.07 | Tem[Away] | s/go/do/ |
| 20:27.17 | kergoth | sounds good |
| 20:27.43 | Neriak | kergoth: I really tried everything that I'm able to, but I can't get the self:TableIsEmpty function to work :-/ It's the last missing part to complete my addon for releasing it .. |
| 20:28.11 | Neriak | btw I've tried three versions of that function ... those of chatscroll and your for k, v ... |
| 20:28.25 | kergoth | Neriak: link me to your current addon code in its entirety, and the behavior you expect, and i'll poke at it |
| 20:28.39 | kergoth | or email it |
| 20:28.52 | Neriak | hang on please |
| 20:30.07 | Neriak | http://www.neriak.de/files/Denial_WIP18.zip |
| 20:30.51 | Neriak | When you run it, try '/dnl block all' |
| 20:31.29 | Neriak | It should check if the block table is empty, and when it's true set all block options to true, if not set block to {} |
| 20:31.59 | Neriak | Also it should tell me my block table is empty at self:Enable() |
| 20:32.05 | Neriak | but it doesn't .. *sigh* |
| 20:33.56 | Neriak | Oh and yes it can block most things and skip some gossips .. that's the main purpose of it ;) |
| 20:35.23 | kergoth | neat :) okay, i'll poke at it in a bit. gonna read a book |
| 20:35.58 | Tain | You blockhead |
| 20:36.29 | Neriak | Thank you kergoth :) |
| 20:36.41 | Neriak | Tain: ! |
| 20:37.10 | Neriak | you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. |
| 20:40.10 | Ratbert_CP | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.32 | Neriak | oh and kergoth, replace line 61 with this when you're at it. -> if self:TableIsEmpty(self:Get("block")) then |
| 20:41.10 | Neriak | self.Hook("AddonName", "Function of that Addon", Method of your Addon") |
| 20:41.26 | Neriak | self:Hook even. |
| 20:41.41 | Ratbert_CP | Sorry, not an Aced AddOn... Just asking general Lua/WoW question... |
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| 20:42.29 | Neriak | oh .. I can't answer this, since I started coding with Ace from the beginning ;) |
| 20:42.47 | Ratbert_CP | function FlexSmartPet_MimicPetButtons() |
| 20:42.48 | Ratbert_CP | Pre_UpdateSmartPet_MimicPetButtons() |
| 20:42.48 | Ratbert_CP | FlexSmartPet_UpdateSmartPet() |
| 20:42.48 | Ratbert_CP | end |
| 20:42.48 | Ratbert_CP | local Pre_UpdateSmartPet_MimicPetButtons = FB_MimicPetButtons |
| 20:42.48 | Ratbert_CP | FB_MimicPetButtons = FlexSmartPet_MimicPetButtons |
| 20:43.06 | Randor | hm.. somebody else using gaim as irc client here? |
| 20:43.10 | Neriak | yes, this looks correct to me tho ;) |
| 20:43.37 | Randor | do you know if /msg works with gaim? |
| 20:43.45 | Ratbert_CP | Dunno... :) |
| 20:43.49 | Randor | :) |
| 20:44.03 | Randor | i just sent you something.. |
| 20:44.22 | Ratbert_CP | Got nothin... |
| 20:44.25 | Randor | no idea if it really was sent.. but it *magically vanished* from my client :D |
| 20:44.26 | Randor | ok.. |
| 20:44.33 | Neriak | hehe |
| 20:44.49 | Randor | neriak, did you get my "normal" query? |
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| 20:46.01 | Neriak | nope |
| 20:46.13 | Randor | hm... i start loving gaim more and more.. |
| 20:46.20 | Neriak | I guess Gaim is clicky only ;) |
| 20:46.36 | Randor | i guess you're right.. |
| 20:46.45 | Randor | at least i can use it on most os... |
| 20:46.53 | Randor | ok then here :D or can you query me pls? |
| 20:47.45 | Randor | neriak: moecht ja nicht stoeren, aber erwartest du bei function (self, t) nicht zwei parameter? (habe noch keine erfahrung mit ace oder lua...) |
| 20:47.59 | Randor | that i am trying to send you since a while ;) |
| 20:48.56 | Neriak | self bedeutet ich weise es meinem object (Denial) zu ... also kann ich es mit self:TableIsEmpty(t) aufrufen |
| 20:49.05 | weab | wow i actually verstehen that. |
| 20:49.09 | Neriak | btw query geht nicht, mein nick ist wieder unregistriert grr. |
| 20:49.15 | Neriak | lol weab ;) |
| 20:49.20 | Neriak | where you come from ? |
| 20:49.25 | Randor | so maybe it isn't gaim's fault ;) |
| 20:49.36 | weab | i'm texan |
| 20:49.38 | Randor | (22:45:15) Neriak: where you come from ? <= weab or me? :D |
| 20:49.43 | Neriak | weab |
| 20:49.43 | Randor | texan... hm.. |
| 20:50.00 | weab | i took a number of years of german in high school |
| 20:50.04 | weab | but its been a long time |
| 20:50.06 | Neriak | and you can understand us ? ... jesus |
| 20:50.11 | Neriak | that's scary hehe |
| 20:50.14 | Randor | if i'd written "neriak no quiero estorbar pero..." i'd know why you understood it.. but german.. |
| 20:50.14 | Randor | :D |
| 20:50.26 | Neriak | lol |
| 20:50.36 | Neriak | nice weab. |
| 20:50.41 | weab | ich kann nur ein bischen Deutsche :p |
| 20:50.46 | Neriak | ! |
| 20:51.04 | Randor | more than i'd expect from the *average* american.. ;) |
| 20:51.06 | Neriak | That's awesome so far, really. |
| 20:51.11 | Neriak | Yep, same here. |
| 20:51.28 | weab | i enjoyed it |
| 20:51.42 | weab | the endungen and genders and stuff gave me headaches though |
| 20:52.03 | Randor | probably more than most of german pupils... at least you remembered the stuff, try and ask an fifteen year old german what i have written there... :D |
| 20:52.40 | weab | i did an exchange thing |
| 20:52.50 | weab | stayed in germany for a few weeks with a family |
| 20:52.54 | Randor | where have you been then? |
| 20:53.01 | weab | most of the students wanted to speak english to me |
| 20:53.09 | weab | was in munich |
| 20:53.19 | Randor | ok.. almost germany :D |
| 20:53.31 | weab | lol |
| 20:53.34 | Randor | wait |
| 20:53.47 | Randor | i hope you have learned german from non-bavarians? |
| 20:54.30 | weab | yes |
| 20:55.07 | Neriak | hahaha |
| 20:55.46 | Randor | ok, so at least your problems understanding the language haven't been due to the strange sounds that even i won't understand... ;) |
| 20:55.51 | Neriak | bavarians actually speaking the most horrid slang on earth ;) |
| 20:56.17 | Tain | Will ace:print(nil) print anything at all? |
| 20:56.39 | Industrial | nil != nothing |
| 20:57.01 | Neriak | nope just an empty line, tine |
| 20:57.07 | Neriak | err tain ;) |
| 20:57.09 | Tain | That's ~= ;) And that doesn't answer my question, Ind. |
| 20:57.29 | Industrial | right, too used to != :| why is it ~= in lua anyway |
| 20:57.36 | Tain | Makes no sense. |
| 20:57.43 | Neriak | because it looks leet |
| 20:57.45 | Industrial | "hey lets make it ~= LOLOLOL!!!111eleven111oneoneone" |
| 20:57.51 | Tain | I've seen !=, I've see, <>, never seen ~= |
| 20:58.16 | Randor | (22:51:46) Neriak: bavarians actually speaking the most horrid slang on earth ;) <= if it would sound good at least.. like uhm.. greek or japanese.. but no.. they must communicate with coughs and snorts... *sigh |
| 20:58.34 | Neriak | =) so true |
| 20:58.48 | weab | we werent taught much slang |
| 20:58.54 | Tain | Neriak: Have you tried sending debug print output on different parts of your TableIsEmpty? |
| 20:58.58 | weab | everything "proper" |
| 20:59.08 | Randor | weab, there isn't much to learn anyway :D |
| 20:59.25 | Industrial | bavarian? i only know bavaria and thats beer |
| 20:59.35 | Tain | It looks like it should be right, so I'd throw a bunch of prints in to see what the code thinks the values actually are. |
| 20:59.57 | Industrial | !seen rowne |
| 21:00.15 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 23h 51m 44s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 21:00.15 | Industrial | !seen Rowne |
| 21:00.17 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 3d 23h 51m 46s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 21:00.26 | Industrial | :@ |
| 21:00.26 | Tain | I think purl eloped with rowne. |
| 21:00.26 | Industrial | hehe |
| 21:00.34 | Tain | !anigo |
| 21:00.42 | Tain | !inigo |
| 21:00.44 | purl | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 21:00.44 | Tain | Yeesh |
| 21:00.50 | Tain | You're so right, purl. |
| 21:01.58 | Industrial | so |
| 21:02.01 | Industrial | who are bavarians |
| 21:02.02 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:02.43 | Randor | industrial, wrong question.. |
| 21:04.32 | Industrial | rephrase: What is bavarian |
| 21:04.52 | Randor | better |
| 21:05.20 | Industrial | oh right, some dialect |
| 21:06.06 | Randor | q: what are bavarians, a: 1)inhabitants of southern germany 2)mammals that are able to communicate with each other in strange sounds and dress horribly.. don't wanna think about how they reproduce....uhm |
| 21:06.25 | Industrial | Ich Spreche auch ein betchen Deutch yay \o/, aber nicht soviel. |
| 21:06.36 | Industrial | bin nederlandisch :E |
| 21:07.05 | Randor | oh, ein niederlaender, war vor drei wochen erst auf ameland ;) |
| 21:07.17 | Industrial | hehe o |
| 21:07.24 | Neriak | Tain: the problem is, that TableIsEmpty functions actually works in non AceDB code .. |
| 21:07.33 | Industrial | Randor: probiert mal am nederlandisch zo sprechen haha :P (did i say that right? thry to talk in dutch :E) |
| 21:07.36 | Neriak | Kergoth proved me it works |
| 21:07.51 | Industrial | try* |
| 21:08.08 | Industrial | we need dutch servers in wow :| |
| 21:08.20 | Industrial | lots of dutch players but NO germany and france are bigger :| |
| 21:08.37 | Randor | industrial: ik heb verstaan |
| 21:08.51 | Tain | Ihr Vater sollte Sie in die Ecke gesprizt haben. |
| 21:08.56 | Randor | lol tain |
| 21:09.03 | Industrial | hell we probably have the highest number of citizens per square meter! |
| 21:09.04 | Neriak | rofl |
| 21:09.15 | Industrial | in the world! |
| 21:09.17 | Randor | nice thing to say to your would-be father in law :D |
| 21:09.37 | Industrial | Ecke? :D? |
| 21:09.38 | Randor | industrial, the japanese and mexicans compete fairly well i think ;) |
| 21:09.59 | Industrial | Randor: i don't think so, those countries are BIG compared to the netherlands :> |
| 21:10.19 | Neriak | I would love to understand japanese .. so I'd be able to watch all anime in o-tone ;) |
| 21:10.25 | Industrial | hehehe |
| 21:10.28 | Randor | industrial: and thay have a BIG number of inhabitants compared to the netherlands ;) |
| 21:10.29 | Industrial | baka :P |
| 21:10.40 | Industrial | Randor: true dat |
| 21:10.47 | Randor | neriak, japanese is easier to learn than english or german |
| 21:11.07 | Neriak | demo .. |
| 21:11.33 | Neriak | I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) |
| 21:12.04 | Randor | forget declination of verbs, you have no past tense, no future... i think the most difficult thing is to get rid of the *european grammar*, and well.. their alphabet is a bit more complex than ours ;) |
| 21:12.08 | Industrial | almost all japanese words end with a i o u e its funny to hear them speak english :D |
| 21:12.12 | Industrial | engrish, that is |
| 21:12.13 | Randor | uhm yes there are some to start with |
| 21:12.33 | Industrial | but they probably do alot better then all the wapanese guys :> |
| 21:13.10 | Industrial | i know how to count to 10 in japanese? |
| 21:13.21 | Randor | industrial, that's because there is no equivalent for a difference between r and l for japanese-speaking.. similliar to the spanish ll or n~ |
| 21:13.41 | Neriak | Randor: That sounds quite interesting. |
| 21:13.55 | Industrial | ichi ni san shi go roku shichi hachi kyuu jyuu |
| 21:14.06 | Industrial | heh, i get drilled with that 3x a week |
| 21:14.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:14.30 | Randor | neriak, i'll search them on my webserver.. can't find them online anymore :( |
| 21:15.02 | Industrial | i wish there was gtypist for windows o_O |
| 21:15.09 | Industrial | (off topic, horribly) |
| 21:15.18 | Randor | pardon, gtypist? |
| 21:16.16 | Industrial | yeah its a *nix typing tool, i need to get some lessons >_> |
| 21:16.46 | Industrial | its the only typing tool i've seen that works in a terminal, and also the only one thats open source that actually tries to teach you how to yupe |
| 21:16.56 | Industrial | also includes dvorak and quick use of the numpad etc |
| 21:16.57 | Randor | you need a tool for typing? (typing faster/more accurate?) |
| 21:17.05 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:17.10 | Randor | hm.. |
| 21:17.11 | Industrial | as you see, my typing is horrible |
| 21:17.34 | Randor | well, i understand you, so it is good enough for me ;) |
| 21:17.49 | Industrial | it already learnt me to type blindly (VERY SLOW like this) in qwerty in 4 days |
| 21:17.52 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 21:18.24 | Industrial | http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/ |
| 21:18.27 | Randor | hm.. don't you have a spare box where you could install linux? |
| 21:18.27 | Industrial | :) |
| 21:18.33 | Industrial | sure, i have multiboot |
| 21:18.47 | Industrial | archlinux |
| 21:18.48 | Randor | not multiboot, seperate pc |
| 21:18.51 | Industrial | no :( |
| 21:18.53 | Randor | hm.. |
| 21:19.09 | Randor | emerge -av gtypist <= i have gentoo below my laptop... (looking at gtypist |
| 21:19.33 | Industrial | i already have multiboot, but i spend most of my time being productive, hooking up chicks on the internet (yes im an e-thug, what up lol)and playing games on windows |
| 21:19.38 | Industrial | Randor: its really nice |
| 21:19.48 | Randor | it's useful |
| 21:20.24 | Stylpe | !seen rowne |
| 21:20.27 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 4d 11m 56s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 21:20.29 | Industrial | =( |
| 21:20.51 | Tain | おはよう。 |
| 21:20.55 | Industrial | kergoth: you are 9 minutes behind |
| 21:21.17 | Industrial | Tain: no such characters in my font |
| 21:21.29 | Industrial | searched google, but i already knew what to expect |
| 21:21.42 | Tain | Yeah me neither. Can't make them. |
| 21:22.24 | Tain | Oh well! |
| 21:23.17 | Industrial | Randor: its in cygwin but that junk is not getting on my pc |
| 21:23.44 | Randor | cygwin is nice, but well.. |
| 21:23.51 | Industrial | i dont like it |
| 21:24.21 | Randor | well, i have cygwin to get me X on windows ;) |
| 21:24.27 | Industrial | hehe yeah ok |
| 21:24.33 | Industrial | guess i havent really tried using it |
| 21:24.41 | Randor | it's still buggy.. but better than nothing |
| 21:24.49 | Tain | cygwin is great, but only if you're really going to use it for a full environment. |
| 21:25.04 | Tain | It's not good for say just running some unix commands on a Windows box. |
| 21:25.06 | Industrial | oh noes a terminal inside a horrid MS-DOS window! wich i hate! and therefore do not use cli on windows! delete! |
| 21:25.07 | Industrial | kinda |
| 21:25.12 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:25.24 | Tain | And I only say that because of the overhead. |
| 21:26.09 | Tain | But if you want to use bash as your cmd.exe then it's smooth sailing, really. |
| 21:26.36 | Industrial | well let me try it agina |
| 21:26.40 | Industrial | but only for gtypist o_O |
| 21:27.28 | Tain | Get the gtypist source and recompile it as a Windows app. |
| 21:28.06 | Industrial | cygwin has it |
| 21:28.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:28.26 | Industrial | hm i still had my packages dir from the last time i tried it |
| 21:28.31 | Industrial | how convenient |
| 21:28.49 | Industrial | s/had/have |
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| 21:52.16 | kergoth | SO fast |
| 21:52.46 | Neriak | jealous |
| 21:52.47 | Neriak | even |
| 21:53.25 | kergoth | now to reinstall linux, even though i just did last night |
| 21:53.29 | kergoth | switching to an amd64 build :) |
| 21:54.06 | Industrial | ;O |
| 21:54.19 | Industrial | ker |
| 21:54.28 | Industrial | you going to run wow with cedega? |
| 21:54.46 | kergoth | thats the plan |
| 21:54.52 | kergoth | friend of mine has it working |
| 21:56.38 | kergoth | i prefer using a windows build of rxvt to just running bash in a windows terminal |
| 21:56.42 | kergoth | behaves better |
| 21:57.25 | Industrial | yes but do the addons work |
| 21:57.30 | Industrial | oh nevermind, that was so stupid |
| 21:57.32 | Industrial | lua is embedded |
| 21:57.36 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:57.57 | Tain | Linux is a hack language! |
| 21:58.21 | Industrial | oh noes the black window thing yiwth the text linux! |
| 21:58.27 | Industrial | me: no thats ms-dos |
| 21:58.28 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:58.59 | Industrial | kergoth: go for archlinux \o/ thougj i dont know about amd64 |
| 21:59.12 | Industrial | kergoth: o wait you were the debian dev? |
| 21:59.26 | Industrial | oh i remember you were the kernel dev, jamessan was the debian dev :> |
| 21:59.31 | Industrial | nm |
| 21:59.34 | *** join/##ace Plorkyeran (n=Knightki@129.10.214.198) |
| 21:59.58 | kergoth | heh, i havent gotten off my ass and submitted my application to become a debian dev, and a gentoo dev, yet |
| 22:00.15 | kergoth | have people to support both, just need to deal with the red tape |
| 22:00.27 | Randor | red tape? |
| 22:00.55 | Industrial | haha |
| 22:01.07 | Industrial | red ribbon was not dragonball z though, it was dragonball |
| 22:01.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:01.11 | Industrial | well, most of it |
| 22:01.33 | Randor | they appeared @ z too (iirc) |
| 22:01.37 | Industrial | kergoth: ever tried archlinux? any distro i need to try? |
| 22:01.40 | Industrial | Randor: correct |
| 22:02.03 | Industrial | kergoth: i need to be very careful with my hd thoug, my work files are on it :P its already multiboot |
| 22:02.40 | Randor | dvd-rw for teh win? ;) |
| 22:03.11 | kergoth | Industrial: heh, grab a vmware trial and test out different linux distros. |
| 22:03.31 | kergoth | i've never used archlinux. generally recommend ubuntu or gentoo |
| 22:03.48 | Industrial | tried gentoo once |
| 22:03.51 | Industrial | took me 3 days to install |
| 22:03.53 | Industrial | fucked it up |
| 22:04.16 | Industrial | Randor: http://www.batbox.org/nslu2-linux.html + 250GB HD :) (or so, cant remember...) |
| 22:04.39 | Industrial | my dad owns it, i cant touch it :> i can put my files on it though |
| 22:05.24 | Industrial | kergoth: i liked slackware best, tried all known distros.. |
| 22:05.29 | Industrial | well, well known |
| 22:05.37 | Industrial | then moved to arch =) |
| 22:05.59 | kergoth | bleh, not a fan of slackware. used it for years. dislike their distributionisms, dislike their packaging format, dislike their packaging tools |
| 22:06.25 | Industrial | dragonforce! |
| 22:06.33 | Industrial | cant get enough of this o_O |
| 22:06.41 | Industrial | "discovered it" 2 days ago |
| 22:07.03 | Industrial | been listening to the same album non stop with earplugs at work and here at home |
| 22:07.27 | Industrial | its actually a power metal band with lyrics that dont suck |
| 22:07.33 | Industrial | i think thats because they are form the UK |
| 22:07.43 | Industrial | not yugoslavia or whatever |
| 22:07.44 | Industrial | :| |
| 22:08.56 | Randor | ok folks, gotta go to bed now.. my wife starts pulling me to the dorm ;) |
| 22:09.10 | Industrial | Proud and so glorious standing before of us Our swords will shine bright in the sky When united we come to the land of the sun With the heart of a dragon we ride |
| 22:09.14 | Neriak | good night randor :) |
| 22:09.16 | Industrial | yeah! |
| 22:09.17 | Industrial | :D |
| 22:09.19 | Industrial | nn Randor |
| 22:09.34 | Randor | g'night everybody ;) |
| 22:09.39 | *** part/##ace Randor (n=Wolvie@xdsl-84-44-193-155.netcologne.de) |
| 22:09.41 | Neriak | kergoth: I've fixed it ... it is the self arg that's causing a problem |
| 22:09.53 | Neriak | it seems TableISEmpty always returning false then |
| 22:10.12 | kergoth | thats what i told you last week, remember? :P |
| 22:10.18 | Neriak | yes :) |
| 22:10.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:10.23 | kergoth | well at least it works |
| 22:10.30 | Neriak | right, I'm happy ;) |
| 22:10.32 | kergoth | you have svn access yet? |
| 22:10.34 | kergoth | ;) |
| 22:10.41 | Neriak | no, but I like to have |
| 22:10.43 | Industrial | With the vision of a great divide You turn towards the other side You think you run but you can't hide The dead can not ride |
| 22:10.46 | Industrial | brilliant |
| 22:10.50 | kergoth | k |
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| 22:11.41 | Industrial | lo nak |
| 22:12.00 | Neriak | hiya nak |
| 22:12.03 | Nakitomimaru | Morning. Any luck? |
| 22:13.39 | Industrial | with the heart of a dragon, heart of sa dragon, heaaaart of a a dragooon we riiiii hiiii hiii hii hi hi hiiiiide |
| 22:13.52 | Industrial | =) |
| 22:14.28 | Neriak | I'd like to hear that sang by Rowne :P |
| 22:14.35 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:14.46 | Neriak | So where's the wav anyway ?! |
| 22:15.01 | Neriak | I've never heard Rowne's voice, so I'm curious as hell |
| 22:15.15 | kergoth | i have it on my fileserver somewhere |
| 22:15.19 | kergoth | not sure where i put it, but its there somewhere |
| 22:15.26 | Neriak | because he's always saying it sounds high-pitched and nasal :P |
| 22:15.44 | Industrial | aww have to go :( kids-bedtime :( (j/k work at 9) |
| 22:16.00 | Industrial | nn |
| 22:16.01 | Neriak | work at 9 ? I've got work at 6 *shiver* |
| 22:16.05 | Industrial | heh |
| 22:16.06 | Neriak | nn id |
| 22:16.06 | kergoth | eww |
| 22:18.24 | Neriak | so, kergoth: what do I need to use the svn ? an url, password and some tools (commandline or gui) ? |
| 22:18.54 | Neriak | I've already took a look and it doesn't seem too difficult for me. |
| 22:19.16 | Neriak | But I love that system, especially the changelines |
| 22:19.19 | Neriak | brilliant |
| 22:21.21 | kergoth | install tortoisesvn on your windows box, or svn on your linux box |
| 22:21.31 | kergoth | tell me your preferred username, i set you up there |
| 22:21.38 | kergoth | then give you the svn repository url, and you can check it out and have at it |
| 22:25.32 | Neriak | I'll use NEriak as username |
| 22:25.37 | Neriak | err Neriak |
| 22:25.39 | kergoth | k |
| 22:25.47 | kergoth | i'm about to reinstall linux, switching to the amd64 build |
| 22:25.53 | kergoth | i'll set you up in a few minutes when i get back |
| 22:26.14 | Neriak | oh which TableIsEmpty function would you choose as a standard btw ? https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/OptionHandlerUtils#preview |
| 22:26.28 | Neriak | Sure no hurry. |
| 22:26.42 | kergoth | TableIsEmpty = function(t) return next(t) == nil end |
| 22:26.47 | kergoth | thats the most efficient, cleanest one |
| 22:27.00 | kergoth | k bbiaf |
| 22:27.00 | Neriak | I thought that too, I love it :) |
| 22:27.03 | Neriak | k |
| 22:29.27 | Stylpe | Does anyone here own RDKF? |
| 22:29.53 | Neriak | yup, no original tho *ashamed* |
| 22:30.13 | Tem[Away] | Stylpe: Rowne, does |
| 22:31.09 | Neriak | But I'm already tired playing it .. single player sucks and my wrist hurts after some time ;) |
| 22:31.12 | Stylpe | I know rowne does |
| 22:31.25 | Stylpe | I just posted my first skin at the Ace forums =P |
| 22:31.30 | Neriak | :) |
| 22:31.48 | Neriak | a Mini-Stylpe ? |
| 22:31.50 | Tem | !rowne |
| 22:31.52 | purl | rowne is, like, missing |
| 22:31.57 | Tem | lol! |
| 22:32.01 | Tem | !seen rowne |
| 22:32.06 | purl | rowne <n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com> was last seen on IRC in channel ##ace, 4d 1h 23m 35s ago, saying: 'There's a BugSack a/R.4 out.'. |
| 22:32.06 | Nakitomimaru | 1011 10Tem,11 rowne 11(n=Wuff@81-178-112-78.dsl.pipex.com11) was last seen when 11[Joining11]: ##ace 10[4days 16hrs 55mins 11secs10] ago 121011UPP1012 |
| 22:32.06 | Stylpe | I taught her that |
| 22:32.11 | Neriak | !Neriak |
| 22:32.15 | Tem | !emulate me |
| 22:32.16 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm making a new [something]! |
| 22:32.17 | Tem | !emulate Tem |
| 22:32.19 | purl | Metatables are your friend, embrace them. |
| 22:32.29 | Stylpe | !emulate stylpe |
| 22:32.31 | purl | Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering. |
| 22:32.33 | Neriak | !emulate me |
| 22:32.45 | Neriak | from what does it take this information ? |
| 22:32.57 | Tem | you have to set it |
| 22:32.57 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:33.05 | Tem | !literal emulate tem |
| 22:33.06 | purl | "emulate tem" is "<reply> ZOMG! I've found 5,273 ways to break Warcraft now. Slooouuken?||<reply> Dammit, that's it. I'm making a new [something]!||<reply>Metatables are your friend, embrace them.||<reply>Tem is a bomb, Tem will go boom now." |
| 22:33.23 | Neriak | hehe |
| 22:33.33 | phyber | 23:32:31 < purl> Y'know, sometimes I wish I could just pause RL for a day or two, just so I could do what I want, without anything or anyone interfering. |
| 22:33.36 | phyber | heh |
| 22:33.44 | phyber | there was a kids show in the UK a while ago where the guy could do that. |
| 22:33.49 | phyber | Bernard's Watch. |
| 22:33.54 | phyber | i think it was called. |
| 22:34.08 | Neriak | !help |
| 22:35.48 | Neriak | !scramble this |
| 22:35.58 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak is <reply> I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) || <reply> you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. || <emote> <3 unicode |
| 22:35.59 | purl | Stylpe: okay |
| 22:36.06 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:36.07 | purl | you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. |
| 22:36.07 | Neriak | lol |
| 22:36.21 | Stylpe | bah, 5 sec cooldown =P |
| 22:36.23 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:36.24 | purl | you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. |
| 22:36.27 | Stylpe | aww |
| 22:36.39 | Stylpe | I wanna know if the <emote> works |
| 22:36.41 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:36.43 | purl | you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. |
| 22:36.46 | Tem | it should be <action> |
| 22:36.49 | Tem | not emote |
| 22:36.52 | Stylpe | bah |
| 22:36.55 | Stylpe | I'll fix it |
| 22:36.59 | Neriak | with which command do I teach him ? |
| 22:37.01 | Stylpe | !forget neriak |
| 22:37.01 | purl | Stylpe: i didn't have anything called 'neriak' to forget |
| 22:37.08 | Stylpe | !forget emulate neriak |
| 22:37.08 | purl | Stylpe: i forgot emulate neriak |
| 22:37.14 | Tem | purl: no, emulate neriak is <reply> I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) || <reply> you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. || <action> <3 unicode |
| 22:37.16 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 22:37.21 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak is <reply> I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) || <reply> you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. || <action> <3 unicode |
| 22:37.23 | purl | i already had it that way, Stylpe |
| 22:37.31 | Stylpe | meh |
| 22:37.45 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:37.46 | purl | I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) |
| 22:37.50 | Neriak | ;) |
| 22:37.58 | Stylpe | !emulate neriak |
| 22:38.00 | purl | ACTION <3 unicode |
| 22:38.04 | Stylpe | yay :D |
| 22:38.42 | Stylpe | Tem: Is there a way to add alternatives, or do I have to re-teach the whole thing? |
| 22:39.02 | Neriak | All Semicolons must die! |
| 22:39.12 | Neriak | teach him this one please :P |
| 22:39.27 | Tem | reteach the whole thing |
| 22:39.38 | Stylpe | purl: no, emulate neriak is <reply> I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) || <reply> you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. || <action> <3 unicode || <reply> All semicolons must die! |
| 22:39.40 | purl | okay, Stylpe |
| 22:39.46 | Neriak | ah .. |
| 22:39.48 | Stylpe | It is done |
| 22:39.53 | Neriak | !emulate me |
| 22:39.54 | purl | All semicolons must die! |
| 22:39.58 | Neriak | Yay! |
| 22:41.00 | Stylpe | Some day I hope someone will add quotes from me without me knowing. That way I'd be in for a pleasant surprise :D |
| 22:41.59 | Stylpe | Oh, and Tem, is there a way to add multi-line emulates? |
| 22:42.16 | Tem | no :( |
| 22:42.20 | Stylpe | aww |
| 22:42.23 | Tem | I *really* wanted to though |
| 22:42.27 | Stylpe | !emulate hajimi |
| 22:42.29 | purl | Fat Bong :O <reply> Fat Bong :( <reply> I am so annoyed. |
| 22:42.40 | Stylpe | I discovered that doesn't work |
| 22:43.17 | Stylpe | purl: no, emulate hajimi is <reply> Fat Bong :O Fat Bong :( I am so annoyed. |
| 22:43.18 | purl | okay, Stylpe |
| 22:43.29 | Stylpe | The next best thing. |
| 22:44.02 | Stylpe | !emulate filthy ninja is <reply>:P :P :P |
| 22:44.04 | purl | Stylpe: okay |
| 22:44.17 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 22:44.19 | purl | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 22:49.13 | Tem | kergoth: you back yet? I need to bug you about svn |
| 22:53.05 | kergoth | :D |
| 22:53.43 | kergoth | hrm? |
| 22:53.48 | Tem | svn |
| 22:53.48 | kergoth | !emulate fry |
| 22:53.49 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 22:53.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:54.00 | kergoth | mmk, let me get X up |
| 22:54.02 | kergoth | i'm in console atm |
| 22:54.07 | Tem | oh dear... |
| 22:54.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:56.10 | Tem | yum make install xchat-gnome |
| 22:56.28 | kergoth | apt-get install xchat-gnome |
| 22:56.49 | Tem | rpm install xhat |
| 22:58.03 | kergoth | wow, ubuntu breezy's gnome is really perty |
| 22:58.13 | kergoth | bleeding edge stuff |
| 23:04.38 | Stylpe | bed time, goodnight |
| 23:10.18 | Tem | haha the logic line of the gods! |
| 23:10.21 | Tem | (delta>0) and " |cff00ff00(+"..delta..")|r" or ((delta<0) and " |cffff0000("..delta..")|r" or " (+0)") |
| 23:11.11 | Tem | kergoth: did you get X running yet? |
| 23:11.33 | kergoth | yeah, and man, its so perty |
| 23:11.42 | kergoth | bleeding edge gnome. gorgious, and everything Just Works(tm) |
| 23:11.56 | kergoth | not as efficient or fast as my usual setup though |
| 23:11.57 | kergoth | i'm torn |
| 23:12.03 | Tem | how do like that logic? |
| 23:12.10 | Tem | ^you |
| 23:12.26 | kergoth | hehe. cute |
| 23:12.43 | Tem | that replaces an if then elseif else end statement |
| 23:12.54 | Tem | oops |
| 23:12.59 | Tem | if then elseif them else end |
| 23:13.05 | Tem | damnit... |
| 23:13.12 | Tem | if then elseif then else end |
| 23:13.27 | kergoth | man, this is so pretty and easy to use, i should load this on my girlfriend's machine |
| 23:13.42 | kergoth | just as easy as windows or more, and less crashy and not prone to spyware madness |
| 23:14.10 | Tem | focus! |
| 23:14.12 | Tem | svn! |
| 23:14.15 | kergoth | oh yeah :) |
| 23:14.26 | Tem | cripes.. you're just as easily sidetracked as me |
| 23:14.34 | kergoth | indeed |
| 23:15.16 | kergoth | guh |
| 23:15.22 | kergoth | gmail has, at the bottom of my inbox: |
| 23:15.25 | kergoth | 1-20 of thousands |
| 23:15.26 | Tem | that was weird... gaim had a hard time renedering those letters for a second... and "pass to the ace project" looked encryted... |
| 23:15.28 | kergoth | methinks thats not a good sign |
| 23:15.36 | Tem | encrypted* |
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| 23:40.49 | Neriak | nn all |
| 23:43.29 | *** join/##ace Parak (n=profi@user-12hdr8d.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:58.36 | kergoth | 4331 unread mails in my inbox. |
| 23:58.37 | kergoth | sigh. |
