| 00:00.04 | Rowne | Try the chat-options too Tain, make sure it all works. |
| 00:00.06 | Rowne | Then I'll comment it all up. |
| 00:00.12 | Rowne | And make it ready for class consumption. |
| 00:00.14 | kergoth | barely managed to bs my way through a complex, yet believable, explanation for my lack of productivity and bad attendance, today |
| 00:00.18 | Tain | Rowwwwwnnne |
| 00:00.32 | Tain | Touchdown.lua:69: attempt to index global 'const' (a nil value) |
| 00:00.49 | Rowne | Whaaat? |
| 00:00.57 | Cair | careful there kerg, gonna find yourself out of a job if that keeps up |
| 00:01.12 | Rowne | Oh, oops. |
| 00:01.16 | Rowne | I forgot the local. |
| 00:01.23 | kergoth | Cair: yeah, been there, done that. |
| 00:01.31 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TouchdownR1-2.zip |
| 00:01.34 | Tain | I'd like to find myself out of a job. |
| 00:01.48 | Tain | But because it would mean I'm going to a new one |
| 00:01.53 | kergoth | i used depression as an excuse this time. i actually have been diagnosed with it, but that wasnt why i was unproductive last week :P |
| 00:02.09 | Cair | having to *explain* lack of productivity and bad attendance is a major clue that they're watching you and *not* happy |
| 00:02.42 | kergoth | well.. |
| 00:02.45 | kergoth | one day last week i overslept.. |
| 00:02.48 | kergoth | to 4:30 pm ! |
| 00:02.49 | Tain | Yeah but if you get a doctor to say he's treating you for depression they can't do anything about it. :) |
| 00:03.01 | Cair | hey, you don't have to explain it to me |
| 00:03.14 | Cair | just saying, if they are asking, it means they are watching, which means they aren't happy |
| 00:03.21 | kergoth | i havent been on my medication since leaving ti. no medical benefits. so it really is a plausable explanation |
| 00:03.27 | kergoth | when really, i just hate the job, bored out of my mind |
| 00:04.00 | Tain | Rowne, I don't get any chat options. |
| 00:04.18 | Cair | Tain, oh yes they can |
| 00:04.44 | kergoth | Rowne: hehe. i could be like the garbage man in dilbert! |
| 00:04.49 | Rowne | Yes! |
| 00:04.55 | Tain | haha exactly |
| 00:05.10 | Rowne | That's actually the perfect lifestyle for me though if I were working. |
| 00:05.14 | Rowne | A low-end blue-collar job. |
| 00:05.18 | Rowne | So I can be intelligent in my free time. |
| 00:05.22 | kergoth | i'd probably be much happier that way |
| 00:05.27 | kergoth | but .. i like making lots of money |
| 00:05.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:05.34 | Tain | Not in the US at least, Cair. All sorts of great programs for intermitten medical disability. |
| 00:05.37 | kergoth | i like the lifestyle it affords me |
| 00:05.46 | kergoth | quite the dillemma |
| 00:05.58 | Rowne | Yeah but you'd just be happier as a person if you weren't in such a job. |
| 00:06.00 | Rowne | Probably. |
| 00:06.09 | kergoth | Tain: yeah, i made use of the employee assistance program when i was at ti, and a short term disability thingy |
| 00:06.13 | Tain | Yeah there's that whole work life balance. |
| 00:06.13 | Rowne | At the moment you might be using money to substitute happiness. |
| 00:06.33 | Tain | While it's true that money does not buy happiness it does allow you to rent it for short periods of time. |
| 00:06.48 | kergoth | i -really- dont want to get rid of my car |
| 00:06.51 | kergoth | i love my car |
| 00:07.17 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/crossfire/crossfire6.jpg |
| 00:07.29 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TouchdownR1-3.zip |
| 00:07.43 | ToastTheif | Touchdown? |
| 00:07.43 | Rowne | ker: You could get a bicycle? |
| 00:07.51 | Rowne | Um ... ignore it Toast. |
| 00:07.56 | ToastTheif | :( |
| 00:08.02 | Rowne | It's for my upcoming entry-level ace classes. |
| 00:08.14 | Rowne | It's basically a n00b Addon to show new people how to code. |
| 00:08.20 | ToastTheif | score! |
| 00:08.28 | ToastTheif | why should I be ignoring this? llo |
| 00:08.36 | Tain | It doesn't work! |
| 00:08.37 | Rowne | Because it's not commented yet. ;p |
| 00:08.47 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 00:08.49 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 00:08.52 | kergoth | aww |
| 00:08.54 | Rowne | !emulate ash |
| 00:08.55 | purl | Honey, you got real ugly. |
| 00:08.59 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 00:09.01 | purl | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 00:09.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:09.32 | Rowne | Yay, circular logic stems from believing that statement. |
| 00:09.32 | Cair | !emulate someonewithabrain |
| 00:09.33 | Tain | Rowne it doesn't do anything on winning an auction. |
| 00:09.49 | Rowne | Does it have chat-commands now, Tain? |
| 00:09.50 | kergoth | Cair: i think thats rather beyond its capabilities |
| 00:10.06 | Tain | Oh I didn't see another version. |
| 00:10.30 | Cair | programed by a man, of course that is beyond its capabilities |
| 00:10.43 | kergoth | ~herring Cair |
| 00:10.46 | kergoth | erm |
| 00:10.47 | Tain | Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman. |
| 00:10.47 | kergoth | !herring Cair |
| 00:10.48 | purl | ACTION whacks Cair on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 00:11.22 | Cair | careful, two can play those games, and I play a lot nastier |
| 00:11.28 | Tain | I'm assuming it's supposed to be /touchdown |
| 00:11.31 | Rowne | ... |
| 00:11.40 | Rowne | Oh, so THAT'S why it isn't working. |
| 00:11.41 | Tain | Or perhaps /td |
| 00:11.45 | Rowne | One moment, Tain. |
| 00:12.02 | Rowne | I forgot to change that. ;p |
| 00:12.11 | Rowne | This was just cheaply knocked together, anyway. |
| 00:12.25 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TouchdownR1-4.zip |
| 00:12.25 | Tain | haha so I bet /orction works huh |
| 00:12.36 | Rowne | Actually ... /vz ... :p |
| 00:12.44 | Rowne | Since I stole VisorCore's locals for it. |
| 00:12.48 | Tain | That... oh. |
| 00:13.11 | Rowne | That was the only instance of Visor I forgot to change. |
| 00:14.52 | Rowne | Yay for ice-cream! |
| 00:15.50 | Tain | Trade you for some turkey. |
| 00:16.09 | Tain | I loves me some turkey. |
| 00:16.24 | Cair | I dunno ... it's mighty good turkey |
| 00:17.02 | Cair | me thinks you'll have to do better than just some ice cream |
| 00:17.15 | Tain | JUST some ice cream?! |
| 00:17.23 | Tain | This is some quality Haagen Dazs here! |
| 00:17.42 | Tain | Ok ok.. I'll throw in, perfectly free, some whipped cream. |
| 00:17.57 | Rowne | Three packets, thereof! |
| 00:18.16 | Tain | Rowne: Chat options work, does nothing upon winning an auction though. |
| 00:18.18 | Rowne | s/chicken/turkey/ |
| 00:18.25 | Rowne | Nutbunnies, I can't figure out why. |
| 00:18.36 | Tem | ... I *hate* hydra |
| 00:18.38 | Cair | yeah, and this is turkey, glistening golden skin, nice and crispy, amazing bread stuffing, delicious gravy |
| 00:18.50 | Tain | hrm |
| 00:18.52 | kergoth | gah, now i'm hungry |
| 00:18.55 | Tem | I can't read anything that has "scrolled up" |
| 00:19.06 | Tem | because when people type it auto scrolls down |
| 00:19.09 | Rowne | How very drool, Tain. |
| 00:19.11 | Tem | and it's annoying as hell |
| 00:19.19 | Cair | lol Rowne |
| 00:20.30 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TouchdownR1-5.zip |
| 00:20.34 | Rowne | There you go, Tain! |
| 00:20.40 | Rowne | Time to waste more money on an auction! *Hides.* |
| 00:21.10 | Cair | mashed potatoes, maple ginger glazed carrots, yams (sweet potatoes), cranberry sauce made with a double shot of grand marnier |
| 00:21.44 | Tain | Anything! |
| 00:21.46 | Tain | Anything you want! |
| 00:21.51 | Rowne | Oh golly. |
| 00:21.57 | Tain | Just give me the goods! |
| 00:21.58 | Cair | lemon merangue pie with french vanilla ice cream |
| 00:22.13 | Cair | fresh banana bread, straight out of the oven |
| 00:22.20 | Tain | Come on, I'm need some. Just a hit. |
| 00:22.21 | Norque | mmmmm..... piiiiiiiieeeeeee.... |
| 00:23.12 | Cair | and you guys didn't think I needed a hoist and tackle to get back into channel lol |
| 00:23.19 | Cair | mmmmmmmmm |
| 00:23.46 | Cair | now, do I know how to tease, or what? |
| 00:23.56 | Tem | EVERYONE |
| 00:24.00 | Tem | Stop Talking! |
| 00:24.08 | Tem | For like 2 minutes! |
| 00:25.27 | Cair | oh yes, and of course, we can't forget the spread of pickles, rolls, etc, as compliment .. |
| 00:25.47 | Tem | finaly! |
| 00:26.09 | Rowne | Tem: Why not copy the log and paste it into a text editor to be read there? |
| 00:26.25 | Rowne | Oh and Gaim doesn't hop down when you scroll-back. *Happy.* |
| 00:26.25 | Tem | Rowne: because I'm no that smart |
| 00:26.46 | Tem | (no typos there read that In a scottish accent) |
| 00:26.54 | Tain | Ok Rowne, it does work. |
| 00:27.01 | Rowne | Yay! |
| 00:27.06 | Tain | There has to be an option in Hydra to disable jumping down on scrollback. |
| 00:27.07 | Rowne | Does it actually give the item link? |
| 00:27.09 | Rowne | Or just text? |
| 00:27.17 | Tem | Tain: I don't care at this point |
| 00:27.23 | Tem | I just want it gone |
| 00:27.28 | Tain | No item link. |
| 00:27.35 | Rowne | Crap! |
| 00:27.41 | Tem | if I could print out the source code I would go outside and burn it |
| 00:27.41 | Rowne | Can we get item links via item names? |
| 00:27.44 | Tem | then piss on the ashes |
| 00:30.56 | Tem | (I've been meaning to switch to gaim for several days now, but this just puts things over the top) |
| 00:31.10 | Tain | Just one step closer to the edge. |
| 00:31.13 | Tain | And I'm about to break! |
| 00:31.37 | kergoth | good song |
| 00:32.22 | Rowne | Tain: |
| 00:32.30 | Rowne | Take a look in your ChatFrame. |
| 00:32.38 | Rowne | When it says you've won an auction, what's it say where the %s normally is. |
| 00:32.43 | Rowne | Do they give the link or only the text? |
| 00:33.32 | Tain | Actually it's Normally when you win an item there's no link. |
| 00:33.45 | Rowne | Eh? |
| 00:34.02 | Tain | But I am getting an error on login agian. I logged out deleted svs, logged back in and error again |
| 00:34.03 | Rowne | You mean there's never a link when you win an auction? |
| 00:34.11 | Rowne | Which error? |
| 00:34.21 | Tain | line 123: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got function) |
| 00:34.28 | Tain | Normally no you nver get a link when you win an auction. |
| 00:36.09 | Rowne | It should only trigger when you win an auction so that's really odd. |
| 00:37.45 | Tain | Oh wait it also triggered something when I was walking to the auction house. |
| 00:38.07 | Tain | Because he started to say something and then I got a "You can't do that while moving" message |
| 00:38.15 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 00:38.57 | Rowne | Tem, turn of the format bar in the options, you'll be even happier. |
| 00:39.07 | Rowne | Gaim can be really sleek when everything is hidden. |
| 00:39.15 | Tain | Oh and Rowne, when you set the message is it supposed to be that you're supposed to put %s yourself in the message? |
| 00:39.16 | Tem | I was just looking for the option to do that |
| 00:39.21 | Tem | zomg |
| 00:39.22 | Rowne | I genuinely recommend Extended Preferences and Guifications, too. |
| 00:39.27 | Tem | color coding of names |
| 00:39.50 | Rowne | Tain: Yes. |
| 00:39.55 | Rowne | That's where it puts the item name. |
| 00:40.02 | Tem | Rowne, Can I get rid of the user list? |
| 00:40.15 | Rowne | Tem: Drag the vertical bar all the way over to the right. |
| 00:40.23 | Tain | Ok the Chat_MessageError doesn't show up right because in the quotes it's expecting %s to be replaced with something. |
| 00:40.28 | Tem | well that's conveniet |
| 00:40.35 | Tain | So it doesn't actually print the %s out to the user. |
| 00:40.42 | *** topic/##ace by Tem -> Ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons | http://www.wowace.com/ Test |
| 00:40.46 | *** topic/##ace by Tem -> Ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons | http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 00:41.02 | Tem | and how does that go away? or does it? |
| 00:41.14 | Tain | Is it \% to escape an % in a text string? |
| 00:41.19 | Tem | no |
| 00:41.21 | Tem | %% |
| 00:41.26 | Tain | Ah ok |
| 00:41.27 | Tem | in a regex |
| 00:41.38 | Tain | In Lua though |
| 00:41.48 | Tem | you don't need to escape % in lua |
| 00:42.02 | Tain | Something like ace:print("This is a %s") where you want the %s to print |
| 00:42.04 | *** join/##ace Norque (n=Mickachu@adsl-57-179.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 00:42.14 | Tain | Whereas lua is looking to substitute that with a string value |
| 00:42.15 | Rowne | If it was in a format and you wanted the format to ignore it. |
| 00:42.25 | Tem | ah ok |
| 00:42.27 | Tem | um... |
| 00:42.30 | kergoth | Tain: you only need to do % instead of % if the string is being passed to string.format() |
| 00:42.32 | Tem | try %% |
| 00:42.35 | kergoth | erm, % |
| 00:42.37 | kergoth | .. |
| 00:42.39 | kergoth | wtf |
| 00:42.43 | kergoth | damnit xchat |
| 00:42.46 | Tem | lol |
| 00:42.50 | Tain | It only does that with format? |
| 00:42.57 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 00:43.02 | Tem | grr two people have the same color |
| 00:43.07 | Tem | Rowne! |
| 00:43.16 | Tem | ~emulate gir |
| 00:43.19 | Tain | So ace:print("This is %s",text) doesn't substitue in the value of text? |
| 00:43.21 | Rowne | Tem, it's conditional colour, not per-name. |
| 00:43.24 | kergoth | !emulate gir |
| 00:43.26 | purl | i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes. |
| 00:43.28 | Tem | oh |
| 00:43.35 | Tem | when did it change to ! instead of ~? |
| 00:43.44 | kergoth | its only ! in this channel |
| 00:43.51 | kergoth | tim changed it because abot was in here using ~ at he time |
| 00:43.58 | Tem | ah ok |
| 00:43.59 | kergoth | s/he t/the t/ |
| 00:44.28 | Rowne | Tain: I think the easiest option is ... |
| 00:44.31 | Tem | any idea how id gets the color? |
| 00:44.33 | Rowne | Have the user enter (item) instead. |
| 00:44.40 | Rowne | Then we'll gsub that. |
| 00:44.56 | Tain | hrm. Yeah probably. |
| 00:45.08 | Rowne | Tem: It's by what the person is typing. |
| 00:45.11 | Rowne | If it's an emote. |
| 00:45.19 | Rowne | If it' quotes a name; hi Tem! |
| 00:45.22 | Rowne | And so on. |
| 00:45.30 | Rowne | There are a number of others I haven't identified precisely yet. ;p |
| 00:45.42 | Rowne | I should prolly RTFM. |
| 00:46.00 | Tain | That's only a last resort. |
| 00:46.12 | Tain | Oh vanilla swiss almond. Oh it's so good. |
| 00:47.53 | Tem | oh |
| 00:48.01 | Tem | I was hoping it would be hash based |
| 00:49.12 | Tem | because I have problems when Random and Ramble are here at the same time |
| 00:50.13 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-6.zip |
| 00:50.17 | Rowne | Try that, Tain. |
| 00:50.21 | Rowne | That one uses (item) instead, or should. |
| 00:50.57 | Tain | ok |
| 00:51.06 | Tain | Woah server is full, I'm in queue |
| 00:51.36 | Rowne | This'd be a really funny Addon to have running though. |
| 00:51.49 | Tain | Oh and did you intentionally say, "Victoly" ? |
| 00:51.54 | Rowne | Yes. |
| 00:52.11 | Rowne | *Fighting Ragnaros.* "I won the something, victoly! *Cheer!* *Dance!*", "Who CARES! We're DYING here!" |
| 00:53.04 | Tain | Ah, crazy ol Rags |
| 00:53.45 | Rowne | I can't wait to get it commented up so it actually looks like class fodder. |
| 00:54.44 | kergoth | .. |
| 00:54.54 | Tem | .. |
| 00:54.55 | Tem | test |
| 00:55.03 | kergoth | !test |
| 00:55.04 | purl | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 00:55.09 | kergoth | .. |
| 00:55.25 | Tain | Error upon winning an auction: line 124: bag argument#2 to 'format' (string expected, got funciton) |
| 00:55.44 | kergoth | bag argument? |
| 00:55.50 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:56.37 | Tain | There's got to be some difference... I know, ask a woman! |
| 00:56.41 | Tem | oh dear.. I need to do something about those emoticons... |
| 00:56.53 | Tem | that's _ugly_ |
| 00:57.51 | Tem | :) |
| 00:57.54 | Tem | all better |
| 00:58.11 | Rowne | I turned them all off, too. |
| 00:58.42 | Tem | Rowne: you have any idea what the difference is between teal and pink names? |
| 00:58.44 | Tain | It thinks item is a function? |
| 00:59.33 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-7.zip |
| 00:59.34 | Rowne | There. |
| 00:59.41 | Rowne | I threw in a couple debug prints. |
| 00:59.53 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:59.59 | kergoth | wonder if that job in finland with nokia is still open |
| 01:00.05 | kergoth | but, would probably end up hating that too |
| 01:00.08 | kergoth | eventually |
| 01:00.36 | Tain | There's always male prostitution. |
| 01:01.11 | kergoth | yeah, theres always that.. |
| 01:01.28 | Tain | A life of crime as a super villian. |
| 01:01.54 | kergoth | that works |
| 01:02.00 | Tain | Ok rowne, first off it prints twice. |
| 01:02.00 | kergoth | i'd have to follow the instructions in the evil overlord doc |
| 01:02.02 | Rowne | Wot, ship him off to Psy-crow's School of Super-villainy? |
| 01:02.07 | kergoth | all my plans will be checked by a 5 year old before implementation |
| 01:02.15 | Tain | When you win an auction, it prints "I win the.." twice |
| 01:02.16 | kergoth | no big red buttons for my superweapons |
| 01:02.25 | Rowne | But not the item, Tain? |
| 01:02.28 | Tain | Well |
| 01:02.44 | Tain | it prints item as (function: 1B6CD008) |
| 01:02.45 | kergoth | <rici> you could find this useful: |
| 01:02.45 | kergoth | <rici> function meta(t) local m = getmetatable(t); if not m then m = {}; setmetatable(t, m); return m end |
| 01:02.45 | kergoth | <rici> then you can say: meta(t).__add = function ... end |
| 01:02.48 | kergoth | thats a cute little function |
| 01:03.46 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-8.zip |
| 01:03.57 | Rowne | Actually, wait Tain. |
| 01:04.03 | Tain | Can it be the section above that? Line 114 is making item be the gfind function, instead of assigning the result? |
| 01:04.12 | Rowne | No, that's fine. |
| 01:04.14 | Rowne | Go with that one. |
| 01:04.32 | Rowne | No it's not though. |
| 01:04.41 | Rowne | That's the standard way of using gfind. |
| 01:05.00 | Rowne | local str = gfind(source, "Your string is here (.+).") |
| 01:05.14 | Rowne | Unless I've gone funny in the head, that's right. |
| 01:05.31 | Tain | I'm just ruling out any possibilities is all I'm saying. ;) |
| 01:05.45 | Rowne | Try the 1-8. |
| 01:05.52 | Rowne | I want to know what that function does! *Coughs.* |
| 01:06.36 | kergoth | hmm, theres that one position.. http://tinyurl.com/al852 |
| 01:06.51 | Tain | Ok let me show you what it did. |
| 01:08.59 | Tain | You Won an auction for Purple Lotus --Normal system message |
| 01:08.59 | Tain | I win the %s, victoly! |
| 01:08.59 | Tain | function: 2868C708 |
| 01:08.59 | Tain | Purple Lotus |
| 01:08.59 | Tain | I win the %s, victoly! |
| 01:09.00 | Tain | function: 2868C708 |
| 01:09.02 | Tain | [Bankarr] says: I win the Purple Lotus, victoly! |
| 01:09.04 | Tain | Then cheering and dancing. |
| 01:11.07 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-9.zip |
| 01:11.11 | Rowne | Just to cover a possibility. |
| 01:13.52 | Tain | When winning an auction: line 126: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got function) |
| 01:13.56 | Tain | Nothing else prints out |
| 01:14.08 | Rowne | Argh. |
| 01:14.47 | kergoth | hmm... http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/0/4/04303ef03855f1b0f7eaea2d8fd595b7@activejobs0 |
| 01:15.09 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-10.zip |
| 01:15.38 | kergoth | not a fan of admin positions, but $100-180k? |
| 01:15.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:18.56 | Tain | Some thing rowne. I threw a ace:print(item) in the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM() also |
| 01:19.29 | Rowne | s/some/same/ ? |
| 01:19.29 | Tain | When winning a single auction it prints out three times, three different function definitions |
| 01:19.35 | Tain | Yeah same thing. |
| 01:19.44 | Rowne | The hell? |
| 01:20.03 | Rowne | How can 'local item = gfind(arg1, const.Misc_AuctionWon)' return a function? |
| 01:21.18 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-11.zip |
| 01:21.39 | Cair | btw |
| 01:22.12 | Cair | teal is blue-green ... if you can't see the difference between blue-green and pink, then you need to get checked for colour-blindness |
| 01:23.14 | Rowne | Cair: Gaim claims that teal is pink. *Amused.* |
| 01:23.44 | Rowne | I strongly suspect that one of the devs was smoking something at the time. |
| 01:24.25 | Cair | http://www.nopinationals.com/2002/swimsuit/semis/Blond%20Tiffany%20w%20Teal%2002%20copy.jpg |
| 01:24.25 | Cair | http://www.nopinationals.com/2002/swimsuit/semis/Blond%20w%20Pink%2001%20copy.jpg |
| 01:24.31 | Cair | teal vs pink, there ya go |
| 01:28.50 | Rowne | Tain, how'd 11 go? |
| 01:28.52 | Rowne | Did that fix it? |
| 01:31.01 | *** join/##ace ToastTheif (i=HydraIRC@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:31.16 | Tain | Nope Rowne. I'm just trying something myself now, one sec. |
| 01:31.39 | Tain | But first I have to look at the uh.. colors. |
| 01:32.38 | Cair | heh, thought you guys might like those visual comparisions |
| 01:33.35 | Tain | Nothing works Rowne! |
| 01:34.26 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 01:34.40 | Rowne | I wish I knew why it was returning a function. |
| 01:34.41 | Rowne | H. |
| 01:34.43 | Rowne | Er, hm. |
| 01:35.42 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-12.zip |
| 01:37.27 | ToastTheif | ya know |
| 01:37.35 | ToastTheif | today was a pretty damn good monday |
| 01:38.32 | ToastTheif | I mean, mondays aren't even that good usuallyl |
| 01:42.08 | ToastTheif | I had chicken |
| 01:42.13 | ToastTheif | and lots of fun |
| 01:43.50 | ToastTheif | girls and basketball, what more could you ask for *nods* |
| 01:43.52 | Tain | Rowne, that version does nothing. But no error. |
| 01:46.23 | kergoth | gah! |
| 01:46.24 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-13.zip |
| 01:46.28 | kergoth | i wasnt paying attention and burned my pizza |
| 01:46.48 | Tain | But can you explain to me about the gfind line? |
| 01:46.50 | Tain | local item = string.gfind(arg1, const.Misc_AuctionWon) |
| 01:47.07 | Tain | This is searcing through arg1 to match the pattern in const.Misc_AuctionWon, right? |
| 01:47.38 | Tain | Assuming that when it's true arg1 will be the auction won message set as Misc_AuctionWon |
| 01:47.54 | Rowne | Yup |
| 01:48.01 | Rowne | s/p/p./ |
| 01:48.38 | Tain | Ok, but (when it does work) won't item = the full message that it matches? |
| 01:49.01 | Rowne | Nope. |
| 01:49.08 | Rowne | Because it'll only equal what gfind returns. |
| 01:49.20 | Rowne | See, the purpose of gfind is to find a pattern match in a string and only return the match. |
| 01:49.28 | Rowne | So let's say you wanted to find World in Hello World. |
| 01:49.42 | Tain | Right, but const.Misc_AuctionWon == "You won an auction for (.+)" |
| 01:49.48 | Rowne | local str = gfind("Hello World", "Hello (.+)") - that'd return "World" |
| 01:49.56 | Rowne | Exactly. |
| 01:50.03 | Rowne | There's no but to it, that's right. |
| 01:50.34 | Rowne | I tested my theory in the Lua parser too, it agrees. |
| 01:50.49 | Rowne | This is something funky that's happening with Warcraft's implementation of string.gfind(). |
| 01:51.15 | kergoth | is this when we pretend to be surprised? |
| 01:51.26 | Tain | Ok it's the .+ pattern I didn't understand. |
| 01:51.37 | Rowne | It basically means, 'find remaining text'. |
| 01:51.43 | Rowne | Between the two points. |
| 01:51.57 | Rowne | So "This is some text.", "This is (.+)", returns "some text". |
| 01:52.13 | Rowne | Well, actually, that'd return "some text." |
| 01:52.13 | kergoth | . is any character. + is one or ore of what it follows. |
| 01:52.22 | kergoth | s/ore/more/ |
| 01:52.25 | Tain | Ok. |
| 01:52.50 | Rowne | ker: That's not how it works in Warcraft. |
| 01:52.52 | Rowne | Not quite. |
| 01:52.58 | Rowne | I've seen people use it to grab spells. |
| 01:53.08 | Rowne | Like; "(.+) was cast on ..." |
| 01:53.26 | Rowne | So it seems to classify the entire word, unless I'm misunderstanding you. |
| 01:54.07 | Rowne | In that case, (.+) could return "Power Word: Shield" |
| 01:54.58 | Rowne | So am I misunderstanding you or does gfind/Warcraft do it differently? |
| 01:55.49 | Tain | Version 13 was the same error, Rowne |
| 01:55.53 | Rowne | Servitude does it that way though, that's how I know it works. That's where I got the example from actually because I wasn't 100 per cent sure of it. |
| 01:56.38 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-14.zip |
| 01:59.12 | Rowne | for caster, spellname in string.gfind(arg1, ServitudeLocalization.CastString) - CastString = "(.+) begins to cast (.+)." |
| 01:59.19 | Rowne | That's what I'm trying to accomplish with the auction text. |
| 01:59.23 | Rowne | I know that works in Servitude. |
| 01:59.56 | Rowne | So item = gfind(arg1, auctionTextWithMatch) should return the item ... |
| 02:00.12 | Rowne | Unless I'm just not right in the head anymore, I must be right. |
| 02:03.06 | kergoth | blah = "You won an auction for (.+)" |
| 02:03.06 | kergoth | str = "You won an auction for Black Lotus!" |
| 02:03.06 | kergoth | local ind = string.gfind(str, blah) |
| 02:03.06 | kergoth | print(ind) |
| 02:03.10 | kergoth | function: 0032A200 |
| 02:03.16 | kergoth | from my lua interpreter |
| 02:03.23 | kergoth | outside of wow |
| 02:03.39 | Tain | That's what wow does. |
| 02:03.47 | Tain | That version partially worked, Rowne. |
| 02:03.54 | Rowne | ... okay, that makes no sense, at all. |
| 02:04.13 | Tain | It did the say, "I win the Light Armor Kit, victoly!" |
| 02:04.19 | kergoth | which is what its supposed to do |
| 02:04.25 | Tain | And did the cheer and dance |
| 02:04.26 | kergoth | Rowne: i hate to say it, but rtfm. |
| 02:04.29 | kergoth | gfind returns an iterator. |
| 02:04.37 | Tain | But still came up with the same error. |
| 02:04.39 | kergoth | for k in string.gfind(blah, blah) do .. |
| 02:04.48 | kergoth | is the intended use case |
| 02:04.59 | Rowne | I'll try that. |
| 02:05.08 | Rowne | I'd -swear- that worked at some point in the past though. |
| 02:06.37 | Rowne | Oh, I see it! |
| 02:06.45 | Rowne | This is how I used to use it, apparently; |
| 02:06.47 | kergoth | you're probably thinking of string.find |
| 02:06.47 | Rowne | local str = string.gfind("Hello World", "Hello (.+)")() |
| 02:06.54 | kergoth | ah, yep, thatd return the first match |
| 02:06.58 | kergoth | you're calling the iterator once |
| 02:07.08 | Rowne | I just dug out my old Addon where I did it. |
| 02:07.32 | Rowne | See, I don't want to call it for every instance, that'd be inefficient and cause mismatched fires to go to the function. |
| 02:08.08 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-15.zip |
| 02:08.31 | Rowne | If they get two auctions one after the other, it's going to screw with the double-event fire code I'm going to put in there soon. |
| 02:08.43 | Rowne | Because I think CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM is firing twice where it's only supposed to fire once. |
| 02:08.45 | Rowne | And I need to deal with that. |
| 02:08.54 | kergoth | blah = "You won an auction for (.+)!" |
| 02:08.54 | Rowne | So I only want the gfind iterator to fire once. |
| 02:08.55 | kergoth | str = "You won an auction for Black Lotus!" |
| 02:08.55 | kergoth | local _,_,ind = string.find(str, blah) |
| 02:08.55 | kergoth | print(ind) |
| 02:08.56 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.56 | kergoth | Black Lotus |
| 02:10.03 | Rowne | That sounds perfect, though. |
| 02:10.14 | kergoth | first two arguments are numeric indexes about the match |
| 02:10.17 | kergoth | extra args after that are the captures |
| 02:10.19 | kergoth | for string.find |
| 02:10.20 | Rowne | Ahh. |
| 02:11.01 | Rowne | Thanks ker. |
| 02:11.08 | kergoth | alternatively, local ind = {string.find(str, blah)}[3] |
| 02:11.13 | kergoth | np |
| 02:13.23 | Rowne | ker, that one spits out an error in my parser. |
| 02:13.34 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:13.38 | Rowne | unexpected symbol near `['. |
| 02:13.44 | kergoth | oh |
| 02:13.50 | kergoth | local ind = ({string.find(str, blah)})[3] |
| 02:14.03 | kergoth | you cant directly index an anonymous table without wrapping it in parens |
| 02:14.05 | kergoth | for some reason |
| 02:14.28 | Rowne | Ergh, I'm torn. |
| 02:14.35 | Rowne | Your solution is absolutely -beautiful- but ... |
| 02:14.43 | Rowne | It might confuse the hell out of the entry level people I want to show this to. |
| 02:14.51 | kergoth | oh, right |
| 02:15.01 | kergoth | maybe local _,_,ind = string.find() is better |
| 02:15.05 | Rowne | So I think I'll go with, _, _, item ... yeah. |
| 02:15.12 | Rowne | I don't like that solution but it's easier to explain. |
| 02:15.13 | kergoth | its certainly better than gfind, since you dont have to explain iterators ;) |
| 02:15.18 | Rowne | True. |
| 02:15.38 | kergoth | hehe, i really like that anonymous table method. so clean |
| 02:15.49 | Rowne | It's beautiful. |
| 02:15.57 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-16.zip |
| 02:16.00 | Rowne | Tain - give that one a shot. |
| 02:16.20 | Rowne | See if you get all jiggy with it after winning an auction and yell the stuff correctly and whatever else it does. |
| 02:16.25 | Tain | ok |
| 02:17.25 | Rowne | But I can't overcomplicate it. |
| 02:17.33 | Rowne | So if this works, I'll leave it as is and comment it up. |
| 02:17.49 | Tain | Already got an error and haven't gotten to the ah yet |
| 02:17.58 | Rowne | My fault, no doubt. |
| 02:18.10 | Tain | Same error 124: bad argument #2. |
| 02:18.17 | Tain | Let me make sure I installed the last version |
| 02:22.26 | kergoth | hahah, rici can be such a smartass |
| 02:22.32 | kergoth | <rici> i mean, are you thinking of somehow introducing the object into the script by osmosis? |
| 02:22.33 | kergoth | <rici> "oh, look Frances, the stork brought us a new object" |
| 02:22.33 | kergoth | <rici> :) |
| 02:22.36 | Tain | I think it is firing twice, it's the second time that it's having a problem. |
| 02:22.48 | Rowne | Tain: I saw that coming. |
| 02:22.52 | Rowne | I'll put in code to deal with that. |
| 02:22.57 | Rowne | I just wanted to make sure it was working. |
| 02:23.02 | Rowne | And verify which of the two fires was the problem. |
| 02:23.07 | Rowne | Now I know it's the second, I can compensate. |
| 02:23.18 | kergoth | ~lart blizzard |
| 02:23.20 | Tain | Yeah it's the second. |
| 02:23.22 | kergoth | !lart blizzard |
| 02:23.25 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:23.28 | kergoth | that was one lame lart |
| 02:23.38 | kergoth | !lart blizzard |
| 02:23.47 | Tain | !insult blizzard's mom |
| 02:23.50 | Rowne | !insult blizzard |
| 02:25.08 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-17.zip |
| 02:25.39 | Tem | back |
| 02:26.00 | Tem | !insult blizzard |
| 02:26.48 | Cair | !insult Ace |
| 02:26.56 | Cair | :p |
| 02:27.14 | Tain | What's wrong with waffle-house grits? |
| 02:27.31 | Tem | !insult Cair |
| 02:27.39 | Tem | !herring Cair |
| 02:27.40 | purl | ACTION whacks Cair on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 02:27.40 | Rowne | !insult Planet Bob |
| 02:28.10 | Rowne | !lart humanity |
| 02:28.22 | Tain | uh huh |
| 02:28.22 | Tem | zomg |
| 02:28.24 | Tem | a type |
| 02:28.28 | Tem | typo |
| 02:28.42 | Rowne | ... maybe one more. |
| 02:28.44 | Rowne | !lart humanity |
| 02:28.51 | Tem | !literal lart |
| 02:28.52 | purl | "lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool" |
| 02:29.00 | Rowne | I feel like a supervillain! |
| 02:29.04 | Tain | !lart the English language |
| 02:29.04 | kergoth | lart isnt a factoid, its a command |
| 02:29.12 | Rowne | ker, you need to put some supervillainish ones in tehre. |
| 02:29.23 | Tem | well.. the command has a typo |
| 02:29.26 | Tem | and I want to fix it |
| 02:29.37 | Tem | !lart english majors |
| 02:30.10 | Rowne | !insult scott kurtz |
| 02:30.56 | kergoth | !emulate gir |
| 02:30.58 | purl | aww, my bees... |
| 02:31.09 | Rowne | !emulate |
| 02:31.13 | Rowne | Aww, no instructions? |
| 02:31.19 | kergoth | it isnt a command |
| 02:31.21 | kergoth | they're seperate factoids |
| 02:31.24 | Tain | !emulate Rowne |
| 02:31.26 | kergoth | !literal emulate bees |
| 02:31.27 | Rowne | Ohh. |
| 02:31.31 | kergoth | erm |
| 02:31.33 | kergoth | !literal emulate gir |
| 02:31.35 | purl | "emulate gir" is "<reply>where's my moose?||<reply>must obey the taco man!||<reply>dooom doooom doom||<reply>i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes.||<reply>you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way.||<reply>to make room for the TUNA!||<reply>yay!||<reply>do a little dance!||<reply>my walnuts!||<reply>aww, my bees..." |
| 02:32.24 | Tem | how does one set a literal |
| 02:32.38 | kergoth | !emulate Tem is <reply> blah |
| 02:32.39 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 02:32.41 | kergoth | !Tem |
| 02:32.48 | kergoth | !emulate Tem |
| 02:32.49 | purl | blah |
| 02:33.09 | kergoth | literal is a command that bypasses handling of the <reply> etc markup |
| 02:33.11 | kergoth | and shows you exactly whats set |
| 02:33.20 | Rowne | !emulate Rowne is <reply>Semi-colons are line-protectors for wussy people unable to realize their full potential. |
| 02:33.22 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:34.15 | Tem | !emulate Rowne is <reply> Abuuuh? || <reply> I'm simply aboggle! |
| 02:34.16 | purl | ...but emulate rowne is already something else... |
| 02:34.23 | Rowne | Hey! |
| 02:34.38 | Tem | purl: I don't care. set it anyway |
| 02:34.40 | purl | You don't care. set it anyway? |
| 02:34.47 | kergoth | lol |
| 02:34.50 | Tem | purl: damn you! |
| 02:34.51 | purl | What's your beef?! |
| 02:34.56 | kergoth | haha |
| 02:34.57 | Rowne | !emulate Deadpool is <reply>Pwangg?? Trees don't go pwangg! Llammas don't go pwangg. Nothing found in nature goes PWANGG!! |
| 02:34.59 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:35.09 | kergoth | purl: no, Rowne is blah |
| 02:35.10 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 02:35.11 | kergoth | er |
| 02:35.14 | kergoth | purl: no, emulate rowne is blah |
| 02:35.15 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 02:35.17 | kergoth | !forget rowne |
| 02:35.17 | purl | i forgot rowne, kergoth |
| 02:35.21 | Rowne | ... |
| 02:35.24 | kergoth | Tem: the no, prefix lets you override |
| 02:35.32 | kergoth | just an example |
| 02:36.01 | kergoth | !kergoth |
| 02:36.02 | purl | methinks kergoth is Chris Larson, an embedded linux guy currently at Astrocom Corporation (http://www.astrocorp.com/). Email at kergoth@handhelds.org or clarson@astrocorp.com. Core dev / architect on the BitBake, OZ, and OpenEmbedded projects. Maintainer of the tslib project. |
| 02:36.03 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate Tem is <reply>ZOMG, way #1,732 to break Warcraft! Sloouuken! |
| 02:36.04 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:36.33 | Tem | purl: no, emulate rowne is <reply>Semi-colons are line-protectors for wussy people unable to realize their full potential. || <reply> Abuuuh? || <reply> I'm simply aboggle! |
| 02:36.35 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 02:36.44 | Tem | !emulate tem |
| 02:36.45 | purl | ZOMG, way #1,732 to break Warcraft! Sloouuken! |
| 02:37.32 | Rowne | !emulate Warcraft is Error #132, ABORT ABORT DIVE DIVE DIVE!! |
| 02:37.34 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:37.59 | Tem | kergoth: is there a way to add to emulates without overriding them completely? |
| 02:38.07 | Tem | !emulate rowne |
| 02:38.08 | purl | Abuuuh? |
| 02:38.11 | kergoth | !emulate blizzard is <reply> What's OO? |
| 02:38.14 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 02:39.03 | Tem | !emulate Gryphon is <reply> Anyone who doesn't agree with me is retarded. |
| 02:39.04 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 02:39.09 | Rowne | !emulate Murloc is *Gurglewarblewibbleblahwop.* |
| 02:39.11 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:39.14 | kergoth | !emulate rowne is also || <reply> test |
| 02:39.15 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 02:39.21 | kergoth | !literal emulate rowne |
| 02:39.22 | purl | "emulate rowne" is "<reply>Semi-colons are line-protectors for wussy people unable to realize their full potential. || <reply> Abuuuh? || <reply> I'm simply aboggle!, or || <reply> test" |
| 02:39.27 | kergoth | aw |
| 02:39.30 | Tem | !emulate rowne |
| 02:39.31 | purl | test |
| 02:39.31 | kergoth | forgot about the ', or' prefix |
| 02:39.40 | Tem | !emulate rowne |
| 02:39.41 | purl | I'm simply aboggle!, or |
| 02:39.42 | kergoth | better not use is also for that then |
| 02:39.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:40.03 | Rowne | purl: Explode! |
| 02:40.05 | purl | BOOOM |
| 02:40.08 | Rowne | Hahahahaha. |
| 02:40.12 | Tem | lol |
| 02:40.13 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:40.21 | kergoth | the bot's been around for quite a while |
| 02:40.25 | kergoth | !factinfo explode |
| 02:40.25 | purl | explode -- created by mETz <~Stefan@catv-1823.catv.wtnet.de> at Sat Jun 8 17:48:01 2002 (1220 days); it has been requested 19 times, last by Rowne, 21s ago. |
| 02:40.26 | Rowne | Either kergoth remembers Pob or he remembers me talking about pob. ;p |
| 02:40.45 | Rowne | Ohh. |
| 02:40.52 | Rowne | mETz remembers explode, then! |
| 02:40.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:40.59 | kergoth | !factstats |
| 02:41.05 | Rowne | !walk is <reply>But where's my lead?! |
| 02:41.07 | purl | ...but walk is already something else... |
| 02:41.14 | Rowne | Aww, I can't define first-level ones. |
| 02:41.39 | Tem | !literal emulate Rowne |
| 02:41.41 | purl | "emulate rowne" is "<reply>Semi-colons are line-protectors for wussy people unable to realize their full potential. || <reply> Abuuuh? || <reply> I'm simply aboggle!, or || <reply> test" |
| 02:41.50 | kergoth | !factstats total |
| 02:42.07 | kergoth | hmm, bot seems lagged |
| 02:42.08 | Tem | purl: no, emulate rowne is reply>Semi-colons are line-protectors for wussy people unable to realize their full potential. || <reply> Abuuuh? || <reply> I'm simply aboggle! |
| 02:42.10 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 02:42.17 | kergoth | or it just doesnt like me |
| 02:42.23 | kergoth | ah, messaged |
| 02:42.24 | kergoth | <purl> General factoid statistics (7): total requests - 143499 ;; total unique requesters - 4760 ;; total non-requested - -34181 ;; total prepared for deletion - 0 ;; average requested per factoid - 5.7 ;; total modified - 5911 ;; total unique authors - 3658. |
| 02:42.27 | Rowne | purl: no, !walk is <Reply>But where's my lead?! |
| 02:42.29 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:42.35 | kergoth | look at those stats. |
| 02:42.43 | Rowne | Egads. |
| 02:42.58 | Rowne | Tain, does the new version work? |
| 02:43.00 | Rowne | !walk |
| 02:43.01 | purl | If i could walk that way, i wouldn't need aftershave! |
| 02:43.03 | Tem | !quote random |
| 02:43.09 | Tain | What? There's a new version? |
| 02:43.13 | kergoth | !quote scox |
| 02:43.21 | Tem | !quote random |
| 02:43.25 | Rowne | Tain yup. |
| 02:43.33 | kergoth | tem, quote in this bot is for financial quotes :P |
| 02:43.33 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/Touchdown1-17.zip |
| 02:43.38 | Tem | bleh |
| 02:43.46 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 02:43.47 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 02:43.54 | Tem | purl: go walk into traffic |
| 02:43.56 | Tain | !quote MSFT |
| 02:44.13 | kergoth | !emulate brian |
| 02:44.15 | purl | Well, Peter, if you're going to pull a party out of your ass, you might want to go ahead and stand up. |
| 02:44.19 | kergoth | haha |
| 02:44.21 | kergoth | i remember that one |
| 02:44.26 | Tain | !emulate stewie |
| 02:44.27 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 02:44.31 | Rowne | !emulate kitty is <Reply>ddddddddddddd... get the hell off my keyboard! |
| 02:44.33 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:44.49 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 02:44.50 | purl | Damn you, broccoli. |
| 02:44.55 | Tem | zomg! |
| 02:45.01 | Rowne | !emulate stewie |
| 02:45.03 | purl | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 02:45.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:45.09 | Tem | !literal emulate stewie |
| 02:45.11 | purl | "emulate stewie" is "<reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, broccoli. || <reply> I come bearing ... |
| 02:45.23 | kergoth | cant even show it all |
| 02:45.27 | kergoth | !factinfo emulate stewie |
| 02:45.27 | purl | emulate stewie -- last modified at Sat Sep 18 07:44:34 2004 by kergoth!~kergoth@zelda.tuxnami.org; it has been requested 90 times, last by Rowne, 24s ago. |
| 02:45.51 | Tain | errorrrrrr |
| 02:46.10 | kergoth | !emulate fry |
| 02:46.11 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 02:46.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:46.16 | Rowne | Bah. |
| 02:46.25 | Rowne | The Pkunk are too long-winded to make emulates of. |
| 02:46.29 | Rowne | http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/quotes/pkunk.txt |
| 02:46.40 | Tain | ERROR! |
| 02:46.42 | kergoth | oh, lets see if anyone knows these.. |
| 02:46.43 | Rowne | ker would kill me for spam if I tried, I think. ; |
| 02:46.44 | kergoth | !emulate max |
| 02:46.46 | purl | Hey, I've got an idea...and it doesn't involve high explosives! |
| 02:46.55 | Rowne | That's ... familiar. |
| 02:46.57 | kergoth | !emulate max |
| 02:46.58 | purl | This place reeks of adventure and excitement, Sam! |
| 02:47.00 | Rowne | Sam and Max! |
| 02:47.03 | kergoth | :D |
| 02:47.03 | Rowne | Hahaha. |
| 02:47.07 | Rowne | I got it from the explosive. |
| 02:47.08 | kergoth | !emulate sam |
| 02:47.10 | purl | Hey! Look at that wierd animal! Maybe if we laugh at it, it will go away... |
| 02:47.10 | Rowne | Not the latter one. |
| 02:47.13 | Rowne | Ist just took a moment. |
| 02:47.22 | Rowne | s/Ist/It/ |
| 02:47.29 | Rowne | !emulate max |
| 02:47.30 | purl | I say we go down to the scummy side of town and give some hoods some papercuts! |
| 02:47.47 | Tem | purl: no, emulate stewie is <reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! || <reply> I come bearing ... || <reply> Do you want a soooda? |
| 02:47.50 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 02:47.59 | kergoth | dangit tem |
| 02:48.04 | kergoth | i come bearing wasnt the whole thing :P |
| 02:48.09 | kergoth | it just couldnt sohw it to you |
| 02:48.11 | kergoth | too long for irc |
| 02:48.17 | Tem | well crap |
| 02:48.27 | kergoth | that was the "I come bearing a gift! I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster." one |
| 02:48.28 | Rowne | !literal emulate max |
| 02:48.30 | purl | "emulate max" is "<reply> Holy Cripes on Toast!!! || <reply> Its been days since my last brush with death, and I'm already feeling light headed. || <reply> I say we go down to the scummy side of town and give some hoods some papercuts! || <reply> This place reeks of adventure and excitement, Sam! || <reply> Hey, I've got an idea...and it doesn't involve high ... |
| 02:48.41 | Tem | well perhaps that's why I didn't recognize it |
| 02:48.56 | kergoth | !emulate sam |
| 02:48.57 | purl | Now what kind of person would flame-bomb kittens? |
| 02:49.11 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate max is <reply> Holy Cripes on Toast!!! || <reply> Its been days since my last brush with death, and I'm already feeling light headed. || <reply> I say we go down to the scummy side of town and give some hoods some papercuts! || <reply> This place reeks of adventure and excitement, Sam! || <reply> Hey, I've got an idea...and it doesn't involve high ... || <reply> It shines like the face of Mr. Popodopolis! |
| 02:49.12 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:49.17 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:49.20 | kergoth | rowne just did the same thing |
| 02:49.25 | kergoth | you cut off the high explosives quote |
| 02:49.27 | Rowne | Eh? I did? I wasn' reading. |
| 02:49.31 | Rowne | Oh, sorry. |
| 02:49.32 | kergoth | the ... was indicating it couldnt show you the whole literal |
| 02:49.41 | Rowne | Oh ... |
| 02:49.42 | kergoth | theres a max line length on irc.. |
| 02:50.00 | Tem | purl: no, emulate stewie is <reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! || <reply> I come bearing a gift! I'll give you a hint. It's in my |
| 02:50.01 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 02:50.09 | kergoth | speaking of the max line length |
| 02:50.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:50.41 | kergoth | theres a max line length to factoids too :( |
| 02:50.43 | Rowne | You need to take the or out ker. |
| 02:50.46 | kergoth | otherwise i wouldve added more to those |
| 02:50.47 | Rowne | So we can add to it with gay abandon! |
| 02:51.04 | Rowne | That's if you're allowed to edit the bot. |
| 02:51.10 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 02:51.11 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 02:51.12 | kergoth | !emulate wacko |
| 02:51.13 | purl | ACTION jbot burps "The Blue Danube"! |
| 02:51.18 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:51.18 | Rowne | Yay!! |
| 02:51.23 | kergoth | !literal emulate wacko |
| 02:51.24 | purl | "emulate wacko" is "<action> jbot burps "The Blue Danube"!" |
| 02:51.28 | kergoth | bah |
| 02:51.30 | Rowne | !emulate freakazoid |
| 02:51.36 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 02:51.37 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 02:51.40 | Rowne | Whaaat? No freakazoid?! |
| 02:51.42 | kergoth | purl: no, emulate wacko is <action> burps "The Blue Danube"! |
| 02:51.43 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 02:51.51 | kergoth | !emulate dot |
| 02:51.52 | purl | Nice decorating! Let me guess--Satan? |
| 02:51.53 | kergoth | !emulate dott |
| 02:51.56 | kergoth | ah there we go |
| 02:52.00 | kergoth | !emulate yacko |
| 02:52.02 | purl | ACTION does a strangely compelling, yet silly Groucho Marx impression! |
| 02:52.05 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 02:52.06 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 02:52.32 | kergoth | a lot of quotes dont lend themselves to the emulate format. has to be a oneliner from one person |
| 02:53.07 | kergoth | oh, check this out |
| 02:53.11 | kergoth | lets see.. |
| 02:53.19 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..." |
| 02:53.20 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 02:53.20 | kergoth | !listkeys emulate |
| 02:53.30 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush |
| 02:53.32 | purl | I'm a mighty pirate. |
| 02:53.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:53.41 | kergoth | !emulate iis |
| 02:53.43 | purl | I'd like to see that web page too! |
| 02:53.54 | kergoth | !emulate dib |
| 02:53.56 | purl | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |
| 02:53.56 | Tem | !emulate rowne |
| 02:53.57 | purl | Abuuuh? |
| 02:53.59 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 02:54.04 | kergoth | i remember that episode |
| 02:54.20 | Tem | incoming spam |
| 02:54.22 | Tem | purl: no, emulate stewie is <reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! || <reply> I come bearing a gift! I'll give you a hint. It's in my |
| 02:54.23 | purl | Tem: i already had it that way |
| 02:54.32 | kergoth | you're hitting the max line limit |
| 02:54.34 | kergoth | length |
| 02:54.42 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:54.43 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange. |
| 02:54.45 | purl | ...but emulate guybrush is already something else... |
| 02:54.54 | Rowne | purl: no, Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange. |
| 02:54.56 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:55.09 | Rowne | Er, whoops. |
| 02:55.15 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange. |
| 02:55.17 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:55.20 | Rowne | perl: forget Guybrush |
| 02:55.36 | kergoth | you forgot emulate |
| 02:55.37 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush |
| 02:55.38 | purl | ACTION breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..." |
| 02:55.44 | kergoth | and you spelled the bot's name wrong |
| 02:55.50 | Rowne | Oh. |
| 02:55.55 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 02:55.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:55.59 | kergoth | !forget Guybrush |
| 02:55.59 | purl | i forgot guybrush, kergoth |
| 02:56.02 | Tem | why does it take so long to connect to this server? |
| 02:56.05 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush |
| 02:56.07 | purl | How appropriate, you fight like a cow. |
| 02:56.12 | Tem | purl: well if you would have answered me last time I wouldn't have had to tell you twice |
| 02:56.16 | kergoth | Tem: freenode checks to make sure your machine isnt running an open relay |
| 02:56.20 | kergoth | Tem: security reasons |
| 02:56.40 | kergoth | iirc, anyway |
| 02:56.40 | Tem | and that takes a bit? |
| 02:56.48 | kergoth | check freenode.net |
| 02:56.50 | kergoth | theres an FAQ :P |
| 02:56.54 | Tem | ah.. will do |
| 02:57.03 | Rowne | !emulate kergoth |
| 02:57.05 | purl | ACTION hacks on bitbake, openembedded, openzaurus, and other projects and wields a mean wootz damascus steel cluebat |
| 02:57.06 | Tem | aww purl isn't going to answer me |
| 02:57.20 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 02:57.21 | purl | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 02:57.25 | Rowne | I wish I could remember more Full Throttle quotes ... |
| 02:57.46 | Tem | yay! my favorite family guy quote |
| 02:57.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:58.01 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 02:58.02 | purl | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 02:58.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:58.13 | Rowne | !literal emulate guybrush |
| 02:58.14 | purl | "emulate guybrush" is "<reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange." |
| 02:58.17 | Tem | I just had to fix it.. it just had "damn you, broccoli" |
| 02:58.42 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 02:58.43 | purl | Now, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man. |
| 02:59.29 | kergoth | !emulate fry |
| 02:59.30 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 02:59.35 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange."||<reply>It's a great day for spitting!||<reply> Leg or no leg, I trust you about as |
| 02:59.36 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 02:59.46 | kergoth | !emulate fry |
| 02:59.48 | purl | Words. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears. |
| 03:00.31 | kergoth | i trust you about as? |
| 03:00.36 | kergoth | you already hit the limit, it looks like |
| 03:00.47 | kergoth | look at the line you entered |
| 03:01.02 | Rowne | Looks fine to me. |
| 03:01.08 | Tem | kergoth: can you edit the bot? |
| 03:01.11 | kergoth | '||<reply> Leg or no leg, I trust you about as ' |
| 03:01.12 | Rowne | I see 'snot to me.' at the end. |
| 03:01.16 | kergoth | thats the end of the factoid |
| 03:01.23 | Rowne | !literal emulate guybrush |
| 03:01.25 | purl | "emulate guybrush" is "<reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>We'd surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an ... |
| 03:01.26 | kergoth | your irc client is showing you the full thing, even though it isnt making it to the server that way |
| 03:01.32 | Rowne | Damn! |
| 03:01.49 | kergoth | Tem: no, but its tim's bot, and i can pester tim. if we write a patch to blootbot, we can send it to him |
| 03:01.53 | kergoth | !purl |
| 03:01.56 | purl | hmm... purl is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and jbot |
| 03:01.56 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 03:01.57 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 03:01.59 | kergoth | !ibot |
| 03:02.01 | purl | ibot is probably a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 03:02.07 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate Guybrush is <reply>I'm selling these fine leather jackets!||<reply>Look behind you, it's a three headed monkey!||<reply>I'm a mighty pirate.||<reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.||<action>breathes in helium, "Nightfevernightfevernightfevernightfever ..."||<reply>P...or...celain...||<reply>It's a great day for spitting!||<reply> Leg or no leg, I trust you about as far as I can throw Manhattan. |
| 03:02.08 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:02.08 | kergoth | !blootbot |
| 03:02.09 | purl | [blootbot] an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 03:02.11 | Rowne | Did that one make it, ker? |
| 03:02.18 | kergoth | Rowne: yeah, looks like it |
| 03:02.25 | Rowne | Yay! Good enough for me. |
| 03:02.33 | Rowne | !emulate Guybrush |
| 03:02.34 | purl | It's a great day for spitting! |
| 03:02.50 | kergoth | that bot i was running, abot, is a much much nicer codebase |
| 03:03.01 | kergoth | but it still isnt qutie as good as this one when it comes to factoids |
| 03:03.08 | kergoth | other stuff, definately superior |
| 03:03.08 | Tem | kergoth: ask him to add a command to add directly to the end of a literal |
| 03:03.09 | Rowne | !echo off is Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:03.10 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:03.20 | Rowne | Blast, I can't do it that way. |
| 03:03.29 | Rowne | I should've put a hyphon. |
| 03:03.30 | kergoth | you forgot <reply> |
| 03:03.32 | kergoth | !echo off |
| 03:03.34 | purl | methinks echo off is Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:03.45 | Rowne | Ahh. |
| 03:04.03 | kergoth | !forget echo off |
| 03:04.03 | purl | kergoth: i forgot echo off |
| 03:04.12 | Rowne | !echo off is <Reply>Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:04.14 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:04.18 | kergoth | !echoo ff |
| 03:04.20 | kergoth | bah |
| 03:04.20 | Rowne | !echo off |
| 03:04.22 | purl | Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:04.37 | Rowne | For Tem, that one. *Amused.* |
| 03:04.45 | Tem | purl: no, echo off is Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!" |
| 03:04.46 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 03:04.46 | Rowne | Now if ever Tem needs silence, Tem can just !echo off. |
| 03:04.58 | Tem | well... I have a better client no |
| 03:04.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:05.01 | Tem | +w |
| 03:05.03 | kergoth | you forgot <reply> too |
| 03:05.13 | Tem | so I shouldn't need it |
| 03:05.21 | Tem | purl: no, echo off is <reply>Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!" |
| 03:05.22 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 03:05.22 | Rowne | purl: no, echo off is <Reply>Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:05.25 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:05.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:05.30 | Rowne | Hahaha. |
| 03:05.33 | Rowne | !echo off |
| 03:05.35 | purl | Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!". |
| 03:05.40 | Tem | curse your rowne |
| 03:05.43 | Tem | purl: no, echo off is <reply>Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!" |
| 03:05.44 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 03:05.59 | kergoth | !botsnack |
| 03:05.59 | purl | kergoth: :) |
| 03:06.06 | kergoth | !good bot |
| 03:06.06 | purl | kergoth: :) |
| 03:06.25 | Cair | purl: bored is <reply>Lalala, soooooo bored! |
| 03:06.26 | purl | ...but bored is already something else... |
| 03:06.30 | kergoth | !bored |
| 03:06.32 | purl | hell yeah, i'm a bot, lol |
| 03:06.35 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:06.36 | Rowne | !emulate zork is You're standing in front of the most incredibly boring and nondescript white house you've ever seen. What now?> |
| 03:06.37 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:06.37 | kergoth | wtf |
| 03:06.40 | kergoth | !forget bored |
| 03:06.40 | purl | i forgot bored, kergoth |
| 03:06.45 | kergoth | Cair: there ya go |
| 03:06.49 | Rowne | !emulate zork |
| 03:06.50 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, emulate zork is You're standing in front of the most incredibly boring and nondescript white house you've ever seen. What now?> |
| 03:07.00 | Rowne | Oh, d'oh! |
| 03:07.08 | kergoth | lets see... check this out |
| 03:07.10 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate zork is <reply>You're standing in front of the most incredibly boring and nondescript white house you've ever seen. What now?> |
| 03:07.11 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:07.13 | *** join/##ace Te1 (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 03:07.15 | Rowne | !emulate zork |
| 03:07.17 | purl | You're standing in front of the most incredibly boring and nondescript white house you've ever seen. What now?> |
| 03:07.18 | Cair | purl: no, bored is <reply>Lalala, soooo bored! |
| 03:07.20 | purl | Cair: okay |
| 03:07.22 | kergoth | the bot's factoids can accept arguments |
| 03:07.26 | kergoth | !literal herring |
| 03:07.29 | kergoth | erm |
| 03:07.34 | kergoth | !literal CMD: herring (.*?) |
| 03:07.36 | purl | "cmd: herring (.*?)" is "($1): <action> whacks $1 on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred" |
| 03:07.39 | kergoth | see |
| 03:07.58 | Rowne | purl: no, bored is <Reply> La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 03:08.00 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:08.02 | kergoth | !listkeys CMD: |
| 03:08.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:08.21 | kergoth | !bunnyslap Cair |
| 03:08.23 | purl | ACTION smacks Cair with a fluffy bunny named Htogrek. |
| 03:08.23 | Te1 | what's up with my connection to this place... |
| 03:08.28 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:08.32 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 03:08.42 | Te1 | grr... |
| 03:08.50 | Te1 | why am I still connected |
| 03:08.57 | Te1 | twice |
| 03:08.59 | Cair | hmph |
| 03:09.06 | kergoth | Te1: your old onoe hasnt timed out yet |
| 03:09.11 | kergoth | Te1: you should register your nick |
| 03:09.15 | kergoth | then you can kill the old one off |
| 03:09.19 | Te1 | where? |
| 03:09.23 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.27 | kergoth | or /nickserv help |
| 03:10.00 | Te1 | got it thanks |
| 03:11.07 | Te1 | how long does it take for it to time out? |
| 03:11.10 | Te1 | geez... |
| 03:12.08 | kergoth | !listkeys CMD: |
| 03:12.12 | Rowne | Tem that is the clone of Tem, go away! |
| 03:12.23 | kergoth | !fishsmite purl |
| 03:12.24 | purl | ACTION slaps purl around a bit with a large salmon |
| 03:12.27 | Rowne | !kill Tem |
| 03:12.31 | purl | ACTION shoots a pseudophoton gun at Tem |
| 03:12.32 | Rowne | Awww. |
| 03:12.35 | Rowne | Hahaha. |
| 03:12.39 | kergoth | !kill Tem |
| 03:12.40 | purl | ACTION shoots a proton gun at Tem |
| 03:13.30 | Rowne | !explode Tem |
| 03:13.31 | purl | ACTION blows up Tem with bombs |
| 03:13.41 | kergoth | !dos Tem |
| 03:13.42 | purl | Opening the icmp floodgates:\n for i in `seq 0 1024`; do echo "Pinging Tem"; ping -s Tem"; done |
| 03:13.50 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 03:13.57 | Rowne | !bash Tem |
| 03:13.58 | purl | ACTION beats Tem with ksh |
| 03:14.03 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 03:14.10 | kergoth | haha, thats awesome |
| 03:14.23 | Rowne | !bash me |
| 03:14.25 | purl | ACTION beats rowne with ksh |
| 03:14.29 | Rowne | Nifty! |
| 03:14.36 | Rowne | !trascend Tem |
| 03:14.44 | kergoth | !rlart |
| 03:14.49 | kergoth | (random) |
| 03:14.55 | Rowne | !rinsult |
| 03:15.03 | Tain | Hey! |
| 03:15.03 | Rowne | Whoops. |
| 03:15.25 | Rowne | !rimshot |
| 03:15.26 | purl | ch-ch-chhh |
| 03:15.55 | Rowne | I cannot BELIEVE what you guys have taught this thing, ker. :p |
| 03:15.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:15.58 | kergoth | !dance |
| 03:15.59 | purl | ACTION becomes steve ballmer |
| 03:16.03 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:16.16 | kergoth | its been collecting data for years :) |
| 03:16.23 | Rowne | purl: Ballroom dancing? |
| 03:16.26 | kergoth | the 4 bots are in like 50 channels |
| 03:16.34 | Rowne | purl: What do you know, exactly? |
| 03:16.47 | kergoth | purl: what do you know? |
| 03:16.50 | Rowne | !einstein |
| 03:16.51 | purl | just because you're albert einstein doesn't mean you drink on the house or you're the inventor of the white guy fro |
| 03:16.56 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:17.00 | kergoth | !forget einstein |
| 03:17.05 | Rowne | Awww. |
| 03:17.07 | Tain | Hey cool, Invader Zim soundtrack. |
| 03:17.11 | Rowne | !freud |
| 03:17.12 | purl | i guess freud is a dead psychoanalysis guy, but sex obsessed, but a dead pervert, but causes you to no longer accept that a cigar is just a cigar |
| 03:17.14 | kergoth | problem is, it collects crap |
| 03:17.24 | kergoth | so many people messing with it |
| 03:17.37 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:17.37 | Cair | sern |
| 03:17.40 | kergoth | !sourceforge |
| 03:17.41 | purl | [sourceforge] crap, or a pain in the ass |
| 03:17.45 | Rowne | ker, we -need- a MegaHAL. |
| 03:17.45 | kergoth | so true |
| 03:17.48 | Cair | grrrrrr, shut up for 2 sec! |
| 03:17.49 | Rowne | I'm tempted to do it myself. ;p |
| 03:17.53 | kergoth | !echo off |
| 03:17.55 | purl | Everyone be silent, now is not the time for speaking, now is the time for obeying the great neon sign that says; "SHUT UP!" |
| 03:17.55 | Rowne | Cair: Do !echo off |
| 03:18.35 | Cair | thank you |
| 03:18.40 | Cair | sorry |
| 03:20.38 | Rowne | How chitiny. |
| 03:20.43 | Cair | you can talk again now, honest |
| 03:20.54 | Cair | I sowwy |
| 03:20.57 | Rowne | I don't think any of us object to being told to shut the hell up, Cair. |
| 03:21.00 | Rowne | Seriously. |
| 03:21.05 | kergoth | nah, we're used to it |
| 03:21.11 | Rowne | We're geeks, we have to tell each other to shut up sometimes just so other geeks can think. ;p |
| 03:21.12 | Tain | I don't think any of us don't deserve it, either. :) |
| 03:21.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:21.42 | kergoth | !listkeys emulate |
| 03:21.46 | Tain | I'm not sure I deserved that. |
| 03:21.46 | Rowne | Why does that sound so familiar? |
| 03:21.54 | Tain | No, that one I deserved. |
| 03:21.55 | Rowne | Tain, who's Cap'n Jack Sparrow from? |
| 03:22.01 | kergoth | !emulate dallasdrivers |
| 03:22.03 | purl | ACTION follows you and crashes into you repeatedly. Why? Because he does not want to go home, that's why! |
| 03:22.03 | Rowne | s/who/where/ |
| 03:22.08 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:22.13 | Cair | it's just whenever I'm typing in one channel (in this case, was trying to get nicks registered, etc), and you guys say something in here, it automatically moves my typing over to here |
| 03:22.14 | Tain | Pirates of the Carribbean. |
| 03:22.19 | kergoth | !emulate exchange |
| 03:22.21 | purl | ACTION eats your time and budget then crashes. You will not be able to send or recieve any email for the rest of the day. |
| 03:22.23 | Cair | one thing annoying about Gaim |
| 03:22.23 | Rowne | Oh yes, of course! |
| 03:22.32 | Tain | You can change that if you want to, Cair. |
| 03:22.34 | kergoth | Cair: ahh |
| 03:22.41 | Cair | mmmmmmmmm, Cap'n Jack Sparrow |
| 03:22.59 | Cair | you can? how? |
| 03:23.03 | Rowne | I prefer Doctor Who's Cap'n Jack! |
| 03:23.05 | Rowne | ... I said nothing. |
| 03:23.15 | Tain | I forget, I haven't used gaim in a long time. |
| 03:23.18 | Tain | But I know you can! |
| 03:23.29 | Cair | god, it's been so frigging long since I've IRC'd, and I'm brand new to Gaim |
| 03:23.32 | kergoth | that would drive me _nuts_ |
| 03:23.35 | kergoth | i'm in like 30 channels. |
| 03:23.39 | Cair | it IS driving me nuts |
| 03:23.45 | Rowne | I turned it off. |
| 03:23.48 | Rowne | I just ... don't remember how. |
| 03:23.51 | Rowne | !emulate Rowne |
| 03:23.52 | purl | Abuuuh? |
| 03:23.53 | Tain | Kick it. |
| 03:23.58 | Tain | That works for me. |
| 03:24.13 | Tain | Violence is always the first resort. |
| 03:24.14 | kergoth | heh, whats up with tem's connection |
| 03:24.22 | Cair | I'm busy flirting with someone in one channel, and behaving in here, and damnit all if I haven't near sent some interesting messages to this channel by mistake |
| 03:24.29 | Tain | Tsk tsk. |
| 03:24.53 | kergoth | eep, i dunno if we could handle interesting, being puppies and all |
| 03:25.06 | Cair | precisely |
| 03:25.40 | kergoth | take that! |
| 03:25.52 | Cair | oh baby, oh baby, hit me again! |
| 03:26.06 | kergoth | you know you love it :P |
| 03:26.22 | Cair | lol |
| 03:26.30 | kergoth | s/yoyo/pineapple/ |
| 03:26.37 | Rowne | !boom |
| 03:26.38 | purl | The World's First Linux-Only Modification For Quake 2. URL: http://fragland.net/boom/ |
| 03:26.44 | Rowne | o.O |
| 03:26.51 | Rowne | !explode, damn you! |
| 03:26.53 | Tain | Hit me baby one more time? |
| 03:26.56 | kergoth | purl: i love you! |
| 03:26.57 | purl | You love you!? |
| 03:26.57 | Rowne | !explode |
| 03:26.59 | purl | BOOOM |
| 03:27.00 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:27.09 | kergoth | !botsnack |
| 03:27.09 | purl | thanks, kergoth |
| 03:27.25 | Rowne | !bad bot |
| 03:27.26 | purl | Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 03:27.30 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:27.36 | Rowne | !parrot |
| 03:27.37 | purl | i guess parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF |
| 03:27.49 | kergoth | that one must be from #handhelds.org |
| 03:27.54 | kergoth | linux on ipaq folks |
| 03:27.55 | Rowne | I need to feed the dictionary to this thing. |
| 03:27.59 | Rowne | !aardvark |
| 03:28.01 | purl | it has been said that aardvark is an anteating nocturnal mammal of southern africa |
| 03:28.05 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:28.16 | Rowne | !existentialism |
| 03:28.24 | Rowne | Ha! Got you there, Mr. Bot. |
| 03:28.35 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 03:28.36 | kergoth | !feminism |
| 03:28.38 | purl | from memory, feminism is the masculinization of otherwise good women |
| 03:28.49 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 03:28.56 | Cair | ! |
| 03:29.01 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:29.03 | kergoth | that one wasnt mine |
| 03:29.06 | kergoth | !factinfo feminism |
| 03:29.06 | purl | feminism -- created by anomaly <anomaly@iinet1.faulkner.edu> at Wed Apr 18 04:58:41 2001 (1636 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by kergoth, 28s ago. |
| 03:29.12 | kergoth | 2001, damn |
| 03:29.15 | Rowne | !masculinity |
| 03:29.26 | Rowne | Wot, feminine but no masculine? |
| 03:29.40 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 03:29.41 | kergoth | !women |
| 03:29.42 | purl | women are mean political witches |
| 03:29.49 | kergoth | !woman |
| 03:29.51 | purl | [woman] do a 'man woman' (apt-get install funny-manpages) |
| 03:29.51 | Cair | !! |
| 03:29.52 | purl | [!] what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass |
| 03:29.52 | Cair | >< |
| 03:29.53 | Rowne | !masculine is <Reply>I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum ... but I'm all out of gum. Wait ... no. |
| 03:29.54 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:30.09 | kergoth | !girls |
| 03:30.10 | purl | the root of all evil |
| 03:30.15 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:30.17 | kergoth | !botsnack |
| 03:30.17 | purl | aw, gee, kergoth |
| 03:30.19 | Rowne | !machina |
| 03:30.24 | Rowne | !deus ex |
| 03:30.25 | purl | from memory, deus ex is http://www.deusex.com/ or http://www.deusex.com/intro_top.asp or http://www.deus-ex.org/ |
| 03:30.36 | Rowne | Aw pfoo. |
| 03:30.40 | Rowne | !deus ex machina |
| 03:30.44 | kergoth | !factinfo girls |
| 03:30.44 | purl | girls -- created by _Psycho <~Bob@MTL-HSE-ppp165799.qc.sympatico.ca> at Mon Apr 7 00:29:16 2003 (918 days); it has been requested 6 times, last by kergoth, 34s ago. |
| 03:30.55 | kergoth | i remember when we created that one :P |
| 03:31.20 | Rowne | !balloon |
| 03:31.22 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 03:31.31 | Rowne | Wow, another word it doesn't know. |
| 03:31.41 | kergoth | !god |
| 03:31.42 | purl | hmm... god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 03:31.42 | Rowne | We -so- need a MegaHAL though, I'd have too much fun twisting it. |
| 03:31.46 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:31.55 | kergoth | !llama |
| 03:31.57 | purl | [llama] the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf |
| 03:32.07 | Rowne | I am SO not clicking that. |
| 03:32.14 | kergoth | yay, the llama song |
| 03:32.18 | kergoth | you need to, if you've never seen it |
| 03:32.19 | Rowne | !banana |
| 03:32.21 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, banana is a fruit, or banana.com, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/lucio/banana.txt |
| 03:32.35 | Rowne | I am so not clicking THAT, either. |
| 03:32.39 | Tem | !emulate tem |
| 03:32.40 | purl | ZOMG, way #1,732 to break Warcraft! Sloouuken! |
| 03:32.40 | Rowne | !kenya |
| 03:32.41 | kergoth | click on the llama song :D |
| 03:33.02 | Rowne | Oh fine, then. |
| 03:33.07 | Rowne | !lart kergoth |
| 03:33.25 | Rowne | AIEEEE! |
| 03:33.26 | Tem | Rowne: is hooking ReloadUI sufficient for detecting a reload? |
| 03:33.31 | kergoth | eep |
| 03:33.45 | Rowne | Tem: Nope. |
| 03:33.50 | Rowne | Because it actually fires before your hook. |
| 03:33.51 | Rowne | Somehow. |
| 03:33.54 | Rowne | I tried that myself. |
| 03:33.57 | Cair | purl: no, men is <reply>Chauvinistic pigs that don't know a good thing when they see it |
| 03:33.59 | purl | Cair: okay |
| 03:34.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.09 | kergoth | !man |
| 03:34.10 | purl | i guess man is Displays the manual page for that given command or resource (that is, any system utility that isn't a command, such as a library function. Syntax: man (command). Where command is the name of the command or resource to get help on. Example: man ls gives help on the ls command. |
| 03:34.11 | Cair | hmph |
| 03:34.17 | kergoth | huh |
| 03:34.18 | kergoth | !man ls |
| 03:34.25 | kergoth | aw |
| 03:34.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.48 | Rowne | Hm. |
| 03:34.49 | Cair | !men |
| 03:34.50 | purl | Chauvinistic pigs that don't know a good thing when they see it |
| 03:34.50 | Rowne | !kenya |
| 03:34.55 | Rowne | I need to teach it kenya. |
| 03:35.05 | Tain | Oink. |
| 03:35.19 | kergoth | did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on the llama? |
| 03:35.23 | Cair | ya'll want to insult women, I can stand up and hand back in kind :p |
| 03:35.35 | kergoth | good! |
| 03:35.53 | Cair | you guys really *aren't* used to having a female in channel, are you? |
| 03:36.20 | kergoth | i am, there are women in a few of the channels i frequent |
| 03:36.33 | kergoth | admittedly, not many, since there arent all that many female open source devs |
| 03:36.41 | Cair | I mean ones that do something other than spread their legs for you :p |
| 03:36.44 | Rowne | !kenya is Where can you find Lions? Only http://mastaile.mine.nu/kenya1.mov ! |
| 03:36.45 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:36.59 | kergoth | Cair: heh, none of the ones in the channels i'm in do that :P |
| 03:37.04 | Tain | haha yeah no kidding. |
| 03:37.08 | Rowne | And it's another, much like Yatta! But I really love that one. :p |
| 03:37.10 | Tain | I was going to ask what channel that was. ;) |
| 03:37.13 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:37.30 | Cair | god, get a sense of humour guys :p |
| 03:37.41 | Tem | is it made of lemon juice? doorknob ankle cold. |
| 03:37.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:37.50 | Tain | It was more a lamentation. |
| 03:37.53 | kergoth | that song has a tendency to get stuck in your head |
| 03:37.56 | kergoth | its evil |
| 03:38.05 | Tem | so... I shouldn't have it looping? |
| 03:38.07 | Cair | bah |
| 03:38.29 | kergoth | clearly there isnt enough alcohol flowing |
| 03:38.35 | Tain | Yeah it's all gone. |
| 03:39.08 | Cair | James Clavell's ShoGun |
| 03:39.08 | Tain | 1.75 liters of rum only lasts about 48 hours in my house. |
| 03:39.31 | Rowne | !cleveland is Where can you see aliens? Only in cleveland! Only in cleveland, is there a completely fabricated city of nonexistance that Rowne refuses to believe in the existance of! |
| 03:39.32 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:39.54 | Rowne | Oh, bah. |
| 03:40.05 | Tain | !tick |
| 03:40.09 | Rowne | purl: no, cleveland is <reply> Where can you see aliens? Only in cleveland! Only in cleveland, is there a completely fabricated city of nonexistance that Rowne refuses to believe in the existance of! |
| 03:40.11 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:40.12 | kergoth | !emulate tick |
| 03:40.16 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:40.19 | kergoth | thats no good |
| 03:40.30 | Rowne | !tick is <reply>Gads, my melon! |
| 03:40.31 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:40.42 | Tain | !tick is <reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick! |
| 03:40.44 | purl | ...but tick is already something else... |
| 03:40.49 | Rowne | Hahahaha, oops. |
| 03:41.08 | Rowne | purl: no, tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick! |
| 03:41.10 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:41.20 | Rowne | !tick |
| 03:41.22 | purl | Gads, my melon! |
| 03:41.48 | kergoth | irc is such a great time waster |
| 03:42.11 | kergoth | whee, now the llama song isnt stuck in my head anymore, kenya is |
| 03:43.06 | Rowne | purl: no, tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply> Ah, savory cheese puffs, made inedible by time and fate.||<reply> And my middle name used to be Helping People, The Helping People Tick.||<reply> And so, may Evil beware and may Good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.||<reply> Sanity, you're a madman!||<reply> Arthur, we're a daddy!||<reply> Don't ever try to swim against the mighty tide of justi |
| 03:43.08 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:43.10 | Rowne | Did all that get in, ker? |
| 03:43.18 | kergoth | mighty tide of jusit |
| 03:43.20 | kergoth | er justi |
| 03:43.27 | Tain | purl: no tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>I'm nigh-invulnerable||<reply>And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever! |
| 03:43.28 | purl | okay, Tain |
| 03:43.40 | Rowne | Tain's is better. :p |
| 03:43.46 | Rowne | !tick |
| 03:43.47 | purl | And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
| 03:44.06 | Rowne | !tick |
| 03:44.07 | purl | Naughty spawn, you face The Tick! |
| 03:44.20 | Rowne | Now we need one for Earthworm Jim! |
| 03:44.23 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:44.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:44.31 | kergoth | !ewj |
| 03:44.33 | Tain | Can you keep adding on? Or do you have to replace all? I missed the answer earlier. |
| 03:44.49 | Tem | I don't think you can add on |
| 03:44.49 | kergoth | you can add, but only with 'is also', and that prepends 'or, ' to what you're adding |
| 03:44.51 | kergoth | so not really |
| 03:44.57 | Tain | Oh ok |
| 03:45.17 | Tem | so I want ker to pester the right people to get an append command |
| 03:45.38 | kergoth | !emulate tim |
| 03:45.40 | kergoth | !emulate timriker |
| 03:45.42 | purl | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 03:45.47 | kergoth | right there |
| 03:45.50 | kergoth | if i suggest it |
| 03:45.54 | kergoth | he'll go 'patches welcome!' |
| 03:45.54 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:45.59 | kergoth | so code it, then we'll get it |
| 03:46.04 | Tem | um... |
| 03:46.09 | Tem | I don't know how to begin this |
| 03:46.14 | Tem | what language> |
| 03:46.16 | kergoth | !blootbot |
| 03:46.17 | purl | somebody said blootbot was an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 03:46.21 | Rowne | !earhtworm jim is <reply> Come on little buddy, let's get that crazed surgeon to switch our heads back.||<reply> Never in my years....Have I seen SUCH GLORY!!! Even my T-Shirt pays homage!||<reply> Wow... A Dream Sequence... GROOVY!! Bring on the dancin' girls!||<reply> Not now Peter, I'm laughing at fate.||<reply>Groovy!||<reply>"Um.", "Um.", "Um.", "Girls?" |
| 03:46.23 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:46.27 | Tem | bah perl |
| 03:46.33 | Tem | I never bothered learning perl |
| 03:46.35 | Rowne | Did that one go through, ker? |
| 03:46.42 | kergoth | "Girls?" was the end of it |
| 03:46.44 | kergoth | is that right? |
| 03:46.46 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 03:46.49 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:47.03 | kergoth | you typoed it :P |
| 03:47.12 | Rowne | Crap! |
| 03:47.18 | Rowne | !earthworm jim is <reply> Come on little buddy, let's get that crazed surgeon to switch our heads back.||<reply> Never in my years....Have I seen SUCH GLORY!!! Even my T-Shirt pays homage!||<reply> Wow... A Dream Sequence... GROOVY!! Bring on the dancin' girls!||<reply> Not now Peter, I'm laughing at fate.||<reply>Groovy!||<reply>"Um.", "Um.", "Um.", "Girls?" |
| 03:47.20 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:47.22 | Rowne | Forget the other, would ya ker? |
| 03:47.26 | kergoth | !forget earhtworm jim |
| 03:47.26 | purl | i forgot earhtworm jim, kergoth |
| 03:47.27 | Rowne | I'll try and remember how it's done, this time. ;p |
| 03:47.32 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:47.33 | purl | Groovy! |
| 03:47.40 | kergoth | hahaha wtf |
| 03:47.41 | kergoth | <purl> Stop abusing forget! |
| 03:47.44 | kergoth | it just messaged me that |
| 03:47.57 | kergoth | !forget earhtworm jim |
| 03:47.57 | purl | kergoth: i didn't have anything called 'earhtworm jim' to forget |
| 03:47.58 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 03:48.12 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:48.14 | purl | Wow... A Dream Sequence... GROOVY!! Bring on the dancin' girls! |
| 03:50.07 | Rowne | !peter the puppy is <reply> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.||<reply> The day has just begun already your mind has snapped like a dry and brittle twig.||<reply> Good job we reinforced the door after the incident with the old lady from UNICEF. |
| 03:50.08 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:50.13 | Rowne | !peter the puppy |
| 03:50.14 | purl | I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. |
| 03:50.24 | Rowne | Pff, that's actually wrong. |
| 03:50.38 | Rowne | purl: no, peter the puppy is <reply> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total oblivion.||<reply> The day has just begun already your mind has snapped like a dry and brittle twig.||<reply> Good job we reinforced the door after the incident with the old lady from UNICEF. |
| 03:50.40 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:50.49 | Rowne | !peter the puppy |
| 03:50.51 | purl | I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total oblivion. |
| 03:51.05 | Rowne | Maybe I should stop teaching it things, now. |
| 03:51.16 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:51.17 | kergoth | !lua |
| 03:51.18 | purl | rumour has it, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 03:51.26 | Tem | I have a firefox extension that adds a "I must not fear" option to the tools menu |
| 03:51.26 | kergoth | !botsnack |
| 03:51.26 | purl | kergoth: aw, gee |
| 03:51.29 | Rowne | Though I'd love to go through Dominic Deegan and teach it everything Spark has said. |
| 03:51.32 | Tain | purl: no tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>I'm nigh-invulnerable.||<reply>||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever!||<reply>Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads.||<reply>Well, once again we find that clowning and anarchy don't mix.||<reply>Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big!||<reply>Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before t |
| 03:51.33 | purl | okay, Tain |
| 03:51.37 | Rowne | Tain: What does it doooo? |
| 03:51.37 | Tem | it brings up a window with that mantra |
| 03:51.44 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 03:51.45 | kergoth | "don't count your weasels before t" |
| 03:51.47 | Rowne | Oh, Tem, rather. |
| 03:51.59 | Tem | It made me laugh so I downloaded it |
| 03:52.27 | Tain | Aw I couldn't fit, "Bad man... hit dog... with *street*!" |
| 03:52.41 | kergoth | you didnt even fit what you tried to put in |
| 03:52.46 | kergoth | it ended at "before t" |
| 03:52.50 | kergoth | fix it :P |
| 03:52.56 | Tain | ah damn |
| 03:53.35 | Rowne | This is why we need a MegaHAL. |
| 03:53.45 | Rowne | Because then we could teach it random things concurrently and consequentially! |
| 03:53.51 | Tain | purl: no tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever!||<reply>Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads.||<reply>Well, once again we find that clowning and anarchy don't mix.||<reply>Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big!||<reply>Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink!||<reply>Bad man... hit do |
| 03:53.52 | purl | Tain: okay |
| 03:53.57 | Rowne | '... hit do' |
| 03:53.58 | kergoth | bad man... hit do |
| 03:54.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:54.09 | Tain | purl: no tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever!||<reply>Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads.||<reply>Well, once again we find that clowning and anarchy don't mix.||<reply>Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big!||<reply>Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink! |
| 03:54.11 | purl | Tain: okay |
| 03:54.17 | Rowne | !tick |
| 03:54.18 | purl | Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink! |
| 03:54.39 | kergoth | !emulate tick is <reply> see also tick |
| 03:54.40 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 03:54.41 | kergoth | !emulate tick |
| 03:54.43 | purl | Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads. |
| 03:54.46 | kergoth | ;) |
| 03:54.51 | kergoth | <reply> see also is special cased |
| 03:54.53 | Rowne | !earthworm jim then |
| 03:54.58 | kergoth | it jumps to another factoid |
| 03:54.59 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:55.00 | purl | "Um.", "Um.", "Um.", "Girls?" |
| 03:55.10 | Rowne | Yay for Jim's four brains! |
| 03:55.23 | Rowne | !earthworm jim |
| 03:55.24 | purl | Groovy! |
| 03:55.25 | kergoth | !emulate dib |
| 03:55.26 | purl | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 03:55.33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:55.42 | Tem | So Rowne, how did you get detecting reloads to work if hooking ReloadUI doesn't work? |
| 03:55.54 | Rowne | I didn't, Tem. |
| 03:56.07 | Rowne | My slash-command and keybinding point at my own functions. |
| 03:56.16 | Tain | purl: no tick is <reply>Gads, my melon!||<reply>Naughty spawn, you face The Tick!||<reply>SPOON!||<reply>Eating kittens is just plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever!||<reply>Not baked goods, Professor; baked bads.||<reply>Bad man hit dog with *street*!||<reply>Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big!||<reply>Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink! |
| 03:56.18 | purl | okay, Tain |
| 03:56.18 | Rowne | Which instill a 0.3 second pause between my functions and ReloadUI. ;p |
| 03:56.18 | Tem | curses! |
| 03:56.23 | Tain | Ah |
| 03:56.52 | Rowne | !tick |
| 03:56.54 | purl | Whoa-oh! Surprise hug from Mr. Freaky-Big! |
| 03:57.28 | kergoth | !emulate dib |
| 03:57.30 | purl | Oh you're just *begging* to face the MOOSE. |
| 03:57.36 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 03:57.47 | Rowne | !zeeg is at the bottom of the food-chain. |
| 03:57.48 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:57.51 | Rowne | !zeeg |
| 03:57.52 | purl | [zeeg] at the bottom of the food-chain. |
| 03:58.19 | Rowne | !altoids |
| 03:58.35 | Rowne | !altoids is <reply>Gimme now or DIE a horribly death by FEATHER DUSTER! |
| 03:58.37 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 03:58.39 | kergoth | !jello |
| 03:58.40 | purl | jello is probably confused, or probably related to J. Lo |
| 03:58.44 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:58.47 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 03:58.52 | Rowne | !altoids |
| 03:58.53 | purl | Gimme now or DIE a horribly death by FEATHER DUSTER! |
| 03:59.11 | Rowne | !mint |
| 03:59.13 | kergoth | s/horribly/horrible/? |
| 03:59.19 | Rowne | Yes. |
| 03:59.22 | Rowne | Damn. |
| 03:59.33 | Rowne | purl: no, altoids is <reply>Gimme now or DIE a horrible death by FEATHER DUSTER! |
| 03:59.34 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 03:59.48 | Rowne | !mint is <reply>Screw mint, I want altoids! |
| 03:59.49 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:00.06 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:00.09 | kergoth | !listkeys kergoth |
| 04:00.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:00.23 | kergoth | gee, you'd think i've been around a while or something |
| 04:00.30 | Rowne | !kill |
| 04:00.32 | Tem | !annoy kergoth |
| 04:00.33 | purl | kergoth: where's the 'any' key?!?!?! where's the frickin' 'any' key?!?!?! |
| 04:00.37 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:00.38 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 04:00.48 | kergoth | i was still in tech support at that point :P |
| 04:00.50 | Rowne | !rannoy |
| 04:00.56 | kergoth | !literal rlart |
| 04:00.59 | purl | "rlart" is "<reply> see lart $randnick" |
| 04:01.09 | Rowne | !rinsult |
| 04:01.20 | Rowne | Eeep. |
| 04:01.24 | kergoth | an assload, eh |
| 04:01.40 | kergoth | !kergoth sounds |
| 04:01.42 | purl | RTFM sounds |
| 04:01.45 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:01.48 | Rowne | Hahaha. |
| 04:01.55 | Rowne | !rowne sounds |
| 04:02.00 | kergoth | !shoot kergoth |
| 04:02.02 | purl | ACTION shoots kergoth in the foot with a spitwad! |
| 04:02.04 | kergoth | !shoot kergoth again |
| 04:02.05 | purl | ACTION shoots kergoth again in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 04:02.05 | Rowne | Awww, it doesn't work like that. |
| 04:02.12 | kergoth | !listvalues kergoth |
| 04:02.27 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:02.28 | kergoth | !kergoth's tattoo |
| 04:02.30 | purl | [kergoth's tattoo] a valknut (http://openembedded.org/dl/kergoth/valknut_tattoo1.jpg). Ask me about valknut for details. |
| 04:02.47 | kergoth | figured that was a dead link |
| 04:02.50 | kergoth | !forget kergoth's tattoo |
| 04:02.51 | purl | i forgot kergoth's tattoo, kergoth |
| 04:02.59 | Rowne | !everything |
| 04:03.05 | kergoth | !answer |
| 04:03.08 | purl | 42 |
| 04:03.11 | kergoth | :D |
| 04:03.13 | Rowne | Hee. |
| 04:03.19 | Rowne | !hhgttg |
| 04:03.20 | purl | methinks hhgttg is Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. A fine, fine book, with practical travel tips for galactic tourists. Don't forget your towel! |
| 04:03.35 | Rowne | !arthur dent |
| 04:03.36 | purl | i heard arthur dent is a kneebiter and a jerk |
| 04:03.36 | Tem | half a llama twice the llama not a llama farmer llama in a car alarm a llama duck! |
| 04:03.41 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:03.52 | kergoth | !thursday |
| 04:03.53 | purl | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 04:04.04 | Rowne | !beeblebrox |
| 04:04.06 | purl | rumour has it, beeblebrox is mailto:beeblebrox@softhome.net |
| 04:04.11 | Tain | !inigo |
| 04:04.12 | kergoth | heh, must be a nick |
| 04:04.13 | Rowne | Pff. |
| 04:04.20 | Rowne | !zaphod beeblebrox |
| 04:04.26 | kergoth | !zaphod |
| 04:04.28 | purl | i guess zaphod is just this guy, you know? |
| 04:04.30 | Tain | !inigo is <reply>Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die.||<reply>He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using.||<reply>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.||<reply>Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.||<reply>Fezzik, tear his arms off.||<reply>Humiliations galore! |
| 04:04.31 | purl | Tain: okay |
| 04:04.31 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:04.47 | kergoth | yay |
| 04:04.48 | Rowne | !inigo |
| 04:04.50 | purl | Humiliations galore! |
| 04:04.50 | kergoth | princess bride rocks |
| 04:05.20 | Rowne | You need to do the sicic... sci... alledgedly smart guy who dies whilst laughing. |
| 04:05.39 | Tain | haha Vizzini |
| 04:05.47 | Rowne | Yes, Vizzini! |
| 04:05.52 | Rowne | purl: Be quiet! |
| 04:05.54 | purl | Ah, shuddup. |
| 04:06.01 | kergoth | You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! the most famous of which is never get involved in a land war in asia! But only slightly less well known is this! Never go in against a sicilian, when DEATH is on the line! hahahahahaha |
| 04:06.01 | Rowne | purl: You shuddup! |
| 04:06.25 | Rowne | purl: Take a short drive off a long pier! |
| 04:06.30 | Rowne | Nowait. |
| 04:06.39 | Rowne | purl: Take a long drive off a short pier! |
| 04:06.42 | Rowne | That's better. |
| 04:06.45 | Rowne | Hm. |
| 04:06.49 | Rowne | purl: You idiot! |
| 04:06.56 | Rowne | Aww. |
| 04:07.02 | Rowne | purl: EXPLODE |
| 04:07.04 | purl | BOOOM |
| 04:07.11 | kergoth | !emulate gir |
| 04:07.12 | purl | where's my moose? |
| 04:07.24 | Rowne | purl: zim |
| 04:07.25 | purl | A perl/tk instant-messenger client wrapper for the Zephyr Notification Service. URL: http://www.duke.edu/~gac3/zim.html |
| 04:07.32 | kergoth | !emulate zim |
| 04:07.33 | purl | THE CANDY ZOMBIES! |
| 04:07.34 | Cair | lol, you guys really are having fun, aren't you? |
| 04:07.42 | kergoth | what can i say, easily entertained |
| 04:07.47 | Rowne | It'd be more fun if it was a MegaHAL. |
| 04:07.50 | Rowne | We need a MegaHAL. |
| 04:07.52 | Tem | !emulate Cair |
| 04:07.54 | kergoth | !emulate zim |
| 04:07.55 | purl | THE DIB! HE'S MISSING! THEY'VE TAKEN HIM AND DRAINED HIM OF HIS _sweet sweet blood candies_ |
| 04:07.56 | Rowne | We neeed a MegaHAL. |
| 04:08.08 | Rowne | Eeew. |
| 04:08.18 | kergoth | <numist> ~emulate fry |
| 04:08.18 | kergoth | <jbot> Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
| 04:08.21 | Tem | !emulate cair is <action> purs. |
| 04:08.23 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:08.28 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:08.30 | purl | ACTION purs. |
| 04:08.34 | Cair | typo |
| 04:08.40 | Tem | indeed |
| 04:08.45 | Rowne | purl: no, Cair is <reply>typo |
| 04:08.46 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:08.50 | Cair | ROFL |
| 04:09.04 | kergoth | !forget cair |
| 04:09.05 | purl | i forgot cair, kergoth |
| 04:09.06 | Rowne | purl: no, Cair is <reply>Roffle, is that even a word? |
| 04:09.08 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:09.12 | kergoth | <purl> Stop abusing forget! |
| 04:09.12 | kergoth | <purl> forget: Ignoring you for abuse! |
| 04:09.13 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:09.16 | kergoth | the bot ignored me! |
| 04:09.23 | Tain | !vizzini is <reply>Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?||<reply>INCONCEIVABLE!||<reply>I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains.||<reply>Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? Morons! |
| 04:09.24 | purl | okay, Tain |
| 04:09.33 | Tem | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply> Typo! || <action> purrs. |
| 04:09.34 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:09.54 | Cair | >< |
| 04:09.59 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:10.01 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 04:10.01 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply> Typo! || <action> purrs. || <action> goes back to her library. |
| 04:10.04 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:10.12 | Cair | !forget Cair |
| 04:10.12 | purl | Cair: i forgot cair |
| 04:10.20 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:10.22 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 04:10.25 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 04:10.35 | Rowne | Aww. |
| 04:10.39 | Cair | :p |
| 04:10.41 | Tain | hehe |
| 04:10.42 | Cair | no emulating me |
| 04:10.48 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:10.49 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 04:10.56 | Tem | !literal emulate cair |
| 04:10.58 | purl | "emulate cair" is "<reply> Typo! || <action> purrs. || <action> goes back to her library." |
| 04:11.05 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:11.06 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 04:11.10 | Tem | wtf |
| 04:11.10 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:11.11 | Cair | !forget emulate cair |
| 04:11.20 | Cair | grrrrr |
| 04:11.30 | kergoth | !kergoth |
| 04:11.39 | Rowne | You killed the bot, Cair! |
| 04:11.43 | Cair | GOOD |
| 04:11.46 | Rowne | purl: EXPLODE |
| 04:11.48 | purl | BOOOM |
| 04:11.48 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:11.53 | Tem | !emulate Cair is <reply> Typo! || <action> purrs. || <action> goes back to her library. |
| 04:11.55 | purl | i already had it that way, Tem |
| 04:11.55 | kergoth | Rowne: the bot ignored me |
| 04:11.55 | Rowne | purl: emulate cair |
| 04:11.56 | purl | ACTION goes back to her library. |
| 04:11.58 | kergoth | Rowne: for 'abuse' |
| 04:12.03 | kergoth | Rowne: due to me doing too much 'forget'ing |
| 04:12.09 | Rowne | Whoops. |
| 04:12.11 | Tem | !emulate cair |
| 04:12.13 | purl | ACTION goes back to her library. |
| 04:12.13 | Rowne | Poor kergoth. |
| 04:12.13 | Tain | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply>Typo!||<action>purrs.||<action>goes back to her library.||<reply>Oops wrong channel >< |
| 04:12.14 | purl | okay, Tain |
| 04:12.24 | Cair | hey! |
| 04:12.27 | Tem | lol tain |
| 04:12.27 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 04:12.28 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:12.38 | Tain | Awww |
| 04:12.50 | Tem | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply>Typo!||<action>purrs.||<action>goes back to her library.||<reply>Oops wrong channel ><||<action> pouts. |
| 04:12.51 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:12.57 | Cair | ! |
| 04:13.03 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply>Typo!||<action>purrs.||<action>goes back to her library.||<reply>Oops wrong channel ><||<reply> Sweet, sweet, sweet Turky goodness.||<reply> I'm multitasking and my flirting is being misdirected, damn you all! |
| 04:13.05 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:13.13 | Tain | Oh dear. |
| 04:13.17 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:13.23 | Cair | ... |
| 04:13.33 | Tem | That'll teach cair to say amusing things... |
| 04:13.50 | Cair | !forget cair |
| 04:13.50 | purl | Cair: i didn't have anything called 'cair' to forget |
| 04:13.56 | Cair | !forget Cair |
| 04:13.56 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'cair' to forget, Cair |
| 04:13.57 | Tem | Don't worry Cair we still love you |
| 04:13.58 | Rowne | purl: emulate cair |
| 04:14.00 | purl | Typo! |
| 04:14.05 | Cair | damnit |
| 04:14.12 | kergoth | Cair: cair != emulate cair |
| 04:14.26 | Cair | !forget emulate cair |
| 04:14.27 | Tem | zomg! |
| 04:14.31 | Tem | table completion of names! |
| 04:14.32 | Rowne | I wonder ... |
| 04:14.37 | Rowne | purl: emulate cair |
| 04:14.38 | purl | Sweet, sweet, sweet Turky goodness. |
| 04:14.41 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:14.43 | Rowne | Sorry Cair. |
| 04:14.45 | Cair | it gives me an error message every time |
| 04:14.47 | kergoth | Tem: s/table/tab/? |
| 04:14.54 | Tem | yes |
| 04:14.57 | kergoth | Cair: what message? |
| 04:15.00 | Tem | I didn't even notice lol |
| 04:15.07 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.08 | kergoth | Tem: this is why i want tab completion for guildies/friends in wow. |
| 04:15.27 | kergoth | !emulate cair |
| 04:15.30 | Rowne | !forget !emulate cair |
| 04:15.30 | purl | i didn't have anything called '!emulate cair' to forget, Rowne |
| 04:15.30 | kergoth | damnit |
| 04:15.32 | kergoth | forgot, ignored |
| 04:15.44 | Rowne | !forget emulate cair |
| 04:15.45 | Cair | it keeps popping up a window telling me it's too old and to use no |
| 04:15.52 | kergoth | weird |
| 04:16.07 | Rowne | purl: no, forget emulate cair |
| 04:16.16 | kergoth | no, can only be used to rpelace it |
| 04:16.17 | kergoth | replace it |
| 04:16.19 | kergoth | not remove it |
| 04:16.24 | Tain | Just throw random words at it |
| 04:16.27 | Rowne | purl: emulate cair |
| 04:16.29 | purl | ACTION goes back to her library. |
| 04:16.36 | Rowne | Oh dear. |
| 04:16.39 | Cair | meanies |
| 04:16.41 | Rowne | It cannot be removed! |
| 04:16.43 | Tain | Rowne did it. |
| 04:16.45 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:16.49 | kergoth | poor cair |
| 04:16.58 | Rowne | !emulate cair is |
| 04:17.02 | Rowne | no, emulate cair is |
| 04:17.04 | Rowne | Bah. |
| 04:17.09 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate cair is <reply> |
| 04:17.10 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:17.11 | Tain | tsk tsk |
| 04:17.18 | Rowne | !emulate cair! |
| 04:17.21 | Rowne | !emulate |
| 04:17.23 | Rowne | Bah. |
| 04:17.25 | Rowne | !emulate cair |
| 04:17.26 | Rowne | There. |
| 04:17.29 | Rowne | That should have done it. |
| 04:17.31 | Rowne | Yes! |
| 04:17.39 | Rowne | There you go, cair. ;p |
| 04:17.44 | Rowne | purl: emulate cair |
| 04:17.49 | Rowne | Ha, success! |
| 04:17.49 | Cair | thank you |
| 04:18.12 | Cair | no picking on me, I'm already outnumbered here as it is :p |
| 04:18.24 | Tain | !visor is <reply>WorldFrame go boom! |
| 04:18.25 | purl | ...but visor is already something else... |
| 04:18.31 | Tain | !visor |
| 04:18.32 | purl | somebody said visor was palm done right, http://www.handspring.com or cheaper and faster , and fully compatible, or supported by linux 2.3.40+ (STABLIZED!) visit http://usbvisor.sourceforge.net |
| 04:18.44 | Tain | Bah. |
| 04:18.48 | Rowne | purl: no, emulate Tem is <reply> ZOMG! I've found 5,273 ways to break Warcraft now. Slooouuken?||<reply> Dammit, that's it. I'm making a new [something]!||<reply>Metatables are your friend, embrace them. |
| 04:18.49 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:18.54 | kergoth | leave it, thats a perfectly accurate visor factoid |
| 04:19.05 | Tain | Yes yes. |
| 04:19.16 | Rowne | !acevisor is complete crap but nifty nonetheless. |
| 04:19.18 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:19.30 | Tain | Keep one eye open, Cairenn |
| 04:19.58 | Tem | lol Rowne |
| 04:20.12 | Rowne | !emulate Tem |
| 04:20.13 | purl | Metatables are your friend, embrace them. |
| 04:20.20 | Rowne | !acevisor |
| 04:20.21 | purl | it has been said that acevisor is complete crap but nifty nonetheless. |
| 04:20.23 | Rowne | They both work, good. |
| 04:20.33 | Tem | funny thing is the "I'm making a new ____" is very much me |
| 04:21.09 | Rowne | !bong |
| 04:21.10 | purl | rumour has it, bong is a device for the consumption of drugs. Normally cannabis. The cannabis is berned on a wire mesh, and the resulting smoke is bubbled through water, to cool it and remove many harsh elements, before it is inhaled by the drug 'user' |
| 04:21.35 | Rowne | Very factual. |
| 04:21.40 | Rowne | !beavis |
| 04:21.41 | purl | Mail poller for Enlightenment. URL: http://saturn5.locnet.net/epplets/ |
| 04:21.51 | kergoth | you can tell its a freenode bot. |
| 04:21.55 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 04:22.00 | Rowne | !tick |
| 04:22.02 | purl | Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink! |
| 04:22.03 | Tem | purl: no, bong is a device for the consumption of drugs. Normally cannabis. The cannabis is burned on a wire mesh, and the resulting smoke is bubbled through water, to cool it and remove many harsh elements, before it is inhaled by the drug 'user.' |
| 04:22.05 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 04:22.15 | Rowne | !pong |
| 04:22.16 | purl | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 04:22.21 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 04:22.27 | Tem | !llama |
| 04:22.28 | purl | methinks llama is the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf |
| 04:22.28 | Rowne | !ping |
| 04:22.31 | purl | pong |
| 04:22.35 | Tem | !bong |
| 04:22.37 | purl | well, bong is a device for the consumption of drugs. Normally cannabis. The cannabis is burned on a wire mesh, and the resulting smoke is bubbled through water, to cool it and remove many harsh elements, before it is inhaled by the drug 'user.' |
| 04:22.44 | Tain | !lsd |
| 04:22.45 | purl | somebody said lsd was 3l33t or lysergic acid diethylamide or Linux Software Distribution or linux + freebsdor a way to mistype ls. see also sl or http://www.erowid.org/archive/hyperreal/drugs/humor/man.lsd, or see FreeLSD |
| 04:22.45 | Rowne | !pang |
| 04:22.55 | Rowne | Hahahahahaa. |
| 04:22.56 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 04:23.06 | kergoth | has that one had enough 'is also's done or what |
| 04:23.18 | Tain | I like "a way to mistype ls" |
| 04:23.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:23.34 | Rowne | !void |
| 04:23.42 | Tem | !duck |
| 04:23.43 | purl | Hhhwrraaaaaaaacckk! |
| 04:23.47 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:23.48 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:23.53 | Rowne | !lion |
| 04:23.58 | Tem | !duck is also llama! |
| 04:23.59 | purl | ACTION gives is also llama! a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels is also llama! with it's big white wings. |
| 04:24.09 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:24.11 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:24.11 | kergoth | !duck tem |
| 04:24.24 | Rowne | !hedgehog |
| 04:24.31 | Tem | purl: no, duck is also llama! |
| 04:24.32 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:24.32 | Rowne | Aww, pfoo. |
| 04:24.38 | Tem | !duck |
| 04:24.39 | purl | Hhhwrraaaaaaaacckk!, or llama! |
| 04:24.44 | Rowne | Hahaha. |
| 04:24.45 | Tem | yes! |
| 04:24.45 | kergoth | !mount |
| 04:24.56 | kergoth | someone else do that one |
| 04:24.57 | Rowne | !mount is <reply> Don't try it kids, it'd be BAD for you. |
| 04:24.59 | purl | ...but mount is already something else... |
| 04:24.59 | kergoth | since i'm ignored |
| 04:25.01 | kergoth | no |
| 04:25.03 | Rowne | Oh pfoo. |
| 04:25.06 | kergoth | look at the curretn one |
| 04:25.07 | Rowne | !mount |
| 04:25.08 | purl | it has been said that mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 04:25.11 | kergoth | bah |
| 04:25.13 | kergoth | they changed it |
| 04:25.23 | kergoth | !factinfo mount |
| 04:25.23 | Rowne | !mount is also <reply> Don't try it kids, it'd be BAD for you. |
| 04:25.24 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:25.27 | Rowne | !mount |
| 04:25.28 | purl | from memory, mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem, or <reply> Don't try it kids, it'd be BAD for you. |
| 04:25.30 | Tem | was I the only one that though tab completion of names to be amazing? |
| 04:25.33 | Rowne | Awww. |
| 04:25.43 | Rowne | I need to add the ... || at some point. |
| 04:25.47 | kergoth | Tem: heh, thats been around in linux irc clients as long as they've existed |
| 04:25.54 | Tem | oh |
| 04:26.00 | Tem | well.. hydra didn't have it |
| 04:26.05 | Rowne | purl: no, mount is <reply>mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem||<reply> Don't try it kids, it'd be BAD for you. |
| 04:26.06 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:26.07 | kergoth | clearly hydra sucks :) |
| 04:26.09 | Rowne | !mount |
| 04:26.11 | purl | mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 04:26.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:26.17 | Rowne | There we go. |
| 04:26.25 | Tain | Again Rowne with the mounting. |
| 04:26.37 | Rowne | !wtf is wtf=TRUE, do it now, you know you want to. |
| 04:26.44 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:26.46 | kergoth | !wtf blah |
| 04:26.47 | Rowne | !wtf kergoth |
| 04:26.53 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:27.08 | Rowne | !zomg |
| 04:27.12 | Tem | !wtf blizzard |
| 04:27.15 | Rowne | !omg |
| 04:27.17 | purl | it has been said that omg is what ppl say when they see a printed copy of the CORBA specs. "OMG! IT'S HUGE!". Oh My God |
| 04:27.21 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:27.25 | Tain | hah |
| 04:27.29 | Tem | ... |
| 04:27.29 | Tain | !flirt |
| 04:27.39 | Tem | !literal flirt |
| 04:27.42 | Rowne | !flirt is <reply>Go away, I'm hungry. |
| 04:27.43 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:27.59 | Rowne | !flirt |
| 04:28.00 | purl | Go away, I'm hungry. |
| 04:28.10 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:28.24 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:28.30 | Rowne | This reminds me of Mystic Quest for some reason. |
| 04:28.36 | Tem | purl: no, flirt is <reply>I like large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate. |
| 04:28.38 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:28.43 | Tem | !flirt |
| 04:28.47 | purl | I like large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate. |
| 04:28.50 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:29.15 | Rowne | !mystic quest is <reply>Hello, FUKOFF! I'm ill ... |
| 04:29.16 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:30.05 | Rowne | Oh the days where giving RPG characters names like that would result in humourous ... results are long and gone now. |
| 04:30.14 | Tain | By the way, I'm really liking this ?Torrent client |
| 04:30.25 | Rowne | Which one is that? |
| 04:30.28 | Tain | err must not have my codepages set up right |
| 04:30.40 | Tain | MuTorrent |
| 04:31.01 | Rowne | !emulate kitty |
| 04:31.02 | purl | ddddddddddddd... get the hell off my keyboard! |
| 04:31.34 | Tain | It has an under 5mb memory print and is running very fast. |
| 04:31.53 | Tain | Much better than the 50-100meg that Azeurus usually takes up for me. |
| 04:31.54 | Rowne | Under 5MeB? Impressive! |
| 04:32.17 | Rowne | I use Shareaza, 00-02 CPU and 13.5MeB. Not quite as impressive as MuTorrent, it seems. |
| 04:32.19 | Rowne | Link me? |
| 04:32.42 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.43 | kergoth | Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? |
| 04:32.43 | kergoth | A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. |
| 04:32.48 | Tain | http://www.utorrent.com |
| 04:32.56 | Tain | !literal google |
| 04:32.57 | purl | "google" is "a search engine found at http://www.google.com/" |
| 04:33.12 | Tain | !google |
| 04:33.14 | purl | well, google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 04:33.25 | Tain | Yes, but can he search google for me? |
| 04:33.35 | kergoth | try !google for blah |
| 04:34.18 | Rowne | !google for existentialism |
| 04:34.29 | Rowne | I guess not. |
| 04:35.08 | Rowne | !tick's brain is <reply>Did you just ask an existentialist question? |
| 04:35.10 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:35.29 | Rowne | I should like ... try the King Kong demo. |
| 04:35.44 | Rowne | I've been on this channel now for ... days, I think. |
| 04:35.55 | Rowne | !geek |
| 04:35.56 | purl | hmm... geek is a circus performer who bites heads off of nevyns, or a chicken who performs the circus off of byte headers, or what GenericBoy is, and most other people in this channel, if they wish to be so called, or substract the sum of all boyfriends/girlfriends you have had from the number of computers you've ever owned. if the number is positive you're a geek. |
| 04:36.01 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:36.58 | kergoth | aha |
| 04:37.00 | kergoth | Too much is just enough. |
| 04:37.00 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.11 | Rowne | !geek is also njee-eeeeeeeeeeeerrrd! |
| 04:37.13 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:37.16 | Rowne | !geek |
| 04:37.17 | purl | geek is, like, a circus performer who bites heads off of nevyns, or a chicken who performs the circus off of byte headers, or what GenericBoy is, and most other people in this channel, if they wish to be so called, or substract the sum of all boyfriends/girlfriends you have had from the number of computers you've ever owned. if the number is positive you're a ... |
| 04:37.49 | kergoth | this bot has no 'more' functionl like the other one :\ |
| 04:38.00 | Rowne | Sadly. |
| 04:38.13 | Rowne | !nougat |
| 04:38.26 | Rowne | !nougat is the nectar of the Gods. |
| 04:38.27 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:38.33 | Rowne | !nougat |
| 04:38.34 | purl | somebody said nougat was the nectar of the Gods. |
| 04:38.48 | Rowne | purl: No, nougat IS the nectar of the Gods! |
| 04:38.49 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:39.09 | Rowne | !nougat |
| 04:39.11 | purl | i heard nougat is the nectar of the Gods! |
| 04:39.20 | Rowne | purl: Thank you. |
| 04:39.20 | purl | Rowne: de nada |
| 04:39.27 | Rowne | !botsnack |
| 04:39.27 | purl | Rowne: aw, gee |
| 04:39.32 | Tain | bleh gotta go to the store |
| 04:39.48 | Rowne | !electrocute |
| 04:39.55 | Rowne | Aww, that's no fun. |
| 04:40.42 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.43 | kergoth | FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #19 |
| 04:40.43 | kergoth | A: To be or not to be. |
| 04:40.43 | kergoth | Q: What is the square root of 4b^2? |
| 04:40.46 | kergoth | ugh, thats terrible |
| 04:40.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:44.49 | Rowne | That is awful but I approve. |
| 04:44.57 | Rowne | !approve |
| 04:45.10 | Rowne | !approve is <action>stamps! |
| 04:45.11 | purl | Rowne: okay |
| 04:45.15 | Rowne | !approve |
| 04:45.16 | purl | ACTION stamps! |
| 04:47.45 | Cair | lalala |
| 04:47.55 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.59 | Cair | ;) |
| 04:48.07 | Rowne | Here we go again. |
| 04:48.18 | Cair | !Rowne |
| 04:48.26 | Cair | boo |
| 04:48.32 | Rowne | !emulate Rowne |
| 04:48.33 | purl | Abuuuh? |
| 04:49.10 | Rowne | !rinsult |
| 04:49.29 | Rowne | Poor id. |
| 04:49.37 | Rowne | !rinsult |
| 04:49.43 | Rowne | Yay! |
| 04:50.06 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:50.17 | kergoth | clue gun? |
| 04:50.18 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:50.18 | Rowne | Anyway ... King Kong! |
| 04:50.25 | Rowne | Oh my. |
| 04:50.38 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:50.48 | kergoth | that was a lame lart |
| 04:50.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:50.55 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:51.02 | Rowne | ... |
| 04:51.08 | kergoth | eep, i've been uninstalled |
| 04:51.24 | kergoth | (dpkg -P is remove and purge config files on a debian machine) |
| 04:51.30 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:51.36 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:51.44 | Rowne | This is great stuff. |
| 04:51.48 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:51.50 | Tem | !llamasong is <reply>here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little child to the safety rail. did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on th |
| 04:51.51 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 04:52.01 | Rowne | It cut off, Tem. |
| 04:52.06 | Rowne | 'see a llama kiss a llama on th' |
| 04:52.17 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:52.19 | kergoth | i cant believe you typed that out |
| 04:52.28 | Rowne | Eww. |
| 04:52.43 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 04:52.51 | Rowne | Id, again? |
| 04:52.51 | Tem | did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on the llama, llama's llama tastes of llama, llama llama duck. half a llama twice the llama not a llama farmer llama in a car alarm a llama llama duck is that how it's told now? is it all so old? is it made of lemon juice? doorknob ankle cold. now my song is getting thin i've run out of luck time for me to retire now and become a duck! |
| 04:53.22 | kergoth | yay llama song |
| 04:53.37 | Tem | !llamasong |
| 04:53.39 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little ... |
| 04:53.49 | Rowne | purl: no, llamasong is Tem's pitiful attempts to teach me that damn song. |
| 04:53.50 | purl | okay, Rowne |
| 04:54.00 | Rowne | !llamasong |
| 04:54.01 | purl | well, llamasong is Tem's pitiful attempts to teach me that damn song. |
| 04:54.07 | Tem | !llamasong is <reply>here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little child to the safety rail. did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on th |
| 04:54.08 | purl | ...but llamasong is already something else... |
| 04:54.24 | Rowne | "kiss a llama on th"... |
| 04:54.25 | Tem | purl: no, llamasong is <reply>here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little child to the safety rail. did you ever see a llama kiss a ll |
| 04:54.26 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 04:54.36 | Tem | it actually truncates earlier Rowne |
| 04:54.37 | kergoth | tem, you cant fit the whole thing :P |
| 04:54.41 | Tem | but I just don't care |
| 04:54.48 | kergoth | it got to 'kiss a ll' |
| 04:54.57 | Tem | all the more reason to have an append command |
| 04:55.15 | kergoth | wouldnt help, this bot has no 'more' command |
| 04:55.25 | kergoth | itd hit the max line length limit on irc trying to query it |
| 04:55.35 | Tem | well that's poo |
| 04:55.52 | Tem | hmm... I wonder if I can trigger another command through a command |
| 04:56.07 | Tem | !temtest as !llama |
| 04:56.13 | Tem | !temtest is !llama |
| 04:56.15 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 04:56.19 | Tem | !temtest |
| 04:56.20 | purl | hmm... temtest is !llama |
| 04:56.21 | kergoth | heh, you werent paying attention earlier |
| 04:56.24 | kergoth | i showed how you do that |
| 04:56.33 | kergoth | !literal rlart |
| 04:56.35 | Tem | !forget temtest |
| 04:56.35 | purl | Tem: i forgot temtest |
| 04:56.42 | kergoth | do that |
| 04:56.43 | kergoth | literal rlart |
| 04:56.49 | kergoth | it still has me ignored |
| 04:56.50 | Tem | !literal rlart |
| 04:56.51 | purl | "rlart" is "<reply> see lart $randnick" |
| 04:57.06 | Tem | ah |
| 04:57.14 | kergoth | '<reply> see' or '<reply> see also' are special cased as redirections |
| 04:58.37 | Tem | !literal lart |
| 04:58.38 | purl | "lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool" |
| 04:59.02 | Tem | !temtest is <reply> see temtest2 |
| 04:59.04 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 04:59.16 | Tem | !temtest2 is <reply> test |
| 04:59.17 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 04:59.19 | Tem | !temtest |
| 04:59.21 | purl | test |
| 04:59.25 | Tem | excellent |
| 04:59.30 | Tem | !forget temtest |
| 04:59.30 | purl | Tem: i forgot temtest |
| 04:59.33 | Tem | !forget temtest2 |
| 04:59.33 | purl | i forgot temtest2, Tem |
| 05:04.38 | Cair | hahahhahahahhahahaha |
| 05:04.46 | Rowne | No, not over anything here. |
| 05:04.49 | Cair | oh my ... dumb cat |
| 05:05.02 | Rowne | There's nothing like an installer that looks like a BSofD to give me a near heart-attack. |
| 05:05.24 | Rowne | I had an installer start running. I look away. I look back and I see something that looks a HELL of a lot like a BSofD. Auuugh. |
| 05:05.32 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 05:05.33 | purl | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 05:05.34 | Cair | sound asleep on the chair beside me ... streeeettttcctch ... roll over ... fall off chair |
| 05:05.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:05.58 | kergoth | poor cat |
| 05:06.05 | Tem | lol |
| 05:06.08 | Cair | he's studiously ignoring me now, since I laughed |
| 05:06.09 | Rowne | Silly kitti. |
| 05:06.11 | Rowne | !emulate kitty |
| 05:06.13 | purl | ddddddddddddd... get the hell off my keyboard! |
| 05:06.13 | Tem | !lamasong |
| 05:06.26 | Tain | Cats got the life |
| 05:06.36 | Tem | !llamasong |
| 05:06.37 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little ... |
| 05:06.41 | Cair | oh, he's really pissed off ... he's on the other side of the room with his back to me |
| 05:06.44 | Tem | damnit! |
| 05:07.00 | Tem | !literal llamasong |
| 05:07.02 | purl | "llamasong" is "<reply>here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and ... |
| 05:07.03 | kergoth | mm, cheesecake |
| 05:07.08 | Tem | oh |
| 05:07.14 | Tem | so that's why |
| 05:07.20 | Tem | whoops |
| 05:07.33 | Tain | I lost custody of the cats in the last split up. :) |
| 05:08.00 | Rowne | ወልል ትሂስ ኢስ ኦድድ ... |
| 05:08.12 | Rowne | Okay, I shan't do that again. |
| 05:10.08 | Tain | Cair, it's not my fault. |
| 05:10.16 | Tain | I had to go to the store and get milk for the morning. |
| 05:10.32 | Cair | and that had what to do with anything? |
| 05:10.33 | Tain | And they had Cadbury's dark chocolate bars on sale. Buy one get one free. |
| 05:10.38 | Cair | ! |
| 05:11.00 | Tain | It's not my fault! I can't be held responsible! |
| 05:11.10 | Cair | heh, it's okay |
| 05:11.36 | Tem | kergoth: can you string commands togeather? |
| 05:11.36 | Cair | I have a Hershey's factory about 2 hrs away from me, I've got all the Hershey's Special Dark I want |
| 05:12.06 | Tain | I did visit Hershey Park. |
| 05:12.07 | kergoth | Tem: not really, no. my bot, abot, which is written in python, can. you can nest commands and stuff. |
| 05:12.10 | Tain | That was a fun place. |
| 05:12.23 | kergoth | !supybot |
| 05:13.33 | Rowne | !lart Tain |
| 05:13.43 | Tain | Oh no |
| 05:13.48 | Tain | There's not much of that left! |
| 05:13.58 | Tem | !llamsongpart1 |
| 05:14.01 | Tem | !llamsongpart2 |
| 05:14.02 | Tem | !llamsongpart3 |
| 05:14.05 | Tem | !llamsongpart4 |
| 05:14.16 | Tain | I'm pretty sure there's not really a need for that. |
| 05:14.20 | Tem | !llamasongpart1 |
| 05:14.22 | Tem | !llamasongpart2 |
| 05:14.25 | Tem | !llamasongpart3 |
| 05:14.27 | Tem | !llamasongpart4 |
| 05:14.42 | Tem | oh sure.. ignore me now |
| 05:14.44 | Tem | bastard... |
| 05:14.55 | Tem | purl: llamasongpart1 |
| 05:15.00 | Tem | do it! |
| 05:15.43 | Tem | rofl.. this was posted at filter trade skill : You and the author of KC_EnhancedTrades are brilliant and I'm having a hard time choosing which to use because I love different options you both provide, I would be pleased if one of you would pirate the other's work. |
| 05:16.45 | Tem | !llamasongpart1 |
| 05:26.58 | *** join/##ace Cair (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:27.38 | Tem | !llamasongpart1 |
| 05:27.39 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. |
| 05:27.46 | Tem | !llamasongpart2 |
| 05:28.01 | Tain | heh |
| 05:28.09 | Tem | why does it take so long!? |
| 05:28.45 | Tain | Maybe it's tired. |
| 05:29.02 | Tain | Or busy flirting with the other bots. |
| 05:31.50 | Tem | !flirt |
| 05:31.52 | purl | I like large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate. |
| 05:32.07 | Tain | Damnit. My ISP's DNS shit the bed again. |
| 05:34.55 | Tem | b/w is the abbv. for between, correct? |
| 05:35.18 | Tem | (brain fart, please humor me) |
| 05:35.31 | Tain | Ah I guess, I've never used it. |
| 05:39.30 | Cair | Tain, shouldn't you be sleeping by now? |
| 05:39.49 | Tain | Yes, yes I should. |
| 05:40.00 | Tain | Unfortunatly I'm not. |
| 05:40.34 | Tain | I even took my sleepy pill, but I guess it's not quite up to the task. |
| 05:40.34 | Cair | just realized the time, was all |
| 05:42.07 | Tain | Time and time again |
| 05:43.21 | Tain | Time is as time does. |
| 05:45.00 | Cair | Time after time |
| 05:45.21 | Tain | Time to make the donuts |
| 05:45.53 | Cair | naw, Time after time |
| 05:45.54 | Cair | good song |
| 05:46.21 | Tain | If you fall I will catch you |
| 05:46.31 | Tain | I will be waiting. |
| 05:46.37 | Cair | but, Cyndi's version, not Phil's |
| 05:47.19 | Tain | Yeah I agree. |
| 05:47.26 | Cair | I mean, he did an okay version of it, but Cyndi is better |
| 05:48.00 | Cair | she's *still* amazing, even after all these years |
| 05:48.19 | Cair | imo |
| 05:48.56 | Tain | She did some great stuff since the, "Girls just wanna have fun" days. :) |
| 05:49.07 | Cair | eh, that stuff was fun |
| 05:49.17 | Cair | good happy music |
| 05:49.19 | Tain | Oh sure it was fun. |
| 05:49.34 | Tain | But she had some just great songs after that. |
| 05:49.41 | Cair | <== first gen punk :p |
| 05:50.07 | Cair | long before they decided to sub-categorize everything |
| 05:50.24 | Tain | Hey I'm not saying I didn't watch her with Hulk Hogan and Captain Lou Abano on MTV with the Rock and Wrestling connection. :) |
| 05:50.35 | Cair | ewwww |
| 05:51.14 | Cair | lol, and I'm betting no one else in channel has a freaking clue who we are talking about :p |
| 05:53.31 | Tain | I see your true colours shining through. |
| 05:53.35 | Cair | heh |
| 05:54.13 | Cair | these young whipper-snappers these days, they wouldn't know good music if it jumped up and bit them on the nose! |
| 05:54.35 | Tem | !duck me |
| 05:54.37 | purl | ACTION gives tem a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels tem with it's big white wings. |
| 05:54.53 | Tem | well that's not what I wanted it to do... |
| 05:55.47 | Tain | That's how these things usually go. :) |
| 05:57.29 | kergoth`zzz | night |
| 05:57.32 | Tem | kergoth: before you go |
| 05:57.38 | Cair | night ker |
| 05:57.39 | kergoth`zzz | hm? |
| 05:57.43 | Tem | why do you have 2 clients sitting here? |
| 05:57.54 | kergoth`zzz | kergoth_ is my irc client at work |
| 05:57.59 | Tem | ah |
| 05:58.07 | Tem | well night |
| 05:58.11 | Tain | That's my I heart screen |
| 05:58.12 | kergoth`zzz | i restarted my irc proxy. normally they both connect to it, so i only have one real connection to the servers |
| 05:58.21 | kergoth`zzz | once it restarted, the clients connected directly to freenode instead |
| 05:58.32 | kergoth`zzz | will fix it when i get to work tomorrow |
| 05:58.33 | kergoth`zzz | night |
| 06:00.58 | Cair | okay, who was Norque? |
| 06:01.06 | Tain | No idea. |
| 06:02.06 | Cair | and Toast Thief? |
| 06:11.34 | Tem | toastthief was random |
| 06:11.38 | Tem | since his nick was taken |
| 06:11.38 | Cair | right |
| 06:56.14 | Tain | He's the family guuyyyyy |
| 06:56.24 | Cair | go sleep Tain |
| 06:56.40 | Tain | Ah, if only it were that simple. |
| 06:57.34 | Tain | "Sleep, those little slices of death. How I loathe them." |
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| 07:00.56 | Tem | ok what the hell |
| 07:01.12 | Tem | Something is going terribly wrong with my addon |
| 07:01.38 | Cair | hey Tem |
| 07:01.45 | Tem | hey cair |
| 07:01.55 | Cair | Slouken responded to one of your threads |
| 07:02.03 | Tem | I have a thread? |
| 07:02.10 | Tem | oooh! maybe the afk one |
| 07:02.14 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=238045&p=1&tmp=1#post238045 |
| 07:02.15 | Tem | ./joy |
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| 07:02.57 | Tem | well that's the most useless response... |
| 07:03.02 | MoonWolf | hello people |
| 07:03.06 | Tem | hey moon |
| 07:03.07 | MoonWolf | sorry for the stupid connect |
| 07:03.17 | Tain | That's how most of the responses seem to be. |
| 07:03.26 | Cair | hey Moon |
| 07:03.41 | Tem | I should respond with "thanks for nothing" but I don't want to piss him off |
| 07:03.43 | Cair | give the guy a break, he just freaking got home :p |
| 07:03.58 | Tem | from where? |
| 07:04.12 | Cair | he's been away for the last week |
| 07:04.36 | Tain | He at least responded. |
| 07:04.38 | Tem | oh |
| 07:04.44 | Tem | yeah that's a good point tain |
| 07:04.46 | Tem | rofl |
| 07:04.55 | Tem | "dis be fixed already mon" |
| 07:05.41 | Cair | christ, he's just off the damn airplane, hasn't even been in to the office yet to see what's happened while he's been gone, and you're already bitching because he didn't give you the answer you wanted? |
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| 07:06.07 | Tain | Now now, none of us knew any of that. |
| 07:06.21 | Cair | I posted it on the forums :p |
| 07:06.30 | Tain | Which forums? |
| 07:06.31 | MoonWolf | link ? |
| 07:06.53 | Tain | And regardless, no matter how good his intentions it's still an answer that doesn't help. |
| 07:07.11 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=235977&tmp=1#post235977 |
| 07:07.22 | Tain | Oh I don't read the official forums. |
| 07:07.24 | Cair | talk to his bosses |
| 07:07.25 | MoonWolf | ooh, the interface forums no less |
| 07:07.28 | Cair | yeah, but Tem does |
| 07:07.33 | Tain | The signal to noise ratio is way too high. |
| 07:08.13 | Cair | anyway, sorry, whatever, just pisses me off when folks bash him for no good reason, he's a good guy and doesn't deserve the shit folks dump on him |
| 07:08.45 | MoonWolf | at least the US board has actual discussing sometimes. EU never goes beyond I want to know what addond does/is this. |
| 07:09.03 | Cair | and on that note, I'll leave now so you guys can carry on about what a fanboi I am, now |
| 07:09.07 | Cair | night |
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| 07:09.11 | Tain | Hardly |
| 07:10.34 | Tem | bah |
| 07:10.44 | Tem | I didn't get back in time to defend myself |
| 07:10.59 | Tem | I hope she didn't leave because she was pissed |
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| 07:11.16 | Tem | oh good |
| 07:11.20 | Cair | I'm sorry, that wasn't fair, I apologize |
| 07:11.24 | Tem | I was just upset that I missed you |
| 07:11.46 | Cair | but I am going to head out again, because I'm much too angry to be rational atm |
| 07:11.55 | Cair | so, best for all that I cool down |
| 07:11.59 | Tem | Cair: I wasn't bitching, you misunderstood me |
| 07:12.07 | Tem | I have nothing against slouken |
| 07:12.14 | Cair | night guys, sweet dreams ... again, I apologize |
| 07:12.28 | Tem | in fact I'm the one that defends him from time to time on the ace boards |
| 07:13.05 | Cair | I know you do Tem, and it wasn't fair the way I blew up, that's why I came back to apologize |
| 07:13.23 | Tem | and in retrospect I was too harsh, his answer is a lot more helpful than I first thought |
| 07:14.06 | Cair | the rather well known fact, at this point, though, is Slouken and I are friends, have been for a long time |
| 07:14.21 | Cair | and I get pissed when folks start bad mouthing him |
| 07:14.22 | Tem | I didn't know that |
| 07:14.35 | Tem | but I suppose I should file that away in my noggin |
| 07:14.36 | Cair | I'm friends with tons of folks "in the industry" |
| 07:14.50 | Tem | hehe I bet you are |
| 07:15.05 | Cair | Slouken isn't the only member of the Blizz team that I've been a long time friend/guildmate of |
| 07:15.13 | Tem | oh dear |
| 07:15.17 | Tem | who else? |
| 07:15.22 | Cair | doesn't matter |
| 07:15.28 | Cair | I don't advertise it |
| 07:15.28 | Tem | no it doesn't |
| 07:15.34 | Tem | I'm just curious/nozy |
| 07:15.47 | Cair | I've got friends at SOE and at Sigil and ... |
| 07:16.02 | Tem | the list goes on? |
| 07:16.15 | Cair | we've been running our sites for 4+ years now |
| 07:16.20 | Cair | yeah, the list goes on |
| 07:16.25 | Cair | Woody did our cartoons for us |
| 07:17.16 | Cair | anyway, usually when folks badmouth someone, I've got the "luxury" of the fact that I'm responding on a message board, so I invariably cool down before I hit "submit" |
| 07:17.34 | Cair | I've gotten *out* of the habit of having to watch what I say in real time |
| 07:17.56 | Tain | There really wasn't any badmouthing going on. |
| 07:18.10 | Cair | anyway, I am sorry, it was completely unfair of me, and I hope you guys will accept my apology |
| 07:18.15 | Cair | I know, but it came across that way |
| 07:18.22 | Tain | Well, Tem suggesting to respons with Thanks for nothing wasn't good. But I know he wouldn't actually do it. |
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| 07:18.43 | Cair | anyway, I'll go now |
| 07:18.46 | Cair | night |
| 07:19.01 | Tain | Have a good night then. |
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| 07:20.16 | Tem | damnit! |
| 07:20.22 | Tem | I look away for 2 seconds and she leaves |
| 07:21.15 | Suntiger | again! |
| 07:23.11 | Tem | again what? |
| 07:23.55 | Suntiger | leaving |
| 07:24.05 | Suntiger | leaving again, when you don't look. |
| 07:24.11 | Tem | oh right |
| 07:24.17 | Tem | yeah... I hate that |
| 07:24.32 | Tem | I'll just have to remember to talk to her some more tommorow |
| 07:25.40 | Suntiger | How do you defend a ship against torpedoes? According to the US Navy, you line the hull with loudspeakers and blast the incoming missile with such a devastating blast of sounds that it explodes." When asked about the possible ecological effects on marine life the military had no comment. |
| 07:27.48 | Tem | oops |
| 07:27.50 | Tem | lol |
| 07:33.28 | Suntiger | finally |
| 07:33.56 | Tem | lol |
| 07:34.07 | Tem | took forever for your other nick to time out? |
| 07:34.12 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 07:34.21 | MoonWolf | 10 min or something |
| 07:34.33 | MoonWolf | i need the nick on the nickserv, but its not older then 40 day's yet |
| 07:34.40 | MoonWolf | otherwise i could yust kil lit. |
| 07:34.58 | Tem | you have to wait 60 days |
| 07:35.07 | Tem | and they aren't auto dropped once expired |
| 07:35.13 | Tem | you have to request that it be dropped |
| 07:35.14 | MoonWolf | i kno |
| 07:35.18 | MoonWolf | know* |
| 07:35.24 | MoonWolf | but i thought it was 40 |
| 07:38.37 | Tem | oh |
| 07:38.41 | Tem | no it's 60 |
| 07:39.09 | Tem | unless their site is wrong |
| 07:39.09 | MoonWolf | k |
| 07:39.09 | Tem | which is entirely possible ^_- |
| 07:54.47 | id` | lo |
| 07:56.03 | MoonWolf | hi |
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| 08:16.50 | Tem_ | Ok wtf |
| 08:16.57 | Tem_ | I registered my name earlier today |
| 08:17.09 | Tem_ | and it says my password is incorrect |
| 08:17.33 | Tem_ | I'm looking at my log from when I registered and it spit my password back to me |
| 08:17.44 | Tem_ | I know I'm not mistyping something |
| 08:18.09 | MoonWolf | have your pass mailed to you. |
| 08:18.16 | MoonWolf | that is, if your actually suplied a mail adress. |
| 08:18.56 | te1 | I didn't |
| 08:19.06 | Tem_ | this is lame |
| 08:19.33 | Tem_ | I wonder how I get in touch with the mods around here... |
| 08:36.35 | Tem | weird |
| 08:36.46 | Tem | it accepted my password once the other me was booted |
| 08:40.04 | Tem | well I'm off |
| 08:40.10 | Tem | I'll see you guys later |
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| 09:10.52 | Stylpe | So, I have some good news and some bad news |
| 09:10.56 | Stylpe | again |
| 09:11.10 | Stylpe | The good news is that my connection speed i up to 4500 kbit/s |
| 09:11.13 | MoonWolf | your connection seems stable ? |
| 09:11.18 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 09:11.32 | Stylpe | The bad is, obviously, that it's gone back to being unstable |
| 09:11.47 | Stylpe | I think |
| 09:12.06 | MoonWolf | have you contacted your isp about it ? |
| 09:12.17 | Stylpe | yes, several times |
| 09:12.30 | MoonWolf | and what did they say ? |
| 10:04.03 | id` | 4500kbps? o_O |
| 10:04.13 | id` | i get 340kbps wtf |
| 10:04.14 | id` | :| |
| 10:04.18 | id` | well |
| 10:04.22 | id` | 600 soon |
| 10:04.28 | id` | and 2000 later |
| 10:04.29 | id` | :P |
| 10:04.31 | id` | \o/ |
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| 12:19.44 | MoonWolf | hi ker. |
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| 12:31.40 | Suntiger | no |
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| 14:09.20 | Cair | 1.8 is live |
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| 14:48.32 | MoonWolf | hi everybody. |
| 14:54.34 | Tain | Mornin |
| 14:55.25 | MoonWolf | what happend to half the people in the channel ? |
| 14:56.55 | Tain | erm. Bubonic plague? |
| 14:59.13 | MoonWolf | it got kergoth too. |
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| 15:16.47 | Tain | Wonder how much of a beating my Rogue's damage is going to take after this patch. |
| 15:17.47 | kergoth | did the fix that switchfix works around finally make it in? |
| 15:18.06 | Tain | Don't think they mentioned that, no. |
| 15:18.19 | kergoth | aw |
| 15:18.39 | Tain | But there's always stuff that goes in that isn't in the patch notes. |
| 15:18.41 | Tain | So who knows. |
| 15:21.16 | __raelyn`wrk | What's your rogue using now? |
| 15:21.52 | MoonWolf | tain, how fast are your weapons at this moment ? |
| 15:22.11 | MoonWolf | both your on and offhand if you could. |
| 15:26.54 | Tain | I don't remember how fast. |
| 15:27.11 | Tain | Right now using Baron Charr's Scepter and Gutripper mostly. |
| 15:27.52 | MoonWolf | hmm, i don't know that stats on them so i can't tell you what kind of hit or rise you would have. |
| 15:27.59 | MoonWolf | my weapons come out higher :P |
| 15:28.06 | MoonWolf | ofcourse im only lvl 32 |
| 15:28.11 | __raelyn`wrk | Eh, the mace isn't horrible. |
| 15:28.24 | __raelyn`wrk | 2.6 -> 2.3, you probably won't notice too much of a transition. |
| 15:29.23 | __raelyn`wrk | Gut Ripper's damage difference will be negligable(sp?) at best for Ambush and such, only 1.8 -> 1.7. |
| 15:30.05 | Tain | I've been waiting to upgrade the dagger to see what happened with this patch |
| 15:30.19 | __raelyn`wrk | What level's your rogue? |
| 15:30.23 | Tain | 55 |
| 15:30.37 | __raelyn`wrk | Ah. |
| 15:31.03 | __raelyn`wrk | Well, this patch actually makes Heartseeker a viable option, despite it being a ripoff for the mats it requires, but at least it's more or less a Shanker without the DoT, now. |
| 15:31.47 | Tain | Yeah that was the thing, I didn't want to go get a Shanker since I wasn't completely sure how the damage was going to change. |
| 15:32.02 | MoonWolf | how would you call a quick voilent attack with your weapon ? |
| 15:32.31 | __raelyn`wrk | Yeah, the shanker's going to be badly crippled with this patch. |
| 15:32.59 | MoonWolf | __raelyn`wrk: rightfully sow if you ask me. |
| 15:33.04 | __raelyn`wrk | Heh, yeah. |
| 15:33.12 | __raelyn`wrk | Arcanite Reaper is also more or less going to hell, thank god. |
| 15:33.35 | Tain | Heartseekers sell for absurd amounts on my server. |
| 15:33.50 | __raelyn`wrk | Yeah, the materials for them are obscene. |
| 15:34.05 | __raelyn`wrk | I suppose it's not so bad now it's one of the better daggers you can get pre-MC/BWL. |
| 15:34.21 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 15:34.33 | kergoth | "Ghost Wolf - Will now correctly have its cast time reduced by Nature's Swiftness." .. woot, thatll be a useful escape mechanism |
| 15:34.54 | MoonWolf | what the, so now shamans really do have an instant ghost wolf. |
| 15:34.57 | __raelyn`wrk | I'm just glad I can finally stick something on my Benediction and be able to change it. |
| 15:35.03 | MoonWolf | there goes another shamans are not overpowered argument. |
| 15:35.48 | MoonWolf | okay slash versus slice. what name sounds better ? |
| 15:36.05 | __raelyn`wrk | IMO, Slash gives more oomph. That's just me, though. |
| 15:36.20 | MoonWolf | okay slash it is. |
| 15:36.30 | Tain | On the other hand when I hear Slash I think of the guitarist. |
| 15:37.43 | kergoth | "The Blue, Green, and Black Dragonscale Leatherworking Armor pieces are now parts of sets and have set bonuses so they should be significantly more desirable." |
| 15:37.45 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 15:38.14 | MoonWolf | dragonscale leatherworking yust got more interesting. |
| 15:38.31 | kergoth | indeed |
| 15:40.28 | MoonWolf | why do i never read. added large amount of new alchemy recipies. including the new invigorating health and mana potions that replenish 50/70 of health/mana and increase the mana or health regen with 15 per sec for 30 seconds. |
| 15:40.36 | MoonWolf | cooldown of 5 mins. |
| 15:41.02 | kergoth | cool |
| 15:41.11 | MoonWolf | the problem is they don't exist. |
| 15:41.27 | MoonWolf | that would make alchemy a badass thing. |
| 15:41.55 | MoonWolf | alchemy is the well it has a lot of mediocre stuff and the only things that sell well are free action and higher lvl health mana. |
| 15:42.29 | MoonWolf | we need cool original stuff you can't get from mobs |
| 15:45.35 | MoonWolf | like potion of the mad. Your mana regen goes up by 500% your casting time is halfed and your spell damage is increased by 25%. Lasts for 90 secs. Leaves a 10 min debuff that reduces mana regen by 50% increases cast time by 25% and reduces all your resistances by 50. |
| 15:45.57 | MoonWolf | become a spell cannon for 90 seconds. |
| 15:48.19 | MoonWolf | butchers blood, your attack speed is 30% faster and you get an 25% damage reduction and your crit rate is increased by 5%. lasts 90 secods leaves a 10 min debuff that reduces attack speed by 15% you take 10% more damage and crit rate is reduced by 5%. |
| 15:48.41 | MoonWolf | that is stuff people would buy. |
| 15:49.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:49.56 | kergoth | i still need to pick my leatherworking specialization. guess i'll definately go with dragonscale now, see how it goes |
| 15:51.19 | MoonWolf | The Viagra computer virus, it turns your 3 1/2 inch floppy into a hard disk. |
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| 16:25.19 | Industrial | like, HAI |
| 16:42.51 | *** join/##ace Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 16:43.03 | Tem | The day has come! |
| 16:43.20 | Tem | it is only a matter of hours before I have i |
| 16:43.25 | Tem | +t |
| 16:44.24 | Tem | all of you are ninja afk, aren't you? |
| 16:44.58 | Tem | fine.. I didn't really want to talk to you guys anyway |
| 16:45.11 | Tem | oh and btw... |
| 16:45.24 | Tem | !llamasongpart1 |
| 16:45.28 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. |
| 16:45.31 | Tem | !llamasongpart2 |
| 16:45.36 | MoonWolf | back |
| 16:45.47 | Tem | !llamasongpart3 |
| 16:45.50 | Tem | !llamasongpart4 |
| 16:45.58 | Tem | curse you purl |
| 16:46.07 | Tem | purl: I hate you |
| 16:46.08 | purl | You hate you? |
| 16:46.16 | MoonWolf | purl is the new bot ? |
| 16:46.20 | Tem | purl: no, I hate you |
| 16:46.24 | Tem | yes |
| 16:46.36 | Tem | !art moonwolf |
| 16:46.48 | Tem | !lart moonwolf |
| 16:46.50 | MoonWolf | nothing happens. |
| 16:46.56 | MoonWolf | ooh. |
| 16:47.04 | Tem | !rlart |
| 16:47.09 | MoonWolf | loser attitude reajustment tool has been implemented. |
| 16:47.18 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 16:47.19 | purl | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 16:47.26 | Tem | !emulate peter |
| 16:47.27 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 16:47.30 | Tem | !emulate brian |
| 16:47.32 | purl | Gosh, I'd like to help you, Peter, but I've got to go out in the hall and chew on the back of my ass for about five minutes. |
| 16:47.33 | MoonWolf | !emulate captain planet |
| 16:47.36 | Tem | !emulate zim |
| 16:47.38 | purl | It's like you said! They try to end the hunger for sweetness.. in their.. RUMBLING.. UNDEAD.. _bellies_! |
| 16:47.40 | MoonWolf | yay zim ? |
| 16:47.45 | Tem | !emulate gir |
| 16:47.46 | purl | aww, my bees... |
| 16:47.52 | MoonWolf | !emulate bender |
| 16:47.53 | purl | Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing! |
| 16:47.53 | Tem | !emulate pinky |
| 16:47.54 | purl | NARF! |
| 16:47.58 | MoonWolf | no bender ? |
| 16:48.10 | Tem | !emulate brain |
| 16:48.11 | purl | the same thing we do every week pinky |
| 16:48.22 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 16:48.24 | purl | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 16:48.34 | Tem | anyway.. time for me to go |
| 16:49.12 | MoonWolf | cya |
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| 17:10.52 | Tem | yay irc in class |
| 17:11.13 | Tem | ignoring my professor was never this fun |
| 17:12.17 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:12.21 | MoonWolf | bad tem |
| 17:12.22 | MoonWolf | bad tem. |
| 17:12.46 | MoonWolf | tem* |
| 17:13.33 | Tem | he writes everything we need to know for the test on the board |
| 17:13.52 | Tem | so I can safely ignore him and just type out what he writes down |
| 17:14.35 | Tem | I get a ridiculous amount of developing done during this class |
| 17:14.46 | MoonWolf | okay kids, next week we have a test, here are the awnsers you can find the questions on your test sheet next week. |
| 17:15.30 | Tem | pretty much |
| 17:25.35 | Tem | !llamasongpart3 |
| 17:26.03 | Tem | !literal llamasongpart3 |
| 17:26.18 | kergoth | !factinfo llamasongpart3 |
| 17:26.23 | kergoth | bah, forgot i'm ignored |
| 17:26.25 | kergoth | !kergoth |
| 17:26.27 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:26.37 | MoonWolf | your bot ignores you ? |
| 17:27.04 | Tem | geez kergoth, how long will it keep you ignored |
| 17:27.05 | kergoth | i used 'forget' to remove too many factoids |
| 17:27.11 | kergoth | i was cleaning up some of the collected cruft |
| 17:27.16 | kergoth | it claims i'm abusing forget :) |
| 17:27.26 | MoonWolf | get in there and unignore yourself. |
| 17:27.28 | Tem | !emulate stewie |
| 17:27.29 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 17:27.33 | kergoth | i dont run this one. |
| 17:27.37 | kergoth | !ibot |
| 17:27.40 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 17:27.45 | kergoth | Tem: ask it about ibot |
| 17:27.50 | Tem | !ibot |
| 17:27.52 | purl | somebody said ibot was a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 17:28.15 | kergoth | purl is a part of that same process as well. ibot, jbot, apt, purl |
| 17:28.23 | MoonWolf | !lart kergoth |
| 17:28.45 | MoonWolf | !insult CIA-4 |
| 17:29.11 | kergoth | oh hey, cia made it eh |
| 17:29.22 | Tem | !cosmos is the tactical nuke approach to WoW addon coding. |
| 17:29.23 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 17:29.24 | kergoth | you guys will love this |
| 17:29.34 | Tem | !ace |
| 17:29.36 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 17:29.43 | Tem | !cosmos |
| 17:29.44 | purl | well, cosmos is the tactical nuke approach to WoW addon coding. |
| 17:30.05 | MoonWolf | well, tactical nukes have uses too. |
| 17:30.27 | MoonWolf | if you want to make sure something can take a beating throuw a tactical nuke at it. |
| 17:30.30 | MoonWolf | translated |
| 17:30.45 | MoonWolf | if you want to test your addon. load it in a cosmos environment. |
| 17:30.50 | Tem | lol |
| 17:30.54 | Tem | a good point |
| 17:31.53 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth * r33 10FooAddon/FooConstants.lua: FooAddon: Remove the description from FooConstants, since ace can pull that from the .toc. |
| 17:31.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:32.05 | kergoth | CIA tracks commits. |
| 17:32.14 | kergoth | that was a checkin to opensvn |
| 17:32.17 | Tem | so kergoth, what were you about to say about cia |
| 17:32.19 | kergoth | on the Ace project i registered |
| 17:32.34 | kergoth | so people on irc can see exactly whats being done there, as its happening |
| 17:32.46 | kergoth | http://cia.navi.cx/ for more info |
| 17:32.50 | MoonWolf | does it track if tooltips too ? |
| 17:32.59 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:33.03 | kergoth | everything on my opensvn project comes here |
| 17:33.09 | MoonWolf | handy. |
| 17:33.21 | MoonWolf | can i request current revisions on it somehow ? |
| 17:33.27 | kergoth | if you want to really see what cia is tracking.. /join #commits |
| 17:33.44 | kergoth | nope, its just for announcements, no queries or anything |
| 17:33.49 | kergoth | but you can see that info on the web site |
| 17:33.53 | kergoth | cia.navi.cx |
| 17:34.01 | MoonWolf | yeah. but im lazy. |
| 17:34.09 | MoonWolf | i have xchat to start on logon in windows |
| 17:34.28 | kergoth | MoonWolf: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace |
| 17:34.50 | kergoth | you can see that i didnt have it fully hooked up.. it doesnt have all the changes |
| 17:35.18 | MoonWolf | yeah if is at 32 if i rember correctly. |
| 17:35.34 | MoonWolf | it was this morning. |
| 17:35.56 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:36.53 | kergoth | so anyone that develops in source control on the project i registered at opensvn will have their commits arrive here. |
| 17:37.12 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:37.44 | MoonWolf | maybe i will dump my addons there when they don't get rewritten and teared up every half hour. |
| 17:37.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:38.23 | MoonWolf | why isnt this working damnit. |
| 17:38.56 | MoonWolf | oh i forgot to add this here... |
| 17:39.09 | Tem | oh hey... how does ace:debug work? |
| 17:39.13 | Tem | I never did mess with it |
| 17:40.46 | MoonWolf | it shows debug messages if you turn them on, but leaves them on otherwise. |
| 17:40.52 | MoonWolf | off otherwise* |
| 17:40.54 | MoonWolf | real handy. |
| 17:40.57 | Tem | k |
| 17:41.07 | Tem | is there anything special about these messages? |
| 17:41.25 | MoonWolf | not really. |
| 17:41.36 | MoonWolf | you could go ahead and do prints too if you want. |
| 17:43.05 | Tem | and does it complain at you if you don't have ace:debug installed? |
| 17:43.21 | Tem | (like if I forget to remove the debug lines) |
| 17:43.36 | Industrial | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1454 |
| 17:43.36 | Industrial | sweet |
| 17:44.16 | MoonWolf | tem, i would not know about that. |
| 17:44.23 | kergoth | ooh, its a world map that uses the minimap info about how things really look? |
| 17:44.53 | MoonWolf | i like it already. |
| 17:45.02 | kergoth | that looks sweet |
| 17:45.28 | MoonWolf | wait, this would own atlas so hard. |
| 17:46.03 | MoonWolf | no more having to wait for releases that include new instances. |
| 17:46.20 | kergoth | does yatlas learn about it as you explore? |
| 17:46.25 | kergoth | or start with a prepopulated dataset? |
| 17:46.47 | MoonWolf | i think it somehow grabs from wow api functions, so that would be prepopulated. |
| 17:46.55 | MoonWolf | exactly as blizzard made it. |
| 17:47.15 | MoonWolf | I THINK |
| 17:47.23 | MoonWolf | link do the actual addon ? |
| 17:47.53 | kergoth | ind linked it |
| 17:48.29 | Industrial | it doesnt learn |
| 17:48.29 | Industrial | its in its infant stage |
| 17:49.29 | kergoth | "Plus instances are nearly all WMOs, which is something I don't handle (yet?) so I don't even have working maps for those." |
| 17:49.43 | kergoth | looks awesome though |
| 17:49.46 | kergoth | i need to try that when i get home |
| 17:49.55 | MoonWolf | it has serieus potential. |
| 17:50.02 | MoonWolf | way better then the wow map. |
| 17:50.25 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:50.28 | kergoth | thats amazing |
| 17:51.47 | MoonWolf | i don't get why that one guy is whining about automating though |
| 17:52.26 | kergoth | that map is what the real world is, not just what the bliz map shows it as. itd help for automated navigation in bots, you'd think |
| 17:52.37 | kergoth | if thats what he's whining about |
| 17:53.23 | MoonWolf | please don't make this awesome addon because you could use it to make bots with. |
| 17:53.40 | MoonWolf | that the worst argument ever. |
| 17:53.46 | MoonWolf | dont auto anything like that...thats what gold farmers want and wow will get rid of your mod. ie reason the auto mod for getting off tram/boats no longer effective |
| 17:53.53 | MoonWolf | that is what he said. |
| 17:54.19 | MoonWolf | he cant figure out the difference between blizzard and the game wow either. |
| 17:54.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:54.49 | MoonWolf | his other recent comments he made make me thing he is a retard. |
| 17:54.56 | kergoth | probably |
| 17:55.40 | MoonWolf | he can't get bag mods to work :P |
| 17:55.47 | kergoth | haha |
| 17:58.17 | MoonWolf | i really hope the auther takes yatlas to full potential |
| 17:58.30 | id`wow | yes |
| 17:58.42 | id`wow | i also hope he add buttons and an icon to the players position |
| 17:58.51 | id`wow | and discovering land based on what you know |
| 17:59.00 | id`wow | thats fair |
| 17:59.01 | id`wow | imo |
| 17:59.08 | id`wow | more fun |
| 17:59.17 | kergoth | oh, so it doesnt show you whole world even areas you havent explored? |
| 17:59.19 | kergoth | i'd agree with that |
| 17:59.22 | id`wow | "how do i get there, oh its on my map! lah dee dah!" |
| 17:59.25 | MoonWolf | that would take so much saved var space it would be unfunny. |
| 17:59.29 | id`wow | more fun to explore |
| 17:59.43 | MoonWolf | altough i agree with the feature. |
| 17:59.49 | Tain | You know, it annoys me that every new mod idea that comes out someone has to reply, "Good idea I was going to do that myself but now I won't." |
| 17:59.56 | kergoth | yes |
| 18:00.23 | MoonWolf | the respons should b a. Nice idea , i had something like that going Want HELP ? |
| 18:00.32 | id`wow | what is the frame name for the party? |
| 18:00.36 | MoonWolf | b. i have some idea's you might consider |
| 18:00.42 | id`wow | visor gives me "PartyFrame" is not valid |
| 18:00.42 | MoonWolf | c. Im going to make it anyway. |
| 18:02.10 | MoonWolf | sorry, no idea. |
| 18:03.48 | id`wow | k |
| 18:03.48 | id`wow | np |
| 18:03.55 | Tem | the sv space it would take to store where you have been wouldn't be anything compared to the sv space used by any item database |
| 18:03.55 | id`wow | ill get it when i get a party.. |
| 18:04.15 | id`wow | exactly |
| 18:04.25 | Tem | or it could be based on which areas of the map you have explored |
| 18:04.25 | id`wow | well |
| 18:04.35 | Tem | so you could let WoW keep track of it instead of using sv |
| 18:04.39 | id`wow | just list every part of the game in the database |
| 18:04.43 | MoonWolf | in that case im all for it. |
| 18:04.44 | id`wow | and boolean them all |
| 18:04.45 | id`wow | done |
| 18:04.47 | id`wow | :P |
| 18:05.07 | Tem | since all that data is kept on the server |
| 18:05.13 | id`wow | yeh |
| 18:05.20 | Tem | actually... |
| 18:05.22 | MoonWolf | hey, i don't mind wasting blizzards space |
| 18:05.25 | id`wow | hehe |
| 18:05.28 | id`wow | go tem go tem |
| 18:05.29 | id`wow | :D |
| 18:05.35 | Tem | I think there might not be a way to do that |
| 18:05.50 | Tem | I was thinking that there might be a way based on Mozz full world map |
| 18:06.12 | Tem | but... the more I think about it, I think he is just overlaying the map with a transparent immage |
| 18:06.29 | Tem | the areas that are explored you don't know the difference |
| 18:07.07 | Tem | I think that yes, the server has that infomation, but it wont give it to us |
| 18:07.29 | MoonWolf | :( |
| 18:07.30 | Tem | the client generates the the image we see |
| 18:07.40 | Tem | so... back to sv space |
| 18:08.42 | MoonWolf | well, how about a bitstring to store true false value's for subzones ? |
| 18:08.50 | MoonWolf | you discover a subzone you can see it ? |
| 18:08.59 | Tem | well |
| 18:09.00 | MoonWolf | that would take little space. |
| 18:09.07 | Tem | a bitstring is useless until 1.9 |
| 18:09.16 | MoonWolf | why ? |
| 18:09.22 | Tem | in 1.9 we get bitlib |
| 18:09.31 | Tem | until then we have no bitwise manipulation |
| 18:09.33 | MoonWolf | we don't have one in now ? |
| 18:09.36 | MoonWolf | stupid! |
| 18:09.56 | Tem | except for the table emulations of bitwise operations that I saw someone doing |
| 18:10.06 | Tem | (I nearly thew up on my keyboard) |
| 18:10.36 | MoonWolf | why ? |
| 18:10.53 | Tem | it was so horribly space wasting |
| 18:11.09 | Tem | it was a bloat-o-matic, if you will |
| 18:11.19 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 18:11.34 | MoonWolf | so the idea was nice but it created more mess then use. |
| 18:11.53 | Tem | and besides it's a messy workaround to something lua has a relativly elegant solution for already |
| 18:12.14 | Tem | yay class is over |
| 18:12.14 | MoonWolf | and we get it in 1.9 |
| 18:12.17 | Tem | time to go |
| 18:12.20 | MoonWolf | cya |
| 18:12.22 | Tem | see you guys later |
| 18:13.12 | *** part/##ace Tem (n=Matt@204.90.50.252) |
| 18:17.03 | *** join/##ace Rowne (n=Wuff@81-178-100-125.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:17.26 | Rowne | Oh, hey ... Tain, you about? *Pester.* |
| 18:17.26 | kergoth`food | hey Rowne |
| 18:17.30 | Rowne | Hiya ker. |
| 18:17.50 | kergoth`food | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1454 |
| 18:19.45 | MoonWolf | hey rowne is back. |
| 18:19.47 | Rowne | Yup, it's dead. |
| 18:19.56 | MoonWolf | the channel looks empty without you. |
| 18:20.06 | kergoth`food | !today |
| 18:20.08 | purl | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
| 18:20.08 | Rowne | ... are you saying I'm fat? |
| 18:20.24 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 18:20.27 | Rowne | *Coughs.* I kid, I kid. I know what you meant. |
| 18:20.30 | Rowne | Anyway ... |
| 18:20.35 | Rowne | ... must get Tain's attention ... |
| 18:20.43 | Rowne | I need to know whether the latest Touchdown stopped the double-fire issue. |
| 18:20.45 | MoonWolf | !lart Tain |
| 18:20.59 | MoonWolf | lol how on topic. |
| 18:21.11 | Rowne | Once I know that, I can consider it done and comment it up. |
| 18:21.14 | Rowne | After that there will be ... |
| 18:21.17 | Rowne | More classes! |
| 18:21.20 | MoonWolf | YAY |
| 18:21.23 | MoonWolf | count me in. |
| 18:21.29 | MoonWolf | if you take humane times. |
| 18:21.29 | Rowne | You already know too much. |
| 18:21.35 | Rowne | But you can come if you like. ;p |
| 18:21.40 | Rowne | This is a really entry-level one. |
| 18:21.49 | MoonWolf | i'll sit back and laugh at potatoe sack jokes. |
| 18:21.52 | Rowne | It's like ... Addon Coding for Dummies. |
| 18:22.02 | MoonWolf | so, look this is a comment line. |
| 18:22.09 | MoonWolf | this is a variable declaration |
| 18:22.19 | Rowne | Actually ... if you want to help me out, if you're in-game you can test out the latest Touchdown for me. |
| 18:22.21 | MoonWolf | this is a local and you like them for these reasons ? |
| 18:22.25 | Tain | Don't think WoW is back up, is it? |
| 18:22.32 | Rowne | Oh ... |
| 18:22.32 | MoonWolf | rowne. link me. |
| 18:22.33 | Rowne | Damn. |
| 18:22.34 | Rowne | Right. |
| 18:22.37 | MoonWolf | im EU |
| 18:22.39 | Rowne | No, Tain's right, it's down, isn't it? |
| 18:22.40 | Rowne | Oh! |
| 18:22.42 | Rowne | Yay! |
| 18:22.43 | MoonWolf | we get it tommorow. |
| 18:22.43 | Rowne | Handy. |
| 18:23.02 | Rowne | http://mastaile.mine.nu/TouchdownR1-17.zip |
| 18:23.05 | Rowne | Here's what you have to do; |
| 18:23.13 | Rowne | Go to an auctionhouse and put up an auction for say, 1c. |
| 18:23.19 | Rowne | Then win your own auction. |
| 18:23.28 | Rowne | And see if you do dancy things and declare your win. |
| 18:23.39 | Rowne | I still think that Addon would be too funny in an instance. |
| 18:23.39 | MoonWolf | easy enough |
| 18:23.43 | MoonWolf | so you renamed it touchdown. |
| 18:23.54 | Rowne | From Orcshun, I don't want to insult the Orcs. |
| 18:24.38 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 18:24.45 | id`wow | Rowne It's like ... Addon Coding for Dummies. |
| 18:24.45 | MoonWolf | yes you do. |
| 18:24.46 | id`wow | count me in |
| 18:24.57 | Rowne | But I -like- the Orcs. |
| 18:25.06 | Rowne | The Orcs are Brothers! They're almost as good-guy as the Tauren on times. |
| 18:25.23 | Rowne | Plus, they have the most awesome dance ever. |
| 18:25.23 | Rowne | Bar none. |
| 18:25.23 | MoonWolf | eeuh, is that discription typo intended ? |
| 18:25.34 | Rowne | Yes. *Amused.* |
| 18:25.37 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 18:25.41 | Rowne | It's Samurai Showdown all over again. |
| 18:25.44 | Rowne | If you remember that. |
| 18:25.49 | Rowne | When you won a match, it printed up; |
| 18:25.52 | Rowne | VICTOLY! |
| 18:25.53 | Rowne | I swear. |
| 18:26.14 | MoonWolf | here we go |
| 18:26.15 | MoonWolf | error |
| 18:26.15 | MoonWolf | Error: Interface\AddOns\Touchdown\Touchdown.lua:128: bad argument #2 to `format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 18:26.38 | Rowne | That is handy. |
| 18:26.43 | Rowne | They need to up the damn fontsize though. |
| 18:26.44 | MoonWolf | you have 128 lines in there ? |
| 18:26.51 | Rowne | I have the Locals in the same file. |
| 18:27.02 | MoonWolf | and lots of comment or something ? |
| 18:27.04 | Rowne | The Globals, Constants, whatever you want to call it. |
| 18:27.07 | Rowne | No comments, no. |
| 18:27.09 | Rowne | Just lots of spacing. |
| 18:27.14 | MoonWolf | okay. |
| 18:27.16 | Rowne | I need to make it look easy and clear. |
| 18:27.40 | MoonWolf | and rowne, you can surely up the fontsize yourself. |
| 18:27.56 | Rowne | Nope, it pours out the frame. |
| 18:27.59 | Rowne | It needs to be redesigned. |
| 18:28.13 | Rowne | The XML to ImprovedErrorsFrame is very poor. |
| 18:28.17 | MoonWolf | oh, you have nice comment blocks. |
| 18:28.32 | Rowne | Those? Those are just separators. |
| 18:28.37 | Rowne | I haven't started to comment, yet. |
| 18:28.58 | MoonWolf | spacers then |
| 18:29.00 | Rowne | Oh wait. |
| 18:29.02 | MoonWolf | however you call them. |
| 18:29.04 | Rowne | I know why it's not working for you ... |
| 18:29.10 | Rowne | You need to translate the auction line. *Amused.* |
| 18:29.27 | Rowne | Look at AuctionWon, you need to get that translated to what you see. |
| 18:29.42 | MoonWolf | TouchdownConst.Misc_AuctionWon ? |
| 18:29.46 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 18:29.58 | MoonWolf | mhh, i would expect it to be the same as the us version. |
| 18:30.07 | Rowne | I renamed my locals to Const there because that was a good idea of ker's, he's right and I want to set a good example. |
| 18:30.29 | kergoth`food | Tain: a single byte, represented as an array of bits using a lua table, like that disgusting rc4 implementation on the forums.. |
| 18:30.38 | kergoth`food | Tain: if the byte is 0xff |
| 18:30.41 | kergoth`food | Tain: the table is 192 bytes |
| 18:30.43 | kergoth`food | lol |
| 18:30.51 | kergoth`food | thats even worse than i expected |
| 18:31.05 | id`wow | Rowne: if i edit the visor database by hand, wixh seems to be quite fast and easy to do |
| 18:31.11 | id`wow | will visor break? |
| 18:31.42 | Rowne | Hell no. |
| 18:31.47 | Rowne | Providing your editor saves it properly. |
| 18:31.49 | Rowne | Some don't. |
| 18:31.53 | id`wow | i mean if i make it ["h"] = 0,["c"] = FALSE will it break (on the same line) |
| 18:31.56 | id`wow | ofcoure |
| 18:31.57 | id`wow | :D |
| 18:32.01 | id`wow | ofcource* |
| 18:32.14 | Rowne | You have a ["c"] entry? *Stares.* |
| 18:32.20 | Rowne | I don't even define db.c at any point ... |
| 18:32.57 | id`wow | err |
| 18:32.58 | id`wow | whatever |
| 18:32.58 | id`wow | :p[ |
| 18:33.12 | Rowne | But yeah, if you edit it, it'll work just fine. |
| 18:33.17 | MoonWolf | rowne, 1 you can't bid on your own auctions |
| 18:33.19 | MoonWolf | and 2 |
| 18:33.21 | Rowne | Lua == Lua. |
| 18:33.21 | MoonWolf | my string is |
| 18:33.22 | id`wow | k |
| 18:33.29 | MoonWolf | You won an auction for .... |
| 18:33.38 | Rowne | Okay ... |
| 18:33.42 | Rowne | When did you get that error then? |
| 18:33.46 | Rowne | If not at the auctionhouse? |
| 18:33.50 | MoonWolf | when i loaded the addon up. |
| 18:34.12 | Rowne | Oh well DUH, of course. |
| 18:34.13 | MoonWolf | I should have said that. |
| 18:34.13 | Rowne | At me, not you. |
| 18:34.19 | Rowne | I forgot something. |
| 18:34.24 | Rowne | I recently edited it to fix something. |
| 18:34.32 | Rowne | And I forgot to put the 'if item then' bit back in. :p |
| 18:34.38 | Rowne | So it's firing for every SYSMSG line. |
| 18:34.42 | MoonWolf | BAD |
| 18:34.47 | Rowne | Yes. Very. *Hides.* |
| 18:34.48 | MoonWolf | your a lag generator. |
| 18:34.53 | kergoth`food | !hi |
| 18:34.54 | purl | hello, kergoth`food |
| 18:34.59 | Rowne | !food |
| 18:35.00 | kergoth`food | tim unignored me :) |
| 18:35.08 | MoonWolf | tim ? |
| 18:35.09 | Rowne | !rlart |
| 18:35.12 | kergoth`food | !timriker |
| 18:35.14 | purl | i heard timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 18:35.31 | id`wow | :p |
| 18:35.32 | Rowne | That was so apt. :p |
| 18:35.45 | Rowne | The bot knows of my Taurenness. |
| 18:35.48 | *** join/##ace ToastTheif (i=HydraIRC@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 18:35.51 | MoonWolf | okay. tell me what to fix in the line rowne. |
| 18:35.59 | MoonWolf | thats faster then downloading a new version. |
| 18:36.01 | Rowne | Okay, line: |
| 18:36.04 | Rowne | 115 |
| 18:36.08 | Rowne | if item then self:AnnounceWin(item) end |
| 18:36.14 | Rowne | I'm also torn. |
| 18:36.26 | Rowne | I really want to put a flag in there so it'll only fire if they're at the auction-house ... but ... |
| 18:36.33 | Rowne | That'll overcomplicate the Addon. |
| 18:36.37 | Rowne | I want it to be entry-level. |
| 18:36.44 | Rowne | I'm really, really torn over that one. |
| 18:37.05 | Rowne | Do I show good coding ethos and confuse them or do I keep it simple? |
| 18:37.06 | MoonWolf | Tell them that the flag should be there but that you did not place it for ... reason. |
| 18:37.16 | Rowne | Yeah, that'll work. |
| 18:37.26 | Rowne | I'll save that for a future lesson! |
| 18:37.35 | Rowne | Touchdown a/R.2 - The Next Education! |
| 18:37.40 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 18:37.51 | Rowne | That was really, really bad. |
| 18:37.54 | MoonWolf | yes. |
| 18:38.03 | MoonWolf | i am so geeky to think that is funny. |
| 18:38.04 | Rowne | I have my Tain moments. |
| 18:38.18 | kergoth`food | i have way too many random bits of lua code laying around my hard drive |
| 18:38.23 | kergoth`food | i cant even find certain ones anymore |
| 18:38.27 | kergoth`food | i need to put all this in svn |
| 18:38.29 | Rowne | ker: Likewise. |
| 18:38.33 | MoonWolf | rowne, its working fine. |
| 18:38.41 | kergoth`food | i wanted to find my table size estimation code, and couldnt |
| 18:38.42 | Rowne | Almost every directory on my hard-drive has 'test.lua' in it. |
| 18:38.45 | ToastTheif | hey guys |
| 18:38.47 | kergoth`food | until i hcecked like 8 files with vi |
| 18:38.49 | kergoth`food | yeah :) |
| 18:38.52 | kergoth`food | thats what i do too |
| 18:38.54 | ToastTheif | there's a new asshole on the WoW boards |
| 18:39.19 | ToastTheif | so far he's gone up against Tem, Iriel, and now he's taking on Fizzwidget |
| 18:39.20 | MoonWolf | ToastTheif: thats nothing new |
| 18:39.29 | MoonWolf | THIS i HAVE to see. |
| 18:39.34 | Rowne | Yeah, if he turns up on wowace.com though .... |
| 18:39.40 | Rowne | We'll ALL tear him a new one. |
| 18:39.47 | Rowne | But they're never brave enough. :p |
| 18:40.00 | MoonWolf | i happen to like iriel and fizzwidget. |
| 18:40.08 | MoonWolf | link ? |
| 18:40.15 | ToastTheif | If I could post on the wow forums, I would just just to tear that ahbra kid up |
| 18:40.23 | kergoth`food | i dont frequent the blizzard forums. not a fan of forums in general |
| 18:40.27 | ToastTheif | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=238176&p=1&tmp=1#post238176 |
| 18:40.41 | ToastTheif | he's dissing Fiz, just because his posts are creative |
| 18:40.48 | MoonWolf | eeuh. |
| 18:40.59 | MoonWolf | yeah, fizz has awesome idea's. |
| 18:41.03 | MoonWolf | this is bad ? |
| 18:41.06 | ToastTheif | the tem and iriel one was about WhoBuddy I think I remember |
| 18:41.10 | MoonWolf | Service Unavailable |
| 18:41.12 | Rowne | What an ARSEHOLE. |
| 18:41.22 | Rowne | He's picking on people for being creative and roleplaying? |
| 18:41.28 | ToastTheif | lol yeah, blizz might be having some probs with the new patch |
| 18:41.38 | Rowne | That's the first good Troll I've seen in a while. Saien discoloured my view of Trolls. This time, I'm on the side of the Trolls. :p |
| 18:41.42 | ToastTheif | you should see what he wrote to tem and iriel Rowne |
| 18:41.56 | Rowne | Yeah but if someone attacks roleplaying, they piss me off, truly. |
| 18:42.08 | MoonWolf | in a thread by cairenn no less. |
| 18:42.15 | ToastTheif | he got all pissed because Tem finished WhoBuddy b4 he could get his version of the addon out |
| 18:42.22 | MoonWolf | I don't rp much but i side with the rpers |
| 18:42.51 | Rowne | ... I want to drop an old piano on the stupid Dwarf. |
| 18:42.52 | kergoth`food | oh that was that guy? i remembered that thread but didnt remember his name |
| 18:42.54 | kergoth`food | jeeze |
| 18:43.09 | *** join/##ace Plorkyeran (n=Knightki@stwl36.resnet.neu.edu) |
| 18:43.23 | ToastTheif | Iriel went off on him pretty good, be I'd like to have a shot :) |
| 18:43.41 | Rowne | If I still had an account I'd -so- tell him off for picking on roleplayers. |
| 18:43.54 | MoonWolf | hmm, the patch is taking a big chunck out of us forum bandwith. |
| 18:44.38 | MoonWolf | ass! |
| 18:44.58 | Rowne | Tain? |
| 18:45.10 | Rowne | May I login as you to grab the patch? |
| 18:45.28 | Rowne | I remember your user/pass so you don't need to worry about that. |
| 18:45.48 | ToastTheif | Rowne |
| 18:45.51 | Rowne | Hm? |
| 18:45.58 | ToastTheif | just dl it off of guru |
| 18:46.00 | ToastTheif | that's what I do |
| 18:46.03 | Rowne | Nope. |
| 18:46.12 | Rowne | I won't trust anything but an official source. |
| 18:46.18 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 18:46.34 | Rowne | How do I know that zeeg upholds the same sanitation standards that I do? |
| 18:46.43 | kergoth`food | get someoen to extract the torrent from the downloader exe |
| 18:46.43 | Tain | I can put the patch up that I just d/led on my site. |
| 18:46.45 | MoonWolf | eeuh, knowing zeeg. |
| 18:46.47 | kergoth`food | then go download it with your torrent client |
| 18:46.47 | MoonWolf | you don't |
| 18:46.53 | Tain | It's just quicker than the patch d/l. |
| 18:46.55 | ToastTheif | have fun with those dl rates then :) |
| 18:47.03 | Rowne | Yeah but I want to do the patch D/L ... |
| 18:47.03 | Tain | I don't mind you using my acct though. |
| 18:47.05 | Tain | Ok |
| 18:47.07 | Rowne | Yay! Thanks. |
| 18:47.08 | Tain | No problem. |
| 18:47.12 | MoonWolf | the dl rates when using a torrent client shoot up. |
| 18:47.13 | Rowne | I appreciate it, Tain. |
| 18:47.36 | Tain | They went up and down with me. Still took a while. |
| 18:47.45 | Tain | Oh Rowne |
| 18:47.50 | Rowne | Okay ... forget that idea. |
| 18:47.54 | Rowne | The login server's down. |
| 18:47.59 | Rowne | Hm Tain? |
| 18:48.13 | Tain | Rag Doll Kung Fu is WEIRD> |
| 18:48.21 | MoonWolf | i like ragdoll |
| 18:48.25 | Rowne | Isn't it though? *Joy.* |
| 18:48.31 | Tain | It's so funny. |
| 18:48.37 | Rowne | Auugh! |
| 18:48.41 | Rowne | You reminded me of it though. |
| 18:48.46 | Rowne | And I still have three hours to wait. >.< |
| 18:48.57 | MoonWolf | rowne before you go |
| 18:49.05 | Rowne | I'm not going anywhere. |
| 18:49.23 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 18:49.31 | Rowne | ... ... ... |
| 18:49.34 | Rowne | He bumped the timer back. |
| 18:49.45 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 18:49.50 | MoonWolf | i have to go for a while |
| 18:49.53 | MoonWolf | it will have to wait. |
| 18:49.57 | Rowne | Hm? |
| 18:49.58 | Rowne | Er. |
| 18:49.59 | Rowne | Okay. |
| 18:50.03 | Rowne | I'll be here. |
| 18:50.05 | Rowne | Commenting out Touchdown. |
| 18:50.21 | Rowne | This Addon's about to get huge because I need to write a glossary. >.< |
| 18:51.08 | Rowne | ker? |
| 18:51.17 | kergoth`food | hm? |
| 18:51.18 | id`wow | Rowne: the altest visor, dows it work and stuff? :X |
| 18:51.19 | Rowne | The proper format for a block comment is --[[ ]]-- right? I've never used them. |
| 18:51.23 | id`wow | latest, even |
| 18:51.23 | kergoth`food | yeah |
| 18:51.28 | kergoth`food | i never use em either |
| 18:51.34 | Rowne | I have to though. |
| 18:51.37 | Rowne | For my glossary. |
| 18:51.39 | kergoth`food | i just prefix all the lines with -- |
| 18:51.40 | Rowne | In Touchdown. |
| 18:51.46 | Rowne | Otherwise it'll be a hell of a lot of --. |
| 18:51.49 | Rowne | Like, 60 lines of. ;p |
| 18:51.57 | id`wow | Rowne: :(? |
| 18:51.57 | kergoth`food | i'm used to it. its like c++'s // |
| 18:52.08 | Rowne | id: The latest Visor works fine. |
| 18:52.12 | id`wow | im used to /* */ >_> |
| 18:52.18 | Rowne | Which part are you referring to though? |
| 18:52.24 | id`wow | Rowne: with the multiple button stuff? |
| 18:52.26 | Rowne | Do you mean the beta I was working on with the button groups? |
| 18:52.27 | Rowne | Ah. |
| 18:52.29 | id`wow | (not that i really need it) |
| 18:52.35 | Rowne | Yeah ... I can't figure this out. |
| 18:52.37 | id`wow | yeh |
| 18:52.39 | id`wow | ok |
| 18:52.40 | Rowne | It's frankly really annoying me. |
| 18:52.44 | id`wow | never mind then rowne |
| 18:52.46 | id`wow | drop it |
| 18:52.47 | id`wow | :D |
| 18:52.50 | Rowne | Nono. |
| 18:52.53 | Rowne | I will get this working. |
| 18:52.55 | id`wow | dont wnat to push you into things |
| 18:52.57 | ToastTheif | so wait |
| 18:52.59 | Rowne | I just need to get in game at some point and test it myself. |
| 18:53.03 | id`wow | k |
| 18:53.10 | ToastTheif | did druid talents get absolutley NO changes from test to live? |
| 18:54.44 | ToastTheif | There is now an option in the interface window to put a translucent pane behind the portraits and health/mana of other party members for easier visibility. |
| 18:54.56 | id`wow | Q: do i need my bag bar to switch/use bags? |
| 18:54.56 | kergoth`food | what does that mean, anyway? |
| 18:55.01 | kergoth`food | translucent pane? |
| 18:55.25 | Rowne | My description of tables sounds like C+ popping and pushing. |
| 18:55.28 | Rowne | Bad, bad memories. |
| 18:55.33 | Rowne | Or C, whichever it was. |
| 18:55.53 | id`wow | well a table can be anything |
| 18:55.55 | id`wow | including fifo |
| 18:55.56 | id`wow | :| |
| 18:56.07 | Rowne | Yeah but ... popping and pushing. *Shudder.* |
| 18:56.11 | id`wow | hehe |
| 18:56.12 | Rowne | Thank the coding Gods for direct indexing. |
| 18:56.19 | id`wow | yeah |
| 18:56.35 | kergoth`food | Rowne: did you see that linked list implementation that rici did that doesnt use tables? |
| 18:56.41 | kergoth`food | its so sick and neat |
| 18:57.50 | Rowne | Nope. |
| 18:57.53 | Rowne | I don't recall ... |
| 18:58.04 | kergoth`food | 16:37 < rici> function cons(x, xs) return function() return x, xs end end |
| 18:58.04 | kergoth`food | 16:37 < rici> function head(x) return (x()) end |
| 18:58.04 | kergoth`food | 16:38 < rici> function tail(x) local _, rv = x(); return rv end |
| 18:58.04 | kergoth`food | 16:38 < rici> -- a nice simple linked list implementation. |
| 18:58.13 | kergoth`food | read that a couple times until it sinks in |
| 18:58.49 | kergoth`food | an item in the linked list is a closure that returns its previous and next entries :D |
| 18:58.53 | Rowne | Oh my ... |
| 18:58.54 | kergoth`food | its twisted. |
| 18:59.01 | kergoth`food | but i love it anyway |
| 18:59.18 | Rowne | I think I just barely get that. |
| 18:59.30 | kergoth`food | i had to read it a few times before comprehension dawned |
| 19:00.26 | kergoth`food | head(x) returns the first of the two arguments that the item in the list returns when its called |
| 19:00.30 | kergoth`food | tail(x) returns the second |
| 19:00.53 | kergoth`food | cons(x, xs) just generates and returns a closure that returns x and xs.. so.. in that function, x is the previous element, xs is the next |
| 19:01.25 | kergoth`food | it isnt perfect, since you cant easily manipulate the next/prev elements without generating a whole new closure |
| 19:01.42 | kergoth`food | but the idea.. the concept of implementing an element in a list as something other than a table.. as a function.. is just .. wow |
| 19:01.47 | Rowne | It's still nifty though, if brainbending. |
| 19:01.50 | kergoth`food | yeah |
| 19:02.02 | Rowne | Would you be able to actually DO that in any other language? |
| 19:02.06 | Rowne | That looks so alien to me. |
| 19:02.40 | kergoth`food | 16:01 < rici> of course, the above implementation is immutable, which might make it unsuitable for certain programming styles. |
| 19:02.46 | id`wow | Q: do i need my bag bar to switch/use bags? |
| 19:03.00 | kergoth`food | id`wow: use something like onebag. then use the keybinding to open/close the bags |
| 19:03.02 | Plorkyeran | actually, that's basically what we're learning to do in my scheme class... |
| 19:03.10 | kergoth`food | you cant switch them around or anything without the bar though |
| 19:03.13 | id`wow | kergoth`food: me too so i want to get rid of the damn bar |
| 19:03.19 | kergoth`food | unless you're using an inventory mod that can show the bags |
| 19:03.20 | Plorkyeran | apparently it's the standard way to handle lists in lisp-based languages |
| 19:03.22 | kergoth`food | like mybags/myinventory |
| 19:03.23 | id`wow | but i want to be able to swap bars |
| 19:03.25 | kergoth`food | Plorkyeran: oh really? interesting |
| 19:03.37 | kergoth`food | i havent had much experience with .. what is it, functional programming languages? |
| 19:04.13 | Plorkyeran | yeah, I'm pretty sure lisp is the extreme example of functional programming |
| 19:04.32 | Plorkyeran | lua actually has a surprisingly large amount in common with it |
| 19:04.55 | Rowne | ker: Can I get an honest opinion from you? |
| 19:05.02 | kergoth`food | sure |
| 19:05.30 | Rowne | I'm thinking of converting to your method shown in InformaTips for storing functions -within- the Addon table as it's created. I think this might be easier to explain the sack idea to people but it might also be more confusing. |
| 19:05.42 | Rowne | From an Addon Coding for Dummies standpoint, is it better to do it your way or the way I'm used to? |
| 19:06.29 | kergoth`food | it really doesnt matter. either way the functions end up in the class/object you're creating. its purely a preference thing, afaik |
| 19:06.42 | kergoth`food | lets see.. |
| 19:07.02 | kergoth`food | Rowne: you know, i think my way might be easier for them to grasp |
| 19:07.12 | kergoth`food | since self is right there, explicitly stated |
| 19:07.16 | kergoth`food | they dont have to try to guess where self is coming from |
| 19:07.34 | kergoth`food | blah = function(self, ...) end |
| 19:07.44 | kergoth`food | hmm |
| 19:07.57 | Rowne | Yeah but that also wouldn't give me a chance to explain how : works. So I'm torn. |
| 19:08.05 | Rowne | I'm thinking your way is best but ... augh. |
| 19:08.08 | Rowne | Both have pro's and cons. |
| 19:08.09 | kergoth`food | well, you could explain : when you call the functions |
| 19:08.25 | Rowne | Yeah but if I use your way, there is no :. |
| 19:08.28 | kergoth`food | then they'll see both sides of the equation, how it really is, and how you can use the syntactic sugar to make your life easier |
| 19:08.33 | kergoth`food | there is a : when you -call- the functions |
| 19:08.38 | Rowne | Oh. |
| 19:08.38 | kergoth`food | you'd still go self:blah() |
| 19:08.39 | Rowne | Point. |
| 19:08.41 | kergoth`food | just not when you define them |
| 19:08.45 | Rowne | Okay, noted. |
| 19:08.52 | Rowne | I think I'll switch to your method, then. |
| 19:09.03 | Rowne | Can I have a link to your InformaTips.lua again? |
| 19:09.27 | kergoth`food | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/ |
| 19:09.49 | kergoth`food | thats the 'trac' for everything at the Ace project at opensvn, which includes informatips |
| 19:09.56 | kergoth`food | just click on informatips, then click on sources |
| 19:10.05 | Rowne | You actually kept the InformaTips description from the toc? *Amused.* |
| 19:10.18 | kergoth`food | hehe |
| 19:10.56 | kergoth`food | Rowne: were you around when i showed what CIA-4 here does? |
| 19:10.59 | kergoth`food | i dont think so |
| 19:11.05 | Rowne | I wasn't, no. |
| 19:11.22 | kergoth`food | its the irc incarnation of http://cia.navi.cx/ |
| 19:11.28 | kergoth`food | a project for tracking commits on open source projects |
| 19:11.36 | kergoth`food | anything i check into the Ace opensvn project, shows up here, as i do it. |
| 19:11.43 | kergoth`food | check it out, i'll generate the last one, from this morning |
| 19:11.45 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth * r33 10FooAddon/FooConstants.lua: FooAddon: Remove the description from FooConstants, since ace can pull that from the .toc. |
| 19:12.28 | Rowne | Ooh. |
| 19:12.30 | Rowne | Nifty! |
| 19:13.55 | Rowne | ker, another opinion I should ask ... |
| 19:14.13 | Rowne | Should I switch my Get/Set/Msg over to RegisterFunctions to serve as a good example for that? |
| 19:14.20 | ToastTheif | Kergoth works for the CIA |
| 19:14.30 | Rowne | Or would that just be overcomplexifying for this kind of thing? |
| 19:25.28 | Rowne | Damn ... I did a really good job of explaining how self works in functions in the glossary if I do say so myself. |
| 19:30.24 | ToastTheif | hey guys |
| 19:30.51 | ToastTheif | Would any of you happen to know anything about bypassing something like say...SurfControl? |
| 19:30.58 | MoonWolf | back |
| 19:31.09 | ToastTheif | I've been thinking of putting firefox or something on a CD to see if that works |
| 19:31.51 | MoonWolf | hmm, i have no idea how surfcontroll works. |
| 19:32.04 | MoonWolf | if its a ie plugin, then most likely yes |
| 19:32.09 | ToastTheif | no |
| 19:32.12 | ToastTheif | that would be ez |
| 19:32.20 | MoonWolf | where is it installed ? |
| 19:32.23 | ToastTheif | it's a full program |
| 19:32.39 | ToastTheif | probally on the admin computer? =P |
| 19:32.50 | MoonWolf | any parts of it on your pc ? |
| 19:33.06 | Rowne | He could also make himself a Linux boot CD with handy things like Gaim and Firefox on it. |
| 19:33.29 | ToastTheif | not sure |
| 19:33.32 | Rowne | Linspire is pretty easy to use for the Linux newperson. It'd just be setting it up to access the network, that'd be a bitch. |
| 19:33.34 | MoonWolf | yes, but i have a feeling surfcontroll operates on the network |
| 19:33.44 | MoonWolf | so no bypassing through firefox. |
| 19:33.45 | Rowne | Yeah, it might ... |
| 19:33.51 | ToastTheif | it's at my school |
| 19:34.07 | ToastTheif | so I can't get too much info about it |
| 19:34.15 | ToastTheif | but I've been googling it, and finding out some things |
| 19:34.25 | MoonWolf | hmm, don't fuck with school sysadmins. |
| 19:34.34 | ToastTheif | bleh, they won't know |
| 19:34.40 | ToastTheif | I live in hick town USA |
| 19:35.42 | MoonWolf | Rowne, are you familiar with the band blind gaurdian ? |
| 19:37.13 | ToastTheif | I just want to use aim and msn anyway, well more like I just want to bypass it for fun |
| 19:37.30 | ToastTheif | Im thinking of just installing gaim thru a cd |
| 19:37.36 | ToastTheif | see if that works |
| 19:38.13 | *** join/##ace Ramble (n=chatzill@be-pc16.ic.ucsc.edu) |
| 19:39.31 | MoonWolf | ToastTheif: do you have a http proxy ? |
| 19:39.31 | Ramble | ... I suppose I should assume you're talking to me? |
| 19:39.34 | ToastTheif | I dunno =P I read somewhere I could try using one |
| 19:39.55 | Ramble | ep, wow, I'm out of it... |
| 19:40.01 | MoonWolf | yes kinda |
| 19:40.35 | MoonWolf | ToastTheif: no, your school, does it use a http proxy. tell me if you no idea what im talking about. |
| 19:43.29 | id`wow | howmany warriot stances are there? |
| 19:43.31 | id`wow | 3? |
| 19:43.45 | MoonWolf | don't ask me |
| 19:43.51 | Rowne | BBIAB, guys. |
| 19:43.52 | *** part/##ace Rowne (n=Wuff@81-178-100-125.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 19:44.36 | *** join/##ace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@34.80-202-248.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:53.01 | *** join/##ace Ramble (n=chatzill@college10-46-85.resnet.ucsc.edu) |
| 19:53.08 | Stylpe | Yay! |
| 19:53.23 | Ramble | OK, so .... still trying to figgure out why IRC isn't working on my computer. |
| 19:53.28 | Stylpe | oh |
| 19:53.38 | Stylpe | I just made a post |
| 19:53.58 | Ramble | Oh? what did you suggest? |
| 19:54.10 | Stylpe | I asked how you're connected to the net |
| 19:55.43 | Ramble | oh.. hm. Well, I'm at work, on lunch till 1 so I'll explain what I know is going on so far real quick |
| 19:56.23 | Ramble | I'm on my schools network, the school actually has two networks, one for staff and one for students. I connected at the labs, that's on the staff network and it worked fine. |
| 19:56.59 | Stylpe | huh. |
| 19:57.09 | Ramble | now... I'm at work, I work for IT and at the office we have jacks for both networks, so now I'm trying it on the student network on a mac laptop |
| 19:57.11 | Ramble | and it's working fine |
| 19:57.42 | Stylpe | Do you know if you have a firewall on your machine? |
| 19:57.46 | Ramble | so... it's something wrong with my Windows computer :-( and I don't know exactly where to look |
| 19:57.53 | Stylpe | (inadvertedly or otherwise) |
| 19:58.01 | Ramble | just the Windows firewall, and I disabled it and it didn't help any |
| 19:58.18 | Ramble | ... I should have brought my laptop to work. |
| 19:58.49 | Stylpe | Do other internet activities work as intended? |
| 19:58.59 | MoonWolf | ramble, have you tried connecting to an ip instead of an url ? |
| 19:59.51 | Ramble | yup. Just IRC seems funked. MoonWolf: no, i haven't, but when I connected using Hydra it looked up the IP and it looked fine to me |
| 20:00.07 | MoonWolf | okay. |
| 20:00.14 | MoonWolf | then i have no idea. |
| 20:00.27 | Stylpe | Have you tried connecting to other networks? |
| 20:01.01 | Ramble | other IRC servers? yeah, none work. I must be blocking port 6667 on my computer; I'll have to figgure it out later :-/ |
| 20:02.23 | Stylpe | You've tried networks like EFNet and DALNet? |
| 20:03.35 | Ramble | eh, I don't know exactly what all I've tried, and I don't have my computer handy so ... I'll mess with it tonight maybe |
| 20:03.44 | Stylpe | òk |
| 20:04.51 | Ramble | alright, I should get back to work, later guys. |
| 20:04.59 | *** part/##ace Ramble (n=chatzill@college10-46-85.resnet.ucsc.edu) |
| 20:09.05 | Plorkyeran | ow, lots of breakage |
| 20:09.56 | MoonWolf | what broke ? |
| 20:11.12 | Plorkyeran | what I've noticed so far is Gypsymod, Mapscroll, sortenchant, ctra |
| 20:11.19 | Plorkyeran | and probably a lot more |
| 20:11.30 | Plorkyeran | ah_mailcollect |
| 20:13.10 | Plorkyeran | Reputation, but it's kinda pointless now |
| 20:13.24 | MoonWolf | the blizzard change to rep caused that no doubt. |
| 20:13.40 | MoonWolf | what parts of gypsy, te buff frame. |
| 20:13.44 | Plorkyeran | yeah, they interact in amusing ways |
| 20:13.49 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 20:13.51 | Plorkyeran | hotbar 1.0 is the only part I use |
| 20:13.56 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 20:13.57 | MoonWolf | k |
| 20:14.01 | Plorkyeran | the buttons just don't do anything |
| 20:14.18 | MoonWolf | sorry to hear. |
| 20:15.50 | Plorkyeran | ace is giving me some random errors as well |
| 20:15.57 | Plorkyeran | it'd be nice if it would actually display the error |
| 20:16.22 | MoonWolf | if you get an actual error you could report dump it on the forums. |
| 20:18.51 | id`wow | My warrior base, works on all resolutions if you tweak the settings to your screen resolution. (i run on 1680x1050). but the positioning is right. http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2308/wowscrnshot1011052216398nq.jpg |
| 20:18.57 | id`wow | notgin much tbhj |
| 20:18.58 | id`wow | :P |
| 20:19.07 | id`wow | the char is lowlvl ill add as i go,. |
| 20:19.33 | id`wow | dunno why it says 5 6 7 |
| 20:19.39 | id`wow | i bound it to 2 3 4 |
| 20:19.40 | id`wow | ;\ |
| 20:21.38 | Tain | Ooh auctioneer is broke |
| 20:22.51 | MoonWolf | expected. |
| 20:23.43 | Tain | oh they added to the items you're auctioning so you can see the buy amount you put it up for. |
| 20:23.43 | MoonWolf | lots of addons will need fixing, trashing or rewriting this patch. |
| 20:23.50 | id`wow | u guys have 1.8? |
| 20:24.02 | MoonWolf | yeah, stupid us guys get it a day earlyer. |
| 20:25.15 | id`wow | :p |
| 20:25.18 | id`wow | s'ok |
| 20:25.21 | id`wow | hmm |
| 20:25.24 | id`wow | im gunna add another bar |
| 20:25.32 | id`wow | smaller buttons above my main attack bar |
| 20:25.36 | id`wow | for shouts |
| 20:25.36 | id`wow | :D |
| 20:25.47 | id`wow | this is so easy |
| 20:25.55 | id`wow | its easier and more fun even then (x)html |
| 20:26.33 | MoonWolf | !xhtml xhtml is for pussy's real men config visor |
| 20:26.36 | purl | MoonWolf: please, watch your language. |
| 20:26.41 | MoonWolf | !xhtml |
| 20:26.43 | purl | xhtml is, like, eXtensible HyperText Markup, it's HTML redefined in XML |
| 20:26.50 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 20:27.26 | Tain | Yeah and if you're gonna use foul language at least use it's proper grammar. |
| 20:27.33 | Stylpe | PUSSIES! |
| 20:27.38 | Stylpe | Yeah! |
| 20:27.48 | Stylpe | I'm talking about cats, of course |
| 20:28.07 | id`wow | done! |
| 20:28.34 | id`wow | i love that picture |
| 20:28.50 | id`wow | hot_chick_with_nice_pussy.jpg |
| 20:28.57 | id`wow | :P |
| 20:29.00 | Stylpe | hehe |
| 20:29.12 | id`wow | http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/0da3a80e |
| 20:29.13 | id`wow | :d |
| 20:29.23 | id`wow | 1st link hit, almost always |
| 20:29.25 | id`wow | ;) |
| 20:31.43 | Tain | Geez they broke so much. |
| 20:34.38 | id`wow | nah they didnt |
| 20:34.51 | id`wow | blizzard updates their code |
| 20:35.16 | id`wow | id didnt break mods, mods broke |
| 20:35.21 | id`wow | it* |
| 20:35.27 | Tain | You sir, are mistar obvious! |
| 20:35.53 | Tain | I was expressing surprise at how many mods don't work. |
| 20:36.07 | Tain | There's always some, but most of mine don't. |
| 20:36.15 | kergoth | that is surprising, given how few ui changes were outlined in the patch notes |
| 20:36.25 | kergoth | not like 1.7 was |
| 20:36.32 | Tain | And technically since the Blizzard code changed and the mod code didn't, then yes Blizzard broke the mods. |
| 20:36.41 | Tain | Of course it's not their responsibility not to. |
| 20:48.26 | Tain | They added more icons to the macro menu. |
| 20:48.38 | Tain | Most all of the weapon and armor icons are there now. |
| 20:48.47 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:48.57 | kergoth | itd be nice if blizzard actually documented everything they did in the patch notes, wouldn it? |
| 20:48.59 | kergoth | bastards |
| 20:49.06 | Tain | They never do. |
| 20:49.12 | kergoth | yeah i know, it just sucks |
| 20:49.22 | Tain | And then when someoen finds it and asks they say, "Oh we had that in another version of the patch notes, we just forgot." |
| 20:49.50 | Tain | Uh oh! \Ace\Ace.lua:144 : attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 20:50.03 | kergoth | eep |
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| 20:55.21 | Plorkyeran | most of the breakage that I've run into was documented |
| 20:55.33 | Plorkyeran | the built-in addons seem to be causing a lot of problems |
| 20:56.02 | Tain | Ah luaslinger is partially borked. |
| 20:56.41 | Tain | Ok, it's just display related. |
| 20:59.32 | Tain | I'm getting a lot of artifacts with text in all frames. Still readable, but artifacts beneath many chars. |
| 20:59.52 | id`wow | artifacts? |
| 21:00.03 | Plorkyeran | yeah, I'm getting the same thing |
| 21:00.19 | id`wow | hm |
| 21:00.21 | id`wow | im here twice |
| 21:00.24 | id`wow | let me kill me |
| 21:00.25 | id`wow | :D |
| 21:01.02 | id`wow | there |
| 21:01.54 | id` | lol "id`" is owned by someone |
| 21:01.59 | id` | nickserv, how pathetic |
| 21:02.15 | kergoth | pick a nick nobody else has :P |
| 21:02.20 | id` | no |
| 21:02.46 | id` | if people cant do without a childish arguement if they want the same name they are as i said acting childish |
| 21:02.50 | id` | so nickserv is obsolete |
| 21:03.06 | id` | you you are going to have a channel service use a bot handle and pass |
| 21:03.10 | id` | not nickname registration |
| 21:03.31 | id` | if you* |
| 21:03.32 | Tain | Whether or not they act like children doesn't stop it from happening. |
| 21:03.44 | id` | It's their problem |
| 21:03.54 | Tain | That's all nickserv is doing, stopping those arguments. |
| 21:03.57 | id` | if someone nags about this nick ill happily change it |
| 21:04.07 | Tain | That's you. |
| 21:04.08 | id` | to id`` or whatever |
| 21:04.10 | id` | yes |
| 21:04.48 | id` | anyone that cant resolve minor problems like this in a normal way would get the boot if i were an ircop |
| 21:04.51 | id` | problem solved |
| 21:06.42 | id` | :( @ Stylpe |
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| 21:07.24 | Rowne | Well that was exhausting. |
| 21:07.48 | Tain | Did you swim the English channel? |
| 21:08.01 | Rowne | Basically I'm thinking I should put both the uncommented and commented Addons up in a forum thread and then say that tomorrow at 8:30PM GMT there's going to be a Q&A where people can ask questions. |
| 21:08.16 | Rowne | So ... who wants to see the commented version first to criticize me on it? ;p |
| 21:08.29 | Tain | I'll take a look sometime tonight. |
| 21:08.38 | Rowne | I'm thinking I should just get ker to rewrite it basically, I'm not sure whether I did such a good job, myself. |
| 21:08.43 | Tain | I won't be home from work 8:30 gmt though. |
| 21:09.01 | Rowne | Er, okay. |
| 21:18.00 | id` | oh noes |
| 21:18.05 | id` | im kickboxing then :'( |
| 21:18.33 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:18.51 | Rowne | Eep, how'd you get yourself into that one, id? |
| 21:18.56 | kergoth | whee, advanced routing in linux can be fun and really really complex |
| 21:19.05 | kergoth | kickboxing sounds fun. i used to do jeet kune do |
| 21:21.37 | kergoth | this network setup i'm doing for work is really complex. |
| 21:21.44 | kergoth | and simple, depending on how you look at it |
| 21:23.16 | id` | Rowne: i kickbox for fun |
| 21:23.19 | id` | 3x a week |
| 21:23.35 | id` | but im going to do it more serious |
| 21:24.01 | id` | my trainer says i can get alot better so im going to another gym where he trains himself (he does matches, also been karate champ and stuff) |
| 21:24.04 | id` | \o/ |
| 21:24.25 | kergoth | i miss working out |
| 21:24.40 | kergoth | used to weight lift every day and do jeet kune do twice a week |
| 21:24.45 | kergoth | now i'm becoming a fatass |
| 21:25.13 | Tain | You should try Chessboxing |
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| 21:28.41 | id` | lol |
| 21:28.53 | MoonWolf | what is so funny ? |
| 21:29.11 | id` | check! *punch* checkmate! *knockout* |
| 21:29.19 | id` | Tain You should try Chessboxing |
| 21:29.23 | Rowne | I'm personally reminded of Battlechess. |
| 21:29.33 | MoonWolf | battlechess.. ooh |
| 21:29.35 | MoonWolf | i liked that |
| 21:29.42 | Rowne | Best chess-game of the lot. *Nod.* |
| 21:29.47 | Rowne | Well, multiplayer anyway. |
| 21:30.06 | Rowne | Though QuakeChess came pretty close. |
| 21:30.14 | MoonWolf | never played that. |
| 21:30.24 | Rowne | It was a chess mod for Quake that used the Quake characters. |
| 21:30.33 | Rowne | And on capturing another piece they'd hack the piece to death. |
| 21:30.50 | kergoth | hehe, i remember that |
| 21:30.52 | kergoth | and battlechess too |
| 21:30.54 | kergoth | loved that |
| 21:31.40 | Rowne | One of the developers out there -really- needs to recreate Battlechess in 3D |
| 21:31.47 | kergoth | yeah, thatd be sweet |
| 21:31.50 | kergoth | and make it open source |
| 21:32.00 | Rowne | And moddable! |
| 21:32.01 | MoonWolf | and create themed set pieces. |
| 21:32.09 | MoonWolf | i want borg chess pieces |
| 21:32.11 | kergoth | and use lua to control the character behavior! |
| 21:32.12 | kergoth | :D |
| 21:32.35 | id` | create ace_mail_chess |
| 21:32.45 | id` | make chessboard with ace and pieces and stuff |
| 21:32.48 | Rowne | What, with players as chesspieces? |
| 21:32.52 | id` | and use mail to send stuff |
| 21:32.56 | Tain | http://www.wcbo.org/ - World Chess Boxing Organisation |
| 21:33.00 | id` | move this to ther |
| 21:33.01 | id` | e |
| 21:33.06 | Rowne | That'd be funny. |
| 21:33.21 | Rowne | If you capture a piece, there's a duel the player can't refuse, their entire UI gets locked out and they can only stand there and get killed. |
| 21:33.34 | id` | hehe |
| 21:33.45 | kergoth | you could do that, too |
| 21:33.54 | Rowne | That'd be a mammoth project, though. |
| 21:33.58 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:34.05 | Rowne | How you'd track their positions I dunno though ... |
| 21:34.11 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:34.17 | Rowne | GetPlayerMapPosition("player") only works for party members, now. :/ |
| 21:34.19 | Rowne | Or raid? |
| 21:34.21 | Rowne | Does it work for raid? |
| 21:34.26 | kergoth | not sure |
| 21:34.32 | id` | In a chessboxing fight two opponents play alternating rounds of chess and boxing. |
| 21:34.32 | kergoth | doesnt matter. |
| 21:34.33 | id` | lmao |
| 21:34.40 | kergoth | we can use a channel to communicate the piece coordinates |
| 21:34.43 | id` | so in round 5 you fall over the chess board |
| 21:34.46 | kergoth | the way guildmap works for the guild player locations |
| 21:34.46 | id` | :p |
| 21:35.01 | MoonWolf | kergoth, but look at the time frame good chess takes. |
| 21:35.02 | Rowne | That's true ... |
| 21:35.05 | MoonWolf | mail is the way. |
| 21:35.09 | kergoth | true |
| 21:35.09 | Rowne | Would anyone actually take on this as an idea, though? |
| 21:35.14 | MoonWolf | not me |
| 21:35.18 | kergoth | i'd have to be _really_ bored |
| 21:35.34 | Rowne | And you'd have to have enough for two sides of players who're really bored to test with. ;P |
| 21:35.54 | kergoth | hehe, that too |
| 21:35.55 | Tain | Pong would be more interesting. |
| 21:36.07 | kergoth | lets do football with a heavy leather ball |
| 21:36.25 | MoonWolf | football or soccer ? |
| 21:36.31 | kergoth | either |
| 21:36.32 | Rowne | With duelling to control who gets the ball? |
| 21:36.36 | Rowne | Or how would we control that? |
| 21:36.51 | MoonWolf | rowne raises a point, you can't TAKE the ball |
| 21:36.53 | kergoth | thatd work, or we'd have a tackle action and tells the other player's addon to halt him |
| 21:37.06 | kergoth | and all he can do is throw the ball to the person who tackled him |
| 21:37.08 | Rowne | ... ooh. |
| 21:37.09 | Rowne | You konw ... |
| 21:37.10 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 21:37.19 | Rowne | We could do it with Rock, Paper, Scissors. |
| 21:37.26 | kergoth | haha |
| 21:37.27 | MoonWolf | ... |
| 21:37.38 | kergoth | thatd be a good test of the functionality |
| 21:37.38 | kergoth | could then extend it to whatever else |
| 21:37.38 | MoonWolf | that would be one boring football match. |
| 21:37.59 | Rowne | You'd bind Rock, Paper and Scissors to keys. |
| 21:38.01 | Rowne | So not really. |
| 21:38.06 | Rowne | You'd target someone and hit Rock. |
| 21:38.08 | Rowne | For example.. |
| 21:38.19 | Rowne | And you might get the ball or you might not. |
| 21:38.40 | MoonWolf | so, opponent has the ball, im running to trhow range. |
| 21:38.52 | MoonWolf | quicly perss some key and i MIGHT get the ball. |
| 21:38.57 | MoonWolf | however |
| 21:39.06 | MoonWolf | no i suddenly do 5 presses. |
| 21:39.11 | MoonWolf | beat those ass. |
| 21:39.15 | Rowne | It diregards the rest. |
| 21:39.17 | Rowne | On a timer. |
| 21:39.22 | Rowne | s/diregards/disregards/ |
| 21:39.32 | kergoth | just use a roll. depending on their position, yours, etc, you weight the roll |
| 21:39.33 | Rowne | So basically, here's how I envision it ... |
| 21:39.41 | Rowne | You have 10 people standing on either side of the pitch. |
| 21:39.44 | Rowne | They all start to charge. |
| 21:39.46 | Rowne | One has the ball. |
| 21:39.52 | Rowne | Everyone starts RPSing like mad. :p |
| 21:40.00 | Rowne | The first person to cross the other team's line with the ball, wins. |
| 21:40.21 | Rowne | Oh and they must be within -close- range to try and tackle. |
| 21:40.35 | kergoth | Rowne: did you play blitzball in ffx? when you'd approach the person with the ball, it was a roll based on who was most advantagious and stuff to decide whether they get the ball, you get it, or one of you gets taken out |
| 21:40.37 | kergoth | thats how it should work |
| 21:40.56 | Rowne | Hm, okeydokey. |
| 21:40.58 | kergoth | get within range and challenge within the rules to get control |
| 21:41.20 | MoonWolf | devils advocate |
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| 21:41.28 | kergoth | hmm, unfortunatley, due to the way the ball moves, you couldnt really intercept a pass |
| 21:41.42 | MoonWolf | i modify my version of the mod to not allow any tackles... |
| 21:41.52 | kergoth | haha, yeah, thats the problem |
| 21:41.53 | Rowne | You'd get banned for cheating. |
| 21:42.02 | Rowne | All the players set you to ignore. ;p |
| 21:42.03 | kergoth | yeah, thats true, it wouldnt be hard to check |
| 21:42.06 | Rowne | And get a new team-member. |
| 21:42.11 | kergoth | if they dont play by the rules, they're gone |
| 21:42.32 | Rowne | ker: I have another approach idea. |
| 21:42.33 | MoonWolf | im a rogue and use stealth ? |
| 21:42.40 | Rowne | If you drink too much, you start to walk funny, right? |
| 21:42.41 | MoonWolf | sprint |
| 21:42.43 | MoonWolf | evasion |
| 21:42.52 | MoonWolf | ghost wolfe |
| 21:42.53 | kergoth | player A throws the ball to player B. player C is poisitioned between them. player B gets the ball due to game bheavior, but at that point all 3 are halted and a roll occurs to see if player C intercepted |
| 21:42.55 | MoonWolf | wolf* |
| 21:43.00 | kergoth | if he did, player B has to throw it to C |
| 21:43.11 | kergoth | Rowne: yep |
| 21:43.27 | MoonWolf | polymorph |
| 21:43.35 | MoonWolf | frost nova |
| 21:43.40 | MoonWolf | you can't balance it. |
| 21:43.45 | Rowne | I was thinking that one mod we could do a race, everyone has to have X type of X drink in their bag to participate, when they get the ball, they're forced to drink one. And it's the first to reach the end-point of the race. |
| 21:43.59 | Rowne | So the first people to lose would be the ones that get the most drunk. |
| 21:44.00 | kergoth | thatd be cool |
| 21:44.14 | Rowne | Really easy, too. |
| 21:44.20 | Rowne | You'd only need GetPlayerMapPosition("player"). |
| 21:44.28 | Rowne | And you'd use that to set the end-point with the rulesmaster. |
| 21:44.40 | Rowne | Then everyone would start from the start point and the insanity would begin. |
| 21:44.42 | MoonWolf | simply add those rules too some existing race organisor addon |
| 21:44.57 | Rowne | There aren't any, I don't think. |
| 21:45.10 | Rowne | But we could make one! Easily. |
| 21:45.11 | kergoth | yeah there are, they just dont force policies and stuff the way we're talking about, i dont th ink |
| 21:45.14 | MoonWolf | there is one i know off. |
| 21:45.14 | kergoth | i remember seeing one somewhere.. |
| 21:45.47 | Rowne | We could integrate this with PlayBall, too! |
| 21:45.53 | Rowne | Which is throw the ball to the target on a keypress. |
| 21:46.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:46.30 | Rowne | The only trick is ... |
| 21:46.34 | kergoth | myg uild and i used to do capture the flag in warsong gulch drunk |
| 21:46.36 | Rowne | How do we demonstrate where the endpoint is? |
| 21:46.51 | Rowne | Can we control the minimap and add quest-like things? |
| 21:47.01 | kergoth | thatd work, add a mapnote with mapnotes |
| 21:47.04 | kergoth | you can do that |
| 21:47.12 | Rowne | MapNotes, yes! |
| 21:47.21 | kergoth | theres regular notes, and minimap notes |
| 21:47.24 | MoonWolf | the drunk effect does not effect running enough to make it hard. |
| 21:47.33 | Rowne | It effects /seeing/. |
| 21:47.47 | Rowne | Try to find a place when you're maximum drunk. |
| 21:47.51 | Rowne | If there's a wall in your way? |
| 21:47.58 | Rowne | How can you tell that from the rest of the forest? |
| 21:48.07 | Rowne | Grom'gol would be the -perfect- place for this. |
| 21:48.15 | Rowne | Er, not Grom'gol. |
| 21:48.18 | Rowne | The nearby forest area. |
| 21:48.22 | kergoth | stranglethorn? |
| 21:48.23 | Rowne | Which I forget the name of. |
| 21:48.26 | Rowne | Stranglethorn! |
| 21:48.39 | Rowne | "Oh shit! I took a wrong turn and now I'm being attacked by Bahgthera, DRUNK!" |
| 21:48.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:48.55 | kergoth | i wish being drunk affected your ability to cast spells and stuff |
| 21:49.22 | Rowne | I wish casting had stuff like Ultima. |
| 21:49.37 | Rowne | "Azeroth Metrian *Hic*thos." *Armageddon!* "Oh shit ..." |
| 21:49.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:50.01 | Rowne | Yeah. That'd be a blast. |
| 21:50.14 | Rowne | Hmm ... |
| 21:50.22 | Rowne | I'm actually tempted to make this running Addon. :P |
| 21:50.46 | Rowne | We wouldn't even need to use any kind of communication. |
| 21:50.47 | MoonWolf | don't do it rowne |
| 21:50.49 | Rowne | We just monitor say ... |
| 21:50.55 | MoonWolf | you have blizzard stuff to optimize |
| 21:51.02 | Rowne | CHAT_MSG_SAY for; [Start Point: x,x] |
| 21:51.26 | Rowne | "Okay guys, you'll finish at [End Point: x,x]!" |
| 21:51.29 | Rowne | Something like that. |
| 21:51.47 | Rowne | Then it adds the MapNote at that point. |
| 21:51.53 | Rowne | And uses GetPlayerMapPosition to monitor for it. |
| 21:52.07 | kergoth | lag could be a problem |
| 21:52.09 | kergoth | "i win!" |
| 21:52.11 | kergoth | "no, i win!" |
| 21:52.16 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 21:52.27 | MoonWolf | back to mail chess ? |
| 21:52.27 | Rowne | You could have the player who wins auto-yell. |
| 21:52.36 | kergoth | itd have to be the run master make the determination |
| 21:52.39 | kergoth | the person running the race |
| 21:52.42 | kergoth | determines the winner |
| 21:52.49 | Rowne | No, I'm actually going to make this ... I think. |
| 21:52.51 | kergoth | s/run m/race m/ |
| 21:52.55 | MoonWolf | oh god. |
| 21:53.06 | MoonWolf | people running through stv. DRUNK |
| 21:53.13 | Rowne | And naked! |
| 21:53.18 | Rowne | That'd be a rule point, too. |
| 21:53.25 | Rowne | No weapons or armour or trinkets. |
| 21:53.31 | MoonWolf | or mounts |
| 21:53.35 | Rowne | Or mounts. |
| 21:53.42 | Rowne | We could use scanning for that, too. |
| 21:53.42 | kergoth | or ghost wolf |
| 21:53.47 | MoonWolf | or ghostwolf/druid travel. |
| 21:53.50 | Rowne | IF they equip an item or cast Ghost Wolf ... |
| 21:53.57 | Rowne | Or use Druid Travel ... |
| 21:54.05 | MoonWolf | rogue sprint |
| 21:54.06 | kergoth | then it yells out "I'm a cheating bastard! whee!" |
| 21:54.09 | Rowne | SendChatMessage("I'm a SKANKY FRIGGIN' CHEATER!", "YELL") |
| 21:54.09 | MoonWolf | running potion |
| 21:54.13 | kergoth | :D |
| 21:54.18 | MoonWolf | how about speed enchanted boots ? |
| 21:54.21 | MoonWolf | warrior charge |
| 21:54.24 | Rowne | They can't equip. |
| 21:54.27 | Rowne | So it won't matter. |
| 21:54.33 | Rowne | If they try to equip anything, it's cheating. |
| 21:54.37 | Rowne | That's why I said naked. |
| 21:55.18 | MoonWolf | shortcuts ? |
| 21:55.27 | kergoth | thatd be great, a guild could run a race like that, with the reward as cash or an item from the bank |
| 21:55.27 | Rowne | Those are legal. |
| 21:55.30 | Rowne | As long as they reach the end point first. |
| 21:55.32 | kergoth | nude, drunken guild races in stv |
| 21:55.35 | Tain | Syndrome teleport hack? :) |
| 21:55.47 | Rowne | We'd get ya banned, fellah. |
| 21:55.58 | Tain | Aww not again. :( |
| 21:56.04 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 21:56.28 | Rowne | How many times have you been banned, Tain? *Amused.* |
| 21:56.35 | Tain | Just once, 72 hour. |
| 21:56.42 | Rowne | For what? |
| 21:56.59 | kergoth | i miss autotravel. |
| 21:57.01 | Tain | I'll tell you later! I gotta run to an appointment. Be back in... a couple hours if you haven't gotten the patch yet, feel free. |
| 21:57.07 | kergoth | that really reduced the slow drudgery of travel in wow |
| 21:57.21 | Rowne | ker: KeyMinder + Nostromo n52 + AutoTravel Resurrection = No you don't. |
| 21:57.29 | kergoth | yeah, i know |
| 21:57.34 | kergoth | just havent used it since they changed that |
| 21:57.44 | Rowne | If I came back, I would. |
| 21:57.48 | Rowne | I'd use it until they banned me. |
| 21:57.50 | kergoth | i still have my routes, meticulously plotted, covers half of both continents |
| 21:57.55 | kergoth | backed up the .lua |
| 21:58.01 | Rowne | Likewise. |
| 21:58.06 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:58.08 | Rowne | Except I have both continents. |
| 21:58.13 | Rowne | Fully mapped. |
| 21:58.17 | kergoth | oh yeah, you're the explorer |
| 21:58.17 | Rowne | I've even mapped Dun'Morogh. |
| 21:58.18 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:58.19 | Rowne | As a Tauren. ;p |
| 21:58.30 | Rowne | It's funny running from eight low level guards. |
| 21:58.33 | kergoth | i never explored, so i only mapped areas i'd quested in, as boht alliance and horde |
| 21:58.34 | Rowne | "Piss off, I don't want to kill you!" |
| 21:58.51 | Rowne | *Run, click point, run, click point, run, click point ...* |
| 21:59.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:59.11 | kergoth | i bound add point to ` |
| 21:59.16 | kergoth | just ran around hitting it repeatedly |
| 21:59.25 | Rowne | I was more careful. |
| 21:59.38 | Rowne | I had the map open all the time. |
| 21:59.42 | Rowne | And I watched the lines being made. |
| 21:59.47 | kergoth | ah, thats cool |
| 21:59.51 | Rowne | If I was ever dissatisfied, I'd go back, add a point and reconnect them. |
| 21:59.52 | Rowne | Yes ... |
| 21:59.57 | Rowne | Running around Dun'Morogh, unable to see. |
| 22:00.00 | kergoth | i liked having shitloads of points around corners and things, so itd be smooth, as though i was walking it |
| 22:00.07 | kergoth | no jerkiness |
| 22:00.24 | Rowne | Heh, one of the reasons I quit was over the AutoTravel thing ... |
| 22:00.28 | Rowne | I was so mad at them for that. |
| 22:00.48 | Rowne | The thing is, I'm on a quest with a friend and my guild are talking to me, normally I have two options; |
| 22:01.01 | Rowne | 1) Ignore my Guild. 2) Walk off to goodness knows freaking where. |
| 22:01.12 | Rowne | I can either pay attention to the chat-frame or where I'm walking due to my sight. |
| 22:01.20 | kergoth | i liked to chat or whatever while i was on the way to wherever i'd be questing |
| 22:01.24 | Rowne | AutoTravel actually allowed me to ... well, talk to people. |
| 22:01.38 | kergoth | it was nice to go to the bathroom or get a drink while you were on the way, too |
| 22:01.41 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:01.50 | Rowne | I never used it for that, in honesty. |
| 22:01.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:01.55 | Rowne | I just used it so I could ... just talk. |
| 22:02.03 | kergoth | i remember plotting the route from the wetlands to ironforge |
| 22:02.06 | kergoth | thats a 25 minute walk |
| 22:02.16 | Rowne | You know another thing that could help? |
| 22:02.33 | Rowne | If people in the game didn't walk like a paraplegic geriatric and if they added flight-paths to every damn village, town and city. |
| 22:02.41 | kergoth | heh, no kidding |
| 22:02.42 | Rowne | Also, I don't think they should charge for flight-paths. |
| 22:02.45 | Rowne | That's just taking the piss. |
| 22:02.51 | kergoth | i wouldnt mind traveling manually if it wasnt so damn slow to get everywhere |
| 22:02.57 | Rowne | I mean, EVERY other MMO out there I've tried has a complete travel system. |
| 22:03.02 | Rowne | And the travel system is free. |
| 22:03.10 | Rowne | Like, Ultima Online had markable stones. |
| 22:03.19 | Rowne | And City of Heroes has the mass-transit system. |
| 22:03.30 | Rowne | You should buy a one-time ticket for Wind-Riding then get to do it all the time. |
| 22:03.34 | kergoth | i should try city of heroes sometime |
| 22:03.45 | Rowne | I have more fun there but only with intelligent folks. |
| 22:03.55 | Rowne | It's a blast if you actually have roleplayers, really is. |
| 22:04.36 | Rowne | I still have fond memory of Carebot and his BESTEST BEST friend, a drug-addict anti-hero who followed my walking pharmaceutical around like a lost puppy. |
| 22:04.43 | Rowne | s/memory/memories/ |
| 22:04.55 | kergoth | i've never actually roleplayed. in person with d&d, or online, or anything else |
| 22:05.06 | Rowne | You don't have to. |
| 22:05.12 | Rowne | You can get away with being intelligent and being yourself. |
| 22:05.20 | Rowne | City of Heroes is pretty much current day, so it doesn't hurt. |
| 22:05.20 | kergoth | should try it sometime though |
| 22:05.27 | Rowne | You just have to ... not object to other people doing it. |
| 22:06.29 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 22:06.33 | Rowne | Release that game, damn you! Release it! I need a new adventure game. |
| 22:06.51 | MoonWolf | when was the last one released |
| 22:06.54 | MoonWolf | 3 weeks ? |
| 22:07.20 | Rowne | That's Fahrenheit. And it was more like a month. |
| 22:07.28 | Rowne | What's irking me most is this ... |
| 22:07.31 | Rowne | http://www.adventuregamers.com/screenshot.php?id=162&screen=3640 |
| 22:07.41 | Rowne | That's suggesting ... balance-fall! *Glee.* |
| 22:08.00 | MoonWolf | YAY |
| 22:08.01 | Rowne | Why is there an airship-thingy hovering over ... some American cityscape? I want to know! |
| 22:08.07 | MoonWolf | but its not chaosy enough ? |
| 22:08.18 | Rowne | Maybe that's just the -start- though. |
| 22:08.23 | Rowne | When cracks emerge in the balance. |
| 22:08.26 | Rowne | And things begin to slip through. |
| 22:08.30 | MoonWolf | i want intersecting buildings |
| 22:09.04 | MoonWolf | i want soldiers pointing guns at a crack in a wall that leads to some forest. |
| 22:09.07 | Rowne | It's SO not funny how beautiful this game is ... |
| 22:09.37 | Rowne | http://www.adventuregamers.com/screenshot.php?id=162&screen=3631 - Is it me or does that suggest an intersecting city? |
| 22:09.53 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 22:09.55 | Rowne | It looks like an Arabian town planted smack-dab in the middle of New York or something. |
| 22:10.10 | Rowne | So the balance DID fall! |
| 22:10.19 | MoonWolf | its too cheery |
| 22:10.21 | MoonWolf | to happy |
| 22:10.26 | MoonWolf | chaos does not look happy |
| 22:10.26 | Rowne | Not all of it. |
| 22:10.37 | Rowne | The Dreamscape, which I saw a video of, is really, really screwed up. |
| 22:10.53 | MoonWolf | Good! |
| 22:11.00 | Rowne | Oh and I haven't showed you the futuristic parts, yet. |
| 22:11.01 | Rowne | They're all grey and depressing. |
| 22:11.12 | Rowne | But they do having glowing HUDs! |
| 22:12.01 | Rowne | ... waugh. |
| 22:12.05 | MoonWolf | from the looks of it you get to change clothes too. |
| 22:12.16 | MoonWolf | http://www.adventuregamers.com/screenshot.php?id=162&screen=4413 |
| 22:12.20 | Rowne | I should stop tormenting myself with something that won't be released for months. |
| 22:12.20 | MoonWolf | bonzai buddy ? |
| 22:12.30 | Rowne | Hahahaha. |
| 22:13.09 | MoonWolf | that was all the screenies |
| 22:13.25 | MoonWolf | that i have not yet seen |
| 22:13.45 | Rowne | ES:4? Earth...thingy 4? The mech thing? |
| 22:13.54 | MoonWolf | Elder scrolls |
| 22:14.00 | MoonWolf | you know arena, morrowind |
| 22:14.05 | MoonWolf | daggerfall |
| 22:14.10 | Rowne | Oh! |
| 22:14.18 | MoonWolf | Oblivion |
| 22:14.30 | Rowne | I'm looking forward to that. |
| 22:14.46 | MoonWolf | patrick steward is doing voice acting... |
| 22:14.51 | MoonWolf | i hope he does the emperor |
| 22:14.55 | MoonWolf | also |
| 22:15.00 | MoonWolf | sean Bean |
| 22:15.04 | Rowne | The Emporer looks like Patrick Stewart too, doesn't he? |
| 22:15.09 | MoonWolf | and Terance stamp |
| 22:15.11 | Rowne | As far as I recall. |
| 22:15.14 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 22:15.18 | MoonWolf | don't remember |
| 22:15.20 | MoonWolf | he is bald though |
| 22:15.23 | Rowne | I wish they'd do a new Daggerfall type game, though. |
| 22:15.33 | Rowne | I miss the random generation stuff. |
| 22:15.44 | Rowne | I loved -walking- between towns and ending up at Goodness Knows Where. |
| 22:15.51 | MoonWolf | dagerfall was so buggy it was NOt funny anymore. |
| 22:15.52 | Rowne | Or just walking into a dungeon out in the middle of nowhere because It's There. |
| 22:16.03 | Rowne | Buggy yes but so, so much fun. |
| 22:16.18 | MoonWolf | rowne you could do that in morrowind too. |
| 22:16.26 | Rowne | Yeah but it wasn't random. |
| 22:16.28 | MoonWolf | damn there are still places in morrowind i have not yet found. |
| 22:16.30 | Rowne | After a week I knew Morrowind inside-out. |
| 22:16.36 | Rowne | I'm the explorer, remember? |
| 22:16.51 | Rowne | The first thing I did was explore it all. |
| 22:17.03 | Rowne | I loved those little Dwemer places. |
| 22:17.05 | MoonWolf | did you have the complete collection of vivec sermons ? |
| 22:17.12 | Rowne | It was like the Nautilus. |
| 22:17.18 | Rowne | I dunno but probably, I did every quest. |
| 22:17.23 | Rowne | It was a long time ago. |
| 22:17.32 | MoonWolf | it was no quest |
| 22:17.37 | MoonWolf | it was a personal thingy |
| 22:17.45 | MoonWolf | i had all 27 sermons of vivec |
| 22:17.50 | MoonWolf | and read every book i found |
| 22:18.07 | Rowne | I'm also looking forward to Gothic III. |
| 22:18.14 | Rowne | Gothic I had one of the most AMAZING Worlds I'd ever seen. |
| 22:18.16 | MoonWolf | I do hope oblivion will have good player housing. |
| 22:18.22 | MoonWolf | never played gothic. |
| 22:18.27 | Rowne | I mean ... the fact that you could go to the highest tower in the game ... and ... |
| 22:18.33 | Rowne | Unlike Warcraft, you could see out ... |
| 22:18.35 | id` | i g2g |
| 22:18.39 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 22:18.39 | id` | nn all |
| 22:18.40 | Rowne | You could almost see the entire colony. |
| 22:18.40 | id` | :) |
| 22:18.46 | MoonWolf | night. |
| 22:18.51 | Rowne | Oh and I'll tell you what else was wild ... |
| 22:18.52 | Rowne | Night id. |
| 22:18.57 | Rowne | The NPCs ... |
| 22:19.03 | Rowne | Unlike almost every other game I've played ... |
| 22:19.07 | Rowne | The NPCs ... had ... scripts! |
| 22:19.27 | MoonWolf | did they go in at night ? |
| 22:19.39 | Rowne | You could follow one guy, he'd get up, go to market, haggle, then he'd go grab lunch, then he'd play the lute for an audience, then he might go and do a little more haggling, then he'd go home to his OWN bed in his OWN house. |
| 22:19.49 | Rowne | -Every single NPC- did this. |
| 22:19.49 | kergoth | neat! |
| 22:19.55 | MoonWolf | wow! |
| 22:19.57 | Rowne | You could watch the peasants ... |
| 22:19.59 | MoonWolf | i missing out on games here |
| 22:20.00 | Rowne | They'd go out to the mines. |
| 22:20.03 | Rowne | You could watch them mining. |
| 22:20.08 | Rowne | You could actually talk with them and pester them. |
| 22:20.14 | Rowne | Then you'd watch them go to take a lunch break. |
| 22:20.17 | Rowne | They'd COOK their food. |
| 22:20.23 | Rowne | You'd see them roasting a lamb over a fireplace. |
| 22:20.29 | Rowne | And talking about things with each other. |
| 22:20.37 | Rowne | Then they'd get up, pick up their picks and go back to work. |
| 22:20.43 | Rowne | It was freaking amazing. |
| 22:20.47 | Rowne | Oh and they were smart ... |
| 22:20.53 | Rowne | Say you pull out a sword in a town in Morrowind. |
| 22:20.56 | Rowne | What happens, nothing, right? |
| 22:21.03 | Rowne | In Gothic, every NPC in sight range gets pissy and pulls theirs, too. |
| 22:21.08 | MoonWolf | you have a little less disposition |
| 22:21.10 | Rowne | "Put that away if you know what's good for you, arsehole!" |
| 22:21.11 | MoonWolf | or what it was called. |
| 22:21.34 | Rowne | The guards even walk up close to you and act threatening |
| 22:21.38 | Rowne | Leave it out too long and they attack! |
| 22:21.51 | Rowne | Oh and get this ... |
| 22:21.55 | MoonWolf | morrowind npc's were stupid. |
| 22:22.00 | Rowne | Let's say you're not sneaking and you just waltz into someone's house ... |
| 22:22.01 | MoonWolf | no doubt about it. |
| 22:22.08 | Rowne | And someone sees you, right? |
| 22:22.13 | Rowne | "What the HELL are you doing, that isn't your house! Guards!" |
| 22:22.14 | MoonWolf | ofcourse. |
| 22:22.33 | Rowne | And they get more frantic the longer you stay in there. |
| 22:22.40 | Rowne | And if someone sees you stealing their stuff, there's hell to pay. |
| 22:22.45 | Rowne | So the cool thing in Gothic is ... |
| 22:22.51 | MoonWolf | good npcs |
| 22:22.51 | Rowne | You can steal awesome stuff but you have to be smart. |
| 22:22.54 | kergoth | the neverwinter nights npcs in the cities used to do that, if you went into their houses |
| 22:22.55 | Rowne | You have to learn their routines. |
| 22:23.00 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:23.05 | Rowne | You have to watch a guy leave for work. |
| 22:23.16 | Rowne | You can then actually watch him leave through his own window. |
| 22:23.18 | Rowne | If you're careful. |
| 22:23.25 | Rowne | Wait until he's gone then start rummaging through his stuff in sneak mode. |
| 22:23.28 | Rowne | It was awesome. |
| 22:23.37 | Rowne | Oh and if you weren't good at sneaking, people would make fun of you. |
| 22:23.44 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:23.44 | Rowne | "*Laughs.* And what's THAT supposed to be?" |
| 22:23.45 | MoonWolf | One major assumption everyone makes when we do a new Elder Scrolls game is that it will be small. Everyone thought this about Daggerfall and Morrowind as well when we talked about them "being more focused." No Elder Scrolls game will ever be small. Ever. We make 'em big folks. We super-size them. Why? This is a question everyone asks us, "Why make them so damn big? You could make it small and most people still wouldn't finish it." |
| 22:23.55 | Rowne | Oh. |
| 22:24.00 | Rowne | You could do everything in Gothic too. |
| 22:24.01 | Rowne | You could mine. |
| 22:24.04 | Rowne | You could blacksmith. |
| 22:24.10 | Rowne | You could get meat from animals and make a campfire and cook it. |
| 22:24.15 | MoonWolf | could you coat weapons in poison ? |
| 22:24.15 | Rowne | Oh and get this ... |
| 22:24.19 | Rowne | This is one thing I loved ... |
| 22:24.33 | Rowne | Okay, there's this kind of ... Authoritarian place where you're not allowed to see the leader, right? |
| 22:24.37 | Rowne | He's kind of a mafia overload. |
| 22:24.41 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 22:24.46 | Rowne | s/overload/overlord/ |
| 22:24.47 | Rowne | Yeah. |
| 22:24.47 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:24.53 | kergoth | fat mafia boss is so fat, he's an overload! |
| 22:24.58 | Rowne | Yes. :p |
| 22:25.00 | Rowne | He's fat too. |
| 22:25.04 | Rowne | So I bribed the guards to let me in. |
| 22:25.11 | Rowne | I sneak around and I sneak into the compound. |
| 22:25.20 | Rowne | Then I made a mad dash for his throneroom. |
| 22:25.27 | Rowne | I found a good place to get a sniper shot with my crossbow from and shot him. |
| 22:25.30 | Rowne | I caught his shoulder. |
| 22:25.35 | Rowne | He was so shocked he dropped his freaking sword! |
| 22:25.40 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:25.41 | Rowne | That's the second-best sword in the game. |
| 22:25.45 | Rowne | So I ran like HELL ... |
| 22:25.47 | Rowne | I grabbed it ... |
| 22:25.54 | Rowne | And half-way through the game I had the second-best sword in the game. |
| 22:25.57 | MoonWolf | and died. |
| 22:25.59 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.00 | Rowne | No. |
| 22:26.05 | Rowne | I got away. |
| 22:26.10 | Rowne | I had to run like hell. |
| 22:26.12 | Rowne | I actually um ... |
| 22:26.22 | Rowne | I used the transform spell to turn into a beetle. |
| 22:26.25 | Rowne | And I scuttled under the fence. |
| 22:26.30 | Rowne | Because I was terrified. :p |
| 22:26.42 | Rowne | I hid until they all calmed down. |
| 22:26.45 | Rowne | Then I just walked away. |
| 22:27.17 | Rowne | You can actually transform into -loads- of things in that game. |
| 22:27.39 | Rowne | I love how the spells are lusted after, too. There's this one guy who really, -really- wants to try being a Wolf. |
| 22:27.44 | kergoth | man, itd be fun to get a job coding lua to control npc behavior |
| 22:27.46 | Rowne | I can't imagine his motives, really I can't. |
| 22:27.50 | kergoth | let someone else do the graphics |
| 22:27.55 | kergoth | just code the behaviors and ai |
| 22:28.04 | Rowne | Oh and there are some great cheats in it too. |
| 22:28.10 | Rowne | You can summon an entire band to play a rock concert. |
| 22:28.19 | Rowne | You can take the outfits of the people from the cutscenes that you can't normally get. |
| 22:28.21 | MoonWolf | that is a spell ? |
| 22:28.25 | Rowne | You can make everything Godzilla sized. |
| 22:28.29 | Rowne | Console cheats. |
| 22:28.32 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 22:28.37 | Rowne | And everyone reacts to these things! |
| 22:28.47 | Rowne | Oh, here's another great moment ... |
| 22:28.57 | Rowne | I was prowling around one canyon that I didn't know much about. |
| 22:28.59 | Rowne | So ... |
| 22:29.13 | Rowne | I ended up coming face to face with this Raptor. He snorts at me. I run like friggin' hell. |
| 22:29.24 | Rowne | Okay ... I run back out of the canyon and into a forest. |
| 22:29.29 | Rowne | It's almost impossible to lose the thing. |
| 22:29.32 | Rowne | So I jump into a stream. |
| 22:29.35 | Rowne | "Holy shit, it can SWIM!" |
| 22:29.44 | Rowne | All the mobs in the game can swim and have swimming animations. |
| 22:29.49 | Rowne | So I crawl out and continue running. |
| 22:30.00 | Rowne | "Oh, I know, that ranger guy I met earlier, he's powerful, he'll save me!" |
| 22:30.04 | Rowne | So I run to the ranger guy's hut. |
| 22:30.09 | Rowne | He's there drinking a bottle of hops. |
| 22:30.23 | Rowne | *Drops the hops.* "OH SHIT! I um ... I don't have the right ... weapon! *Flees.*" |
| 22:30.26 | Rowne | "Come back you cowardly bastard!" |
| 22:30.46 | MoonWolf | you died ? |
| 22:30.47 | Rowne | So both of us are legging it from this Raptor now, myself and an NPC. :p |
| 22:31.11 | Rowne | The Raptor takes him on and starts mauling him. He manages to wound the Raptor and get away. The Raptor turns his sights back on me. |
| 22:31.13 | Rowne | So ... |
| 22:31.20 | Rowne | I run for a cliff and just manage to jump and clamber up on it. |
| 22:31.25 | Rowne | The Raptor can't jump that high! |
| 22:31.32 | Rowne | So I'm like ... neener-neener-neener, you can't get me! |
| 22:31.36 | Rowne | And it's jumping and roaring at the bottom. |
| 22:31.47 | Rowne | So I take out my crossbow and start taking potshots at it. |
| 22:32.05 | Rowne | Then the ranger runs back in; "I'LL SAVE YOU!" and strikes the last blow, claiming the experience. |
| 22:32.05 | Rowne | "YOU BASTARD!" |
| 22:32.21 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:32.40 | Rowne | Gothic is full of moments like that, I swear. |
| 22:32.49 | Rowne | And it has this beautifully crafted World full of things. |
| 22:32.59 | Rowne | Like, there are waterfalls with cave networks hidden behind them. |
| 22:33.02 | MoonWolf | he claimed xp ? |
| 22:33.03 | Rowne | All sorts of stuff to discover. |
| 22:33.07 | Rowne | Yes! |
| 22:33.13 | Rowne | The NPCs can gain xp. :p |
| 22:33.41 | Rowne | I had an escort at one point and he was helping me to get to this one place and the XP was shared between me and him. |
| 22:33.50 | MoonWolf | so you could have like an uber peasent of doom ? |
| 22:33.51 | Rowne | Oh and the escorts are REALLY freakin' smart. |
| 22:34.04 | Rowne | They'll run off ... go kill a mob and then come find you and continue to escort. |
| 22:34.21 | Rowne | Oh and the escort wasn't just a peasant. |
| 22:34.23 | Rowne | He was a cultist. |
| 22:34.26 | Rowne | They wanted me to join. |
| 22:34.32 | Rowne | I was promised much bong-hitting. |
| 22:34.37 | Rowne | They had bongs everywhere in that camp, I swear. |
| 22:34.49 | MoonWolf | could you get high too ? |
| 22:34.52 | Rowne | Yup. |
| 22:34.55 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:34.56 | Rowne | And drunk. |
| 22:35.07 | kergoth | i need to spend some quality time with lua, construct a decision tree for a virtual npc |
| 22:35.10 | Rowne | Oh and you could smoke weed! |
| 22:35.12 | kergoth | play around with fuzzy logic and stuff |
| 22:35.15 | Rowne | There were rolled up packets of weed. |
| 22:35.16 | Rowne | I swear. |
| 22:35.26 | MoonWolf | kergoth, how fuzzy logic could you take lua ? |
| 22:35.26 | Rowne | The camps traded stuff to the cult for weed often. |
| 22:35.27 | Rowne | I shit you not. |
| 22:35.43 | MoonWolf | in morrowind you had one drug |
| 22:35.45 | MoonWolf | skooma |
| 22:35.46 | Rowne | I mean, hell, there's a quest to collect weed. :p |
| 22:35.57 | MoonWolf | made out of some suger. |
| 22:36.05 | MoonWolf | but you could not actually get high |
| 22:36.05 | Rowne | Yeah but they obfuscated that. |
| 22:36.08 | Rowne | In Gothic ... |
| 22:36.11 | kergoth | MoonWolf: well, you'd need code that writes or modifies itself, or mutates |
| 22:36.13 | Rowne | They actually are drug-addicts. |
| 22:36.21 | kergoth | MoonWolf: you could probably make it happen with lua without too much difficulty, i'd think |
| 22:36.25 | kergoth | i havent messed with such things much |
| 22:36.30 | MoonWolf | when you drank skooma you got a speed boost and a int drop for a while |
| 22:36.31 | MoonWolf | that was it. |
| 22:37.01 | Rowne | Hee, I gotta go on a bit. |
| 22:37.03 | kergoth | that should make it so you can get hooked on it. suffer from withdrawl symptoms and stuff |
| 22:37.05 | Rowne | The making of stuff in Gothic was awesome. |
| 22:37.11 | kergoth | s/that/they/ |
| 22:37.14 | Rowne | Because you didn't just have the resources and click make ... |
| 22:37.21 | Rowne | You actually had to take a rough sword and use it on a grinding wheel! |
| 22:37.34 | Rowne | Oh and the NPCs did this too. |
| 22:37.40 | Rowne | You could actually watch an NPC make swords. |
| 22:37.44 | Rowne | They'd melt the metal. |
| 22:37.48 | Rowne | Bang on it over an anvil. |
| 22:37.50 | Rowne | Cool it in water. |
| 22:37.53 | Rowne | Then go and grind it down. |
| 22:38.07 | MoonWolf | btw, speculated specs for the dev machines the es 4 people use |
| 22:38.08 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.08 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.08 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.13 | Rowne | More coolness; if you sell a weapon to someone, if it's better than their weapon ... they equip it! |
| 22:38.24 | MoonWolf | morrowind npcs did that too. |
| 22:38.35 | Rowne | If you drop a weapon, someone will actually run along and pick it up if it's better than their weapon. |
| 22:38.46 | MoonWolf | did not do that. |
| 22:38.49 | Rowne | Also, if you wield a stolen weapon near it's original owner, some of them will get really pissy. |
| 22:39.01 | Rowne | "Oh, so you think that's funny do you? I'll just have to come and break your fingers for you." |
| 22:39.16 | MoonWolf | they get pissed of there bad. |
| 22:39.27 | Rowne | Oh and ... |
| 22:39.30 | Rowne | Another thing ... |
| 22:39.40 | Rowne | Just like in Warcraft, Gothic was the -first- game to have a completely solid World. |
| 22:39.47 | Rowne | Only if you entered one set of mines did it load. |
| 22:39.51 | Rowne | Everything else was preloaded. |
| 22:40.00 | Rowne | Into houses, into castles, across the damn World, no loading. |
| 22:40.16 | Rowne | And I'll tell you something for nothing ... Gothic's World is a HELL of a lot more complex than Warcraft's. |
| 22:40.19 | Rowne | Especially in Gothic II. |
| 22:40.58 | Rowne | I mean, comparing Gothic's World and Warcraft's World is like comparing Lego and ... that ... complex lego-like stuff that I can't remember the name of right now. ;p |
| 22:41.14 | MoonWolf | kńex ? |
| 22:41.18 | MoonWolf | k'nex even |
| 22:41.18 | Rowne | That's the stuff. |
| 22:41.25 | Rowne | Dammit, I want to play Gothic II, now. :p |
| 22:41.29 | Rowne | Oh and Gothic III looks awesome. |
| 22:41.32 | MoonWolf | you sound in love. |
| 22:41.34 | Rowne | It has Dinosaurs! |
| 22:41.39 | Rowne | I love immersive Worlds. |
| 22:41.42 | Rowne | What can I say? |
| 22:41.46 | Rowne | Warcraft was never that immersive. |
| 22:41.50 | Rowne | The NPCs are -dumb-. |
| 22:41.50 | MoonWolf | wow has dino's too. |
| 22:41.54 | Rowne | No. |
| 22:41.56 | Rowne | Not that kind. |
| 22:42.08 | MoonWolf | hey, lets be honest. wow has no real world interaction. |
| 22:42.10 | Rowne | I'm talking ... Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus Rex's here. |
| 22:42.14 | MoonWolf | k |
| 22:42.27 | Rowne | I mean, huge freaking towering T-Rex's. |
| 22:43.03 | Rowne | http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/616/616657/gothic-iii-20050518072812211-001.jpg - Gothic III, by the way. |
| 22:43.08 | Rowne | I drool, I SO drool. |
| 22:43.11 | kergoth | king whatshisface, that 60 elite in .. that one realm.. south of silithus.. is pretty towering |
| 22:43.23 | MoonWolf | bangalash |
| 22:43.38 | kergoth | thanks |
| 22:43.41 | Rowne | http://gamecenter.globo.com/GameCenter2/foto/0,,3428255,00.jpg |
| 22:43.45 | Rowne | I need to play this game ... |
| 22:43.57 | MoonWolf | wow |
| 22:44.02 | MoonWolf | you can kill those things ? |
| 22:44.07 | kergoth | thats beautiful |
| 22:44.07 | Rowne | Yes! |
| 22:44.17 | Rowne | -Every- Gothic is a monument. |
| 22:44.19 | MoonWolf | magic i suppose. |
| 22:44.24 | Rowne | An example which other games can only hope to follow. |
| 22:44.29 | Rowne | RPGs, anyway. |
| 22:44.35 | Rowne | Gothic is the like ... -the- single-player RPG. |
| 22:44.37 | Rowne | Nothing comes close. |
| 22:44.51 | Rowne | Do yourself a favour and buy Gothic II and you'll see what I mean. |
| 22:45.00 | Rowne | It's the only game where I've ever been robbed by a highwayman. |
| 22:45.06 | Rowne | Oh yes, that's another thing about Gothic. |
| 22:45.08 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 22:45.12 | kergoth | the only single player games i really play are adventures |
| 22:45.12 | MoonWolf | people rob you ? |
| 22:45.13 | Rowne | You don't get killed by humans. |
| 22:45.21 | Rowne | They knock you out and take most of your money. |
| 22:45.38 | Rowne | And if you're travelling around Gothic II at a low-level ... |
| 22:45.48 | Rowne | "I'm a highwayman! *Bonk!* ... augh, my head, my money! DAMN YOU!" |
| 22:46.00 | Rowne | You can knock out NPCs too and murder them, if you wish. |
| 22:46.08 | Rowne | People get -really- pissed though if you kill someone. |
| 22:46.17 | MoonWolf | and robbing ? |
| 22:46.22 | Rowne | You can rob them blind! |
| 22:46.27 | Rowne | You can take everything they have equipped. |
| 22:46.36 | Rowne | They can wake up with barely anything on. |
| 22:46.44 | Rowne | Oh and there're commentators! |
| 22:46.48 | Rowne | People actually TALK about your fight. |
| 22:46.51 | Rowne | As it's going on and when you win. |
| 22:47.03 | Rowne | "Oh, pfft. Why take on that guy? A strong breeze could knock -that- guy over!" |
| 22:47.30 | Rowne | Oh, another thing ... |
| 22:47.33 | Rowne | You can kill -everyone-. |
| 22:47.38 | Rowne | If you have the time and the resources. |
| 22:47.46 | Rowne | You can kill every human, every critter, everything. |
| 22:47.51 | Rowne | Even quest people. |
| 22:47.54 | Rowne | You can kill them all. |
| 22:48.01 | MoonWolf | you can do that in morrowind too. |
| 22:48.09 | MoonWolf | favourite of mine when i was really pissed |
| 22:48.14 | MoonWolf | levitate high as i can |
| 22:48.25 | MoonWolf | rip a huge range huge damage fireball |
| 22:48.32 | MoonWolf | bang everybody outside DEAD |
| 22:48.38 | Rowne | http://www.2404.org/gallery/d/12973-3/3.jpg - They must give me this game now! :p |
| 22:49.01 | Rowne | I fear to think of what you'd need to run it, though. |
| 22:49.02 | MoonWolf | Sacred anybody ? |
| 22:49.11 | MoonWolf | who played it ? |
| 22:49.39 | Rowne | http://100po100.ru/images/gothic_III_01_big.jpg - Oh and look how well crafted that tower is. |
| 22:49.43 | Rowne | I drool at that game. |
| 22:49.48 | Rowne | Actually, I'm going to dig out some Gothic II shots. |
| 22:49.55 | Rowne | That game is old now but I have to show you how beautiful that was. |
| 22:50.17 | MoonWolf | are you sure those are not static myst images ? |
| 22:50.18 | Rowne | http://gamesplus.in.ua/img/screenshots/006/6913.jpg |
| 22:50.22 | Rowne | Yes, there were mobs that big. |
| 22:50.30 | Rowne | Actually, that was average for Gothic II. |
| 22:50.31 | MoonWolf | ow |
| 22:50.46 | Rowne | http://www.armchairempire.com/images/Reviews/pc/gothic-ii/gothic-ii-2.jpg |
| 22:51.15 | Rowne | http://www.mbnet.fi/pelihalli/kuvat/uutiset/isot/gothicii-2.jpg |
| 22:51.32 | MoonWolf | does not look very special |
| 22:51.32 | Rowne | I think it's funny that Gothic II looks a -hell- of a lot better than Warcraft and it's much, much, much older than Warcraft. :p |
| 22:51.41 | Rowne | Yeah but Gothic II is old. |
| 22:51.53 | Rowne | And they had the visibility turned down in that shot for some reason. |
| 22:52.18 | Rowne | http://gothic.gamaxx.de/screenshots/shot4.jpg |
| 22:52.30 | Rowne | Now tell me that's not special. |
| 22:52.39 | MoonWolf | cool |
| 22:52.49 | Rowne | And that was Gothic II. |
| 22:53.08 | Rowne | http://gothic.gamaxx.de/screenshots/shot2.jpg - Yay! The tallgrasses. |
| 22:53.18 | MoonWolf | oblivion will beat ghotic 3 |
| 22:53.26 | Rowne | Graphics, yeah. |
| 22:53.29 | Rowne | Game? Doubt it. |
| 22:53.49 | Rowne | The Gothic guys have been making super smart NPCs since Gothic I. |
| 22:53.49 | MoonWolf | nps had a rehaul |
| 22:53.59 | Rowne | Yeah but it's what Gothic always had. |
| 22:53.59 | MoonWolf | npc's* |
| 22:54.03 | Rowne | So I don't see the big deal. |
| 22:54.15 | Rowne | I suspect that Oblivion NPCs might almost be as smart as Gothic I NPCs. |
| 22:54.45 | Rowne | Oooh, I have to show you this. |
| 22:54.47 | Rowne | http://gothic.gamaxx.de/pics/drachenjaeger.jpg |
| 22:54.50 | Rowne | That was one of the armour sets from Gothic II. |
| 22:55.00 | Rowne | I -had- that one. It was beautiful. |
| 22:55.44 | MoonWolf | is that a dwarf ? |
| 22:55.54 | Rowne | No, it's just a badly scaled image. |
| 22:56.42 | Rowne | Bah. Crap screenshot quality but ... |
| 22:56.43 | Rowne | http://www.gothic.g4ce.pl/img/e3/01.jpg |
| 22:56.46 | Rowne | Yes, you could dual-wield. |
| 22:56.55 | Rowne | And you could dual-wield in first-person. |
| 22:57.13 | MoonWolf | how magic in gothic ? |
| 22:57.21 | MoonWolf | cause im not playing a melee as my first char |
| 22:57.23 | MoonWolf | in any game |
| 22:57.36 | Rowne | Well, if you bind it to keys, it's much the same as Warcraft -- but ... |
| 22:57.52 | Rowne | Which is much the same as Neverwinter Nights, come to think of it. |
| 22:57.55 | Rowne | You can also bind scrolls to keys. |
| 22:58.01 | Rowne | And there's like a ... how to explain it ... |
| 22:58.17 | Rowne | If you hold a key it brings up a disc, if you press a direction it goes to that segment of the spellcasting. |
| 22:58.27 | MoonWolf | like in nwn |
| 22:58.27 | Rowne | You can also speed-spellcast any spell that way. |
| 22:58.33 | Rowne | Sort of like NWN. |
| 22:58.35 | Rowne | But key-based. |
| 22:58.37 | Rowne | And faster. |
| 22:58.40 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 22:58.51 | Rowne | Yeah, you hold # and use the arrow keys. |
| 22:58.56 | Rowne | I wish I had that in Warcraft. |
| 22:59.01 | Rowne | And now I have an Addon idea. >.< |
| 22:59.06 | MoonWolf | I would really like too see a game that has verb based spells. |
| 22:59.18 | MoonWolf | you collect spell elements |
| 22:59.20 | Rowne | Ultima was the only thing that ever did that. |
| 22:59.25 | MoonWolf | like a fire rune. |
| 22:59.32 | Rowne | Oh, that! |
| 22:59.34 | MoonWolf | and a bolt rune |
| 22:59.35 | Rowne | Gothic does that. |
| 22:59.43 | Rowne | And it combines them with higher level spells. |
| 22:59.47 | MoonWolf | combine firebolt. |
| 22:59.57 | MoonWolf | but that is basic. |
| 23:00.07 | MoonWolf | i want to combine skeleton summon and dragon.... |
| 23:00.13 | Rowne | Heh, one thing I love about Gothic's casting though is polymorph. |
| 23:00.19 | Rowne | It was second only to Ultima Online but ... |
| 23:00.23 | Rowne | It was completely 3D. |
| 23:00.32 | Rowne | You could transform into almost every critter of the game, in full 3D. |
| 23:00.35 | Rowne | I loved being a bug. |
| 23:00.42 | Rowne | You could get to SO many neat places as an insect. |
| 23:00.59 | Rowne | People reacted to bugs, too. :p |
| 23:01.05 | Rowne | You could run under someone's foot and they'd freak out. |
| 23:01.11 | Rowne | So, so awesome. |
| 23:01.26 | Rowne | Gothic had living NPCs, really did. I doubt anything will ever come close. |
| 23:01.40 | Rowne | Oh, another cool thing? |
| 23:01.50 | Rowne | You beat up a Gothic NPC, they heal themselves when they get up after a fight. |
| 23:02.00 | Rowne | They can drink drinks, eat food, drink healing potions and cast healing spells. |
| 23:02.07 | Rowne | So aswell as casting a healing spell in battle ... |
| 23:02.15 | Rowne | They'll also cast one after battle and then wander off to lick their wounds. |
| 23:02.18 | Rowne | I was so impressed by that. |
| 23:03.02 | Rowne | Oh and guess what happens if you pull your sword on someone you beat? |
| 23:03.06 | Rowne | They whimper! |
| 23:03.09 | MoonWolf | they cower away |
| 23:03.23 | Rowne | "Aw c'mon man, I didn't mean it ... *Backs away slowly.* ... let's be reasonable about this, please?" |
| 23:03.59 | MoonWolf | then you run forward and slice and dice! |
| 23:04.03 | Rowne | If you've given everyone in the game a good beating, you can wander around like you own the place. ;p |
| 23:04.09 | Rowne | And yes, you can beat them up just for fun. |
| 23:04.49 | Rowne | In Gothic II though, it's almost impossible to do that with one of the paths, you're expect to uphold the law as a Paladin. |
| 23:04.53 | Rowne | Screw that, I went with the mercs. |
| 23:05.07 | Rowne | I do the good my gut tells me, not the good the law tells me. ;p |
| 23:05.15 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 23:05.22 | MoonWolf | that sword that gues looks nice |
| 23:05.27 | MoonWolf | it be a good thing if i have it. |
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| 23:05.54 | Rowne | Oh and Gothic II is -very- unforgiving by the way, in a good way. |
| 23:06.02 | Rowne | You have to find the best places to pick off low level mobs early on. |
| 23:06.10 | Rowne | You can run into high-level mobs RIGHT at the start if you do the right thing. |
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| 23:06.22 | Rowne | I remember crawling around an Earth elemental, hoping to hell I wouldn't catch the thing's attention. |
| 23:06.44 | Rowne | Then I did, so I ran back to the city and let the guards take care of it. I died mind you just as I got there. |
| 23:06.45 | Norque | morning all |
| 23:06.56 | Rowne | But it was nice to watch them dispatching it from my dead body on the ground. |
| 23:06.58 | Rowne | Hiya Norque. |
| 23:07.09 | MoonWolf | hi |
| 23:07.18 | Rowne | Oh and another thing with Gothic, most guards will only protect you if you pay them protection money. :p |
| 23:08.09 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 23:08.55 | Rowne | I always do ... |
| 23:09.05 | Rowne | Then I beat them up and take it back (and more) later, when I'm powerful. |
| 23:09.49 | MoonWolf | others subject now please. |
| 23:10.01 | Rowne | Okeydokey. |
| 23:10.24 | MoonWolf | lets talk about |
| 23:10.42 | MoonWolf | hack and slash rpgish games. |
| 23:11.05 | MoonWolf | aka. diable style games |
| 23:11.23 | MoonWolf | diablo* |
| 23:11.32 | MoonWolf | no wait, lets talk about diablo lore. |
| 23:11.33 | Norque | mouse killers? |
| 23:11.54 | MoonWolf | oh yeah, diable 1 was a mouse killer alright. |
| 23:11.54 | Norque | diablo had a story? :P |
| 23:12.09 | MoonWolf | diablo had STORY, read the damn manuals. |
| 23:12.15 | MoonWolf | the diablo manuals were pieces of art. |
| 23:12.46 | Norque | ahhh... never actually owned the game, never saw the manual :( |
| 23:13.50 | MoonWolf | http://www.blizzarduniverse.net/diablo.php?pid=4 |
| 23:13.51 | MoonWolf | here |
| 23:13.56 | MoonWolf | have some diablo lore |
| 23:14.09 | Norque | thankyou moonwolf |
| 23:15.52 | MoonWolf | i especially like the story behind the necromancers |
| 23:16.12 | MoonWolf | and well, the types of angels in diablo are awesome. |
| 23:16.26 | MoonWolf | if ever angels exsit they should have wings like that. |
| 23:16.57 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:18.05 | ToastTheif | is anyone using my addons and want to tell me what errors they get in 1.8? |
| 23:27.21 | ToastTheif | anyone ever hear of mezzy.com? |
| 23:29.10 | ToastTheif | WOW |
| 23:29.15 | ToastTheif | I wonder if this really works |
| 23:29.16 | ToastTheif | http://honor.trusecure.com/pipermail/firewall-wizards/2001-March/010504.html |
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| 23:47.12 | Cair | sorry, forgot I had this channel on autojoin |
| 23:47.23 | *** part/##ace Cair (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:47.29 | kergoth | .. |
| 23:47.44 | kergoth | guess we arent good enough to be on autojoin |
| 23:59.08 | kergoth | i'm impressed |
| 23:59.12 | kergoth | not many of the addons i use broke |
| 23:59.25 | Plorkyeran | yeah, I only had 4 break |
| 23:59.26 | kergoth | auctionsort exploded |
| 23:59.30 | Plorkyeran | but they all broke in annoying ways |
| 23:59.35 | Plorkyeran | auctionsort has an update |
| 23:59.38 | kergoth | ah good |
| 23:59.41 | kergoth | havent checked the sites yet |
| 23:59.59 | Plorkyeran | basically all bar mods have issues, but it's easy to fix |
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