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00:31.45 | pcj | kd3 what are the new maps that need to be supported by {{coords}} |
00:31.45 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:coords |
00:31.56 | pcj | and how do you think i should implement the changed maps vs the old ones for now |
00:32.37 | kd3 | the replacement maps I intend to ignore (the ones I suffixed -cata to) until they go live. I'll put up a quick list of the new ones in a sec |
00:32.48 | pcj | ok ty |
00:33.08 | pcj | i was just thinking people might want to use coords to link to the new maps in quests and stuff |
00:35.13 | kd3 | maybe we could overload the "section" param for that? |
00:35.23 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
00:35.25 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/co|30|60|Elwynn|Cataclysm |
00:35.39 | foxlit | {{cco| imo |
00:36.01 | kd3 | would probably be the better solution, that |
00:37.57 | kd3 | [[User:Kaydeethree/Cata maps]] |
00:37.58 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Cata_maps |
00:38.22 | pcj | {{coco}} imo |
00:38.23 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:coco |
00:38.28 | kd3 | lol |
00:40.23 | KarlKFI|work | isn't it illegal to upload those? |
00:40.38 | Ressy | no |
00:40.41 | kd3 | no. the blizzard interface addon kit extracts them |
00:40.42 | Ressy | NDA's lifted. closed beta |
00:40.56 | KarlKFI|work | that has nothing to do with it ressy |
00:40.57 | kd3 | if blizz tools pull them out of the mpqs they're fair game |
00:41.11 | KarlKFI|work | fair game for unlimitted distribution? i doubt it |
00:42.01 | KarlKFI|work | granted, they havent sued anyone over it before... |
00:42.04 | kd3 | distribution per the fansite license, sure. I can't use them to make a 'world of kd3craft' with them |
00:43.46 | KarlKFI|work | fansite license covers stuff fromt he kit extractions? |
00:45.43 | kd3 | "Blizzard Entertainment® hereby grants you a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable and non- assignable license to use and display, for home, noncommercial and personal use only, one copy of any material and/or software that you may download from this site, including, but not limited to, any files, codes, audio or images incorporated in or generated by the software (collectively the "Downloaded Content") provided, however, that you must include or mainta |
00:45.43 | kd3 | in all copyright and other notices contained or associated with such Downloaded Content" |
00:45.58 | kd3 | key bit there is "including, but not limited to, any files, codes, audio or images incorporated in or generated by the software (collectively the "Downloaded Content")" |
00:46.14 | kd3 | 's sent some emails to legal before about this >.> |
00:46.49 | foxlit | "one copy", kd3 |
00:46.56 | foxlit | You've produced millions! |
00:47.07 | kd3 | whistles idly |
00:47.39 | KarlKFI|work | does the extracter come with the fansight download? |
00:47.46 | KarlKFI|work | fansite* |
00:47.58 | KarlKFI|work | i thought it was separate |
00:48.13 | kd3 | no, it's at worldofwarcraft.com/ui |
00:49.36 | KarlKFI|work | what if someone hotlinks a wiki image? |
00:49.47 | KarlKFI|work | froma commercial website |
00:50.04 | kd3 | they can go after the commercial website? |
00:50.43 | KarlKFI|work | but it's a non-transferable license.... |
00:51.23 | KarlKFI|work | anyway |
00:51.30 | KarlKFI|work | web laws suck |
00:51.36 | kd3 | yes, yes they do |
00:52.24 | KarlKFI|work | i'd be surprised if the fansite license covered the extracted content froma download on a different page |
00:52.35 | KarlKFI|work | unless that license also comes with the kit |
00:53.52 | KarlKFI|work | "incorporated in or generated by" the "Downloaded Content" doesn't refer to all content on wow's site |
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00:55.38 | KarlKFI|work | and does "for home, noncommercial and personal use only" mean it has to be all of those or any? |
00:55.55 | KarlKFI|work | and implies all |
00:56.24 | KarlKFI|work | which is obviously not what they meant, since webiste's are not 'home use' |
00:57.21 | KarlKFI|work | ont he otherhand you could probably blow up one of the images and hang it on your wall legally... |
00:58.43 | pcj | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/legal-faq.html |
00:58.47 | pcj | not restricted to the fansite kit |
01:05.01 | kd3 | image overload: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Cata_maps_compared |
01:07.14 | KarlKFI|work | mmm an errupting volcano |
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01:07.37 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: What were you planning to do with the objects categories? |
01:08.23 | Cooobra | We could probably leave them as is |
01:09.07 | Sky2042_afk | Ok, that's what I was thinking. |
01:10.09 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: Also, go download AWB, mon. |
01:10.33 | Cooobra | AWB? |
01:10.42 | kd3 | autowikibrowser |
01:10.49 | kd3 | a very useful tool for making mass edits |
01:11.22 | Cooobra | ah.. I guess I could .. make it easier for myself |
01:11.22 | Sky2042_afk | It's a semi-automated tool with a GUI. |
01:11.29 | Sky2042_afk | You can also run it in bot mode. |
01:11.30 | Sky2042_afk | Takes 30 minutes to set up, tops. |
01:11.35 | Sky2042_afk | Fresh out of the box. |
01:12.40 | Cooobra | picks packaging peanuts off self. |
01:13.12 | pcj | wow it takes you 30 minutes? |
01:13.32 | Sky2042_afk | Fresh out of the box. |
01:13.35 | Sky2042_afk | chides pcj. |
01:13.49 | pcj | you plug in the project, login data, boom |
01:13.51 | pcj | 5 minutes tops |
01:13.52 | Sky2042_afk | Ok, so it wasn't just me. They touched up all the old school maps. |
01:14.05 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: There are other preferences to poke away at. :P |
01:14.32 | pcj | not 30 minutes worth of prefs |
01:14.43 | Sky2042_afk | Oh, fine. 10 minutes. |
01:14.58 | Sky2042_afk | sighs at pcj for pushing his point of view when it didn't really matter in this case. |
01:15.42 | Ressy | it takes longer for approval to use the bot, than to set it up. |
01:16.01 | Sky2042_afk | kicks Ressy. |
01:16.06 | Ressy | :P |
01:16.10 | pcj | you're the one trying to make it sound simple then turn around and say it's longer to set up than most modern OS's |
01:16.13 | Sky2042_afk | Not with our glorious leader, kd3 here! |
01:16.53 | Sky2042_afk | kd3: Lack of Burning Steppes classic map, btw. |
01:17.06 | kd3 | blame the caches |
01:17.11 | Sky2042_afk | Mmm. |
01:20.25 | pcj | kd3 what about instance maps |
01:20.31 | kd3 | none as of yet |
01:21.25 | kd3 | tanaris/un'goro/silithus/winterspring are also not yet done, as are the other new zones |
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01:24.52 | Cooobra | Looks like the north pass in Dun Morgh is destroyed |
01:26.41 | Sky2042_afk | Huh. |
01:26.52 | Sky2042_afk | They moved RFD to 1KN |
01:26.58 | kd3 | yes |
01:27.06 | kd3 | I've been waiting for the nda to get lifted so I could fix that |
01:27.12 | kd3 | tabs open the cata article |
01:27.16 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
01:29.44 | Sky2042_afk | loch modan is missing. |
01:29.47 | Sky2042_afk | Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
01:29.58 | Sky2042_afk | Is the dam still standing? |
01:30.08 | kd3 | it went ka'boom |
01:30.15 | Sky2042_afk | \o/ |
01:30.15 | kd3 | quests aren't in yet for LM, so we dunno why |
01:30.21 | kd3 | probably cultists |
01:30.33 | Sky2042_afk | You can see the rubble in the Wetlands map. |
01:30.37 | kd3 | yar |
01:31.12 | Sky2042_afk | Does Grim Batol have its own map? It's not on the Wetlands map. |
01:31.24 | kd3 | it's going to be on the twilight highlands map |
01:31.29 | Sky2042_afk | mmhmm |
01:31.37 | kd3 | which I hope gets split like vashj'ir did. it's a freaking gigantic zone |
01:32.49 | Sky2042_afk | Wait, can we get to the Dun Morogh airfield? |
01:33.01 | kd3 | yes. there's quests up there now |
01:33.13 | kd3 | and a free puddlejumper from the quarry |
01:33.41 | Sky2042_afk | From the quarry? o.o |
01:33.43 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
01:33.59 | kd3 | gol'bar? there's a flight path out there too now |
01:34.04 | kd3 | ooh, need to post the updated flight path list |
01:34.11 | kd3 | there's 484048 new flight paths everywhere now |
01:34.25 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
01:36.07 | pcj | un'goro? |
01:36.12 | kd3 | nyi |
01:37.07 | pcj | anyone gotten a beta invite yet |
01:37.29 | Ressy | the FP for the airfield is already in live. |
01:37.48 | kd3 | there's a roost, but no flight master |
01:37.52 | Ressy | ah |
01:37.59 | kd3 | still does expeditions up there on occasion |
01:38.02 | Ressy | lol |
01:39.28 | Gnarfoz | for that matter, Karazhan has both a roost and a third instance portal, neither of them functional, of course |
01:39.57 | pcj | did they finally get rid of the extra portals in SW? |
01:41.03 | Gnarfoz | the old "here be player housing some day" one? |
01:41.08 | Sky2042_afk | From the map, it looks like it pcj. |
01:41.09 | pcj | and the stormwind vault |
01:41.18 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't have a portal |
01:41.27 | pcj | the one behind the gate with the guards |
01:41.32 | Gnarfoz | or rather, you couldn't see it if it has one |
01:42.00 | kd3 | pcj; the player housing bit is gone, the other dungeon is still there and still locked off |
01:42.16 | kd3 | stormwind's been pretty well completely redone. the new keep's neat |
01:42.32 | Gnarfoz | the new park, too, lakes and all |
01:43.04 | Gnarfoz | I just hope they don't let that "chewed off" corner of SW be like that for the NEXT 5 years. |
01:43.22 | pcj | haha |
01:43.34 | pcj | maybe they'll hire some stonemasons or something |
01:43.36 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they'll use the terrain phasing stuff to make the passage of time a BIT more visible |
01:43.48 | kd3 | laughs hard at the lakeshire bridge |
01:44.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, finally done, lol |
01:44.14 | Gnarfoz | only took, what, 7 years? |
01:45.05 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
01:45.11 | Sky2042_afk | Hey, remember what they're building with! |
01:45.13 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
01:54.30 | kd3 | ok. the graphical maps comparison should have every zone |
01:54.36 | kd3 | afaict |
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01:54.54 | LucidFox | Buh\ |
01:55.00 | LucidFox | does nobody post at the forum anymore? |
01:55.23 | pcj | what? |
01:56.38 | pcj | what about isle of quel'danas kd3 |
01:57.08 | kd3 | it's on the outland map. none of the five (seven) zones have changed yet |
01:57.35 | pcj | weak |
01:58.15 | Eraclito | well, kd3 |
01:58.21 | Eraclito | actually tor'watha is gone |
01:58.27 | Eraclito | and there's an outdoor zul'aman zone |
01:58.29 | pcj | why are there two NYI for stranglethorn vale |
01:58.46 | kd3 | it's two zones now. northern stranglethorn and the cape of stranglethorn |
01:58.53 | kd3 | it got split like the barrens did |
01:58.57 | pcj | good |
01:59.01 | Eraclito | and there's a brand new east coast in quel'thalas :> it isn't here, in live |
02:00.03 | kd3 | oh, huh. I haven't flown up there in a few builds |
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02:05.53 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: Here's a thought: For all quest givers who also end the quest, swap "Quest givers" and "Quest enders" for "Quest givers and enders" |
02:06.38 | LucidFox | My question on the forum was |
02:06.49 | LucidFox | Should the article "Cataclysm" be about the in-universe Cataclysm event? |
02:06.56 | LucidFox | We do need an article about it, after all |
02:07.04 | pcj | no |
02:07.10 | pcj | Cataclysm (event) |
02:07.11 | Sky2042_afk | I'm thinking yes. |
02:07.14 | kd3 | ^ |
02:07.18 | Sky2042_afk | Or that. |
02:07.20 | kd3 | er, ^ at pcj |
02:07.31 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
02:07.35 | pcj | ^ |
02:07.37 | Sky2042_afk | :D |
02:07.45 | LucidFox | Okay, I'll create Cataclysm (event) then |
02:09.09 | LucidFox | Second question: since 3.9.0 has been confirmed, should it be inserted between 3.3.5a and 4.0.0? |
02:09.36 | Cooobra | we'll wait, till it happens |
02:09.39 | Sky2042_afk | ughs at 3.9.0 |
02:09.46 | kd3 | if they actually call it that. we had it for a while, then we deleted it because stuff changed |
02:09.55 | kd3 | right now it's on 3.3.5 (undoc) |
02:10.52 | LucidFox | the latest lore answers bluepost referred to "content patches 3.3.5 and 3.9.0", not that anything is known about the latter |
02:11.20 | Sky2042_afk | We know. |
02:11.31 | Sky2042_afk | This was actually brought up on [[talk:patch 3.9.0]] |
02:11.31 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/talk:patch_3.9.0 |
02:11.43 | LucidFox | nods |
02:12.09 | LucidFox | What about articles about locations that were renamed in Cataclysm? Such as X -> Ruins of X |
02:12.44 | kd3 | create the new article now... make a pointer in the old article saying something to the effect of 'big changes in cataclsym, see [[foo]]' |
02:12.44 | Dotted | kd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/foo |
02:12.48 | Sky2042_afk | Redirect "Ruins" to the other, I would think, until Cataclysm is out. |
02:13.23 | Sky2042_afk | Hmm. |
02:13.33 | kd3 | oh, who was asking about northgate in dun morogh? |
02:13.36 | kd3 | it's still there right now |
02:17.48 | Cooobra | oh the new map makes it look like an avalanche hit it |
02:17.55 | Cooobra | or something |
02:20.04 | Cooobra | oh I see what they did... |
02:20.49 | pcj | of course blizzard changes the naming scheme for multiple maps |
02:21.04 | Sky2042_afk | chuckles at pcj. |
02:21.10 | Sky2042_afk | I saw that as an issue. |
02:21.25 | pcj | well we'll see how instance maps are handled |
02:22.04 | LucidFox | And for a particularly odd example, I created [[Feathermoon Stronghold (new)]], which is now set to be merged, even though it's a different one. |
02:22.05 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Feathermoon_Stronghold_(new) |
02:25.29 | Bibi | people talking in my wiki? wtf? |
02:25.56 | Bibi | did they release a new ad technology or something??? |
02:26.01 | Bibi | ok now seriously. http://i.imgur.com/4p57u.jpg |
02:26.10 | Bibi | not sure if that's you, but just a head's up |
02:26.13 | kd3 | grr |
02:26.18 | kd3 | fires off another email to support |
02:26.24 | kd3 | s/support/the ad guys/ |
02:26.38 | kd3 | someone on the wow forums was complaining about a bad ad too |
02:28.40 | Ressy | ouch |
02:28.57 | pcj | bibi i found the problem |
02:29.01 | pcj | you're using internet explorer |
02:29.07 | Ressy | lol |
02:29.08 | Bibi | I'm not |
02:29.09 | pcj | like IE5.5 or something |
02:29.13 | Bibi | it's someone's else report |
02:29.17 | Bibi | and I'm trying to be helpful. |
02:29.27 | Sky2042_afk | Tell him to upgrade. -.- |
02:29.28 | Bibi | I don't expect you to understand that last part, don't worry! |
02:29.37 | Sky2042_afk | That would be more helpful in the end. |
02:29.39 | Bibi | Sky2042_afk: he knows what he's doing, he just likes IE |
02:29.46 | pcj | he likes old IE |
02:29.49 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
02:29.50 | Bibi | yes |
02:29.53 | Bibi | he knows that. |
02:29.54 | Bibi | ^^ |
02:29.59 | Sky2042_afk | Idiot. |
02:30.02 | pcj | he's all like "I LOVE BEING INSECURE" |
02:30.10 | Bibi | he's one of my best developer, I wouldn't call him an idiot either |
02:30.12 | Sky2042_afk | 5.5 isn't even supported by M$ anymore, I don't think. |
02:30.16 | pcj | it's not 5.5 |
02:30.20 | pcj | i was using hyperbole |
02:30.23 | pcj | it's like 7 |
02:30.23 | Bibi | he runs his own WoW database :p |
02:30.25 | Sky2042_afk | sighs. |
02:30.28 | Sky2042_afk | kicks pcj. |
02:30.32 | Bibi | he just likes IE, really |
02:30.35 | Bibi | and I think that's IE7 yeah |
02:30.52 | Sky2042_afk | It is. |
02:31.14 | pcj | glad we settled that |
02:32.24 | pcj | i just don't know how anyone can be a developer and use IE |
02:32.29 | pcj | it's like... |
02:34.01 | Bibi | oh, the guy is batshit crazy |
02:34.14 | Bibi | he has a complete, multi language, wow database |
02:34.15 | Bibi | coded in C. |
02:34.17 | pcj | haha |
02:34.22 | pcj | i bet it's fast |
02:34.29 | Bibi | it's ridiculously fast |
02:34.44 | Bibi | and it's what I've been using for most of my patch tools for the past 3 years |
02:34.45 | Bibi | ^^ |
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02:35.36 | Bibi | kd3: need more info on that? or did you have anything you need in the forum post you mentioned? |
02:36.18 | kd3 | if he's got more info--the url of the bad js, it'd help. wikia buys their ads through a network. there's only so much tracking the ad guys can do |
02:36.46 | pcj | tell him if he logs in he won't get ads |
02:38.37 | kd3 | hm. just lost satellite. wonder how long til the dsl goes? |
02:40.07 | pcj | well where did you last see the satellite |
02:40.11 | pcj | try retracing your steps |
02:44.28 | pcj | why is the cleft of shadow suddenly not WorldMap-Orgrimmar terrain1.jpg |
02:44.30 | pcj | stupid blizzard |
02:48.21 | kd3 | because the terrain thing is a result of phasing. you don't get to choose which _terrain map displays |
02:50.46 | pcj | its a good point but it makes coding {{coords}} damn tricky |
02:50.46 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:coords |
02:51.43 | kd3 | if there's a _terrain map I'd suggest having the default be the highest-numbered one, as that's where most people will eventually be |
02:52.05 | pcj | good point |
02:54.37 | Sky2042_afk | What if an NPC only shows up in a certain phase? |
02:55.09 | pcj | i suppose i'll have to add a 5th parameter |
02:55.22 | pcj | err 4th |
02:55.36 | Sky2042_afk | |phase=? |
02:56.01 | pcj | yeah probably |
03:01.10 | Cooobra | Blizzard does this, just to make it more annoying for wowwiki and database sites =P |
03:02.21 | Ressy | lol |
03:14.10 | kd3 | hm... uberfuzzy's suggesting we post 'update your flash to stop the infections kthx' somewhere |
03:14.14 | kd3 | I'm inclined to agree with him |
03:17.20 | Cooobra | place it on the sitenotice thingy |
03:26.00 | Sky2042_afk | Hmmm |
03:26.02 | Sky2042_afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere&target=Patch_%28undocumented_changes%29 |
03:28.53 | Sky2042_afk | Ok, that's retarded. |
03:28.59 | Sky2042_afk | We have a fan fiction policy and a fan fiction guideline. |
03:29.01 | Sky2042_afk | -.- |
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03:30.17 | Cooobra | we have image policy and image guideline |
03:30.51 | Sky2042_afk | That's different though. That affects the entire wiki. |
03:30.53 | Sky2042_afk | :| |
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04:11.52 | Cooobra | i have a pally in my guild whom is eternally afk too |
04:14.15 | pcj | that's way too exciting |
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04:23.42 | vulture- | http://i.imgur.com/4p57u.jpg hey nice website guys |
04:24.30 | pcj | update flash |
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04:24.51 | vulture- | I dont have flash installed |
04:24.58 | pcj | kd3 he says he doesn't have flash installed |
04:25.02 | pcj | tell uberfuzzy to shove it |
04:25.21 | vulture- | its an ad containing an iframe linking to a javascript |
04:25.29 | Eraclito | also, get a real browser |
04:25.30 | pcj | vulture if you log in you don't get ads |
04:25.46 | vulture- | pff, extra work, little gain |
04:26.11 | kd3 | meh. but what's the js /doing/? |
04:26.19 | vulture- | its encrypted |
04:26.25 | vulture- | who knows |
04:26.41 | pcj | do you have the URL of the ad |
04:26.46 | vulture- | I did notice one thing it tries to do tho is exploit sun java vulnerability from a couple months ago |
04:26.50 | kd3 | anyway, my 90 minutes of sleep last night (yay nda getting lifted) has caught up with me. I'm about to crash. we've blacklisted the domain, and hopefully the ad network |
04:26.59 | kd3 | ya. I already passed it on to uber |
04:27.06 | kd3 | zzz |
04:27.18 | Cooobra | holds hand out towards kd3, waiting for key. |
04:27.24 | vulture- | yeah I was gonna zzz a couple hours ago till I got that and kaspersky made me reboot |
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04:35.17 | LucidFox | Okay, created Cataclysm (event) |
04:35.29 | Sky2042_afk | thumbs up. |
04:35.36 | Sky2042_afk | Get back to work, peon. |
04:35.40 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
04:36.18 | Sky2042_afk | What exactly qualifies someone as a "dark apothecary"? |
04:37.06 | Fisker | so kd3 |
04:37.07 | Cooobra | bad gas |
04:37.21 | Cooobra | went to bed |
04:37.32 | Fisker | i hear that Cooobra |
04:37.46 | Fisker | i'm passing some quite nasty gas right now |
04:37.47 | Sky2042_afk | Uh oh. |
04:37.48 | Cooobra | you mean you see that |
04:37.51 | Fisker | and i can't sleep |
04:38.04 | pcj | how do you see gas |
04:38.18 | Fisker | how do i fart you in the face pcj ? |
04:38.19 | Sky2042_afk | sighs at the misinterpretations of Fisker's statement. |
04:38.56 | Cooobra | fisker PMed me, so i was responding to that =P |
04:39.16 | LucidFox | Where does the boat from Azuremyst go in the current beta? |
04:39.21 | LucidFox | if there is one |
04:39.26 | Cooobra | teld |
04:39.27 | pcj | it gets lost at sea |
04:39.30 | pcj | same thing |
04:39.36 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
04:39.37 | Cooobra | lol |
04:39.39 | LucidFox | "teld"? |
04:39.40 | Fisker | i've done no such thing Cooobra |
04:39.49 | Cooobra | the big tree |
04:39.58 | LucidFox | but wasn't Rut'theran destroyed? |
04:40.02 | Cooobra | no |
04:40.10 | Cooobra | auberdine was |
04:40.25 | pcj | so basically blizzard connected two capital cities that no one visits |
04:40.26 | pcj | yay |
04:40.35 | LucidFox | Roleplayers do :) |
04:40.38 | pcj | exactly |
04:40.39 | pcj | no one |
04:40.43 | LucidFox | blinks |
04:40.50 | Cooobra | and made it even MORE annoying for horde members to get to them for holiday event things |
04:41.07 | pcj | so what connects them with the main land |
04:41.28 | Cooobra | the boat from Ruth to the new NE town |
04:41.35 | pcj | clever |
04:41.48 | Fisker | damn i feel like Cooobra |
04:41.54 | LucidFox | Lor'danel isn't a port, though, is it? |
04:41.57 | Fisker | maybe you can fix beta access so i can get better? |
04:42.00 | Cooobra | sure it is |
04:42.00 | LucidFox | it's seaside, but it doesn't have a dock |
04:42.08 | LucidFox | at least, none that I saw |
04:42.17 | Cooobra | it's dock is small |
04:42.38 | Sky2042_afk | I'm in ur wikiz, stealin' Cooobra's edits. |
04:42.42 | Cooobra | informs Lor'danel, size doesn't matter. |
04:43.11 | Cooobra | omg my edits |
04:43.27 | Sky2042_afk | Why, the hell, would we keep documentation for Ace on our wiki?... |
04:43.31 | Sky2042_afk | SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE IDIOCY TO ME |
04:43.38 | Cooobra | who what now |
04:43.59 | Sky2042_afk | There's a handful of Ace 2 documentation here. |
04:44.06 | Sky2042_afk | For no reason at all. |
04:44.38 | Cooobra | lick it goodbye |
04:44.53 | Sky2042_afk | Doing so. |
04:45.23 | Cooobra | Hallowseve15 is making a lot of cataclysm updates... he better not have beta accessssss before us |
04:46.19 | Sky2042_afk | kills the absent foxlit. |
04:47.26 | Sky2042_afk | He might have had alpha access. |
04:47.30 | Sky2042_afk | Might have* |
04:48.15 | Cooobra | is saddened |
04:49.29 | Sky2042_afk | Oh, chill. Kirk will likely get an email in the near future about keys for beta. They send 4 or 5 keys for every fansite |
04:49.40 | Sky2042_afk | At least, that's what I remember with Wrath. |
04:49.46 | Sky2042_afk | The admins horde them. |
04:49.47 | Sky2042_afk | :3 |
04:50.38 | Cooobra | No.. I'm saddened about this |
04:50.39 | Cooobra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Dustwallow_Marsh&diff=2309347&oldid=2308482 |
04:50.40 | LucidFox | And I won't get one, obviously |
04:50.45 | Fisker | you cannot stop me Cooobra |
04:50.57 | Sky2042_afk | Sorry, LucidFox. |
04:51.12 | Sky2042_afk | Though, I do think Blizz does end up giving keys in competition like. |
04:51.18 | Sky2042_afk | IIRC from last year. |
04:51.24 | Sky2042_afk | Or last beta* |
04:51.32 | Cooobra | The only horde base in dustwallow... and it becomes a twilight base |
04:51.40 | LucidFox | Meh, competitions |
04:52.28 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
04:52.53 | Cooobra | Wonder if the Shady Rest Inn was rebuilt |
04:57.16 | Cooobra | Gnomish alchemist is interesting... he'll type whole sentences in articles in all lowercase... but when he uses templates, he caps the parameter (thus making it not work) |
04:57.48 | Cooobra | even when words should be capped (forgot to add that part) |
04:58.56 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
04:59.03 | Sky2042_afk | That was implied. |
04:59.25 | Fisker | i feel like shit Cooobra |
04:59.29 | Cooobra | ok, just making sure lol |
04:59.34 | Cooobra | why fisker |
05:00.06 | Fisker | i'm like a leaking gas balloon |
05:00.13 | Cooobra | >< |
05:00.51 | LucidFox | Oh, and maybe old news, but the old pre-flying Stormwind still exists in the beta files. |
05:01.02 | LucidFox | And even it has received the texture update. |
05:03.33 | Cooobra | Stormwind flies? |
05:03.48 | Cooobra | oh... nvm, misread that |
05:04.03 | Fisker | i can do this all day Cooobra |
05:04.23 | Cooobra | not if you use a cork |
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06:06.12 | Sky2042_afk | If you were to rename http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Original , what would you rename it? |
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06:10.38 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: If you were to rename http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Original , what would you rename it? |
06:13.41 | g0urra | I would merge it into Community, but maybe that's just me |
06:13.41 | Sky2042_afk | :/ |
06:13.47 | Sky2042_afk | Oh, hrrrr. |
06:13.51 | Sky2042_afk | "User created content" |
06:17.08 | Sky2042_afk | Maybe original content might have been better, but meh. |
06:18.38 | g0urra | hmm |
06:18.39 | g0urra | true |
06:18.56 | g0urra | "Category:Orgrimmar Horde quest NPCs" |
06:18.57 | g0urra | what |
06:19.39 | g0urra | >implying quest givers in orgrimmar can be other than horde |
06:21.22 | Cooobra | Yea...its why I didn't make Alliance, Horde, or neutral versions for the few alliance city categories I made for that |
06:21.59 | Sky2042_afk | mehs. |
06:22.05 | Sky2042_afk | I'm just keeping it consistent. |
06:22.48 | Cooobra | I thought as much |
06:36.59 | LucidFox | So |
06:37.09 | LucidFox | What do we do with subzone templates? |
06:37.17 | LucidFox | Do we add the new Cataclysm subzones? |
06:38.02 | Cooobra | I would make a new cata version of it... it can then be merged when it goes live |
06:38.21 | Sky2042_afk | Ew |
06:38.47 | Sky2042_afk | I'd use {{cata-inline}} to demarcate the ones for Cataclysm. |
06:38.47 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cata-inline |
06:38.53 | Sky2042_afk | And use the original zones. |
06:38.59 | Sky2042_afk | s/zones/templates/ |
06:39.13 | Cooobra | But what if Cata removes subzones or changes the name of it |
06:39.33 | Sky2042_afk | Like? |
06:39.38 | LucidFox | Removed ones can stay until the patch goes live, I think |
06:39.55 | LucidFox | As for a rename, here's an example: Auberdine -> Ruins of Auberdine |
06:39.59 | LucidFox | the latter is a redlink right now |
06:40.00 | Cooobra | Like, Auberdine becomes Ruins of Auberdine... do you want them to change the current template..... yea that |
06:40.10 | Cooobra | get out of my head |
06:40.11 | Sky2042_afk | Sure! |
06:40.24 | MasterOfDisguise | Ew. |
06:40.27 | LucidFox | I think renamed ones can stay at their old names for now |
06:40.28 | Sky2042_afk | Have 'em both, and leave an inline note that the pages will likely be merged. |
06:40.35 | Sky2042_afk | Rather than the template. |
06:40.43 | LucidFox | and new ones can be marked with the [Cataclysm] logo |
06:40.46 | Sky2042_afk | Since that seems to be what we're planning to do. |
06:40.47 | LucidFox | although honestly |
06:40.54 | LucidFox | I would just prefer the circled (C) |
06:40.56 | Sky2042_afk | kicks MasterOfDisguise. |
06:41.03 | MasterOfDisguise | HAHA |
06:41.22 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Might be a good idea to drop a note on [[template talk:Cata-inline]]. I'm with you on that one. |
06:41.22 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/template_talk:Cata-inline |
06:42.46 | LucidFox | "Icon_Cataclysm_38x35.gif"? Ew, gif |
06:42.50 | LucidFox | that's so 1996 |
06:43.38 | Sky2042_afk | So upload a png. |
06:43.41 | Sky2042_afk | pfts. |
06:44.37 | LucidFox | Okay, there we go: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Cata-inline |
06:45.38 | LucidFox | Do we have an article for old Hyjal? The "No Man's Land" one? |
06:45.51 | Sky2042_afk | Don't see why we need one of those, tbh. |
06:46.09 | Cooobra | There ya go. {{C-inline}} |
06:46.10 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:C-inline |
06:46.21 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: Ewwww, different template. |
06:46.50 | LucidFox | Well, we can always redirect later |
06:47.23 | Sky2042_afk | I personally hate redirect templates, but w/e. |
06:48.11 | Cooobra | I'd prefer to use the old image... that read Cata for the cata-inline... but thats me |
06:48.21 | Sky2042_afk | rofls at Cooobra. |
06:48.43 | Sky2042_afk | Not to knock you checking quest NPCs, but Shattrath City has an Alliance quest NPCs. |
06:49.03 | Sky2042_afk | Alliance quest NPC* |
06:49.07 | LucidFox | Or alternatively, maybe we could add the old name in brackets? |
06:49.11 | LucidFox | er, the new name |
06:49.21 | Sky2042_afk | Nah. |
06:49.24 | Sky2042_afk | Keep them separate for now. |
06:50.32 | Cooobra | did i forget that city? |
06:50.34 | LucidFox | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore <-- Proof of concept |
06:50.35 | LucidFox | comments? |
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06:51.27 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: You made [[Category:Shattrath City neutral quest NPCs]] and then didn't make [[Category:Shattrath City quest NPCs]] |
06:51.27 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Category:Shattrath_City_neutral_quest_NPCs, www.wowwiki.com/Category:Shattrath_City_quest_NPCs |
06:51.36 | Sky2042_afk | But fixord! |
06:51.48 | g0urra | I'm late for the subzone template discussion |
06:51.50 | g0urra | but |
06:52.03 | Cooobra | OH... HA... um... I blame Ashbear |
06:52.23 | g0urra | update them with how they are in cataclysm, without marking anything as {{cata-inline}}. there's version history you know |
06:52.24 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cata-inline |
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06:52.58 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: Then you break navigation for those affect articles until release. |
06:53.03 | Sky2042_afk | affected* |
06:53.04 | LucidFox | Should Ruins of Auberdine redirect to Auberdine, or be a Cataclysm-only stub? |
06:53.08 | Sky2042_afk | And I clearly need to go to sleep. |
06:53.39 | Cooobra | I would think Auberdine would be kept for historical purposes, and just make a new article for the ruins |
06:53.49 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
06:53.51 | g0urra | then let them be "broken". make a new template for how they will look in cataclysm and move them to the main one once 4.0 is live |
06:53.56 | g0urra | yeah exactly Cooobra |
06:54.03 | g0urra | for example |
06:54.11 | g0urra | Auberdine will have {{Darkshore}} |
06:54.11 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore |
06:54.21 | g0urra | Ruins of Auberdine has {{Darkshore-cata}}, until 4.0 |
06:54.22 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore-cata |
06:54.29 | g0urra | or something like that |
06:54.31 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra just suggested that. We don't need to have two templates. |
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06:54.46 | Cooobra | thankyou sky, yes i did lol |
06:54.51 | Sky2042_afk | That just creates more work down the road. |
06:55.03 | Sky2042_afk | An edit, versus 2 or 3 page moves. |
06:55.05 | Sky2042_afk | D: |
06:55.10 | Sky2042_afk | I'll take the edit. |
06:55.19 | Sky2042_afk | Times however many other templates. |
06:55.21 | g0urra | and.. you want the current {{Darkshore}} to have both the old ones and new ones with cataclysm? |
06:55.21 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore |
06:55.26 | Sky2042_afk | No. |
06:55.42 | Sky2042_afk | At cataclysm, remove {{c-inline}} _and_ the removed zones. |
06:55.42 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:c-inline |
06:56.27 | g0urra | hngg |
06:56.27 | g0urra | okay |
06:56.33 | Cooobra | I guess... they could share... going to have users changing all those templates anyway, not making new ones |
06:57.00 | g0urra | well, I guess you have a point. the current ones would have both {{Darkshore}} and {{Darkshore-cata}} |
06:57.01 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore, www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore-cata |
06:57.03 | g0urra | not good |
06:57.15 | g0urra | the ones that will still exist in cata, that is |
06:57.31 | Cooobra | true |
06:58.21 | Sky2042_afk | I would think we'll tag the zones which are removed/transformed with {{removedfromgame}} |
06:58.21 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:removedfromgame |
06:58.35 | Sky2042_afk | But that's just tossing it out there. |
06:58.36 | g0urra | nods |
06:58.43 | Sky2042_afk | Not sure if I'd rather see that or redirects, where appropriate. |
06:58.47 | LucidFox | <g0urra> and.. you want the current {{Darkshore}} to have both the old ones and new ones with cataclysm? <-- I, for one, think this would be bette |
06:58.48 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore |
06:59.02 | g0urra | keep them for historical purposes Sky2042_afk |
06:59.10 | LucidFox | So, my proposal is: |
06:59.35 | LucidFox | - Subzones retaining the same names get a Cataclysm section describing the changes |
06:59.41 | g0urra | LucidFox: no.. the template still has version history, and the removed subzones can be noted in the template talk section |
07:00.31 | LucidFox | - Renamed subzones get Cataclysm-specific stub articles, and the old names get {{removedfromgame}} when 4.0.x goes live |
07:00.31 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:removedfromgame |
07:00.47 | Sky2042_afk | what is this I dont even http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Slashbash101&action=edit |
07:01.45 | Cooobra | {{Removedwithcataclysm}} |
07:01.46 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedwithcataclysm |
07:02.08 | LucidFox | So, while Cataclysm is in beta, there will be both Auberdine (with a Cataclysm section pointing to the new article) and Ruins of Auberdine. Separate articles. When Cataclysm goes live, Auberdine will be tagged with a removed template, and Ruins of Auberdine will have its Cataclysm template removed. |
07:02.18 | g0urra | {{Removedfromgame|patch=4.0.0}} |
07:02.18 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedfromgame|patch=4.0.0 |
07:02.26 | g0urra | or |
07:02.34 | Sky2042_afk | I'm inclined to go with g0urra's there, myself. |
07:02.34 | g0urra | {{Removedfromgame|patch=cataclysm}} |
07:02.35 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedfromgame|patch=cataclysm |
07:02.39 | g0urra | shrugs |
07:02.39 | LucidFox | Yes, g0urra's proposal sounds good |
07:03.04 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Yes, that last bit is what I've been poking away at. |
07:03.06 | Sky2042_afk | :) |
07:03.20 | g0urra | it's been like that with, for example, Naxxramas |
07:03.29 | g0urra | afaik |
07:03.44 | LucidFox | although the live patch probably will be 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 or something, we'll see :) |
07:03.57 | LucidFox | in any case it's months away from now |
07:03.59 | Cooobra | so the world change is going to be 4.0.0, not 3.9? and the Xpak be 4.0.0 |
07:04.02 | g0urra | (old) naxxramas stayed where it was until wotlk was launched, when it was moved to Naxxramas (original) and got Removedfromgame |
07:04.12 | g0urra | Cooobra: it's not even sure there will be a 3.9 |
07:04.14 | LucidFox | Cooobra> The beta Cataclysm patch is 4.0.0 |
07:04.16 | g0urra | my guess is 3.3.9 |
07:04.31 | g0urra | well wasn't wotlk beta patch 3.0.0? |
07:04.33 | g0urra | then it was |
07:04.36 | g0urra | 3.0.2? |
07:04.38 | g0urra | at launch |
07:04.40 | LucidFox | yep, and the live one was 3.0.2 |
07:05.25 | LucidFox | Also |
07:05.34 | LucidFox | I think that for now, {{Removedwithcataclysm}} should be future tense |
07:05.34 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedwithcataclysm |
07:05.40 | LucidFox | "will be removed with Cataclysm" |
07:05.52 | Cooobra | ew |
07:06.03 | g0urra | erpderp |
07:06.05 | g0urra | why not |
07:06.13 | g0urra | "Category:Removed in Cataclysm" |
07:06.24 | LucidFox | Move! |
07:06.27 | g0urra | to be consistent with "Category:Removed in patch x" |
07:06.31 | g0urra | no u! |
07:06.36 | Cooobra | I believe I wasn't thinking when I made them |
07:06.40 | LucidFox | hey, I didn't make that template |
07:06.42 | LucidFox | moment |
07:07.10 | Sky2042_afk | Lame icon is lame. |
07:07.24 | Sky2042_afk | ITS THE MOTHER FUCKING CATACLYSM AND ITS A SHEET OF PAPER |
07:07.28 | Sky2042_afk | >.> |
07:07.47 | Cooobra | what icon |
07:07.56 | LucidFox | editing |
07:07.59 | Sky2042_afk | on removedincataclysm |
07:08.09 | Sky2042_afk | Er, with* |
07:08.42 | Cooobra | Yea... I was going to make the template more... unique, but never got back to it |
07:09.01 | Cooobra | Whats there now, was just a placeholder |
07:09.57 | LucidFox | Okay, http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Removedwithcataclysm <-- changed the wording and icon, how does this look? |
07:10.44 | g0urra | naw, make it a deathwing face with joker makeup |
07:10.47 | g0urra | and "Why so serious?" |
07:11.07 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
07:11.09 | g0urra | or boxxy with "You's trollin!" |
07:11.22 | Sky2042_afk | Oh jesus, we don't need the 4channers coming after us. |
07:12.14 | g0urra | well Deathwing with joker makeup then |
07:12.19 | Sky2042_afk | Also, I feel the need to trollface.jpg for the edit I just made to {{Stub/Cataclysm}} |
07:12.19 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Stub/Cataclysm |
07:13.03 | g0urra | heh |
07:13.08 | g0urra | I had to google that |
07:14.45 | g0urra | fires up PhotoShop |
07:15.18 | Cooobra | looks around for Fisker |
07:15.29 | Cooobra | Oh well, guess he doesn't want a beta key |
07:15.46 | g0urra | oh you got 2 keys too? |
07:15.52 | Cooobra | yea |
07:16.05 | g0urra | kewl |
07:16.26 | Cooobra | guess, I just give the other one to Roland |
07:16.48 | g0urra | and Baggins |
07:16.59 | Sky2042_afk | Wait, how do you guys have keys?... |
07:17.04 | Sky2042_afk | wonders. |
07:17.15 | Sky2042_afk | Or do you not? |
07:17.20 | Cooobra | Kirkburn just emailed us |
07:17.26 | g0urra | IM NOT TROLLING |
07:17.32 | g0urra | IM G0URROXXY YOU SEE |
07:17.37 | Fisker | hey g0urra |
07:17.39 | Fisker | BETA |
07:17.41 | LucidFox | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ruins_of_Auberdine <-- Okay, how does this look? |
07:17.42 | Fisker | YOU SEE? |
07:17.43 | Sky2042_afk | Yup, g0urra's trolling. |
07:17.53 | Fisker | Cooobra you can't troll me |
07:17.59 | Fisker | Beta keys do not exist |
07:18.00 | Cooobra | dang it Fisker, you just missed it |
07:18.06 | Fisker | no i didn't |
07:18.07 | Sky2042_afk | Likelihood of Cooobra trolling is high as well. |
07:18.12 | g0urra | oh wait, just checked my mail |
07:18.13 | g0urra | lol |
07:18.15 | Fisker | The Battle.net UI does not support adding cataclysm keys |
07:18.21 | Fisker | because there are no beta keys |
07:18.22 | Fisker | durr |
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07:18.41 | Cooobra | you're right... I got a beta keycard |
07:18.59 | Fisker | you've already been proven wrong |
07:19.05 | Fisker | no reason to change the story |
07:19.10 | Fisker | already know you're trolling me |
07:19.31 | Cooobra | oh yea... I'll put [[category:Cataclysm beta testers]] on my page |
07:19.31 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/category:Cataclysm_beta_testers |
07:19.52 | Cooobra | Now you'll never know |
07:19.59 | Fisker | QQ Cooobra |
07:20.33 | Fisker | umadbrah |
07:21.10 | Cooobra | Hey hey hey.... hey... is that night elf ghost still hanging about the single house |
07:21.14 | Fisker | jerkburn isn't even online either |
07:21.16 | Fisker | so fooled again |
07:21.38 | Cooobra | timestamp on email is one hour ago |
07:21.57 | LucidFox | Sky2042_afk> So what about the removal of {{cata-section}}? |
07:21.57 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cata-section |
07:22.08 | Fisker | besides |
07:22.14 | Sky2042_afk | >Implying. |
07:22.17 | Cooobra | removal from what |
07:22.19 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: English please. |
07:22.20 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
07:22.25 | Fisker | if it even was true, kirkburn must've left very clear instructions to not give it to me Cooobra |
07:22.28 | Fisker | :'( |
07:22.39 | Cooobra | lol |
07:22.39 | LucidFox | Well, I saw you removing Cata-section from some articles' Cataclysm sections |
07:22.40 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
07:22.45 | Sky2042_afk | Just one. |
07:22.48 | LucidFox | ah |
07:23.25 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: That said, http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Removal_of_T:RPG_and_T:Cat |
07:23.47 | Cooobra | Why is Western TG removed in cata.... when it never existed |
07:24.00 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: :3 |
07:24.11 | LucidFox | Well, it was a patch of unimplemented land |
07:24.34 | LucidFox | flattened terrain and unfinished textures |
07:24.48 | LucidFox | as of 4.0.0.12319, it still is if you fly over it, but is replaced by mountains on the world map |
07:25.22 | LucidFox | whereas before that it was an inaccessible valley on the world map |
07:26.02 | Cooobra | Sounds like it could be noted in the main article of Tirisfal Glades, if anything |
07:26.43 | Cooobra | hey hey hey... hey ehey, is that dwaren farm in the highlands have a named subzone yet? |
07:26.51 | LucidFox | Haven't checked yet |
07:26.54 | LucidFox | I will today :) |
07:27.02 | Cooobra | =) |
07:27.05 | LucidFox | [[Ironforge Airfield]] *is* a named subzone now |
07:27.06 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_Airfield |
07:27.15 | LucidFox | Newman's Landing still isn't |
07:27.16 | Cooobra | aye I saw that |
07:27.18 | g0urra | so Sky2042_afk |
07:27.20 | g0urra | why so srs |
07:27.55 | g0urra | http://i47.tinypic.com/2z9jrko.jpg |
07:27.59 | g0urra | deathwing is supr srs |
07:28.14 | LucidFox | Hmm |
07:28.28 | LucidFox | maybe we could also have a crossed C icon for subzones removed in Cata? |
07:28.45 | Cooobra | omg gourra |
07:28.58 | g0urra | ? |
07:29.02 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Too much, imo. |
07:29.06 | LucidFox | Okay |
07:29.13 | g0urra | hmm |
07:29.14 | Cooobra | the joker deathwing |
07:29.16 | g0urra | I guess I could write |
07:29.21 | g0urra | "why so serious" too |
07:29.56 | Cooobra | could just simply do (removed) next to the subzone |
07:30.04 | LucidFox | Hmm |
07:30.26 | LucidFox | Was Shatterspear Village ever actually named? It's called Shatterspear Vale now, so we could just move it there like the airfield |
07:30.26 | Cooobra | or TBR |
07:30.35 | LucidFox | Bloody TLAs :) |
07:30.58 | Cooobra | or RIC |
07:31.02 | Cooobra | or RWC |
07:31.15 | Cooobra | or GS |
07:31.38 | LucidFox | (Given that it's a closed zone pre-Cataclysm, you wouldn't be able to read the old name by official in-game means anyway... hmm...) |
07:33.14 | LucidFox | Coobra> GS? |
07:33.23 | Cooobra | gone soon =P |
07:33.23 | LucidFox | GodSpeed? |
07:33.25 | LucidFox | oh |
07:34.45 | g0urra | "Category:Pwn'd by Deathwing" |
07:34.47 | g0urra | http://i45.tinypic.com/2a62kyf.jpg 2.0 |
07:35.06 | LucidFox | How do we handle Darkwhisper Gorge moving from Winterspring to Hyjal? |
07:35.25 | Cooobra | carefully |
07:35.34 | g0urra | section that says it was moved from Winterspring to Hyjal in cataclysm |
07:35.51 | Cooobra | I think he means template wise |
07:35.57 | LucidFox | She |
07:36.05 | Cooobra | she |
07:36.06 | g0urra | holy shit |
07:36.20 | g0urra | the amount of females who actually talk here has increased by like |
07:36.22 | LucidFox | So, do we slap both templates onto it for now? |
07:36.22 | g0urra | 200% |
07:36.25 | g0urra | naw |
07:36.57 | Cooobra | yah |
07:36.58 | g0urra | well, I guess you could, but make it doc= on Hyjal |
07:37.23 | LucidFox | 200%? It was half a person before? :) |
07:37.39 | g0urra | well there was this Ressy person too |
07:37.50 | Cooobra | Ressy is a she too? |
07:37.57 | g0urra | iirc |
07:38.14 | Sky2042_afk | [[WC3 icons/Library]] is choking AWB D: |
07:38.14 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/WC3_icons/Library |
07:38.23 | g0urra | hnng |
07:38.24 | g0urra | ajax |
07:38.34 | Sky2042_afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/WC3_Icons/Map_editor_icon_library |
07:38.51 | g0urra | why so serious Sky2042_afk http://i45.tinypic.com/2a62kyf.jpg |
07:39.00 | LucidFox | So, applying the changes to {{Darkshore}} to other templates in a similar way: yay or nay? |
07:39.00 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Darkshore |
07:39.33 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Do it. |
07:39.40 | Cooobra | aye |
07:39.48 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Though you're going to hit a snag with the Barrens and STV. |
07:39.53 | LucidFox | Hmmm |
07:40.03 | LucidFox | Barrens I can understand, but why STV? |
07:40.10 | Sky2042_afk | That is apparently also split? |
07:40.12 | Cooobra | someone already made a {{Southern Barrens}} |
07:40.12 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Southern_Barrens |
07:40.24 | Sky2042_afk | woo \o/ |
07:40.49 | Cooobra | they found STV too big, went from 30 to 50 |
07:41.09 | Fisker | let me show something that's too big too |
07:41.16 | Fisker | *unzips* |
07:41.16 | Sky2042_afk | Fisker: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
07:41.21 | Fisker | too late Sky2042_afk |
07:41.21 | LucidFox | Okay, for the special case of the Barrens, my proposal is to make also {{Northern Barrens}}, have them both without any Cata icons, and slap one of them onto articles alongside the current {{Barrens}} |
07:41.22 | Dotted | LucidFox meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Northern_Barrens, www.wowwiki.com/Template:Barrens |
07:41.25 | Cooobra | I expect to find the tel abim island |
07:41.48 | Sky2042_afk | LucidFox: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. |
07:41.55 | Cooobra | is the barrens now named Northern barrens? |
07:41.58 | Fisker | what do you think Blizzard will do with BE/Draenei starting zones btw? |
07:42.05 | Sky2042_afk | Maybe {{cata-inline}} or {{c-inline}} in the title of the templates. |
07:42.06 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:cata-inline, www.wowwiki.com/Template:c-inline |
07:42.13 | Cooobra | they won't touch them |
07:42.19 | Fisker | i disagree Cooobra |
07:42.20 | Sky2042_afk | Too new. |
07:42.28 | Cooobra | and already flight capable |
07:42.34 | Fisker | nope |
07:42.38 | Fisker | Draenei may be |
07:42.57 | Cooobra | for the most part |
07:42.57 | Fisker | But silvermoon makes use of the same fake 3D effects because they knew people wouldn't be flying there either |
07:43.18 | Fisker | and IQD is just fucked up a lot with the whole outdoors SWP thing |
07:43.37 | Fisker | But i think they should integrate both areas into the standard area |
07:43.51 | Fisker | would feel kind of a downer to have a zone change portal |
07:43.52 | Cooobra | they might finish the stuff... but I doubt we'll see Cataclysmic changes |
07:43.54 | Fisker | and possibly even no flying |
07:44.28 | Fisker | it's a major boner killer to be flying north of EPL and then hitting an invisible wall |
07:44.34 | Cooobra | well.. least BEs can still fly to their places.. even if through a portal... alliance still have to take a ship |
07:44.50 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Deathwing |
07:44.56 | Fisker | blame Zul'Aman |
07:45.05 | Fisker | you're not deathwing at all g0urra |
07:45.09 | Cooobra | lol |
07:45.14 | Fisker | but that's another great thing |
07:45.33 | Fisker | they could just put some FP's from Exodar to Darkshore and teldrassil |
07:45.55 | Cooobra | weren't they getting a teleporting device |
07:45.59 | g0urra | well, it's a product of me being terribly bored at work |
07:46.06 | Fisker | infact given that they're going totally bananas on FP's it's kinda silly to see that both Silvermoon and Exodar be "sub-par" in that regard :P |
07:46.17 | *** topic/#wowwiki by ChanServ -> Welcome to #wowwiki, please read http://wowwiki.com/WW:IRC | UI&Macros: #wowuidev | #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | Cataclysm beta announced! | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Deathwing |
07:46.39 | Cooobra | I'll just be hanging out at Gallyxia pleasure palace |
07:47.40 | Fisker | the entrance fee is getting me into the beta Cooobra |
07:47.45 | Fisker | sucks to be you |
07:47.58 | Cooobra | lol |
07:48.14 | g0urra | Fisker |
07:48.18 | g0urra | deathwing wants a word with you |
07:48.19 | g0urra | http://i45.tinypic.com/2a62kyf.jpg |
07:48.27 | Fisker | old g0urra |
07:48.46 | Cooobra | If we could just turn the bridge.. we could visit the rest of Undermine... [[File:WorldMap-Kezan.jpg]] |
07:48.46 | Dotted | Cooobra meant: www.wowwiki.com/File:WorldMap-Kezan.jpg |
07:49.18 | *** join/#wowwiki Ward (~Ward@ip45-152-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
07:49.18 | Fisker | i don't get it |
07:49.29 | Cooobra | the highway |
07:49.31 | g0urra | and you never will Fisker |
07:49.42 | Fisker | oh but i will g0urra |
07:49.55 | g0urra | no you won't |
07:50.01 | Cooobra | and deathwing will give it to him |
07:50.04 | g0urra | you were pwn'd by deathwing |
07:50.12 | g0urra | he's super serious |
07:50.13 | Fisker | you mean the mushroom thingy with a road under it Cooobra ? |
07:50.21 | Cooobra | yes |
07:50.23 | Fisker | we pwnt halion last night |
07:50.34 | Fisker | just get a flying mount Cooobra |
07:50.44 | Cooobra | not at level 5 |
07:50.55 | Fisker | visit it with a level 85 |
07:51.27 | Cooobra | but but but.... flight over water is not allowed |
07:51.36 | Cooobra | we'll magically get tired |
07:51.44 | Fisker | undermine doesn't exist |
07:51.49 | Fisker | what's your point? |
07:51.53 | Ward | fisker, my guild got realm first 10 man :D |
07:51.53 | Cooobra | you don't exist |
07:51.57 | Ward | http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/sunstrider/The+Crazy+EightyEights/rating.rs_10 |
07:52.21 | Fisker | well our servers were crashing for like 4 hours straight |
07:52.26 | Ward | so were ours |
07:52.27 | Fisker | so we got him with 15 minutes to spare |
07:52.34 | Ward | we got it 1 hour after the server became stable |
07:52.45 | Fisker | we got it while the server was unstable :D |
07:52.47 | Sky2042_afk | sigh |
07:52.54 | Fisker | someone got disconnected in melee |
07:53.01 | Fisker | shadow debuff thingy |
07:53.03 | Fisker | ??? |
07:53.07 | Fisker | almost wipe |
07:53.08 | Ward | well we couldn't get enough people logged in before the server became stable |
07:53.13 | g0urra | why so deathwing Sky2042_afk? |
07:53.15 | Ward | we spent longer on trash than we did on Halion |
07:53.18 | Ward | 3 tries and it was down |
07:53.20 | Fisker | well i was having sex with a goat |
07:53.22 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: Go fix [[File:Avatar.jpg]] |
07:53.22 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/File:Avatar.jpg |
07:53.25 | Fisker | while we were killing him |
07:53.27 | Ward | and the first try we didn't grasp the tactics at all |
07:53.28 | Sky2042_afk | Make yourself useful. |
07:53.43 | Fisker | we didn't even know what the tactics were |
07:53.51 | Fisker | also we are all handicapped without hands |
07:53.54 | Fisker | so we used our nose |
07:54.17 | Fisker | turns this into a huge pissing contest |
07:54.21 | Ward | we don't have noses, we have to tell our pet chimpasees what buttons to press |
07:54.23 | Cooobra | >< |
07:54.24 | Fisker | also this was 25 man |
07:54.34 | Ward | we did 40 man |
07:54.44 | Fisker | yeah |
07:54.46 | Fisker | in a 10-man raid |
07:54.51 | Fisker | we did it 10 man in a 25-man raid |
07:54.55 | g0urra | Sky2042_afk: why so Dalronn? |
07:55.02 | Cooobra | Nubs... screw killing Halion.. I tamed him, now i has awesome mount |
07:55.02 | Sky2042_afk | Eh? |
07:55.09 | Sky2042_afk | lol Cooobra |
07:55.23 | Fisker | Cooobra |
07:55.31 | Fisker | don't you think this pissing contest is worthy |
07:55.32 | g0urra | Sky2042_afk: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dalronn_the_Controller#Quotes |
07:55.39 | Fisker | OF BETA ACCESS |
07:55.45 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
07:55.59 | Ward | whut |
07:56.02 | Ward | GIEF! |
07:56.09 | Sky2042_afk | lol, Fisker's being a troll. |
07:56.12 | Sky2042_afk | Oh wait, that's normal. |
07:56.28 | Cooobra | Wonder how they explain why the Magram tribe moved in Desolace... |
07:56.38 | Fisker | indeed Sky2042_afk |
07:56.46 | Fisker | Cooobra i would've moved from that dump in a heartbeat |
07:56.48 | Ward | Cooobra, well the entire zone changed |
07:56.55 | Ward | they probably saw a nicer bit of land |
07:56.56 | Fisker | the only thing hard to explain would be why it took them 5 years |
07:56.57 | Ward | and took it |
07:57.14 | Ward | technically it didn't |
07:57.18 | Cooobra | but there was another tribe where they're moving |
07:57.26 | Ward | the current magram are a "moment in time" in vanilla |
07:57.28 | Ward | 5 years ago |
07:57.41 | Ward | Blizzard could say then moved 3 years ago |
07:57.44 | Fisker | Ward |
07:57.49 | Fisker | read up |
07:57.52 | Ward | cause time doesn't move forward without content |
07:57.55 | Fisker | Sky2042_afk offers some excellent advice |
07:57.57 | Fisker | :3 |
07:58.10 | Cooobra | Well... 5years sure... but draenei just arrived 3months ago still =P |
07:58.23 | Sky2042_afk | wonders how I have advised anyone here... |
07:58.46 | Fisker | [09:56:14] <Sky2042_afk> lol, Fisker's being a troll. |
08:03.09 | Cooobra | Neutral port is neutral |
08:05.06 | Cooobra | Least Camo is better than when they first gave the idea of it.... |
08:09.11 | LucidFox | I like the irony of a subzone named "The Secret Lab" |
08:09.29 | Cooobra | shush... its a secret |
08:09.30 | LucidFox | "Now known as the Not-So-Secret-Anymore Lab" |
08:09.55 | *** join/#wowwiki harl (harl@dslb-088-077-211-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
08:10.08 | harl | hi |
08:10.13 | Cooobra | any new neutral goblin towns... like Z4 |
08:10.45 | Sky2042_afk | hello harl! Welcome to the madness of WoWWiki IRC! |
08:11.15 | Cooobra | madness? THIS IS WOWWIKI |
08:12.57 | Cooobra | well thats my cue to go to sleep |
08:13.15 | LucidFox | So, the goblin PCs are slaveowners? |
08:13.56 | Cooobra | I prefer the word, non-volunterers |
08:14.23 | LucidFox | You know what I don't like with the goblin and worgen starting quests, at least from what I know so far? |
08:14.32 | LucidFox | that they rigidly decide your PC's backstory |
08:14.42 | Cooobra | *****SPOILER ALERT****** |
08:14.46 | LucidFox | I can't see how this is going to seat well with roleplayers |
08:14.57 | LucidFox | I'm not posting spoilers :) |
08:15.03 | Cooobra | did the same with DKs |
08:15.07 | LucidFox | Well |
08:15.18 | g0urra | lolRP |
08:15.21 | LucidFox | With DKs there is a lot of leeway |
08:15.39 | Cooobra | lies, you tell you know that person |
08:15.49 | LucidFox | ah that |
08:15.53 | g0urra | slaps Sky2042_afk |
08:16.02 | Sky2042_afk | wonders why he's being slapped. |
08:16.02 | LucidFox | well, it's just one quest and people generally ignore it |
08:16.06 | g0urra | slaps Sky2042_afk |
08:16.10 | g0urra | slaps Sky2042_afk |
08:16.16 | g0urra | <Starnes2> User [[User:WoWWiki-Skyfire]] Possible gibberish? [[Talk:Blood knight/Analysis]] (+2402) Diff: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=2310037&oldid=1096351&rcid=2315560 "clean up, replaced: {{User:Zeal/Sig}} → {{subst:User:Zeal/Sig}} (3), Added missing comments section header" |
08:16.16 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:WoWWiki-Skyfire, www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Blood_knight/Analysis, www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Zeal/Sig, www.wowwiki.com/Template:subst:User:Zeal/Sig |
08:16.20 | g0urra | <Starnes2> User [[User:WoWWiki-Skyfire]] Possible gibberish? [[Talk:C'Thun]] (+3184) Diff: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=2310039&oldid=2234601&rcid=2315562 "clean up, replaced: {{User:Zeal/Sig}} → {{subst:User:Zeal/Sig}} (4)" |
08:16.20 | Dotted | g0urra meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:WoWWiki-Skyfire, www.wowwiki.com/Talk:C'Thun, www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Zeal/Sig, www.wowwiki.com/Template:subst:User:Zeal/Sig |
08:16.26 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
08:16.26 | LucidFox | but other than that, you're free to choose what you did before death and Acherus. |
08:16.34 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: THE POWER OF MAI BAWT! |
08:16.42 | Fisker | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
08:16.58 | LucidFox | The goblin and worgen quests are... very specific about who your character is and who their friends among lore characters are |
08:17.37 | Cooobra | oh that reminds me.... like WTF... I can fish in lava in OS, but theres no fish in the lake within RS >< |
08:17.44 | g0urra | oh ffs |
08:17.52 | g0urra | bot edits gets in #cvn-wikia-wowwiki |
08:17.53 | g0urra | great |
08:18.03 | Sky2042_afk | rawr |
08:18.06 | Sky2042_afk | Not my fault. |
08:18.10 | g0urra | yes it is |
08:18.18 | g0urra | why do you subst anyway |
08:18.18 | Sky2042_afk | Tell Starnes not to care about bot edits. |
08:18.31 | Sky2042_afk | I'm substing them so I don't have to delete the template with Zeal coming and crying to me. |
08:18.47 | g0urra | why delete it anyway |
08:19.19 | Sky2042_afk | Well, I'm not. I'm moving it around in his userspace, and the only conceivable reason I can see that he still has them is because they're linked in so many places. |
08:19.33 | Sky2042_afk | Ooh, speaking of which, time to go subst T:Welcome as well. |
08:19.45 | Sky2042_afk | has them at those locations* |
08:21.44 | Fisker | slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout |
08:21.52 | Sky2042_afk | Only 7 pages left. |
08:24.08 | LucidFox | I wonder |
08:24.19 | LucidFox | Should Ironforge Airfield be prefixed with (C) on the subzone template? |
08:24.57 | LucidFox | It was always there, just unnamed and (officially) inaccessible before Cataclysm |
08:27.20 | Sky2042_afk | oh, lol, way to go me! |
08:27.31 | Sky2042_afk | I just substed all those <imagelink>s :D |
08:31.44 | Sky2042_afk | oh |
08:31.48 | Sky2042_afk | well, crap. |
08:32.56 | Fisker | Sky2042_afk |
08:32.57 | Fisker | hello |
08:33.06 | Sky2042_afk | kills Fisker. |
08:46.04 | LucidFox | So |
08:46.21 | LucidFox | In the goblin starting experience, you have an NPC girlfriend, right? |
08:46.32 | River_Song | (SPOILERS) |
08:47.56 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
08:49.31 | g0urra | suddenly, thousand of nerds cried in joy at the thought of having a girlfriend |
08:49.39 | g0urra | then were silenced as it was a goblin |
08:49.46 | LucidFox | Ugh, g0urra |
08:50.02 | g0urra | wut |
08:50.02 | LucidFox | Now you're making me rethink my decision to stay here |
08:50.09 | LucidFox | So I was wondering, what if your character is female? |
08:50.39 | g0urra | hmm |
08:50.45 | g0urra | I guess you have an NPC boyfriend then? |
08:51.01 | Sky2042_afk | GOBLIN LESBIANISM! |
08:51.21 | LucidFox | Sky2042_afk> Sadly, I doubt Blizzard would go that far |
08:52.08 | LucidFox | Mind you, I *would* like to see openly homosexual characters in Warcraft, but while boldly striving in some directions, Blizzard is too afraid to rock the boat in others |
08:54.11 | Sky2042_afk | there. |
08:54.19 | Sky2042_afk | [[Special:Categories]] is a little cleaner]] |
08:54.20 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Special:Categories |
08:54.55 | LucidFox | Wrath gave us hints (Asric/Jadaar and the more explicit Sweetspring/Amberline), TBC and vanilla gave us... nothing. |
08:58.35 | Sky2042_afk | You know, I don't click the 'new tab' button, the 'back' button, _or_ the 'refresh' button in Firefox. |
08:58.40 | Sky2042_afk | I use all hotkeys for those 3. :| |
08:59.04 | Sky2042_afk | Probably the consequence of a laptop? |
09:00.05 | g0urra | ..probably not |
09:00.15 | g0urra | I've been using hotkeys for ages |
09:00.29 | Sky2042_afk | mmm |
09:00.30 | g0urra | saves me having to move around my hands |
09:00.36 | Sky2042_afk | mmhmm |
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09:31.49 | g0urra | sigh, my bot isn't marked as a bot |
09:38.26 | Fisker | g0urra |
09:38.29 | Fisker | i'm very sick |
09:38.35 | g0urra | no beta for you |
09:38.43 | Fisker | very very sick |
09:39.44 | g0urra | no beta for you |
09:40.14 | Fisker | extraordinarily very very sick |
09:40.17 | g0urra | no beta for you |
09:41.00 | Fisker | exceptionally extraordinarily very very sick |
09:41.29 | g0urra | no beta for you |
09:42.03 | Fisker | very exceptionally extraordinarily very very sick |
09:42.26 | g0urra | no beta for you |
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09:43.56 | Fisker | g0urra |
09:43.57 | Fisker | please |
09:43.59 | Fisker | i'm dying |
09:44.02 | g0urra | no beta for you |
09:44.46 | Fisker | please |
09:46.22 | g0urra | sorry can't talk, busy with beta |
09:47.19 | Fisker | i hate you |
09:48.41 | Ward | anyone have a good tip on how to get into the beta? |
09:48.58 | Ward | I even sent in some stuff for that guild beta contest thing but no luck |
09:49.40 | LucidFox | Meh |
09:53.16 | g0urra | be pro |
09:53.17 | g0urra | like me |
09:55.55 | Fisker | man i fart a lot g0urra |
09:56.04 | Fisker | would be a shame if i installed a tube in my ass going to your house |
09:56.59 | g0urra | Fisker |
09:57.00 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:SrsDeathwing.jpg |
09:58.04 | Fisker | old g0urra |
09:58.23 | Fisker | also don't use wowwiki for your personal webhost |
09:59.49 | g0urra | also beta |
10:01.14 | Ward | g0urra, you know what would piss Fisker off greatly |
10:01.21 | Ward | if you'd hook me up with beta |
10:08.13 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816836687&postId=138154552349&sid=1#1 |
10:32.35 | Fisker | g0urra |
10:32.44 | Fisker | i'm a very sick individual |
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10:35.10 | Fisker | foxlit |
10:35.12 | Fisker | i'm sic |
10:35.13 | Fisker | sick |
10:40.43 | Eraclito | here's a giant suppository for you, Fisker |
10:41.34 | foxlit | I'm injured, Fisker/ |
10:42.50 | foxlit | which is making it surprisingly inconvenient to type things. |
10:43.03 | Fisker | damn |
10:43.11 | Fisker | so you can't play the cataclysm beta? |
10:43.12 | Fisker | what a shame |
10:43.16 | Fisker | maybe i can take it off your hands |
10:44.58 | Fisker | soh |
10:44.59 | Fisker | doh |
10:45.09 | foxlit | It's bind on pickup, I'm afraid. |
10:45.12 | Fisker | i should've updated my system specs to include my GTX480 |
10:45.21 | Fisker | yeah foxlit |
10:45.26 | Fisker | and you haven't picked it up yet of course |
10:45.33 | Fisker | because doing so would be very selfish |
10:45.52 | Fisker | when there are able-bodied people elsewhere more than capable of performing the tasks of a beta |
10:47.42 | Fisker | isn't that right foxlit ? |
10:48.08 | foxlit | I rationalize it by thinking of the beta forums. |
10:48.27 | Fisker | how very selfish of you :( |
10:48.31 | foxlit | The longer they remain Fisker-free, the longer beta testing might actually go on. |
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10:49.27 | Fisker | well you would of course know, if you had attended the other betas, that the beta forums are infact useless |
10:50.15 | Fisker | we all know that whatever is posted on the EU beta forums never actually reaches the US developement, design or even QA team |
10:56.02 | Fisker | so foxlit |
10:56.08 | Fisker | did you change your mind? |
10:57.57 | Fisker | oh my god |
10:58.10 | Fisker | omg foxlit |
10:58.10 | Fisker | omg |
10:58.11 | Fisker | gmo |
10:58.12 | Fisker | OMG |
10:58.32 | Fisker | they actually gave a shit this time around and they let us use the US forums |
10:58.49 | Fisker | though i'm afraid that's probably more due to technical reasons than anything else |
10:58.55 | Fisker | but whatever, this is awesome |
11:26.49 | Fisker | you've made yourself a powerful enemy today, foxlit |
11:29.01 | foxlit | a powerful enemy without beta access, Fisker? |
11:33.41 | foxlit | Hm, we have a pre {overflow: scroll} somewhere |
11:34.02 | foxlit | Can't find where, though :/ |
11:36.23 | Fisker | i will get it soon enough foxlit |
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15:28.57 | Dotted | i see beta Fisker |
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16:00.21 | fbxxkl | Thats very odd. I am getting insufficiant processor speed errors when I try to install WoW on ubuntu.. |
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17:58.46 | Ressy | lawl. LostIsles crashed |
18:02.35 | kd3 | ya, saw that. 15->5->0:05->splat |
18:02.45 | Sky2042_afk | tehehehe, splat |
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18:17.07 | g0urra | why so deathwing Sky2042_afk? |
18:19.51 | Sky2042_afk | g0urra: SPLAT |
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19:24.18 | foxlit | "we recommend you http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ to continue viewing Wikia at its best!" |
19:24.45 | foxlit | I want an option to block all messages from @wikia people |
19:36.51 | Sky2042_afk | foxlit: :D |
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20:16.38 | Cooobra | With Garrosh getting that ugly new self model.... wonder if all the orcs in Nagrand will look ... similar |
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20:46.11 | g0urra | facepalms at google |
20:46.18 | g0urra | searched for "why does africans have dark skin?" |
20:46.32 | g0urra | google asks: "did you mean: why does americans have dark skin?" |
20:47.37 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
20:47.42 | Sky2042_afk | melatonin, fool. |
20:48.42 | g0urra | well duh I know that now |
20:54.59 | Cooobra | lol |
20:55.59 | Fisker | so Cooobra |
20:56.15 | Cooobra | no key for joo Fisker |
20:56.22 | Fisker | no key for anybody infact |
20:56.57 | XSlicer | I got, oho |
20:57.25 | Fisker | no |
20:58.03 | g0urra | I got, hoho |
20:58.49 | Sky2042_afk | I'm tempted to kick you people if you don't knock it off. Gloat when you have a key, kthx. |
20:58.53 | Fisker | no g0urra |
20:58.56 | Fisker | no Sky2042_afk |
20:59.28 | g0urra | aw Sky2042_afk :< |
20:59.41 | g0urra | btw Sky2042_afk |
20:59.45 | g0urra | why aren't you in the category |
20:59.48 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Cataclysm_beta_testers |
21:00.06 | Sky2042_afk | Because I don't have a key. Hrrr. I'm || this close to kicking you. |
21:00.58 | Cooobra | lol |
21:01.29 | Cooobra | I has a Wotlk key |
21:01.38 | g0urra | aw I thought you had one Sky2042_afk |
21:01.39 | g0urra | :( |
21:01.42 | g0urra | pats |
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21:02.05 | *** kick/#wowwiki [g0urra!~Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042_afk (Knock it off.) |
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21:02.19 | Fisker | no Cooobra |
21:02.25 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Sky2042_afk] by Sky2042_afk |
21:02.52 | Fisker | no Sky2042_afk |
21:03.00 | Sky2042_afk | I'll kick you too. |
21:07.39 | Fisker | no Sky2042_afk |
21:07.41 | Fisker | you will not |
21:07.49 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Sky2042_afk] by ChanServ |
21:07.55 | Fisker | Sky2042_afk |
21:07.56 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Fisker!~Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042_afk (Yes, I will.) |
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21:08.06 | Fisker | unfortunately you can't |
21:09.21 | airtonix | fisker is like a shadow... |
21:09.36 | airtonix | only way you can get rid of him is turn out the lights |
21:09.46 | airtonix | then the gremlins get you |
21:11.13 | Fisker | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/tofera/weird.jpg <-great |
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21:11.19 | Fisker | so there's 2 penises in wrath so far |
21:18.58 | Eluna | Anyone else having problems downloading the beta client from Blizzard.. |
21:19.03 | Eluna | Can't seem to start the thing.. |
21:22.29 | Fisker | if you give me your login i can verify the issue |
21:23.36 | Fisker | :( |
21:23.45 | Fisker | WHY DIDN'T IT WORK?! |
21:27.24 | Eluna | :P |
21:41.59 | XSlicer | How many patches are there so far? |
21:42.13 | Sky2042_afk | Hmm. |
21:43.34 | XSlicer | Im currently at the 4th, 4.0.0.12164 |
21:44.17 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: What would be a correct regex fragment to catch "[URL=" |
21:52.11 | Ose | \[URL= I would think |
21:52.21 | Ose | [ is a special character but = is not |
21:52.30 | Sky2042_afk | I'll try again then. |
21:52.35 | Sky2042_afk | Blgh. |
21:55.52 | Sky2042_afk | pokes g0urra or Cooobra. |
21:56.27 | Sky2042_afk | or Ose. you available for about 2 seconds? |
21:56.48 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: Trying to remove a link from [[User:Mikk/Scripts]] |
21:56.48 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Mikk/Scripts |
21:57.57 | Sky2042_afk | pings a few more in the channel. |
22:03.17 | Sky2042_afk | is feeling helpless. |
22:03.25 | Ose | Sky2042_afk: I know only very basic regex. you could try #regex (or possibly ##regex) |
22:03.35 | Sky2042_afk | :/ |
22:04.17 | Sky2042_afk | Ose: Can you try editing the above link and removing [[WoWWiki:RC]] and [[WoWWiki:RC/Skip]]? I haven't been able to. |
22:04.17 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:RC, www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:RC/Skip |
22:04.53 | Ose | can try |
22:05.29 | Sky2042_afk | That's all I need atm. |
22:08.34 | Ose | won't that break a lot of stuff? |
22:08.43 | Ose | I mean, it will leave a lot of holes |
22:09.31 | Sky2042_afk | Ose: ? |
22:09.40 | Sky2042_afk | It's only linked once a piece. |
22:13.21 | Ose | Sky2042_afk: do you just mean like this http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User%3AMikk%2FScripts&diff=2310637&oldid=1538219 ? |
22:13.31 | Sky2042_afk | yup |
22:13.32 | Sky2042_afk | thanks |
22:13.46 | Ose | why couldn't you do that? |
22:14.42 | Sky2042_afk | I don't know. :| |
22:14.42 | Sky2042_afk | This is the second time I've had the problem. |
22:14.43 | Sky2042_afk | Caching or something, on my end, likely. |
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22:27.41 | Sky2042_afk | hmm |
22:28.02 | Sky2042_afk | Cooobra: Ok, so part of the confusion I'm having right now is the wording on the categories. |
22:28.39 | Sky2042_afk | C:QGivers and enders seems to indicate that it is for all NPCs which have both quests to end and to begin, even if they aren't the same quest. |
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22:29.37 | Ose | bah, when will you guys start using SMW |
22:30.24 | Sky2042_afk | Ose: When they turn it on. It's been sitting on [[WW:SR]] for about 2 years now. -.- |
22:30.24 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/WW:SR |
22:30.31 | Sky2042_afk | rages. |
22:30.51 | Ose | you're supposed to use [[Special:Contact]] |
22:30.51 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contact |
22:30.57 | Ose | or nag kb |
22:31.15 | Sky2042_afk | Ose: That's always where we've put our requests. :| |
22:31.20 | Sky2042_afk | But I'll go nag. |
22:31.24 | Sky2042_afk | In the near future. |
22:31.45 | Ose | Sky2042_afk: but apparently wikia forgot the page existed |
22:32.04 | Sky2042_afk | Ose: Or didn't care for it to begin with. -_- |
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22:39.17 | Sky2042_afk | NETSPLIT! WHEE |
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22:50.51 | pcj | actually yeah i just asked them to turn variablesextension on and they did |
22:50.51 | pcj | so |
22:52.24 | Sky2042 | I noticed you make that change. |
22:52.42 | pcj | its always good to be noticed |
22:53.03 | Sky2042 | I would think on a wiki, it's a bad thing to be noticed. |
22:53.06 | Sky2042 | mehs. |
22:53.24 | pcj | why would you think that |
22:54.00 | Sky2042 | Eh, you do good work, you don't get noticed. |
22:54.11 | Sky2042 | mehs again. |
22:54.29 | pcj | *cough* barnstar *cough* |
22:55.01 | Sky2042 | I'm not a barnstar kind of person. |
22:55.24 | pcj | That doesn't mean good contributors don't get noticed |
22:55.41 | pcj | i will say it's easier to recognize bad contributors |
22:56.49 | jeavis | Human nature |
23:01.11 | Sky2042 | Hmm |
23:01.14 | Sky2042 | someone explain why http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:AutoWikiBrowser/User_talk_templates |
23:01.17 | Sky2042 | exists |
23:01.30 | Sky2042 | And it seems to be missing edits. |
23:01.51 | Cooobra | Explain not I can |
23:01.57 | Sky2042 | moves back to user's archive. |
23:02.35 | pcj | deletion logs probably got erased |
23:02.37 | pcj | ? |
23:02.50 | Sky2042 | wth |
23:03.17 | pcj | jumps from 106k to 18k though lol |
23:03.25 | pcj | in a day :S |
23:03.26 | Sky2042 | it's an exact copy of [[usertalk:ClydeJr]] |
23:03.27 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/usertalk:ClydeJr |
23:03.41 | Sky2042 | AWB fucked up it looks like. |
23:04.01 | Sky2042 | Meh, I'll fix it. |
23:05.01 | Ose | pcj: were you discussing SMW during the netsplit? |
23:05.10 | Sky2042 | ^ |
23:05.36 | pcj | you missed my brilliant discussion points? |
23:05.43 | pcj | dang it |
23:06.45 | Sky2042 | Not sure if serious. |
23:07.25 | pcj | oh |
23:10.26 | pcj | hmm |
23:10.31 | pcj | how do i do a hard space in a template |
23:10.43 | pcj | {{#if:{{{1|}}}| asdf}} |
23:10.43 | Dotted | pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{1| |
23:10.51 | pcj | where the space before asdf doesn't disappear |
23:11.01 | Sky2042 | See {{Ref game}} |
23:11.01 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:Ref_game |
23:11.11 | Sky2042 | There's a hard whitespace character or two in there. |
23:11.21 | Sky2042 | Or harder, anyway. |
23:13.01 | pcj | i need something that will work in a file name |
23:13.41 | Sky2042 | Use an underscore then. |
23:13.44 | pcj | duh |
23:13.46 | pcj | ty |
23:13.52 | Sky2042 | I live to serve. |
23:14.17 | pcj | ok phasing works now |
23:14.35 | pcj | now i get to document it! |
23:14.59 | Sky2042 | woo |
23:15.01 | Sky2042 | \o/ |
23:25.45 | Ose | [00:32]<Sky2042_afk>Ose: Or didn't care for it to begin with. -_- |
23:25.47 | Ose | [00:38]<Sky2042_afk>NETSPLIT! WHEE |
23:25.50 | Ose | [00:50]<pcj>actually yeah i just asked them to turn variablesextension on and they did |
23:26.05 | pcj | nice quoting |
23:26.10 | Ose | (minus join/quit/rights log, that was all I saw) |
23:26.19 | Ose | in that period |
23:26.52 | Sky2042 | That is nice quoting, actually. |
23:27.08 | Sky2042 | Chatzilla! \o/ |
23:33.54 | Ose | did you guys hide the monao userpage followed pages sidebar thing and not make the rest of the page 100% width again? |
23:35.06 | Sky2042 | Wasn't me. |
23:35.10 | Sky2042 | I use wowwiki.css! |
23:35.11 | Sky2042 | Go me! |
23:35.20 | pcj | i use wowwiki too but it showed up on wowwiki so i just hid it |
23:35.25 | pcj | it looks fine though |
23:35.52 | Ose | [[User:Kirkburn]] has a big ugly margin for me |
23:35.53 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn |
23:36.23 | Ose | also |
23:36.24 | pcj | not me |
23:36.31 | Ose | [01:10]<pcj>{{#if:{{{1|}}}| asdf}} |
23:36.32 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{1| |
23:36.34 | Ose | [01:10]<Dotted>pcj meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:{1| |
23:37.03 | *** join/#wowwiki Dragoon_Jett (~whois@bas1-montreal48-1279647374.dsl.bell.ca) |
23:37.03 | Ose | the bot guy in #sporewiki made his version of the linkbot not do ^long ago |
23:37.12 | Ose | dotted update your scripts |
23:39.22 | Sky2042 | You know what I find hilarious. |
23:39.34 | Cooobra | are there not any new motes for cata? just the volatiles? |
23:39.45 | Sky2042 | Almost every extension that Wikia has made doesn't have a link to the documentation on [[Special:Version]] |
23:39.46 | Dotted | Sky2042 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Special:Version |
23:39.53 | Sky2042 | Such crap at transparency. |
23:40.05 | Ose | Sky2042: what documentation? :P |
23:40.15 | Sky2042 | That too. |
23:40.50 | Sky2042 | lol |
23:40.52 | Sky2042 | "IE6PhaseOut " |
23:40.59 | Sky2042 | "Shows message for Internet Explorer 6 users" |
23:41.06 | Sky2042 | l2upgrade, nubs |
23:41.27 | pcj | because it's all basically implemented through RTE options or otherwise not configurable sky |
23:41.49 | Sky2042 | Eh? |
23:41.49 | pcj | they figure dumb users don't want to read the manual |
23:41.57 | pcj | all of wikia's extensions |
23:42.02 | Sky2042 | Mmm |
23:42.08 | Sky2042 | That's still stupid. |
23:42.13 | pcj | duh its wikia |
23:42.17 | Sky2042 | There will be users that want to work on the extensions. |
23:42.19 | Sky2042 | lol |
23:43.12 | Cooobra | mmm chicken |
23:43.33 | pcj | thats what she said |
23:45.21 | Cooobra | i just got myself thinking about that southpark ep with the chicken... fuuniest ep ever |
23:53.21 | jeavis | :( |