| 00:04.54 | Fisker- | attacks pcj |
| 00:08.38 | Amarande | bah |
| 00:08.46 | Amarande | "you have no characters on Quel'dorei, please select a different realm" |
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| 00:50.58 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2449/Sandbox#Name_conjecture_template |
| 00:51.14 | Sandwichman2448 | I think we needed one. |
| 00:51.51 | Sandwichman2448 | Anyone have any thoughts? |
| 00:53.39 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Wailing Caverns right eye socket cave]] |
| 00:53.40 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Wailing_Caverns_right_eye_socket_cave |
| 00:54.28 | Sandwichman2448 | {{move}} is limited |
| 00:54.29 | Dotted | Sandwichman2448 meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:move |
| 01:04.28 | Sandwichman2448 | 'Conjecture' as a name would be confused with 'Speculation' I think. |
| 01:08.26 | Sandwichman2448 | Is 'Category:Unofficial names' or 'Conjectural names' better? |
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| 05:10.16 | Adys | woah |
| 05:10.25 | Adys | nvidia 180.x drivers are quite an upgrade |
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| 08:08.31 | Drakonia | Hi :) is ther som life her?:P |
| 08:08.47 | gOurra | yes |
| 08:09.27 | Drakonia | hehe first channel were ther is life in today :P |
| 08:11.58 | Drakonia | :P so whats happening her |
| 08:12.07 | Drakonia | somone waiting for wow to jump back to life?:P |
| 08:13.03 | g0urra | most idlers here |
| 08:13.16 | Drakonia | :P hehe i notice |
| 08:13.46 | Drakonia | Is ther som other wow relatet or grim batol Mirc arounds ?: ) havent founde them yet :P mostley becuse i just joined the mirc community again |
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| 08:16.07 | g0urra | Drakonia: you should check quakenet |
| 08:16.13 | g0urra | they have server specific channels |
| 08:16.59 | Drakonia | i am fresh to this how do you get to the Quakenet And how can you se the server specific channels? :P sorry for noob question :po |
| 08:17.03 | soufron | hello |
| 08:17.36 | g0urra | Drakonia: do you have an IRC client? |
| 08:18.14 | Drakonia | Not sure ^_^ i just DL the mirc and installed it |
| 08:18.41 | g0urra | ah, you have an IRC client then |
| 08:18.55 | g0urra | you should check your menu and look for a server setting or something |
| 08:19.06 | g0urra | I don't use mIRC so I don't know |
| 08:19.10 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:19.11 | Drakonia | hehe ok |
| 08:19.18 | Adys | type that |
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| 08:19.24 | g0urra | rofl |
| 08:19.34 | Adys | i dont like mirc users. |
| 08:22.21 | Kalroth | it's mIRC! |
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| 08:23.05 | Adys | Kalroth: |
| 08:23.20 | Adys | [10:12:03] <Drakonia> Is ther som other wow relatet or grim batol Mirc arounds ?: ) havent founde them yet :P mostley becuse i just joined the mirc community again |
| 08:23.24 | Adys | [10:17:13] <@g0urra> you should check your menu and look for a server setting or something |
| 08:23.27 | Adys | [10:17:27] <@Adys> /server irc.quakenet.org |
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| 08:24.41 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:24.55 | g0urra | <Adys> /server irc.quakenet.org |
| 08:24.55 | g0urra | <Drakonia> hehe ok |
| 08:24.55 | g0urra | <Adys> type that |
| 08:25.02 | g0urra | * Drakonia har avslutat () |
| 08:25.11 | g0urra | yes that last line is swedish |
| 08:25.18 | Adys | like your mom |
| 08:25.36 | g0urra | something you say for once is true |
| 08:26.22 | Adys | what i meant was |
| 08:26.27 | Adys | that last line is YOUR MOM |
| 08:26.38 | Adys | it's all logical |
| 08:26.42 | Adys | that last line is swedish |
| 08:26.45 | Adys | your mom is swedish |
| 08:26.47 | Adys | that last line is YOUR MOM |
| 08:27.24 | Adys | Kalroth: I upgradet drivrerz!! |
| 08:27.30 | Kalroth | omgz |
| 08:28.02 | Adys | Kalroth: was jumping around in #wowuidev about how much FASTER my.. |
| 08:28.04 | Adys | terminals are |
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| 15:03.01 | Ramzie | guys |
| 15:03.16 | Ose | guise? |
| 15:03.20 | Ramzie | Sand gnomes are gnomes who could avoid the curse of flesh |
| 15:03.23 | Ramzie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | 42 |
| 15:04.27 | Ramzie | k |
| 15:04.37 | Ose | [[Sand gnomes]] |
| 15:04.37 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Sand_gnomes |
| 15:04.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | 0.o |
| 15:05.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | there is no written article on sand gnomes? the greatest race in all of Azeroth? |
| 15:05.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | and apparently Outland too |
| 15:05.33 | Ramzie | dotted u nob :p |
| 15:05.34 | Ramzie | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sand_Gnome |
| 15:05.43 | Ramzie | gnomes <> gnome |
| 15:05.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.52 | Ose | uhm, I think i'm the gnome |
| 15:05.56 | Uhmnet | awoooooga! :p |
| 15:06.00 | Tuqui-tuqui | rofl |
| 15:06.00 | Ose | dotted is just running a script |
| 15:06.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait a sec... arent there sand gnomes in STV? |
| 15:07.23 | Ramzie | there are? |
| 15:07.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | theyre paired up with the |
| 15:07.46 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh, those are zombie gnomes |
| 15:07.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | nvm |
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| 15:11.04 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Silithus&diff=801895&oldid=607531 epic fail |
| 15:12.20 | Uhmnet | Heh.. |
| 15:13.25 | Ramzie | wat |
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| 16:26.39 | syberghost | Sunshine my shoulders makes me happy - discuss |
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| 17:23.50 | pcj | http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/dec/02/port-st-lucie-woman-says-ex-boyfriend-snatched-wig/ |
| 17:23.58 | pcj | "She said she and the alleged wig-snatcher lived together for eight months. She knew his first name, but apparently recalled only the first letter of his last name." |
| 17:24.35 | g0urra | "She knew his first name, but apparently recalled only the first letter of his last name." |
| 17:24.43 | g0urra | curse you pcj |
| 17:25.12 | pcj | http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2000335.ece |
| 17:31.19 | Amarande | snatching a WIG? |
| 17:31.30 | Amarande | not something more ... normal, like a bra or panties? :S |
| 17:36.14 | g0urra | goes flagging YouTube vids |
| 17:41.06 | pcj | http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/search/s_600974.html |
| 17:42.15 | crucially | flags g0urra |
| 17:42.24 | g0urra | shoots crucially |
| 17:42.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | anyone know what the boss in wintergrasp is called? The one that drops the pvp tokens? |
| 17:43.55 | Amarande | anyone know when they're going to fix the emberstorm transfer glitch? |
| 17:45.10 | syberghost | There's an Emberstorm transfer glitch? |
| 17:45.15 | crucially | casts Disallow User From Wikia on g0urra |
| 17:45.23 | g0urra | nope |
| 17:45.48 | Fisker- | g0urra my bbbf |
| 17:45.58 | g0urra | no |
| 17:46.00 | Ose | tuqui-tuqui: [[Archeron the Stone Watcher]]? |
| 17:46.00 | Ose | typo'ed? |
| 17:46.00 | Ose | acheron? |
| 17:46.00 | Ose | archavon? |
| 17:46.01 | Dotted | Ose meant: www.wowwiki.com/Archeron_the_Stone__Watcher |
| 17:46.06 | Ose | [18:45]< Ose>archavon? methinks is rite-est |
| 17:46.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes! |
| 17:46.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | danke |
| 17:46.21 | Fisker- | g0urra my bbff |
| 17:46.25 | g0urra | no |
| 17:46.35 | Fisker- | then what? :E |
| 17:58.49 | Amarande | syberghost: you can not currently transfer any character off any server in the Emberstorm battlegroup |
| 17:59.04 | Amarande | there is a glitch which causes the transfer page to say you have no characters on any such server, even if you do in-game |
| 17:59.17 | g0urra | wtf is wrong with this image http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Deathknight-bloodelf-f-80.gif |
| 17:59.29 | Amarande | you know what I think would be a potentially awesome way to fix that? |
| 17:59.38 | g0urra | the file history shows the correct image, but the current one doesn't |
| 17:59.55 | Amarande | WoW should make the paid character transfer function (and maybe paid name change and subscription stuff too?) accessible in-game |
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| 18:00.03 | Amarande | Guild Wars does that, and it works really well |
| 18:00.17 | syberghost | Wow should just have free portals to all other realms in the major cities. |
| 18:00.40 | syberghost | You want to be on Foo? Walk into Org and step into the portal, click "Foo" on the menu. |
| 18:00.44 | Amarande | (as well as utterly avoiding any issues that crop up time and again where people apply stuff to the wrong account, because at least the way GW does it, anything you buy is automatically applied to the currently active account) |
| 18:01.11 | Amarande | Of course, for all I know, that's patented to NCsoft, stupid software patents :| |
| 18:01.45 | Amarande | speaking of patents, I'm still wondering how the hell so many folks think they -encourage- innovation :S |
| 18:02.30 | g0urra | FFFFFFFFF |
| 18:02.32 | g0urra | crucially |
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| 18:03.21 | Amarande | patents stifle innovation, this is extremely obvious. :P |
| 18:03.38 | g0urra | tell me why the second image of http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Deathknight-undead-f-80.gif is the only one that shows the proper image, despite that it's the same image on the latest one too? |
| 18:04.02 | g0urra | yes, I cleared cache, it didn't fix it |
| 18:04.04 | syberghost | Amarande: you mean idiots like Thomas Jefferson? Those kind of people? |
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| 18:04.26 | Amarande | g0urra: the first and second both seem to look right to me, at least when I click on the link to view the actual image |
| 18:04.33 | Amarande | syberghost: I'm thinking in the modern world |
| 18:04.42 | Amarande | maybe they actually did encourage innovation back in Jefferson's day |
| 18:04.44 | Tsurphr | anybody got a sec for an easy LUA question? |
| 18:04.59 | pcj | #wowuidev |
| 18:05.00 | g0urra | Tsurphr: #wowuidev |
| 18:05.04 | Tsurphr | ah cool thx |
| 18:05.05 | Amarande | after all, I am a firm believer in that there are ten simple words which are the worst ones ever for a government :) |
| 18:05.12 | g0urra | Amarande: the correct image is the red one |
| 18:05.13 | Amarande | namely: "Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time" |
| 18:05.19 | Tsurphr | guess I shoulda read topic lol |
| 18:05.26 | g0urra | it's supposed to look like this Amarande: http://forums.wow-europe.com/images/portraits/wow-80/1-5-6.gif |
| 18:05.41 | Amarande | g0urra: first two, as well as that, all seem to look the same to me |
| 18:05.55 | Amarande | -these days- at least, patents stifle innovation |
| 18:06.06 | Amarande | because it's pretty simple. the way innovation should work: |
| 18:06.18 | g0urra | Amarande: so when you open the image it shows the level 80 version? |
| 18:06.27 | Amarande | "hey, this seems like a really good idea. let's gather up all these widgets and put them together into our AWESOME-O" |
| 18:06.34 | Amarande | g0urra: looks like it |
| 18:06.40 | g0urra | >< |
| 18:06.52 | Amarande | however, actual innovation these days: "hey, this looks like a good idea, to put these widgets together and make AWESOME-O" |
| 18:07.14 | Amarande | "what do you mean, the licenses for these widgets would sum to 130% of our profits? Ah well, it was an awesome idea but I guess it's not viable business to make it" |
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| 18:08.22 | Ose | AWESOME-O! |
| 18:08.27 | syberghost | http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/02/strange-and-endanger.html <- jesus christ get in the car it's a giant crawler |
| 18:09.15 | Amarande | But yeah. The problem with patents is that now they get in the way of innovation in a world where everything new tends to be a combination of smaller components |
| 18:09.26 | Amarande | because the combination of licensing fees and lawyers makes all too many neat ideas unviable |
| 18:10.21 | Amarande | of course, I have a somewhat warped and possibly wrong thought process on that |
| 18:10.35 | Amarande | namely, that viable businesses (which is what patents protect, also) are less important than the continuation of the creation and innovation process |
| 18:11.28 | syberghost | The ability to make MONEY off of innovations encourages innovation. |
| 18:11.57 | syberghost | The problem with patents is their length and the ease with which certain categories are granted, not with the concept itself. |
| 18:13.14 | Amarande | syberghost: yeah, that's probably the biggest issue |
| 18:13.22 | Fisker- | g0urra my bbff |
| 18:13.27 | Amarande | back in Jefferson's day, inventions had a much, much longer lifespan than they do now |
| 18:13.47 | Amarande | a widget that was invented in 1803 would almost surely still be useful in 1820 when the patent expired |
| 18:14.03 | Amarande | a widget that's invented in 2003 might as well be an accessory for a horse drawn buggy by 2020 |
| 18:14.16 | Amarande | although, there's one widget that needs inventing |
| 18:14.22 | Amarande | we need CFL bulbs with skinny bottoms :| |
| 18:15.17 | Amarande | especially if the new eco-friendly Democratic administration wants to phase out incandescent bulbs soon |
| 18:16.13 | Amarande | syberghost: however, I tend to disagree on the one point, although most people seem to insist on it |
| 18:16.16 | syberghost | Which is a decidedly eco-unfriendly thing to do since florescents are hazardous waste. |
| 18:16.17 | pcj | cfl bulbs contain mercury vapor :X |
| 18:16.30 | Amarande | "if people couldn't make money by creating, they wouldn't create" seems to be the canard usually tossed around |
| 18:16.49 | Amarande | well, properly disposed of, cfl bulbs are supposed to be more eco-friendly by dint of energy efficiency |
| 18:16.55 | Amarande | however, there's one big problem with them |
| 18:17.05 | Amarande | namely, shaded lamsp |
| 18:17.09 | syberghost | "supposed to be" is marketing hype. |
| 18:17.34 | Amarande | CFL bulbs always have fat bottoms because of the flourescent light ballast component |
| 18:18.15 | Amarande | however, shaded lamps have harps, and smaller shaded lamps' harps tend to have too little space at the bottom near the socket to allow for that ballast bottom |
| 18:18.21 | Amarande | we need CFLs with narrow bottoms :) |
| 18:18.51 | syberghost | We need incandescents. |
| 18:18.58 | syberghost | They're cheaper and better. |
| 18:19.04 | Amarande | actually, CFLs are a better idea for me, if I can use them, which I can't |
| 18:19.11 | Amarande | I'm still wondering when I'm going to get an electrical fire in here heh |
| 18:19.18 | Amarande | I already have to count watts when I turn stuff off and on in this room |
| 18:19.39 | pcj | i think that's just your OCD |
| 18:24.12 | crucially | i hate cfl |
| 18:24.18 | crucially | go LED |
| 18:24.27 | crucially | CFL also make noise |
| 18:24.33 | crucially | flips on the extra ads flag for g0urra |
| 18:25.33 | pcj | activate the interstitials! |
| 18:26.36 | g0urra | activates ABP to counter crucially |
| 18:27.09 | Amarande | pcj: that's having an air conditioner and all kinds of electronics in one room and only having a 15 amp circuit in here |
| 18:27.26 | Amarande | and not wanting to turn too many things on at once and get an overload fire :) |
| 18:27.28 | crucially | Amarande: 110, 208 or 240? |
| 18:27.33 | Amarande | crucially: 120 |
| 18:27.51 | crucially | our datacenter in iowa has 90 amps @ 208 per rack |
| 18:27.58 | crucially | which makes me happy |
| 18:28.09 | Amarande | Volts * amps = watts, so that means I try not to go over 1800W total of stuff on at once |
| 18:28.18 | crucially | yes, i know |
| 18:28.22 | Amarande | it also makes me think they should take 1875W hair dryers off the market as a fire hazard |
| 18:28.34 | crucially | we use 4GB sticks instead of 2GB sticks in san jose |
| 18:28.40 | crucially | because each memory stick is like 4 watts |
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| 18:28.58 | Amarande | I mean ... typical residential circuit is 15A (so 1800W) |
| 18:29.09 | Amarande | they sell hair dryers that -already- go a bit over the safe circuit limit |
| 18:29.19 | crucially | and we use L instead of X intel CPUs |
| 18:29.29 | Amarande | plus there's the fact that people will have lights on in the bathroom while using it (often incandescents, which means in many setups they'd be using another 120-200W or so) |
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| 18:30.30 | syberghost | In the late '80s/early '90s I worked at a radio station. We had a very large signal area, but our transmitter used about the current of an average hair dryer these days. |
| 18:30.40 | syberghost | But we were AM, that goes farther. |
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| 19:31.17 | ronaldl911 | hello |
| 19:31.27 | g0urra | y0 |
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| 19:51.41 | pcj | crucially |
| 19:51.46 | pcj | your hostmask spelled wikia wrong |
| 19:53.51 | sacarasc | haha |
| 20:08.48 | g0urra | crucially_: so tell me why http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Deathknight-undead-f-80.gif doesn't show the correct image |
| 20:10.07 | crucially_ | what should it be? |
| 20:10.21 | g0urra | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/archive/4/4d/20081203180250!Deathknight-undead-f-80.gif or http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/archive/4/4d/20081203200402!Deathknight-undead-f-80.gif |
| 20:10.34 | crucially_ | they look the same to me |
| 20:10.53 | crucially_ | oh crap, i know why |
| 20:10.55 | crucially_ | blames g0urra |
| 20:11.00 | crucially_ | pesky europeans |
| 20:11.06 | g0urra | what? |
| 20:12.43 | g0urra | blames crucially_ |
| 20:12.59 | crucially_ | the european servers aren't cache purging properly |
| 20:13.00 | crucially_ | fixing |
| 20:14.00 | crucially_ | actually, you only say mean things to me |
| 20:14.05 | crucially_ | why should I fix it? |
| 20:14.23 | g0urra | thanks for fixing the wiki for us crucially_ |
| 20:14.37 | crucially_ | hasn't images been loading faster for you? |
| 20:15.04 | Ose | thanks for not sucking as much as g0urra crucially_ |
| 20:15.16 | g0urra | excuse me Ose? |
| 20:15.28 | g0urra | crucially_: yes |
| 20:15.52 | Ose | you can't do anything to me, I have your number as a hostage |
| 20:15.52 | crucially_ | gives g0urra https://monitor1.sjc.wikia-inc.com/weathermap/world.html |
| 20:16.12 | g0urra | Secure Connection Failed |
| 20:16.15 | g0urra | monitor1.sjc.wikia-inc.com uses an invalid security certificate. |
| 20:16.15 | g0urra | The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. |
| 20:16.15 | g0urra | (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) |
| 20:16.24 | crucially_ | yes |
| 20:16.26 | crucially_ | just approve it |
| 20:16.32 | pcj | why even use a secure server if it's self-signed |
| 20:17.00 | Ose | what's the M's and K's? |
| 20:17.19 | g0urra | stop failing so much Ose |
| 20:17.30 | Amarande | pcj: self signed certs still prevent password interception :) |
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| 20:18.26 | pcj | what password |
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| 21:11.40 | syberghost | Amarande: unless the cert you're accepting is from the password intercepter. |
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| 21:24.32 | pcj | crucially is a keylogger |
| 21:24.45 | pcj | i typed in my wow account and password on his site and my account was stolen |
| 21:29.26 | syberghost | Maybe the person you stole it from got it back. |
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| 22:11.21 | crucially_ | pcj: because it is still encrypted |
| 22:11.30 | crucially_ | though, since the data is public, it is kind of silly |
| 22:11.52 | crucially_ | pcj: i could have that certificate saved somewhere |
| 22:24.02 | pcj | http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/12/02/2008-12-02_it_took_90_minutes_for_daily_news_to_ste.html |
| 22:25.17 | pcj | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5276983.ece |
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| 23:16.15 | g0urra | goodnight |
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