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| 01:06.22 | kd3 | grrs at the interface maps |
| 01:15.55 | Cooobra | not working still? |
| 01:23.14 | kd3 | my tools aren't coping with the new mpqs all that well |
| 01:23.31 | kd3 | neither is blizz's, but that's not a surprise. >.> |
| 01:24.21 | pcj | does the interface customization kit work at all? |
| 01:24.39 | kd3 | it does, but it pulled 12635 (the day-0 streaming build) |
| 01:24.45 | kd3 | the email I sent out for 12694 is bogus |
| 01:25.05 | kd3 | it's still only pulling build 12635's data now |
| 01:26.27 | pcj | gay |
| 01:26.48 | kd3 | I've poked the tools guys, but they know already, I'm sure |
| 01:28.27 | g0urra | also lol @ the worldmap WorldMap not working |
| 01:45.00 | kd3 | eesh |
| 01:45.02 | kd3 | instance maps |
| 01:45.19 | kd3 | blackrock spire has 7 floors |
| 01:46.13 | Cooobra | fun fun |
| 01:46.21 | Cooobra | you see how many SFK has? |
| 01:46.29 | kd3 | sec, I'm in the Ds atm |
| 01:46.40 | pcj | yeah coding them is going to be fun |
| 01:47.15 | Cooobra | Hmm.. looks like warriors no longer have Heroic Strike.. was changed to just plain Strike |
| 01:47.31 | pcj | warriors never were heroes |
| 01:47.56 | Cooobra | lol |
| 01:48.42 | Cooobra | though.. would be nice if every time I logged on my warrior I didn't have to retrain the talents to get their spec's special ability.. |
| 01:50.53 | Cooobra | actually.. it would be nice if the talents were just reset, rather than having to unlearn and re-talent point them to just get the special ability |
| 01:51.00 | kd3 | oops |
| 01:51.38 | Cooobra | ok kay.. who'd you kill |
| 01:51.48 | kd3 | mulgore: Layer71.blp, Layer7copy*.blp |
| 01:51.54 | kd3 | among others |
| 01:53.47 | kd3 | cripes... sfk has 7 floors |
| 01:53.47 | kd3 | wtf |
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| 01:55.30 | kd3 | only one floor for ST? |
| 01:56.19 | Cooobra | ST doesn't have all those inner rooms like SFK i guess |
| 01:56.57 | kd3 | my internal map of ST is a bit more complicated than that... |
| 01:57.03 | kd3 | still hasn't look at the stitched-together image yet |
| 01:57.26 | Cooobra | oh... I see.. warriors start with Strike now, and get Heroic Strike at level 12 |
| 01:59.34 | kd3 | oh-hoh... smart. I like the ubrs/lbrs map |
| 01:59.37 | kd3 | will be uploading in a few |
| 02:00.44 | Cooobra | I think g0urra beat you to it, for most of them |
| 02:01.21 | Cooobra | are they labeled as WorldMap or InstanceMap? |
| 02:01.33 | kd3 | I'll be putting them up as InstanceMap-<foo> |
| 02:01.59 | Cooobra | sounds good |
| 02:02.02 | pcj | hmm |
| 02:02.16 | pcj | i thought they were in the files as worldmap? |
| 02:02.34 | kd3 | they are, but look at convention for what got uploaded for the wrath maps |
| 02:03.03 | pcj | the convention for all coord-safe maps is to keep them the way they are in-game regardless of how accurate or convention-following they are |
| 02:03.27 | kd3 | WorldMap-<in game name>.jpg / InstanceMap-<in game name>.jpg |
| 02:03.32 | kd3 | is the convention at present |
| 02:03.59 | pcj | yes, even when there is a misspelling in the in-game name or if it's like Expansion01 etc |
| 02:04.05 | kd3 | yar |
| 02:04.19 | kd3 | oh, darnassus is fixed, finally |
| 02:04.26 | pcj | pfft |
| 02:04.28 | kd3 | now azshara's the only major misspelling left |
| 02:04.47 | Cooobra | they misspelled the map for gnomer |
| 02:05.03 | pcj | changing hillsbrad + alterac coords to hillsterac coords is going to be fun |
| 02:05.32 | kd3 | ok good... they didn't mess with my head. there's more maps to ST, they just didn't ship them all this build |
| 02:05.39 | Cooobra | can't wait to see the map for it... probably Hillsbrad1 Hillsbrad2 LOL |
| 02:05.53 | pcj | why did they do it anyway |
| 02:06.29 | Cooobra | seems like they were going to do the same with duskwood and deadwind pass |
| 02:06.58 | pcj | that makes more sense |
| 02:07.06 | pcj | there is basically just kara in deadwind pass |
| 02:07.11 | pcj | alterac has quests and stuff |
| 02:07.34 | kd3 | oh wtf, they did misspell gnomer |
| 02:07.35 | Cooobra | probably because every quest you get for alterace comes from hillsbrad |
| 02:08.35 | pcj | not every quest |
| 02:08.57 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Perenolde_Tiara |
| 02:09.10 | Cooobra | almost all quests |
| 02:09.54 | pcj | there's also all the syndicate stuff |
| 02:09.59 | Cooobra | Seems silly to add the mountain area in a zone named foothills |
| 02:10.15 | kd3 | it's probably just getting renamed 'hillsbrad' |
| 02:10.21 | Cooobra | thats what I was thinking |
| 02:10.48 | Cooobra | least it will make their map name |
| 02:12.11 | Cooobra | though.. that's misspelled too |
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| 02:19.59 | Cooobra | Bliz sure loves the poo... theres a coffin near an outhouse in Brill... apparently someone decided they couldn't wait for the outhouse to be available |
| 02:21.21 | Cooobra | and... worse yet.. its a new model of poop, its not the old ogre one they continually use ... this one has flies |
| 02:22.16 | pcj | the coffin is poop? |
| 02:22.40 | Cooobra | the coffin has poop |
| 02:22.55 | pcj | /confused |
| 02:23.06 | Amarande | Cooobra: given that it's Brill, there's probably plenty of disgustingly stinky stuff around already anyway. :) |
| 02:23.54 | pcj | why does [[Worgen (playable)]] say the racial capital is darnassus |
| 02:23.54 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Worgen_(playable) |
| 02:24.26 | Cooobra | should be blank.. cause they technically have none |
| 02:24.36 | pcj | stormwind if any i should say |
| 02:24.41 | pcj | just like goblins and orgrimmar |
| 02:24.50 | kd3 | genn's in stormwind, but the worgen district is in darnassus |
| 02:25.01 | Cooobra | thats confusing |
| 02:25.14 | pcj | but if someone wants to kill the racial leader they go to SW |
| 02:25.31 | pcj | i suppose the real question is what is that supposed to denote |
| 02:25.44 | kd3 | we could say 'gilneas city (in exile)' |
| 02:25.52 | pcj | indeed |
| 02:30.17 | pcj | erm kd3 bilgewater harbor is in azshara |
| 02:31.11 | kd3 | winces |
| 02:31.25 | Cooobra | I think it should be blank or 'None' with their base of operations in the places they now call home |
| 02:33.45 | Cooobra | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Coffin_in_Brill.jpg |
| 02:34.06 | pcj | template doc says it is only in-game, not lore |
| 02:34.18 | pcj | thank you for sharing Cooobra |
| 02:34.45 | Cooobra | which I find strange... since undead don't have to do that |
| 02:35.21 | pcj | maybe its a sign from deathwing |
| 02:35.30 | pcj | we know arthas dug up invincible shortly before wotlk |
| 02:35.36 | pcj | maybe deathwing pooped in their coffins |
| 02:35.48 | Cooobra | lol... I'm sure his poo would cover a building |
| 02:36.17 | pcj | oh |
| 02:36.23 | pcj | maybe its the scarlet crusade then |
| 02:36.57 | pcj | are they called the scarlet onslaught in the new SM? |
| 02:37.25 | Cooobra | did they update SM? |
| 02:37.30 | pcj | yes |
| 02:37.49 | Cooobra | during the new tirisfal glades quests they're still refered to as the crusade |
| 02:37.58 | pcj | hmm |
| 02:38.01 | kd3 | they're referred to as the crusade during the new quests |
| 02:38.13 | kd3 | the onslaught is only the faction that moved to northrend iirc |
| 02:38.28 | Cooobra | aye.. the rest of the faction was left behind |
| 02:38.37 | kd3 | it's not like the argent dawn/crusade thing. the dawn doesn't exist any more, it's all crusade now iirc |
| 02:38.52 | pcj | so you can't get AD rep from light's hope? |
| 02:38.55 | pcj | hmm |
| 02:39.14 | Cooobra | oddly enough.. there's still Argent Dawn people around.. even among the Argent Crusade |
| 02:39.25 | Cooobra | like at the Bulwark |
| 02:39.27 | Amarande | so is argent champion becoming a FoS? |
| 02:39.36 | pcj | dun dun DUN |
| 02:40.05 | Amarande | (and will it still be attainable even in cata, as long as you got exalted with the Dawn beforehand?) |
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| 02:40.38 | pcj | does anyone else have to enter their authenticator twice to get into beta |
| 02:41.25 | Cooobra | yes |
| 02:41.28 | pcj | gay |
| 02:41.28 | Cooobra | fun new bug |
| 02:41.51 | Cooobra | right now, my level 12 warrior has 200/3000 rep with Argent Dawn |
| 02:42.02 | pcj | AD rep is still not a FOS |
| 02:43.35 | Cooobra | I dislike actually getting the WotLK reps in the old world... in place of the Main faction... like it seems all quests at the border of Ashenvale and the Barrens gives Warsong Offensive rep rather than Org |
| 02:47.39 | Cooobra | can't wait to see Lillian Voss make another appearance |
| 02:47.44 | pcj | ugh light's hope is so confused if it is argent dawn or argent crusade |
| 02:51.28 | Cooobra | hmm.. SM seems the same to me so far... some of the bosses have voice acting now though |
| 02:51.44 | kd3 | a few of the sm cath pulls are different |
| 02:51.58 | kd3 | the quests are all in--{{Scarlet Monastery storyline}} |
| 02:51.58 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Scarlet_Monastery_storyline |
| 02:52.52 | Cooobra | You missed Vorrel's Revenge in the graveyard =P |
| 02:53.03 | kd3 | so fix it |
| 02:57.08 | Cooobra | looks like the statue in the graveyard was changed.. though it's been awhile... so i'm not sure |
| 02:59.53 | Cooobra | hawt tracking dogs actual dogs and not hyenas |
| 03:01.09 | pcj | cool you can mount in stratholme now |
| 03:04.14 | kd3 | wait, wait, vorrel's revenge is still in? |
| 03:04.18 | kd3 | o_O |
| 03:04.36 | Amarande | stratholme still level 60? |
| 03:04.40 | kd3 | no |
| 03:05.02 | kd3 | it's mid 40s |
| 03:05.16 | Amarande | wtf, you mean the plaguelands are 35-45 or so now? |
| 03:05.23 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/zones |
| 03:05.51 | kd3 | up-to-date as of today's blue posts and some poking of mine |
| 03:05.57 | Amarande | wow |
| 03:05.58 | Amarande | lemme guess |
| 03:06.02 | Cooobra | yep... he's still be tortured after all these years |
| 03:06.11 | Amarande | they decided to pare down on 50-60 areas because they gave in to people going to outland at 58 instead of 60 |
| 03:06.27 | Amarande | wonder if this means I'm going to have trouble getting new characters to 60-62 before outland now like I'm used to |
| 03:07.15 | Amarande | ok, this is weird with all these low level areas too |
| 03:07.23 | Amarande | are they going to increase the xp needed at low levels again? |
| 03:07.28 | kd3 | no |
| 03:07.28 | Amarande | since there's so many areas made low level now? |
| 03:07.39 | kd3 | the lowbie zones (outside of azshara) haven't changed |
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| 03:08.36 | Amarande | kd3: I'm thinking more the huge amount of stuff that's been added to the 20-40 band |
| 03:08.45 | Amarande | while 50-60 has been virtually gutted |
| 03:09.11 | kd3 | because the end-game isn't 60 any more |
| 03:10.00 | Amarande | or are they actively trying to *push* people into hellfire at 58, as opposed to it simply being a de facto player standard? |
| 03:10.17 | kd3 | depends on how blasted lands + silithus end |
| 03:10.20 | Amarande | like I said ... during wotlk, I could get to 62 or so easily without touching outland |
| 03:10.27 | Amarande | now I'm wondering if I'll be lucky to make 60 |
| 03:10.35 | kd3 | ...why? the xp's better in outland |
| 03:10.45 | Amarande | kd3: the aggro radius is a pain in the ass if you're not 60+ |
| 03:11.23 | squi | sint it better to do 5 mans for xp? |
| 03:11.33 | pcj | some people prefer questing |
| 03:11.34 | Amarande | I remember going there at 58 on my first character, a priest, after a guildie advised me to |
| 03:11.35 | kd3 | if you can tolerate the queue |
| 03:11.36 | Amarande | I did a little bit there |
| 03:11.42 | Amarande | and I was like AAAAAAAAGETMEOUTOFHERE |
| 03:11.54 | kd3 | that was your first toon. you know how aggro radii work now |
| 03:11.57 | squi | priests on their own? |
| 03:21.31 | Cooobra | bear form's swipe has a cd now =( |
| 03:24.24 | Fisker | slaps Cooobra around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:25.27 | Cooobra | bites large trout from Fisker's hands |
| 03:26.33 | Cooobra | so ... [[Quest:Right Under Their Noses]] ... they don't know Fairbanks is there? |
| 03:26.33 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Right_Under_Their_Noses |
| 03:26.52 | Amarande | Cooobra: how are bears going to tank now then? |
| 03:27.17 | Cooobra | with a fish |
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| 03:41.27 | Cooobra | I love that a gnome crashed one of those planes in the lake west of trisifal glades |
| 03:42.04 | kd3 | the hell? an ogre mage with one head? |
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| 03:43.20 | Cooobra | where |
| 03:43.23 | squi | can they still cast runes and flying eye at least? |
| 03:43.29 | kd3 | camp kosh, badlands |
| 03:43.58 | kd3 | I was of the impression that warrior-type ogres couldn't cast magic |
| 03:44.09 | kd3 | yet here are ogre magi (two-headed ones...) training them |
| 03:44.10 | kd3 | wth |
| 03:44.49 | Cooobra | grabs the rulebook |
| 03:45.06 | Cooobra | oh .. someone spilled jelly on that rule |
| 03:45.27 | Amarande | kek |
| 03:47.00 | Cooobra | Dalaran crater is now surrounded by arcane elementals |
| 03:47.21 | Cooobra | oh, it's covered with them |
| 03:48.13 | Cooobra | hmm... no more earth elementals though |
| 03:49.08 | Cooobra | OMG |
| 03:49.44 | kd3 | ah, goblin engineering at its finest: "A young lady came by [[Fuselight|our town]] not long ago, looking for compressed blasting powder, a tempered mithril bomb casing, and some safety goggles. Naturally, we had plenty of blasting powder and bomb casings to sell her, but the safety goggles were a little harder to find." |
| 03:49.44 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Fuselight|our_town |
| 03:50.00 | Amarande | heh, goblins |
| 03:50.07 | Amarande | plenty of boom for everyone, but no PPE :) |
| 03:50.08 | Cooobra | lol |
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| 03:50.42 | Cooobra | Hillsbrad Fields is no more =( |
| 03:51.20 | Cooobra | its now a forsaken prison camp... search lights, towers, and .. a cow |
| 03:53.50 | PrimalZed | every good prison camp needs a cow |
| 03:54.20 | Cooobra | apparently |
| 03:54.41 | Amarande | In Hillsbrad Fields, the poppies grow ... |
| 03:54.50 | Cooobra | ... the nearby bears are infested... at first I thought they had cotton tails... but good lord... |
| 03:54.57 | Amarande | Short days ago, we farmed this land, then the Horde came, and now we lie in Hillsbrad Fields |
| 03:55.44 | PrimalZed | Hillsbrad has probably had the Forsaken at their most sinister, aside from Putress' coup |
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| 03:56.01 | PrimalZed | killing the people of Hillsbrad Fields more or less for the hell of it |
| 03:56.13 | Cooobra | only bad thing about destroying most of Hillsbrad... the jokes in old hillsbrad won't make sense now.. and new players won't get it at all |
| 03:56.41 | PrimalZed | well there's stilt he ashbringer, and the SM kids |
| 03:57.12 | PrimalZed | I can't really bring myself to feel bad for new players not being able to experience old Azeroth as it is right now, though |
| 03:57.54 | PrimalZed | I'm sure the new stuff they put in would still be interesting, and obviously the quest design will be much improved |
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| 03:59.45 | kd3 | oh, this is going to end badly. a goblin curious about how black dragons procreate |
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| 04:00.48 | MasterOfDisguise | Apparently I was banned. :P |
| 04:01.00 | PrimalZed | yes, everyone hates you |
| 04:02.20 | Cooobra | oh silly Tog'thar and Drull.. at a horde outpost now.. but still chained to a ball |
| 04:08.46 | Ressy | sweet. 8 guild bank tabs |
| 04:10.38 | Amarande | how insanely much do tabs 7 and 8 cost? |
| 04:16.32 | Ressy | no clue. only mention of it is in a guild achievement. |
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| 04:41.06 | Cooobra | ... nasty and funny at the same time |
| 04:41.31 | Cooobra | Ettin make big piles of shit... looking at one right now.. has a skeleton of a gnome in it |
| 04:47.40 | Cooobra | Nice to see bliz thought ahead... theres many different paths to get back on the land in Gilneas from the water |
| 04:59.38 | Cooobra | Now thats an entrance... Bliz is finally doing something right with spiders |
| 04:59.59 | kd3 | purging them from the game? |
| 05:00.26 | Cooobra | HA |
| 05:00.43 | Cooobra | no.. thats bugs |
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| 20:12.26 | pcj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADhOt6qRlk |
| 20:19.11 | Fisker | slaps pcj around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:32.48 | pcj | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38710593/ns/world_news-weird_news |
| 20:34.27 | Fisker | not strange at all |
| 20:34.32 | Fisker | just book the parents for child abuse |
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