IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080613

00:08.00g0urra woop woop
00:12.39Jimdinventor*nod* - I imagine this won't be the last time you have to do that.
00:17.23JimdinventorThat's not exactly "news", though.  Being from 2002, it's "olds". :-)
00:17.36JimdinventorAmusing nonetheless - thanks.
00:18.13JimdinventorAlso, Pcj, thanks for welcoming me to WoWWiki originally.
00:31.47g0urraJimdinventor, "next melee" fixed
00:40.04JimdinventorOMG, your very existence bends time and space. :-D
00:40.22JimdinventorYou keep fixing things even as I'm seeing how they work, hehe!
00:40.31JimdinventorGood job, Gourra.
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00:49.25g0urra what......
00:50.25VvWolverinevVhey does anyone know if Sony has plans to make another PS3 with PS2 compatibilitiy hardware (not just software)?
00:50.44foxlitsony does, maybe
00:51.17g0urraVvWolverinevV, you're in the wrong channel.
00:51.32VvWolverinevVwhat's the right channel?
00:51.51g0urraI don't know, but it's certainly not in the wowwiki channel.
00:52.09VvWolverinevVwhy? people here play video games...
00:52.20JimdinventorNo idea, Gourra.  Intended for someone's User:page, maybe?
00:53.24VvWolverinevVthat user image rules
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01:33.40ValexanarrWhen S4 stars will Guardian's items be available to buy with honor?
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02:00.59pcjadys "No module named toxml"
02:01.41Adysi know dont worry about it im rewriting it
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02:47.00KeolahSo we're in the Sunken Temple, and we come to this "Pit of Sacrifice", and I'm like "I'm not jumping in there." and my bf goes "Hey, I wonder what's down there!" and jumps... and dies, predictably. ;p
03:14.44Fisker-they must nerf spellpower
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03:49.20DottedThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 5234
03:53.15Sky2042_afkKeolah: lol.
03:55.07Sky2042pcj: lol...
03:58.36Kirkburn|sleepNew polls up
03:58.47Kirkburn|sleepPaladins are the most popular class atm o_O
03:59.03Sky2042omg hai Kirkburn!
03:59.10Sky2042status on teh emailz?
03:59.16KirkburnNo change
04:00.04Sky2042pcj: [[Special:Prefixindex/Template:Spell:]]
04:00.07Sky2042go go go
04:00.25pcjMeh, I'm just eliminating the Spell: pseudo-namespace one by one
04:00.54pcjanyway all of those pages you can just delete since they're redirects
04:01.05Sky2042Kirkburn: actually, i have a thought on those. they've somewhat outlived their usefulness, considering half the pages on the wiki transclude a link. so i was wondering if we could work to delete them...
04:01.08Sky2042pcj: i know.
04:01.15Sky2042pcj: but deleting redirects sucks :(
04:01.31pcjjust write some custom JS which appends &redirect=no
04:01.40KirkburnI put the AJAX feed loading live, pcj
04:01.42Sky2042if i could?...
04:01.52Sky2042really should learn the language...
04:01.53pcjuh wasn't it already loading live kirkburn..
04:01.57pcjoh you mean main page
04:02.02pcjright w/e
04:02.58Sky2042pokes kirkburn for thoughts on question.
04:03.07KirkburnI have few
04:03.24Sky2042pcj: ah, you're thinking the same as me. oh goodie.
04:03.26KirkburnNot sure what you're asking, anyway
04:03.40pcjWell, I think Spell: needs to die
04:03.43pcjand Spelllink
04:03.53pcjIt probably messes up search results and stuff
04:03.54Sky2042Kill Spell: pages. if they have content, keep them but move them to their name
04:04.09Sky2042reason being they've outlived their usefulness.
04:04.23Sky2042alternatively, i would not be against putting them back in the template namespace... >.>
04:04.31Sky2042but something should be done imo
04:04.41pcjnah not template
04:04.44pcjthey're not really templates
04:04.49pcjthey're not really content pages
04:04.52pcjthey shouldn't be there
04:04.56Sky2042pcj: heh
04:05.11Sky2042to each their own.
04:05.24Sky2042i'm of split opinion tbh, leaning more for outright deletion.
04:06.47Sky2042wonders if Kirkburn still doesn't get it?
04:07.19pcjalso {{spelllink}} uses #ifexist
04:07.32KirkburnI'm more of the view that it's not my area
04:07.53Sky2042Kirkburn: ok, good enough. are you of the area though "speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil" though?
04:08.00Sky2042pcj: eep.
04:09.10Sky2042gd i hate not signing
04:14.47Sky2042Kirkburn: do you know if it's intended for <code> to not be <nowiki>d? it would seem like <code> should be nowikied by default... :/
04:15.40KirkburnI would assume not, given that it is't - but yes, it does sometimes strike me as odd
04:16.42Sky2042maybe make a note of that?
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04:17.15Sky2042pcj: did you just start on this spell link killing spree or is this something you've been working on (in curiousity)
04:17.19Sky2042Arrowmaster: is that j00?!
04:17.52pcjjust started
04:19.41KirkburnWhy the heck are there 3 polish wow wikis
04:19.53ArrowmasterSky2042: huh?
04:19.59Sky2042Arrowmaster: that is j00!
04:20.10KirkburnThis one just plain nicked our skin and my main page stuff -
04:20.32Sky2042aw poor Kirkburn :(
04:20.40Sky2042all that work, put to good use.
04:20.56KirkburnMy complaint is mainly that it's an attempt to associate with us, when they have no relation
04:21.12Sky2042you know what they say about imitation, right?
04:21.14KirkburnNone that I know of, anyway
04:21.18KirkburnYes, I know :P
04:21.49Sky2042anyway, that particular wiki is Creative commons.
04:22.01Sky2042than there's the wikia, which gfdl
04:22.34Sky2042what's the license on the third?
04:22.39KirkburnOh frakkin' hell
04:22.47KirkburnLook at that signature ...
04:23.00Sky2042Aw, he likes you!
04:23.30Sky2042they even replaced the book up top =]
04:23.44Sky2042they has a real forum!
04:24.10KirkburnYeah, we shouldn't be too far off getting one ourselves
04:24.22KirkburnJust a bit busy with other things atm
04:24.27Sky2042that one is run by the biggest .pl establishment for warcraft if i understand it correctly
04:24.43Sky2042which one kirk, the experimental on inside or a real phpbb?
04:25.24KirkburnBy which I mean, it's not been decided
04:25.39Sky2042Kirkburn: lol, dunno works for me too in this case.
04:25.44KirkburnThe inside one looks fairly good now
04:25.54Sky2042hmm... did wikia consider putting banners above the h2s?
04:25.58Sky2042banner ads*
04:26.12Sky2042or possibly below them.
04:26.16Sky2042probably below...
04:26.29Sky2042(for new monaco)
04:26.40Sky2042spits on "New Monaco".
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04:30.39Dottedis freezing
04:31.02KirkburnStop that
04:31.17Sky2042who, him freezing or me spitting?
04:32.42KirkburnBoth :)
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04:33.15KirkburnTecno-Discon ... interesting name?
04:33.35Dottedis freezing
04:33.36Dottedis freezing
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04:35.47Sky2042_afkyay for disconnects.
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04:36.44Dottedgod wins
04:37.51pcjthank you dotted
04:38.19pcji now have something new to haunt my dreams
04:38.30kd3meh, that would've been okay w/o the name
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04:39.37Dottedpcj surely Tsukasa wont haunt you :<
04:39.48kd3a tsukasa is fine too
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04:40.47Dottedgoes off to finding something that surely will haunt pcj
04:42.36KirkburnAdys, what was the safari corner code?
04:42.38Sky2042so what /are/ all the different letters know for?
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04:43.19kd3, hover over the second row, skim around the letteres
04:43.26kd3gah, moot's redone the front page again
04:44.26Dottedhasnt it been like that for a while? granted i dont browse 4chan through the frontpage
04:47.11Dottedfuck im fracking freezing
04:48.04Dotteddid when i browsed /h/ :<
04:48.30Sky2042i don't browse 4chan, period.
04:48.45Dottedactually i think /y/ is something pcj would enjoy, dont you think kd3?
04:48.59DottedSky2042 good thing my nick is Dotted then
04:49.40Sky2042that actually got a chuckle out of me...
04:50.23Dottedyet it made no sense what so ever
04:51.16Dottedim still freezing
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04:52.23KirkburnHmm, needs an update
04:52.54Kirkburn is not co-ord safe afaik
04:53.03pcjping darkryder
04:53.27KirkburnWill do
04:55.42Dottedpcj here is something to haunt you
04:56.18pcjdotted you shouldn't wear a bikini
04:56.25Dotted acurate no?
04:56.48pcjkeep trying, you'll master cosplay yet
04:57.38Dottedi love /cgl/ the threads in there are made of win
04:57.53DottedHi /cgl/.
04:57.53DottedIm a girl with a flatchest. Like.. Really flat. (Flatter than A-Cup). Im tired of just crossplaying or doing loli cosplay, so I've decided to take on Yoko from Gurren Lagann as my next cosplay-project.
04:59.05Dotted reaction
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05:02.11Sky2042awesome reaction
05:02.44Sky2042that's one i should save...
05:09.57pcjuh kirkburn
05:10.35KirkburnThe whole Hils/Hills thing is messed up
05:10.42KirkburnI tried to sort it out so they're all Hills
05:11.05pcjthe misspelling is intended
05:11.22KirkburnExcept that's not what's used in your JS
05:11.31pcjYes it is
05:11.35KirkburnIt isn't
05:11.55KirkburnimageTitle = "d/db/WorldMap-Hillsbrad.jpg/300px-WorldMap-Hillsbrad.jpg";
05:12.10pcjHmm, wonder when that changed
05:13.40Sky2042suggests checking the edit history
05:14.07pcjI am
05:14.14pcjI should've changed it back
05:14.18pcjHmm, meh
05:14.24KirkburnNot really a problem now
05:14.34KirkburnEverything should point to Hills brad
05:18.42Dottedis freezing
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05:32.56Dotted::: Leech Axss - haxZaLot (pr0d bUh dAt LaMur kFiEd) : 03:40 : 160kbps : Stereo :::
05:34.21Sky2042pcj: is there any order to your madness?...
05:34.58pcjwhat do you mean
05:35.37Sky2042are you just clicking randompage and taking the spell/item that pops up, or is there a mob page, or is it the category?...
05:36.10pcji'm taking out the recipes first
05:36.20pcjsince i don't have to check if anything else links to that spell
05:37.54pcjother than that i try to catch the weird ones first
05:37.55pcjlike mounts
05:38.27pcjavoid the npcs as those are just transcluded items
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05:40.45Bagginswwyou know I like wii fit
05:41.00Sky2042pcj: some of them are template content, now that i think on it. they are used in multiple pages....
05:41.06BagginswwI actually feel like exercising
05:41.12Sky2042Bagginsww: yeah, looks fun to me. =)
05:41.20pcjplans shouldn't be used in more than one page
05:41.26Sky2042pcj: well, yes.
05:41.28BagginswwI dropped like 5 pounds in two weeks
05:41.31Sky2042but some are.
05:41.39Sky2042Bagginsww: some of that might be water weight...
05:42.04pcjlike i said i only don't check plans
05:50.10Sky2042chop off another 100 on our stat count
05:50.24Sky2042we're never going to catch memory-alpha
05:50.30Sky2042eep, wookieepedia*
05:50.55Sky2042is wrong, and he knows it, but wonders if anyone else does.
05:54.36Bagginswwfirst week kind of up and down, and next week it dropped pretty fast. I've been doing lots of things besides wii though. Snorkeling, walking, jogging
05:54.53Bagginswweating mostly veggies
05:55.03Bagginswwless processed stuff
05:58.55pcj that table...
05:59.06pcjneed more decimals
05:59.23Sky2042pcj: haha
05:59.46Sky2042i'll fix that, cause that 's kind of stupid.
06:00.26Bagginswwhow can you catch up with memory-alpha, there are just too many hours of star trek :p
06:00.42pcjbah there's not that many
06:00.45Sky2042Bagginsww: i switched the statement with wookiee
06:00.48pcji've watched them all at least three times
06:00.55Bagginswwheh heh
06:01.05Sky2042seriously doubts pcj.
06:01.08BagginswwI wish I owned all the shows :p
06:01.23pcji have them all on my computer
06:01.25Bagginswwbut at 130 for each season on average :p
06:01.33Bagginswwwell I could steal them :p
06:01.36pcjyeah i actually bought TNG
06:01.49pcjTOS would be the only other one which would be worth buying
06:01.56BagginswwI have all of original series, most of voyager before I moved to hawaii
06:02.05Bagginswwhad to leave it all back at home though
06:02.12KirkburnI eat masses of chocolate yet never put on weight ... Wii Fit ain't for me :P
06:02.19Bagginswwyou are evil :p
06:02.27BagginswwI have terrible metabolism
06:04.26Sky2042Kirkburn: that won't last. ;o
06:04.35Sky2042(btw, damn europeans)
06:04.48KirkburnIt's lasted for most of my life >_<
06:04.58KirkburnBut yeah ... probably not much longer :P
06:05.14Bagginswwhow old are you? if I may ask :p
06:05.40KirkburnHow very dare you!! (23)
06:06.06BagginswwLOL. Ya give it a couple more years you whippersnapper
06:06.26BagginswwI'm 28.
06:06.48BagginswwWii tells me i'm somwhere between 33 and 37 :p
06:06.55KirkburnYous ooold :P
06:07.00KirkburnBtw, did oyu get my email?
06:07.08Sky2042is 18 and doesn't have that kind of metabolism either. Good thing he exercises 3+ hours a day!
06:07.16Bagginswwoh yes, sorry been busy haven't answered alot of the stuff this week
06:07.47Kirkburnglaces at Sky2042 ... attack, attack!
06:07.53Bagginswwwell its a good thing I don't play mmos all day :p actually haven't had the chance for like 6-8 months :p
06:08.05KirkburnYay for summer :)
06:08.09Bagginswwor i'd probably twice as large
06:08.28Bagginswwyet kirkburn I don't have the urge to install it on my laptop or set up my desktop
06:08.36Bagginswwweather's too nice lol
06:08.46Sky2042I think the only mmo i've played in the last 6-8 months was CS and a bit of BF2142, and only for a total of 20 hours between the three...
06:08.47Bagginswwi'm close to the ocean
06:09.14Bagginswwbf2142 and CS are MMOs?
06:09.39Bagginswwthey have like how many people in the game at once 60?
06:10.18Bagginswwnot argueing, I don't know anything about BF2142, and I haven't kept track of CS for who knows how long
06:10.33Kirkburn(CS being Counter-Strike?)
06:10.36Sky2042massively multiplayer online games
06:10.47Sky2042a slight disctinction from MMORPG
06:10.55BagginswwI didn't say anything about rpg
06:11.15BagginswwI just thinking of like over 1000 people in the same world to be more of an MMO
06:11.27Sky2042CS is max 32 per server (I think source is max 64), and bf2142 is maxish 40 i think...
06:11.53KirkburnYeah, I do think it's stretching the definition a bit Sky :P
06:11.53Bagginswwya not sure I'd personally call massively, but certainly multiplayer ;)
06:12.04Sky2042Kirkburn: not really.
06:12.14Sky2042thousands of servers...
06:12.28Bagginswwgenerally speaking they mean on the same server
06:12.34Bagginswwnot the combined servers :p
06:12.47Sky2042want me to pull out wikipedia on your butt?
06:13.06Bagginswwand read various peoples definitions? no thank you
06:13.16Sky2042then don't argue
06:13.18Bagginswwthe problem is with industry jargon everyone has a deifnition :p
06:13.54BagginswwI could toss you some from two seperate companies and not get the same definition :p
06:14.13Kirkburn~wikipedia MMO
06:14.18Bagginswwso as I said, My personal opinion
06:14.31Bagginswwhmm a wikipedia is massively multiuser and online :)
06:14.33Kirkburnooooh, controversial :P
06:14.36Bagginswwits an MMO
06:14.47KirkburnBtw, ... interesting ...
06:15.27Sky2042Bagginsww: it's not a video game, which is explained in the first sentence silly goose.
06:15.54Bagginswwbut it still is an MMO :), abbreviations get used for alot of things :p
06:16.06BagginswwGM, :p
06:17.41Sky2042Kirkburn: haha...
06:18.17Sky2042Bagginsww: er... ok. if an MMO is defined to be a game, and wikipedia is not a game...
06:19.16Bagginswwah hmm...
06:19.20Bagginswwlots of mmos
06:20.45Bagginswwand try looking up massively multiuser online, you'll find hits that have nothing to do with games ;)
06:21.04BagginswwWikipedia isn't the end all and be all of word defining :p
06:21.44Bagginswwyes isn't english language "grand" cough spit :p
06:22.00Sky2042wrong person
06:22.06Bagginswwno prob
06:22.07Sky2042Kirkburn: you will fix after, yes?
06:22.39Kirkburno_O Those didn't show up ... gah
06:23.35Sky2042Kirkburn: don't worry. all of them should have a link at [[zone]]. so once you're done, you just have to edit [[zone]] once.
06:23.52Sky2042well, most of them anyway. i've done a few of the map
06:26.34Sky2042Kirkburn: of course they didn't show up. they're physicaly linked rather than used as images.
06:27.04KirkburnYeah, fixing now
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06:31.48Sky2042catches up to pcj.
06:32.29Sky2042pcj: don't worry about template:spell:x links. i can get those from special:brokenredirects if i need to.
06:34.14Sky2042Kirkburn: also, [[zone]] (you only dun [[maps]])
06:36.09Sky2042chuckles at Kirkburn.
06:38.54Sky2042also, Kirkburn, leave a note for a wikia person to see to :(
06:39.01Sky2042they missed a few last time.
06:40.59KirkburnCan you add to WW:SR, I'll bring it up
06:42.26KirkburnDone Zone :)
06:43.34Sky2042you should be good otherwise.
06:49.18Sky2042Bagginsww: is it draenei or draenic for the language?
06:49.32Bagginswwunless something has changed
06:49.37Bagginswwif so list boff
06:50.00Sky2042Bagginsww: nothing
06:50.07Sky2042nothing's changed
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08:12.49KirkburnYay, I totally missed that Beyond Good & Evil 2 is coming :)
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08:27.00Osehai hai
08:35.49Ose :P
08:37.48Sky2042Ose: haha
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09:47.05KirochiHi there
09:47.35KirochiI'm looking for that WoW Furbolg model which is white with black spots, just like a pandaren
09:47.52Kirochithere was a picture of it on wowwiki a while ago, on a green background
09:48.07Adys[06:42:37] <Kirkburn> Adys, what was the safari corner code?
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09:55.42Ose|afkKirochi: checked the model viewer?
09:58.22Kirochiwell as no one answered I've just started the process to reinstall wow and the model viewer :/
09:58.59KirochiOh here here
09:59.08Kirochia friend had the wmv and showed me the skin
09:59.13Kirochilooks great !
09:59.30KirochiI'll morph my character into this guy at the WWI
10:03.48Kirochi(I need to tell blizzard everything I want them to give me, they're being very painful checking all we're doing on their server)
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10:35.29Kirochiwell baggins
10:40.06g0urraHey Kirochi
10:42.12Kirochihey gourra
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10:54.02Kirkburng0urra, Baggins, stop pinging me
10:54.52KirkburnIt's just a bloomin' article :)
10:55.19BagginswwSomeone would think I was causing the apocalypse...
10:55.38Kirochiabout the en fuego phrase
10:56.44Kirkburng0urra, even admins don't know everything, and Bagginsww, one always has to be careful
10:57.12Bagginswwanyways I'm through for the night
10:57.15Bagginswwgnight all
10:59.29g0urraso is it going to be "Dragonmaw Clan" or "Dragonmaw clan"?
10:59.49AdysKirkburn: i pinged you too :(
11:00.03KirkburnAdys, no you didn't o_O
11:00.10Adys[11:48:07] <Adys> [06:42:37] <Kirkburn> Adys, what was the safari corner code?
11:00.10Adys[11:48:12] <Adys> -webkit-border-radius
11:00.15KirkburnOh that
11:00.16Adysfix your highlighting regex
11:00.51Kirkburng0urra, good question, don't know
11:01.09KirkburnOther clans do appear to be in capitals though
11:01.47KirkburnIn fact, they all are ... so Clan appears more correct atm
11:03.27AdysCAPS WTF
11:03.35AdysKirochi: merci pour la note btw
11:03.59Kirochila note ?
11:04.12g0urraalso, I like this note on the Special:Movepage: "You are responsible for making sure that links continue to point where they are supposed to go."
11:04.12Adyssur fb >>
11:04.32Adyspour mon anniv crétin. :(
11:04.40Kirochiolol ça fait un bail
11:04.48Adysouais bah faut etre online
11:04.53Adysje reponds pas sur facebook moi
11:05.33Kirochien tout cas ça venait du coeur
11:06.17Adysouais tu me rappellera de viser le coeur la prochaine fois que je tires
11:06.49KirkburnAdys, added to tooltips and MP design
11:06.56Kirochitiens sinon
11:06.59Adyscheers Kirkburn
11:07.02Kirochitu viendras me voir à mon stand ?
11:07.04Kirochià la wwi
11:07.13Adysouais pour te casser la gueule probablement
11:07.39KalrothAdys, je n'ai pas encore douchés!
11:08.09Kirochitain en mode gentil
11:08.19Adyseh oui
11:08.26Kirochim'en fous d'abord
11:08.37Kirochij'aurai des gardes du corps
11:08.50Adysqui ca? bibi et sa ptite copine? ^^
11:09.10Bibi`j'y vais  pas a la WWI
11:09.32Adysje sais pas toi mais ca m'etonnerais que ta petite amie y aille. ^^
11:09.36KalrothBibi got a girlfriend?!
11:09.42Adysno thats the entire point
11:09.54Bibi`I could get one within a hour.
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11:10.22KalrothBibi`: that's how close Adys lives to you?!
11:10.22BagginswwI was going to watch a dvd, but I guess I'll say a few things
11:10.27Adys36 15 PUTEGRATUITE ?
11:10.35BagginswwKirkburn btw, tribe and clan is generally lower case in newer books
11:10.38Adysca existe plus le minitel Bibi`!
11:10.51Bagginswwespecially in the the three Player's Guide books
11:10.57Bagginswwand the new dark factions
11:11.18KalrothMon jardin est délicieux
11:11.40KirkburnBagginsww, fair, but it's something that should really be talked about on wiki, and all done at once
11:11.58Bagginswwmost articles were already lower case :p
11:12.16KalrothBibi comme lorsque je lubrifie l'action <- My french is good!
11:12.20BagginswwI was justh following what I saw was being used :p
11:12.31KirkburnBagginsww, they aren't ...
11:12.47Bagginswwgourra is actually moving them right now it seems, or a few
11:12.53Bagginswwthe ones I had come across in the last month
11:13.03KirkburnAll the orc clans are uppercase
11:13.10Bibi`n'empeche t'as vu
11:13.14Bibi`c'était la mort totale sur le chan
11:13.18Bibi`tu parles de Bibi, paf, 10 personnes
11:13.44Bibi`ah ben non.
11:13.50BagginswwI was speaking of the troll tribes since you mentioned both tribes and clans
11:14.04KirkburnNo, you mentioned tribes :P
11:14.13KirkburnI just said clans :)
11:14.23Bagginswwoh ya I mentioned it noticed gourra was changing it
11:14.33Bagginswwso thought you were discussing the change in here :p
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11:15.15KirkburnNah, go to bed :)
11:15.26Kirochiback to "one night of pleasure and three months of pain relationships" for me
11:15.28Bagginswwor watch the movie as I planned LOL
11:15.45Kirochibursts into tears
11:16.03Bagginswwkirochi its probably more exciting than no months of pleasure, and zero pain...
11:16.25BagginswwDo you have access to warcraft III handy?
11:17.12KirochiIf I have W3?
11:17.28BagginswwI have it, I just can't install it :p
11:17.36Kirochiwell I got the box
11:17.38Bagginswwanycase I see someone's adding the maps from the game
11:17.47Kirochiit's just not installed on this one pc
11:17.50g0urraYou mean loading screens
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11:17.59Bagginswwwell they are maps
11:18.35Kirochiwow, frantically browing RC
11:18.45Kirochithat's what baggins is made of :p
11:18.51Bagginswwmaybe they should get a map category if htye haven't gotten them already?
11:19.03g0urra[[Category:Warcraft III loading screens]]
11:19.04Dottedg0urra meant:
11:19.25Bagginswwya, that category is good, but a map category would be handy too, I'm always trying to find those dang maps :p
11:19.34Bagginswwsorry for cussing :p
11:19.49g0urraWell, one tip when uploading maps would be to categorize them right away
11:19.52Bagginswwgenerally speaking that's about as far as I cuss LOL
11:20.04Bagginswwya I know I've missed a few :p
11:20.12Bagginswwbut those were ones I was using for a single talk page
11:20.17Bagginswwnot plannin gon using them anywhere else
11:20.56Bagginswwalso I can't for the life of me find the maps from WArcraft II act screens
11:21.01Bagginswwwithout the text
11:21.42g0urraI think it's the same loading screen for all chapters in one campaign, heh
11:22.44KirochiAw, thought I'd be delighted by this chat, folks, but I can't handle the sadness now
11:22.47Bagginswwactually there were one for each act. Closeups on the area the act takes place
11:23.00Kirochibye bye
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11:25.28Bagginsww an example there
11:26.36BagginswwI don't remember if that act text fades in or is there automatically
11:27.08Bagginswwalthough I do think the blue text is seperate from the artwork, as I've seen sites with just the map only. But can't find any links to them right now
11:29.05g0urraI could start up my WC2, take a screenshot and upload it
11:30.12BagginswwI just hope it has a fade in for that blue text, otherwise you might need to access the files somehow :p
11:30.51Bagginswwwould be nice if their was a way to get to the loading screen maps without the loading bar blocking the picture
11:33.59g0urraWell that's anti-climactic, I can't choose campaign chapters in WC2 as in WC3
11:34.10Bagginswwuse cheat code ;)
11:34.23Bagginswwthere is a level skip code
11:36.58g0urraToo bad I can't run WC2 in windowed mode, heh
11:37.39Bagginswwhmm thought it did...?
11:37.57Bagginswworiginal or
11:38.42g0urraI lost the original
11:39.05g0urrathough I have the original manual hehe
11:40.49g0urraheh, appearantly the town of Hillsbrad got "decimated" in WC2
11:41.17Bagginswwsomeone still needs to add the loading text in those battle articles. Yes I know you can just read the pictures though, LOL.
11:43.34Bagginswwya, I added that info two days ago
11:43.50g0urraStratholme got "destructed" too heh
11:43.58Bagginswwheh heh
11:44.17Bagginswwit works for stratholme its the only way to explain why it went form the shores of lordamere lake
11:44.21Bagginswwto its currrent location
11:44.35Bagginswwbut you have to ignore its location in Warcraft iii though
11:44.56Bagginswwit was in western plaguelands in WArcraft III, lol
11:45.16Bagginswwonly way to explain that is if the city was large enough that it stretched into both areas :p
11:46.46BagginswwI've discovered that there is an interlockign story between the two campaigns  although later sources retconned certain details
11:47.12Bagginswwfor example the act 1 and act 2 fit together almost flawlessly
11:47.45Bagginswwthe battles don't occur in the exact same spots, or one makes reference to something that happened in the other. So you can tell which order they would fit chronologically
11:49.59Bagginswwonce thing I noticed was first chapter of the next act will either acknowledge something that happened in the oppossing campaign, or it will say how great a success happened in the previous campaign if its the winning side. However if the opposing side wins, then the losing side generally will not comment on any success or failure, and just move on into the new area
11:50.50Bagginswwan example of the latter is second act, humans actually push orcs out of Khaz Modan by the end of the act
11:51.13Bagginswwthey acknowledge their win in act 3 chapter 1
11:51.47Bagginswwhowever act 3 chapter one of horde campaign doesn't comment on a win or lose, instead it just goes into a new location without acknowleding the previous location
11:52.15g0urragod damnit, I can't save screenshots when in full screen mode
11:52.17Bagginswwimplying that htey probably were pushed out.
11:52.26Bagginswwoh you need a special screen capture software
11:52.44BagginswwI can't think of one off the top of my head that I used for shots
11:53.12Bagginswwbut you need one that will allow you to bind a screen capture key to the program
11:53.14g0urraWell, it would be fine if I could run in windowed mode, but then I found this
11:53.56BagginswwI think you can force it into a window if you use one of those dosbox style programs
11:54.10Bagginswwscumm vr or some such
11:54.32Bagginswwruns very slowly but good for screen capture
11:54.53Bagginswwall though its a pain to force it to run windows programs from what I could remember
12:10.35Valexanarranyone know how much season 2 stuff will cost with honor/marks yet
12:16.32g0urra"Ner'zhul, [...] his brown eyes"
12:17.42Bagginswwinteresting I'll have to read that later
12:23.14KirkburnHey, editcount got updated
12:23.35KirkburnShows per wiki and all Wikia
12:23.51KirkburnApparently I've made more edits off WoWWiki now o_O
12:24.16g0urraKirkburn, lol 24,993 :p
12:24.37Bagginswwalmost 40,000, LOL
12:24.41KirkburnI'm going by Foxbot's count :P
12:25.09g0urra14,404, heh
12:25.26g0urra16407,279 This user employs peasants to count his contributions.
12:27.32Bagginswwwhat's the highest club number?
12:28.03g0urraonly Varghedin is in it :p
12:28.22BagginswwI'm in no hurry :p
12:28.43BagginswwI'd already have been there if I did't have other priorities though LOL
12:31.17KirkburnApparently those priorities don't involve watching your film, or leaving anywhere near when you said you were :P
12:44.33BagginswwLOL, ya I can't sleep.
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12:55.08Mortigonwow, it's quite this morning
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13:13.41pcjwhat ose
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13:39.57Lukian_Kael'thas Sunstrider dies, you gain 5348 experience. (+2674 exp Rested bonus, +764 group bonus)
13:39.58Lukian_epic :D
13:40.34Lukian_I took my 69 warlock in :D
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14:00.29ralf-xscrew you
14:01.43foxlit+ group bonus? what gives@
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14:04.11ralf-xtaht's always been there?
14:07.21foxlityes, but wonder why :)
14:07.28ralf-xyea I don't know
14:13.17Ose|afkhas an GameCard :D
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14:20.05Krapswouldn't engineering be the preferred prof. for a rouge, especially if they were specing for subtility?
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16:37.19Fisker-win: :D
16:43.18AckisWorkslaps Fisker- around with a large stinky trout.
16:50.51Fisker-i will destroy you
16:51.20AckisWorkyou smell like fish
16:51.53Lukianlike fisk?
16:52.07AckisWorkfisker fish
16:52.13Fisker-i am going to destroy you
16:52.21AckisWorksniffs you
16:52.35Lukian* AckisWork dies from the smell
16:52.43LukianFisker-, mission success!
16:52.56AckisWorkFisker-: close your legs! pwwnt!
16:53.26AckisWorkstruts around watching Fisker- cry
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17:08.19pcjwtf are you doing g0urra
17:08.27g0urraI'd like to ask you the same
17:08.46pcji'm deprecating spelllink and getting rid of the spell pseudo-namespace
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17:09.25pcjBecause it shouldn't exist
17:09.29pcjIt's neither content nor a template
17:11.15g0urraOh, I'm sorry, I was not aware that you could do that without telling anyone about it, neither on the IRC or on the VP
17:11.20g0urraGo have fun then pcj
17:11.23pcjUh, we've talked about it several times
17:11.39Gourra|awayLink, and I'll be convinced.
17:12.38pcjand again last night on IRC
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17:38.44ralf-xwhat is defense rating worth at 69?
17:38.57ralf-xI'm trying to figure out what my defense skill will be at  when I ding 70 with this gear
17:39.02ralf-xany clue how to find that out? :P
17:39.23Dottedfoxlit meant:
17:39.42foxlit[[Combat Rating]]
17:39.42Dottedfoxlit meant:
17:41.50ralf-xnot exactly giving what I'm looking for
17:42.03ralf-xalways assumes level 60 or 70
17:44.13ralf-xok nm looks like this one is for dodge
17:44.39foxlitSo you need 2.37 defense rating to give you 1 defense skill at 70
17:44.47foxlitFigure out how much defense rating you have now
17:44.55foxlitdivide by 2.37, and you've got your defense skill at 70.
17:45.01foxlitWhat _were_ you looking for?
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17:45.46ralf-xyea, I'm not clear what my def rating from gear is at the moment
17:45.53ralf-xarmory doesn't make it too obvious
17:45.59foxlitlink armory page?
17:46.30ralf-xDefense Rating 250 (+111 Defense)
17:47.02foxlitYou have 250 defense rating, which in turn gives you +111 defense skill
17:47.09foxlitat 70, you'd have
17:47.20ralf-xthat's the part I didn't follow
17:47.21foxlitdefense skill
18:07.23ralf-xlooks like I'll be at 487.4 def when I ding 70, and slap felsteel on :)
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18:17.37ralf-xif I have a BOE helm, and put a BC Head enchant on it, does it become soulbound?
18:21.16ralf-xdamn :(
18:36.02ralf-xhmm. stupid question
18:36.36ralf-xhow hard is it to write an addon that adds text to the stat window of armor pieces?
18:56.07Fisker-caps fuck yeah!
18:56.44g0urra >_>
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18:57.41ralf-xnever heard of moar boars
18:57.48ralf-xI've heard of more cowbell though
18:58.13ralf-xand I often request it
18:58.43g0urraMOAR BOAR
18:59.06ralf-xwhat is that an angry walrus?
18:59.19g0urraIt's a LION GET IN THE CAR OH MY GOD
19:00.56foxlithrm, pcj
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19:02.50pcjno u
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19:03.21foxlitdamn you, slowiki!
19:06.08foxlitI think I might be able to help with something
19:06.34pcjremoving spelllink?
19:09.57foxlitOnly 2.9k pages!
19:13.27foxlitand most of those are boss transclusions
19:14.49foxlitWell, there are only so many bosses :)
19:16.15pcjlike template calls
19:16.56g0urrafoxlit: why does it remove stack=?
19:17.06foxlitBecause armory did not contain stack data for that item
19:17.14g0urraI see.
19:18.23foxlitAnd that's an apparent bug
19:18.29foxlit!stop WItem
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19:20.20foxlit!item [tiponly] Gurubashi Mojo Madness
19:20.32FoxbotTooltip saved, foxlit, view at
19:21.06g0urraWhat's with the {{{tpl|}}} btw?
19:24.24foxlitIt's nice :)
19:26.27g0urraWhat does it do?
19:26.38foxlitWhat it says on the tin
19:28.17foxlitallows you to pipe data into other templates than tooltip
19:29.24pcjbecause everyone wants to do that
19:30.12foxlitHas its uses :)
19:30.28foxlitIf it was global, you wouldn't need that tooltip change, for example
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19:38.11pcjfoxlit is it replacing spelllink in set pages too
19:38.46Fisker-you forgot a questionmark
19:38.47foxlitIt's not even replacing spelllink, per se
19:38.48Fisker-omg blasphemy
19:42.21Fisker-so hopefully some diablo 3 confirmation tomorrow :o
19:43.45pcji heard it's getting bundled with duke nukem forever
19:44.06Fisker-DNF is coming out earlier than D3 i think
19:44.51Fisker-D3, SC2 and WotLK may be a bit too much for fans in one year :P
19:47.57ralf-xomg srsly
19:48.17Fisker-haha at the first link
19:48.54pcjnow that's a picture
19:49.09g0urralol, I just looked up the Barov Peasant Caller effect, which is called "Death by Peasants".. hmm
19:50.59Jimdinventorheh, yup
19:51.21g0urraThen pcj shows that article :p
19:51.33JimdinventorThat is very cool, but a bit unfortunate for AddOns that are trying to match effects to the items that sourced them.
19:54.20pcj"in at least one case offering 10 for $2,000"
19:54.22pcj"on Monday, Apple unveiled a $199 model."
19:54.29pcjuh some of their customers weren't very smart
19:55.18g0urra"and got the would-be customers to show up at desolate locations in Flatbush, East Flatbush and Flatlands."
19:56.25pcj"Pope Benedict gave George W. Bush an unprecedented welcome"
19:56.27pcj"As birds chirped, the two entered a restored medieval tower and held 30 minutes of private talks."
19:56.35pcj'Bush asked: "How big is it?" A Vatican aide responded: "Not quite as big as Texas."'
19:58.31Fisker-pcj a iphone is quite more expensive than $199
19:58.43pcjnot according to apple
19:58.58Fisker-The AT&T subscription is expensive like fuck
19:59.16pcjwell i doubt people were buying at&t subscriptions on craigslist
19:59.34kd3what the hell? a flash ad?
19:59.37Fisker-But if you want to buy it in a store you'll have to get the AT&T subscription
20:00.00Fisker-so it's $199 and an AT&T subscription to get an iphone
20:02.20Fisker-the iphone is going to be so expensive here :D
20:02.37Fisker-probably around $200-300 a month in subscription fees :D
20:02.47OlisonWhere's here?
20:03.13OlisonJeebus, $250, I really wouldn't do that!
20:03.18OlisonWould you Fisker-? :o
20:03.40Fisker-i wouldn't get the phone even for the $200
20:03.58Fisker-unless i could sell it for more of course
20:06.37pcjon craigslist?
20:07.45Fisker-i don't use craigslist
20:07.58Fisker-i don't even know what it is other than apparently some auction site of some sort
20:08.07pcjclassified ads site really
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20:27.56g0urranotice how the RC list got notably shorter
20:29.32Sky2042grins wickedly.
20:33.37JimdinventorI seem to recall that Frenzied Regeneration ignores some heal-cutting effects like Mortal Strike.  Am I remembering wrong?
20:34.10ralf-xthat's a good question
20:34.49Jimdinventor... seeking any true answer.  But thanks for the validation. :-)
20:35.03ralf-xlol sorry I know that was useless
20:35.10ralf-xbut I don't know the answer to your question
20:39.31g0urrastupid google analytics giving me loading times
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21:08.06Sky2042I'm confused...
21:09.03Sky2042wtf is going on?!
21:09.22Sky2042g0urra: tell me what links here :
21:10.05Sky2042can you check that for me? I can't see a link on that page...
21:10.19Sky2042kicks Dotted.
21:10.19DottedThe WoWWiki job queue length is currently 10162
21:10.28g0urraHah that's strange, the link was red to me before
21:10.29Sky2042i don't see a transclusion either.
21:10.32foxlit"[[User:Ithilian Shadowsong/APB Config]] - Used for"
21:10.50Sky2042foxlit != User:Ithilian/APB Config
21:11.18g0urraLol, that's odd.
21:11.27Sky2042there's no link >_<
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21:13.12Sky2042JSharp: we've got a rogue link
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21:13.40Sky2042the only thing i can think of is a transclusion and the jobqueu's long, but there aren't any in evidence
21:13.44g0urraRouge link? hehe
21:13.50Sky2042g0urra: touche
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21:14.34Sky2042[14:10]<Sky2042>can you check that for me? I can't see a link on that page...
21:14.39Sky2042* Sky2042kicks Dotted.
21:14.40Sky2042<Dotted>The WoWWiki job queue length is currently 10162
21:14.42Sky2042<g0urra>Hah that's strange, the link was red to me before
21:14.43Sky2042<Sky2042>i don't see a transclusion either.
21:14.45Sky2042<foxlit>"[[User:Ithilian Shadowsong/APB Config]] - Used for"
21:14.46Sky2042<Sky2042>foxlit != User:Ithilian/APB Config
21:14.48Sky2042[14:11]<g0urra>Lol, that's odd.
21:14.49g0urrahax hax
21:14.50Sky2042<Sky2042>there's no link >_<
21:16.52pcjyes special:whatlinkshere is a bit slow to update
21:17.00pcji've noticed that with the spelllink stuff
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21:18.00JSharpSky2042, so, what's wrong?
21:18.08JSharpthe whatlinks here is just old?
21:18.20Sky2042there's a link on whatlinkshere but there's no link
21:25.09Fisker-spellpower is overpowered Sky2042 btw
21:25.12Sky2042g0urra: deleted category you made. we decided at ZCP not to subcat that.
21:25.25Sky2042Fisker-: eh?
21:25.43g0urraLol never seen that before
21:26.36g0urraJesus. Why did Varghedin make Category:City:<city>?
21:26.53Sky2042he didn't
21:26.58Sky2042oh way back when?
21:27.09Sky2042who knows.
21:27.22g0urraWay back in 2005, heh
21:28.36g0urrasky you might want to look at [[Category:Deeprun Tram mobs]] too
21:28.42g0urra[[Category:Deeprun Tram mobs]]
21:28.43Dottedg0urra meant:
21:28.52Fisker-i'm sexually harassing you
21:31.15g0urraand Sky2042, it's actually a 4-person category. I'm just going through the Quest Giver category
21:31.39Sky2042um..., see the talk page of ZCP.
21:31.49Sky2042i'm sure varg gave a good explanation
21:34.31g0urraI just looked, and found nothing
21:37.58Bagginswwso ya I found it cool how the section of the maps in Warcraft II representing hillsbrad can overlap
21:38.10Bagginswwsame ring of trees in both
21:38.15Bagginswwjust the scale is different
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21:40.37JSharpSky2042, ah, I see.. hmm well, the whatlinkshere is probably cached so it may take a while to be updated
21:41.06Sky2042the other link i removed just prior to it was uncached really fast... but i'll check it in a couple hours.
21:43.26Bagginswwalthough strangely I can't check but I think they placed the horde starting area in that circle of trees for the prison attack LOL
21:43.39BagginswwRaid on Hillsbrad
21:43.47Bagginswwbut later used it to represent the town
21:44.32Bagginswwsort of implies that the town grew into that area
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22:20.53g0urraJimdinventor, you can just use "range=5 yd" instead of "rangeunit" too
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22:32.16g0urra"57,103 articles on this wiki" yay!
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22:38.38g0urra well that's interesitng
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23:27.07g0urraThat's pretty cool.
23:36.43foxlitkewl, surely?
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23:42.24g0urracasts Blessing of Tissue
23:42.47Camicioi just sniff it up again
23:44.40g0urrarolls his eyes
23:47.43Kirkburn|afkpcj, I don't understand the player category deletions
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