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00:05.38Amberrock[[Forum:Relatives of NPCs]]
00:05.46Amberrockinput please :>
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10:37.15AdysAlram: got a wave invite avail still?
10:37.31Alramya
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19:51.52Dottedfailnode much?
19:52.17Oseindeed
19:52.30kd314:46:48> -Md- [GlobalNotice] sorry for the recent mass-kill issue! we are investigating what happened exactly
19:52.31kd3>.>
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19:53.00kd3yay, services
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19:54.28Dotted~say [[test]]
19:54.29infobot[[test]]
19:55.12kd3[[User:Kaydeethree/23]]
19:55.12Dottedkd3 meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/23
19:55.15kd3whee
19:55.28Dottedwtf
19:55.45Dottedoh well aslong as it works
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20:01.00Dotted~say !jq
20:01.01infobot!jq
20:01.02DottedThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently
20:01.07Dottedk,tgprfmel
20:01.48Dottedk,tgprfmel
20:01.50Dotted~say !jq
20:01.51infobot!jq
20:01.52DottedThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 23
20:03.02Dotted~say !jq
20:03.03infobot!jq
20:03.07DottedThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 0
20:03.12Dottedthere we go
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20:23.28kd3rofl: a username 'Cantyouidiotstellleftfromright'
20:23.58Dotted~say [[Win]]
20:23.59infobot[[Win]]
20:24.24Dottedah lol
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21:25.49pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mikkburn
21:26.40kd3...wha?
21:27.14Oseoh, its just that vandal Kirkburn again :P
21:56.18Amberrockit's not an actual user
21:58.48Oseno duh
21:58.53Amberrockcall me an ass but I tagged it for SD >_>
21:59.45g0urrayou're an ass
22:00.12Amberrockprobably, but there's no reason for that page to exist
22:01.56g0urraok
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22:11.55charitwohey g0urra
22:18.52Fiskerg0urra
22:18.58Fiskeri haven't
22:19.00Fiskercome this far
22:19.08Fiskerto not spam now
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22:38.05Sandwichman2448"When ever I ask someone for advice, they don't answer and take my ideas and job." - BobNamataki on why he adds stubs with no reason.
22:38.29Oseo.-
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22:41.02g0urraI wonder why he works so hard on adding his usual "I know the admin above can help you but I'm special too"
22:41.11g0urra+on talk pages
22:41.54Amberrockbecause he wants to become an admin himself?
22:42.06Amberrockhe wants to look humble, though helpful
22:42.30Sandwichman2448He wants to help, I guess.
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22:43.56Sandwichman2448Being annoying is (sadly) not a policy violation.
22:45.08Oseyou're an admin, make one :P
22:45.40kd3if we had a no-annoying rule we would've gotten rid of rolandius a long time before we did
22:45.45Adysit used to be a policy violation while I was still in charge
22:45.50Adyscf what kd3 just said
22:45.50Adys:P
22:46.12AmberrockSadly, some of the most wonderful contributors can be plain awful people
22:46.26Amberrockbut hey, they help the common cause: improving the wiki
22:46.37Amberrockthat's enough reason to keep them around
22:46.38Sandwichman2448A rule about 'general disruption'? I'm wondering on how that can backfire.
22:47.10Sandwichman2448But what if they do not improve the wiki? How does one judge that without envoking wrath?
22:48.15Amberrockanyone with mainspace or wiki-space edits that aren't rolled back could be considered helpful, I guess
22:48.31Sandwichman2448I may just propose something.
22:49.28g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Deadmines&diff=prev&oldid=2092499
22:49.30g0urrawait what
22:49.45Sandwichman2448The not rolled back thing leads to a quality vs quantity problem.
22:49.50Amberrockrofl g0urra
22:50.13Sandwichman2448Large edit...
22:50.20AmberrockSandwichman2448, it's impossible to prove whether someone is "disruptive"
22:50.36Amberrockpeople will just have to swallow that and wait until the annoying people ACTUALLY break a rule
22:50.37Sandwichman2448:(
22:50.45Amberrockjust like real life, where you cannot expel people either
22:50.56Amberrockunless you're some kind of dictator
22:51.19Sandwichman2448Hm...
22:51.29g0urranew rank on wowwiki: Dictator
22:51.32g0urraor Bitch King
22:51.38Amberrocklol
22:51.50kd3can we promote fandy to that?
22:51.52Sandwichman2448Need to ask Kirkburn to make that a user right.
22:51.56AmberrockTechnically, Wikia is our dictator
22:52.03Sandwichman2448About ads.
22:52.14kd3and bugs that are pissing me off
22:52.17g0urrakd3: sure, ask Mikkburn
22:52.22kd3see: any npc articles I've created since the 28th
22:52.48g0urraI know, the "image thumbnails are fucked up"
22:52.51Amberrockthere seems to be a bug concerning updated images as well
22:52.56Amberrockyeah, that
22:53.13kd3blame this change: http://trac.wikia-code.com/changeset/14341
22:53.23Sandwichman2448Should we have a 'anti-general disruption' or 'anti-annoying' rule?
22:53.44Amberrockneither
22:53.59Amberrockwe can't punish people for being "odd"
22:54.45Amberrockoh, and it's very subjective who is annoying and who isn't
22:55.37Sandwichman2448Damn you subjectivity!
22:56.52Amberrocklol g0urra
22:57.01Amberrock"oh no you didn't"
22:57.15g0urraI know, I'm funny
22:59.28Sandwichman2448Well, Fandyllic has been working towards what I see as adding three big rules to enforced policy (this is not a joke): You can only ban someone if you can cite a very specific policy that they are breaking, you can only delete a page with a vote, and all pages and edits are allowed (unless it is really, really spam).
22:59.42Sandwichman2448How can you keep the peace with that?
23:00.18Sandwichman2448Yes, g0urra can be funny.
23:00.55Amberrockthe first one is good
23:01.04Amberrocksecond one, not so good
23:01.11Amberrockthird one will thrash the wiki with nonsense
23:01.44Amberrockany edit is fine, but for the love of god: within the user's namespace please
23:04.57Sandwichman2448It is inclusionist.
23:05.22Sandwichman2448Well, the policy as it is is very vague, so the first one is hard.
23:06.24Sandwichman2448Unrelated: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MMORatings&rcid=2096234 Spam?
23:07.29g0urrayes, baleet
23:08.35Sandwichman2448Baleeted.
23:09.36FiskerI've lended you all the surgical devices i can Sandwichman2448
23:10.04Sandwichman2448I do not get it.
23:10.48Sandwichman2448I might... Not sure how it is helpful.
23:10.56Fiskeryou sometime remove cancer using surgical instruments
23:11.00Fiskersometimes*
23:12.16Sandwichman2448Then some of the non-cancer thinks that the cancer was treated badly and gets mad.
23:12.41Sandwichman2448Maybe it was not cancer at all.
23:13.06Sandwichman2448Having a lack of doubts does not protect from the doubts of others.
23:14.07Sandwichman2448hopes that made sense.
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23:15.59Sandwichman2448So, any thoughts on making policy better?
23:16.32Sandwichman2448Or random wiki stuff http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Cantyouidiotstellleftfromright
23:18.09Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Taurenchick484
23:21.24g0urrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Lor%27themar_Theron&diff=2090813&oldid=1770779
23:21.25g0urrawut
23:21.32g0urra"Liadrin+Queen of the Blood elves=Disaster."
23:21.57Sandwichman2448You can say that about most of her edits.
23:22.09Sandwichman2448I hope it is a her.
23:22.32Sandwichman2448Taurenpretendingtobeachick
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23:33.19charitwog0urra my friend
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