| 00:01.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Isn't it fun when someone poitns out something in front of your eyes that you didn't notice - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Ref_or_Cite.3F |
| 00:37.08 | pcj | *points |
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| 02:10.17 | Sky2042_afk | Kirkburn|afk: lol, well either works; i'd consider cite to be more of a 1 or 2 piece citation, while ref should be used in multi-citation pieces. |
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| 04:04.06 | Arcanedeath | prepare for a mass exodus http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1218 |
| 04:06.40 | Olison | The Before thing looks really cool |
| 04:07.49 | Arcanedeath | They added testure lol |
| 04:07.54 | Arcanedeath | texture* |
| 04:09.14 | Sky2042_afk | Arcanedeath: zomg mass exodus. |
| 04:09.54 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 04:10.13 | Arcanedeath | It's really annoying, if we are in the vandalism channel we can't change nicks |
| 04:10.38 | Sky2042 | Arcanedeath: ? |
| 04:10.46 | pcj | that's because you're not voiced |
| 04:10.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Added you to the list |
| 04:11.02 | Arcanedeath | thanks |
| 04:11.20 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn|sleep, why don't i have an access of 10 in cvn? |
| 04:11.34 | pcj | because adys added you |
| 04:11.38 | pcj | and he only has 10 |
| 04:11.50 | Adys | yea |
| 04:11.57 | Sky2042 | jaha |
| 04:11.59 | Sky2042 | ty kirk |
| 04:12.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | Sorted |
| 04:12.55 | pcj | why is starnestommy defined twice |
| 04:13.46 | Arcanedeath | That popular applet irc client bugs out of you /names |
| 04:13.55 | Arcanedeath | doubles every nickname |
| 04:13.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | pcj, removed the dupes |
| 04:14.47 | Arcanedeath | Gah The last Alterac keeps vandalising a talk page because he is embarrased |
| 04:15.13 | Sky2042 | Just leave a note on his talk page asking him to stop removing the section |
| 04:15.33 | Sky2042 | lol, bad Kirkburn|sleep |
| 04:15.36 | Sky2042 | see #wikia |
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| 04:17.28 | Arcanedeath | laptop batteries -_- |
| 04:17.38 | Sky2042 | l2acpower,nub |
| 04:18.59 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 04:19.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wonder how I can change my own entry on the access lists |
| 04:20.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | Meh, I'm off to sleep |
| 04:20.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | G'night all! |
| 04:20.11 | pcj | night |
| 04:20.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Btw, I would say if Alterac wants the discussion gone, let him |
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| 04:22.20 | Arcanedeath | ok |
| 04:22.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'll edit |
| 04:24.05 | Arcanedeath | already did before I saw that |
| 04:24.13 | Arcanedeath | but you got there first |
| 04:24.17 | Arcanedeath | :P |
| 04:26.00 | Arcanedeath | How do I get the API to serve me xml instead of "the HTML representation of the XML format." |
| 04:26.14 | Sky2042 | hahaha |
| 04:26.30 | Arcanedeath | lol |
| 04:26.33 | Sky2042 | have you looked through the documentation? |
| 04:26.40 | Arcanedeath | yes but not all of it |
| 04:26.41 | Sky2042 | (I haven't, just wondering) |
| 04:27.14 | pcj | arcanedeath: xml, not xmlfm |
| 04:28.43 | Arcanedeath | Where is that? the url looks like: http://www.wowwiki.com/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:World%20of%20Warcraft%20leather%20items&cmlimit=500 |
| 04:29.32 | pcj | action=query&format=xml |
| 04:29.41 | Arcanedeath | ty |
| 04:30.08 | Arcanedeath | An xsl file would work fine instead of serving it as html |
| 04:30.19 | Laraul | where he go? |
| 04:30.23 | Laraul | Charitwo? |
| 04:30.35 | Arcanedeath | "charit"? |
| 04:30.46 | Arcanedeath | oops nvm |
| 04:30.58 | Arcanedeath | ignore me I'm not making sence |
| 04:31.08 | Arcanedeath | sense* |
| 04:31.22 | Arcanedeath | I press enter too fast. |
| 04:32.26 | Sky2042 | Laraul: whatever issues you're having with him, please take them elsewhere. |
| 04:32.35 | Sky2042 | Laraul: in either case, he logged off. |
| 04:32.47 | Sky2042 | about an hour ago. |
| 04:35.30 | Laraul | Umm... I discovered Charitwo has for well over a year now been just deleting peoples work on whim giving some excuse or something... he's basically destroying what people who want to help spends hours working on in without any conderations other than like it violates the policies or w/e and this causes these people who might be long time contribures to lash out... |
| 04:35.50 | pcj | knock it off laraul |
| 04:36.14 | Laraul | Okay i will show you his history and what i mean.... this *really* scares me |
| 04:36.21 | Arcanedeath | wikidrama |
| 04:36.24 | Sky2042 | Laraul: if you have issues with it, and specific diffs of it, i'd suggest (at most) emailing a staff user or gaming helper. |
| 04:36.45 | Sky2042 | At the least, email another administrator of the wiki where this is ocurring. |
| 04:36.53 | Laraul | I wish it were just me okay |
| 04:36.54 | Sky2042 | With the same items. |
| 04:37.13 | Sky2042 | I don't care if it's just you or not, this is WoWWiki, not FFXIcyclopedia. |
| 04:37.43 | Arcanedeath | Is this a good example? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Altar_of_Storms_US&diff=prev&oldid=1339927 |
| 04:38.12 | Sky2042 | Arcanedeath: huh? |
| 04:38.42 | Laraul | okay *plz* look at this |
| 04:38.43 | Laraul | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Charitwo&page= |
| 04:38.47 | Arcanedeath | lol that was a joke |
| 04:39.57 | Sky2042 | The first 10 deletions look fine. You're going to need to do better than that. Again, don't bring it up here. |
| 04:40.00 | Arcanedeath | so, I see him deleting spam and vandalism |
| 04:40.33 | Laraul | Er wait |
| 04:40.48 | Laraul | Umm... |
| 04:40.58 | Arcanedeath | Most of these are old versions of images |
| 04:41.22 | Arcanedeath | most of the rest are innapropriate user pages, and the rest is spam |
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| 04:42.08 | Laraul | Er Here look at some of the comments on the user page |
| 04:42.09 | Laraul | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/User:Charibot |
| 04:43.26 | Sky2042 | unprotections look fine. the reversion is a little iffy (should have undone), but that depends on wiki policy. |
| 04:43.35 | Arcanedeath | go back to the talk pages of those people, look at http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/User:Relicant |
| 04:43.36 | Laraul | Yes look at this |
| 04:43.38 | Laraul | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADeaddack&diff=505544&oldid=478982 |
| 04:44.15 | pcj | no, laraul, this channel is not your soapbox |
| 04:44.20 | Sky2042 | agreed. |
| 04:44.22 | pcj | Please take this elsewhere |
| 04:44.28 | Sky2042 | On threat of kick. |
| 04:45.10 | Laraul | Can I plz talk to one of you personally than |
| 04:45.30 | pcj | No |
| 04:45.44 | Sky2042 | No. If you want to talk with someone, use the Special:Emailuser on ffxi with another admin. |
| 04:46.06 | Sky2042 | Or do so with a wikia community team member. |
| 04:46.35 | Arcanedeath | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Irc-url |
| 04:46.41 | Laraul | There is no communty realy it's not like wowwiki |
| 04:46.54 | Laraul | No one is ever in there |
| 04:46.59 | Laraul | In that channel |
| 04:47.05 | Laraul | On no one discusses the wike |
| 04:47.27 | Laraul | It's like no one cares |
| 04:47.41 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.08 | Arcanedeath | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Administrators |
| 04:48.14 | Arcanedeath | talk to them |
| 04:48.32 | Sky2042 | sighs at Arcanedeath. |
| 04:48.49 | Laraul | Meirlin is gone |
| 04:48.59 | Arcanedeath | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.15 | Laraul | okay okay let me get my mind on something else |
| 04:50.26 | Laraul | Okay umm |
| 04:50.56 | Laraul | There's a lot i want to learn how you run your wiki |
| 04:52.06 | Arcanedeath | I need to learn to be less impulsive in irc chat -_- |
| 04:52.24 | Arcanedeath | Sometimes I just start writing down thoughts as they come to me |
| 04:54.23 | Arcanedeath | Something is wrong with this, the category structure goes "World of Warcraft > Items > World of Warcraft items" |
| 04:55.16 | Laraul | You don't need the third sub catagory |
| 04:55.25 | Arcanedeath | Permision to restructure it? |
| 04:55.59 | Laraul | Or you need to make it a sub catorgory of items like equipment or quest item etc |
| 04:57.34 | Arcanedeath | In the category of items is "warcraft III items" |
| 04:58.55 | Arcanedeath | I think "warcraft III items" should be under the warcraft III category, and items should be a seperate, top level category |
| 04:59.02 | Arcanedeath | I am going to be bold |
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| 05:00.49 | Arcanedeath | Hey, it was already almost structured correctly, taking "Items" out of "world of warcraft" was all that was needed |
| 05:01.28 | Sky2042_ | Arcanedeath: huh? |
| 05:01.44 | Sky2042_ | Arcanedeath: what are you talking about? |
| 05:01.59 | Arcanedeath | Something is wrong with this, the category structure goes "World of Warcraft > Items > World of Warcraft items" |
| 05:02.06 | Arcanedeath | said a while ago |
| 05:02.41 | Laraul | hey btw have any of you played FFXI? I mean FFXI is a console MMO versus WoW which is a PC MMO. |
| 05:02.45 | Sky2042_ | Arcanedeath: well, what do you mean it was structured almost correctly? |
| 05:02.56 | Sky2042_ | oh wait, |
| 05:03.00 | Sky2042_ | reread that. |
| 05:03.22 | Arcanedeath | "world of warcraft items" was in the correct place, only "Items" was out of place |
| 05:04.01 | Sky2042_ | No, it was fine. |
| 05:04.05 | Arcanedeath | This Category system is flexible but complicated |
| 05:04.13 | Laraul | so no huh am i the only one? lol |
| 05:04.13 | Sky2042_ | A loop in a couple places isn't going to kill anyone ;P |
| 05:04.27 | Arcanedeath | no, "items" also contains "warcraft III items" |
| 05:04.47 | Arcanedeath | which is in the warcaft III category too |
| 05:04.58 | Sky2042_ | Sure. but items are more positively associated with WoW, no? |
| 05:05.29 | Arcanedeath | but for consistancy... Your the admin though, want me to revert? |
| 05:05.39 | Sky2042_ | Haha, I already reverted it :P |
| 05:05.44 | Sky2042_ | You're* |
| 05:05.44 | Arcanedeath | kk |
| 05:05.51 | Arcanedeath | heh heh |
| 05:06.44 | Sky2042_ | And no, don't ever leave the question of "reversion" up to an admin. The organization of wiki users is a fair bit flatter than that. In that case, I'm just an editor. |
| 05:07.02 | Arcanedeath | I guess the purpose of the wiki is to make information accesible. We all have OCD tendancies though. |
| 05:07.15 | Sky2042_ | ... You have no idea. |
| 05:07.27 | Arcanedeath | Sorry, I should have put that as you have more experience |
| 05:07.32 | Laraul | I would like to see a video of a battle against a skull type boss |
| 05:07.39 | Arcanedeath | What? |
| 05:07.44 | Sky2042_ | Laraul: in WoW? |
| 05:07.44 | Arcanedeath | That came out of nowhere |
| 05:07.56 | Sky242 | gah |
| 05:07.59 | Laraul | You don;t know i've played it? |
| 05:08.00 | Laraul | WHat? |
| 05:08.09 | Laraul | My account is still active |
| 05:08.23 | Sky2042 | No, I was asking if you wanted to see a video of a boss in WoW. |
| 05:08.31 | Laraul | I don't play it though cuz i just can't use a mouse to play a game |
| 05:08.58 | Sky2042 | anyway, Laraul: http://www.wowwiki.com/Videos_of_boss_kills |
| 05:09.09 | Laraul | thank you |
| 05:15.34 | Arcanedeath | stage6 shut down... |
| 05:18.47 | Laraul | I really think blizz f'd up w/ macros |
| 05:19.01 | Sky2042 | Hmm? |
| 05:19.03 | Arcanedeath | in what way? |
| 05:19.18 | Arcanedeath | All my attempts at exploiting them have failed |
| 05:19.43 | Arcanedeath | I so wish I could use createmacro() in combat |
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| 05:20.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Weight#Weight_Table |
| 05:20.51 | Bagginsww | so anyone know how to read that? |
| 05:20.52 | Laraul | Blizzard should have allowed every action to be excuted from the console input |
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| 05:21.28 | Laraul | They should have made it simple and intuitive to write macros |
| 05:21.35 | Bagginsww | how to do those calculations? |
| 05:22.38 | Arcanedeath | 2d6 means roll a sixe sided die two times |
| 05:22.46 | Arcanedeath | six* |
| 05:22.57 | Sky2042 | haha |
| 05:23.08 | Arcanedeath | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice_notation |
| 05:23.28 | Laraul | why not... /roll |
| 05:23.38 | Laraul | why not... /roll |
| 05:23.46 | Laraul | sorry |
| 05:23.59 | Laraul | basically six lines of /roll |
| 05:24.30 | Arcanedeath | because dice notation is an accepted format for representing random numbers? |
| 05:24.52 | Laraul | yeah but /roll is a *word* |
| 05:25.43 | Arcanedeath | what? |
| 05:26.33 | Laraul | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.47 | Bagginsww | ok I was right |
| 05:26.52 | Arcanedeath | ok |
| 05:26.54 | Bagginsww | but I interpreted what it was saying on the graph wrong |
| 05:26.56 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 05:27.14 | Bagginsww | thus those insane calculations of 4ton tauren :p |
| 05:27.33 | Bagginsww | which I thought were crazy before but couldn't figure out why in the world the rpg would have such weight :p |
| 05:27.39 | Arcanedeath | Laraul, "/roll 1 12" != 2d6 |
| 05:27.42 | Sky2042 | 2d6 would be /random 1-6 twice |
| 05:27.46 | Arcanedeath | yes |
| 05:27.52 | Sky2042 | not /random 1-12 once. |
| 05:27.59 | Sky2042 | rules of probability don't work like that. |
| 05:28.20 | Arcanedeath | it has the same posible outcomes of /roll 1 12 but they have different probabilities |
| 05:28.25 | Sky2042 | unless you can somehow program the random 1-12 to give correct weight to each of the two dice outcomes. |
| 05:28.29 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 05:28.29 | Laraul | why would you need to specify a range? |
| 05:28.49 | Sky2042 | because that's what 2d6 means? |
| 05:29.24 | Laraul | but why do you need a range? why not just generate a number 0-100 |
| 05:29.39 | Arcanedeath | Do you understand probability |
| 05:29.43 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 05:29.52 | Sky2042 | leaves Arcanedeath to attempt to explain it. |
| 05:30.01 | Sky2042 | Well, you could do it with 0-100 i guess. :/ |
| 05:30.05 | Sky2042 | 1-100* |
| 05:30.19 | Sky2042 | But it's inherently less accurate then a simple 1-6 |
| 05:30.47 | Bagginsww | then you have those dPercent die |
| 05:31.05 | Bagginsww | I had to actually look that one up :p |
| 05:31.08 | Laraul | how is 2d6 used? i thought it was just usefull when lotting on item |
| 05:31.50 | Arcanedeath | It means you roll a six sided die twice and add up the results |
| 05:32.11 | Arcanedeath | it will be statisticly weighted to give you answers closer to the middle of the range |
| 05:32.25 | Sky2042 | I e, 7. |
| 05:32.38 | Sky2042 | 6 and 8 less, 5 and 9 lesser, and so forth. |
| 05:32.56 | Arcanedeath | http://www.edcollins.com/backgammon/diceprob.htm |
| 05:33.08 | Sky2042 | 2 is a 1/36 chance and 12 is a 1/36 chance. |
| 05:33.57 | Arcanedeath | From the WoW forums: "where is the OP?" |
| 05:34.31 | Laraul | hold on let me see how they use it in a macro on the wiki... |
| 05:37.33 | Adys | ~seen laurly |
| 05:37.35 | infobot | laurly <n=laurly@0x50a4082e.vgnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 9h 36m 8s ago, saying: 'slow wiki?'. |
| 05:38.50 | laurla1 | now there are 3 |
| 05:39.27 | Larau1 | omg duplicae nick |
| 05:39.47 | arcanedeath | meh that was stupid |
| 05:45.25 | Laraul | okay i'll put it too you this way. you don't want to worry that your macro won't work when you really need it |
| 05:46.44 | Laraul | I mean i was in allas forum yesterday... people didn't understand why their macros were'nt working |
| 05:47.13 | arcanedeath | Right better macros then |
| 05:47.17 | arcanedeath | write* |
| 05:47.19 | arcanedeath | lol |
| 05:47.30 | arcanedeath | @ my spelling error not you |
| 05:47.34 | Laraul | You shouldn't have to even ask |
| 05:48.39 | arcanedeath | about the most common random number system in the mmorpg genre? |
| 05:48.41 | Laraul | macros are more like a script than a macro |
| 05:48.50 | arcanedeath | No they aren't |
| 05:48.50 | Laraul | in wow |
| 05:49.12 | arcanedeath | I can code and I'll tell you, macros are more like irc than anything |
| 05:49.23 | Laraul | yes irc uses scripting |
| 05:49.26 | arcanedeath | because that is what they are lossely based off of |
| 05:50.08 | Laraul | a macro is simply one or more commands executed in linear sequnce |
| 05:50.50 | Laraul | This is a game... |
| 05:51.40 | Laraul | And it has a seperate scripting langauge should you want to have complex evaluations |
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| 05:57.07 | Adys | Arcanedeath, uh yes |
| 05:57.36 | Adys | macros use the same capabilities with some removed and some added to any external addon |
| 06:02.59 | Laraul | Another thing... with an update there is a small potential it will break the macro. |
| 06:05.54 | Sky2042 | arcanedeath: what langauge is your bot? |
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| 06:12.58 | Bagginsww | Mainly heroes ever reach the maximum age, most people on Azeroth will die of disease or of the natural, violent nature of the world before they reach venerable statusWoWRPG 174. |
| 06:12.59 | Bagginsww | fun |
| 06:13.23 | Bagginsww | so your average person dies of old age |
| 06:13.36 | Bagginsww | like around 53 for humans |
| 06:16.40 | Laraul | But there is no defined time... there aren't years, for example... your character doesn't grow taller... |
| 06:17.28 | Sky2042 | lore > gameplay |
| 06:17.46 | Laraul | I really wish though that quests we're more elaborate... had cutscenes |
| 06:22.19 | Bagginsww | sure |
| 06:22.21 | Bagginsww | me too |
| 06:22.27 | Bagginsww | one thing I really like about LOTRO |
| 06:22.31 | Bagginsww | the cutscenes |
| 06:22.37 | Bagginsww | they are all narrated by Gandalf :) |
| 06:22.57 | Bagginsww | I mean they aren't super fancy mainly a flash like video |
| 06:23.28 | Bagginsww | but the narration is spot on |
| 06:25.49 | Laraul | Cutscens in FFXI can be very long |
| 06:26.19 | Bagginsww | http://youtube.com/watch?v=BBG-T2Bcrqo&feature=related |
| 06:26.53 | Laraul | youtube is such horrid res |
| 06:27.35 | Laraul | i have a page on fileplanet with videos of ffxi that i have for i dunno |
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| 07:07.15 | Triox | Does the website have a firefox plugin? Everytime I try installing it I get "Firefox could not download the search plugin" |
| 07:10.10 | Laraul | You guys have mics right? |
| 07:10.26 | Laraul | Wait what site? |
| 07:10.51 | Triox | wowwiki.com |
| 07:11.17 | Laraul | i dunno... do you use the ingame voice chat? |
| 07:11.47 | Triox | What? |
| 07:12.04 | Triox | I'm talking about a search plug in for the firefox web browser :) |
| 07:14.27 | Laraul | yeah i know |
| 07:14.46 | Laraul | I have no idea you would need to use it's inbuilt search |
| 07:15.17 | Triox | Yeah, that's what I usually use. Was just wondering if wowwiki had one. Thanks for the help |
| 07:15.55 | Laraul | You don't use a headset |
| 07:16.15 | Triox | Um...yeah, I do.... |
| 07:16.23 | Triox | Why do you ask? |
| 07:17.04 | Laraul | Well... i just never seem to find ppl wanting to voice cha |
| 07:17.29 | Laraul | what kind of headset? |
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| 07:17.48 | ericb | wasup |
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| 07:18.11 | ericb | what's everyone up to |
| 07:18.16 | Triox | Well, I am at work, so I don't have it with me |
| 07:18.40 | Laraul | Well... i am fixing it up so i can play WoW w/ a 360 controller |
| 07:18.48 | ericb | I have to go to work in 3 hours and I can't sleep for the life of me |
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| 07:24.05 | Kaso | Triox Wowwiki does have a Firefox search plugin |
| 07:24.41 | Kaso | just goto wowwiki main page, open the search dropdown and there is a "Add WoWWiki (English)" |
| 07:25.14 | Triox | Yeah, I do that, but then it says "Firefox could not download the search plugin" |
| 07:26.19 | Kaso | oh hmm |
| 07:26.23 | Triox | yeah |
| 07:27.15 | Kaso | poke Kirkburn|sleep about it when he wakes up, he'll fix iy |
| 07:27.26 | Triox | cool |
| 07:27.41 | Triox | Thanks :) |
| 07:28.45 | Kaso | or you could make a Village Pump post about it too |
| 07:28.55 | Kaso | if you dont fancy hanging around till he gets here |
| 07:30.30 | Triox | eh, we'll see. I don't get off work for another 4 and a half hours |
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| 09:15.02 | Fisker- | ~seen kd3 |
| 09:15.04 | infobot | kd3 <n=kd3@host-12-173-142-252.nctv.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 9d 17h 21m 43s ago, saying: 'ya, shandris just asked about that on VP too'. |
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| 13:28.36 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 13:42.24 | Adys | DuTempete |
| 13:42.27 | Adys | Spammer |
| 13:42.41 | DuTempete | Hehe, I think he's got all his speakers off :P |
| 13:43.42 | DuTempete | Did you hear that, Kirkburn|sleep ? |
| 13:43.51 | DuTempete | I think Kirkburn|sleep has his speakers turned off! |
| 13:44.02 | DuTempete | and that Kirkburn|sleep should wake up |
| 13:44.13 | DuTempete | because it's Kirkburn|sleep's wake-up time... |
| 13:44.23 | DuTempete | as ordained by Kirkburn|sleep |
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| 15:00.41 | Adys | <3 |
| 15:00.52 | Adys | parsing over 20 000 dbc rows per second |
| 15:00.53 | Adys | win |
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| 15:14.51 | pcj | did you write an extension then adys |
| 15:15.12 | Adys | im writing an entire API atm |
| 15:23.04 | Bibi | I don't think we care Adys. |
| 15:23.06 | Bibi | Sorry. |
| 15:23.15 | Adys | i can kick you bibi |
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| 15:45.28 | g0urra | Yay we'll get to see more worgen in WotLK |
| 15:47.07 | g0urra | "Kaplan explained that this was a small example of what the siege vehicle technology can do, and that it is now possible to have multiple players on mounts." yessssss |
| 15:47.21 | Kaso | Sons of Arugal too! we'll have level 83 sons in roaming around the starting zone, woot! |
| 15:49.36 | Adys | haha |
| 15:50.05 | Kaso | Brining back that "first time" feeling to leveling |
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| 15:50.30 | Kaso | http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7408/dsc00006ce7.jpg |
| 15:50.34 | Kaso | I love doing this |
| 15:50.47 | Kaso | it makes the physics part of my brain smile |
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| 15:57.35 | g0urra | slowwiki anyone? |
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| 16:41.50 | g0urra | yay aerial combat in wotlk |
| 16:42.33 | g0urra | http://www.worldofwar.net/wowtv/media/264/Official_WotLK_Movie_May_2008/ |
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| 17:21.27 | Kirkburn | Morning |
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| 17:24.16 | Kaso | Kirkburn, |
| 17:24.37 | Kirkburn | Kaso, |
| 17:25.38 | g0urra | morning Kirkburn |
| 17:25.43 | Kaso | Someone was on this morning complaining that the firefox search plugin install script for wowwiki is broken. If you try to install it tries to goto wowwiki.com/opensearch_desc.php which doesnt exist |
| 17:25.49 | Kirkburn | Oh, yeah |
| 17:26.04 | Kirkburn | It's been reported (for several months) |
| 17:26.18 | Gryphen | like 12+ several |
| 17:26.20 | Gryphen | heh |
| 17:26.37 | g0urra | Orrr just create a bookmark shortcut for the search field |
| 17:26.49 | Kirkburn | Need to pester them regarding that :) |
| 17:26.49 | Kaso | Who can fix that? |
| 17:27.05 | Kirkburn | Oh, one of the techs, they've just been working on bigger issues |
| 17:27.09 | Kaso | ofc |
| 17:27.51 | Kirkburn | But I will pester, it annoys me too |
| 17:28.53 | Kaso | Well just relaying from whoever it was, ive not actually noticed it myself but i dont really use custom search boxes cept wikipedia |
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| 17:41.55 | Arcanedeath | http://pastebin.com/m40d06221 |
| 17:41.59 | Arcanedeath | Teh codez |
| 17:42.58 | Kirkburn | Wow at the new trailer |
| 17:44.57 | Kirkburn | What on earth is that half ruined Ironforge-like place |
| 17:45.12 | Kirkburn | Ulduar is supposed to be untouched |
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| 17:58.40 | Arcanedeath | Anyone looked at codez yet? |
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| 17:59.46 | Bagginsw | its unfortunate that we aren't going to see Uldum before Uldaur :p... It felt like the progress was working that way. |
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| 18:07.17 | foxlit | Arcanedeath: I've glanced at it |
| 18:08.16 | foxlit | That guy doesn't stick around for long enough :( |
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| 18:19.19 | Kirkburn | "When an ally is risen as a ghoul, a pop-up will appear and this ally will have the choice to control the ghoul if he wants to." O_O |
| 18:19.26 | soufron | hello |
| 18:19.37 | Kirkburn | hello too |
| 18:19.44 | Kaso | Kirkburn, thats awesome |
| 18:19.57 | Kirkburn | Bibi, I linked http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=7288.0 on the main page |
| 18:20.08 | Kirkburn | Too awesome not to link :P |
| 18:20.17 | Kirkburn | (at least until RSS feeds are fixed) |
| 18:23.26 | Kirkburn | I like how all raids can now be 10 manned |
| 18:23.36 | Kirkburn | However, I'll probably still be useless enough not to go on any raids. |
| 18:23.52 | Kaso | the 10mans thing is awesome |
| 18:24.43 | Kirkburn | "The new vehicle technology, which introduces physics and handling characteristics - including inertia, turning circle, grip and suspension bounce - to land and airborne vehicles and special mounts." |
| 18:24.54 | g0urra | Aerial combat yaaaaaay |
| 18:24.57 | Kirkburn | I expected cool stuff to be coming, but not quite this much |
| 18:25.18 | g0urra | I'm getting excited thinking of shooting down people |
| 18:25.19 | Kirkburn | lol, 8 passengers per vehicle |
| 18:25.40 | g0urra | that's a whole lot of miniguns and rocket launchers |
| 18:25.45 | g0urra | :P |
| 18:25.48 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 18:26.19 | Kirkburn | I cannot imagine how awesome it'll be to trundle across the tundra on a giant siege weapon with seven other people firing wildly |
| 18:26.27 | g0urra | did you read about arugal too? |
| 18:26.31 | Kirkburn | ayup |
| 18:26.43 | Kirkburn | oh "In Grizzly Hills, you will also find an evil sister city to the Alliance capital, Ironforge" |
| 18:26.59 | Kirkburn | Did wonder about that place |
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| 18:37.45 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww_, Alexstrasza will be in WotLK |
| 18:37.48 | Kirkburn | :D :D :D |
| 18:37.57 | Bagginsww_ | I thought that was known for a while? |
| 18:38.02 | Bagginsww_ | or just a rumor? |
| 18:38.11 | Kirkburn | Confirmed from Warlock |
| 18:38.14 | Bagginsww_ | nice |
| 18:38.15 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Alexstrasza#Wrath_of_the_Lich_King.3F |
| 18:38.19 | Bagginsww_ | how does she appear? |
| 18:38.23 | Kirkburn | ^ |
| 18:39.03 | Bagginsww_ | elf form LOL |
| 18:39.14 | Bagginsww_ | sigh I would have prefered a cavern |
| 18:39.31 | Bagginsww_ | something like her cave in Warlock Adventures |
| 18:39.36 | Bagginsww_ | see her in her true form |
| 18:39.41 | Bagginsww_ | piles of gold around her ;) |
| 18:40.06 | Bagginsww_ | get to talk to her and feel very tiny :) |
| 18:40.20 | Kirkburn | Perhaps that will happen :P |
| 18:40.21 | Bagginsww_ | *Warcraft adventures :p |
| 18:40.29 | Bagginsww_ | warlocks :p |
| 18:40.32 | Kirkburn | There's the possibility of the Chamber of the Aspects appearing |
| 18:40.40 | Bagginsww_ | heh heh |
| 18:40.48 | Bagginsww_ | that just felt outside of the universe to me :p |
| 18:40.58 | Bagginsww_ | like a void |
| 18:41.04 | Bagginsww_ | from what I recall |
| 18:41.22 | Kirkburn | I got the impression it was deep within Azeroth |
| 18:42.09 | Bagginsww_ | well I meant more along the lines I don't remember it being described in great detail. More shadowy nebulous decriptions |
| 18:42.17 | Bagginsww_ | so ya it could be inside the world |
| 18:42.50 | Kirkburn | Giant half-sphere, perfect walls |
| 18:43.00 | Bagginsww_ | Wonders if Malygos will be in his mantid form for part of his fight |
| 18:43.14 | Bagginsww_ | maybe I'm mixing up scenes? |
| 18:43.31 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that'd be interesting, would have to be a new model |
| 18:43.45 | Bagginsww_ | they could uh base it off the mantid art design I suppose |
| 18:43.48 | Bagginsww_ | its close enough |
| 18:43.55 | Kirkburn | mantid art design? |
| 18:44.00 | Bagginsww_ | mantax |
| 18:44.26 | Bagginsww_ | [[Mantaxx]] |
| 18:44.34 | Kirkburn | So not http://todolego.com/tienda/catalog/images/MANTAX%208919.JPG ? |
| 18:44.41 | Bagginsww_ | what no autolinking? |
| 18:44.47 | Bagginsww_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mantaxx |
| 18:44.52 | Kirkburn | Nah, it broke |
| 18:45.16 | Bagginsww_ | I mean just look at the blue one ;) |
| 18:45.41 | Kirkburn | Quite possibly been modelled then |
| 18:45.54 | Kirkburn | Or roughed out at some point |
| 18:46.18 | Bagginsww_ | always a chance that stuff they didn't use for a previous release could be used as inspiration for future releases :) |
| 18:46.41 | Fisker- | btw |
| 18:46.57 | Kirkburn | Holy crap, the HD trailer truly is HD |
| 18:47.04 | Kirkburn | 1280x720 |
| 18:47.12 | Fisker- | err? |
| 18:47.16 | Fisker- | why shouldn't it be? :P |
| 18:47.34 | Kirkburn | Streaming sites sometimes twist the meaning |
| 18:47.36 | Fisker- | Anyone know if all the components of the Death Grip will apply in PvP? |
| 18:47.48 | Kirkburn | To mean "not crappy quality" |
| 18:48.51 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, yes |
| 18:49.01 | Fisker- | you sure? |
| 18:49.02 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:49.03 | Kirkburn | MMO-C said that, iirc |
| 18:49.13 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:49.21 | Fisker- | i'm just wondering if there was any misconception behind it |
| 18:49.25 | Kirkburn | "Blizzard is going to allow players to move mobs in the expansion both with Death Grip, and other knockback/pull abilities. This works on players too, so PvP balance ahoy!" |
| 18:49.27 | Bagginsww_ | its nice to see that the ruen system on the death knights really isn't all that special (semi-mana like) The actual spells appear to be closer to the old Death Knights in style. |
| 18:49.32 | Bagginsww_ | *rune |
| 18:49.44 | Kirkburn | That it specifically said "players", I would have to go with it was an answer to a direct question |
| 18:49.48 | Fisker- | Kirkburn but Death Grip also forces you to attack the target for x seconds |
| 18:49.49 | Bagginsww_ | that is they more or less fight the same |
| 18:50.01 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, which is not unprecedented |
| 18:50.12 | Kirkburn | Mind control can do the same |
| 18:50.21 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:50.32 | Bagginsww_ | so uh ok the death knight's raise dead? can he raise players into undeath? |
| 18:50.39 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 18:50.40 | Fisker- | But they've always refused to add it to taunt for example |
| 18:50.46 | Bagginsww_ | weirndness |
| 18:50.48 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww_, they can even control their own ghoul |
| 18:50.55 | Bagginsww_ | cool |
| 18:51.07 | Fisker- | i wonder how it'll work in a raid |
| 18:51.12 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, well, it's an entirely new class :P |
| 18:51.41 | Bagginsww_ | seems like a possible anti wipe measure if players still can control themselves in undeath mode |
| 18:51.55 | Fisker- | nah |
| 18:51.57 | Fisker- | you're a ghoul |
| 18:51.59 | Fisker- | not a player |
| 18:52.11 | Kirkburn | "Death Knights will also revive an enemy (or ally) as a ghoul to use it as a pet with its own special abilities like a disease-inflicting strike and a stun." |
| 18:52.18 | Bagginsww_ | weird |
| 18:52.25 | Kirkburn | It's like a second chance, but not as powerful |
| 18:52.26 | Bagginsww_ | so when do you get control of yourself again? |
| 18:52.40 | Bagginsww_ | once the ghoul dies? |
| 18:52.41 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww_, you get that option if you're resurrected |
| 18:52.51 | Bagginsww_ | is it on a timer? |
| 18:52.55 | Kirkburn | No idea |
| 18:53.21 | Bagginsww_ | wonders if its close to water elemental in nature |
| 18:53.31 | Kirkburn | I assume you can probably relinquish control of your ghoul and res normally, or upon the ghoul's death, or after a couple of minutes |
| 18:53.41 | Bagginsww_ | what I want to know is how they are fitting them into the story |
| 18:53.47 | Bagginsww_ | why they are changing sides |
| 18:53.55 | Kirkburn | And where do they begin? |
| 18:54.00 | Bagginsww_ | or is it just mechanics |
| 18:54.05 | Fisker- | as far as i know they don't change sides |
| 18:54.15 | Bagginsww_ | they have had to do major retcon in order to explain all the warlocks LOL |
| 18:54.25 | Fisker- | or atleast they contain some aspect of free will which arthas wants them to have |
| 18:54.26 | Bagginsww_ | in the rpg, the "uncorrupted warlock" LOL |
| 18:54.37 | Bagginsww_ | and "Uncorrupted Necromancer" |
| 18:54.57 | Kirkburn | I think he means why do the DK's switch from Scourge to Alliance/Horde |
| 18:55.22 | Bagginsww_ | I mean I would love to play DKs in some kind of psuedo-3rd faction ;) |
| 18:55.23 | Kirkburn | And where do the DK's come from in the first place, where did they grow up, etc |
| 18:55.44 | Bagginsww_ | but it seems they are going to be entering the horde and alliance |
| 18:56.29 | Bagginsww_ | so ya it seems that the chance of an actual necromancer class at this point is likely slim |
| 18:56.31 | g0urra | hm this ghoul thing brings more defintions of griefing |
| 18:56.43 | Bagginsww_ | since this death knight kind of merges the two |
| 18:56.47 | g0urra | you find a dead player, raise him from the dead, then play around with him for 2 minutes |
| 18:56.52 | Bagginsww_ | ya |
| 18:57.04 | g0urra | then on the other hand, the resurrected player can ninja pull etc to kill the player |
| 18:57.05 | g0urra | oh joy |
| 18:57.06 | Fisker- | From what i remember it, you should consider it something like this: You get converted by Arthas (in this case you make a new character as it would've been stupid to let people lose stuff like that), you maintain some aspect of free will, but apparently only because Arthas wants you to, or that his mind is too weak to support the army fully |
| 18:57.21 | Bagginsww_ | put the dead ghoul in a place that a player can't get to |
| 18:57.37 | Fisker- | g0urra i don't think you can expect the enemies players to control it as well |
| 18:57.42 | Fisker- | that would just be stupid |
| 18:57.45 | Bagginsww_ | so he has to resurrect at a graveyard |
| 18:57.46 | Kirkburn | g0urra, the player can control their own ghoul |
| 18:58.08 | g0urra | so if player x raise player y, x controls y? |
| 18:58.18 | Kirkburn | I assume you get a "do you want to be ressurected and take control of your ghoul" style popup |
| 18:58.20 | g0urra | or does y control y? |
| 18:58.28 | Kirkburn | y can control y |
| 18:58.35 | g0urra | uhhh that's what I said. |
| 18:58.40 | Bagginsww_ | I think death knights have always had some free will |
| 18:58.46 | Bagginsww_ | at least in the RPG |
| 18:58.49 | Bagginsww_ | it was always a player class |
| 18:59.13 | Bagginsww_ | though n the RPG you could roleplay working for the Scourge |
| 18:59.14 | Kirkburn | g0urra, only if it's an ally can they take control of their ghoul |
| 18:59.40 | *** part/#wowwiki Malgayne (n=Malgayne@cpe-66-75-244-175.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:59.40 | Bagginsww_ | the RPG could let you play any faction, and even be independent |
| 18:59.50 | g0urra | yes, I know. I meant that player x raise y, and then y can't do whatever he want. |
| 18:59.54 | Kirkburn | If the ally doesn't take control of their ghoul, I assume they res normally, ad the ghoul just acts like a pet to the DK |
| 19:00.04 | g0urra | on the other hand, y can mess x up by ninja pulling etc to kill x. |
| 19:00.17 | Bagginsww_ | but ya it could be used as a griefing measure in as much as you could lose someone's body, ;) and make them have to pay durability costs |
| 19:00.21 | Kirkburn | g0urra, they could do that in life, why would people become ninjas just cause they died? |
| 19:00.41 | g0urra | because they probably won't get any durability loss? |
| 19:00.51 | g0urra | that's just dumb if you lose durability |
| 19:00.54 | Kirkburn | I would expect the ghoul does not count as the player's corpse |
| 19:01.21 | Bagginsww_ | Course the rpg has the idea that undeath corrupts the mind |
| 19:01.30 | Kirkburn | g0urra, have you so little trust in your own allies? :) |
| 19:01.33 | Bagginsww_ | in as much as the longer you are undead the more likely you will turn evil |
| 19:01.36 | g0urra | "ok man, I will raise you from the dead but you'll have limited abilities and get -10% durability in 2 minutes. deal?" |
| 19:01.39 | Bagginsww_ | and savor your new powers |
| 19:01.56 | foxlit | Kirkburn: that's justified, I live to stab allies in the back! |
| 19:01.59 | Kirkburn | g0urra, again,I doubt the ghoul counts as a proper player |
| 19:02.15 | foxlit | [ps: you care about durability.. why?] |
| 19:02.22 | pcj | Probably going to be a squishy melee dps |
| 19:02.23 | Kirkburn | So no player corpse movement, no durability loss |
| 19:02.32 | Kirkburn | pcj, yeah |
| 19:02.33 | Bagginsww_ | then there was what's his name in Naxx. Who is certainly being controlled |
| 19:02.33 | g0urra | because dying = durability |
| 19:02.43 | foxlit | So? |
| 19:02.45 | foxlit | You poor? |
| 19:02.45 | Bagginsww_ | I'd love to learn more about him |
| 19:02.53 | Kirkburn | g0urra, you're assuming a ghoul is the same as the player, I doubt it |
| 19:03.04 | foxlit | You practically fall over repair vendors on the way to anywhere you're likely to wipe |
| 19:03.08 | foxlit | s/fall/trip/ |
| 19:03.11 | Bagginsww_ | can you lose durability if you are mind controlled? |
| 19:03.19 | pcj | Yes |
| 19:03.21 | foxlit | If killed by an NPC |
| 19:03.21 | Bagginsww_ | ahh |
| 19:03.26 | foxlit | And not in a battleground |
| 19:03.32 | Kirkburn | Think about the priest life after death thing, you don't get double the durability loss because you had 30 seconds of extra healing time |
| 19:03.41 | g0urra | 15 |
| 19:03.51 | foxlit | But either way, whining about future abilities is pointless :) |
| 19:03.58 | Kirkburn | yes, thanks :P |
| 19:04.01 | Bagginsww_ | eh just wait until its released then complain :) |
| 19:04.26 | g0urra | I'm disappointed though in that there's no news about inscription |
| 19:04.57 | foxlit | There will, at some point, be news about inscription |
| 19:05.16 | g0urra | of course, but not from this invitational |
| 19:05.29 | Bagginsww_ | but ya the idea that undeath will corrupt one's soul is something brought up severaltimes in the rpg. That even Forsaken are sucestiple to that. Its a rare few that are able to resist it, and its unclear if they could do it indefinitely |
| 19:05.31 | foxlit | this invitational is in june |
| 19:05.50 | g0urra | foxlit, I meant the invitational some websites got recently to the blizzard HQ. |
| 19:05.53 | Bagginsww_ | for some trying to resist caues their mind to snap, and they become mindless |
| 19:05.56 | foxlit | As long as you can't play wotlk, I don't see what difference it makes when you hear those news :) |
| 19:06.16 | Kirkburn | g0urra, yes there is news about insciption o_O |
| 19:06.26 | Kirkburn | Not much but some - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=7288.0 |
| 19:06.51 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww_, cool |
| 19:06.51 | g0urra | edits the inscription article |
| 19:06.59 | Bagginsww_ | I just hope there is no collector's edition... As much as I like the book, and a few extra trinkets I don't want to pay so much for each release, when I can't even play as much as I used be able to :p |
| 19:07.13 | Kirkburn | Yeah please do add new info (with refs!) :P |
| 19:07.29 | Kirkburn | Up yours, I want a collector's edition ;) |
| 19:07.43 | Fisker- | Up yours, I want a collector's edition too |
| 19:07.45 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:07.47 | Bagginsww_ | I say just make the book seperate like the rest ended up being :p |
| 19:07.53 | Kirkburn | ah, heh |
| 19:08.07 | Fisker- | i just want the dvd and the in-game perks |
| 19:08.11 | Bagginsww_ | what's so special about it if its later sold? |
| 19:08.20 | Fisker- | heh yeah |
| 19:08.22 | g0urra | I pre-ordered BC for 16 months, so I wasn't surprised that I got to buy the CE. :P |
| 19:08.24 | Bagginsww_ | well they don't have to go as all out fancy |
| 19:08.37 | Fisker- | I was kinda annoyed when i saw all those CE items on the blizzard store sold seperately :D |
| 19:08.42 | Bagginsww_ | ya |
| 19:08.46 | Bagginsww_ | that annoyed me |
| 19:08.59 | Bagginsww_ | and they made too many CE for the last expansiono |
| 19:09.05 | Bagginsww_ | you couldn't sell them aftermarket :p |
| 19:09.13 | Bagginsww_ | people lost money |
| 19:09.58 | Fisker- | btw i love how drysc blindly defends Blizzard :D |
| 19:10.03 | Bagginsww_ | but ya they might as well sell a collector's edition of the sort LOTRO had. |
| 19:10.08 | Bagginsww_ | regular sized box |
| 19:10.12 | Bagginsww_ | you get bonus ingame stuff |
| 19:10.15 | Bagginsww_ | and a few trinkets |
| 19:10.17 | Bagginsww_ | outside |
| 19:10.35 | Bagginsww_ | then they could sell the artbook seperately |
| 19:10.50 | Bagginsww_ | LOTRO had the making of dvd with the special edition box |
| 19:10.57 | Fisker- | So Blizzard said that they were afraid that people would use the new 10-man instances for learning the 25-man encounters, so they might end up locking 10-man instances until the 25-man is completed |
| 19:11.01 | Bagginsww_ | it was only like a $10 difference |
| 19:11.14 | Bagginsww_ | wtf? |
| 19:11.36 | Fisker- | then Drysc goes on a trolling spree and says that the encounters will be vastly different so the coordination will be something entirely different |
| 19:11.40 | Lukian | Kirkburn, "while minor glyphs will give convenient or cosmetic improvements, removing the need for some spell reagents", oo interesting :o |
| 19:11.48 | Fisker- | despite Tigole(I think it was) pretty much claiming the exact opposite |
| 19:11.59 | Fisker- | way to research before trolling :D |
| 19:12.21 | Bagginsww_ | I wonder if the glyphs were originally intended to be in the last expansion, anyone remember the blood elf boxart? |
| 19:12.45 | Bagginsww_ | now blood elfs can look more like the rpg version of the race, ;) |
| 19:12.57 | g0urra | Kirkburn, updated |
| 19:13.09 | Kaso | boxes? who had those old fasioned boxes if you ask me |
| 19:14.00 | Fisker- | AHAHHAHAHAHA |
| 19:14.03 | Fisker- | caving into peer pressure |
| 19:14.06 | Fisker- | When Mass Effect comes to the computer it will not use SecuROM which require 10-day periodic re-authetication and instead will rely on a one-time online authentication, Bioware announced today. |
| 19:14.06 | Fisker- | The developer said the decision came after listening "very closely" to its fans and that the new system will also allow gamers to play the game without the DVD in the drive. |
| 19:15.08 | Kaso | Fisker-, awesome news |
| 19:15.17 | Kaso | i will now buy the game again |
| 19:15.30 | Fisker- | i'm laughing if they don't encrypt the dvd |
| 19:15.38 | Fisker- | cause then it's going to be pirated before release :D |
| 19:15.49 | Fisker- | and i'll lol over their stupid ineffiecient copy protection |
| 19:16.26 | Kaso | well protecting dvd images isnt really a care of those, its protecting serialkey protection etc |
| 19:16.44 | foxlit | Oh, it does, sort of |
| 19:17.30 | Bagginsww_ | so ya I find it interesting how they will be finising the current story arc in LOTRO |
| 19:17.32 | foxlit | If what you ship is garbage without a decryption key, and you're the only one who can distribute those, no amount of physical piracy will break the game before you issue a key |
| 19:17.36 | Bagginsww_ | in the next few patches |
| 19:17.53 | Bagginsww_ | and they plan to start a brand new story arc in the Moria expansion |
| 19:18.17 | foxlit | LOTRO seems to be a crap name |
| 19:18.17 | Kaso | foxlit, but anyone installing the game (eg every customer) must have the decryption key so doesnt that nullify encrypting dvd? |
| 19:18.18 | Bagginsww_ | the story arcs called "books" are made up of chapters |
| 19:18.29 | Fisker- | no Kaso |
| 19:18.31 | foxlit | Kaso: no, they don't really have to |
| 19:18.31 | Bagginsww_ | a long quest line smilar to the missing king quest line |
| 19:18.33 | Fisker- | the key is gained online |
| 19:18.35 | Bagginsww_ | but with cutscenes in between |
| 19:18.39 | Bagginsww_ | each chapter |
| 19:18.41 | foxlit | You can get it from their one-time activation with your serial |
| 19:18.44 | Lukian | "Every player will get a new spell book page to which they can add six glyphs - currently, four major and two minor." |
| 19:18.47 | Lukian | hmm interesting |
| 19:18.57 | Bagginsww_ | and you do huge quest chains in each chapter |
| 19:19.10 | Bagginsww_ | like 10-20 quests |
| 19:19.33 | Bagginsww_ | at the end of the chapter you are sent to a new area to start the next chapter |
| 19:19.46 | Bagginsww_ | Its a neat system |
| 19:20.13 | foxlit | So, basically what wow does, but more linear? |
| 19:20.28 | Bagginsww_ | the books are linear |
| 19:20.36 | Bagginsww_ | but there are lots of small quest chain storylines |
| 19:20.39 | Bagginsww_ | like in WoW |
| 19:21.09 | Bagginsww_ | though they tend to be tied more deeply into the LOTRO novel, so are a bit more interesting |
| 19:21.16 | Bagginsww_ | *LOTR and Hobbit |
| 19:21.29 | foxlit | So, is Sauron dead? |
| 19:21.31 | Bagginsww_ | basically if you know the books you catch many references |
| 19:21.42 | Bagginsww_ | its currently set during Fellowship of the Ring |
| 19:21.54 | Bagginsww_ | so uh he's in Mordor |
| 19:21.59 | Bagginsww_ | as an Eye... |
| 19:22.08 | Bagginsww_ | and no Mordor is not yet in the game |
| 19:22.30 | Bagginsww_ | the game is currently set in the lands west of the Moria |
| 19:22.43 | Bagginsww_ | mainly the NW lands though from the Shire north |
| 19:22.47 | sacarasc | i heard the PVP system in lotro is quite fun, where you can be a monster... sounds interesting at the least |
| 19:22.58 | Bagginsww_ | ya you get monster play at level 10 |
| 19:23.11 | Bagginsww_ | basically it gives you a level 30-50 monster |
| 19:23.17 | Fisker- | Burnout Paradise Coming to PC |
| 19:23.18 | Fisker- | OH LAWD |
| 19:23.23 | Bagginsww_ | you can upgrade with points you earn in pvp and leveling |
| 19:23.31 | Fisker- | Yet another "ain |
| 19:23.35 | Bagginsww_ | monsters are limited to their own huge zone |
| 19:23.43 | Fisker- | Yet another "ain't gonna happen" xbox exclusive to land on the PC :D |
| 19:23.44 | Bagginsww_ | which players reach once they get high enough |
| 19:24.16 | Bagginsww_ | and there are two special classes which you can play an hour every 12 hours in that zone too |
| 19:24.29 | foxlit | I'm only feigning interest to figure out what the heck they're doing for the game, as the actual story is already played out |
| 19:24.37 | Bagginsww_ | Ranger for the good side and an Ogre for the monsters |
| 19:25.08 | Bagginsww_ | however LOTRO is more PVE than PVP. Allthe main races in the game are on the same side |
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| 19:25.31 | Bagginsww_ | so no griefing can occur |
| 19:26.23 | Bagginsww_ | so ya next expansion moves into moria, and opens up a few more western lands |
| 19:26.38 | foxlit | "Estimated World Population to Pass 6,666,666,666 Today" |
| 19:26.48 | Bagginsww_ | after that the plan is to move into the Two Towers time frame |
| 19:26.58 | Bagginsww_ | with Rohan |
| 19:27.05 | Bagginsww_ | and mounted Combat |
| 19:27.18 | Bagginsww_ | which should be unique for MMOs? |
| 19:28.16 | Bagginsww_ | but ya I need to get a copy of vista for my pc just to play LOTRO in its most beautiful format.. |
| 19:28.31 | Bagginsww_ | its got some impressive shadows and reflections |
| 19:28.49 | Bagginsww_ | my laptop is direct x10 compliant but the video card just isn't powerful enough |
| 19:29.15 | Bagginsww_ | well talk to you all later going to go get breakfast before they close the line |
| 19:38.31 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 19:38.31 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 19:39.38 | *** join/#wowwiki Yarko (n=testtube@cpe-76-90-123-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:42.22 | *** join/#wowwiki Yarko2 (n=testtube@cpe-76-90-123-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:42.35 | Yarko2 | Hello? |
| 19:42.52 | g0urra | Hello Yarko |
| 19:43.02 | g0urra | s/Yarko/Yarko2/ |
| 19:43.02 | Yarko2 | it's working! i got disconnected for some reason |
| 19:43.17 | Yarko2 | yeah i got dced as yarko |
| 19:43.29 | Yarko2 | Hey i have a question |
| 19:44.03 | *** join/#wowwiki Dotted (i=Dotted@bureaucrat.wowwiki.dk) |
| 19:44.31 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Dotted] by ChanServ |
| 19:45.16 | Yarko2 | I cant log into wowwiki anymore. I tried wowwiki-yarko, but that doesnt work either. if I try to create a new account, it says that Yarko already exists. I can't use the password email function since my email has changed. How can I get a hold of an administrator to get this sorted? There is no contact info anywhere on the WoWWii site. |
| 19:46.21 | Kaso | pokes Kirkburn |
| 19:46.25 | Yarko2 | I pray to lord kirkburn for answers |
| 19:46.54 | Yarko2 | my negligible kingdom for an email link! |
| 19:46.59 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Upgrade_early_2008#User_database_merge |
| 19:47.08 | Kaso | You werent looking too hard for an email link! |
| 19:47.19 | Yarko2 | :( I did look ... |
| 19:47.23 | Yarko2 | hehe |
| 19:47.55 | Kaso | The user db merge is complete. Click here for info and troubleshooting tips. Prob is a good place to start ;p |
| 19:48.30 | Yarko2 | oh man, i was looking for a link :P |
| 19:48.32 | Yarko2 | thanksman |
| 19:48.35 | Yarko2 | or woman |
| 19:48.36 | Kaso | no worries |
| 19:48.45 | Kaso | Kirkburn, will be around prob if you hang out here |
| 19:49.40 | Kirkburn | Surely not |
| 19:50.08 | Kirkburn | Usernames are case sensitive |
| 19:50.30 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:WoWWiki-Yarko exists |
| 19:50.58 | Fisker- | Why would user names be case sensitive? |
| 19:51.00 | Fisker- | that is madness! |
| 19:51.19 | Kaso | no, this is WOWWIKI! *kick* |
| 19:51.20 | Yarko2 | yikes! thanks, sire! |
| 19:51.33 | Fisker- | *falls into the pit* |
| 19:51.45 | Yarko2 | oh and thanks for putting in a close button on the login window :) |
| 19:51.55 | Kaso | http://news.bbc.co.uk/ |
| 19:52.07 | Kaso | check out the "MOST POPULAR STORIES NOW" bit on the right half way down |
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| 19:53.07 | Kirkburn | Yarko2, was that you saying the bug is fixed? |
| 19:53.11 | g0urra | "US and Russia in sandwich battle"? |
| 19:53.21 | g0urra | or maybe "Great tits cope well with warming"? |
| 19:53.26 | Kaso | bingo! |
| 19:53.39 | Kirkburn | Kaso, heh, saw it yesterday |
| 19:53.40 | Kaso | i love how that is no1, you just know its childish people on the internet linking |
| 19:53.48 | Kirkburn | Humans are so predictable |
| 19:53.48 | g0urra | "Europeans get drunk 'to have sex'" |
| 19:53.49 | g0urra | well no shit |
| 19:53.54 | g0urra | :P |
| 19:53.55 | Yarko2 | OK, I am in. Thanks a bunch, Kirkburn. |
| 19:54.01 | Kirkburn | Yarko2, awesome |
| 19:54.14 | g0urra | "Young adults in Europe deliberately binge on drink and drugs to improve their sex lives, research suggests." |
| 19:54.23 | Kirkburn | The login popup was missing a close button for a few days, is that still the case? |
| 19:54.39 | g0urra | they should change 'Europe' to 'UK' |
| 19:54.47 | Yarko2 | So, am i forever stuck with that nasty login name? |
| 19:55.15 | Kirkburn | Nope, you don't have to be |
| 19:55.25 | Yarko2 | no, the close button is there now, thank zeus. |
| 19:55.33 | Bagginsww_ | Not sure how bear goggles improves a sex life, I suppose it improves appearances... |
| 19:55.39 | Bagginsww_ | *beer |
| 19:55.42 | Kirkburn | Assuming Yarko is owned by someone else, you can request a namechange on the talk page http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki talk:Upgrade_early_2008 |
| 19:55.59 | Kirkburn | Yay close button |
| 19:56.28 | Yarko2 | well considering that i tried to create a new Yarko and it shield blocked me, I assume that the name is taken... :(... |
| 19:56.53 | Kaso | what is this Close button people are talking about? |
| 19:56.54 | Bagginsww_ | and ya it can lower inhibitions... |
| 19:56.57 | Kirkburn | My apologies, twas an unavoidable side effect of the merge |
| 19:57.05 | Bagginsww_ | but does that really "improve sex"? |
| 19:57.15 | Yarko2 | Can you delete that other account? who cares about that person... haha |
| 19:57.17 | Kirkburn | Kaso, on the ajax login popup, the close button was missing for a while. Clickable, but no image to tell you so |
| 19:57.21 | Kaso | well if you get more of it Bagginsww_ |
| 19:57.26 | Bagginsww_ | I mean if the sex was bad enough to begin with maybe you want to forget about it...that could be an improvement |
| 19:57.27 | Kaso | ooh |
| 19:57.59 | Yarko2 | ive found that drinking makes me want to throw up, not get intimate |
| 19:58.09 | Bagginsww_ | The fact is I could probably get it, but since I don't drink I'd feel like I was taken advantage of the drunk :p |
| 19:58.12 | Kirkburn | Yarko2, I doubt it - they may have contribs on other Wikia. Mention it on the talk page though, you *may* be able to usurp them if they've not edits/logged in for a long time |
| 19:58.13 | Yarko2 | maybe im drinking the wrong stuff |
| 19:58.25 | Bagginsww_ | lol |
| 19:58.41 | Bagginsww_ | absinthe? |
| 19:58.46 | Yarko2 | hehe |
| 19:58.59 | Yarko2 | i like to be sober so I can get out quick when it is over |
| 19:59.01 | Bagginsww_ | mild halucigenic effect, that might be interesting |
| 19:59.10 | Kaso | Bagginsww_, they choose to get drunk, knowing full well it will lower there inhibitions, infact some do soley for that reason, its not taking advantage (to a point) imo |
| 19:59.34 | Bagginsww_ | Kaso I was under the impressiom both are drinking right? |
| 19:59.48 | Bagginsww_ | I meant in my case, where I personally do not imbibe :) |
| 19:59.51 | Kaso | last time i drank absinthe i fell down the stairs hurt my ankle, it swelled up like an egg, and i walked on it all night with little pain |
| 19:59.55 | Bagginsww_ | so it would bed one sided |
| 20:00.02 | Bagginsww_ | wow |
| 20:00.21 | Kaso | i was talking about your case, i think even if its one sided (again upto a point) its not a huge issue |
| 20:00.51 | Bagginsww_ | now hoppped up on caffeine so my senses were more alert that could be impressive |
| 20:01.01 | Bagginsww_ | ahh |
| 20:01.30 | Bagginsww_ | ahh well, I suppose if they were drinking something I couldn't smell, and they were trying to vomit on me, it could be handy lawl |
| 20:01.43 | Kaso | hah |
| 20:01.45 | Bagginsww_ | otherwise I think I'd be extremely turned off |
| 20:01.57 | Kaso | Drinking to vomiting isnt nice, i havent done that for a fair old time |
| 20:02.08 | Kaso | i think ive gotten more mature in my old age (lol) |
| 20:02.34 | Bagginsww_ | how old is old? in ballpark decades? |
| 20:02.53 | Kaso | 21, thats why i suffixed the lol on it |
| 20:03.00 | Bagginsww_ | heh heh |
| 20:03.16 | Bagginsww_ | in other words old as in legal adult heh heh |
| 20:03.21 | Kaso | but i feel considerable more mature than when i started drinking 5 years ago |
| 20:03.55 | g0urra | Bagginsww_, you don't drink? |
| 20:03.55 | Bagginsww_ | *I meant weren't trying to vomit on me, but somehow lost the contraction :p |
| 20:04.02 | Bagginsww_ | Nope, never have never will |
| 20:04.05 | Bagginsww_ | personal choice |
| 20:04.05 | g0urra | high five! |
| 20:04.32 | g0urra | down low! |
| 20:04.33 | g0urra | too slow. |
| 20:04.36 | Kaso | not one of those straighedgexxxXx.xX ones are you? |
| 20:04.51 | Kaso | Not drinking i can understand fine, those guys i want to punch somewhat. |
| 20:04.53 | Bagginsww_ | straightedged pornographic to the extreme? |
| 20:04.58 | Bagginsww_ | Can'ts ay that I am |
| 20:05.00 | g0urra | haha. |
| 20:05.14 | g0urra | I'm what you would call in swedish a "absolutist" |
| 20:05.47 | Bagginsww_ | but yes I don't drink, smoke, eat fairly kosher (not jewish mind you, but the term is appropriate) |
| 20:05.48 | g0urra | no drugs, smokes, snuff or alcohol |
| 20:06.07 | Bagginsww_ | no drugs either |
| 20:06.15 | Bagginsww_ | but big into video games |
| 20:06.16 | g0urra | Bagginsww_, we're a rare breed |
| 20:06.20 | Bagginsww_ | that's my vice of choice ;) |
| 20:06.24 | g0urra | hehe |
| 20:06.31 | Bagginsww_ | its as bad as crack if you let it |
| 20:06.59 | Bagginsww_ | however, perhaps I'm more addicted to internet and education... |
| 20:07.16 | Bagginsww_ | I can't for the life of me skip a class :p |
| 20:07.25 | Bagginsww_ | it induces pain and guilt :p |
| 20:07.36 | Bagginsww_ | headaches |
| 20:07.46 | Bagginsww_ | parents must have put a chip in my head :p |
| 20:08.03 | g0urra | ok you're more rare then |
| 20:08.28 | Bagginsww_ | I just consider the money I'm putting into classes to be important |
| 20:08.38 | Bagginsww_ | or rather the loans I will have to pay off later on :p |
| 20:08.54 | Bagginsww_ | so I avoid doing anything that could lead to me flunking LOL |
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| 20:09.19 | Bagginsww_ | I suppose it might be slight paranoia :p |
| 20:09.55 | Kirkburn | Actually, I know why I'd get the collector's edition ... for the music |
| 20:10.00 | Bagginsww_ | basically I have to be in a period where there is no homework, before I feel safe to do anything else, :) |
| 20:10.15 | Bagginsww_ | Kirkburn ya that's one of hte main things I like from them |
| 20:10.21 | Bagginsww_ | and the book |
| 20:10.21 | Kirkburn | The trailer in full HD is beautiful |
| 20:10.28 | Bagginsww_ | and the dvd |
| 20:10.36 | Bagginsww_ | the rest of the stuff is kinda eh |
| 20:10.39 | Bagginsww_ | I never used the mousepad |
| 20:10.48 | Kirkburn | I'm using it right now :P |
| 20:10.48 | Bagginsww_ | and map was useles sin the first |
| 20:10.58 | g0urra | I'm using the mousepad right now |
| 20:11.04 | Bagginsww_ | heh |
| 20:11.05 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 20:11.06 | g0urra | mainly because I don't have any other |
| 20:11.19 | Bagginsww_ | well I know what happens to mousepads with use |
| 20:11.30 | Bagginsww_ | and its too beutiful to do that to LOL |
| 20:11.30 | Kirkburn | I still have Blizzcon goodies stuck to my wall and monitor |
| 20:11.39 | Bagginsww_ | damn you :p |
| 20:11.44 | Bagginsww_ | at least I have hawaii...hahahhaha |
| 20:11.44 | g0urra | grr I haven't been to Blizzcon |
| 20:11.53 | Kirkburn | hopes for more goodies at WWI :P |
| 20:11.57 | g0urra | but I'm going to the WWI..so I got something at least |
| 20:12.10 | Bagginsww_ | WWI wouldn't it be WWIII, j/k |
| 20:12.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, Hawaii > Blizzcon |
| 20:12.25 | Bagginsww_ | hmm but Blizzcon in Hawaii? |
| 20:12.28 | Kirkburn | Blizz are time travellers, duh |
| 20:12.29 | g0urra | World Wide InvItatIonal? |
| 20:12.39 | Kirkburn | hah |
| 20:12.43 | g0urra | :P |
| 20:12.51 | Kirkburn | So, we're going to have to set up a WoWWiki meeting at WWI |
| 20:12.52 | foxlit | one word |
| 20:13.07 | g0urra | Sounds cool Kirkburn |
| 20:13.18 | Kirkburn | worldwideinvitational ... uh, no ;) |
| 20:13.34 | foxlit | Worldwide Invitational |
| 20:15.09 | Bagginsww_ | hmm an interesting game might be an MMO set in an alternate universe version of a famous war. With magic casters, etc |
| 20:15.41 | Bagginsww_ | well doesn't even have to be entirely an MMO |
| 20:15.50 | Bagginsww_ | a single player mode might kick ass |
| 20:15.54 | foxlit | NEXT TIME ON BATTLEFIELD: 1907: MAGIC USERS WREAK HAVOK ON THE FRENCH |
| 20:15.59 | Bagginsww_ | heh heh |
| 20:16.32 | Bagginsww_ | I suppose Full Metal Alchemist series kinda touched on aspects of that |
| 20:16.46 | g0urra | World of Battlefield |
| 20:16.55 | Bagginsww_ | Wob? |
| 20:16.57 | Bagginsww_ | LOL |
| 20:17.11 | Bagginsww_ | Battle of Battles :p |
| 20:17.12 | Bagginsww_ | Bob |
| 20:17.27 | g0urra | "Yeah man I play World of Battlefield" |
| 20:17.34 | g0urra | "So you could say you're a Wobbler" |
| 20:17.37 | g0urra | "...shut up" |
| 20:17.38 | Kirkburn | There was no war in 1907 |
| 20:17.41 | Bagginsww_ | World of Battlecraft |
| 20:17.45 | Kirkburn | Stoopid :P |
| 20:17.51 | g0urra | World of Battlealchemists |
| 20:17.52 | Bagginsww_ | its an alternate universe |
| 20:17.55 | Bagginsww_ | anything can happen |
| 20:18.03 | g0urra | WoBa |
| 20:18.03 | Kirkburn | Yeah, but still ... |
| 20:18.05 | Bagginsww_ | ww1 began earlier |
| 20:19.04 | Bagginsww_ | so any artists and designers out there? |
| 20:19.12 | Bagginsww_ | We should make our own game heh heh |
| 20:19.21 | Kirkburn | 1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt |
| 20:19.23 | g0urra | points at Kanaru who isn't here |
| 20:19.27 | Bagginsww_ | hah hah |
| 20:19.38 | Kirkburn | Also 1906-1909 Pig War, 1904-1909 Black Patch War ... yeah, exciting times |
| 20:19.41 | g0urra | Full Metal Blacksmith |
| 20:19.50 | g0urra | hmmm that makes sense |
| 20:19.51 | Bagginsww_ | let's just set in 1916 :p |
| 20:20.02 | Kirkburn | A war with peasants, a war with pigs, or something to do with dark cloth :P |
| 20:20.07 | Bagginsww_ | lol |
| 20:20.14 | Bagginsww_ | dark cloth? Warlocks... |
| 20:20.18 | Bagginsww_ | and necromancers oh my |
| 20:20.20 | g0urra | Warlock Pigs! |
| 20:20.24 | Bagginsww_ | Ganon |
| 20:20.28 | g0urra | Haha. |
| 20:20.41 | Kirkburn | Actually, Black Patch appears to have been tobacco related |
| 20:20.52 | g0urra | and the peasant Linken with Pitchfork of Trident |
| 20:20.59 | Kirkburn | Anyway, take your pick - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1900%E2%80%931944 |
| 20:21.15 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti |
| 20:21.30 | foxlit | It's nice - islands, pretty water reflections, plenty of voodoo! |
| 20:21.46 | g0urra | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_before_1000 |
| 20:21.52 | g0urra | I don't see War of the Ancients! |
| 20:22.22 | Bagginsww_ | heh heh |
| 20:22.38 | Kirkburn | "Before 1000" just sounds wrong |
| 20:23.13 | Bagginsww_ | eh just set it during ww1 |
| 20:24.08 | Bagginsww_ | of course in this alternate universe do you want the battles to extend beyond europian countries into the Americas? |
| 20:24.51 | Bagginsww_ | although a magic civil war era might be interesting |
| 20:25.53 | Bagginsww_ | although I'm sure these ideas have been done by authors :p... Turtledove comes to mind.. Although eh its a book. |
| 20:26.00 | Bagginsww_ | I wanna see a game |
| 20:26.14 | Bagginsww_ | actually it wasn't magic, but I kind of like the concept of one game I saw |
| 20:26.29 | Bagginsww_ | it was set in a 1960's or so where WW1 never ended |
| 20:26.44 | Bagginsww_ | first person shooter |
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| 20:27.12 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Proto-Nether_Drake.jpg uh. |
| 20:27.34 | Bagginsww_ | Ironstorm |
| 20:27.42 | Bagginsww_ | it has dated graphics, but I found it to be fun |
| 20:27.46 | Yarko | tets |
| 20:28.12 | Bagginsww_ | IT was kinda Wolfenstein like |
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| 20:30.20 | Bagginsww_ | so essentially the first half of the game you fight in trenches trying to work your way forward to take land back. Then you move into a city and fight street to street. Then into an underground lab with experiments. |
| 20:30.43 | Bagginsww_ | and finally into a mansion to take out some austrian leader guy. |
| 20:31.13 | Bagginsww_ | Turns out the guy was going to finally tell the world he was going to give up and stop the war no one could remember why it was being fought in the first place |
| 20:31.21 | Kirkburn | g0urra, problem? |
| 20:31.31 | g0urra | what? |
| 20:31.37 | Bagginsww_ | and by your killing him, you prolonge the war |
| 20:31.46 | Kirkburn | You linked the proto nether drake |
| 20:32.04 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:BasiliskOutland.png |
| 20:32.07 | g0urra | compare |
| 20:32.12 | Kirkburn | Yes, same model |
| 20:32.14 | Bagginsww_ | yes |
| 20:32.18 | Bagginsww_ | they do that alot ;) |
| 20:32.34 | Kirkburn | It's kinda odd, but only seen in one quest |
| 20:32.43 | g0urra | Link? |
| 20:33.13 | Bagginsww_ | they are in blades edge |
| 20:33.43 | g0urra | also in terokkar if I remember correct |
| 20:33.46 | Bagginsww_ | its appears during a quest from Toshley's station |
| 20:33.51 | Kirkburn | No the drake version |
| 20:33.55 | g0urra | ah. |
| 20:34.03 | Bagginsww_ | you get some "devolver" thing |
| 20:34.11 | Bagginsww_ | and have to turn drakes into eggs |
| 20:34.13 | g0urra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21821 :/ |
| 20:34.17 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30743 |
| 20:34.21 | Bagginsww_ | sometimes turns into the proto-dragons |
| 20:35.19 | g0urra | doesn't look anything like a drake..hmpf |
| 20:35.36 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:What_Came_First%2C_the_Drake_or_the_Egg%3F |
| 20:36.05 | Bagginsww_ | its because you are originally turning drakes into eggs I think |
| 20:36.11 | Bagginsww_ | so they call it a "proto-drake" |
| 20:36.56 | g0urra | looks stupid..but okay |
| 20:37.07 | Bagginsww_ | and I can understand their reasoning... why create a brand new model if its only going to be used for one quest? |
| 20:37.44 | g0urra | I hope it's going to be made with WotLK |
| 20:37.44 | Bagginsww_ | also don't quote me but if I remember right it cycles between eggs, whelps or the proto-drake? |
| 20:37.53 | Bagginsww_ | why gourra? |
| 20:37.59 | foxlit | random which one you get |
| 20:38.10 | Bagginsww_ | ya random I remember that part |
| 20:38.17 | g0urra | because there's probably going to be those there..or something. |
| 20:38.19 | Bagginsww_ | but I trying to remember if it also included the whelps |
| 20:38.23 | g0urra | proto dragon thingies. |
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| 20:38.31 | Bagginsww_ | I doubt it |
| 20:38.44 | Bagginsww_ | the main thing was the egg, the proto-drake was mearly something to attack you |
| 20:39.02 | Bagginsww_ | to be annoying while you tried to collect eggs |
| 20:39.19 | Bagginsww_ | kinda like oh Sand gnomes |
| 20:39.26 | foxlit | nobody is interested in the eggs, though |
| 20:39.42 | Bagginsww_ | I'd love to see more sand gnomes but I doubt we'll ever see them again |
| 20:40.40 | Bagginsww_ | now if the proto-drakes had been regularly spawned mobs then there might be some small posiblity of blizzared going back to use them elsewhere :p |
| 20:40.54 | Bagginsww_ | if it was important for story :p |
| 20:41.00 | Bagginsww_ | *Blizzard |
| 20:41.58 | Bagginsww_ | NOw from what I understand Proto-dragons on the other hand just use regular dragon models |
| 20:42.03 | Bagginsww_ | colored white |
| 20:46.14 | Bagginsww_ | so ya from what I undertand Dark Factions is set pre-TBC |
| 20:46.34 | Bagginsww_ | but I'm guessing its set about the same time as APG/HPG |
| 20:47.04 | Bagginsww_ | probably part of the same journal and research documents used to put both of those books together |
| 20:48.18 | Bagginsww_ | It should have updates information about Northrend past what was mentioned in Land of Mysteries |
| 20:48.30 | Bagginsww_ | but not to the point of stuff seen in Wrath |
| 20:49.01 | Bagginsww_ | since there were hints of the undead city in HPG, perhaps we might hear a bit about it however. |
| 20:49.41 | Bagginsww_ | undead city in Howling Fjord |
| 20:49.49 | Bagginsww_ | although the book wasn't specific as to where the city was built |
| 20:50.09 | Bagginsww_ | just hints that Sylvanas had traveled to Northrend to build something |
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| 22:54.37 | DuTempete | Okay... Kirkburn is insisting on having polls on the wiki... |
| 22:54.47 | DuTempete | So, I figured we would give him one he'll really like. |
| 22:55.16 | DuTempete | He's going to the world invitational... |
| 22:55.27 | Adys | Lets all vote so he doesn't come annoy me there |
| 22:55.31 | DuTempete | I think we should make him dress up for it... by a pole... |
| 22:55.33 | DuTempete | *poll |
| 22:55.35 | Adys | btw, polls fucking suck |
| 22:55.37 | Adys | seriously |
| 22:55.41 | DuTempete | I totally agree |
| 22:55.58 | DuTempete | hence why I want to abuse Kirk with it :P |
| 22:56.11 | TecnoBrat | A poll on what hes gonna wear? |
| 22:56.15 | DuTempete | yup |
| 22:56.15 | TecnoBrat | bikini! |
| 22:56.18 | DuTempete | hehehe |
| 22:56.24 | DuTempete | NElf chick :P |
| 22:56.29 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 22:56.34 | Adys | hey DuTempete btw coming to the wwi too? |
| 22:56.37 | DuTempete | no |
| 22:56.42 | DuTempete | too far :P |
| 22:56.46 | Adys | Pssht |
| 22:56.59 | TecnoBrat | you going? |
| 22:57.03 | Adys | aye |
| 22:57.03 | DuTempete | My break between semesters doesn't coincide, unfortunately |
| 22:57.04 | Adys | you? |
| 22:57.25 | DuTempete | I think I'm leaving one or two weeks before the invitational |
| 22:57.26 | TecnoBrat | I wish :P |
| 22:57.30 | Adys | hehe |
| 22:57.37 | Adys | wtb blizcon tickets for next year thoughj |
| 22:57.39 | Adys | -j |
| 22:57.43 | DuTempete | bleh |
| 22:58.23 | DuTempete | anyway... you guys think I should do the poll? |
| 22:58.32 | DuTempete | Adys could enforce the costume wearing :P |
| 22:58.42 | Adys | i could certainly take pics |
| 22:58.46 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:59.24 | DuTempete | We should have come up with some kind of cause |
| 22:59.35 | DuTempete | like Kidsplay or something... |
| 22:59.50 | DuTempete | if enough money was donated, I'm sure he would actually do something like that |
| 23:00.08 | Adys | irish santa |
| 23:00.17 | Adys | hes going with an irish santa claus costume |
| 23:00.32 | Adys | im admin i get to decide on that kind of serious issues, irish santa or no polls |
| 23:00.40 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:02.52 | TecnoBrat | how'd you get tickets Adys? |
| 23:03.13 | TecnoBrat | I heard they were like impossible to get |
| 23:03.18 | Adys | friend got me one |
| 23:03.27 | Adys | but they were quite possible to get |
| 23:03.30 | Adys | just the first day tho |
| 23:05.28 | foxlit | waste of bandwidth: http://spirit-dreams.net/?or2 |
| 23:10.16 | TecnoBrat | what mod is that that shows the enter / leave combat thingy |
| 23:12.13 | foxlit | I'm sure the default UI does that |
| 23:12.20 | foxlit | or at least, you can make it do that |
| 23:15.23 | Adys | night |
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