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| 01:52.03 | Ycarene | Where can I go to improve my gear? I'm saving up mats for the trollwoven stuff and my engineering headpiece. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Ycarene |
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| 01:57.14 | pcj | do you see the armory's gear upgrade feature |
| 01:57.16 | pcj | use it |
| 01:57.50 | pcj | ill look but i won't be much help since im not a rogue |
| 01:58.01 | pcj | mmo-champion has a good gear list |
| 01:58.24 | sacarasc | go pcj! |
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| 04:34.13 | karl1 | hey |
| 04:34.42 | sacarasc | hi |
| 04:35.07 | karl1 | ive lost my wow disk 1 and my dad uninstalled wow will i have to buy wow again from the shop or can i just download off site? |
| 04:36.12 | sacarasc | you can download it |
| 04:36.32 | karl1 | were do i download it sacarasc |
| 04:37.57 | sacarasc | if you just want the single disk, you're out of luck, but WoW full version can be found: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Playable_Client |
| 04:38.44 | karl1 | yer id profer all of them my disk are scratched due to little bro |
| 04:55.08 | karl1 | :S |
| 04:55.28 | karl1 | does anyone no if the new wow comes with 30 days membership like the over copys? |
| 04:56.02 | sacarasc | Wrath of the Lick King? nope, it doesn't |
| 04:56.26 | karl1 | well no point me getting it till im level 55 anyway :S |
| 04:57.18 | sacarasc | and you'll need The Burning Crusade too |
| 04:57.29 | karl1 | i have it :D |
| 04:57.34 | karl1 | im propered :P |
| 04:57.56 | sacarasc | hehe |
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| 04:59.22 | karl1 | i cant wait to see all my old friends :) |
| 05:00.02 | sacarasc | not played for a while? |
| 05:00.22 | karl1 | about a year i lost my job so wow was the first thing i had to let go off |
| 05:01.03 | sacarasc | :( |
| 05:02.04 | karl1 | i no it sucks but now im comeing back it will be like when i first started so ill be questing like mad |
| 05:02.40 | karl1 | i dont even no what level i am :P |
| 05:03.08 | sacarasc | hehe |
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| 05:24.53 | karl1 | does your wow account get frozen when you run out of credit? |
| 05:26.28 | sacarasc | yes, but you just need more credit and it will be as it was |
| 05:27.19 | karl1 | ooo good i was pooping myself then :P |
| 05:28.41 | karl1 | is there a way to look at what char are on your account through website? |
| 05:29.25 | sacarasc | i think you might be able to by going to the transfer char thing on the account page |
| 05:29.44 | sacarasc | not actually transfer them, but you should see what they're called and what realm they're on at least |
| 05:31.00 | karl1 | i forgot what realm im in :S |
| 05:38.07 | karl1 | you wont happen to no what server a new hope is on would you :P |
| 05:47.34 | karl1 | i just cant wait to see all my old friends :D |
| 05:47.35 | karl1 | :D |
| 05:47.36 | karl1 | :D |
| 05:47.53 | sacarasc | :) |
| 05:56.17 | karl1 | i forgot i had 2 level 70s :P |
| 05:56.32 | karl1 | so i get new wow class? |
| 05:56.37 | sacarasc | yup |
| 05:57.40 | karl1 | ok at 6:00 ill be at pc world |
| 05:57.43 | karl1 | :P |
| 05:59.42 | karl1 | anyway im going to bed i wont be able to sleep because im so excited :P |
| 05:59.53 | sacarasc | night karl1 |
| 05:59.55 | karl1 | arr |
| 05:59.56 | sacarasc | and good luck |
| 05:59.57 | karl1 | wait |
| 06:00.07 | karl1 | did the specs change for new wow? |
| 06:00.30 | sacarasc | think so |
| 06:05.01 | karl1 | amyway im, deffo going now |
| 06:05.02 | karl1 | pease |
| 06:05.22 | karl1 | and thanks for chatting to me sacarasc and shareing my excitement |
| 06:05.27 | karl1 | :D:D:D:D:DD:D::D |
| 06:05.35 | sacarasc | :) |
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| 07:03.06 | LucidFox | A'dal: 'Silvery moon, washed in blood, / Led astray into the night, armed with the sword of broken Light. / Broken, then betrayed by one, standing there bestride the sun. / At darkest hour, redemption comes, in knightly lady sworn to blood.' |
| 07:03.20 | sacarasc | old |
| 07:03.32 | LucidFox | Liadrin: [/rolleyes] You've just made that all up, haven't you? |
| 07:26.55 | BiggieSmalls | ..? |
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| 10:44.02 | LucidFox | "Some people are so paranoid. I mean, okay, Sargeras was constantly burning from within in an inferno powered by his own hate, but you'd think Velen could have given him the benefit of the doubt the way Archie and Killy did." |
| 10:44.17 | LucidFox | I *love* the "Know Your Lore" articles for passages like this. |
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| 11:01.41 | Bence | hi..anyone want to buy 14-day key? |
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| 16:38.28 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 16:38.38 | Kirkburn | Having a good holiday, all? |
| 16:40.22 | g0urra | no |
| 16:44.52 | foxlit | yes! |
| 16:44.57 | foxlit | But only for now. |
| 16:45.08 | foxlit | For now there's happiness -- but only for now! |
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| 16:56.39 | Fisker- | Kirkburn it's birthday |
| 16:56.40 | Fisker- | :E |
| 16:56.57 | Kirkburn | foxlit, glad to hear it...? |
| 16:57.01 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, yours? |
| 16:57.24 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 16:59.56 | foxlit | Is it the day you began your trolling career? |
| 17:00.36 | Fisker- | perhaps |
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| 17:01.35 | Fisker- | thanks pcj! |
| 17:06.53 | Kirkburn | Congrats Fisker-, though ouch at having a birthday so close to Xmas |
| 17:07.14 | g0urra | his parents planned carefully |
| 17:11.21 | Kirkburn | March ftw |
| 17:11.50 | foxlit | "Please give a warm hand to the star of Girls Gone Wild parts 2, 5 and 7, Lucy the Slut!" |
| 17:12.01 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 17:12.14 | foxlit | I wonder if that musical is performing anywhere close to here |
| 17:15.57 | AckisWork | Fisker-: are you serious? |
| 17:16.36 | Fisker- | Yeah g0urra |
| 17:16.46 | Fisker- | my brother has birthday the 23rd :D |
| 17:16.46 | AckisWork | Fisker-: my bday in on Thursday |
| 17:16.55 | Fisker- | Yeah but i hate you :( |
| 17:20.08 | AckisWork | :( |
| 17:25.04 | Kirkburn | Previous gf of mine had her birthday on the 14th February. Great when you're a child. Not so great when you're a teenager/adult. |
| 17:25.41 | AckisWork | Kirkburn: dude you save money on presents |
| 17:30.12 | syberghost | My sister's is on the 15th. |
| 17:30.32 | syberghost | She's always complained. But then, she's always complained about everything. |
| 17:31.10 | syberghost | She hasn't spoken to our mother since mom told her she couldn't bring her then-boyfriend in our house because he was a thief. |
| 17:31.29 | syberghost | Please note his subsquent conviction for multiple counts of theft. |
| 17:33.54 | Ose_ | heh |
| 17:38.12 | g0urra | why so Ose_ Ose |
| 17:38.43 | Ose_ | 1x stationary pc and 1x laptop? |
| 17:39.43 | g0urra | l20se |
| 18:12.03 | Charitwo | ~pcj |
| 18:12.38 | pcj | WHO DARES SUMMON ME |
| 18:13.45 | Ose_ | you forgot the "?" |
| 18:14.54 | g0urra | WHO DARES? SUMMON ME |
| 18:15.13 | Ose_ | no no no |
| 18:15.56 | Ose_ | "who" is the asking part of the sentence |
| 18:16.01 | Ose_ | WHO? DARES SUMMON ME |
| 18:17.29 | Charitwo | pcj what percentage of you guys' tooltips uses dpl? |
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| 18:18.39 | pcj | it doesn't use dps |
| 18:18.40 | pcj | dpl |
| 18:19.04 | Ose_ | pcj I has an easy js question |
| 18:19.37 | Ose_ | I want to disable the dismiss button (for the sitenotice) |
| 18:19.55 | Charitwo | pcj: <gahoo> well in theory all links to [[Moat Carp]] would be changed to {{Template:Tooltip|id = Info|text=[[Moat Carp]]|tooltip={{#dpl:title=Moat Carp|namespace=Main|include=Info|allowcachedresults=true|}}}} |
| 18:20.05 | pcj | OH GOD |
| 18:20.07 | pcj | THEY DIDN'T |
| 18:20.10 | Charitwo | OH GOD |
| 18:20.16 | pcj | ose: go ahead then |
| 18:20.33 | pcj | there are so many problems with that code |
| 18:20.43 | pcj | why do they use {{Template: |
| 18:20.51 | pcj | why do they use dpl |
| 18:21.06 | Ose_ | did I append a "?" to any of the sentences I said (before this)? |
| 18:21.07 | pcj | why is their text parameter wrapped in wiki code |
| 18:21.16 | Charitwo | i don't know, i havent been following along with this tooltip project of his |
| 18:21.30 | Charitwo | i just saw him talk about implementation and i'm like O_O |
| 18:21.39 | pcj | so |
| 18:21.46 | pcj | they move the processing from client side to server side |
| 18:21.49 | pcj | THAT MAKES SENSE |
| 18:22.11 | pcj | wonder how that will look on a page with 100 tooltips |
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| 18:24.44 | Charitwo | ~crucially |
| 18:24.44 | infobot | To me crucially is the devourer of websites |
| 18:24.45 | pcj | crucially its all your fault |
| 18:24.57 | crucially | what is now! |
| 18:25.20 | pcj | make wikia scrap its plans to ruin wowwiki |
| 18:25.40 | Charitwo | crucially: gahoo is planning on taking down the servers with his tooltips project |
| 18:26.54 | Charitwo | pcj: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Template:Tooltip-NPC&action=edit |
| 18:27.16 | pcj | mmmm tasty dpl |
| 18:28.06 | pcj | Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page: |
| 18:28.06 | pcj | # |
| 18:28.07 | pcj | # Template talk:1,000 Contributor |
| 18:28.08 | pcj | wtf |
| 18:28.22 | pcj | what |
| 18:28.30 | pcj | they are transcluding everything in the template talk namespace? |
| 18:28.32 | pcj | hahaha |
| 18:28.35 | Charitwo | i think pcj is broke now too |
| 18:28.47 | pcj | so |
| 18:29.00 | pcj | the best way to break that template would be to add dangerous code to the template talk namespace |
| 18:32.44 | syberghost | the best way to break ur mom would be to add dangerous code to the template talk namespace |
| 18:35.20 | g0urra | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Tooltip-NPC |
| 18:35.21 | g0urra | good job |
| 18:36.51 | pcj | so charitwo when is ffxiclopedia being moved to a subdomain of wikia.com |
| 18:37.08 | Charitwo | i think kirkburn said sometime this spring |
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| 18:37.21 | pcj | ... |
| 18:37.23 | Charitwo | g0urra: i was hoping for a more devasting reaction |
| 18:37.34 | Charitwo | apparently all custom domains are on a list |
| 18:37.54 | g0urra | so what's wowwiki going to be |
| 18:38.19 | Charitwo | no idea, you'd have to ask your commander in chief |
| 18:38.21 | pcj | fuck.wikia.com |
| 18:38.27 | pcj | i want to impeach our cnc |
| 18:38.38 | pcj | what is the process |
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| 18:39.43 | Charitwo | (ask Kirkburn, I have no idea!) |
| 18:39.47 | Charitwo | i just asked about ffxi :p |
| 18:40.18 | pcj | figures |
| 18:48.58 | Charitwo | pcj: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Tooltip-NPC?action=edit |
| 18:49.02 | Charitwo | he changed it :o |
| 18:49.30 | pcj | :o! |
| 18:49.37 | pcj | it will still suck |
| 18:49.44 | Charitwo | how so? |
| 18:50.01 | Kirkburn | Sorry, was out getting food |
| 18:50.03 | g0urra | because it's not by pcj |
| 18:50.06 | pcj | now its transcluding the entirety of the page |
| 18:50.30 | pcj | and doesn't have any default value |
| 18:51.02 | AckisWork | nerd lore talk: http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/12/29/ask-a-lore-nerd-all-about-dragons/ |
| 18:51.23 | pcj | i saw wowinsider and stopped reading |
| 18:51.25 | AckisWork | I don't quite agree with what he said about killing off an aspect |
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| 18:51.49 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 18:59.45 | Charitwo | pcj: moar http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Tooltip-NPC |
| 19:00.01 | pcj | thats so ugly |
| 19:01.30 | Ose_ | eww... |
| 19:01.35 | pcj | also it doesn't even involve ajax |
| 19:01.44 | pcj | it just loads all the tooltips at page load |
| 19:01.56 | pcj | so its still more data for the wiki to process |
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| 19:17.24 | foxlit | data is free |
| 19:17.30 | foxlit | you fetch it, you send it, you're done |
| 19:17.49 | foxlit | The alternative is that you use another HTTP request to fetch it, which is going to be orders of magnitude more expensive |
| 19:24.07 | pcj | except that on a page with 100 tooltips there will be 100 other pages transcluded |
| 19:24.14 | pcj | no matter what |
| 19:25.28 | foxlit | And it's not an issue. Amazing, eh? |
| 19:26.14 | pcj | they haven't tested it with that on a large scale |
| 19:27.03 | foxlit | There's nothing in how mediawiki works that'd make their implementation bad. |
| 19:27.12 | Charitwo | it is rather scary |
| 19:27.54 | foxlit | Since pages are compiled once per edit, and viewed more than edited, your display performance is significantly more important than compiling performance. |
| 19:28.36 | foxlit | You could argue that it'll choke the parser with too much data, but you'd have a very time hitting the NewPP limits, which I presume are established based on "safe" values. |
| 19:30.06 | pcj | when any of the 100 transcluded pages are changed then that page is out of date |
| 19:32.40 | foxlit | Not really much of a problem. |
| 19:33.00 | foxlit | views : edits ratio should take care of it with plenty of breathing space. |
| 19:33.34 | pcj | well you may downplay it but i have gotten complaints when the cache causes tooltips to show old data |
| 19:34.08 | foxlit | Which cache? |
| 19:34.17 | foxlit | In your case, it's probably squid. |
| 19:34.35 | pcj | i thought crucially moved us to varnish |
| 19:34.46 | foxlit | Same principle |
| 19:35.51 | pcj | Indeed, but showing old revisions is more of a problem than you say |
| 19:37.37 | foxlit | Probably because you framed that problem wrongly :) |
| 19:38.33 | pcj | If you're going to be belligerent, I won't be a part of it |
| 19:38.36 | foxlit | It's not "any of the 100 transcluded pages are changed that page is out of date" but "when this page is changed, all of the 100 pages that transclude it are affected" |
| 19:38.58 | foxlit | But anyway, if they ever hit _that_, it's an easy patch. |
| 19:40.21 | foxlit | Hash the only include sections and only invalidate transcluders if they actually change. That'd stop casual article editing from creating a long update queue. |
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| 19:45.32 | g0urra | 1/7/09 |
| 19:45.36 | g0urra | goodnight sweet prince |
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| 22:31.00 | g0urra | ~noob |
| 22:31.01 | infobot | I looked up noob on wikipedia. Who is this Fisker person, anyway? |
| 22:31.20 | sacarasc | hah |
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| 22:40.52 | Fisker- | ~factinfo noob |
| 22:40.52 | infobot | noob -- last modified 10m 21s ago by g0urra!n=g0urra@wowwiki/g0urra; it has been requested 7 times, last by g0urra, 9m 51s ago. |
| 22:41.00 | Fisker- | purl, forget noob |
| 22:41.06 | Fisker- | infobot, forget noob |
| 22:41.06 | infobot | Fisker-: i forgot noob |
| 22:41.40 | g0urra | Fisker-, FYI I correct it so it wasn't borked. it said "infobot is dead. <reply> I looked up noob on wikipedia. Who is this Fisker person, anyway?" |
| 22:41.45 | g0urra | corrected* |
| 22:41.57 | g0urra | but thanks |
| 22:44.54 | g0urra | I vote wowomg.wikia.com |
| 22:44.57 | g0urra | anyone oppose? |
| 22:46.26 | Ose | [[API]] |
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| 23:12.20 | Ose | http://www.runescape.headwiki.com/ hehe |
| 23:16.37 | Charitwo | Ose: 1 heart attack a day for pcj is quite enough don't you think |
| 23:16.54 | Ose | that's why you ping him? |
| 23:17.06 | Ose | http://apple.wikia.com/ <3 skin <3 |
| 23:17.08 | Charitwo | rubbish |
| 23:17.41 | Ose | who you? |
| 23:18.23 | g0urra | no u |
| 23:22.57 | Charitwo | ur mom |
| 23:28.32 | pcj | g0urra: ihate.wikia.com |
| 23:28.54 | g0urra | but it needs to have wow |
| 23:29.01 | pcj | wowihate.wikia.com |
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