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| 01:05.52 | Cooobra | rollseyes |
| 01:06.06 | Cooobra | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:List_of_race_and_class_icons#Cataclysm_Icons |
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| 01:47.22 | Cooobra | now I can see why they don't want us to visit Kezan.... |
| 01:47.31 | Cooobra | what a dump lol |
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| 04:20.48 | Cooobra | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:What_does_the_draenei_kill%3F&rcid=2257028 |
| 04:20.54 | Cooobra | Looks like orcs to me |
| 04:22.34 | pcj | cool story |
| 04:25.40 | pcj | but bibi what about deadwind psas |
| 04:25.41 | pcj | pass* |
| 04:30.11 | Cooobra | its dead |
| 04:31.46 | pcj | what about isle of quel'danas then |
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| 04:50.43 | Eraclito | it's quel |
| 04:53.21 | Amarande | pcj: you're looking at adys's eastern kingdoms map? |
| 04:53.39 | Amarande | IQD is on the Outland world server, it, Eversong and Ghostlands are not contiguous with the rest of EK |
| 04:53.48 | Amarande | wonders how they'll address that with flying mounts though :S |
| 04:55.25 | Eraclito | i wonder it too |
| 04:55.35 | Eraclito | they really should merge'em |
| 04:56.02 | Eraclito | gilneas isn't instanced, there's no reason to keep ghostland on the outland server |
| 04:56.33 | Amarande | what's with that big red blast looking thing over stratholme? strat going away in cata, or the non-instanced part NYI? |
| 04:57.14 | Eraclito | i think is just the non instanced part with the usual flames |
| 04:58.35 | Eraclito | i'm kinda curious about the dun morogh changes |
| 04:59.19 | Eraclito | new roads, new mountains, a huge avalanche |
| 04:59.30 | Amarande | what's this verdant area in the southwest part of blasted lands? |
| 04:59.41 | Amarande | and the smoky demony area seems to be gone |
| 04:59.57 | Amarande | Adys: is Ritual of Doom being added to the trainer in Cata, btw? |
| 05:00.09 | Amarande | since I seem to remember the tainted scar was a required part for that questline, and now it's going to be gone |
| 05:00.27 | Adys | .. i dont have a warlock :p |
| 05:00.33 | Adys | but seriously |
| 05:00.43 | Eraclito | i think they'll add to the trainer everything |
| 05:00.52 | Adys | exactly |
| 05:00.58 | Eraclito | also because old darkwhisper gorge is going away, and was important to that questline |
| 05:01.06 | Eraclito | (i helped a warlock friend back in tbc) |
| 05:01.11 | Adys | its not like they'll remove ritual of doom like that and not tell anyone.. |
| 05:01.20 | Eraclito | (when two-manning these lv60 demons in two casters were a pain) |
| 05:01.27 | Amarande | dang, it's laggy scrolling through that map at zoomed in res |
| 05:01.30 | Amarande | I need more RAM :| |
| 05:01.56 | Amarande | what's the tiny little island up in the NW of Kalimdor? |
| 05:02.13 | Eraclito | i think the biggest revelation is that deathwing scar isn't a mountain zone |
| 05:02.21 | Eraclito | Amarande, gm island =P really |
| 05:02.23 | kd3 | Amarande, that's gm island |
| 05:03.41 | Amarande | hmm darkwhisper gorge looks like it's still there |
| 05:03.49 | Amarande | unless it's not changing as drastically as the Tainted Scar, and will have mostly the same geog |
| 05:04.07 | kd3 | it's still there, just the twilights own it now, not demons |
| 05:04.20 | Eraclito | and it's quite different |
| 05:05.32 | Eraclito | (i hope that the zul'gurub walls are just an alpha thing and are going to be straightened) |
| 05:06.53 | Amarande | hm, remind me to only ever make one goblin |
| 05:07.00 | Amarande | azshara's geography looks just as irritating as ever |
| 05:10.10 | Amarande | wow thousand needles changed ... that dark brown stuff is all underwater now? |
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| 05:10.48 | Amarande | what's the lake with the island in the middle of it that's north of dire maul? |
| 05:12.10 | Jamash | is there a page / set of pages on wowwiki that shows where each class's spells come from (ie warcraft 1/2/3, D&D, other RPGs, etc.)? |
| 05:13.53 | Amarande | uldum looks neat |
| 05:14.01 | Amarande | will be able to fly over AQ I presume, that sounds fun |
| 05:14.08 | Eraclito | (omg in loch modan there're *roads*... real roads! to follow!) |
| 05:14.19 | Amarande | especially if we can get obsidian shards there, since it looks like obsidian shards are showing a resurgence in use according to what I read about ebonsteel |
| 05:14.22 | Amarande | however |
| 05:14.29 | Amarande | I still don't know what that lake and island north of dire maul are :S |
| 05:14.48 | Eraclito | still in alpha i think, borders aren't so sharp |
| 05:15.26 | Eraclito | also deathwing draws a penis in badlands, it will be a new meme |
| 05:15.43 | Amarande | I didn't notice that :S |
| 05:17.34 | Jamash | noo kargath |
| 05:17.48 | Eraclito | well kargath isn't fit to be a horde town anymore |
| 05:18.08 | Eraclito | you know, kargath actually betrayed the horde in burning crusade |
| 05:18.21 | Eraclito | (kargath bladefist or what was his name) |
| 05:18.49 | Jamash | true enough |
| 05:20.07 | Amarande | so what, there's *no* towns in badlands now? |
| 05:20.13 | Eraclito | there's a new one |
| 05:20.20 | Amarande | crap, where are horde supposed to hearth when ...ah |
| 05:20.30 | Amarande | fuck. |
| 05:20.41 | Eraclito | the new one looks a lot more badass |
| 05:20.43 | Amarande | why did I have to buy the one jar of Tostitos Southwestern Ranch dip that won't open |
| 05:20.54 | Eraclito | with the metal, built in a mountain, etc |
| 05:21.10 | Eraclito | mmh... i think tbc zones will not be flyable |
| 05:21.19 | Amarande | any classic dungeons that won't be there anymore? |
| 05:21.26 | Eraclito | ghostlands lack like a whole coast |
| 05:21.28 | Amarande | Erac: that would be odd, since outland is flyable |
| 05:21.43 | Eraclito | yes but eversong and ghostlands aren't fit to fly |
| 05:21.57 | Eraclito | have you ever seen the east coast of ghostlands? |
| 05:21.59 | Amarande | nor IQD for that matter |
| 05:22.16 | Eraclito | you haven't... because it doesn't exist =P |
| 05:22.20 | Amarande | Erac: nope. I'd probably have to go off the east coast of eversong and swim south to see |
| 05:22.39 | Eraclito | http://mapwow.com/?lng3=85.23193359375&lat3=50.40851753069726&zoom=7 |
| 05:22.41 | kd3 | invisible walls say no |
| 05:23.01 | kd3 | the whole east coast of the peninsula never got implemented |
| 05:23.07 | Eraclito | http://mapwow.com/?lng3=85.968017578125&lat3=55.21649013168979&zoom=7 <- this link explain better than the previous one |
| 05:23.14 | Eraclito | kd3, do you think it's because of zul'aman? |
| 05:23.36 | kd3 | meh, I dunno what goes through the world designers' minds |
| 05:23.52 | Amarande | for that matter, what's that huge structure on the southeastern side of eversong for? |
| 05:24.17 | Amarande | I don't even *remember* that from questing there, and I have four BEs |
| 05:24.18 | Eraclito | it's the same as on southeastern ghostlands... that one is zul'aman entrance |
| 05:24.27 | Eraclito | the one in eversong is... nothing |
| 05:24.35 | Eraclito | some quest near, no clear explanation about |
| 05:24.40 | Eraclito | and there's a hidden raid portal |
| 05:24.56 | Amarande | something we'll see in a later cata patch maybe? |
| 05:25.15 | Eraclito | more like in a later tbc patch in their minds |
| 05:25.17 | Amarande | unless that's even something we won't see till 90 |
| 05:25.34 | Amarande | since it seems they have cata's path mapped out already |
| 05:25.49 | Amarande | then again even wotlk has had unexpected things |
| 05:25.57 | Amarande | I don't think the argent tournament was something anyone knew about before wotlk |
| 05:25.59 | Eraclito | their chance to fix the old world is now, i don't think they're going to do it again and again |
| 05:26.13 | Eraclito | if they waste it we'll have to keep ghostlands as they're now |
| 05:26.42 | Eraclito | they said only that argent tournament should have been in crystalsong forest |
| 05:26.43 | Amarande | btw, what's this red something or other dungeon I'm hearing about for wotlk? |
| 05:26.56 | kd3 | the ruby sanctum |
| 05:27.01 | kd3 | new wing below wyrmrest |
| 05:27.07 | kd3 | plays into the cata storyline |
| 05:27.24 | Eraclito | another raid i'll skip because i can't stfu in the guilds |
| 05:27.27 | Amarande | kd3: ilvl 280-299 I'm presuming? |
| 05:27.41 | kd3 | no. mid-level icc stuff |
| 05:27.43 | Amarande | since it sounds like cata gear starts at 300 based on the enchanting stuff I read |
| 05:27.45 | kd3 | same way ony wasn't a new tear |
| 05:27.48 | kd3 | s/tear/tier/ |
| 05:27.57 | Amarande | so 285-299 don't and won't exist then. |
| 05:28.03 | kd3 | leveling gear |
| 05:28.10 | Amarande | wait |
| 05:28.17 | Amarande | cata enchants not only only work on cata gear, but only on MAX LEVEL cata gear? |
| 05:28.22 | Amarande | you have to use wotlk enchants 81-84? |
| 05:28.41 | Amarande | and maybe even pre-raid 85? |
| 05:28.43 | kd3 | because you're levelling, it's not like 81-84 is a big deal. I don't think I chanted once 71-79 |
| 05:28.56 | Eraclito | i did while leveling enchanting |
| 05:28.58 | kd3 | I expect ilvl300 will be baseline blues at 85 |
| 05:29.07 | kd3 | much like ilvl200 was baseline blues at 80 |
| 05:29.20 | Eraclito | also i will no change gear until the first raid tier, and i hope the dungeon finder will accept my lazy ass in heroics |
| 05:29.53 | Amarande | Erac: wonder what will become of newer DKs with that, too |
| 05:30.03 | Eraclito | i did naxxramas in t4-5 gear, i hope to raid with t10 |
| 05:30.14 | Amarande | as the baseline ilvl goes up, the possibility that that starter sigil might drag them down out of heroic-ability seems like it would ever increase |
| 05:30.51 | Amarande | meaning they'd have to either manage to get into long abandoned 80 groups before they could get into 85 heroics just so they can get emblems for a sigil, or will have to hope the 74 grizzly hills sigils are high enough to keep their average up? |
| 05:30.57 | Eraclito | well they'll said that relics aren't going to be class-unique anymore |
| 05:31.17 | Amarande | and actually, relic classes in general, are they going to have trouble getting into heroics because of the ilvl average thing? |
| 05:31.24 | Eraclito | so there'll be quest reward like a strength relic easy to get |
| 05:31.27 | Amarande | since generally there are few or even no relics available in an expansion before max level |
| 05:31.36 | Amarande | ah, like that hellfire quest in BC |
| 05:31.43 | Eraclito | actually no, but in cata they will no be anymore so hard to find |
| 05:31.50 | Amarande | actually, wait a minute ... that was from that G3 quest, that can't be soloed wasn't it :| |
| 05:31.52 | Eraclito | because they'll be more like wands or guns |
| 05:32.18 | Amarande | the one with the stupid colored rock giants, if I remember |
| 05:32.46 | Amarande | why were they so lazy about relics in earlier expansions anyway |
| 05:33.05 | Amarande | (and basically making DKs, a *new WotLK class* stick with the starter sigil till 74 at least and more commonly 80) |
| 05:33.06 | kd3 | warrior gear with spirit? |
| 05:33.13 | kd3 | yawns |
| 05:33.45 | Eraclito | warrior gear wat |
| 05:34.25 | kd3 | the devs didn't get itemization figured out until a good ways into the game |
| 05:34.35 | kd3 | just roll with the punches |
| 05:35.15 | Eraclito | during my baron runs i remember i dropped a boe world epic |
| 05:35.26 | Amarande | kd3: besides, the fact that gear items so easily lend themselves to BiS itemization lists may not be such a great thing anyway :| |
| 05:35.32 | Eraclito | like a mail shoulder with agi and spirit, i died a bit inside |
| 05:35.35 | Amarande | people should actually have to make decisions and tradeoffs in gearing |
| 05:35.42 | Amarande | you have to do it in every other RPG, why not WoW? |
| 05:35.48 | kd3 | which is what the devs are planning on in cata |
| 05:35.57 | kd3 | even more so than it has been in the past |
| 05:36.10 | Amarande | Eraclito: agi and spirit mail? meant for shamans I'm sure |
| 05:36.12 | Eraclito | http://www.mmo-champion.com/old-world-changes/she%27s-alive!!!!/ <- ...really? |
| 05:38.22 | Amarande | wait a minute |
| 05:38.26 | Amarande | I'm not finding this item at all, Eraclito |
| 05:38.37 | Amarande | there are only three BoE epic shoulder pieces pre-BC |
| 05:38.48 | Amarande | two are crafted, and the other one is plate with stam, spirit, and defense rating |
| 05:39.01 | Amarande | (the latter, I guess, would be most useful for a tankadin, if tankadins had been viable back then that is ...) |
| 05:39.06 | Eraclito | mmh i'm not sure they were shoulder... maybe they just used a shoulder icon |
| 05:39.09 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Battlegear_of_Valor |
| 05:39.13 | kd3 | +35 spirit |
| 05:39.15 | Eraclito | i still have'em in my bank character |
| 05:39.15 | kd3 | warrior gear |
| 05:39.17 | kd3 | >.> |
| 05:39.28 | Eraclito | tbc druid gear looked way worse |
| 05:39.41 | Eraclito | let me check cenarion expedition rewards... |
| 05:40.07 | Eraclito | http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=742 ! |
| 05:40.18 | Amarande | oh, will Cata finally reveal who Edward the Odd is, btw? :) |
| 05:41.25 | Eraclito | oh Amarande it was a head http://www.wowhead.com/item=2245 not shoulders |
| 05:41.39 | Eraclito | 32 stamina! 18 spirit! 13 agi! |
| 05:41.59 | Eraclito | (who's edward the odd?) |
| 05:42.21 | Amarande | his name appears on a number of epic items |
| 05:42.43 | kd3 | [[Edward the Odd]] |
| 05:42.51 | kd3 | ...bah, the bot's not in here |
| 05:42.56 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Edward_the_Odd |
| 05:43.09 | Amarande | hmm, wonder what that helm would be good for |
| 05:43.16 | Amarande | obviously a mana user who deals physical damage |
| 05:43.23 | Amarande | so would have to be a hunter or shaman |
| 05:44.04 | Eraclito | i think they didn't have a good idea of "hybrids" |
| 05:44.07 | Eraclito | until late tbc |
| 05:44.10 | Amarande | hunters could desperately use better mana regen :) but 1) you need a ton of spirit to get reasonable mp5 and 2) hunters are in FSR almost all the time (they go into it every time they use something that uses mana, right?) |
| 05:44.15 | Amarande | shamans, maybe |
| 05:44.28 | Eraclito | http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=742 <- i mean, what's the reason behind this? |
| 05:44.28 | Amarande | yeah, that looks like a shammy helm to me |
| 05:44.29 | Jamash | I think they didn't know wtf they were doing with itemization sub-60 |
| 05:44.58 | Amarande | Jamash: given that it's a shaman looking item with a ton of stam |
| 05:45.13 | Amarande | I think at the point they made the item they may have thought that shamans were still going to possibly have a tanking role |
| 05:45.32 | Eraclito | http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=584 <- this too, intellect and spellpower in a feral set |
| 05:45.42 | Amarande | (there seems to be some evidence they were originally slated for one, at any rate, given the Druid and Paladin being tri-specced and the fact that shamans can wear shields, which seems unusual if they weren't going to be able to tank) |
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| 05:46.30 | Jamash | shamans did have a tanking role |
| 05:46.37 | Jamash | they were reasonable offtanks in classic |
| 05:46.37 | Amarande | yeah, that looks like a tank-shaman item |
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| 05:47.05 | Eraclito | oh it's pretty late |
| 05:47.11 | Eraclito | i need to work afternoon |
| 05:47.57 | Eraclito | have a good... night? day? whatever you live :P |
| 05:53.48 | Jamash | I remember when crafted hunter gear all had spirit on it |
| 05:54.17 | Amarande | Jamash: did hunters run out of mana noticeably less frequently back then? :) |
| 05:54.27 | Jamash | no |
| 05:54.59 | Jamash | spirit is 100% useless to hunters |
| 05:55.09 | Jamash | back then we feigned death and drank :( |
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| 06:29.02 | Arrowmaster | i know a hunter that was dual wielding weapons with +22 int on them back in classic |
| 06:29.22 | Arrowmaster | they were his pvp/AV weapons |
| 06:29.49 | Arrowmaster | this hunter also had a ToEP but he didnt use it |
| 06:37.34 | Jamash | I used to have a +healing set |
| 06:37.43 | Jamash | back when it affected mend pet |
| 06:38.32 | Jamash | before that one dwarf hunter soloed Azuregos and got it nerfed :( |
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| 08:34.35 | g0urra | kd3, which anime/manga is your avatar from |
| 08:36.30 | Fisker | your mom g0urra |
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| 08:55.19 | Amarande | heh AMC just showed their "Story Matters Here" logo |
| 08:55.24 | Amarande | ... in the middle of a grade Z horror movie |
| 08:58.52 | Amarande | BTW, Vladoka has decided she really, really, really effing hates water elementals |
| 09:00.46 | Amarande | I imagine Mornienya also will. :) |
| 09:00.49 | Amarande | For the same reason. |
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| 11:59.22 | pcj | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176408/Q_A_Facebook_exec_defends_site_s_privacy_policies |
| 12:01.17 | pcj | hey bibi fix your bluetracker |
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| 14:01.10 | Ose | has blizz said anything about the beta yet? will there be opt-ins like with WotLK? |
| 14:01.36 | Ward | Blizz has said nothing |
| 14:01.49 | Ose | meh |
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| 14:16.11 | Kirkburn | From what I know: |
| 14:16.17 | Kirkburn | We will get beta keys to hand out |
| 14:16.33 | Kirkburn | There will be opt-ins, and make sure you've opted in in Battle.net |
| 14:16.57 | Kirkburn | There is no info on when the alpha will end/beta will start |
| 14:19.42 | Ward | I don't want in the beta |
| 14:19.49 | Ward | I want a fresh experience when the game goes live |
| 14:24.19 | Fisker | haha Kirkburn |
| 14:24.31 | Fisker | got an answer to my complaint about a 7 day ban for a smiley |
| 14:24.44 | Fisker | "We don't typically discuss suspensions of that short duration" |
| 14:24.46 | Fisker | kek |
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| 17:39.03 | Cooobra | "we wanted to extend our thanks to everyone for sticking with us and being so supportive of not posting or leaking content. We know this isnât easy and understand the frustrations some of you may be experiencing, but we have plans to help with this and will be getting back to you as soon as possible with more details on those plans." |
| 17:39.11 | Cooobra | It's beta keys right |
| 17:39.20 | Cooobra | for everyone |
| 17:39.36 | Cooobra | free touring rocket? |
| 17:39.43 | Cooobra | A PONY!? |
| 17:40.08 | Cooobra | a pony helps with all issues |
| 17:41.52 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 17:41.56 | Kirkburn | When I know, you'll know :) |
| 17:42.05 | Kirkburn | Possibly even the other way around |
| 17:42.23 | Cooobra | lol |
| 17:43.30 | Kirkburn | Bibi ... sooo, more screenies coming? I wonder what fun stuff you're creating a news post around now ... |
| 17:45.08 | Cooobra | It's nice they're putting Rockard into the game... I'm guessing as another Horde base... We need screenies of that Bibi |
| 17:45.11 | Kirkburn | I was looking thru the Dustwallow pics, you managed to *just* entirely miss out showing the new bridge :P |
| 17:45.30 | Kirkburn | Rockard ... that's in SoS? |
| 17:45.39 | Cooobra | blasted lands |
| 17:45.47 | Cooobra | replacing dreadmaul outpost |
| 17:46.00 | Kirkburn | Ah, well was close |
| 17:46.08 | Kirkburn | Remembered seeing it near Stoneard on the old maps |
| 17:46.08 | Cooobra | lol |
| 17:46.21 | Kirkburn | *stonard |
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| 17:46.29 | Kirkburn | Location makes sense, too |
| 17:46.33 | Cooobra | aye |
| 17:47.02 | Cooobra | and its about time those silly humans made a bridge... not everyone had a shammy to cast water walking |
| 17:48.22 | Cooobra | Hmm... with the whole west side of feralas destroyed ... I cause the ship that traveled between was destroyed too |
| 17:48.28 | Cooobra | guess* |
| 17:48.42 | Kirkburn | Well, I assume you travel back to the ruins somehow |
| 17:49.02 | Cooobra | swim... or water mount... they'll have to have soemthing for 1000needles too |
| 17:49.23 | Cooobra | rent a canoe from the tauren |
| 17:49.44 | Kirkburn | those poor centaur... |
| 17:49.57 | Cooobra | seems like they survived though |
| 17:50.28 | Kirkburn | I suppose yeah, they retreated to the high ground |
| 17:51.26 | Cooobra | and its interesting the .. well I guess Islands now.. between the grimtotem's Dark pinnacle and Freewind Post are connected by bridges... maybe they're friendly now... |
| 17:52.31 | Kirkburn | The grimtotem plot should be an interesting one |
| 17:53.01 | Kirkburn | Didn't the Dustwallow Marsh update show them up basically as traitors, though? |
| 17:53.09 | Cooobra | yea... cause I'm still not sure if everything moved towards the future... or just certain things |
| 17:53.30 | Cooobra | it showed they were working with the forsaken on a plot |
| 17:53.46 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 17:53.48 | Cooobra | or rather... the Royal apothecarys rebel grp |
| 17:53.56 | Cooobra | maybe |
| 17:53.58 | Kirkburn | yeah, that side should be "okay" now |
| 17:54.30 | Kirkburn | By the way, my early beta-ing may consist of spending hours upon hours in Kezan. |
| 17:54.37 | Cooobra | lol |
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| 17:54.40 | Kirkburn | Days, perhaps |
| 17:54.45 | Kirkburn | I'll never do the quest to leave. |
| 17:55.01 | Cooobra | gambling there? |
| 17:55.34 | Cooobra | running of the hobgoblins |
| 17:55.52 | Kirkburn | sitting in the jacuzzi |
| 17:55.56 | Kirkburn | Riding the rocketways |
| 17:56.15 | Kirkburn | I like the idea that the fast travel system around Azshara will be the rocketway |
| 17:56.28 | Cooobra | poor kobolds... or should I say Troggs 2.0 ... /sigh, blizzard took their candle |
| 17:56.55 | Cooobra | is that what that was |
| 17:57.42 | Cooobra | hope the shipwreck crew got out safely ... the water rose and their outpost is surely underwater |
| 17:58.18 | Cooobra | ... or a bunch of boulders got them... either way |
| 17:59.01 | Cooobra | There's a little known area to revisit... the sunken ship far south of azshara |
| 17:59.32 | Cooobra | the Horizon Scout |
| 18:00.22 | Kirkburn | I suspect they are just troggs ... the current model for them is sooooo bad compared to pretty much everything |
| 18:00.44 | Kirkburn | Plus ... gnomeregan. Good opportunity to update. |
| 18:00.59 | Kirkburn | hell, might be full of them too |
| 18:01.34 | Kirkburn | Shipwreck Cove, off Tanaris? |
| 18:01.42 | Cooobra | that's what I was thinking.. cause if they changed the Kobolds... I didn't see any new northrend ones with ice stuck them and such |
| 18:02.20 | Cooobra | maybe those couple of islands south of tanaris will get used, more so |
| 18:02.28 | Cooobra | ... or be gone |
| 18:02.36 | Kirkburn | I just made up Shipwreck Cove |
| 18:02.47 | Kirkburn | Lost Rigger Cove is the pirate place in Tanaris |
| 18:02.51 | Kirkburn | It's still there |
| 18:03.16 | Cooobra | did they finally finish building that ship lol |
| 18:03.20 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:03.47 | Kirkburn | The far southern island seem to be gone |
| 18:03.50 | Fisker | hey Kirkburn and Cooobra |
| 18:04.10 | Fisker | remember Kirkburn |
| 18:04.18 | Fisker | you owe me one |
| 18:04.41 | Cooobra | hands Fisker a $1. |
| 18:05.15 | Fisker | no |
| 18:05.20 | Kirkburn | I remember Kirkburn |
| 18:05.28 | Kirkburn | remembers Kirkburn |
| 18:05.29 | Fisker | And it's beta Kirkburn |
| 18:05.33 | Fisker | i remember you |
| 18:05.35 | Fisker | in the mountains |
| 18:05.47 | Kirkburn | Not, I'm gold, v1.0, release Kirkburn |
| 18:05.54 | Kirkburn | *nope |
| 18:06.24 | Fisker | not you |
| 18:06.36 | Kirkburn | Different Kirkburn? |
| 18:07.09 | Cooobra | BURN! |
| 18:07.40 | Cooobra | I miss those fire giants doing that jumping fire debuff in Ulduar |
| 18:08.04 | Fisker | cataclysm of course Kirkburn |
| 18:08.47 | Cooobra | Cataclysm is a myth |
| 18:09.31 | Fisker | no |
| 18:09.37 | Cooobra | a rumor? |
| 18:09.39 | Fisker | no |
| 18:09.47 | Fisker | give me that damn beta key or i'll cut you! |
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| 18:09.59 | Cooobra | heres your beta key 1684357318567879 |
| 18:10.56 | Cooobra | durator with its own dock... how... interesting, we needed ships |
| 18:11.53 | Fisker | hey Cooobra |
| 18:11.57 | Fisker | imma posting leaks |
| 18:12.09 | Cooobra | grr |
| 18:12.22 | Cooobra | I flush leaks |
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| 18:13.05 | fbxxkl | Craptastic, i upgrade to 10.04 Ubuntu and WoW is crashing my system... dunno why I thought that was a good idea |
| 18:13.10 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 18:13.24 | Kirkburn | Fisker, they see me trollin'... |
| 18:14.03 | Fisker | you're trolling Kirkburn ? |
| 18:14.19 | Cooobra | Wonder if they'll use that new Horde ship design.. every image I see, they're docked in a way that shows they won't be used |
| 18:14.22 | Kirkburn | I was, you, about five minutes ago, yes :) |
| 18:14.54 | Fisker | no |
| 18:15.16 | Kirkburn | Whoever had the idea of the goblins reshaping Azshara into the Horde emblem has my utmost respect - such a great idea |
| 18:15.26 | Fisker | old |
| 18:16.00 | Kirkburn | Why yes, I have stated that before |
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| 18:16.49 | Cooobra | Yes... but where did those little islands come from to complete it |
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| 18:17.37 | Cooobra | so now... Org will have 3 ways to sneak in... in all directions |
| 18:18.22 | Cooobra | Notice the old BE outpost is now a NE outpost |
| 18:18.24 | Fisker | yeah old |
| 18:18.30 | Fisker | also we can fly |
| 18:18.35 | Alram | WHAT |
| 18:19.10 | Cooobra | WHO |
| 18:19.30 | Kirkburn | Cooobra, they levelled a mountain |
| 18:19.53 | Kirkburn | The one that was once to be used as a battleground, Azshara Crater (ironic name now, I guess) |
| 18:20.02 | Cooobra | lol |
| 18:21.01 | Cooobra | The volcano in Ashenvale destoryed some dyrad shrine that played a role in getting the furbolg staff |
| 18:22.00 | Cooobra | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/cataclysm_models_npc/big/ogre.jpg -- Whats so new about it? |
| 18:22.40 | Kirkburn | faceplate? |
| 18:23.21 | Cooobra | nope all OgreMageLord's have them |
| 18:23.43 | Fisker | no they don't Cooobra |
| 18:23.44 | Bibi | higher res texture |
| 18:23.44 | Fisker | baw |
| 18:23.45 | Bibi | I think. |
| 18:23.45 | Bibi | :( |
| 18:23.50 | Bibi | I missed tons of new models anyway |
| 18:24.01 | Cooobra | =P |
| 18:24.06 | Bibi | I didn't even post the tauren paladin mount |
| 18:24.09 | Fisker | i can say for certain that no ogremagelord i've ever seen has had a faceplate |
| 18:24.11 | Fisker | yeah Bibi |
| 18:24.14 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 18:24.16 | Cooobra | OMG TAUREN PALLY MOUNT |
| 18:24.27 | Cooobra | ... a white cow |
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| 18:24.38 | Fisker | a holy cow |
| 18:24.50 | Bibi | yeah |
| 18:24.50 | Bibi | no. |
| 18:24.54 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/uberkodo1.jpg |
| 18:24.56 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/uberkodo2.jpg |
| 18:25.59 | Cooobra | oh... how disappointing |
| 18:26.14 | Kirkburn | Disco kodo |
| 18:26.18 | Cooobra | lol |
| 18:26.59 | Cooobra | well, I guess the looks make sense... they are Sunwalkers or something |
| 18:27.07 | Kirkburn | (Comparing the alpha minimap and mapwow.com is quite enlightening) |
| 18:27.23 | Kirkburn | yeah sunwalker |
| 18:28.50 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/eeeeeew.jpg |
| 18:29.19 | Cooobra | whoa... what the heck |
| 18:29.20 | Kirkburn | I believe that to be an Ettin |
| 18:29.44 | Kirkburn | Certainly ettins are in the Gilneas hills, and have two heads |
| 18:29.45 | Cooobra | I was going to say a starving Ogre ... |
| 18:30.17 | Cooobra | he has goat |
| 18:30.37 | Kirkburn | Roof on his arm matches Gilneas style |
| 18:30.45 | Kirkburn | Yup, I'm going with ettin |
| 18:30.59 | Kirkburn | They had gronn placeholders at BlizzCon |
| 18:31.14 | Cooobra | thank goodness he's wearing a horde tent... |
| 18:32.32 | Cooobra | Undercity is going to be a nice place to hang out |
| 18:33.37 | Cooobra | YES ... a road leading from Agmand Mills to the other side without having to go around that dang mtn |
| 18:33.47 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 18:36.30 | Cooobra | LOL ... I knew Menethil harbor would be flooded |
| 18:36.54 | Sky2042_afk | :O! |
| 18:37.27 | Cooobra | Looks like only the keep survived |
| 18:37.53 | Sky2042_afk | Is that underwater as well? |
| 18:37.59 | Cooobra | Aww... the ship docked there for re-supplies sank |
| 18:38.09 | Cooobra | No seems the keep is higher up |
| 18:38.23 | Cooobra | So .. probably still used |
| 18:38.57 | Sky2042_afk | How would you get into a keep like that...? |
| 18:39.05 | Cooobra | the front door |
| 18:39.08 | Cooobra | =P |
| 18:39.19 | Sky2042_afk | Meh |
| 18:39.31 | Cooobra | though I could be wrong... seems to be some alliance buildings in the middle of Wetlands now |
| 18:39.39 | Cooobra | that could be the new alliance base |
| 18:39.51 | Sky2042_afk | The relocated probably. |
| 18:40.09 | Cooobra | OMG |
| 18:40.11 | Sky2042_afk | And with that! |
| 18:40.22 | Cooobra | ... No more loch modan lake =( |
| 18:41.27 | Eraclito | it's a lot more little |
| 18:43.46 | Kirkburn | Cooobra, yeah, they're NE buildings |
| 18:45.18 | Cooobra | Hmm... sad... the bridge is still being fixed in Redridge mtns |
| 18:45.29 | Cooobra | Humans are slow workers |
| 18:47.41 | Cooobra | Now thats just mean.... destroying a mostly empty and unused park in Stormwind... so much for easy access to a moonwell |
| 18:48.11 | Kirkburn | An interesting suggestion I've heard involves phasing |
| 18:48.30 | Kirkburn | Since we've heard the worgen get a SW district |
| 18:49.18 | Cooobra | well, as many areas they've given Stormwind... they could let the park stay destroyed and have plenty of room for 3 new race districts |
| 18:49.42 | Kirkburn | I suppose they could take old town, but that's kinda the rogue/warror quarter |
| 18:49.56 | Kirkburn | Mage, cathedral seems weird |
| 18:50.04 | Kirkburn | dwarven is well .. dwarven :P |
| 18:50.06 | Cooobra | they placed some building behind old town too... |
| 18:50.21 | Kirkburn | One :P |
| 18:50.42 | Kirkburn | I am pleasantly surprised by the new keep. But then again, almost anything is better than the current one |
| 18:50.47 | Cooobra | probably the new SI headquarters |
| 18:52.18 | Kirkburn | "Ever wondered how the tram goes underwater when there's giant mountains between the two cities? Well ... it's actually a massive lake! Hah! Gotcha!" |
| 18:52.22 | Cooobra | Heh.. in an attempt to make the tram make sense.. that empty zone is replaced with an ocean |
| 18:52.29 | Cooobra | >< |
| 18:52.31 | Kirkburn | timing... |
| 18:53.16 | Cooobra | fine..but If I go searching those waters... I expect to find Nessy |
| 18:55.23 | Cooobra | oh... Sentinel Hill is now an official fort .. walls and and and... a working inn |
| 18:57.52 | Cooobra | Hmm... either the lost ones of swamp of sorrows were killed off.. or they were ... "saved" |
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| 19:01.45 | Cooobra | Did they say they were splitting STV into two zones as well, like the Barrens? |
| 19:06.52 | Fisker | nothing i've heard about atleast |
| 19:07.28 | Kirkburn | I think it was considered |
| 19:07.36 | Kirkburn | Certainly they gave the impression a lot of changes were coming |
| 19:07.47 | Fisker | well the whole leveling experience is redesigned |
| 19:07.50 | Fisker | so it might be that |
| 19:07.53 | Kirkburn | Judging by the map, there's a good point for a split now |
| 19:09.05 | Cooobra | aye |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker | always been like that |
| 19:09.28 | Cooobra | lies |
| 19:09.56 | Cooobra | I know a whirlpool never existed |
| 19:10.31 | Fisker | i'm talking about the split |
| 19:10.46 | Cooobra | poor Sin'Dall ... |
| 19:11.27 | Eraclito | did you see the dun morogh changes? |
| 19:11.29 | Eraclito | it's pretty different |
| 19:11.53 | Cooobra | yea... the ice... got more icey |
| 19:13.33 | Cooobra | not Sin'Dall... |
| 19:13.35 | Cooobra | poor King Bangalash |
| 19:14.07 | Cooobra | his little bluff was split in two |
| 19:14.21 | Eraclito | http://i41.tinypic.com/n2o2fr.png <- dun morogh in alpha |
| 19:14.37 | Eraclito | the gnomeregan zone is totally different, new mountains, new roads, an avalanche |
| 19:14.52 | Eraclito | and the ice... got more icey, kinda |
| 19:15.24 | Eraclito | also the lake in the ironforge airfield isn't totally frozen |
| 19:15.44 | Cooobra | oh... all the whiteness was mixing in and I really didn't see any difference lol |
| 19:16.32 | Eraclito | yeah me too, it's too white to realize soon |
| 19:16.36 | Eraclito | i had to check some times |
| 19:18.10 | Eraclito | the road between swamp of sorrows and burning steppes seems too "fake" |
| 19:18.20 | Eraclito | there're no roads like that in real life |
| 19:18.28 | Cooobra | Hmm... really looks like they prepared the place for two different starting areas... gnomes in the western part and dwarves in the southern |
| 19:18.32 | Eraclito | (in b4 we don't have giant dragons destroying the world) |
| 19:18.52 | Cooobra | meeting up at that bridge or gateway in the middle |
| 19:19.06 | Eraclito | kharanos |
| 19:19.40 | Cooobra | tot he west of that along the road is some sort of gate |
| 19:20.38 | Eraclito | there's a giant ring |
| 19:21.10 | Eraclito | i think there's a screenshot from mmo |
| 19:21.44 | Cooobra | ah.. a cog |
| 19:21.49 | Cooobra | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/dunmorogh_10.jpg |
| 19:22.09 | Eraclito | right |
| 19:22.14 | Eraclito | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/dunmorogh_09.jpg and this is the new road from kharanos |
| 19:22.31 | Fisker | Cooobra |
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| 19:24.04 | Cooobra | seems they've retaken the quarry too |
| 19:24.11 | Fisker | it's my annoying emote spam |
| 19:24.43 | Eraclito | i hope they're going to connect ironforge with the airfield |
| 19:24.57 | Eraclito | i don't have a sandbox, but someone told me the tunnel is still snow blocked |
| 19:25.34 | Cooobra | o |
| 19:25.39 | Cooobra | i'm sure they will |
| 19:27.24 | Cooobra | jduging by that alliance banner in Moonbrook.. I'm guessing the defias have been pushed back |
| 19:27.38 | Eraclito | it's about the time :P they got it for years |
| 19:27.58 | Eraclito | oh there's a dwarven tunnel in arathi highlands |
| 19:28.02 | Eraclito | leading to hinterlands |
| 19:28.24 | Eraclito | but i think they still need to work in arathi, the east zone is still flat and untextured |
| 19:29.00 | Eraclito | and there's no neutral port between hinterlands and plaguelands |
| 19:29.07 | Eraclito | ...but there's one in swamp of sorrows |
| 19:29.23 | Cooobra | heh |
| 19:29.55 | Cooobra | Silly humans/dwarves ... tried using sandbags in menethil harbor to block the water |
| 19:30.27 | Eraclito | well it's now a lot more wet |
| 19:30.34 | Eraclito | it fits the zone better |
| 19:31.14 | Cooobra | they need to build a dam and have gnomes take buckets and clean up the place |
| 19:31.58 | Eraclito | but gnomes aren't tall enough to walk in the water, they'll drown |
| 19:32.18 | Cooobra | ... whats your point? |
| 19:33.44 | Cooobra | Aww... thought they said Southshore was lost |
| 19:34.30 | Cooobra | Hopefully it will be on the list of things to destroy during beta |
| 19:34.32 | Eraclito | i think southshore isn't implemented yet |
| 19:34.48 | Cooobra | That would have been first on my list |
| 19:34.51 | Eraclito | hillsbrad, hinterlands, arathi, eastern plaguelands |
| 19:34.59 | Eraclito | are still with loads of zone untextured |
| 19:35.05 | Eraclito | without any edit at all |
| 19:35.14 | Eraclito | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.42 | Eraclito | the huge mountain in west eastern plaguelands is still like it's now, the east arathi zone, also the western tirisifal |
| 19:36.02 | Kirkburn | Yeah, at least one place in WotLK was destroyed during beta |
| 19:36.22 | Kirkburn | Kaskala |
| 19:36.48 | Cooobra | poor tuskarr... they really didn't get the justice they deserved |
| 19:36.58 | Fisker | i blow you up Kirkburn |
| 19:37.08 | Cooobra | O.o |
| 19:41.44 | Cooobra | Looks like the CC are working their magic in felwood |
| 19:42.30 | Eraclito | looks like they started doing something... :P |
| 19:42.42 | Cooobra | yea.. finally |
| 19:42.43 | Eraclito | it's cool how we did a ton of quests over years |
| 19:42.50 | Eraclito | and they're still lazying around |
| 19:43.04 | Cooobra | even the horde base has expanded |
| 19:43.30 | Cooobra | I guess the NEs grew a dark tree |
| 19:43.47 | Cooobra | or worgen area now |
| 19:44.53 | Eraclito | i think i saw some darnassus banners around felwood |
| 19:47.06 | Cooobra | Org looks nice... seems like there's a troll area |
| 19:47.21 | Fisker | i really like how Orgrimmar turned out |
| 19:47.27 | Fisker | except for the third backdoor of course |
| 19:47.49 | Fisker | though it may not be that big of an issue anymore :P |
| 19:47.54 | Eraclito | well we can now fly to the cities |
| 19:48.09 | Cooobra | depending on how they handle flight in cities... could end up being like dalaran |
| 19:48.24 | foxlit | expect to get AA'ed to the face |
| 19:48.30 | Eraclito | i think they will be more like the owning faction can fly |
| 19:48.31 | Cooobra | lol |
| 19:48.35 | Eraclito | the opposite will be shot |
| 19:49.33 | Fisker | it kinda looks like the trolls have been removed from orgrimmar |
| 19:50.18 | Fisker | basically the trolls are operation human shield |
| 19:50.37 | Cooobra | tauren have their own area... I'm still going through the screeenies |
| 19:51.02 | Cooobra | goblins too |
| 19:51.16 | Fisker | yeah goblins are part of operation human shield as well |
| 19:51.21 | Cooobra | and trolls |
| 19:51.28 | Cooobra | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/orgrimmar_19.jpg |
| 19:51.39 | Fisker | the new bank looks awesome |
| 19:51.48 | Fisker | yeah that's what i mean |
| 19:51.56 | Fisker | they're both outside "main orgrimmar" |
| 19:52.02 | Eraclito | they really removed the zeppelin towers from outside orgrimmar? |
| 19:52.24 | Cooobra | we've switched to boats... see dock |
| 19:52.35 | Fisker | what dock? :o |
| 19:52.57 | Fisker | fuck the architechture is sweet |
| 19:53.10 | Cooobra | dock in durotar |
| 19:53.12 | Fisker | i was kinda expecting warsong hold v2 |
| 19:53.16 | Fisker | but it's much nicer |
| 19:53.28 | Cooobra | looks like a huge Juggernaut docked there |
| 19:54.42 | Cooobra | with rockets |
| 19:55.24 | Fisker | i sure hope it won't have this "half-finished" look throughout the expansion |
| 19:55.32 | Fisker | screenshot? |
| 19:55.34 | Fisker | don't ha ve one :o |
| 19:55.37 | Fisker | have* |
| 19:58.36 | Fisker | http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326733 <-lol |
| 19:59.59 | Cooobra | Hmm... I guess that gateway in Azshara to the timbermaw hold was replaced with a furbolg entrance ... to now Blackmaw hold |
| 20:01.53 | Eraclito | well timbermaw hold should have been big enough to move under all the mount hyjal, if that entrance was true loreside |
| 20:02.00 | Cooobra | aye |
| 20:15.24 | Cooobra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:16.35 | Cooobra | and how is it not underwater... it's the same height as waterspring fields and moonshoud ruins... and steamwheedle port >< |
| 20:22.03 | Kaso | Cooobra, they only just finished it then cataclysm happened and wrecked it so they had to start again |
| 20:24.26 | Cooobra | HA |
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| 20:26.40 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:27.16 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing there will be a rushing waterway about 1/3 of the way up EK, all the way across |
| 20:27.32 | Cooobra | O.o ... an actual auction house designed to be one .. in stormwind... Niceee |
| 20:27.34 | Kirkburn | Er, halfway up EK |
| 20:27.50 | Kirkburn | Cooobra, first thought I had on seeing that? Man, that fountain is going to be busy. |
| 20:28.03 | Cooobra | hope they do something with the unused area in Eastern.. eastern plaguelands |
| 20:28.58 | Kirkburn | NW of it they have to do, but NE could be blocked by a portal wall |
| 20:29.13 | Cooobra | ooo and the bank.. good riddance to those red velvet ropes |
| 20:29.28 | Kirkburn | Well, they kept a few :P |
| 20:29.40 | Cooobra | but not in the way lol |
| 20:30.37 | Eraclito | i think they should add some kind of bolvar statue, because there're no npc who clicked on dalaran's fountain and saw what actually happened |
| 20:30.45 | Cooobra | but they really must have disliked the park area... |
| 20:30.50 | Fisker | hello Kirkburn |
| 20:31.37 | Cooobra | yea... built in the valley of heroes |
| 20:31.41 | Kirkburn | Eraclito, indeed :) |
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| 20:33.24 | Eraclito | there's also a tree in the middle of trade district in sw |
| 20:33.35 | Cooobra | they could name the paladin training building the Fordragon Institute |
| 20:33.36 | Eraclito | that's a good spot for a statue |
| 20:33.53 | Eraclito | there's a paladin training building? |
| 20:34.04 | Kirkburn | hey, I just realised ... no wonder the loch has gone. It has no water source... |
| 20:34.18 | Cooobra | so... it just ran out |
| 20:34.25 | Cooobra | don't be silly |
| 20:34.34 | Fisker | why won't you like me Kirkburn ? |
| 20:34.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 20:35.09 | Kirkburn | Fisker, there's only so many times I'll say hello to you in a day :) |
| 20:35.55 | Kirkburn | Cooobra, methinks someone should have added a stream from Dun Morogh in classic. But the gods were not so kind... |
| 20:35.57 | Cooobra | ... well... ones things for sure... the lunar festival is actually going to receive an update for next year |
| 20:36.16 | Eraclito | midsummer festivall too |
| 20:36.27 | Cooobra | aye |
| 20:36.34 | Eraclito | also brewfest inns achievement |
| 20:36.41 | Fisker | how many times will you give me a cataclysm beta key then Kirkburn ? |
| 20:36.52 | Cooobra | beta doesn't exist |
| 20:37.01 | Kirkburn | *Unknown* |
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| 20:37.18 | Eraclito | the beta is a lie |
| 20:37.24 | Fisker | it does Cooobra |
| 20:37.32 | Cooobra | sings I will not move when flame wreath is cast or the raid blows up |
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| 20:38.03 | Eraclito | i once moved when flame wreath was cast |
| 20:38.12 | Eraclito | i just turned on myself |
| 20:38.20 | Eraclito | the game thought i moved crossing the fire |
| 20:38.23 | Eraclito | *boom* |
| 20:38.46 | Fisker | i think we had one that overlapped once |
| 20:38.47 | Fisker | instant boom |
| 20:39.04 | Cooobra | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/1kneedles_34.jpg -- worgen? |
| 20:39.18 | Eraclito | more like twilight hammer |
| 20:39.22 | Eraclito | they have hammers |
| 20:40.12 | Cooobra | I'm thinking worgen cause of http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/stormwind_51.jpg |
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| 20:43.45 | Eraclito | i'm in love with cataclysm stormwind castle. damn varian, he got a taste on buildings |
| 20:43.47 | Cooobra | gotta to admit... when it comes to building new bases... Night elves are fast |
| 20:44.51 | Cooobra | everyone else takes 4 or so years... Night elves get something built soon after its destroyed in the cataclysm |
| 20:45.08 | Eraclito | westfall inn still needs a roof |
| 20:45.12 | Eraclito | humans are slackers |
| 20:46.05 | Cooobra | I'm going to laugh... if the entire fort is completed.. and you walk into the Inn and see roof damage with a peasant fixing it while mumbling "I just fixed this" |
| 20:47.03 | Cooobra | OH i see the image ... /sigh |
| 20:47.53 | Fisker | tugs himself into Kirkburn's bed |
| 20:48.24 | Cooobra | tucks? |
| 20:48.47 | Cooobra | cause um... the other way doesn't sound right |
| 20:52.28 | Cooobra | Hmm... looks like someone guessed right.. the zandalar trolls left that island they were on |
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| 20:52.36 | Kirkburn | Cooobra, nah, pretty sure those are twilight's hammer stuff |
| 20:52.55 | Kirkburn | They're the same as the Silithus crystals, plus ... well ... dragon heads |
| 20:54.28 | Cooobra | they're traitors in stormwind.... they've allowed the twilight hammer into their city |
| 20:54.47 | Cooobra | ... I blame the gnomes |
| 20:55.08 | Kirkburn | well, we know twilight cultists are involved in the launch event |
| 20:55.18 | Kirkburn | Possibly that stuff would get phased out? |
| 20:55.24 | Cooobra | hmm |
| 20:57.13 | Cooobra | they're really going to have fun designing goblins place... |
| 20:57.15 | Cooobra | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/stranglethorn_17.jpg |
| 20:58.41 | Kirkburn | Like I said, I bet I'll never want to leave Kezan :) |
| 20:59.25 | Cooobra | lol |
| 21:00.20 | Cooobra | =( .. I liked Kargath |
| 21:00.51 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 21:03.29 | Cooobra | hmm.. Deathwing must have accepted the quest to kill Boss Tho'grun .. and he doesn't mess around http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/badlands_01.jpg |
| 21:04.39 | Eraclito | "you're closing 79 tabs. are you sure?" maybe i opened too many screenshots |
| 21:05.24 | Cooobra | lol |
| 21:05.55 | Cooobra | Well... we already know the LHC will phase |
| 21:06.36 | Cooobra | well, guess it doesn't have to... the DKs see the place in an "instance" like place |
| 21:08.45 | Cooobra | Hmm... so are the Argent Dawn going to be referred to as the Argent Crusade from now on? since everything is in the future from this point |
| 21:12.10 | Cooobra | Blackrock stronghold looks like Nef's room... |
| 21:13.59 | Eraclito | old school players will like the blackrock zones |
| 21:16.11 | Cooobra | <-- Old school player |
| 21:16.52 | Cooobra | I tell ya... you don't break a range weapon more than once... unless lag does it for you |
| 21:17.30 | Cooobra | cause spending a whole fight slapping the boss.... |
| 21:20.01 | Eraclito | ouch |
| 21:20.01 | Cooobra | Well now..... what is this... a huge lake with an island and building between Feralas, Mulgore, and Desolace |
| 21:20.33 | Eraclito | i saw a ss with a strange sphere in that island |
| 21:20.44 | Eraclito | also the textures near the lake are still not good |
| 21:20.51 | Eraclito | it's still an alpha zone |
| 21:21.46 | Eraclito | i'm curious on how they're going to connect mulgore to northern barrens |
| 21:21.55 | Eraclito | if southern one is lv30 like they said in past |
| 21:22.07 | Eraclito | how are lv10 taurens going to level? |
| 21:22.14 | Cooobra | the zep to org |
| 21:23.36 | Kaso | the gate to mulgore appears to be permanently shut in the screenshots |
| 21:24.13 | Cooobra | looks like it... and they seem to have lost their starting zone |
| 21:24.43 | Cooobra | damn Quilboar |
| 21:27.06 | Eraclito | echo isles from above look really impressive |
| 21:32.31 | Cooobra | yea... an actual village, like it should be... not some burned down huts and randomly placed walls |
| 21:33.45 | Cooobra | you know what the green area in desolace reminds me of... the zerg hive crap that spreads ... |
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| 21:50.34 | kd3 | hm... so anything interesting happen while I was stuck at work? outside of bibi leaking more cata stuff? |
| 21:51.11 | Cooobra | Blizzard gave us all a pony... for keeping wowwiki clean of leaked info |
| 21:51.21 | kd3 | ooh |
| 21:51.28 | kd3 | we didn't get ponies for doing that during wrath |
| 21:51.48 | Eraclito | he leaked more cata stuff? :> |
| 21:52.11 | Cooobra | When you take a leak, you can't just stop |
| 21:52.13 | Cooobra | =P |
| 21:52.28 | Alram | Cooobra, but alpha has ponies too |
| 21:52.29 | Alram | http://marlamin.nl/Images/apony.jpg |
| 21:52.55 | kd3 | lmao |
| 21:52.59 | Cooobra | don't think i'll leave that goblin place |
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| 22:07.20 | resa1983 | Hey guys. Question for ya.. Is there a Cat & Userbox for Cata Alpha/Beta testers yet? |
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| 22:08.49 | Ward | wouldn't announcing this is on your page be a violation of the NDA? |
| 22:09.20 | resa1983 | putting information onto the wiki is violating NDA. |
| 22:09.32 | resa1983 | Stating you have access I don't believe does. |
| 22:10.07 | Ward | the fact that you're in the alpha, is information too :p |
| 22:10.17 | resa1983 | so? |
| 22:10.47 | resa1983 | read the NDA policy. |
| 22:12.16 | resa1983 | it says existance of alpha is under NDA - Its been broken by about a thousand people - most notably Boub from mmo-champ |
| 22:13.44 | Ward | that doesn't void the NDA ;p |
| 22:14.07 | resa1983 | The wiki itself says info from the alpha is under NDA. Everyone knows the Alpha is underway. |
| 22:14.31 | resa1983 | How is 1 person stating they have alpha access, violate NDA tho? |
| 22:14.35 | Cooobra | information from the alpha is NDA, not stating you're in the alpha |
| 22:15.08 | Cooobra | to answer your question... no user templates were made |
| 22:15.13 | Nechckn | If a person is not in the Alpha and has not signed a NDA, they are not covered by it. So, MMO-C can post whatever they like, theoretically. |
| 22:15.17 | resa1983 | okies. :) |
| 22:15.34 | Ward | we weren't talking about MMO C |
| 22:15.36 | Ward | but I agree |
| 22:15.47 | Ward | the NDA only applies to people who signed it |
| 22:16.08 | resa1983 | Ty Coobra. :) |
| 22:16.46 | Nechckn | Right, but that was resa1983's comment. But, yeah, fansites and such have other policies, much as wowwiki does. |
| 22:17.24 | Cooobra | yw |
| 22:24.01 | Fisker | Nechckn he's signed the NDA alright |
| 22:24.06 | Fisker | Blizzard just doesn't care |
| 22:25.37 | Nechckn | If so, then they could hammer him, but, as you note, they are highly unlikely to do so. Not this site, so not really an issue, anyway. |
| 22:26.25 | Nechckn | pets Fisker. |
| 22:29.06 | kd3 | oh resa, it's quite simple. I was in the wrath alpha last time around... yet there wasn't a mention of it anywhere on the site that I was participating. |
| 22:29.23 | kd3 | we've got a "I beta-tested wrath" userbox, but there won't be an alpha one |
| 22:30.22 | resa1983 | I found that one. I'll use that one. Don't wanna create a userbox for alpha which only a few will use. |
| 22:31.26 | resa1983 | I didn't even get an email from Blizz. Just logged into battle.net, and there it was. >.< |
| 22:34.34 | fbxxkl | If I have a trial in Battle.net how do I get rid of it? |
| 22:34.44 | kd3 | just let it expire |
| 22:35.33 | fbxxkl | It is expired |
| 22:35.37 | fbxxkl | but it won't go away |
| 22:35.48 | fbxxkl | it just says trial expired |
| 22:35.51 | resa1983 | I think you need to call Customer Service for that. |
| 22:36.02 | fbxxkl | ew |
| 22:36.07 | resa1983 | lol |
| 22:36.10 | fbxxkl | there should be a delete option under manage |
| 22:36.22 | fbxxkl | because calling customer support is way overkill |
| 22:38.18 | fbxxkl | the new zones look pretty cool |
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