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00:00.08Adys"padsp wine TeamSpeak.exe has been working for quite a while now for me. I run teamspeak from a (true, non-wine) win xp partition."
00:00.08AdysI... totally dont get that
00:00.15Adyshes running wine in windows?
00:01.07Camiciowhat do you think
00:01.49winkillerAdys, I'd say TS installed on win xp and running through wine rom a ntrfs
00:01.53winkilleror fat, not from ext
00:01.59Adysooh right
00:02.14Adysi doubt he has xp installed on fat...
00:05.02Camicioi feel like time is moving faster than usual
00:05.12Camiciohow do i check it?
00:05.26straylightget a watch?
00:05.58Camicioi will report back soon
00:06.16Camiciowtf is this shit
00:06.24Camicio30 seconds on my computer and 28 on my watch
00:07.36Camicionow its back to normal
00:07.41winkillerit's a trap!
00:07.50Camiciowtf the song was faster than normal
00:07.59Camiciobut the timer in wmplayer was the same as the windows clock
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00:35.29KuriHmm, anyone here?
00:38.22KuriWell someone sent me a message on wowwiki
00:38.26Kuriand I have no idea how to reply.
00:38.59kd3check your talk page
00:39.23kd3you can typically just reply there if someone actually left you a message and it wasn't wikia announcing something
00:40.38KuriNo, I changed something on Aeus's wiki page stating that he had left (To my knowledge it's 100% true) and someone asked what source I had on it.
00:40.51KuriAnd the only source is many forum posters and locked/deleted threads about it.
00:41.29kd3then point to those on aeus's talk page
00:41.42kd3but if there's no official word, he hasn't left
00:41.52KuriWell, that's just it.
00:41.59KuriHe hasn't posted in months.
00:42.06KuriAny thread asking about it is deleted or locked
00:42.13Kuri(Not using his name in the title)
00:42.22KuriI even got ban for asking.
00:42.23kd3so, then say "recently inactive blizzard poster"
00:43.57KuriI think his last post was in 2007
00:48.13KuriAnd after searching Slorkuz introduction thread, where each CM from each form (Except Tech/In-game help) comes and welcomes him.
00:48.20KuriAeus is nowhere to be found.
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01:35.49Eraclito[[User:Worldtaker]] my eyes burn ;_; wtb Kanaru maps
01:35.50DottedEraclito meant:
01:40.13AdysCultist Infiltrator says: Yep, shoulda gone with the red one!
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02:08.36Dotted oh comeone put some effter into it >_>
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02:44.18blipX   why are builds showing up that cant even be done or am I missing something? I see no improved curse of agony in my talen tree. This in the new exp pak or what?
02:44.44blipXAnd if so is there a Pre-Whateverthelastestexppak calc around?
02:45.06pcjask in #wowhead
02:46.13blipXthanks found it on their site.
02:48.02CorganYou're silly.
02:51.14blipXIs the exp pak out?
02:51.53blipXFrom what I can see its not. So I see nothing silly accept builds and talent calcs in use for talents that technically (presuming what Im reading on blizzards site is true) dont exist yet. lol
02:52.50blipXAnyhow cool to see the new talents just not when Im trying to respec and Im WTF thats not on my list. heh
02:53.03CorganblipX, do you realize that the wotlk beta is active right now.
02:53.17blipXBeta. Its not GA.
02:53.18CorganPeople who are in the beta use the talent calc.
02:53.36blipXId think then they'd have a beta section. But thats just me.
02:53.41Corganthey do. is the beta site is the live site
02:53.57blipXOdd. I got to the wowwiki stuff via regular links.
02:54.06blipXIm not referring to wowhead.
02:54.24CorganYou were linking a wowhead talent calc link.
02:54.40blipXRight via wowwiki.
02:54.55blipXIf I go to the regular page for wowhead and go to tools the one list is non-beta.
02:55.01Corganregardless, wowwiki is a collective of information in the warcraft world
02:55.12Corganthe beta is still valid information to be posted on the wiki ;D
02:55.13blipXSeems like you'd not want wiki to point to the beta. Again, thats just me.
02:55.25Corganespecially since the wiki can be changed as the beta changes
02:55.31blipXYou'd think in a beta area. Again just me.
02:56.36blipXAnyhow sorry not arguing. Just was odd to me when the main link to the tools on wowhead is not the beta stuff.
02:56.57Corganoh and also, the beta talent calculators are on the official WoW site.
02:57.00Corganso it's valid information
02:57.02Corganthat does exist.
02:57.12blipXIn beta.
02:57.21CorganStill valid information.
02:57.28blipXTo beta.
02:57.46Corganto anyone who realizes it's beta information.
02:57.59blipXAnd those that dont will ask precisely what I did. WTF? =)
02:58.26CorganYou're silly.
02:58.39blipXFor instance. If I have CAD software up and a wiki/feature set for it. Im hardly going to want to list the features out of the in testing version accept on a specific page for the beta.
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03:16.52Hojimachongmakes loud noises
03:22.22Bagginsww uh huh
03:23.15Bagginswwnote how he ignores the fact that he assaulted that other member
03:23.30Bagginswwmaking accusations
03:23.44pcjyeah see my reply baggins
03:24.26Bagginswwdidn't even know there was a way to do that, LOL.
03:24.51Bagginswwactually continued attacks even from talk pages can lead to permabans though :p
03:25.42Bagginswwdragol's comments weren't an attack btw, I'll make sur ethe citation is put up in the violation page properly
03:25.57Bagginswwall he did was comment that he didn't think rolandius naming of the page was correct
03:26.12Bagginswwand then Rolandius start going into him...
03:26.23Bagginswwaccusing him of being someone else :p
03:26.32Bagginswwquite crazy...
03:27.03Bagginswwhe completley ignored gourra
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03:34.50pcjmaybe he'll shut up now
03:35.14pcjevery time he opens his mouth he seems to get in trouble
03:35.16pcjkind of sad
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03:44.31BagginswwIt's sad there are people like that :(...
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03:46.33BagginswwHonestly though its not every time he opened "his mouth", if it had been he'd have been banned alot sooner...
03:47.16BagginswwIf only he would have learned to listen, and not be so stubbord, against suggestions.
03:47.40Bagginswwwell not suggestions, "issued commands" :p
03:48.24BagginswwDon't do this kinda thing doesn't mean turn it into a 15 page article about "why what I did should be allowed"
03:50.02BagginswwKirkburn, good constructive post.
03:50.22Kirkburn|afkwhy thank you
03:51.10pcjkirkburn are you staying up to count the entries lol
03:51.24Kirkburn|afknot my job, fortunately
03:51.53pcjis it more automatic than manual, hopefully?
03:55.36Eraclitowanted to mail some viagra, casino, clocks or medicine spam to wowylimpics :> but he stopped at the "send" button
03:57.50pcjim pretty sure wikia could use some viagra
03:57.56pcjit can't stay up
04:11.54BagginswwI entered but I really don't expect to win... I'm generally not that lucky, LOL
04:13.09Kirkburn|afkFungers crossed
04:13.15Kirkburn|afkEr, and fingers
04:13.27Kirkburn|afkAlso, ... so cool
04:13.42Bagginswwso if I wanted to buy a copy of windows vista who sells it the cheapest :p
04:13.50Bagginswwthe university doesn't seem to carry it :p
04:14.05Kirkburn|afkLook for OEM copies of Vista Premium
04:14.33Eraclito moar cool
04:14.36Kirkburn|afkmisses singing
04:14.47Eraclitolistens and dies
04:16.10GaroukI just want in the beta. doubt i'll win, tho.
04:16.13pcjkirkburn that's piracy :o
04:16.23Kirkburn|afkaww, Virgola the gattino
04:16.30Kirkburn|afkpcj, no it isn't
04:16.50pcjbuying an OEM copy is piracy unless it comes with a new computer
04:16.53ReAnOEM just means w/o the manual/etc...
04:17.23Kirkburn|afkThe licensing is indeed different
04:17.34Kirkburn|afkGenerally licensed for a single PC
04:18.58Kirkburn|afk <-- an overview
04:19.31Kirkburn|afkSpecifically the "Can I buy OEM?" part, which basically says, yes.
04:19.59Bagginswwtechnically some oem deals is having to buy with computer parts
04:20.04pcj"Genuine OEM Windows desktop operating system software is designed exclusively for computer manufacturers to pre-install on their computers. Genuine OEM software always comes with a Certificate of Authenticity (the OEM COA is different from an orange retail proof of license label) and a manual or Quick Start guide. Some major manufacturers provide an OEM disc for re-installing programs, while smaller manufacturers are required to provide a Micros
04:20.47Kirkburn|afkpcj, that has no bearing on whether you are allowed to purchase or use it, it describes the indended purpose
04:21.47Bagginswwoem is full version without the support?
04:22.07Kirkburn|afkIt has same support from Microsoft
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04:22.36BagginswwCompanies keep compliant with Microsoft's rules by bundling OEM versions with a token piece of hardware, like a cable.
04:22.57Kirkburn|afkYeah, I've seen that, but never had to do it myself
04:22.57pcjOEM doesn't have the same support...
04:23.13Kirkburn|afkpcj, as what, though?
04:23.18pcjas retail
04:23.32Kirkburn|afkpcj, so what do you mean by support? Support from whom?
04:23.33Bagginswwbasically I needed a new dvd drive
04:23.41pcjif you're using an OEM version and you contact MS technical support they'll tell you to contact your computer manufacturer
04:23.49Kirkburn|afk"Retail Vista comes with 90 days of free support. OEM edition users don't get that, but paid support is still an option, should you need it."
04:25.54Kirkburn|afkpcj, I'm trying to say, what support are you actually losing? Microsoft still give you exactly the same updates. Phone support would seemingly be more expensive, but are we really expecting Baggins to need to phone MS?
04:26.43pcjthat's the only support i consider
04:26.57pcjfree support is generally..freely available
04:27.16Kirkburn|afkSo, the difference is just 90 days of free support from MS
04:27.48BagginswwI odn't neede the 90 day support :p
04:27.57Kirkburn|afkYou have us ;)
04:28.02Bagginswwheh heh
04:28.11pcj"lol u got virus hahaha"
04:28.47Kirkburn|afkGenerally the main restriction for buying OEM that affects the users is the more restrictive reinstall ability - it's tied to one PC.
04:28.48Bagginswwlast time I used 90 support it was for dos in order to figure out how to set up the config.sys and autoexect.bat for memory reasons.
04:29.25Bagginswwthen really good boot files came along, and now dosbox ;) If I ever play my retro stuff.
04:29.38Kirkburn|afkLike WC1
04:29.47Bagginswwheh heh
04:29.58Bagginswwof King's Quest
04:30.50pcj explains it pretty well
04:30.57pcjunfortunately you can't see it because you're not MS OEM
04:31.09Bagginswwat home I have an old 200 mgs pc for the really h ard to emulate stuff
04:31.30Bagginswwbut I rarely have to dust it off :p
04:31.39Bagginswwthat is I rarely; have to use it :p
04:31.54Bagginswwso it probably own't work when if I needed it :p
04:32.35Bagginswwnewegg sells oem that's where I usually got oems.
04:32.52Bagginswwseems they still have best prices too
04:36.25Kirkburn|afkEraclito, way cooler:
04:36.57pcjBy opening the package, you accept the license, which allows you to distribute the licenses inside the package with fully assembled computer systems.
04:36.57pcjA fully assembled computer system consists of at least a CPU, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply and a case.
04:36.59pcjYou can distribute the software license(s) only with a fully assembled computer system
04:53.50pcjcan we just protect the wowlympics talk page kirkburn lol
05:02.54Eraclitohey i just noticed the new entry to the new naxx, it's cool
05:08.59Eraclitonothing new about frostwyrm lair? before it was located in the dunmorogh-like "northrend" in the naxx map
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05:20.26Bagginswwdoes anyone know what's going to happen with atiesh pieces that dropped in old naxx?
05:20.43Bagginswware they going to keep the drops in naxx, or update atiesh somehow?
05:20.51pcjblizzard knows
05:20.57Bagginswwheh heh
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05:21.57pcjwhoa Inscription is coming with patch 3.0.1, not WotLK?
05:27.35Arrowmasterjewelcrafting came with 2.0.1
05:28.20pcjyou needed TBC
05:28.24Arrowmasteryou couldnt get to any of the trainers but the jewelcutting kit was on vendors and the low level patterns were in
05:28.36pcjok but you can do inscription without WotLK
05:28.49Arrowmasterlike the shadow panther trinket that they fucked up and put the trinket on the vendor atfirst instead of the pattern
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05:29.12Corgang0urra my friend
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08:03.34Ellonwyeug, anybody getting a login servers down error on beta? doesn't seem to be affecting everyone and I'm wondering what I can do to fix it
08:05.25g0urraEllonwye, US?
08:08.00g0urraWell the blues has confirmed it's something on their part
08:08.25Ellonwyeah? oh well, at least it's not my computer
08:08.32Ellonwyesoon, beta.. soon!
08:09.53DottedThe job queue length is currently 25622
08:10.03Bagginswwgourra blizzard is calling small pets companions now?
08:11.18g0urraThey have for some time now
08:11.24g0urraUse one and you'll see
08:11.40g0urraLike "Baby Shark <Ioladin's Companion>"
08:12.05Bagginswwwonder what they were called in the strategy guide I"d have to check
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08:19.00Bagginsww"non-combative pets" and companions
08:19.18Bagginswwactually "Playful companions"
08:19.20g0urraThey are called companions in-game
08:19.23g0urraso I go with that
08:19.49Bagginswwor minion ;)
08:19.56Bagginswwdiablo ;)
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09:05.18Bagginswwwould be funny if a tyrael pet sees a diablo pet they start fighting
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09:39.46Bagginswwundead arthas looks bloated
09:39.49Bagginswwhe has a goiter :p
09:40.08Bagginswwnot as good as his artwork imo :p
10:03.36g0urraWhat is this for...
10:04.09g0urraIt's just a bunch of non-fact and site for vandalism
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10:05.05g0urraBagginsww: what?
10:05.10g0urra then?
10:05.44Bagginswwjust about to get to thta
10:05.57g0urraSo you're going to merge them or something?
10:06.16Bagginswwinpage citation
10:06.33Bagginswwas opposed to creating a disambig style page
10:06.37Bagginswwalthough we could do that
10:07.43g0urraYes, we should.
10:07.58g0urraI know the naming policy Bagginsww but doing that is too far
10:08.03g0urraI'll revert back the move
10:08.10g0urraGo ahead and make Trey Lightforge its own page
10:08.15Bagginswwthat's fair
10:08.20g0urraAnd make links to Spirit and Remains
10:08.30BagginswwI can revert it back myself
10:08.37g0urrathat's fair
10:08.50Bagginswwjust to avoid people think we are fighting LOL
10:08.55Bagginswwwhich we aren't
10:11.04Bagginswwgourra, give me some time
10:11.07BagginswwI'm working on it
10:16.31Bagginswwerm missed a bit lol
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10:20.10Bagginsww is there a source that specifically says that Ahn'Kahet specifically translates to "The Old Kingdom"?
10:20.51g0urraThere isn't, but in-game it's called "Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom"
10:21.01BagginswwIf so it would be an important addition to the Nerubian language page. If not, then it needs the addtion of "aka"
10:21.20BagginswwI'd suggest adding the aka then
10:21.52Bagginswwya that's better
10:21.53g0urraa guild with a rank called Dreadlord...
10:21.57Bagginswwwe don't want to be misleading  heh
10:26.39g0urraBagginsww: are you going to split AN?
10:27.04Bagginswwbut others can
10:28.12g0urraI really, really wouldn't want to go there
10:28.25g0urraWe already have problems with bosses in for example Utgarde Keep
10:28.36g0urraWho uses the template {{Utgarde Keep (instance)}}
10:28.36Dottedg0urra meant:
10:29.10Bagginswwoh, then give your opinion gourra
10:29.25g0urraI'd prefer have the instance at its main
10:29.50g0urraAnd the "main area" or "fortress" is at for example "Utgarde Keep (zone)" or the like
10:30.18g0urraTo be honest it doesn't look good when it says "Utgarde Keep (instance)" in the npcbox
10:30.21Bagginswweh in that case I'd prefer not to split them...
10:30.32g0urraI already did the change to [[The Nexus]]
10:30.32Dottedg0urra meant:
10:31.06Bagginswweh which shouldn't be done :p
10:31.18Bagginswwunless you want to add "The" to all place page names
10:31.37Bagginswwits a conflict of wiki style rules :p
10:31.55g0urraya well tell that to blizzard
10:32.04Bagginswwmodify the infobox to manually put the name into it like npcbox?
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10:32.20Bagginswwit doesn't have to "feed" of the page name :p
10:32.29Bagginswwthen you avoid the problem
10:32.37g0urraUh, that's not it
10:32.52g0urraWe had even a category that said "Category:The Nexus (instance)"
10:32.55g0urraThat's when it gets ugly
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10:33.09Bagginswwuh category should just be both
10:33.27g0urraright now we have Category:Nexus
10:33.31g0urraand Category:The Nexus
10:33.36Bagginswwwhy both?
10:33.50Bagginswwwe don't do that for any other article :p
10:33.51g0urraBecause Nexus is for the main fortress/area
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10:34.22BagginswwI'm saying there was no reason to split the info in the first place :p
10:35.14BagginswwNexus is the nexus... its all related :p
10:35.23Bagginswweven in the rpg it was The Nexus :p
10:35.33Bagginswwwe just dropped "the" because of page policy
10:35.48Bagginswwjust like we dropped "The" from "The Eye" or any other such thing
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10:42.48Bagginswwbut ya we had combined info on Zul'Aman and no one complained
10:43.03Bagginswwinfact we had info combined on pretty much every past dungeon :p
10:44.03Fisker-you are me
10:44.05Fisker-i am you
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11:05.36DottedThe job queue length is currently 25624
11:06.08Bagginswwwell gourra, you might not like this but I'j going to follow past page name thing we did for "eye"
11:06.15BagginswwNexus (Nexus) :p
11:06.30BagginswwEye (Tempest Keep)
11:07.20g0urrathat's just wrong
11:07.39Bagginswwso is "the nexus"
11:07.42Bagginswwdo you have another suggestion?
11:07.52g0urramerge it all to Nexus
11:08.11BagginswwI'd go for that yes
11:08.13g0urraEye (Tempest Keep) is a whole different cookie
11:08.23g0urrasince the other is Eye (Maelstrom)
11:08.27Bagginswwwe can clarify that its The Nexus in the Nexus inside Nexus article :p
11:08.30g0urrawhich is not even close to the same thing
11:10.32Bagginswwhonestly though what was blizz thinking... They should have stuck with Ice Caverns :p
11:11.02Bagginswwor maybe "The Core" :p
11:12.27BagginswwAs for Utgarde Keep and Pinnacle... Blizzard should have used Utgarde as the area name ;)
11:15.14Bagginswwalso come to think of it we never split Deadmines out of the Deadmines even though there is an instance of the same name ;)
11:15.26Bagginswwreally doesn't mean much
11:15.35g0urrawhat do you mean?
11:15.59BagginswwWell there are two parts of deadmines
11:16.06Bagginswwoutside stuff and the instanced stuff
11:16.11Bagginswwboth are called Deadmines
11:16.29Bagginswwso just because instance might be called by the same name
11:16.39Bagginswwdoesn't necessarily mean its a different "location" so to speak
11:16.45Bagginswwnot really a reason to split it
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11:27.02Bagginsww. ! User:Amirw/Azjol-Nerub (dungeon)‎; 11:24 . . (+172) . . Amirw (Talk | contribs | block) (Added loading graphic, ripoff from Azjol-Nerub.)
11:27.09Bagginswwrippoff? what in the world...
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12:03.21HeehaHellow wowwiki
12:04.03HeehaMy hopes are sky high regarding the WoWlympics now. WTB beta
12:06.26Fisker-i won them all
12:06.33Fisker-WTS 23 beta keys
12:06.59KnofleYou need two yourself?
12:07.07Fisker-oh WTS 28 beta keys then
12:09.12KnofleI read that the winners are announced by mail, but that is the first place they are announced?
12:09.38KnofleI guess so, given that it kinda sucks to announce a dude that didn't claim his prize
12:10.43Fisker-i can see it now
12:10.46Fisker-From: Wowwiki
12:10.51Fisker-Subject: Congratulations
12:11.05Fisker-Body: ...On participating in our contest, unfortunately you didn't win
12:12.48KnofleI'm pretty stoked about the upcoming weeks though
12:12.59KnofleBeing that the talents and stuff is being released
12:13.07KnofleThe wotlk talents that is. :)
12:14.00pcjwooo paladins are getting evocate
12:14.04Fisker-game still seems pretty unfinished so hoping this is not a signal that they're releasing wotlk in a month or 2
12:14.34KnofleI have my money on early november
12:14.39g0urraold pcj
12:14.49KnofleBut that's just me :)
12:14.49pcjduh g0urra
12:14.56pcjbut its going to be live soon
12:15.14KnofleI don't get it. "some of the larger features" - "Zeppelin towers outside of Orgrimmar and Tirisfal Glades"
12:15.16Knoflelol wut?
12:15.48pcjyeah they're buffing horde
12:16.04KnofleBy putting ....  another zeppelin tower there?
12:16.16g0urraand another one outside undercity
12:16.29KaNNissooo em
12:16.36KaNNisI wonder if I won a petz
12:17.12KnofleNO, IS MINE
12:17.29Knofleu go 'way
12:18.09KnofleI don't really understand WHY they are putting more zep towers there, but nvm.
12:18.30KaNNissame as SW harbor
12:18.35KaNNisso we can get used to it
12:18.36KnofleOh, right
12:19.13KnofleI'm not an arena man, but the two new arenas sound pretty cool
12:40.43Corganwhy so zeppelin g0urra
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12:52.23KnofleHow good do you think the blizzard threat meter is going to be?
12:52.30KnofleAs far as i've seen so far, it looks crap.
12:54.05Fisker-Design philosophy
12:54.35KnofleWell, at least it'll be an accurate tool to build a good threat meter around. :P
12:54.39Fisker-having a huge list of names and numbers in the corner is not part of how Blizzard wants to design  their ui
12:54.50Fisker-which is exactly why they make stuff simple
12:54.57Fisker-ui makers can do all that if they like
12:56.15KnofleI guess you are right, but the pictures I've seen of it now seem like they are not usable at all for many fights
12:56.34KnofleSince you only see the percentage to when you pull aggro
12:56.54Corganit shows a percentage in the tooltip
12:56.55KnofleAnd many fights require you to stay under an eventual offtank
12:57.06Corganand also there's a color system above the mob's portrait
12:57.17Fisker-It also shows on party frames (don't know about the raid frames)
12:58.43Fisker-threatmeters will be almost completely useless in expansion though
12:58.44Fisker-most likely
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13:12.30pcjyeah they're making it easier for tanks to do their job well
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13:15.07tuttsHello people.
13:15.40tutts"The WoWlympics have ended!" <- that means if I have no e-mail by now I lost, right?
13:20.24tuttsAny news on when I can stop hoping? :P
13:21.01tuttsAh well.
13:21.03tuttsThanks :)
13:38.19pcjhis kids seem so fake
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13:54.40OseKirkburn where's my betakey?
13:55.18KaNNisI ate it
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14:08.22OseKirkburn where's my betakey?
14:08.26Ose lol
14:08.33Osesmart patch notes
14:09.49Ose"Players who have not raised any trade skills to the maximum level will no longer complain about being poor as they now realise this is entirely their own fault."
14:10.06Ose"The terms "pls, newb, lolz, ffs, no-lifer, casual and welfare" have been removed from the vocabulary of all players and consigned to the dustbin of gaming history where they so surely belong."
14:11.37Ose"Players have now learned to remove from their inventory pointless quest items they have had since level 30: We estimate that approximately 250,000 spaces have been freed up from the deletion of Library Scrip items alone."
14:15.17pcjkirkburn this is an interesting bug and i think i've seen it before
14:20.47mxsSo, FileFront just closed my account
14:20.56mxsfor distributing illegal content, illegal files, etc.
14:21.13mxsapparently, they are gonna forward all my personal information to law enforcement, and black helicopters are gonna swarm my pad any second now
14:21.29mxs(for )
14:21.55mxslesson learned : don't use FileFront to help betatesters get their patches. They don't like the traffic.
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14:24.24Fisker-but mxs
14:24.28Fisker-if Blizzard don't want you to
14:24.32Fisker-Why haven't they sent a DCMA?
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14:26.17^BlueBear^Hi everyone ...
14:26.30^BlueBear^can u guys help me with a problem i have ??
14:26.46mxsFisker-: if Blizzard doesn not want me to, I'll delete all mirrors this second. However, the patch thread has even been recommended by blues.
14:27.18mxsand yes, I'd have received DMCA notices. I haven't. I don't think I will.
14:27.27mxs^BlueBear^: what's your problem ?
14:28.04Fisker-so wtf is filefronts problem?
14:28.23Fisker-It's not their problem to determine whether or not an user is allowed to distribute what he is
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14:28.43Krapswill a GM exchange a quest reward for me if i ask?
14:28.55winkillerbut I wouldn't do it
14:28.59tuttsWhat region?
14:29.02winkilleryou only have X restors per account
14:29.13Krapshellfire penn
14:29.16winkillerI'd wait for "wrong raid loot" or something
14:29.20foxlitThey claim X=1, tbh
14:29.20tuttsNo, that's realm.
14:29.20Fisker-he mean if you're EU or US
14:29.23tuttsRegion is US or EU.
14:29.32^BlueBear^hey guys i have a patch problem  ::. the thing is i have patches WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enGB-Win-patch
14:29.34^BlueBear^WoW-2.3.3-to-2.4.0-enGB-Win-patch but i cannot install the ... what to do pls help /?
14:29.34Fisker-if you're EU you'll have to report it within 3 days
14:29.36Krapsoh, us
14:29.52tuttsCan't help you then.
14:29.58winkillerI wouldn't do it
14:30.02Fisker-just open a ticket Kraps
14:30.04winkillerquest rewards aren't worth it :P
14:30.16^BlueBear^anyone pls
14:30.37tuttsUs Europelanders don't have a set number of restores, but we can be denied them if we abuse the option.
14:31.10Krapsno one knows if there really are limits
14:31.37Fisker-it's the same for US as far as i know
14:31.49Fisker-we don't know what the ... is ^BlueBear^
14:31.50^BlueBear^am i invisible ?? :D
14:31.58Fisker-but from the looks of it you're missing some patches
14:32.09Fisker-just use the client to determine what updates to get
14:32.24^BlueBear^WoW-2.4.2-enGB-downloader.exe ?
14:32.43tuttsStart the game, log in.
14:32.50Krapsactually, my realm is dalvegyr
14:32.51tuttsIt will tell you that there's a patch and download it.
14:33.02Krapssp? :P
14:33.33^BlueBear^kazzak ftw :D
14:35.40foxlitthey actually changed those at some point, the wording used to be that you could only get something lost as a result of your actions restored once
14:35.41Krapsits the same basicly
14:36.04foxlitNow it's "We reserve the right to refuse restoration if we feel an excessive number of requests have been made in this particular category"
14:36.30Krapswhich is fine with me
14:36.47^BlueBear^ok so i started the game ... and the game started downloading some patch.. are those the pattches im missing .. does the downloader automatically detects what patches im missing or ??
14:36.54tuttsBah, stupid weapon skills...
14:37.06^BlueBear^ok ty
14:37.19Krapsi have this love/hate relationship with the fury tree :/
14:37.56pcjheh, ragestorm
14:38.01pcj"speculation is only allowed when it's not"
14:38.10tuttstbh I should probably just ignore my sword skill.
14:39.05Krapstutts: what class are you?
14:39.29tutts...I'm a completionist :3
14:39.57Krapsskills shouldnt be a problem for mana classes
14:40.12^BlueBear^what progress do u have
14:40.15tuttsActually, I use it when killing magic immune wyrms in Kara.
14:40.21Krapswarriors, on the other hand...
14:40.25tutts304 skill atm.
14:40.41tuttsI want to get it up to 375 so I can use my sexeh sun eater properly :3
14:41.00tutts(I only have it 'cause the tank for that run had something better)
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14:41.27Krapsgo to stocks, if you can
14:41.57Krapsbest weap lvling
14:42.00tuttsAh, food time.
14:42.09^BlueBear^as a priest warriors are my favourite (to be healed) class :P
14:43.01^BlueBear^they dont go down on 1-2 hits
14:43.06^BlueBear^maybe 3-4
14:43.14^BlueBear^depends ofc ...
14:43.28^BlueBear^on the situation
14:43.35Krapsno, depends on ^
14:43.46^BlueBear^im talking about dps warriors
14:44.27^BlueBear^tank warriors dont keep agro like loladins but they also dont lose their HP that easy
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15:16.17g0urraOse, it has been protected before, and appearantly admins *cough*Fandy*cough* didn't like it
15:23.06KnofleLoads of people have probably asked, but do you get some sort of reply via e-mail if you DON'T win the WoWlympics?
15:23.46g0urrayes, you will get an e-mail that says "YOU FAIL"
15:24.04KnofleCan't wait for it!
15:24.32KnofleWas the contest a big success btw? Many people participated?
15:24.39g0urraask Kirkburn
15:24.50KnofleMeh, I guess he has enough to do atm. :P
15:24.53pcjactually g0urra it was me
15:25.00pcjit shouldn't be protected per wikia protection policy
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15:27.22KnofleHm, I tried the "Recruit a Friend" with a trial account a 7-8 days ago, and it worked like a charm. It doesn't anymore.
15:27.39KnofleKrai, cba paying for another account
15:27.47g0urrawhy so capture wintergrasp and world server down Fisker- ?
15:28.05Fisker-g0urra my friend
15:28.14Fisker-my cat is totally >:3
15:30.46KnofleAre all the staff and major contributors of WoWwiki in the beta?
15:31.08KnofleI mean, does Blizzard support you in any way?
15:31.30tuttsI doubt they suppurt the major contributors.
15:31.44Fisker-people either got in randomly or because they knew someone at blizzard
15:31.50Fisker-or were at wwi/blizzcon of course
15:32.21KnofleYeah, but they seem to favourise e.g Nihilum and the major guilds, because they are a great asset for testing content
15:32.38g0urraI test lions in cars
15:32.39KnofleI would think that major WoW sites would be just as good in contributing to that
15:32.43g0urrawhat about you Fisker-? >:3
15:33.03infobotACTION gets in the car
15:33.29tuttsNo, the other major WoW sites are good at getting info to the masses. Blizzard needs people who can test the content to see if it's working as intended(c).
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15:34.10KnofleYes, but one would think that a major WoW site such as wowwiki would be more eager to test this type of content
15:35.09KnofleBut I guess that might not be the case. Idk. :P
15:35.37sacarascthey should have given me a beta key, i'd test the hell out of the game
15:35.57KnofleI would probably be 80 by now, and in /lfg for Naxxramas
15:36.21sacarascexcept there's a level cap and naxx isn't in the game yet ;p
15:36.32Knoflelevel cap is 80 now though ;)
15:36.35sacarascis it?
15:36.43sacarascthought it was like 79 or something
15:36.52sacarascjust to annoy people
15:36.58KnofleGot changed almost a week ago, no?
15:37.02sacarascthat's where I'd set it
15:37.14g0urraI still can't fucking play a ret pala though
15:37.17g0urrasince judgements are broken
15:37.44KnofleWell, you can play it more than before. ^^
15:37.48KnofleAt least harder
15:37.52KnofleBut not properly
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15:39.03Knoflesacarasc: They have linked a 2h trash loot weapon on Mmo-champion. You sure naxx isn't up?
15:39.03Fisker-g0urra if i don't kill you, then i will
15:39.19KnofleOr is it just data mined?
15:39.19Fisker-That just means the item exists
15:40.01KnofleWell, if they can data mine that easily, you would think there would be loads more items found.
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15:44.50KnoflePatience, I presume.
15:45.01*** topic/#wowwiki by pcj -> Welcome to #wowwiki, please read | UI&Macros: #wowuidev | CVN: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | WotLK portal: | WotLK addons: | The WoWlympics have ended, no winners yet, stop asking
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15:45.39*** topic/#wowwiki by foxlit -> Welcome to #wowwiki, please read | UI&Macros: #wowuidev | CVN: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | WotLK portal: | WotLK addons: | The WoWlympics have ended, I won.
15:46.01tuttsFail, there were supposed to be 25 winners.
15:46.03foxlitNot really, but hey :)
15:46.15tuttsOr at least 20.
15:46.21tuttsNot sure how that was supposed to work.
15:46.37foxlit"me and my 24 friends won"?
15:46.55Knofle20 EU beta keys + Tyrael pet, 5 US beta keys
15:46.56tutts*gets mental image of Brutallus*
15:47.11KnofleWhy don't you bring 24 of your friends, foxlit!?
15:47.45KnofleFuck, regarding that. I'm going to have fun wiping on him tomorrow. Woo.
15:48.07tutts<- still in Kara
15:48.52KnofleI'm a resto druid that doesn't do PvP, btw. Am I weird?
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15:49.33KnofleWell, I made it to 1700 rating with a holy priest with PvE spec and 0 resilience though. xD
15:49.35tuttsI'm a Frost Mage who doesn't do PvP.
15:49.57KnofleHaha, that is a bit strange though.
15:50.05tuttsFrost mana > Fire mana.
15:50.08tuttsBy far.
15:50.21KnofleFire damage > Frost damage.
15:50.23KnofleBy far
15:50.28tuttsBy not very far, actually.
15:50.56tuttsFrost has more and larger crits to make up for the lower base damage¨.
15:51.07KnofleWell, frost is good if you have a few mages that attend every raid, and you have one that is deep frost, and the others arcane/frost afaik
15:51.28tuttsOoh, I'm Frost/Arcane. Sorry :P
15:51.28KnofleBut we use fire mages
15:51.44tuttsArcane Meditation + Mage Armor is win.
15:52.05tuttsAdd a little Spirit to your gear and you're out of the "QQ i has no manaz" crowd.
15:52.16tutts(not too much though)
15:52.18KnofleChain pot!
15:52.23tuttsI do chain pot.
15:52.33tuttsExcept, I chain destro pots instead of mana pots.
15:52.50tuttsI don't even need my mana pots.
15:52.52tuttsOr my mana gem.
15:53.06KnofleI guess you might have problems with mana in karazhan gear. I don't think our mages complain that much though, naturally
15:53.22tuttsOr, the mana gem can be useful if I don't have BoW or a shadow priest or a spirit buff...
15:53.46tuttsHeh, I'm not in Kara gear though :P
15:53.49KnofleI'm a resto druid that doesn't get spirit buff, since all the priests are CoH. :'(
15:53.56KnofleI want my spirit!
15:54.16tuttsThat's silly, in a Sunwell guild there should be someone who has it...
15:54.35tuttsEven if it's only one person.
15:54.52KnofleCoH is insane, no priest with a right mind would spec spirit over CoH.
15:54.57KnofleAt least not for personal benefit
15:55.01tuttsI do on my Priest.
15:55.10tuttsBecause the improved spirit buff is insane too.
15:55.16KnofleI guess it is
15:55.31tuttsSpeccing spirit buff and NOT improved is stupid.
15:56.05KnofleBut with CoH, one of our priests single handedly heals all the bloodboils on Gurtogg Bloodboil in BT. We're talking about over 2500 healing per second.
15:56.16tuttsOnly one?
15:56.19KnofleHe pulled aggro from the main tank at one point
15:56.28tuttsThen wth are the other Priests doing speccing it too? :P
15:56.42KnofleHe doesn't usually do it, since it's hard
15:57.02tutts...doesn't it boil down to pressing the CoH button over and over?
15:57.22KnofleYes, I guess you can say that.
15:57.35KnofleIt's also good on trash, unless you have heaps of resto shamans. Which are good in sunwell
15:57.49tuttsThat's not hard. That's easy. Mage level easy.
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15:58.14KnofleHehe, It is hard when people don't follow their bloodboil groups ;)
15:58.29KnofleWhich they should do, but people don't always.
15:58.49tuttsI wouldn't say hard... 'hard' implies that you can do it better by doing it differently :P
15:59.10KnofleYes, yes. But we were discussing the raid viability of Circle of Healing. ;)
15:59.18Knoflenot whether it was hard to press or not
15:59.22tuttsAlso, I have no idea what a bloodboil is, it sounds like a skin disease.
15:59.29KnofleHehe, almost. :)
15:59.41KnofleIt's a rotating debuff that does periodic damage
15:59.57KnofleAbout 800 dps on 5 people at a time
16:00.02tuttsOh, kinda like Prince's swords except it's a debuff?
16:00.09KnofleNot exactly :P
16:00.15tuttsAnd hits more people?
16:00.15KnofleAnd up to 15 people have it at the same time
16:00.30Knofle800 dps * 15
16:00.37tuttsAnd, considering you mention groups, it's somehow controllable?
16:00.56KnofleYes, it hits five people which are furthest away from the boss
16:01.03KnofleSo people have to move out
16:01.16tuttsSounds right.
16:01.35tuttsDoes it stack?
16:01.47KnofleYes, so groups have to rotate
16:02.13KnofleWe're farming Illidan, and bloodboil is still hard to do.
16:02.19tuttsWhy not let the first group stack it to 3 so they take 2400 DPS? The CoH priest will still do 2500 HPS...
16:03.04tuttsOr wait, that's 2500 HPS divided by all the people who are healed, isn't it?
16:03.33KnofleI guess
16:04.00tuttsBut if they take 800 DPS each, wouldn't that require 4000 HPS to keep them up, not 2500?
16:04.01KnofleWell, I guess you could do it that way, but you spread in the next phase, which in turn makes it harder to control
16:04.18KnofleI looked it up, and it's 600 dps, not 800, sorry
16:04.28tuttsNo worries, still a lot.
16:04.29KnofleSo, spreading the damage helps in the next phase
16:04.33tuttsAnd that'd take 3000 :P
16:05.03tuttsHow does it spread?
16:05.09KnofleWell, I guess other healers help once the bloodboils are off one group, the CoH priest just keeps them from dying
16:05.15KnofleThe boss casts it
16:05.45tuttsNo, I mean, in the next phase, you say it spreads... how?
16:05.54KnofleNo, people have to spread ;)
16:06.03KnofleWhich in turn makes CoH hard to cast
16:06.18tuttsAye, it would.
16:06.50KnofleVery cool boss, btw. You should try to get there ;)
16:07.02tuttsI could probably look for a PuG or something :P
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16:07.51tuttsThat imba site thing says I should be running BT and MH now.
16:07.58Knofleah, be.imba :D
16:08.11tuttsI don't trust an automated evaluation of my gear tbh.
16:08.32KnofleIt recommends I get 3% less crit taken talent for PvE, lal
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16:09.15tuttsFor me, it complains that I'm overcapped for arcane hit v_v
16:09.24tuttsHello :)
16:09.45Hojimachongit whines at me about hit rating >.<
16:09.46KnofleHm, it doesn't work for me atm. Strange
16:09.54KnofleDual wield class, Hoji?
16:10.04Hojimachong...warrior tank
16:10.10tuttsI only have that arcane hit talent for when I tank Krosh, when I don't have my hit gear on :P
16:10.46KnofleOn what gear level Hoji?
16:11.01tuttsIt'd probably whine at my weapon skills too if it knew them :P
16:11.08KnofleOh, ok. I guess there ain't much hit on that
16:11.13Hojimachongnot yet...
16:11.23Hojimachong...but we've started gruuls, I'm itchin for that shield
16:11.42tuttsGruul's is awesome fun :)
16:11.50tuttsI've only been there a few times though.
16:12.00KnofleLal, we've killed Illidan about 20 times, and we've got a glaive already, but we haven't got the shield from him. :P
16:12.05tuttsGood PuGs don't come along as often as they should v_v
16:12.09KnofleDamn thing never drops
16:12.27tuttsOh, that big spiky iron door thing?
16:12.34Hojimachongif my guild is in Gruuls, can we safely try Mag as well?
16:12.40KnofleThe one you can hide behind. :P
16:12.51KnofleMagtheridon is nerfed to hell, so yes you can. :P
16:12.57HojimachongI want mah title
16:13.01tuttsI once saw a screenshot of a Tauren holding it, it literally covered a whole doorway.
16:13.16tuttsThat title is overrated tbh.
16:13.22tuttsI don't wear mine.
16:13.25KnofleDo you still get the title?
16:13.35Hojimachongplease, I'm on the Bladefist server, it's not overrated there
16:13.36tuttsChampion of the Naaru? Yeah.
16:13.37KnofleI wear "Grunt Knofle" For good measure. :)
16:13.49tuttsI'm just "Tutti" :P
16:14.07tuttsI could be Private Tutti or Tutti, Champion of the Naaru... but IMO, having just the name is more epic.
16:14.43tuttsAn opinion that mostly comes from Ocarina of Time, where all the bosses had titles and suddenly you got to the epic battle at the end and Ganon had no title.
16:15.09KnofleOh, god. I love that game.
16:15.16tutts"I don't need a title, my name says it all" epic.
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16:16.50tuttsOoT was awesome!
16:17.16KnofleBest Zelda game, hands down.
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16:17.52tuttsThere are other good ones ofc.
16:17.59tuttsTwilight Princess was epic too.
16:18.05KnofleI never finished it. :(
16:18.08Knoflebut I have it
16:18.10tuttsMinish Crap, on the other hand...
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16:20.36tuttsAnd Link's Awakening was just confusing v_v
16:21.09KnofleWhat console is that for?
16:21.24KnofleI've only played oot, wind waker and twilight princess
16:21.32tuttsA special edition came out later with a new dungeon only available on the GameBoy Color :P
16:21.54tuttsYou've missed out on a bit tbh.
16:21.59KnofleI guess
16:22.08tuttsThe Oracle games were good.
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16:22.52tuttsALttP was... long, but decent.
16:23.15tuttsMajora's Mask was awesome, even though the story was a bit od.
16:23.28Bagginswwthey have all been pretty good
16:23.34tuttsNot all.
16:23.40tutts*thinks of Minish Crap and shudders*
16:23.41KnofleOh, yeah. I've played majora's mask
16:23.50BagginswwI liked Minish cap, except that it was too short
16:23.56Bagginswwnot enough dungeons
16:24.18tuttsAnd the ones you got were too generic.
16:24.31Bagginswwalthough I'd say capcom games were not quite as good pure Nintendo ones
16:24.44Bagginswwbut still enjoyable to me
16:25.00tuttsAnd Phantom Hourglass had that annoying temple of whatever-it-was on the first island that you always had to go back to.
16:25.12Bagginswwthe oracle series was annoying in that you had to deal with too many passcodes
16:25.25KnofleI hate all the water temples in every Zelda game, btw.
16:25.34BagginswwPhantom Hourglass has awesome controll scheme
16:25.38tuttsWhich would invariably take half an hour just to get there because of the arbitrary sailing minigame they could've just taken out...
16:25.58tuttsWater temples suck >.<
16:26.08Bagginswwwhat's wrong with them?
16:26.16tuttsToo much water...
16:26.23Bagginswwafraid of water?
16:26.30KnofleRun there, run back, raise water leve, run back there to get stuff, then run back to lower water level
16:26.42tuttsSeriously though, they're confusing, and the puke-green and light purple scenery doesn't make it better.
16:26.54Bagginswwdidn't find it that confusing LOL
16:27.04Bagginswwice temple in original LTTP was the most confusing one to me
16:27.09KnofleI just got so desoriented in every one of them. :P
16:27.26tuttsThe fish in OoT wasn't so bad, it was pretty small and simple.
16:27.29Bagginswwyou know which game I'm disoriented in?
16:27.38BagginswwMP Hunters
16:27.53BagginswwI ca't figure out what bosses I still need to clear
16:27.55Bagginswwor where they are
16:27.59KnofleWhat game is that?
16:28.04BagginswwMetroid Prime
16:28.15tuttsExcept the Master Quest thing, it took me hours to figure out that I had to shoot a frickin cow -.-
16:28.24Bagginswwwell that was the point of it ;)
16:28.30tuttsThe Prime series was good.
16:28.33tuttsExcept Hunters.
16:28.48KnofleI'm only playing WoW and Hidden nowadays. :D
16:28.51BagginswwHunters is good, just it could have used a radar to point you to your next area
16:28.59tuttsThe Hunters demo that came for free with every DS is better than the full game tbh.
16:29.07Bagginswwyou put it down for amonth and you can easily loose track
16:29.17Bagginswweh I hate the demo LOL
16:29.31Bagginswwalthough I liked one of the control schemes on it that was cut :p
16:30.11KnofleHave any of you heard about Hidden though?
16:30.23tuttsHunters' problem was that the story mode was just patched onto a multiplayer game.
16:30.38tuttsOoh, wait.
16:30.42tuttsI think they Found it.
16:30.51KnofleThe plot is great. Only multiplayer, and there is one semi-invisible guy with a knife that tries to stab 7-8 marines. :D
16:30.55BagginswwI need to go back to MP Hunters with a strat guide though, and just slowly retrace my steps until I run into a boss
16:31.12KnofleSucks, baggins. :P
16:31.46BagginswwI pretty sure the next boss was on the iceplanet, but I can't remember which way :p
16:31.48tuttsThe last boss of Hunters, excluding the hidden optional super secret one, was fun.
16:31.59Bagginswwthere was a super secret one too?
16:32.28KnofleSeems like every one is super secret. :P
16:32.29tuttsYeah, you had to shoot the right wall decorations with the right special weapons while fighting the ordinary last boss.
16:33.00BagginswwI still need to play corruption
16:33.06tuttsYou haven't played it?
16:33.09BagginswwI have it
16:33.11tuttsShame on you!
16:33.15Bagginswwbut university and all
16:33.20Bagginswwand I was playing Twilight's Princess
16:33.32Bagginswwkind of hard to play both at the same time :)
16:33.40KnofleYou don't play WoW, baggins? :P
16:33.48Bagginswwnot right now
16:33.58tuttsI do.
16:34.00KnofleAight, but you are an admin at wowwiki?
16:34.02tuttsWeapon skill ftl.
16:34.22Bagginswwseveral admins don't play currently
16:34.37KnofleOh, right
16:34.47KnoflePlanning on coming back for Wotlk then?
16:35.21Bagginswwat least to enjoy the scenery for a bit... Don't expect I'll get the time to go into raiding mode :p
16:35.24KnofleWhat do/did you play?
16:35.42Bagginswwwell I also have LOTRO which I absolutely love but hardly have the time to play :p
16:35.45tuttsHm, apparently there's a Norwegian edition of WoWWiki...
16:35.55Knofle<-- Norwegian. :)
16:36.01tutts<-- Also Norwegian.
16:36.08BagginswwI have to avoid time sink style games and study :p
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16:36.20tuttsProblem is, a lot of stuff is kept English.
16:36.25Bagginswwwhich makes it diffiuclt to get very far :p
16:36.26tuttsExcept "Lich King".
16:36.38tuttsWhich is translated into something that means "Count Corpse" v_v
16:36.51KnofleI study chiropractics, and I farm Illidan. :P
16:37.05tuttsI study IT and I play WoW religously.
16:37.07KnofleWhich is a pretty hard study, although I don't get the best grades. ;)
16:37.15Bagginswwsee that's the thing
16:37.20BagginswwI prefer grades :p
16:37.26Bagginswwto as best as possible
16:37.28KnofleWell, I got 98% in anatomy! :P
16:37.54KnofleBut yeah, I understand the choice ;)
16:38.05tuttsI just disagree with it :P
16:38.29Bagginswwbasically the only time I had time when was when I was parttime student
16:39.00Bagginswwbut taking on a full load... well I have to be very careful to juggle my time
16:39.11KnofleI only raid twice a week though
16:39.13Bagginswwand free time I have sometimes means extra rest :p
16:39.21Bagginswwpower naps :p
16:39.21tuttsSome level 51 lock is looking at me funny...
16:39.44Adystremblez sous la future colere du roi liche, mortels !
16:39.46tuttsd) stab?
16:40.48Bagginswwhmm Blizzard and Squenix should get together and make an old style turn based rpg set in the Warcraft Universe
16:41.01tuttsLike Warcraft, except slower?
16:41.01KnofleHeroes style?
16:41.02Bagginswwfor the DS or PSP or both
16:41.12BagginswwFinal Fantasy maybe
16:41.21tuttsNot a bad idea though, they did after all make an RTS out of Final Fantasy.
16:41.34Bagginswwnah it was turn based strat I think
16:41.36Bagginswwif you mean tactics
16:41.45Bagginswwnot real time
16:41.49tuttsNah, I'm talking about XII: RW.
16:42.09tuttsI'm playing Tactics A2 :P
16:42.21tuttsI know it's not an RTS.
16:42.21BagginswwI'm working ffiv again :)
16:42.38BagginswwI'll get a2 at some point
16:42.48tuttsIt's good.
16:42.55tuttsThey changed the law system though.
16:43.02BagginswwI want to get remake of original tactics
16:43.24tuttsNow, apart from a few battles, you can choose whether to follow the law or not.
16:43.50tuttsIn return, there are ridiculous laws like 'not allowed to be robbed' or 'must move exactly 1 space'.
16:44.13Bagginswwbut ya a final fantasy 1 style choose party out of a list of classes, or a ffv job system would be pretty cool in a warcraft rpg
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16:44.49tuttsIf you're a raid leader you can still choose a party from a list of classes :P
16:45.01Bagginswwof course they could do it closer to say Saiken Densetsu 3, and Romance Saga and let you choose from a list of characters and get different stories for each one
16:46.01Bagginswwnot quite the same Tutts, ;)
16:46.01tuttsI knoe.
16:46.01Bagginswwbut ya they could perhaps do a story set during the troll wars ;)
16:46.08Bagginsww3000 years ago
16:46.22Bagginswwplay lothar's ancestor
16:46.45Bagginswwthat story is vague
16:46.51Bagginswwthere is alot they could do with it
16:46.53tuttsWasn't the troll wars before the other races evolved?
16:47.29Bagginswwit was humans, high elves, maybe some gnomes and a rare dwarf
16:47.46Bagginswwagainst the trolls
16:48.10tuttsWhat about the Tauren?
16:48.13Bagginswwof course you'd kinda have to give the trolls some allies :p to make it interesting :p
16:48.21Bagginswwnope it was Eastern Kingdoms only
16:48.40tuttsAnd the Tauren were stuck on Kalimdor.
16:48.42Bagginswwmostly in lordaeron actually as I recall
16:49.20tuttsFighting Manhorsecow and his spawn.
16:49.54AdysAnyone has a mirror for the wotlk cinematic in high resolution?
16:50.05Adysthe downloader doesnt grab a single byte here
16:50.21tuttsAnd the Draenei and Orcs were still on Draenor...
16:50.27tuttsI think that covers all the races?
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16:51.08tuttsI like to have stuff accounted for :P
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16:51.49tuttsbtw, now that the contest is over we can discuss the answers, right?
16:52.38jaxdahldo you think the achievement system will be limited to wotlk owners?
16:52.44Adysit will not
16:52.44tuttsOh excrement, I have to go to piano practice, see ya.
16:52.56jaxdahladys, think it'll make it into the 3.0 update?
16:53.01jaxdahlthey didn't explicitly mentino it
16:53.06AdysIm not sure, they didnt mention it
16:53.20AdysI'd see why they would put it anyway and I hope it does
16:53.39Adysactually seeing as the UI changes will be there i dont see why they wouldnt enable them
16:54.44Bagginswwand undead were rare.
16:54.54Bagginswwforsakendidn't yet exist :p
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17:52.47KaNNishoy Kikburn :D
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18:00.20tuttsBoo, folks.
18:00.26Fisker-so kd3
18:00.33Fisker-ptr this week? >:3?
18:02.11tuttsI have cookies :D
18:04.58Osegood for you!
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18:12.57KnofleI lol'd
18:13.44Knoflepcj, that's me
18:13.53KnofleThey deserved it
18:15.06tuttsOld pic.
18:15.32tutts...hey, I said I'm sorry :(
18:15.36KnofleWell, yeah. Still makes me laugh. :P
18:15.38tuttsYou don't have to keep bringing that up :(
18:18.13KasoI love that template for some reason
18:18.44KnofleReaction guys?
18:18.56KnofleThey are awesome. :D
18:19.25Fisker-sinistar down
18:19.48Kasoit doesnt even bother me that its clearly two different groups of guys
18:21.05KnofleIt's the same guys, exept for one. In just a different location :P
18:21.12KnofleI think
18:22.47Kasothe two in the middle at least are different
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18:23.55KnofleKirkburn seems to have ... problems.
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18:43.32kd3this week? doubt it. next week. there stands a reasonable chance if the wrath build we get on friday isn't stupidly broken
18:46.24Camiciodoes the damage that the snakes of Snake trap do cause spell casting knockback?
18:46.49kd3afaik, yes. thus, I always tend to IAE the snakes to kill them all off anyway
18:47.34KnofleWhat are you on about kd3? The upcoming patch?
18:47.47kd3[14:00:26] <Fisker-> so kd3
18:47.47kd3[14:00:33] <Fisker-> ptr this week? >:3?
18:51.21KnofleWhat do you think the estimates on the wotlk patch is then? I would guess 3-4 weeks, seeing how imbalanced and bugged some of the talents still are.
18:51.38pcjover 9000
18:51.51KnofleThat's a lot of seconds
18:52.01tuttsI guess Soon(TM).
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18:52.24KnofleWell, Blizzard said they will release Wotlk the fifth of when it is ready, so.
18:52.26kd3hint: 1 day = 86400 seconds
18:52.42pcjisn't it weird that 9000 seconds is 2.5 hours but 9000 minutes is 6.25 days
18:52.56KnofleBut over 9000
18:52.58KnofleIs just over
18:53.18tuttsIs it weird?
18:53.28pcjisn't it not weird is a bit odd :P
18:55.05KnofleIt's not not weird
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19:16.39g0urra >_>
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19:40.14winkillercan you skip bloodboil?
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19:41.28KirochiI've seen a problem on the wiki
19:41.35Kirochimaybe a bad ad, maybe worse
19:41.36winkillerOHNOES PROBLEM
19:44.08g0urrawinkiller: you can't
19:44.24winkillermeh, crap :P
19:44.46g0urraI'm hardcore raiding ZA :P
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19:45.19winkiller10 lvl 80s?
19:45.52winkillerKirochi: I blame French
19:45.59winkillerswitch to english and all is fine :D
19:47.12Kirochihad it been so easy...
19:47.14Kirochiho adys
19:47.18Kirochije viens de passer sciences po
19:47.23Adyshoe yourself
19:47.33Adysbah grats :p
19:47.53Kirochij'y retourne demain
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19:52.42Kirochibad ad
19:52.56Kirochi/!\ RED ALERT /!\
19:56.03Kirochijag ska knulla dig din jävla apa
19:56.35KnofleKjeft'a, jævla mongo
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19:57.06KirochiFuckin' funny
19:58.09Kirochijag är man som älskar muuuuus
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20:07.44KaNNiskikburn I cant see the pet code in my mail... this is madness!
20:08.15KnofleUm, I'm just a bit worried. Do me and my brother go by the same ip address if we're on the same router?
20:08.23KnofleBecause both participated in the contest
20:09.14Kirochionly the e-mail counts
20:09.16KnofleI guess you will be checking the IP addresses after the cheating on wowhead
20:09.19KnofleOh, ok then
20:11.34Eraclitod'oh, i had to mail-bomb the answer under my name with more and more mail addresses :°
20:11.54Kirochiyou'll receive 10000 beta keys
20:12.05Eraclitocool *_*
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20:13.09Corganwhy so silly g0urra
20:14.05winkillerKnofle: ip is hardly ever a reasonable factor. for anything
20:14.29KnofleI guess not, but it does prevent more entries with multiple e-mail accounts
20:14.44KnofleEven if you can renew it
20:14.47winkillermostly you can relog your internet connection and say it was your neighbour
20:14.50winkillerso whatever :P
20:15.16Eraclitoyou should try a user-scanner
20:15.24winkillera what?
20:15.29Eraclitoscan every user and remove all the ones who are not me
20:15.36KnofleOr me
20:15.36winkilleryeah, good plan
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20:16.02KnofleHm, I'm currently alchemy and enchanting on my resto druid. What do you think about dropping alchemy for inscription?
20:16.10winkillerI wouldn't
20:16.22KnofleNo? Another glyph wouldn't be worth it?
20:16.29KnofleSeeing that potions are nerfed to hell
20:16.32winkillerdepends on the final glyphs
20:16.44winkillerand I can't speak for yourself
20:16.51winkiller*I* wouldn't
20:17.03winkillerI'm even thinking hard of dropping my skinning for ir
20:17.14KnofleWell, I love it as it is now, with the alchemy trinket.
20:17.26KnofleAnd enchanting is always nice
20:17.44KnofleBut inscription seems very good, although there may be a lot of people rerolling it
20:18.21winkillera lot? very :P
20:18.38KnofleSeems quite easy to reroll though. ;)
20:18.55KnofleAnd it's pretty nice that you can sell enchants on AH now. :D
20:19.16JagannathIt's going to suck leveling to 80.
20:19.31JagannathDefinitely not looking forward to that.
20:19.40winkillerespecially after the 3rd time
20:20.22Jagannath<---Prot warrior.
20:20.28JagannathIt will suck.
20:20.31KnofleWell, I'm sure you have some fury gear?
20:20.37KnofleOr you can go instances the whole way
20:20.38JagannathA bit...
20:20.43JagannathThat's true.
20:20.49JagannathI'll probably end up doing that anyways.
20:20.50foxlitI'm sure you can replace it all with quest gear and live happily ever after
20:20.54KnofleI'm even considering going resto a couple of levels
20:21.25JagannathOutlasting something until it dies of boredom isn't a fast way of leveling lol.
20:21.30KnofleBut I have t6 quality of both, so I don't expect to swap any items until like level 76-77 or something.
20:21.44KnofleI hope
20:21.44JagannathOmg I should go fury.
20:21.47JagannathThat new talent..
20:22.03KnofleHeroic leap looks crap though. :P
20:22.18KnofleWell, i suppose you can be as good with that as throwing grenades
20:22.24KnofleYou just use yourself
20:23.11JagannathLawl at the Sword and Board talent.
20:23.23JagannathTaking our phrases. Psch.
20:24.12JagannathOh wow, they moved Imp Slam to arms. Woot.
20:24.59KnofleWell, with bloodsurge it'll be instant for fury, so
20:25.44KnofleUnending fury looks incredibly good
20:25.56epleI don't like the new fury talents :s
20:26.00epleIt's too good :d
20:26.20JagannathYay for warrios not getting nerfed out the ass. =p
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20:26.34KnofleOh, I honestly didn't know that they switched death wish and sweeping strikes again, lol
20:26.47Saze~who kirkburn
20:26.48infobotAuthor of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management.
20:26.56Saze~last kirkburn
20:27.18KnofleWait, what the fuck?
20:27.27KnofleFury warriors get a mortal strike effect?
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20:27.45KnofleWhich is up 100% of the time you hit on them?
20:28.08epleI think
20:28.30SazeWhat is he doing?
20:28.54KnofleHe has played the online/offline game since I got here
20:30.20KnofleHah, I guess you benefit from "Two handed weapon spec" while going titan grip? :P
20:31.53JagannathFuck yea.
20:32.02JagannathWhirlwind is gonna own.
20:32.14Knofleno shit
20:32.33KnofleYou know that recklessness, shield wall and retaliation is on a 5min cd now
20:32.40KnofleBut they are slightly nerfed
20:33.24Knofle"Your next 3 special ability attacks have an additional 100% to critically hit but all damage taken is increased by 20%.  Lasts 12 sec.
20:33.33KnofleNerfed quite hard :P
20:34.07JagannathThey change anticipation to dodge? :o
20:34.39JagannathShield Block is like a..
20:34.39Jagannath20 second + cd.
20:35.03KnofleWell, I think they are goin for an ability that you can't just spam
20:35.08KnofleBut you have to use it tactically
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20:35.51KnofleAnd high end raiders didn't spec anticipation since they had way too much defense
20:36.00KnofleSo I guess that's why they changed it to dodge
20:36.28JagannathThat makes sense. My def rating is way too high, just from gear bonuses.
20:36.41KnofleWhat gear level do you have?
20:36.55KirochiKEN LEEEEEEEEE
20:36.58JagannathAnd they changed the one-handed specialization to, all dmg is increased when a 1h is equipped as opposed to 1h dmg. :o
20:37.10JagannathEr no.
20:37.26JagannathI think I keep read thing wrong..etf.
20:37.30Jagannathwtf. Gawd.
20:37.40KnofleI think it is right what you said? :P
20:37.52JagannathOh lol.
20:38.00JagannathMan I'm too tired to be looking at specs lol.
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20:38.18JagannathOh, @ gear question. T5/T6 level or so.
20:38.24KnofleIf I choose to raid with my warrior, I guess this might be my spec ;)
20:38.28KnofleHello there
20:38.55winkiller1370 dps on Anetheron, awesome
20:39.03JagannathSeriously, I better be able to put out like x5 the TPS after seeing the fury talent tree lol.
20:39.17KnofleYou will be :D
20:39.30KnofleI think tanking will be way easier to do now
20:39.40KnofleEspecially multiple target tanking
20:39.42mxsFisker-: well, ff replied to my mail. They'll allow it to be hosted -- IF I get explicit and direct permission from Blizzard. Let's see.
20:39.50OseKen Lee Kirochi?
20:39.55JagannathLook @ Vigilance!
20:40.00Kirochi ose
20:40.07OseI know
20:40.16PRH_Any wiki admins here right now?
20:40.27JagannathIncrease party member's dodge by 5% and reduce their threat by 10%
20:40.32KnofleExactly ;)
20:40.34JagannathAnd they refresh the taunt cd.
20:40.44infobotmethinks sexleg is $1 <reply>$1 has sex leg
20:40.46JagannathLooks like prot will be decent after all =p
20:40.56Kirochi~sexleg Adys
20:40.57infobotAdys has sex leg
20:41.13KnofleProt is going to be awesome
20:41.22KnofleToo bad I'll probably be raiding as resto druid ;
20:41.41winkillerI'm not planning to switch mains, but who knows?
20:41.51JagannathOk now.
20:41.56JagannathNow I don't really mind leveling.
20:42.42JagannathOh whoa.
20:42.53JagannathImp Shield Bash is actually kind of useful now.
20:43.07KnofleImproved revenge aswell
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20:43.41Kirochi~bona bona
20:43.42infobotpétit !
20:43.47Kirochi~BANDA BANDA
20:43.48infobotBRUTIS !
20:43.52JagannathOh wow, didn't even notice that.
20:44.02KnofleOne thing is certain though. You'll have lots more talents that are viable
20:44.04JagannathGod damn, I just might do a noob looking spec and go full prot rofl.
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20:44.22KnofleYou might not get to imp. thunder clap
20:44.39KnofleI guess you will, but :P
20:46.15JagannathIntervene is like a Imp Sprint for rogues with Safeguard lol.
20:46.15KnofleWell, I don't know. :P
20:46.20KnofleHehe, yes
20:46.39KnofleI might not go for safeguard, actually
20:46.44KnofleSeems good in 5mans
20:46.47JagannathProt is now a PvP spec.
20:47.42JagannathAre they going to wipe everyone's talent trees then?
20:47.52JagannathCause everything seems juggled/moved around etc.
20:47.58KnofleI would think so
20:48.07Adysisnt that the least of your problem tho?
20:48.17AdysI mean
20:48.32JagannathWow @ Imp Disarm
20:48.34KnofleSword and board is such a great talent
20:48.40KnofleToo bad you can't disarm most bosses ;)
20:48.47AdysI dunno people wonder if there will be achievements in 3.0
20:48.53Adysso on so on
20:49.07JagannathDo you get anything for those?
20:49.10Adysand theres people wondering if the talent trees will be wiped
20:49.17Adysor if they'll have to pay a few gold to respec
20:49.45JagannathWell, since I had to quit wow for like 8 months, got back like 2..3 weeks ago. My respec costs should be down again =p
20:49.47KnofleWell, with the incredible changes to the talent trees, they can't really just let the talent points stay, can they?
20:50.15Jagannathmust have to refund the points.
20:50.28JagannathAnd shield block is a 1 min cd....
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20:50.38tuttsSorry 'bout that.
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20:54.25JagannathShield Wall is actually still decent. 5 min cd for 60% dmg reduction. :o
20:55.03KnofleIt's a lot more viable imo. You don't have to be scared to blow the CD
20:55.06tuttsWasn't it 30%, not 60%?
20:55.13JagannathIt was 75%
20:55.15KnofleIt's 60, afaik
20:55.20JagannathBut a 30 min cd.
20:55.26JagannathOnly 5 mins for 60% is badass.
20:55.30tuttsNo no, I mean, they changed it to 30%?
20:55.36Hojimachongis this an upcoming change?
20:55.40JagannathChanged to 60%.
20:55.45JagannathIn Wotlk.
20:55.51tuttsIf they only put it down to 60% and still reduced the cooldown that much, it's almost too good to be true.
20:56.10Jagannath4 min cd with the imp shield wall talent maxed. =p
20:56.10tuttsIn wottlekay, everyone will be overpowered v_v
20:56.13JagannathEven better.
20:56.27JagannathMakes up for the stupid 1 min shield block cd I guess.
20:56.40Knofletutts, exept for shadow priests. ¨^
20:56.47tuttsAh right.
20:56.50tuttsShadow priests.
20:56.54tuttsThe butt monkeys of WoW.
20:56.54Hojimachong1 min SB cooldown? You're scaring me
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20:57.20Jagannath-20 secs with talent.
20:57.42tuttsIt makes sense, though.
20:57.47Hojimachongwithin the new tank mechanics?
20:58.07tuttsSince you can't be crushed anymore, shield block isn't that necessary.
20:58.30JagannathI think I might go with this spec.
20:59.11winkillerever tried tanking prince in greens?
20:59.14winkillerGL without SB
20:59.22KnofleGL downing illidan in wotlk ;)
20:59.34Knoflegiven you have to shield block shear
20:59.40JagannathOmg yea.
20:59.43JagannathThat'll suck lol.
20:59.48tuttsWhat's Shear do?
20:59.52JagannathOwns you.
20:59.59JagannathThey must be changing his cd on it then?
21:00.18KnofleIt gives you 50% hp, tutts ;)
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21:00.32KnofleAnd illidan hits for up to 9k
21:00.33tutts"Shear: 1.5 sec cast, 7 sec debuff reducing max health by 60%, cast on Illidans current target. Cannot miss but can be dodged, parried or blocked "
21:00.39Knofleoh, 60% then
21:01.12tuttsIf he hits for 9k, then that means you need ~20k health to survive it with that debuff up, right?
21:01.14KnofleSo if the MT gets shear, he'll have about 10-13k hp, depending on gear
21:01.46KnofleIf the MT gets shear, I would say based on experience it's a 50% chance for a wipe
21:02.15JagannathMaybe you really need the shield wall for it now lol.
21:02.20tuttsThat's in level 70 gear though.
21:02.28tuttsIn level 80 gear tanks should have a lot more health.
21:02.37g0urragg blizz, flying from silvermoon -> island of quel'danas -> ZA
21:02.39JagannathThat's true too.
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21:03.07tuttsSo instead of using Shield Block to counter Shear, tanks will simply outlast it.
21:03.23KnofleI would guess tanks will have 30k buffed in naxxramas, but I don't really know.
21:03.35tuttsKeep in mind that healers will be able to heal Illidan better.
21:03.36KnofleIf blizzard uses the same scaling as they did in TBC
21:03.48tuttsThey won't, though.
21:04.12KnofleFuck it. I got an e-mail, but it was a stupid newsletter.
21:04.32tuttsPart of the reason for the health increase for everyone was that TBC items were given about 1,5x the Stamina they would have had following the old formulas.
21:04.44KnofleI guess
21:05.13KnofleIs naxxramas equivalent with karazhan?
21:05.18tuttsI think so.
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21:05.52tuttsExcept wottlekay raids will have both 10- and 25-man modes, so I doubt there's anything that's really equivalent.
21:06.24KnofleThe shield from Nightbane has 33 stamina. The shield from Naxxramas has 75. Not really a valid measurement, but hey.
21:06.36JagannathOh baby.
21:06.41JagannathGimme teh stam.
21:06.52tuttsHeh, I have 13,4k health in my tank gear... :P
21:06.52JagannathWTB 50k unbuffed.
21:07.13JagannathIf right now...
21:07.20JagannathI had like 50k+ hp unbuffed.
21:07.23JagannathOh god.
21:08.07tuttsYou'd be a god.
21:08.32tuttsEvery time someone went to an instance, they would call on you to tank it.
21:08.41tuttsYou would never DPS again.
21:08.48tuttsYou'd be spammed down by noobs.
21:08.52tuttsHave fun with that :)
21:09.15KnofleComparing the stamina of Mantle of Abrahmis (Epic Karazhan tanking shoulders), to blue tanking shoulders from Stratholme, you'd go from 43 stamina to 78
21:09.25KnofleI would think you
21:09.35Knofleyou'd wind up with 30k hp in naxx
21:09.42KnofleBut I don't know for sure
21:09.49tuttsI'd guess 25-26k.
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21:10.25KnofleI guess you are more right
21:10.26tuttsThat's still about a 40% increase, if it's an average.
21:10.42Knoflesince 20k is what I based mine on, and it's t6 :P
21:10.47tuttsI'm not a tank though, you probably know this better than I do :)
21:10.49KnofleSo yeah, you're probably right
21:10.53KnofleI'm not a tank either ;)
21:11.12KnofleBut I do have a warrior and a druid. ^^
21:11.13tuttsExcept that one fella in Gruul's, of course.
21:11.17tuttsHence the 13,4k HP.
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21:12.49KnofleThe health increase won't be as big as from vanilla wow to tbc, that's for sure
21:12.59KnofleSince they only did that to prevent "gibs" in PvP ;)
21:13.08tuttsThat depends on how the gear scales.
21:13.19JagannathWell I always tank as is lol.
21:13.40tuttsWe won't get the huge health increase from the change in item budget, but we might get something similar just from Northrend gear being that much better than Outland gear.
21:13.57KnofleWell, yeah
21:14.07KnofleI want beta so bad, so I can actually test this shit. :P
21:14.31KnofleI have a hunter, warrior, druid and lock that are waiting to transfer to the beta server! :P
21:14.40JagannathI'm at 16.3k unbuffed atm. Only have a few BT/Hyjal pieces, rest is Badge/SSC/TK.
21:14.45tuttsSince raiding got more accessible in TBC, people generally have higher end gear now than they had right before TBC.
21:15.04JagannathI miss raiding =(
21:15.21JagannathDon't miss losing tank items to DPS though...lawl @ dkp is king.
21:15.26tuttsI have... a 70 mage and a 70 priest to copy if I get into the beta.
21:15.41KnofleI think I would level my druid though
21:15.52tutts...even DKP systems can have a need-before-greed clause.
21:16.00JagannathI KNWO
21:16.09JagannathPissed me off so much lol.
21:16.26tuttsDid you ever suggest the rules be changed? :P
21:16.30Jagannathsome common sense priority woulda been nice.
21:16.43tuttsBut you never left them?
21:16.47JagannathI always got the "Well it's their eanred DKP, theirs to spend"
21:16.48Kirochiroi heenok pute nègre
21:16.48KnofleWe used dkp in SSC/Eye/BT/MH, but we use loot council in sunwell
21:17.15tuttsWe use a simple system where everyone can roll on two items, after that they roll among the offspeccers.
21:17.21JagannathNah man, it was a guild I xfered over for. I didn't know any other guilds on the server etc. lol.
21:17.28tuttsThat's in Kara though, with only 10 people.
21:17.37JagannathBut then I had to quit wow, I come back and I'm no longer welcome lol.
21:17.48tuttsFind another guild?
21:17.49KnofleWe still use dkp, but this time we only use it as a guide for people to go by.
21:17.53JagannathAll that saved DKP wasted lol.
21:18.17tuttsCut your losses tbh.
21:18.22JagannathWell, there's no real guild on my server that is Hyjal/BT level, that I can get into.
21:18.33tuttsTransfer again? :P
21:18.43JagannathYea, I'm saving up $$ for it lol.
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21:19.40JagannathMy server's spread is like, Sunwell 4/5...5/6? I can't think atm. Then a gap from there to like 1/9 BT, then no one in SSC/TK lol. Then the good ole Kara guilds.
21:20.22tuttsI dunno quite what those numbers mean, number of bosses killed?
21:20.38tuttsGet into the Sunwell guild?
21:20.43tuttsOr is that the guild you left?
21:20.47Jagannath<bosses downed>/<total bosses>
21:20.56JagannathI'm not geared enough for Sunwell.
21:21.03JagannathI'd be that guy getting carried lol.
21:21.11tuttsYou're geared for BT/MH, right?
21:21.33JagannathI was one of the FR tanks for Illidan in my old guild =p
21:21.34tuttsAsk them if they'd be willing to assist you in getting to an acceptable level for teh pool.
21:21.38JagannathEven with my current gear.
21:22.18JagannathYea, WoW kinda sucks for me atm lol.
21:22.28JagannathYupp. =(
21:22.37JagannathOh yea.
21:22.43JagannathI only played to raid.
21:22.47tuttsWell, it's a game.
21:22.54tuttsWhich means, if you don't want to play it, don't.
21:23.03JagannathLol yea.
21:24.25tuttsAnyway, if you still have an urge to raid, contact them Sunwell folks and see if they're willing to help you out.
21:24.31g0urraborean tundra invaded by germans're supposed to kick someone at the end of that :P
21:24.55KirochiI'm no admin
21:24.59KirochiI tried to kick g0urra
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21:25.17g0urrawhat? who should get kicked?
21:25.18tuttsIf they won't, or you don't want their help for whatever reasons, you'll have to contact someone else who's not quite at your level and go with them until they are.
21:25.35CorganKirochi stop trolling
21:25.44winkillerg0urra: I feel for you :>
21:25.55g0urraI'm confused winkiller
21:25.58Corgang0urra my love
21:26.02KirochiCorgan shut it
21:26.03winkillerwhy that?
21:26.03Corganwhy so sexy g0urra
21:26.11g0urra<winkiller> g0urra: I feel for you :>
21:26.14tuttsKiro, this is how you do it.
21:26.20winkiller[23:24:18] (@g0urra) borean tundra invaded by germans
21:26.21Corganwhy so troll Kirochi
21:26.24tuttskicks kirochi down a huge pit. kirochi dies.
21:26.25g0urraah yes winkiller
21:26.30winkillerwhy do you think I play on an EU serber? :P
21:26.45g0urraI got invited to a halls of stone group earlier
21:26.53g0urrame and four other guys
21:27.00g0urraand they started talking german
21:27.02JagannathYea, I app'd to all 3 sunwell guilds on my server a few weeks ago, only to get my class schedule and have it conflict with their raid times lol.
21:27.12tuttsAcha bacha läderhosen!
21:27.13g0urraand suddenly one asks me "GER Loladin?"
21:27.17g0urraand I said "No"
21:27.20g0urraand they kept talking
21:27.27JagannathSo, back to looking for a new server lol.
21:27.28g0urraso I was like
21:27.28winkillerpoor you :(
21:27.35g0urra"yeah.. bye"
21:27.37g0urraand lef
21:27.46tuttsAww :(
21:27.58tuttsShould've followed them around and done "heil" emotes to all the bosses
21:28.03winkillerforeign languages > 3 lines in 5min should be reportable
21:28.15winkillerdamn dutch and swedes on this server also :P
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21:28.25g0urraok that's fucking stupid
21:28.27winkillernever see any germans
21:28.31g0urraI flew from borean tundra
21:28.32g0urrato storm peaks
21:28.32winkillerthank god
21:28.37g0urraand went through fucking icecrown -.-
21:28.44g0urrawhich is No Man's Land -.-
21:28.55g0urraGG blizz GG
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21:29.39tuttsBut if Icecrown is No Man's Land... does that make Arthas a woman?
21:30.04pcjyour moms a woman
21:30.11tuttsSo that's what they meant by "Lick King"...
21:30.25tuttsThat's what SHE said.
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21:31.04winkillerI'm so tempted to spec arms right now
21:31.16tuttsThen do it?
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21:31.27winkillerdunno, what if we need a tank soon?
21:31.36JagannathRespec again =p
21:31.47tuttsThen spec back if you're really that desperate to join?
21:31.50winkillerit costs MONEY
21:32.01winkillerI'm saving up for Dalaran teleport rings :P
21:32.15tuttsI'm not gonna get one of those rings.
21:32.21tutts[Teleport: Dalaran] ftw.
21:32.30amro|afkKirochi: wtb moar jpstormreaver
21:32.45Kirochiyou've read the entire blog through?
21:32.52tuttsI'm a bit annoyed at how Mages get class trainers in Dalaran though.
21:32.58amro|afknot completely
21:33.07amro|afkwell i skipped a lot
21:33.24tuttsLorewise I understand it, but gameplay wise they're removing the inconvenience of going back to old lands to train from the only class that wasn't really inconvenienced by it.
21:34.08g0urraI whore myself out as holy pally
21:34.11g0urrain storm peaks general
21:34.14g0urraand nobody want a pocket healer
21:34.17g0urrawhat a joke
21:34.23tuttsOh bugger, we don't have a spoilers rule enforced here, do we?
21:34.26Fisker-i whore you g0urra
21:34.30Fisker-when do you get evocation btw?
21:34.31Kirochiamro|afk you've got the whoal blog
21:34.32g0urraOH U FISKER-
21:34.34Fisker-71 or 70?
21:34.36Kirochijust for you
21:34.41Kirochiand when you're done with the articles
21:34.44Kirochiread the comments
21:34.47Kirochithey're even funnier
21:34.51Fisker-can't reach level 9071
21:35.09Fisker-srsly though
21:35.15amro|afkKirochi: ...but it the comments hurt!
21:35.16Fisker-i'm killing you
21:35.26Fisker-it is level 71
21:35.36Fisker-was hoping i could get it for raiding pre-wotlk >:E
21:35.53amro|afk"Avant j'allais sur bashfr, puis j'allais sur maintenant je vais sur ce blog...quand on a un petit coup de déprime, on lit 3 lignes de n'importe quel article (pardon...on *essaye*), et tout de suite ça va beaucoup mieux !"
21:36.25tuttsOoh, drunkspeak.
21:36.30tuttsI don't speak it :3
21:36.45KirochiI'm kinda proud of it
21:36.56Kirochiwell there's always more jpstormreaver to read
21:37.06Kirochiwhen you're done with both articles and comments
21:37.11Kirochithere's a second blog
21:37.51tutts...MY EYES!
21:38.06tutts*gouges out with rusty spoon*
21:38.58amro|afkheathen! jpstormreaver justifies skyblog's existence
21:39.33tuttsHe's not using that design to do it!
21:40.53tuttsOoh, the first thing I'm gonna do come 3.0 is get my improved water elemental.
21:40.57tuttsIt's just that good.
21:41.20amro|afkKirochi: you should make a best of
21:41.36KirochiI'm considering it
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21:47.39pcjstop it kirkburn
21:48.18tuttsStop what?
21:48.43Kirochihey stop
21:49.33tuttsNuh, nununuh, nunuh nunuh!
21:49.35g0urraSTOP RIGHT NOW
21:49.44g0urraTHANK YOU VERY MUCH
21:50.00Kirochig0urra you're so full of Sean Banan
21:50.32JagannathWow a lot of stuff is coming bout in the next patch.
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21:53.27tuttsRight, it's time I moved my body onto a soft surface in order to go into a deep meditative state to refresh my body and mind, which will last approximately 8 hours.
21:53.40tuttsGood night everybody :)
21:54.13JagannathNight lol.
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21:58.46pcjstop it kirkburn
21:59.19Sazewhat is going on with the olympc?
21:59.29pcjthey've been over since sunday
21:59.31pcjchina won
21:59.43Sazei mean did you send out any mail?
21:59.52pcji send out mail like every day
22:00.24Sazethe wiki one
22:00.43pcjwiki mail?
22:00.53Sazewiki winner?
22:00.54Kirochislowwiki is slow
22:00.59infobotDo I ask you the length of yours?
22:01.17DottedThe job queue length is currently 26418
22:02.21g0urrathe mails will be sent when the emails will be sent
22:02.34g0urras/e m/e em/
22:03.14winkillerhaha, I look so awesome in my lvl60 outfit
22:03.32pcjur mom looked so awesome in her outfit
22:03.43winkillerbut I killed wrists and back, gonna have to rebiy that :(
22:03.46winkiller3k honor..
22:07.03Kirochiwatch this
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22:07.29Kirochi~bona bona
22:07.30infobotpétit !
22:07.30Kirochi~BANDA BANDA
22:07.31infobotBRUTIS !
22:10.37amro|afkyeah I saw earlier :)
22:12.38Saze~where is kirkburn?
22:12.38infobotAuthor of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management.
22:12.48Saze~who kirkburn
22:12.49infobotAuthor of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management.
22:12.56amro|afk~seen Kirkburn
22:13.01infobotkirkburn is currently on #wowhead (14m 25s) #wowuidev (14m 25s) #wowace (14m 25s) #wowwiki (14m 25s), last said: '>_>'.
22:13.01Sazeoh thanks
22:13.11SazeWhere is he?
22:13.32amro|afkpoints to Kirkburn
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22:14.25amro|afkKirkburn: net probs?
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22:18.24Kirochihello Ragestorm
22:19.05KirochiI got some infor for you
22:19.43Kirochia french CM got fired
22:20.01Kirochitwo german CR left too
22:20.09g0urralmao what
22:20.11Kirochia whole chunk of blizzard europe is leaving
22:20.15RagestormWhat does this have to do with me?
22:20.24Kirochiabsolutely nothing
22:20.26g0urrawhy so insider Kirochi ?
22:20.37Kirochig0urra cause I humped a GM
22:20.40RagestormKirochi knows Twincruiser
22:20.44amro|afkhe works for DST
22:20.53Ragestormor some other connection he will dramatically reveal
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22:21.15KirochiI've been knowing community representatives way before I knew Koiter actually
22:21.29Ragestorm"Kirochi: I got some infor for you"
22:21.40RagestormThis implies the information has something to do with me
22:21.47RagestormWhy are they leaving anyway?
22:22.02Gnarfozwho cares, they'll hire others in their place :p
22:22.23RagestormGnarfoz: lookup the Great Schism
22:22.34Gnarfozuhm no thanks
22:22.45RagestormSplits and the like usually aren't resolved quickly.
22:22.47Kirochino, it just implies that I wanted to tell you
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22:24.03RagestormWell, given that I live in New York, what Blizzard Europe does doesn't really affect me. Interesting situation, and interesting to see if anything is going to happen next
22:24.09amro|afkKirochi: who got fired? the asshat that was pissing everyone off?
22:25.08Kirochibecause of the asshat
22:25.11Kirochiold news, I know
22:25.18Kirochibut now I can reveal the details
22:26.04Kirochithe fucking hag with sand in her vagina managed to throw everybody from her department off
22:26.08Kirochiso now she's alone
22:27.49amro|afknot the kind of details we wanted to hear kirochi
22:28.22Kirochimany guys from blizzard eu are departing or have already left
22:28.38Kirochiand it's slowly collapsing
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22:29.01Kirochithis could well be the end of Blizzard Europe, in something like a few months or so
22:29.14Kirochino, more like a year
22:29.40g0urraok seriously
22:29.42g0urrait's bad as it is
22:30.00amro|afkit's blizzarmageddon!
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22:30.40KirochiI'm afraid there might be spies within our walls
22:32.05amro|afkcare to elaborate, Kirochi?
22:32.22amro|afkwtb more Kirs for tab completion
22:32.55Kirochithere were 4 of us some day
22:34.33KirochiAs nearly nobody truly knows who's on this channel
22:35.47amroI suspect the DRS has agents in here
22:35.52KaNNisBlizzard are stalking us
22:36.14amrospeaking of blizz, where's pixel?
22:36.55amropokes Kirochi
22:37.41KirochiPixel ?
22:37.45Kirochiil est de blibli ?
22:37.47Adyshes moving atm
22:39.34amrosounds suspicious
22:39.45amroDST is all over it!
22:39.50amroand no im not paranoid!!!11
22:40.58KirochiIt's because I'm paranoid that everyone's not spying on me.
22:42.14amroin all honesty, I know a CIA officer who has the worst cover in history
22:43.06amrohe's the director of
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22:43.11pcjstop it kirkburn
22:43.48amropcj: /mode #wowwiki +b Kirkburn
22:45.58amroKirochi: rofl @ last comment on jpstormreaver
22:46.35Kirochiwhich one
22:46.52amro" envoie moi un mail pour qu'on s'eclate un jour : belle metisse 95C, 53 kg 1m70 je vais habiter à nimes"
22:47.19Kirochiça roxx
22:47.30Kirochisuffit que je mette une photo de moi
22:48.00Kirochinext time I'll just scan my pubes and I'll find the perfect wife on my blog
22:48.49amrooui, sauf si ca attire un senegalais de 2m 100kg
22:48.52Kirochifor a good time call beautyfulflower
22:49.09Kirochiboah je prends quand même, j'ai des copines à qui ça plairait
22:49.12Kirochila poutre de Bamako
22:51.02amroil y a plein de maliens (sp?) ici
22:52.09Kirochiah ?
22:52.16Kirochides maliens
22:52.21Kirochiclandestins je suppose
22:52.25amroharragas en plus
22:52.49amroc'est drole, les algeriens quitte l'algerie le plus vite possible mais il y a des gens qui viennent ici illegalement
22:53.18Kirochibha oué
22:53.24Kirochij'sais pas si t'as vu au maroc
22:53.33Kirochideux espagnols qui ont essayé de rentrer illégalement
22:53.42amrooh mais jme soviens
22:54.00amroil y a peine un mois, il y a un amricain qui est entre illegalement en algerie!
22:54.15Kirochiun terroriste fondamentaliste
22:54.30amronon, un converti a l'islam
22:54.42Kirochiah k
22:54.54Corganwhy so troll Kirochi
22:54.59amroles maliens dmandent l'argent souvent a la fin des prieres de vendredi... ils pensent vraiment que les algeriens sont pieux
22:55.09Kirochitout se perd
22:55.14Kirochis't'un des piliers de l'islam
22:56.53amrolol g0urra
22:58.17amro~lart Corgan
22:58.17infobotputs on a hockey mask and jumps out at Corgan
22:59.15Corganoh god troll on troll
23:00.18g0urra"I forgot about this and it is way behind...because I'm lazy I'll simply point you to where the rest of the stories are."
23:00.38g0urragood, I hope she won't mind me deleting it all then
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23:01.09g0urraKIRKBURN STOP IT
23:05.21amrosome people have too much free time
23:07.19Thraeamro: And then they make addons.
23:07.56amrothat's good. but sometimes they write troll lesbian erotic fanfic
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23:10.05Saze~seen kirkburn
23:10.06infobotkirkburn is currently on #wowhead (9m 2s) #wowuidev (9m 2s) #wowace (9m 2s) #wowwiki (9m 2s), last said: '>_>'.
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23:15.28g0urraok wtf
23:15.31g0urrathis is gay
23:15.37g0urrasome guy abandoned the fighter jet
23:15.40g0urrawhile I"m bugged
23:15.43g0urraunderneath it
23:15.48g0urraso I'm floating underground
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23:34.39Kirkburnwait...that worked?
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23:37.06g0urraso kirkburn gets back
23:37.09g0urraand he leaves
23:37.23g0urraoh wait.
23:37.27g0urraslaps himself
23:40.28pcjkirkburn if you're counting entries don't mess up
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23:47.41KirkburnUh ... why not to leave Azureus running when you're asleep
23:48.12g0urraYou've been sleeping until now?
23:49.44KirkburnSorry, I just plain didn't hear the pings
23:53.08BibiKirkburn : are you using azureus to download open source content ? :(
23:59.38pcjhe's obviously using it to download wow patches

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