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00:26.35 | straterra | I've never played on a PvE server before..I'm Alliance and want to go to the Badlands (Horde territory). If I go there and don't attack anyone, can I be attacked/killed? |
00:31.13 | pcj | straterra: hostile territory flags you for pvp |
00:31.21 | straterra | oh :/ |
00:31.27 | straterra | So..just going in to the badlands flags me? |
00:31.28 | pcj | if it's contested it's ok |
00:31.35 | pcj | badlands is contested |
00:31.42 | straterra | Ooh..I thought it was horde |
00:31.56 | pcj | it only has a horde settlement |
00:31.58 | pcj | but it is contested |
00:32.55 | straterra | Gotcha..thanks! |
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01:13.34 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=50303 |
01:35.09 | Keolah | on a pve server, you only get flagged if you actually go into the opposing side's main cities. |
01:35.23 | Keolah | Or attack flagged mobs/players, obviously. |
01:35.49 | Keolah | You can cheerfully run around Durotar as an alliance player if you like as long as you don't get too near Org; p |
01:38.18 | pcj | not according to http://www.wowwiki.com/PvP_Flag keolah |
01:38.45 | Keolah | pcj |
01:38.49 | Keolah | I PLAY on a pve server. |
01:38.59 | Keolah | And I _ran around_ Durotar as a dwarf paladin and never got flagged! :P |
01:39.42 | Keolah | I put bunny ears on an orc female while standing on top of the inn in Razor Hill and didn't get flagged! :P |
01:42.36 | Keolah | So simply put... that page is wrong :P |
01:42.56 | Keolah | Or it's talking about pvp servers. |
01:43.36 | pcj | Normal realm |
01:44.34 | Keolah | But I have _never_ gotten flagged from going around the newbie zones... only for actually going into the opposing faction's cities. |
01:44.41 | pcj | hmm ok |
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02:37.25 | kd3 | holy hell at the constant new user creations |
02:37.32 | kd3 | wonders if it's that insane on some of the other wikia |
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02:44.59 | Keolah | Does mixology help with potion injectors? |
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05:10.11 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=50303 |
05:10.18 | TecnoBrat | go forth, and unleash on your trade channel |
05:10.21 | TecnoBrat | :P |
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06:30.53 | Fisker- | gOurra |
06:30.53 | Fisker- | rage |
06:31.02 | gOurra | User creation log? |
06:31.33 | Fisker- | no |
06:31.36 | Fisker- | rage |
06:33.21 | gOurra | runic power |
06:34.11 | Fisker- | no |
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13:51.55 | Kirkburn | pcj, happy birthday :) |
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14:04.04 | g0urra | ;O |
14:04.06 | g0urra | er |
14:04.07 | g0urra | :o* |
14:04.11 | g0urra | happy birthday pcj |
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14:10.02 | Kirkburn | Btw, for the screenshots contest, don't worry about deleting non-qualifying images - cause we might want to re-use them on wowwiki |
14:10.16 | Kirkburn | (Obviously keep them out of the qualifying categories though) |
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14:25.43 | topmen | hi all |
14:26.19 | g0urra | hello topmen |
14:26.46 | topmen | just a quick question ,have a lvl 60 paladin , what class should i roll next ? |
14:26.52 | topmen | thinking bout a caster |
14:27.11 | g0urra | elemental shaman |
14:28.22 | topmen | had one of those , didnt like it too much |
14:28.22 | topmen | cant decide between lock / mage / priest |
14:28.37 | g0urra | priest |
14:30.13 | topmen | reason ? |
14:30.26 | g0urra | because it's better |
14:32.15 | Kirkburn | So, i just checked out the image links - they work for external links, and they work for interwiki |
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14:36.19 | topmen | btw nice job on the site quys :) |
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14:43.02 | Fisker- | your mom is a screenshot contest |
14:45.09 | Kirkburn | topmen, thanks :) |
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15:03.02 | Kirkburn | says happy birthday to pcj_2, too |
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15:25.19 | topmen | i decided to roll a mage alt |
15:25.39 | Kirkburn | You poor man ;) |
15:26.22 | topmen | y ? :D |
15:32.03 | sacarasc | Kirkburn needs to have a pet or thick armour or he dies too much. |
15:33.02 | Kirkburn | Pet. |
15:33.26 | sacarasc | Hunter, wasn't it? |
15:39.42 | Kirkburn | Aye |
15:39.51 | Kirkburn | originally warlock, but I played it like a hunter :P |
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19:43.26 | kd3 | mxs, ping. 0.1.2 ptr's up |
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20:28.02 | mxs | plonk, looking |
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20:39.26 | kd3 | afaik it's not on the mirrors. I've been hitting them at random and coming up with nothing |
20:39.42 | mxs | same |
20:39.57 | mxs | but starting the old ptr does not give me a patch either |
20:39.57 | kd3 | watches azureus chug along at 50K/s |
20:39.59 | mxs | reinstalling ptr atm |
20:40.05 | kd3 | use your b.net login |
20:40.32 | mxs | wow, that sucks |
20:40.43 | kd3 | it's all kinds of broken |
20:40.49 | mxs | and you know what sucks even more ? |
20:40.58 | kd3 | want me to mail you the torrent? |
20:41.00 | mxs | a 991mb patch for something that is about what, 20 mbyte worth of changes ? |
20:41.03 | mxs | no, I got it |
20:41.04 | kd3 | yup |
20:41.07 | mxs | but I don't hgave the EU one |
20:41.16 | kd3 | can't help there, I'm a USAian |
20:41.18 | kd3 | >.> |
20:41.53 | kd3 | and yah. I've been bitching at dresorull about that on the forums |
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20:44.38 | mxs | it's not like they're wasting our bandwidth. |
20:44.39 | mxs | Oh wait. |
20:44.41 | mxs | They are. |
20:44.44 | kd3 | >.> |
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20:45.53 | Sandwichman2448 | I would like to talk about Rolandius. |
20:46.14 | Sandwichman2448 | It is getting back to the stage where people are really getting fed up with him. |
20:46.25 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Rolandius#Spelling.2Fgrammar |
20:46.33 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Rolandius#Violation |
20:46.55 | Sandwichman2448 | I propose that in the stead of a ban, which went so awry last time, we use bureaucracy to our advantage and enact the safeguards in his mentoring agreement. |
20:47.05 | Sandwichman2448 | I am speaking of the Review. |
20:47.18 | Sandwichman2448 | If a suitable case can be made with enough support, citation, and "rule-following" happens, it could be a way out. |
20:47.50 | kd3 | poke fandy's talk page? rolandius is apparently his responsibility right now |
20:48.03 | Sandwichman2448 | Would he listen? |
20:48.34 | kd3 | if you've got a good case |
20:49.51 | mxs | same fandy who bans other admins ? |
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20:50.00 | mxs | over the same issue ? :) |
20:50.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Just demotes i think. |
20:50.09 | kd3 | which is why I'm not dealing with it |
20:50.25 | Alttis | hi, everybody! |
20:50.31 | Fisker- | yeah mxs |
20:50.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello. |
20:50.35 | Fisker- | use the battle.net login! |
20:51.02 | mxs | Fisker-: did so, did not help me on the EU one :) |
20:51.07 | mxs | so if you have the EU downloader, give it here |
20:51.15 | Sandwichman2448 | So how would I start the poke? |
20:51.50 | Sandwichman2448 | "I think we should review Rolandius and the mentoring rules." |
20:52.17 | foxlit | ", because ..." |
20:52.36 | Sandwichman2448 | I do not want to come off as rude or forceful in this powder keg, but I want to shake the 'timid' label. |
20:52.54 | Sandwichman2448 | Because... Then I make my case? |
20:52.57 | Fisker- | i don't mxs |
20:53.03 | Sandwichman2448 | K... |
20:54.33 | Sandwichman2448 | Now I have been working on a review, but I had not thought of a way to say why one is needed... It just is as far as i can see. |
20:57.02 | Sandwichman2448 | "...some users feel [such and such]" sounds like weasel words. |
20:57.28 | Sandwichman2448 | I could cite that... |
20:57.32 | Sandwichman2448 | A vote? |
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21:00.34 | Sandwichman2448 | I could say how I feel, but where is the support in that? "Fandyllic, [such and such] is wrong. Thank you for your time." |
21:00.46 | Sandwichman2448 | Rude. |
21:04.35 | mxs | So nobody from the EU here with a PTR installer ? :) |
21:06.08 | Sandwichman2448 | I'll try to talk to him. |
21:11.30 | Alttis | Where is good to lvl 30 - 40 (tauren shaman) |
21:11.38 | kd3 | dustwallow marsh? |
21:11.44 | Alttis | kk, thanks :D |
21:12.43 | Alttis | hmm, Ench is for levelling and elemental is for pvp? right? |
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21:27.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Done. |
21:29.38 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic#Formal_review_of_Rolandius |
21:30.40 | kd3 | works for me. you didn't come off aggressive to my eyes |
21:31.09 | Sandwichman2448 | We wil see. |
21:31.19 | Sandwichman2448 | *will |
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21:40.32 | Keolah | dustwallow's best to start at 35-ish, really. |
21:41.55 | Keolah | at 30... arathi, stranglethorn, desolace |
21:42.30 | Keolah | some of the later Hillsbrad stuff. |
21:48.18 | g0urra | or use TourGuide. |
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21:50.29 | Fisker- | still no luck mxs ? |
21:54.42 | mxs | Fisker-: oh, I had luck a while ago |
21:54.47 | mxs | but the torrent is not well-seeded ;) |
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22:04.38 | Sandwichman2448 | It is going well so far. |
22:05.30 | mxs | Fisker-: the torrents are up on the ptr mirror page |
22:05.41 | mxs | will still be a while before I have em on wb/rs |
22:07.44 | kd3 | sigh |
22:07.49 | kd3 | if only my connection wasn't so shitty |
22:08.00 | kd3 | has been downloading at 150KB/s for a while and still has 2 hours to go |
22:08.09 | mxs | kd3: the us mirror is up, if you get faster speeds from there :PÖ |
22:08.15 | kd3 | I'm at my cap |
22:08.18 | mxs | ah ok :> |
22:08.28 | kd3 | I'd go faster but I'd have to get out and push |
22:08.33 | kd3 | curses dsl out in the boonies |
22:08.38 | Fisker- | eu link doesn't work |
22:08.39 | Fisker- | :E |
22:09.07 | pcj | at least you have dsl kd3 |
22:09.10 | pcj | i use satellite |
22:09.22 | kd3 | shudder |
22:09.37 | pcj | megabit downstream tho |
22:14.06 | winkiller | mhm, I could take this VDSL package when moving :P |
22:24.34 | foxlit | applies hate to wikia notices |
22:24.39 | pcj | yay! |
22:24.55 | kd3 | tabs open a few random pages |
22:25.12 | kd3 | oh, gah |
22:25.47 | Sandwichman2448 | The "welcomes"? |
22:26.04 | kd3 | no. check your talk page |
22:26.08 | kd3 | it may only be a sysop thing |
22:31.06 | mxs | Fisker-: they are now. And that is the 3.0.1 installer anyway, you should still have that :P |
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22:46.36 | pcj | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518405,00.html |
22:46.41 | pcj | the tubes are becoming clogged |
22:47.23 | pcj | wrong link |
22:47.24 | pcj | i meant http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece |
22:51.14 | g0urra | ooooold |
22:52.38 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97SUFS82&show_article=1 |
22:52.39 | pcj | ? |
23:00.02 | mxs | morons. |
23:00.26 | mxs | the 'net will be exactly as fast as I'm willing to pay. |
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23:01.01 | winkiller | I thought you meant the muggers now |
23:01.04 | mxs | I think they are setting up non-neutral traffic-delivery with moronic statements like that |
23:01.31 | kd3 | ugh |
23:01.44 | mxs | (and if they were REALLY, TRULY concerned about traffic ... they'd use something that the 'net has had for 20 years or so. |
23:01.48 | mxs | Yepp, that's right, multicasting. |
23:01.51 | mxs | or, you know, caches. |
23:02.07 | winkiller | eheh, multicast |
23:02.10 | winkiller | nowai! |
23:02.38 | mxs | multipass ! |
23:02.44 | mxs | Leeloo Dalass multipass |
23:02.48 | mxs | muuuuultiiiiipaaaasss |
23:03.00 | mxs | err where was I |
23:03.11 | winkiller | :) |
23:04.16 | g0urra | !jobqueue |
23:04.18 | Dotted | The job queue length is currently 105 |
23:04.19 | winkiller | ahaha |
23:04.22 | winkiller | TV1.rtp.pt |
23:04.22 | winkiller | A huge colorful and qute chaotic CSS sprite on a site of a Polish TV-channel (thank you, António Manuel Cardoso!). |
23:04.26 | winkiller | where's the error? |
23:04.31 | kd3 | that's... it? |
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23:06.45 | Fisker- | i lol'd btw |
23:07.05 | Fisker- | one of my guildies took a gold bag on the children's week quest |
23:07.18 | mxs | uh |
23:07.23 | mxs | cweek did not start yet did it ? |
23:07.36 | Fisker- | yep |
23:07.40 | Fisker- | 1 hour ago |
23:07.50 | mxs | not in the US, did it ? |
23:07.56 | Cooobra | not in the US |
23:08.14 | Fisker- | of course not |
23:08.18 | Fisker- | it's not 00:01 in the US is it? |
23:08.27 | Cooobra | nope |
23:08.30 | mxs | starts at 00:01 ? |
23:08.36 | Cooobra | yup |
23:08.40 | mxs | ok :) |
23:08.50 | mxs | another couple of achievements to get then |
23:08.58 | Cooobra | no spoilers now fisker =P |
23:09.10 | mxs | and at least some variation to the bloody argent tournament daileis |
23:09.16 | Fisker- | nothing new |
23:09.26 | mxs | (really Blizzard ? ANOTHER set of dailies that make you fly around northrend for no apparent reason ?) |
23:09.34 | Cooobra | got tired of doing those... 5 badges a day... /sigh |
23:09.40 | Fisker- | i like them |
23:09.45 | mxs | and you only need ... 975 ? :P |
23:09.50 | Cooobra | lol |
23:09.59 | Fisker- | I don't want to lose the valiant dailies though |
23:10.30 | mxs | I could maybe like them if there was no collection quest like that. You already fly half across the world for the fishing daily, the explorer's league, the frostborn (and possibly the ones in the basin, kalu'ak, etc.) |
23:10.58 | kd3 | meh. I stopped bothering with explorers'/frostborn pretty quickly. what's the point? |
23:10.59 | mxs | any daily that requires you to spend 3-10 times the time flying than it does completing is just doubleplusunfun, especially if it's daily |
23:11.09 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic#Formal_review_of_Rolandius |
23:11.21 | mxs | kd3: hi kd3. Meet OCD. OCD, kd3. |
23:11.52 | kd3 | meh. I have CDO. it's like OCD but the letters are in the right order |
23:11.58 | Cooobra | Since fighting a faction gives you that 1hr debuff, making it only possible to fight 10 every hour... it should have been earn a champion badge by defeating a champion... 10 an hr sounds fair |
23:11.59 | Fisker- | why so care Sandwichman2448 ? |
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23:12.17 | kd3 | except for the part that you can IB and clear the debuff |
23:12.18 | kd3 | or die |
23:12.22 | kd3 | >.> |
23:12.42 | Cooobra | oh... well i never die, so i didn't kno that lol |
23:12.53 | mxs | how can you die on those ? |
23:13.02 | mxs | I rarely finish a fight with more than 5k lost |
23:13.02 | kd3 | you can't. I'm saying 'kill yourself' |
23:13.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Why so Fisker-? |
23:13.22 | Fisker- | here's an idea |
23:13.25 | Fisker- | You got a cancer |
23:13.27 | Fisker- | Remove it |
23:13.28 | mxs | hell, it's usually faster to accept the next fight before the combat flag drops |
23:13.29 | Fisker- | problem solved |
23:13.33 | mxs | so I don'T get to heal :> |
23:14.25 | Cooobra | we've been trying to remove the cancer for a while now... but its grown too deep into the brain |
23:14.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, more than just me cares, but I am just the one who felt like doing it. At no insult to anyone. |
23:15.20 | Cooobra | I'm probably a bad choice to start it... I'm too involved, much like baggins |
23:16.10 | g0urra | it's funny that while fandy is his mentor, he doesn't seem interested in starting anything |
23:16.10 | Sandwichman2448 | I do not know if I need a "sponsor", or if Fandyllic approved it already. |
23:16.51 | Cooobra | I don't think fandy wanted that job... |
23:16.58 | Cooobra | it was pushed on him |
23:17.01 | Sandwichman2448 | shrugs. |
23:17.03 | g0urra | tough shit |
23:17.53 | Chiafriend12 | Tough shit must hurt to come out. |
23:17.59 | Chiafriend12 | (sorry, I couldn't resist XD) |
23:18.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, should I do it or an admin do it? |
23:18.14 | Cooobra | under the rules, it does say, unless someone else wants the job..... I wouldn't take it, but maybe you would gourra, I'm sure you'll put tough leash on him lo |
23:18.15 | mxs | Chiafriend12: that's why you train for it. |
23:18.19 | mxs | err I mean ... uh .. |
23:18.37 | Sandwichman2448 | Not a mentor, the review. |
23:18.54 | Sandwichman2448 | Unless the review leads to me being a mentor. |
23:19.03 | Sandwichman2448 | I tried that. It did not work. |
23:19.04 | g0urra | I just want him banned, and so does a few other admins here, and other people too |
23:19.39 | Cooobra | it would make things a lot simplier.... I haven't been able to create my stuff, cause i'm too busy watching him |
23:19.40 | pcj | who, fandyllic? |
23:19.43 | pcj | yeah let's ban him |
23:19.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Then that is what they should say on the review. |
23:20.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Who is going to start it? Me? Fandyllic? |
23:21.53 | Sandwichman2448 | This "sponsor" thing was vague. I said yes to it, then I thought 'Wait... What?'. |
23:22.27 | Cooobra | wouldn't really know how to start it.... this is an usual case |
23:23.37 | Sandwichman2448 | The 'how' I have been working on. The 'who' may be a problem. |
23:25.13 | Cooobra | well... I say just start it, then make a line that reads ''This formal review is recognized by Coobra'' and then I'll sign it later |
23:27.00 | Sandwichman2448 | You want that on your head? |
23:27.24 | Sandwichman2448 | K. |
23:28.11 | Cooobra | frankly I tried to work with Rol.... but its like working with an 8 year old.... the constant bickering, the "Forgetfulness" etc etc... too much a pain to deal with anymore |
23:28.42 | Sandwichman2448 | My guess was 10. |
23:28.46 | Cooobra | lol |
23:30.16 | Cooobra | Plus... i'm tired of him walking behind me on most of my edits with grammar/spelling fixes in the comment box... and all he does is like add a space or remove "The" |
23:32.26 | Cooobra | He's also very paranoid... constantly thinking everyone is out to get him... I don't know why he feel that way |
23:33.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Isn't that what we are doing now? It is not personal, but still. |
23:33.41 | Cooobra | yea... but he doesn't know that... =) |
23:34.39 | Cooobra | All I know is... hes basically pissed off 2 admins to the point where they don't come back anymore |
23:34.51 | Ose | sky and? |
23:34.59 | Cooobra | baggins |
23:35.02 | Ose | aha |
23:35.13 | Ose | :/ |
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23:36.47 | Ose | these PvP orphan objectives will take me a while :( |
23:37.03 | Ose | so many people wanting to do the same thing |
23:37.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Uh oh. Saved too soon. |
23:37.29 | Cooobra | exposing children to violate pvp... thats just wrong |
23:38.54 | Keolah | I'm sad that I'll never be able to get a lot of the holiday achievements. |
23:39.12 | Keolah | I liked Noblegarden.. I could actually _do_ all of that. ;p |
23:39.34 | Ose | hehe |
23:39.51 | Ose | i'm well on my way to getting my mount |
23:40.20 | Keolah | I don't do battlegrounds, and I don't do groups of over 2 people ;p |
23:40.37 | Ose | hallows end, winter veil, lunar festival, love is in the air and noblegarden done, need two more achievements for childrens week |
23:41.33 | Keolah | (Okay, I could handle the going into a battleground and making food one, but actually _doing_ anything in there? Hell no.) |
23:42.04 | Ose | hehe |
23:42.48 | Keolah | The only times I've actually done a full group was for, for instance, Zuluhed the Whacked so that I could do the Netherwing dailies... and it took two separate groups to manage the damned thing, and both of them were mostly morons. |
23:43.07 | Ose | most people are mostly morons |
23:43.16 | Keolah | One came in flagged (it was during last year's midsummer fire festival, he'd been dousing fires) and a flagged group of hordies decided to attack. |
23:43.35 | Keolah | Who had been SITTING IN FRONT OF US, and he was too dumb to notice and wait a moment to land :P |
23:43.55 | Ose | -.- |
23:46.29 | mxs | Cooobra: they removed my favourite achievement of all time, too |
23:46.37 | mxs | "Once an Orphan ..." |
23:47.18 | Ose | yeah |
23:53.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Hey Cooobra, should I write each problem in its separate section? |
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23:54.55 | Chiafriend12 | *burp* |
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23:55.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Cooobra? |