IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080729

00:06.12Kirkburn|afkRegarding barbershop - "You should be able to locate a Barbershop in Stormwind, Undercity, and Dalaran, however, they are not currently functional in this build. "
00:06.41Kirkburn|afkApparently Kalimdor hasn't advanced that far yet
00:07.12Kirkburn|afkAh, actually, they're in every city :P
00:09.00Kirkburn|afkI love the beta forums - apparently Tigole like the idea of personal tabards as a gold sink :)
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00:40.18Pinkhair3dthe machinima contest voiting has begun!
00:41.57MagathorI hate Rochester.
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00:46.36FullDolphinXI do not think we have a policy on articles in Zone/Subzone article names.
00:54.05pcj~ww WW:NOA
00:55.00FullDolphinXThank you.
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01:41.02MagathorSome guy thinks Acherus is the old version of Naxx.
01:41.11MagathorI was laughing so hard before I proved him wrong.
01:41.41MagathorHe kept insisting it - and people believed him.
01:41.50Magathor"Acherus is the DK start zone, idiot."
01:50.11pcji had some people on my main realm who thought the DK stuff was set in the past
01:50.36pcji had to tell them about tirion fordring and everything
01:51.02foxlitActually, a moderate time delay between that and the beginning of Wrath makes sense.
01:51.20pcjno, they meant past as in pre-WoW
01:51.26pcjwhich wouldn't make sense
01:51.27foxlitToo far back, then :)
01:51.45Kirkburn|afkIt has to be after the draenei arrived
01:52.16pcjafter most of tbc tbh
01:52.30foxlitbefore most of tbc would be better
01:52.43foxlitSince baby death knights still march bravely on to the realms beyond the dark portal...
01:52.51Kirkburn|afkConcurrent with TBC then :P
01:53.13foxlitWhere, for no apparent reason, everyone is as happy to see them as the rest of the BC crowd
01:53.15Kirkburn|afkTBC proper starts 3 months after the draenei arrived
01:53.30foxlitIt's "Oh, hai, death knight. Would you like some food?"
01:53.38pcjwe'll probably find out in the manual or the wotlk intro cinematic
01:53.42Kirkburn|afk(though the draenei starting area is argueably set in those three months)
01:54.53Kirkburn|afkGood old Warcraft timelines, possibly the least precise timelines ever made
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01:57.26Magathor"Ok, we're in the futu-- no, in the pas- nope, in the futu-- no, we're in current ti- nope, we're in the past. i think."
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01:58.26foxlitperhaps you're in a warp bubble, and slightly out of phase?
02:00.56MagathorMaybe every WoW character just got too into fighting.. and just kind of forgot what time it was!
02:03.13Magathorso, for araj the Summoner - wouldn't being Headmaster of the Scholomance School of Necromancy be a far bigger honor than being the former Headmaster and now just having Andorhal as his own?
02:04.26Kirkburn|afkHeh at this beta server notification: [SERVER] Restart in 15:00 .... a few seconds later [SERVER] Shutdown in 0:30.
02:05.06MagathorHow do I do the quest tooltips when you hover over them?
02:05.12kd3yay for hardcoded "15:00" messages into the shutdown script
02:05.15MagathorThere isn't one for some of the Araj chain. D:
02:07.06pcjuse {{quest}} or {{questlong}}
02:14.40Kirkburn|afkThis song has the lyrics "and the toilet smells of desperation"...
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02:24.17pcj# Every sperm is sacred
02:28.29pcj"Customs officials say he unsuccessfully tried to persuade a bank vice president to dispatch an armored truck to the Mexican border to pick up millions of dollars. "
02:28.36pcjhmm, wonder why he was unsuccessful
02:29.22Kirkburn|afkpcj, can you reach okay?
02:29.40Kirkburn|afkI've been having trouble all day
02:29.54Kirkburn|afkJust sits on loading >_<
02:29.54pcjuse a proxy
02:34.18Kirkburn|afkOldest BBC News article - :P
02:34.36Kirkburn|afkThat banner always makes me think UUSR
02:36.04pcjthey don't automatically update all the navigation?
02:36.08pcjthat's kind of...dumb
02:36.36Kirkburn|afkFor the earlier stuff it's generally tied to that era's website design
02:36.53Kirkburn|afkThis is 1997, remember
02:37.17Kirkburn|afkDunno if they're working through the old stuff to get it into the new design - they should
02:37.45pcjbut you'd think when they implement a new design they'd go back and retroactively apply it
02:37.56pcjand then it's incremental instead of going all the way back to 1997
02:38.24pcjbut that's why most designers prefer to separate the design from the content as much as possible
02:38.33Kirkburn|afkI'm sure they do ... now :P
02:38.54Kirkburn|afkAlso, that dude in the picture needs to get rid of his monobrow :P
02:39.06pcjthis is 1997, remember
02:39.42Kirkburn|afkThat was very good :)
02:40.17pcjthat's what she said, etc.
02:40.31Kirkburn|afkin your mom pants, etc.
03:16.04RagestormRolandius is turning into a rather good contributor, but he seems to lack common sense.
03:16.42Kirkburn|afkDunno where he got the bolding all article name mentions from
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03:22.20RagestormI can't even process that one.
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03:22.34pcjbah link it properly
03:23.17KirkburnRagestorm, wait, are you saying Sargeras's is correct, whereas Cenarius' was not?
03:23.43KirkburnNot quite :P
03:24.04RagestormDo enlighten me.
03:24.05KirkburnActually, that makes me want to look up the rule
03:24.15KirkburnMaybe it /is/ different if the s is part of the word
03:24.45RagestormI was told emphatically that wasn't the case, that the only exception was "its"
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03:26.11KirkburnWhat the hell? I'm not even using the net apart from this
03:26.13KirkburnSorry, so, both ways are allowed
03:26.37kd3wonders what came over him to name it that
03:27.01KirkburnDie a lot, did you?
03:27.13kd3was not very fond of those towers when questing in skorn...
03:30.16RagestormOnly some sources allow both ways... Anyway, tell him it absolutely doesn't matter, I have a feeling he's going to get another one of his obsessions...
03:30.30KirkburnSargeras ... Sargeras' hat .... Sargeras cloned himself, so now: Sargeras's hat.
03:30.42RagestormOr not.
03:30.52KirkburnIf you start with Sargeras's hat, then I don't know where you do for multiple Sargeras' :P
03:30.59Kirkburn*where you go
03:31.24Ragestorm"-es" for plural
03:31.37Ragestorm^ Or go with the Latin
03:31.51RagestormSargeroi, for the Greek
03:32.12KirkburnThe Sargerii's hat. Cop out :P
03:32.12RagestormSargerii's hats
03:33.30RagestormI told you to tell him it didn't matter, now he's going to go around removing Ss
03:34.44KirkburnMy internet is just /awful/ today
03:34.57RagestormYou have to either give him orders or tell him not to bother.
03:35.44KirkburnYeah, but here's the thing, I've grown up with Sargeras' being the correct form :P
03:35.50RagestormHe has a habit of interpreting suggestions that even a Myrmidon would find odd.
03:35.56KirkburnDidn't even know there was another way :)
03:36.30RagestormThat's the fault of your Literature Master.
03:36.55KirkburnY'know what I think I need to start from the beginning
03:37.45RagestormErr... please tell me this isn't going to be like that movie where the man gets stuck in the kids body and had to go back to high school
03:38.13KirkburnI only know Big, so I guess it was called ... Small? :P
03:38.52KirkburnTom Hanks!
03:39.19RagestormI wouldn't know, I find all those movies annoying. If you're going to have magic or body-switching machines, you might as well go all out.
03:39.40KirkburnOkay, I'm swayed - Sargeras's hat ... the chairs' seats.
03:40.08KirkburnPossibly better example of the second: the Howards' house
03:44.46Ragestormperfect marks :)
03:52.41KirkburnHoly crap, next patch is 240MB
03:53.47kd3fires up the client
03:53.58KirkburnGot patch note changes too
03:54.01KirkburnVery very very short
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04:11.15Kirkburnkd3, mounts are apparently having problems
04:11.29KirkburnSo be careful if you decide to try it, you may lose both the mount and spell >_<
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04:16.39KirkburnAh, looks like it affects just "old" mounts
04:16.48KirkburnBuy a new one and it's happy >_<
04:20.56kd3good thing I've got something like 30k gold since I've copied my main over a few times... >.>
04:23.03KirkburnOh yeah, I need to do that :P
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04:27.55pcji have something like 100k gold...
04:28.22RagestormG'night all. Don't go mad.
04:28.35RagestormWell, maddER.
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04:41.23Kirkburnooh, kd3: "Theres an epic mount vendor in the new Ebon Hold, allowing the purchase of Winged Steed of the Ebon Blade (apparantly a skeletal gryphon)"
04:43.51pcjis it available to non-DKs
04:44.28KirkburnI don't know
04:44.55Kirkburnbarber shop is in
04:45.20kd3kirk; you playing a mana user?
04:45.47kd3meh. burn some mana... what's your regen like?
04:46.01KirkburnI have no idea, for I am still downloading the patch :P
04:46.29Kirkburnooooh, I like
04:47.10KirkburnMore appearance choices at login, I think
04:47.55kd330m to go... yay for someone posting a codeen mirror
04:48.17KirkburnWell, good for /you/ anyway
04:48.34KirkburnI've tried the EU torrent ... it's not up
04:48.57KirkburnI only have direct download
04:50.31KirkburnWhite glowing eyes have been added to dks I think
04:50.55Kirkburn(This is me going through the forums)
04:52.01KirkburnYup, mounts def bugged :P
04:52.27KirkburnNew dk loading screen
04:53.05kd3wills his connection to magically gain more speed
04:53.29Kirkburnzomg, druids will be able to get a polar bear form :P
04:53.36Krapsthis post is much more interesting
04:53.56Krapsi call bullshit though
04:58.02Krapsi also know how to kill conversation
04:58.08Kirkburnyou do
05:00.19Krapsi'm waiting for the wow repair thing to finish. got a fatal error while loading wsg :/
05:02.44kd312m to go
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05:02.52KirkburnLake Wintergrasp!
05:03.17KirkburnSands of Ulduran (battleground)!
05:03.32BibiHIGHLIGHT !
05:03.38BibiI mean
05:03.40BibiHi Kirkburn
05:03.41Bibihow are you ?
05:03.52KirkburnAll the happier for seeing you :P
05:04.01kd3taps his foot waiting so he can put non-tagged images up on the wiki
05:04.03Pinkhair3dhi hi
05:04.03KirkburnI want hunter changes plx
05:04.18bleeterwants Kirkburn's boobies, plzkthx
05:04.41Bibithere arent many of them Kirkburn
05:04.47Bibihowever !
05:04.55Bibime have to check something
05:05.00Bibioh I guess that's not new
05:05.14Bibiaspects not using mana anymore
05:05.21KirkburnAh yeah, not new
05:05.21Bibibut I'm not even sure it's a WotLK change
05:05.29kd310m... c'mon faster!
05:06.01KirkburnWell, mounts are buggered atm on this build so, uh, it's gonna be an interesting day or so
05:06.16BibiI think you've got to buy a new one
05:06.29Bibi(-got ?)
05:06.29KirkburnI wouldn't be surprised if they mail everyone a mount :)
05:06.35Bibi(oh, who cares, it's 07:00 AM and I didn't sleep)
05:06.45KirkburnIt was correct
05:07.13KirkburnYou can only say "you have to buy a new one", not "you've to buy...". English ftw.
05:07.47KirkburnNot really sure why, probably an emphasis thing
05:08.19KirkburnBut there you go, we have no language authority, thus there are no true rules.
05:08.54KirkburnIt is weird that I wear my "quest" baseball cap around the house?
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05:21.07pcjyou guys had to download an update?
05:22.13pcjnvm, my client's just being weird
05:22.52pcjyay for not realizing it needs to update
05:27.29Pinkhair3dBLIZZ IS FIXING MAGES!
05:27.49Pinkhair3dWand spec... ERADICATED!
05:28.28kd3about damn time
05:28.46Pinkhair3dit only took how many years...
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05:56.55Kirkburn|afkpcj, run the launcher
05:57.03Kirkburn|afkDon't run it directly
05:58.34*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> #wowwiki: Kickin' Nass and Takin' Manes - Chan rules: | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | WotLK portal is up - | Please avoid major spoilers on IRC | In the beta? Add yourself -
05:58.50Kirkburn|afkEnough of the stupid topics, Adys.
06:07.26Kirkburn|afkAh, regarding the mount bug
06:07.34Kirkburn|afkThey plan to hotfix it
06:07.40Kirkburn|afkIf they can't it'll be fixed in next build
06:08.02Kirkburn|afkMeanwhile, you can purchase a new mount instead
06:16.16Kirkburn|afkoooooh, glowy gnome eyes
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06:20.47SlixWhat mount bug?
06:22.42Kirkburn|afkkd3, found an exit yet?
06:22.50Kirkburn|afkSlix, you can't learn mounts properly
06:22.52kd3no. ported to darn
06:23.04kd3gah, gonna need to come up with a new abbreviation for darn
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06:24.04Kirkburn|afkSomeone needs to start a new dk, see what happens
06:24.16kd3it's broken on our server
06:24.30Kirkburn|afkStarting them?
06:24.36kd3no dks can log in atm
06:24.42kd3instance server took a dive
06:24.47Kirkburn|afkAh, yeah, I'm in
06:25.04kd3and northrend just crashed, yay
06:25.10Kirkburn|afkAt least there's a fp
06:25.16Kirkburn|afkEr, you did notice the fp, right?
06:29.02Kirkburn|afkHeh, if you go into the "arena" type bit on the non-fp level, you still get ported
06:30.17SlixIts funny how WoW bases some of their numbers on 1337
06:30.18Kirkburn|afkI think it's fair to say new Archerus needs more tweaks :P
06:34.39Kirkburn|afkThar be no server to be logging into
06:35.01Kirkburn|afkdecides it's "not a WotLK day" and goes and does some more all-white puzzle
06:41.13Kirkburn|afkkd3, there's a level limit to Dalaran? :O
06:41.54kd3looks like it's going to be 74
06:43.09kd3which is disconcerting to no end
06:51.15fricAdys: what does fric mean in french? :P you hilighted me yesterday when saying something :>
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07:14.06Eraclitoyawn morning
07:15.02Eraclito <- zomg too cool!!11oneleven
07:15.11Eraclito(but hey it's useful)
07:16.02Eraclitoow a skeletal gryphon for dks
07:16.02Kirkburn|afkNotice the background of the blank pet icons
07:16.17Eraclitoahaha i didn't notice
07:16.24Kirkburn|afkRabbits ftw! :)
07:16.44Eraclitothe only problem it's about how many mount i will buy
07:16.56Eraclitoi'll be soooo poor
07:16.59Kirkburn|afkMounts are rather messed up atm though, you can't learn ones you've already bought
07:17.25Eraclitotwo ways... learn-on-use or fix before live
07:19.11Eraclitothe new patch is comin in how many hours?
07:19.48Kirkburn|afkIt's already come?
07:20.09Kirkburn|afkPatch and servers went up a few hours ago
07:20.23Kirkburn|afkMounts are either going to be hotfixed, or next build
07:20.45Eraclitoit does have sense
07:34.22SlixShould i take Herbalism+Skinning or Herbalism+Mining?
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07:36.28SlixFrom my own experience, I've seen that mine nodes are not plentiful..
07:36.39SlixAm i wrong?
07:37.31SlixEhh, ill do mining and herbalism
07:38.47SlixI dunno if it would be better to skin or mine..
07:40.13Slixmine+herb has the disadvantage of needing to switch between track herbs and track mine
07:40.18Slixbut thats not a hugeish problem..
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07:42.28g0urrapcj people seem to like you
07:44.29SlixI should choose...
07:45.20SlixI need herb for sure.. but mining or skinning..
07:47.56Slixmining herb
07:47.58SlixThanks guys..
07:47.59SlixI think..
07:55.50SlixSo.. no flying mounts in Northrend?
07:56.05SlixIs that true?
07:59.00g0urraRight now there's no mounts at all
07:59.15g0urraPeople can't use other mounts than the summoned ones (paladin & warlock)
07:59.21g0urraHopefully a hotfix will fix that
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08:01.43Eraclitoeven if you buy a new one?
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08:02.36g0urraThe bug is only with existing items
08:12.49Kirkburn|afkRegarding 1.13, should be good to go when 1.13 final is out
08:20.20Eraclitoarcane mages with instant invisibility, cool
08:21.14Pinkhair3dI thought it was still 1 second?
08:21.32g0urraPaladins with instant holy wrath, yesplx
08:22.01Eraclito[10:21:14] <Pinkhair3d> I thought it was still 1 second? <- it's the third point in prismatic cloak in the new build
08:23.02fricg0urra: lol, did they mess up mounting in northrend? :P
08:23.20foxlitWell, there goes the death knight imbaness
08:23.22g0urraYes, you have to buy a new mount
08:23.32g0urraFor now, at least.. I expect them to fix it soon
08:23.39foxlitD&D just went from 129+AP to 49+AP :)
08:23.44Kirkburn|afkWell, possibly they might sleep a bit...
08:24.44g0urraThey increased the duration of seals to 2 minutes too :D
08:24.54Eraclitotoo many talents, so few points
08:25.25Kirkburn|afkSomeone got the title "Elder" apparently
08:25.50g0urraProbably those who were at the WWI
08:25.58g0urralogs his priest to check
08:26.33Kirkburn|afkLol, apparently all physical damage is working on the lines that mobs have zero armor
08:27.02g0urraHrmpf, WoW crashed when I logged with my priest
08:27.15Kirkburn|afkYou switched chars?
08:27.31Kirkburn|afkThat bug may have just been reported
08:28.03g0urraWhat bug? The "logging-out-from-one-char-and-logging-another" one?
08:28.05Kirkburn|afkTrying to switch chars results in a crash
08:28.30Kirkburn|afkYou have to exit
08:28.37g0urraalso new icons for Judgements
08:29.37Kirkburn|afkSo, I'm thinking this patch could have done with more QA. However, it's also the first beta patch, so I'm sure it was similar in alpha - we just didn't hear about it.
08:29.43g0urrahaha, one-shotting murlocs = win.
08:30.03g0urraokay, three-shotting
08:30.21g0urra3 levels between
08:30.25g0urraI'm 72
08:30.44Kirkburn|afkI assume result of the physical damage change?
08:32.14Kirkburn|afksighs at people posting bugs int he general forum and saying "I could not find a suitable place to put it elsewhere"
08:32.18g0urraah, I see. when I use judgement of justice both the damage from Judgement of Justice and Judgement of Corruption procs
08:32.28Kirkburn|afkYa obviously didn't look very hard, did you, random forum poster.
08:32.36g0urraWhich gives me 2x 2664 crits
08:34.16foxlittuned down the bloodworms damage, too
08:38.23foxlitAnd tuned up single target
08:43.20g0urrarofl "Demoralizign Mmmmrrrrgggllll"
08:49.38pb_ee1 xD
08:50.35Eraclitoaoe :>
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08:51.18Kirochiadys you on?
08:52.05Kirochianyone online?
08:52.21foxlit(no, not at all, never)
08:53.13Kirochi[[Raise some Hell]]
08:53.28Kirochishit, infobot you're a real pain
08:54.25KirochiSomeone got a good idea of how to make the Diablo I've inserted look better?
08:54.48friclol, i love it
08:55.50foxlitshove it into a third column
09:05.57Eraclito <- very reasonable price
09:06.42Kirochiit warps you to Dalaran
09:06.45Kirochino wonder why
09:12.09foxlitI doubt people would pay that much for a hearthstone :)
09:12.29foxlitRing looks good, though
09:13.07Eraclitoit could be like a seer signet for lv80
09:18.31KirochiWhat's the difference between a player and a gamer?
09:19.58Kirkburn|afkGood morning, Kirochi the money waster :P
09:20.11Eraclito[11:18:30] <+Kirochi> What's the difference between a player and a gamer? <- uhm... dunno. in italian we have a unique word, and a unique verb, for both
09:20.35Kirochiah you received it
09:20.59KirochiI was bored during english lessons
09:22.34Kirochiwho could blame me Kirkburn|afk?
09:34.10Kirkburn|afkI can
09:41.42Kirkburn|afkYes, that's /why/
09:42.03winkillerKirochi: yeah, albeit slang, we also have a word for both in German
09:42.28winkillerbut then again, the word for "player" also means "guy, who is addicted to casino gaming"
09:42.58KirochiEraclito che parola c'è per dirlo?
09:43.08Kirochiah, winkiller, gmabler then
09:43.21Kirochigambler f****
09:43.44winkillerooh, Kirochi parla l'Italiano? :P
09:44.02Kirkburn|afkSo Italiano
09:44.07KirochiSi, e Kirkburn dovreva parlarlo anche
09:44.55Kirkburn|afk*piango*  (I probably conjugated that wrong?)
09:45.18Eraclitooh no, it's right =P è giusto
09:45.31Eraclitoio piango, tu piangi, egli piange
09:46.23Eraclitoeven italians say wrong verbal forms, in congiuntivo
09:46.38Kirochiquesto era un'azione, e si adesso si dice *piange*
09:47.03Eraclitodidn't think it was an action
09:47.07Kirkburn|afkEnough Italian for me for one day
09:47.10Kirochijust like
09:47.30Eraclitoyep in third person it's piange
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10:18.22Adys[11:51:18] <+Kirochi> adys you on?
10:19.44Adysbzzts amro
10:21.20KirochiFRENCH AKTIV8ION
10:21.39KirochiBon, on est chauds là
10:29.09pb_ee1A part faire une sauterie
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10:29.50Kirochiis an agitprop
10:31.14Fisker-hai foxlit
10:34.32Kirochifoxlit bleargh
10:35.56foxlitrunes are no longer returned if attacks miss?
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10:45.30amroanother ugly mechanic
10:45.44amrocombat flag is the worst thing in wow
10:47.08Pinkhair3dThat's a bit harsh
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11:00.49foxlitThe new D&D: now with 97% more wipe potential
11:01.35foxlit(and four times less damage)
11:04.25Pinkhair3dThe new D&D: Now with 97% less roleplay potential (and required miniatureBUYTHEMINIATURESTHEY'RECOLLECTABLE)
11:05.49Niatgnah.... i need to fix my hilights...
11:09.29amroor /nick miniature
11:13.24foxlit<Knights of the Ebon Blade>
11:13.28foxliteat that, lore.
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11:48.10friccan anyone download the classes dev panel video from WWI for me? :P
11:48.24fricthe torrent downloader won't work at work (lolz)
11:49.15fricor .dmg for mac
12:02.29Adyswhats the new shadow quality command?
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12:04.38Adysit doesnt work
12:04.46Pinkhair3d<Pinkhair> to be honest, the ridiculous rumors are largely less ridiculous than the truth
12:04.47Pinkhair3d<JLJeremiah> It's a parody of those rumors, such as "Arthas will turn into a giant Naaru and destroy Northrend with giant moonfires."
12:04.47Pinkhair3d<Pinkhair> Next you'll be telling me that the sunwell will transform into a teenaged girl and join a blue dragon in a harrowing escape from a elven necromancer in a pimp outfit, only to end up sacrificing herself to defeat Kil'Jaeden himself.
12:04.47Pinkhair3d<Pinkhair> Heh, heh, like anything that silly could happen.
12:05.20g0urraIt does for me
12:10.08g0urraGlyph of the Penguin - Empowers a Minor Glyph to cause your Polymorph: Sheep spell to turn the target into a baby penguin.
12:10.40g0urraGlyph of the White Bear - Changes the appearance of your bear and dire bear forms to that of a polar bear.
12:13.29Pinkhair3dso where do you get this penguin thing?
12:13.33Pinkhair3dI MUST HAVE
12:13.38Pinkhair3dI'll never use it
12:13.41Pinkhair3dbut I want it
12:14.06Pinkhair3dI have the turtle polymorph, and I'm sure that'll jsut get rarer every day
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12:20.37g0urraPinkhair3d: dunno, but it's from inscription
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13:05.43pcjanyone know how to put a mount in a macro
13:07.49pcjin the beta
13:07.49ralfWORKthat reminds me, I need to farm ZG for that turtle poly so I can sell it for a boatload of cash
13:08.10g0urrapcj: you can't use your old mounts right now until they hotfix the problem
13:08.14g0urrabuy a new one
13:08.19pcjim a paladin
13:08.19pcjand so are you
13:08.28pcjthey're in the pets section of your character sheet
13:08.45pcjbut how do you macro it
13:09.58pcjit doesn't work
13:10.30Lukianwas it renamed?
13:10.51pcjRiding Horse (Charger)
13:10.55pcjand its no longer a spell
13:11.47Lukianhave you tried all possible permutations?
13:12.02pcjlol yes
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13:29.38pcjyay new poop quest
13:38.22g0urrabtw there's a name for the kobold placeholders in northrend: Snobold
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13:46.29RagestormI give up.
13:46.56RagestormI don't like complaining about specific people, but I'm at Wit's End.
13:49.06winkillerthat's about the only thing that annoys me about not having a beta key. everyone already knows about stuff when I come to discover it :(
13:49.30RagestormYou can view the aforementioned trailer whenever you want winkiller.
13:50.04winkillerI know, was more a general rant (and towards what pcj and g0urra just said 5min earlier) :P
13:51.19RagestormLook at it this way: by the time you get to it, it will look all nice and shiny.
13:58.54winkillerbut not new
13:59.26winkillerI couldn't really avoid getting to know all the stuff. except stopping to play wow, read the wiki, be on irc, read guildforums
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14:47.33amrowinkiller: that's like hammerspac
14:48.03amroand i used to think FPS games were unrealistic with inventory
14:50.26Krapsthat guy should read wowinsider
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15:16.16winkillerShop Smart, Shop Pet...Smart
15:16.22winkillerthat's awesome
15:23.13g0urra"Also I acquired some centaur re!!**tions (can't remember after which quest this exactly hap%@**d)."
15:23.22g0urrago go profanity filter
15:23.54g0urra(fyi "pene" and "puta" are spanish swear words)
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15:35.40g0urraI hate graphics cards
15:36.12amros/graphics/ati graphics/
15:37.40Fisker-i know what pene means g0urra :o
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15:38.10Fisker-inserts pene into g0urra
15:38.22amroprofanity filter is epic fail
15:38.42amroforums code of conduct says even masked profanity is a no-no
15:38.52amroyet the forum software detects it, masks it, and posts it
15:39.09amroinstead of erroring
15:40.32Fisker-good idea amro
15:40.41Fisker-reports for masked profanity
15:42.13Krapslooks like wotlk's fury tree will be the way to go
15:42.24Krapsfor warriors
15:43.39Krapsarms looks very "meh"
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15:48.20Pinkhair3dthings can change a lot
15:48.27Pinkhair3djsut look at th latest mage changes
15:52.04Krapshow do i know what the latest changes are?
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16:06.25g0urrahuh.. as it looks now, Crystalsong Forest will be its own zone
16:07.41ralfWORKKraps: fury for leveling you mean?
16:08.09ralfWORKI'm gonna bring my warrior up  first
16:08.15ralfWORKjust leave him prot and tank on the way uup
16:08.21ralfWORKI'm expecting it to be fine
16:09.15Krapswhat level is it?
16:10.11Krapsmine is kind of stuck at 53
16:10.22ralfWORKstuck? stuck is in your mind!
16:10.45ralfWORKmid fifties suck though you're right
16:10.55ralfWORKjsut stuck grinding to 60 so you can do ramps
16:11.04ralfWORKcause no one will do BRD
16:11.14ralfWORKand no one will do LBRS
16:11.20Krapsi despratly need better gear, but i cant find time for instances
16:11.43ralfWORKah that's a different issue
16:11.50ralfWORKI couldn't find a !@#$ group
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16:12.21Krapsthats also a problem
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16:14.24Erzealyea i have trouble finding groups too. Used to be people would do it for gold. now people wont even do it then. everyone just seems to ignore each other unless your in a guild.
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16:14.54ralfWORKI don't have such a hard time with heroics
16:16.05ralfWORKbut for the most part I think it's because of the dailies
16:16.17ralfWORKthat's the trick; being willing to do whatever the daily is
16:16.31ralfWORKand it's never BRD :(
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16:18.11ralfWORKforcing myself to do the heroic dailies has actually opened up certain heroics for me
16:18.17ralfWORKI avoided the crap out of heroic BM
16:18.23ralfWORKdid it the other day and it was a cakewalk
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16:27.32pcj"But give him a violent shake, or shout in his face, and he gets upset."
16:29.35Magathor...they're taking over.
16:29.42Magathorgets his shotgun.
16:30.16ralfWORKheh that's kinda cool
16:31.06ralfWORKYES COOOL
16:31.10MagathorYou think bowing to a machine is cool?!
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16:45.12ralfWORKgod Dreamhost is terribad
16:45.59Krapsyou hosting something?
16:46.11ralfWORKalways :P
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16:53.52MagathorDreamhost's name is just that - the only way to get it to work is to dream it works.
16:55.45Pinkhair3der, wrong thing
16:56.03g0urraanyone else have problems logging in to beta? :/
16:56.13ralfWORKwtf  lol
16:56.21Pinkhair3dI seem to lack a beta key
16:56.33Pinkhair3dit's making it quite difficult to log in
16:57.17g0urrau guis~
16:59.21Fisker-oh u g0urra
17:00.27g0urraFisker- how's beta
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17:03.51KirochiBAN BAN BAN
17:07.04Kirochiyou wish
17:07.11amroadys, grant me a wish
17:07.23Adysamro, Kalroth may be naked today
17:07.31*** mode/#wowwiki [+b %Kirochi!*@*] by Adys
17:07.35ralfWORKsees a /mode #wowwiki +b amro coming up
17:07.42*** mode/#wowwiki [-b %Kirochi!*@*] by Adys
17:07.53*** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!*@*] by Adys
17:07.59Adys(thats ralfWORK !)
17:08.05Adys(IM THAT DEEP)
17:08.13*** mode/#wowwiki [-b *!*@*] by Adys
17:08.14KirochiCMB DTC
17:08.38AdysVTFF PD
17:08.38ralfWORKdid not see t hat one coming up!
17:08.38g0urrafail beta login is fail
17:08.49ralfWORKhey guys who wants to do kara tonight? :P
17:08.52Kirochiboooooooaaarnnn 2B wwwwwwyyyyylllldd
17:08.59g0urrayay 503 error on the beta forums
17:09.03g0urrasmells fixes
17:09.54Adys503 ERROR ON BETA FORUMS??
17:10.03Adyswait, shit
17:10.48g0urra"Service Temporarily Unavailable
17:10.48g0urraThe server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."
17:10.51g0urraO HAI ADYS
17:11.21CharitwoKirkburn|afk: here?
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17:22.32Fisker-Anyone saw if there was any news on the forums before they went down? :o
17:24.41Pinkhair3dFisker- Aggroing bear now aggroes ALL bears
17:24.59Pinkhair3dAnd when you skin one, well, it's all over
17:25.21Fisker-it already was
17:26.06Kirochino no pinky you're saying it wrong
17:26.10Kirochiit will aggro EVERY bears
17:33.19Krapsserves them and the nyc media right
17:33.33g0urraPinkhair3d: honestly Martin Falch's vid is the best
17:41.48Kirochig0urra> -Fanfic
17:41.53Kirochicouldn't be clearer
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17:47.48Kirochi<Drewbie> back
17:47.48Kirochi<Drewbie> mmm burritos are yummy
17:48.30KirochiPazza_, sei veramente pazza o solamente ... ?
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17:51.01Pazza_che c'e Kirochi?
17:51.17Kirochiniente, non preoccuparti :D
17:51.37Pazza_il mio Italiano non c'e buono niente piu
17:52.48Kirochima da dove sei allora? oO
17:53.59Pazza_NY :-) ho cugini in italia
17:54.08Kirochioh I get it
17:54.19Kirochishoulda spoken english to you in the first place
17:54.26Pazza_haha yeah
17:55.18Kirochiwe're getting many italian speakers in these days
17:55.25KirochiKirkburn|afk, Eraclito...
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17:58.51KirochiWorldwide World of WoWwiki
18:13.29g0urra lol
18:13.42Fisker-how's the beta going g0urra ?
18:13.45g0urra"Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over"
18:14.04g0urra"Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead "
18:14.16ralfWORK"Man Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge"
18:14.20g0urra"Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors"
18:14.36ralfWORKthe cemetary one is great
18:14.46Eraclito <- is it real?
18:15.15ralfWORKif this is some I'm gonna be pissed
18:15.45Fisker-giev beta g0urra
18:15.46MagathorWhy would he be that funny.. I mean cruel?
18:16.07ralfWORKEraclito: looks like the map I remember. am I missing something?
18:16.18MagathorI don't get it.
18:16.26Eraclitoit was a nice sphere
18:16.28MagathorI don't get it.
18:16.33Fisker-the loginserver is sloooooooow
18:16.40MagathorI see
18:16.49Fisker-so it's stuck at handshaking, connecting, back to disconnected
18:17.05g0urraI got to the realms list :D
18:17.31Fisker-i would too if i bothered cancelling after it got connected
18:17.38Fisker-i outlevel you g0urra
18:19.57Fisker-[20:18:36] <Pneumatus> Danishdkofdk = worst name ever
18:20.11g0urrait's true
18:20.18Fisker-no u
18:20.37g0urraoh u
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18:21.52g0urrahi Keolah
18:23.29ralfWORKwhat  will we do with dalran?
18:23.31ralfWORKo noes
18:25.46MagathorFisker.. are you the Danishdkofdk?
18:25.51MagathorSay yes so I can laugh.
18:26.28pcjlol tamable devilsaurs
18:27.57Fisker-no Magathor
18:27.58Fisker-not at all
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18:28.08Fisker-must be some crazy guy
18:28.20Magathorso I can make fun of the Danish?
18:28.23Fisker-because you'd have to be crazy to be called Danishdkofdk :(
18:28.28amrolol Fisker-
18:28.36Fisker-no it's probably a swede who hates danish people
18:28.45g0urraMagathor: Fisker- is Danishdkofdk
18:28.50ralfWORKnamed Borkborkbork?
18:28.51Magathoroh, good.
18:29.05Fisker-g0urra you have no proof
18:29.12Sky2042Sweden > Denmark
18:29.24amrohe does if he's willing to look in the chatlogs
18:29.31MagathorFisker.. you can be the EU Magathor because I feel bad for you.
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18:29.53Kirochidu är bög
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18:30.08Fisker-du er en eg Kirkburn|afk
18:30.39Fisker-must be some vandal
18:30.51g0urrajul 23 18:37:00 <Kirkburn|afk>So, what are people's names on beta?
18:30.51g0urrajul 23 18:39:04 <Fisker->Danishdkofdk Kirkburn|afk
18:31.03Fisker-i meant Kirkburn was Danishdkofdk
18:31.34g0urrajul 26 11:53:18 <Ose>Fisker-: seriously?
18:31.34g0urrajul 26 11:53:52 <Fisker->yeah
18:31.34g0urrajul 26 11:54:07 <Ose>Danishdkofdk?
18:31.34g0urrajul 26 11:54:12 <Fisker->yeah
18:31.35amrobtw Fisker-, might wanna change your password on wowwiki.  08:00, 26 July 2008 Fisker (Talk | contribs) m (1,579 bytes) (→EU server (Coldarra)) (undo)
18:31.43amrorofl g0urra
18:31.57Fisker-as amro said someone keylogged me
18:32.10Kirochidun clik iz an keylogger
18:33.00Fisker-old news is old Kirochi
18:33.23Kirochithis means no one can finger her :(
18:33.30Kirochishe's fingered enough
18:33.56g0urraoh man
18:34.01g0urraalien women with 6 fingers
18:34.38ralfWORKI'd still hit it :P
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18:35.14Fisker-lets shake hands g0urra
18:35.34Kirochigoes on a pissed-off rampage
18:35.38Fisker-shakes hands with g0urra
18:35.38KirochiICH WILL SPIELER
18:35.39g0urraI'm logging in to game server
18:37.24Fisker-hey g0urra
18:38.14Fisker-looks like EA and Crytek got a fucking clue
18:38.46g0urraFisker-: ?
18:39.54Fisker-isn\t old front page old_
18:40.10Fisker-g0urra EA wants to market PC's as being "ready for Crysis"
18:40.26Fisker-finally figured that shitty game + insane hardware requirements = shitty shales
18:40.47ralfWORKshe sells sea shells down by the sea shore
18:40.50Fisker-shales = sales of course
18:40.54KirochiFisker- stfu
18:40.57Kirochiold stuff is good
18:41.15Fisker-no Kirochi stfu
18:41.36Kirochi~no u
18:41.37infobotNO U
18:41.47Fisker-~no u
18:41.47infobotNO U
18:41.58Kirochi~whalenuke Fisker-
18:41.59infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers.
18:42.06Fisker-~no u
18:42.07infobotNO U
18:42.16KirochiI don't know you at all
18:42.21Sky2042~whale nuke Kirochi
18:42.26Sky2042~whalenuke Kirochi
18:42.27infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Kirochi with his mind powers.
18:42.29Kirochicould you sum up your wowwiki background for us? =)
18:42.31Sky2042kicks infobot.
18:42.33AdysFisker-: I got items I had deleted over a month before restored
18:42.37Adysand thats not long ago
18:42.42Kirochiadys tuladanlku
18:42.47Fisker-Then that's their mistake
18:42.57Adysbut my bad
18:42.58Fisker-Or there were special circumstances
18:43.05Adysnothing special afaik
18:43.29AdysMy next point is what hardcore person DOESN'T keep space for these once in a life time pets?
18:43.29AdysI know have all mine, and yes thye do take up around 30-40 bag spaces on my bank, but its spaces ell invested, I have bank alts for everything else, I have never deleted a pet that was not easy to get again eg through a vendor.
18:43.59Adysanyway its totally dumb thinking restoration cant be automated
18:44.06Fisker-And that's even from today
18:44.10Fisker-also about the pets
18:44.19Fisker-they only restored his CE pets because they were CE
18:44.21ralfWORKewww pets
18:47.17Magathorneeds to find a place to download the beta client.
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18:47.22MagathorWhere does I do this?
18:47.31Fisker-i hope they decide to make some script that runs through all quests ever done and reimburses the pet if deleted
18:47.39Fisker-then atleast we'd have the quest pets
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18:49.12Magathorwhere can I download the beta client?
18:49.33Fisker-from the beta page
18:49.36Kirochiin uranus
18:49.49Fisker-they should name it urectum Kirochi
18:49.54Fisker-then noone would make that joke ever again
18:50.43KirochiUranus is the god of skies
18:50.52KirochiUranus is in the sky
18:55.43Magathoranyone mind linking me the beta download?
18:55.45MagathorI can't find it. :(
18:58.44g0urrakd3, why are you not uploading zone maps over old ones
19:02.58ralfWORKI'd like to see a way of listing quests completed
19:03.01ralfWORKthat would make me happy :P
19:04.00kd3thought I did
19:04.10kd3I was using the names they're using internally
19:04.38kd3dalaran literally is called Dalaran2_
19:06.22kd3no worries. anyway, I'm out for a bit
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19:14.29pcjcrystalsong forest, dalaran, and lake wintergrasp are now implemented in {{co}}
19:14.38pcj{{zone map}} was updated with better logic
19:22.25g0urrano realms D:
19:33.53Fisker-slaps g0urra around a bit with a large trout
19:37.11Fisker-i am unable to connect g0urra
19:37.16Fisker-not even a handshake will it grant me
19:37.24g0urrawash your hands
19:38.36Adyswhy arent the real band members in there?
19:38.58Sky2042I'm not sure we have all of them on there.
19:39.01Sky2042on wiki*
19:39.14Adysput the names at least
19:39.19Adysred is not a bad thing
19:39.41Adysalso, its lacking the blackrock depth stage
19:39.45Adysand no im not editing it
19:39.58Sky2042pokes g0urra, as he's pretty sure that's the person who made it.
19:40.10g0urraI'm working on it.
19:40.39Adysgrim guzzler i think is the name of the blackrock bar
19:42.05Krapswowhead killer?
19:42.23g0urrathere, an image too
19:42.58Sky2042Kraps: Nope.
19:43.18Sky2042Kraps: everyone knew the moment they launched they were basically a copy paste of wowhead in a different programming language.
19:43.35Adyshow can you copypaste something into a different programming language?
19:43.39Adysthat totally doesnt make sense
19:43.40Krapsthats what i thought, but it looks close
19:43.45Fisker-shakes hands with g0urra
19:43.50Adysparticularly if you dont have the source.
19:43.53g0urraWASH YOUR HANDS
19:44.02Sky2042s/programming language/page source/
19:44.02g0urraFILTHY DANISH
19:44.16Adysyou make even less sense Sky2042
19:44.20Adysi suggest you stop trying
19:44.32Sky2042You know what I meant the first time, anyway. >.>
19:44.37Krapsyou have to admit, it does look badass :p
19:44.39Fisker-If you don't respond to it g0urra then end yourself
19:44.42Sky2042beats Adys over the head.
19:44.43Sky2042Kraps: Oh?
19:44.48g0urrarespond to what
19:44.53Adysit looks okay i guess
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19:45.18Fisker-end yourself
19:45.30Fisker-The correct answer is: "Malygos!"
19:45.32horsebreath35How do I buy WoW online? Download the free trial and then use the online BC upgrade?
19:45.46Adysblizzard store i think
19:46.36Krapsyou mean direct d/l?
19:46.43Sky2042What's the Fx shortcut for next tab again? It like, went right out of my mind. :/
19:46.52Adysctrl tab...
19:47.01Sky2042Thank you.
19:47.13Adysor ctrl pageup/pagedown
19:47.16Krapsyou might have to buy the full versions of both
19:47.24horsebreath35From a store? Or can I buy them online?
19:47.30Kraps1 sec
19:47.57*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> #wowwiki: Kickin' Nass and Takin' Manes - Chan rules: | All UI questions: #wowuidev | CVN channel: #cvn-wikia-wowwiki | WotLK portal is up - | 1. Build Oil Rig 2. ??? 3. Profit!
19:48.26g0urraFisker-, actually it's Saragosa
19:48.35g0urraso you fail
19:49.08Sky2042chuckles at that topic.
19:49.34Krapshorsebreath35: go to your account manager
19:49.46horsebreath35I dont have an account, because I haven't bought WOW yet
19:49.51horsebreath35You need a serial code to make an account
19:49.52Fisker-g0urra nah cause i actually knew what to say
19:49.54Fisker-you were just fail
19:49.58Fisker-~epic fail g0urra
19:49.59infobotg0urra, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you g0urra, you are that epic failure.
19:50.05g0urraSargosa is unheart of
19:50.09g0urrabut I know who Saragosa
19:50.14Magathorhorse: make a trial account then upgrade it.
19:50.16Fisker-then you are retarded
19:50.18g0urra~whalenuke Fisker-
19:50.19infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers.
19:50.20Fisker-which is even more epic fail
19:50.22Fisker-~epic fail g0urra
19:50.22infobotg0urra, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you g0urra, you are that epic failure.
19:50.36Krapshorsebreath35: you dont if you do it online
19:50.42Fisker-What you just said g0urra
19:50.55horsebreath35can't I just upgrade a trial?
19:50.58Fisker-if someone said "1+1 = 3" then you would be unable to comprehend the error
19:51.08Fisker-that's how stupid you are :)
19:51.17g0urrano u
19:51.19foxlitFisker-: everyone knows that 2 + 2 = 5 :)
19:51.22Krapsyou dont have one yet right?
19:51.28horsebreath35truth be told
19:51.31horsebreath35i play on my friend's account
19:51.35horsebreath35but want my own now
19:51.56horsebreath35i got to 70 lol
19:52.00horsebreath35so i'm going to transfer
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19:52.46equiraptorMake your account in your friend's name. Then you can transfer the character. Later, f you want, you can go through the hassle with blizzard of changing the name on the account to yours.
19:52.57horsebreath35Already going to :)
19:52.58g0urraKirkburn: who's UberFuzzy and how did he fix our problems
19:53.02equiraptorThe "problem" with this is it could give your friend access to the account.
19:53.08horsebreath35Which is fine
19:53.16Sky2042g0urra: He's a Helper.
19:53.17ralfWORKyour "friend"
19:53.48Sky2042g0urra: Either a Gaming Helper or an intern, I can't recall.
19:57.35horsebreath35does my account have to have the same e-mail address as my friend?
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19:58.42Magathorno, make it your e-mail
19:59.54Krapsdoes my contact info have to be real?
20:00.11Magathori'd suggest it is
20:00.33Krapser, but i cant change my name
20:00.36Fisker-if your contact info isn't real then if you get hacked they'll probably close your account
20:00.40Arrowmasteryou cant change the name on an account unless you have legal proof of name change
20:01.06Krapswow, that sucks
20:01.53ralfWORKhow do the powerleveling services do it then? :P
20:01.59g0urraword of advice: if you buy a retail account for your gf, register it under your own name so you can transfer when you break up and you don't want to play anymore.
20:02.13g0urras/and you/and she/
20:02.21ralfWORKI know that's kinda a no-no subject but I'm just curious
20:02.24Adysqft g0urra
20:03.09winkilleror.. don't
20:03.20KrapsCongratulations! You've successfully changed your contact information! Tales of this historic moment will be told and retold down through the generations. Way to go!
20:03.24winkillerI know someone who lost her 70 because of a dick boyfriend ninjaing it
20:04.07Krapswho do i contact about my name?
20:04.34horsebreath35so when i download the 10-day free trial i get a serial code?
20:05.27horsebreath35"Authentication Key"
20:07.03Krapsi dont think so, you just upgrade to the full version
20:07.14Kraps19 busk
20:08.45Krapsthe wow credit card looks tempting
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20:18.09pcjlol adware
20:19.36Sky2042so true.
20:20.10g0urra"The Coilfang Armaments now give 83 reputation each after your first turn in. " o hey check your race.
20:30.46Sky2042Lol human.
20:44.15Fisker-slaps Sky2042 around a bit with a large trout
20:44.27Fisker-where are my servers?
20:44.35g0urranaga stole my server
20:46.35Fisker-please g0urra
20:46.39Fisker-i just want level 76
20:46.47g0urranaga please
20:52.02g0urraThel'zan the Duskbringer = Father Inigo Montoy?
20:56.20g0urrais listening to Grandaddy - The Go In The Go-For-It [01:12/03:40]
20:57.39KirochiBatman Begins was awesome
20:57.46Kirochiall hail Legendary Pictures
20:58.21g0urrahow was french batman
20:58.53g0urraor maybe I should say L'homme chauve-souris
20:58.59g0urra(google translate = awsm)
20:59.14Kirochiyou got it right
21:00.09Fisker-I AM DYING
21:00.13g0urrakd3: how do you find out the NPC ID's?
21:03.41g0urrain case nobody saw it:
21:03.54g0urraappearantly it hit the Blizzard US office in irvine too
21:03.58g0urramorning Kirkburn
21:04.18KirkburnOh, so /that's/ why the beta is unstable :P
21:04.35Kirochiur pc is unstable
21:04.49Fisker-it hit everyone on the earth g0urra
21:04.56Fisker-it's force is just dampened by the time though
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21:06.19KirkburnThe force is dampened by the time? What kind of reasoning is that?
21:06.37Fisker-by the time it reaches far enough to the force being dampened is what i meant
21:06.47KirkburnOh, that makes me so happy
21:06.55Fisker-and i wasn't being serious if that didn't get through to you btw
21:07.04KirkburnIf only Baggins and Ragestorm were here
21:08.28TecnoBratthe entire earth shaked a little bit in space!
21:09.00Sky2042TecnoBrat: /Not/ quite how it works.
21:09.09TecnoBratSky2042, pfft!
21:09.14Fisker-i shook my fist
21:09.20KirkburnFantastic work -
21:09.25KirkburnWhich is it to be?
21:09.33Kirkburnaka, who spelt it wrong
21:09.51g0urragoing by the game files it's CrystalSongForest
21:09.52kd3CrystalSongForest is how it is in my files
21:10.05Kirkburng0urra, that makes you wrong :P
21:10.20KirkburnI'll fix :)
21:10.30g0urraI'm not a dataminer sowwy ;<
21:10.40KirkburnExcuses :P
21:10.40TecnoBratkd3 is the winnar~!
21:11.02Kirkburnpcj, need you
21:11.16KirkburnIt's CrystalSong, not Crystalsong
21:11.17Fisker-OMG SERVER UP G0URRA
21:11.23pcjwell its not my fault
21:11.27KirkburnI think you need to tweak the co-ord bit
21:11.32KirkburnI know, but I'll break it :P
21:12.14g0urraGood news: pets are working :)
21:12.33TecnoBratare mounts?
21:12.53g0urra1 sec cast to summon them though
21:12.58TecnoBratlast I heard at like 2am they were broken, lol
21:13.07TecnoBrat1 sec is less than before no?
21:13.22g0urranot non-combat pets
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21:13.29g0urrathey are 1 sec now
21:13.47Kirochi[[Dave Berggren]]
21:13.55TecnoBratyea, 3 secs before
21:14.02TecnoBratoh pets
21:14.10TecnoBratI thought we were talking mounts!
21:14.39Kirkburnpcj, thanks :)
21:15.16KirkburnTekkub, bookmark widget is now live
21:15.24horsebreath35i hate being a warlock man
21:16.18KirkburnSky2042, news about 1.13, once it goes final, it shouldn't be long at all
21:16.24winkillerhaha, that's so freat
21:16.36winkillerPS. And to get wider distribution for this message: Digg users - you're
21:16.36winkillerall a bunch of Wanking Walruses. And you can quote me on that. (Linus)
21:17.01Sky2042Oh yippy.
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21:17.54KirkburnCrystalsong Forest is now a zone :)
21:18.39RagestormThat's wonderful!
21:18.53KirochiI want to live :)
21:18.53Ragestorm(Why exactly is it wonderful?)
21:19.07Sky2042Because they were considering getting rid of it or something.
21:19.20RagestormKirochi: that is good news
21:19.27KirkburnExistence as a subzone didn't really do it justice
21:19.52RagestormThis also proves our intel was on the level- when the RPG contradicts the game, the game is right.
21:19.57Kirochilook at you Kirkburn, defending a lorewise important zone to Ragestorm, who doesn't seem to care
21:20.20Kirochithe game is always right
21:20.30Kirochicreative dev says so
21:20.42RagestormThis is living proof.
21:20.59Sky2042must have missed something.
21:21.06g0urraHmpf, I can't learn my Sleepy Willy or Clocwork Rocket Bot :(
21:21.19KirochiI think something like "don't feel special or like a lorekeeper if you know the RPG. In the end the game will always have the last word"
21:21.25Kirochiwould be right to say
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21:24.50kd3pokes {{Eastern Plaguelands/Dev}}
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21:25.29Kirochi<Kirochi> k nvm
21:25.29Kirochi<[^afaizer> care to elaborate?
21:25.29Kirochi<Kirochi> OK, never mind
21:25.44Kirkburnkd3, nice
21:26.04TecnoBratwow thats a lot of subzones
21:26.42kd3regular epl's worse...
21:26.53kd3part of me just wants to make a {{Scarlet Enclave}} template
21:28.13Sky2042_afkSo do that.
21:28.15Kirochikd3 give in to the part of you which asks you to slack
21:30.34KirkburnSo I hear regen mechanics were changed
21:30.48bleeterg0urra: nothing worse than when yer mechanical willy fails to work
21:32.00Sky2042foxlit: a compelling reason against {{item}}, imo.
21:32.02bleeterKirkburn: changed how? is it boobie po;wered?
21:32.23KirkburnIt's continuous
21:32.30foxlitSky: we never hit that limit
21:32.34Sky2042It's DuTempete powered!
21:32.36KirochiSo I herd u liek regen mechanics Kirkburn?
21:32.49Sky2042foxlit: Ignore "limit" for the moment and actually read it, kthx.
21:32.50Kirochifoxlit> the sky's the limit
21:33.16foxlit"This may cause some pages to run into template limits much sooner than expected."
21:33.27foxlitif we're not, it doesn't describe a valid issue
21:34.41foxlitConsidering that behavior is a bug to begin with, I think it's you who needs to read something again, kthx
21:35.41Sky2042foxlit: Never said "again".
21:35.55foxlitI presume you read it before you linked it
21:36.10Sky2042Ke ke.
21:36.40KirochiSky2042> we're not playing starcraft, k?
21:45.03horsebreath35Is waiting to level to 70 and doing the 69 bracket for easier XP a good idea?
21:45.30horsebreath35honor, I mean
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21:49.06Kirochiwho the hell is srosh
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21:50.48Eraclito@ datamining:
21:51.30TecnoBratEraclito, you killed the L!
21:51.40KirochiEraclito, I love it
21:51.50KirochiIn the name of LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
21:54.02sacarasclooks like maybe the eu login servers are down ;\
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21:54.55g0urrafirst server crash after it got up :DDD
21:56.47g0urrakd3: is there a command for hovering over abilities/talents too?
21:57.12KirochiI get to teach a whole lesson all by myself
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21:57.24KirochiAnd I'm going to teach something new, something relevant !
21:57.31KirochiThe Internet!
21:57.41foxlitis for ...
21:57.50kd3I haven't come up with one
21:58.14Aloysiusanyone else who cant connect? :<
21:58.15Sky2042feels the urge to kick someone.
21:58.48sacarascSky2042: pick Fisker-
21:58.57Sky2042Ok, one vote for Fisker.
21:59.00Sky2042anyone else?
21:59.19Sky2042ok, Fisker it is.
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21:59.37Kirochitwo votes for the dane
21:59.37Sky2042Any last words for Fisker?
21:59.38g0urraI vote for fisker too
21:59.44Sky2042Three votes!
22:00.15Sky2042In the opinion of this jury, you have found guilty of existing. Goodbye!
22:00.21*** kick/#wowwiki [Fisker-!n=Sky2042@wikimedia/Izno] by Sky2042 (Sky2042)
22:00.27kd3"Remember this day, <name>, for it is the day that you will be thoroughly owned."
22:00.38Sky2042And he didn't come back. Amaaaaaazing.
22:00.58Sky2042And with that, I bid the rest of you, "Adieu".
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22:07.16horsebreath35answer my question
22:07.43Magathorthe 61-69 bracket is paired with the 70 bracket
22:07.49Magathorso it's the same thing from 61 on
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22:09.44Fisker-get out
22:09.50Fisker-it's a trap
22:10.10Fisker-someone didn't want you alive
22:10.11Fisker-GET OUT
22:10.48Kirochiget in the car
22:10.54infobotACTION gets in the car
22:11.31Fisker-i r srs
22:13.05Corgandid you get a beta key yet
22:13.46Fisker-nah Corgan not at lal
22:14.00Corganhey wait
22:14.05Fisker-tired Fisker- is tirde
22:14.18Fisker-you look hot Corgan
22:15.58Kalrothis that Fisker in the middle?
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22:21.26MagathorI wonder if Inscription will rely on more than just Herbalism, or Enchanting. Maybe Mining?
22:21.39MagathorI could imagine gems or ores being used to "imbue" your spells aswell.
22:32.13horsebreath35its only shared in AV, Maga
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22:33.18Sky2042omg omg omg they finally removed wand specialization
22:34.02Sky2042Nerf to Imp Scorch though imo.
22:36.01horsebreath35Nerfing soul link :(
22:37.07Sky2042BW has knockback now.
22:38.16Sky2042Blast Wave
22:38.49Sky2042Slightly ironic for an AoE spell, but definitely gives a Mage space
22:39.12pcjpaladin mounts subject to haste rating
22:39.24Sky2042ha ha ha.
22:40.51kd3rofl... [Solo Onyxia]. R&D, Wrath, very bottom. "This achievement is here for Beta Testing Purposes. Please report bugs and exploits on the Beta Forums."
22:42.45KirochiOn kauniina muistona Karjalan maa
22:47.26g0urrascrew charges, I'm riding my pink choco--hawkstrider
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22:57.38Kirochiinfobot, no, what-what is <reply>In your butt? Let's do it.
22:57.39infobotKirochi: okay
22:57.43infobotIn your butt? Let's do it.
22:59.08Eraclito"solo onyxia" doable by every classes at lv80? uhm
23:09.46Kirochiis lvl 80 open now?
23:13.27Eraclitowants a mage-only flying mount. like a... uhm... water elemental gryphon.
23:13.50Kirochian ice elemental cloud
23:16.05Kirochi(acqua gelata che vuola=nuvola :D)
23:18.20Eraclitolol but it's che vola
23:19.27Kirochiooooh oh
23:19.27g0urrapcj: want moar jobqueues?
23:19.34Kirochioooh oh oh oh
23:19.44Kirochinel blù dipinto di blù
23:19.50Kirochifelice di stare lassù
23:21.16KirkburnFisker-, I like the handshaking joke :P
23:26.35KirochiSoloing Onyxia
23:26.51KirochiHow you hope it will look like :
23:27.04KirochiHow it turns out to be :
23:29.05sacarasclevel 136 it says on the first one?
23:29.48g0urraThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 36589
23:31.43Kirochi"how you hope it"
23:34.46Kirochithis looks shopped
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23:35.05KirochiI can tell from having seen quite a few pixels in my time
23:35.33Kirochi(why isn't kd3 opped anymore?)
23:35.59KirkburnPersonal choice
23:36.01Sky2042_afk(because he chose to unop)
23:36.12pcjthanks for the annotation sky
23:36.17Kirochiand why isn't amro given voice?
23:36.20Kirochihe deserves it
23:36.30*** mode/#wowwiki [-v amro] by pcj
23:37.24Sky2042_afkKirochi: How so?
23:37.24Kirochiola kala
23:37.29Kirochihe speaks French:
23:37.58Sky2042_afkUm, anything else, possibly of relevance to the wiki or to the Warcraft world?...
23:38.49Kirochihe's better at templates than I am
23:42.20KirochiOh, isn't that a demonic duck of some sort?
23:42.24Kirochiruns away
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23:59.26Sandwichman2448Hey, how do you end a crazy person vote? If they pass do they stay in Votes in progress

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