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03:05.41BagginswwI need a second admin opinion anyone?
03:06.13CharitwoAdys Cairenn|afk Gryphen pcj Tekkub - Bagginsww needs a second admin opinion
03:11.43Bagginswwits a arguement over how to present the pages. The system we used when we started adding dramatis personae to pages was with tides of darkness
03:12.16BagginswwAuragon thinks we should do away with dramatis personal approach and just list all names mentioned in the book by their factions, even if it was a brief one sentence reference
03:13.59BagginswwIn other words right now he thinks he's just argueing with me, and that his idea is "better'. This has resulted in a few minor edit disputes
03:14.29Bagginswwbut its not worth banning over. But I can't explain myself because he's already assumed it was only my decision
03:15.54BagginswwI haven't mentioned the alternative that we could make the character lists even more restricted to only make references to characters that are directly involved in the story (and deny all off-hand references).
03:16.23Bagginswwexample, a reference to "Orgrim Doomhammer" in a book where he doesn't appear would not be allowed
03:17.09BagginswwI tried to explain to him it becomes confusing if people go into one of our novel pages, and sees a l ist listing everyone, giving an implication that the character had important scenes in the book
03:17.38Bagginswwwhereas a more professional style dramatis persona lets them know right off what characters are used, and which ones aren't.
03:18.24BagginswwSo ya it would be nice if we could other admin opinions in there
03:18.46CharitwoAdys Cairenn|afk Gryphen pcj Tekkub - Bagginsww spent a lot of time writing that and would like an opinion
03:18.58Bagginswwthanks charitwo lol
03:19.09Charitwoi just like pinging pcj
03:19.28Cairennunfortunately, I'm not really an admin on the site itself and completely not the person to answer, sorry
03:19.38Charitwothen why are you oppd
03:19.49Cairennbecause I'm an op in the channel
03:20.04Charitwokirkburn said IRC OP = wiki admin
03:20.06kd3cairenn was around before most of us got on irc
03:20.19Bagginswwahh well charitwo if no answers can you remind them later :)
03:20.27kd3and kept the chan in check before the wiki ops took over
03:20.43Charitwoisn't kd3 an admin
03:20.51BagginswwThere is no way i'm going to go the route of "your admin work it out yourself"... that never goes well.
03:20.51pcjdramatis what
03:20.59Bagginswwlist of characters
03:21.01kd3yes, but I stay deopped unless I want to be bugged
03:21.05Charitwoah, kd3 has that gay NoOp flag
03:21.14Charitwoyou know you can -O yourself
03:21.28Bagginswwor just not sign in LOL
03:21.39Charitwokd3: /msg chanserv flags #wowwiki kd3 -O
03:21.58Charitwoor -OV if you don't want voice either
03:22.10CairennCharitwo: out of curiosity, what matter whether we have an op flag in here or not? does it somehow offend you or something?
03:22.42BagginswwI refuse to block ban, etc. I might issue out a warning... But I won't go beyond that.... It causes too much drama, and no one can ever agree.
03:23.16Bagginswwright now I have other admins I won't name who thinks every post I make is an attack on him.
03:23.42Cairennwell, my suggestion to you would be to speak to Kirkburn if you have some sort of major problem with the fact that he trusts me enough to have me op'd in here so I can help out _in the channel_ if there is some sort of problem that needs to be dealt with _in the channel_ and there is no one else around
03:23.54BagginswwI can never find him LOL
03:24.08Cairennthat wasn't directed at you Bagginsww
03:24.52Bagginswwbut ya kd3 if you could look into it I'd really appreciate it.
03:25.00CharitwoI don't have a problem with you being op'd, I just think it's weird since Kirkburn said if someone is op'd in the channel, they're an admin. Also, you can keep your channel ops if you need them and not just stay op'd. Just type /cs op #wowwiki to get them back
03:25.00kd3scrolls up
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03:25.32Cairenntrust me, I know how to add/subtract my O ;)
03:30.11Bagginswwanycase his approach would be like taking a shakespeare play, and listing every single reference to names, spouted by every character and then listing them as if they were characters in the play
03:30.45Bagginswwor every place mentioned but not visited
03:31.03kd3a straight up dramatis personae suits me fine. not rolandius's approach of creating articles for [[Cheekbone]]s and the like. >.>
03:31.04Dottedkd3 meant:
03:31.45Bagginswwthey did that on star wars wiki didn't they?
03:32.17Bagginswwonly time I'd allow it is if we got the Medical Dictionary of Azeroth, and it had an extensive article on cheekbones :p
03:32.25Bagginswwbut we don't thank goodness
03:33.58Bagginswwbut ya the pages were getting rediculous if a cat had a name, it was on the Character list
03:34.14Bagginswwyou can see lon-ami arguing over that
03:34.26BagginswwI betcha she's yelling at me over at SoL right now because I removed it :p
03:34.41Bagginswwwell it was a horse not a cat
03:34.44Bagginswwand some wolves
03:34.47Bagginswwand an owl
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03:37.59kd3alright, commented with a handy arbitrary heading break
03:39.14Bagginswwthank you
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04:31.56AdysCharitwo: cairenn was +o since pretty much the first days of the chan
04:32.05Adysback then the only admins on here were kirk and mikk
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06:07.55kd3mxs, ping. ptr's available
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06:19.24pcj"Players will now be able to queue for battlegrounds from any location." what
06:25.11mxskd3: wherE/how ?
06:26.17mxsseeing it
06:26.25mxs733 mb
06:29.56mxsmirror(s) coming soon
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06:34.43jaxdahlme love you long time for mirrors
06:37.26A2`893 mb here
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06:37.59A2`for WoW-0.1.0-enGB-patch.exe
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06:42.12pcj"The Mercurial Stone is no longer required as a tool for alchemists. It is instead a green quality bind-on-equip trinket."
06:42.17pcjits already done
06:43.56jaxdahli couldn't DE it for some reason
06:44.20A2`and servers are up ?
06:44.56jaxdahllot of people are going to be finishing downloading the patch soon and patching
06:45.34mxsA2`: it is the enUS I have ;)
06:45.37A2`that's why i'm asking, only 1/4 dled here ^^
06:45.38mxsenGB I still need
06:56.18pcjwtf no paladin changes?
06:56.38pcjmages got shafted more
06:56.39pcjbut damn
06:56.54pcjwarriors too
06:56.59pcjits like an incomplete patch lol
06:59.00pcjwow is that what the paladin prot tree looks like bii
07:02.26pcjgg fisker-
07:02.42Fisker-i'm raging
07:03.45Fisker-why won't blizzard care about eu people?
07:04.42Fisker-AND WTF
07:04.53Fisker-what am i going to do with 9 talent points i can't use for shit now? :E
07:05.51Fisker-Eye of Eternity
07:05.52Fisker-Malygos will now properly delay before breathing after a Vortex on Heroic difficulty.
07:07.37pcjfisker the prot tree looks like shit
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07:09.52Fisker-well i guess divinity is alright
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07:16.57infoboti heard fisker- is a brand of cat food
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07:33.26A2`woot, enhancement new cc
07:33.54A2`5s cc when frost shocking at >15m…
07:34.01A2`love 3.1
07:35.10Fisker-mxs my arch nemesis
07:35.24Fisker-got 0.1.0 for EU yet?
07:38.36A2`(90% patching here)
07:43.36Fisker-i hate you
07:44.43A2`u'll hate me a bit more
07:44.44A2`servers up
07:44.50A2`Fordring PVP low
07:44.56A2`Naralex PVP low
07:45.00A2`Brill PVP Medium
07:45.03A2`Remulos PVP High
07:46.00Fisker-lol what?
07:46.31A2`but no char copied.. ok :(
07:46.45Fisker-blizzard doesn't care about eu peopel
07:46.52Fisker-but that's usual
07:46.57mxsFisker-: working on it
07:47.14mxsgot 720mb of eu
07:47.20mxsso "soon" (tm)
07:47.23Fisker-so you can dual spec @ 40 now?
07:48.01A2`oh, I can create a 55dk..
07:48.40Fisker-Exalted with Booty Bay
07:48.40Fisker-Exalted with Everlook
07:48.40Fisker-Exalted with Gadgetzan
07:48.40Fisker-Exalted with Ratchet
07:48.40Fisker-Exalted with Darkmoon Faire
07:48.42Fisker-Exalted with Ravenholdt
07:48.44Fisker-Exalted with Shen'dralar
07:48.48Fisker-[L]Insane in the Membrane
07:49.07A2`Exalted Darkmoon ? :S
07:49.16Fisker-mxs is gonna get that i guess
07:50.19mxsyepp, I have that :>
07:51.48A2`hum.. equipment manager works like macro creating panel
07:52.24A2`its a pity.. an poor icon on top right.. no bind possible..
07:53.13Fisker-checked keybindings?
07:53.21Fisker-if not an addon will quickly fix that
07:53.49Fisker-when you got the patch giev link mxs ;_;
07:53.51A2`yeah I checkd
07:53.59Fisker-EU download is horrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiibleeeeeeeeeee
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07:54.53Fisker-indeed foxlit
07:55.19mxs30 more megs to download
07:55.24A2`glyphs are on template panel (a 4th one), no more on spellbook
07:55.36foxlitFisker-, my annoyance.
07:55.42Fisker-old A2` :3
07:55.45mxsFisker-: you got rapidshare premium, or do you want to wait until I have the patch in the system ? :>
07:55.47Fisker-foxlit my archnemesis
07:55.57Fisker-gotta have to wait
07:56.13Fisker-rapidshare is only good for porn
07:56.39mxsI prefer Usenet for pr0j
07:56.42mxserr pr0n
07:57.37mxsbut yeah, the download IS horrible
07:57.45mxsI am uploading 5mbyte/s and only getting 200k/s in return
07:58.58A2`yeah someone was sending me at 200ko/s, thx .de pple :D
07:59.14A2`btw.. patch day no play
07:59.22Fisker-why don't you download from the webseed mxs? :3
07:59.32mxswhat webseed ?
07:59.44Fisker-the one it always have
07:59.49mxs(that was a rhetorical question meant to imply that there IS no webseed)
08:00.05Fisker-so the "HTTP Direct Download" is just a placeholder for nothing? :E
08:00.12A2`there must be now (2h later)
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08:00.26mxsyeah. As you may notice, it displays no speed and no URL.
08:01.18Fisker-how the heck did people get it in the first place then O_o
08:01.22Fisker-something's not right here
08:01.45mxsblizzard torrent seeds
08:01.48mxsnot webseeds
08:01.57mxsproblem with torrentseeds is that they don't want ot send oyu the entire file
08:02.01mxsthey choke you fast
08:02.48A2`I can dual spec. with dk55 for 1k po
08:03.01A2`but.. I have 20pa :D
08:03.37A2`it costs 1000 po
08:03.37Fisker-sense please
08:03.42Fisker-WHATS PO :E
08:03.55A2`oups gold
08:04.03A2`french ones ^^
08:04.07A2`pièces d'or
08:04.35Fisker-so it did get expensive after all
08:05.14Fisker-i've just thought of something horrible
08:05.22Fisker-if the servers have "real names" now
08:05.51Fisker-what if they screwed up their character copy so all us who copied to "<language> EU PTR"-realms won't get transferred because it's another realm? :O
08:05.58A2`he have to remake copy ?
08:06.24Fisker-but i can't since i copied all of mine already
08:06.25A2`yeah.. I was look at the copy page but it has not changed
08:06.36A2`oh :S
08:06.45Fisker-you got any copies left?
08:07.08A2`yeah 2 but still the langage choice and no server name
08:07.27A2`i dont even know which one is which langage
08:08.27A2`9 pple, lvl 1, horde side… xD
08:10.56Fisker-eyes mxs' download bar
08:11.30mxsit slowed down at the end
08:11.33mxsit's "in the system" now
08:11.39Fisker-that's what she said
08:11.54mxsyou can try your luck on
08:12.08mxsit's still checksumming, should be on the site and linked in a sec
08:12.18A2`at least I can see templates
08:12.39mxsafter RS is done from those, I'll see about getting it up on filefront
08:12.58Fisker-only 100kB/s here :(
08:13.06Fisker-ah well it beats torrent
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08:14.27mxsshould speed up in a sec
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08:20.49mxsgoing any faster now, Fisker- ?
08:24.29A2`a shaman is already lvling to 10 to see templates ^^
08:25.26Fisker-up to 200kB/s mxs
08:25.38Fisker-A2` you can just enable the talentui and you won't have to level to do that
08:26.02Fisker-besides talent calc is up on
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08:27.45pcjfail talent calc is fail
08:28.39A2`oh, I can enable ig talentui with a macro ?
08:29.10A2`i'll look at mmo-champion
08:29.16A2`its easier
08:29.17Fisker-what's fail about it pcj?
08:29.36pcjits blizzards fault
08:30.33pcjpaladin talents
08:30.41pcjfirst tier prot
08:31.01Fisker-there is no talent in first tier prot
08:31.11Fisker-Well there's divine strength
08:31.14Fisker-but divinity isn't there
08:31.33pcjdivinity is lame
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08:34.49pcjthey removed the benefit of sanc for other classes ...
08:37.19Fisker-great job @ shoving reck down our throats
08:38.03Eraclitooh i love the new mage changes
08:38.13Eraclitowe have the shortest patch notes
08:38.37pcjor warriors!
08:38.39Eraclitonot yet fix for the frost dps or the fire survivability
08:38.53Eraclitooh wait warriors are shorter :>
08:38.57A2`omg, a guys just got lvl80, he got 5 Realm Firts! achievement
08:39.19pcjhe JUST got 80
08:39.23A2`instant 80 :D
08:39.31A2`1st 80 logged in ^^
08:39.45Eraclitoding dong dang
08:40.54EraclitoVal'anyr, Gavel of Ancient Kings <- a mace? mages and warlocks are sad
08:41.58pcjthey had atiesh
08:42.22Eraclito:( but atiesh was hard and it's now not more obtainable
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08:42.44Eraclitowhile thunderfury or sulfuras are almost solable now
08:42.46Eraclito(QQ QQ QQ)
08:43.14foxlitIt's clearly a melee mace
08:43.18foxlitI don't see a problem :)
08:43.39Eraclitoo rly?
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08:44.10Eraclitoi remember a blue said they will add a caster legendary
08:44.21Eraclitobut they may have changed idea
08:44.55Eraclito*New Spell* Polymorph Rabbit - Transforms the enemy into a harmless rabbit <- revamp <3 i love news
08:45.11Eraclitomage class is always the most changed and updated (qq qq etc)
08:45.55foxlitI'm still waiting for "Amplify Magic: this spell now has a new icon"
08:46.42Eraclitooh so cool *_*
08:46.51Eraclitomaybe another new icon for mage armor
08:46.58Eraclitoor a new set of icons for it
08:47.53Fisker-nah foxlit
08:47.57Fisker-it's clearly a caster mace
08:48.06A2`so what do you think, mmo template are wrong or changelog is wrong ? or blizzard is wrong ?
08:48.16foxlitThat confirms it, it's a melee mace.
08:48.23Fisker-never foxlit
08:48.34Eraclitoeveryone loves Fisker-
08:48.43Fisker-Blizzard loves casters so of course that drop isn't based on luck
08:48.47Fisker-Ragnaros = Luck
08:48.50Fisker-TF = Luck
08:48.54Fisker-Atiesh = lol quest
08:48.59Fisker-Glaives = luck
08:49.03Fisker-Bow = luck
08:49.08Fisker-New caster mace = lol quest
08:49.10Eraclitoatiesh luck too, i downed two bosses in the old naxx and no splinters
08:49.25Eraclitoand if there were 40 ppl, good luck on rolling
08:49.43foxlitWho rolls on Atiesh?
08:49.49Fisker-Eraclito you didn't pug Naxx in classic
08:49.55pcj*New Talent* Black Arrow (Tier 9) - Fires a Black Arrow at the target, increasing all damage done by you to the target by 6% and dealing [ 10% of RAP + 785 ] Shadow damage over 15 sec. Costs 6% base mana. 5-35 yard range. Instant Cast. 30 sec cooldown.
08:49.59pcjthey finally gave it to them
08:50.13Fisker-undead hunters?
08:50.21Eraclito[09:49:42] <Fisker-> Eraclito you didn't pug Naxx in classic <- yep i know, but many guilds let players roll
08:50.52Fisker-i lol'd
08:51.07Fisker-officer decision here
08:51.22Fisker-People could say they wanted it
08:51.38Fisker-And we would check out from dkp, attendance and standing whether or not one should have it
08:52.03Fisker-Never got it completed though :(
08:53.30Fisker-i believe you'll have to do this:
08:53.40Fisker-/script LoadAddOn("Blizzard_TalentUI");
08:53.46Fisker-/script TalentFrame:Show();
08:54.06Fisker-unless my memory is weak and/or they changed something
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08:57.56pcjyour memory has grown weak with age old man
08:59.24Fisker-then tell me
08:59.35Eraclitocharizard fly there and helps
08:59.58Eraclitoeveryone's happy and the team rocket fly back in the sky
09:00.04A2`Fisker : does'nt work
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09:55.18Fisker-my download was corrupt mxs
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10:10.20A2` > does the name mean we should'nt say blizz there is ap twice ? xD
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13:00.28gOurraFisker- you suck
13:00.43Fisker-gOurra your mom
13:15.41gOurraBibi` why so fail
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14:14.39CharitwogOurra: pwnt
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14:51.51Fisker-WHY SO NO RET STUFF?
14:52.50KalrothRetardins can sod off and rot in hell
14:53.26syberghosty so not in hell yet?
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15:30.42mxsfilefront mirrors for ptr up as well
15:34.27Eraclitooh new mounts <3
15:34.39Eraclito# Mimiron's Head - Summons and dismisses a rideable mechanical gnome head. This is a very fast construction. This construction can only be summoned in Outland or Northrend.
15:34.53Eraclitoi love to mount on gnome heads
15:37.02Eraclito[[hi]] [[gOurra]] [[how]] [[are]] [[you]] ?
15:37.03DottedEraclito meant:,,,,
15:37.20Eraclitohugs Dotted bot
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15:45.03Sirus011Is User:Gourra around?
15:45.20mxsgOurra, you mean ?
15:51.03pcjAquatic Riding Ray - Summons and dismisses an Aquatic Riding Ray. This is an aquatic mount.
15:51.25pcjfisker- why so aquatic
15:53.38pcjooh paladin
15:53.53pcj"Unique (30)"
15:55.37Eraclitobut the Use: says 40 :>
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15:56.24AckisWorkheh yah so how can you complete it?
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16:16.17pcjoh no they're buffing noblegarden
16:17.22pcj"Lay an egg in Un'Goro Crater's Golakka Hot Springs as a rabbit during the Nobledarden celebration."
16:17.50pcj"Shake Your Bunny-Maker"
16:17.57pcj"Use Spring Flowers to place rabbit ears upon females of at least 18th level."
16:19.30pcjwell it will probably be released before easter then
16:20.36AckisWorkdid you see the Insane in the Membrane?
16:20.50Eraclitoaaargh The Insane
16:20.58AckisWorkis that all of them or just one of them?
16:21.20Fisker-in b4 censorship pcj
16:21.42Fisker-also i heard on the internets that you lose the insane if you don't maintain the rep
16:21.43AckisWorki wonder if they're making changed to dmf or ravenholdt reps
16:21.46pcj"Gotta Go!" does not need nerfed
16:22.46pcjadding upgraded versions of kirin tor rings without a good tanking ring is a slap in the face
16:23.28AckisWorkI really should get a guild that does OS 3D, naxx 25 and maly 25 all in one day
16:24.40EraclitoAckisWork, or a real life. i'd like a real life, sounds cool
16:24.49AckisWorkthat's my problem, I have a real life now
16:24.55Eraclitoyou know, see the sky every day...
16:25.04Eraclitooh :> and how do you feel?
16:25.13AckisWorkI really should get a guild that does OS 3D, naxx 25 and maly 25 all in one day
16:26.59AdysI afk'd a while
16:27.04Adysto find this on firefox
16:27.06AdysTopic: PTR 3.1.0 - Patch Notes  (Read 66664 times)
16:27.11Adysbig fail
16:27.35Eraclitodo anyone know how do i became "champion of" capitals?
16:27.52Adysby championing them
16:28.49Eraclitoso a tabard?
16:29.05Eraclitois slooow
16:31.53Eraclitoi just hope that noblegarden will not be part of the year achievement
16:32.34Eraclitoi mean... it's just one day, and people complained about the valentine one-week event
16:34.15AckisWorkoh but it will be keke and they might expand it a bit
16:37.09pcjSorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.
16:37.12pcjwtf bibi
16:37.36pcjhow am i going to refresh every 5 seconds with database connection issues
16:43.12EraclitoF5 F5 F5 F5
16:43.37pcjpfft reloadevery
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16:46.46Eraclitobut teh internet is like masturbation, manual is better
16:59.33mxsdo these people not know that history is viewable ?
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17:04.38Adysi dont get it
17:05.14Adysyeha huh
17:05.15Adysi did that
17:05.16pcjadys: he's hijacking rapidshare credits
17:05.28pb_ee1what the... instance maps?
17:06.03Adysyes pb_ee1
17:06.18Adys(c'est old, je t'en avais parlé pendant la beta.)
17:06.24pb_ee1cause you could get lost, pcj.
17:06.48pcjoui, adys, mais je m'en fous
17:06.54pb_ee1(wé mais ça fait plaisir d'en voir la couleur)
17:07.29pb_ee1Ca veut dire: instance positions as well?
17:07.35mxsAdys: I'm fond of my free RapidShare account, you see ... :P
17:07.35Adysben wai
17:07.36pcjhalp halp i can't see the other side of the instance
17:07.54Adyspb_ee1: j'en avais deja parle a sharas a l'epoque il pleurait presque ;p
17:08.05mxs(and I don't replace other RS either; whoever is correct and first wins :> :)
17:08.07pb_ee1o noes! where are you guys?! CHECK UR MAP U MOTHERFUCKER!
17:08.38pb_ee1it's gonna completely change the dbs
17:09.02Adysnot really
17:09.11Adysjust something else you can gather
17:09.23Adysbtw theres no map for oldworld instances, yet anyway
17:09.29Eraclitoinstance maps? really?
17:09.41Adysdont ppl check mmoc
17:09.52Eraclitooh it was loading from 3mins
17:09.56Eraclitojust yellow page
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17:10.05pb_ee1i don't, there's an idiot (a greek) on it
17:10.10EraclitoLa connessione è stata annullata <- oh damn
17:10.52pb_ee1MMO-Champ --> Connection Problems: Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.
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17:11.17mxsThis is why static html rocks :P
17:11.25Adys[18:56:28] <@Bibi`> site is slow
17:11.25Adys[18:56:31] <@Bibi`> adding 3 webservers
17:11.25Adys[18:56:42] <@Bibi`> ETA is 15 minutes
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17:11.33Adysmxs: yeah
17:11.38Adysgonna serve a forum in static html
17:11.49Adysget a bash script to update it given some GET data
17:12.04Eraclito <- are they removing grobbulus? =P
17:12.16Adysmaps arent done
17:12.25Adystheres many duplicates
17:12.31Adystook only the "best" version
17:12.38mxsI'd probably do some mod_rewrite magic. If the file exists, serve it. If not, send the request to be dynamically generated and save to file. Have a cronjob that deletes all files older than X minutes.
17:12.42Adysfor example theres 4 versions of the culling of strath one
17:12.53mxs(and for forums, just invalidate the cache by deleting the file on update
17:13.00Eraclitobut i really like the idea
17:13.03AdysCullingOfStratholme, CoTStratholme, CoTStratholme1, CoTStrath
17:13.21Adysmxs, there are some static-html forums
17:13.31Adysat least mailing list repos
17:13.51Adysbut doesnt matter
17:13.51KalrothAdys: Does this mean they'll open up for coordinates in instances? :p
17:13.56AdysSMF sucks Kalroth's cocks
17:14.17Adys[19:07:29] <pb_ee1> Ca veut dire: instance positions as well?
17:14.23mxsAdys: I know ;-) There are some that are just plain C too, incredibly fast
17:14.36Adyshow bout assembly
17:14.49KalrothAdys: I don't speak baguette!
17:14.55mxshell yeah, decoding GET requests in assembly, with error checking ! :>
17:15.00Adysi can see it from here
17:15.12mxsI have actually been contemplating starting a blog of sorts, so looking into the available software.
17:15.12pb_ee1Kalroth: Hum, baguette !!
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17:15.34mxsWordPress looks nice if it were not for the fact that it cannot be made to conform to the browser it is being viewed with
17:16.02Adysgrab a django blog platform
17:16.07Adysrewrite it a bit because they all suck
17:16.08TranceControlhey guys :) anyone know anything about if i need to take the complete sunken temple with all bosses, to get the achievement ?
17:16.13mxs(I'd like the blog to convert my LaTeX math formulas to SVG with SVG fonts for Opera, SVG as plot outlines for Firefox/Safari, and PNG for IE -- no dice)
17:16.30mxswell, the other thing is that I am lazy :P
17:16.54mxsI kinda like Django, though looking at it recently I am missing a feature I absolutely LOVED in an earlier version of the documentation
17:17.01mxsi.e. annotations next to the text
17:17.07mxsthey seem to no longer be there
17:17.19Adysprolly been moved in .96->1.0
17:17.23Adysi'd check django.contrib
17:17.33Adyssounds like something that could be there
17:17.34mxsit was the online documentation
17:17.37mxsgotta do some archive searching
17:17.41mxswas gonna steal that feature :>
17:17.58mxsyou'd basically be able to put user comments next to specific passages in text
17:18.06Adysthat wasnt in the doc
17:18.09Adysthat was in djangobook
17:18.20mxsah, gotta check that then :)
17:18.31Adysthis stuff?
17:21.17Adysanyway Im off to bed, nighgt
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17:34.55InsurkatAnd so it was that there were 72 idlers. And it was good.
17:35.08mxsAdys: yeah, that stuff, although I see no comments there :)
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18:22.07mxsshit, I think I know why he replaced links.
18:22.10mxsThat thing is a virus.
18:22.38pcjthe rs hijack mxs?
18:23.48mxshe had a filefront mirror up too
18:23.54mxsdownloaded that, it does not match the actual patcher
18:23.59mxschecking what the f it is now
18:24.19pcjok let me know if it is a virus
18:24.28mxsI removed the filefront link for now
18:24.35mxswill reinstate it if I am wrong, but I doubt I am
18:28.49mxsPlease ban that motherfucker. Pardon my French.
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18:29.30Eraclitomxs you are a linguist <3
18:30.28mxsgonna check the regular patcher on virustotal as well, just to be even more sure :>
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18:34.44mxs[[WoWWiki-Lasher]] uploaded trojaned files. They were on the patch mirror page as the megaupload, rapidshare, and filefront links for the enGB version of the 3.0.9 patch for ~5 days.
18:34.44Dottedmxs meant:
18:35.02mxsbah, [[User:WoWWiki-Lasher]]
18:35.02Dottedmxs meant:
18:35.45mxsThis is the file from FileFront he uploaded :; This is what it SHOULD look like (the actual updater) :
18:36.03pcjthey spelled analysis wrong
18:36.21mxsthey've been spelling it wrong for years
18:36.26mxsstill an incredibly useful service
18:37.43Eraclitohey a friend told me he's loremaster in the ptr but not in the live
18:38.00Eraclitomaybe in the 3.1 they count the instances quest for the eastern kingdoms / kalimdor achievements?
18:39.05mxsnerfi t even further ? :)
18:39.14mxsIt was possible to attain on the beta in the first version.
18:39.49mxsbut then again, apparently I am insane in the membrane.
18:41.43winkillermxs: bet it's harder NOW than back then
18:41.59winkillerjust take how many quests lead you to a phased-out Varimathras. 3? 5? 10?
18:42.52pcj0 for me
18:43.06winkillerbet you did em before
18:43.10winkilleryou mean quester, you!
18:43.26Eraclitoblizz needs to rework a lot of stuff
18:43.27pcj...or I'm Alliance :P
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18:55.20foxlityou can has no onyxia chain, pcj!
18:55.31pcjyeah, too bad i already did it
18:56.19Eraclitome too
18:56.26Eraclitobut i completed it in 3.0.2
18:56.31Eraclitoi was at the last step
18:58.07foxlitEverybody knows that it's achievements on your death knight alt that really count
18:59.45Eraclitodoesn't have a death knight alt
19:00.38Eraclitothe only achievements that really count are the ones gained the first day
19:00.59Eraclitoi'll respect for all life a loremaster tagged 13th november 2008
19:01.15Eraclito(not possible because northrend, uhm)
19:02.33mxsheh, the other partial loremasters were though :>
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19:24.07pcjhmm that seems to favor horde
19:24.13pcjis there not an equivalent alliance version
19:27.01mxsthe one right above
19:28.20pcjoh duh
19:28.27pcjit doesn't show up right above in the diff mxs
19:31.36Fisker-wanna make out pcj ?
19:31.48pcji already am
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19:43.21mxspcj: true, the diff is not always sorted correctly. But it does show up 5 lines above :P
19:43.40pcji can't be arsed to read the whole freaking page
19:43.44KirochiI need a lore freak here
19:43.57KirochiI mean, freaker than me
19:45.06Kirochiwhere is his death clearly mentioned?
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20:15.43TranceControlAnyone? is there an addon for tracking achievements? so you dont have to press Y every single time? or use Blizzards Achievement tracker :S
20:16.50sacarascProbably, try asking in #wowace.
20:17.04pcjyeah i saw one but when i tried it it was broken
20:26.47GnarfozUrbanAchiever does it
20:26.54Gnarfozwow's own achievement frame does it, too
20:27.17Gnarfozauto-starting... not sure for blizz's own, but Overachiever can *make* it autostart. ;P
20:34.31pcj"Death Knight trainers will act as runeforges on the Arena Tournament realm"
20:38.44Kirochi"Just put your hands together, like a shell. Don't move, DK trainer..."
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21:38.55Sirus011Are any Admin available to help resolve na issue and or answer a few questions?
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21:39.39foxlitdescribe the issue or state the questions
21:47.24pcjor don't and we'll try to guess
21:50.01ZyferusWhat? Timmy's fallen down the well again!? :P
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22:08.01mxsI can report that "Insane in the Membrane" works as intended. This concludes my PTR testing. :>
22:12.22Eraclitowtb screenshot!
22:15.51sacarascmxs: "Insane in the Membrane"?
22:17.44sacarascAs a Bloodsail Admiral, I should have one part of that...
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22:52.01Uthallanhey me and my brother are RAFing 2 characters together, he's doing a drood. What's a good class that goes with that?
22:53.04Uthallanso what goes good with a druid?
22:54.45Teomyrgiven that a druid can spec into any of the general roles (tank, damage dealer and healer), it can basically go with any class
22:58.38Uthallanyeah, I always watned a rogue... I think i'll do that
22:59.21equiraptorA rogue and a cat form druid will level quickly together. Finding groups may be harder, but you may find yourselves able to stealth-run instances.
22:59.52equiraptorOnce you can get dual-spec, the druid being kitty/healer dual spec would ease group findings (and stealth run boss fights).
23:00.05Uthallanwell i'm opening a new account, and I'm going to run us through instances mostly, so I guess it doesn't really matter
23:00.17equiraptorAh, true.
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23:00.29Uthallanmy main lock is still only 75, half quit a whiel ago
23:00.41Uthallanbut he shouild be able to solo all the things up to 60
23:00.59Uthallankara gear and NR greens&blues
23:06.23Sandwichman2449 <- This came up again. Any new thoughts?
23:10.35winkillerwelcome to bureaucracy hell
23:12.12pcjthank you
23:12.15pcjwhere's the coffee?
23:12.31sacarascGet your own damn coffee.
23:12.46Sandwichman2449I can make some, but I can not hand it through a screen.
23:20.57mxsEraclito, sacarasc :
23:21.02mxsthere's your screenshot :P
23:21.18Eraclitoi feel so noob ;_;
23:21.27Eraclitokneel and bow
23:21.28sacarascDo you need them all at the same time?
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23:31.06winkillermxs: how'd you do that? ravenholdt.. shendralar. and goblins/pirates (what order, those 2, and how?)
23:32.19sacarascwinkiller: Bloodsails first, then mobs that increase goblin rep without decreasing pirate rep.
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23:39.31anotherdudesup all?
23:40.10sacarascNo thank you, I'm not thirsty.
23:52.33mxssacarasc: yes
23:52.37mxswell, I would assume so
23:53.03sacarascThat sucks, I just got back to neutral with Gadgetzan :(
23:53.27mxswinkiller: shen'dralar : either class books (no longer possible, you can only turn in class books once now) or librams (dire maul librams, that is)
23:53.38mxsravenholdt = heavy junkboxes. lots of em.
23:53.52winkillermxs: may I get an estimate of your /played?
23:53.55mxspirates first, then diremaul north free knot a lot
23:54.04mxswinkiller: no you may not, I am not executing that command anymore :P
23:54.10winkilleryou don't seem to be the type with alts
23:54.18winkillerI never can tell /played without an addon
23:54.28winkillerit's spread over 10 toons > 60 :P
23:54.51winkillerbut that's really impressive
23:55.07winkillerI'd love that title. I don't have even one of those reps near revered :P

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