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00:00.16Adysoff to bed, night :P
00:00.28DuTempeteThat's what I was doing :P
00:00.54Adysweak :P
00:06.51DuTempeteHrmm... today feels like an oatmeal cookie day
00:07.06DuTempeteI have been in such a baking frenzy lately...
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00:29.33Polarina"In addition, StarCraft II and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King will be playable by everyone on the show floor. " :D
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00:46.59kirbydid someone say cookies
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01:36.45KeolahMy axe glows!
01:37.25KeolahI didn't know +30 intellect enchant made a weapon glow...
01:51.42AFKTempeteIt never fails... I made two batches of cookies, and thus, having eating a fair bit of the dough in the process, have no desire for the actual cookie :P
02:01.23KeolahTsk, tsk. Lay off the dough! :)
02:32.14DuTempetebut it's sooooooo tasty, Keolah !
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04:46.02Kirkburnkd3, lag warnings fixed -
04:46.57kd3whee. thanks
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05:12.50kd3oh, random
05:13.18kd3at the very bottom of the page, looks like there's a link missing... ToU | MediaWiki | | Ads | Privacy
05:17.28kd3yah, that'd be it
05:17.43KirkburnNot seeing that problem though
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09:53.53AdysKirkburn: what do you think of the resultN
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10:23.49[Liquidor]Q: what do yuo call somebody who palays the Microsoft Xbob?
10:23.49[Liquidor]A: INCARCERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10:54.44GourraAdys, replace with in templates?
10:54.54Gourra(not the image itself)
10:55.07Adysyea hold on Im still waiting for more approval
10:55.17Gourraalright just say when
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10:56.46GourraI'm eager putting these babies into use
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12:16.10Gourra a valid fansite? it has a private server section and gold ads..
12:16.27Gourrait was added under
12:17.29Gourratoday less than 30 mins ago
12:17.47Gourrahm nvm, someone just added the icon
12:18.05Adysi dont see gold ads
12:18.15Adysi even see a link to
12:18.31Gourradon't you see the ad to the right?
12:18.41Adysits a google ad
12:18.44Adysand imvu here
12:18.46GourraI see
12:18.53Gourranevermind me
12:19.26Adysdoes have a pvs section tho
12:19.28Adysremoving it
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12:33.17AdysGourra:  if you're bored, could you remove all the websites dead/empty from fansites
12:33.25Adysmy connection is a mess for another hour
12:38.46Gourraauction sites aren't allowed, right?
12:39.23Adysauction sites?
12:40.04Gourra"  WoW news, WoW information and its own WoW Shop"
12:40.18Adysyank it
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13:05.51Osekirkburn: is the new skin implemented?
13:07.47Adyskirkburn is having connection problems
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13:11.07Osewell, do you know?
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13:29.57GourraAdys: done
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13:36.05Osepcj you there?
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13:43.23Osehello mr. sven
13:43.44ModeFanI bought wow a few weeks ago
13:43.51ModeFanI kinda got addicted to it
13:44.04ModeFanI am not really much of a gamer
13:44.11ModeFanbut wow is err wow
13:44.12Oseis a few weeks enoguh to say you are addicted?
13:44.41ModeFanI came ont o ask about the toolbar at the bottom of the screen
13:44.48ModeFanis their a way of resetting it?
13:44.55ModeFanwithout manual moving everything
13:45.06ModeFanyou know the 1 - 6 bars
13:45.36ModeFanI noticed kyrin here from ol efnet
13:45.45ModeFanfrom many moons ago
13:45.58Polarina"Kael'thas lied to us.  The Outland is no paradise." -- Foreman Sundown
13:48.22ModeFanI wanted to also that I accepted a battleground quest
13:48.35ModeFanI understand this is different to normal quest
13:48.48ModeFanbut not sure how to go about it
13:49.17PolarinaModeFan: Don't use enter as punctuation.
13:49.58ModeFanyou a bot polarina?
13:50.14Adys~lart Polarina
13:50.14infobotcuts Polarina into thin stripes
13:51.02OseModeFan: did you instakk any addons?
13:51.18ModeFanI just got the original game
13:51.40ModeFanI found the wow wiki site very useful
13:51.56Osewhat do you mean with the 1.6 bars? the actionbars?
13:52.08Ose1-6 bah*
13:52.21ModeFanyes where you put your actions potions etc
13:53.56ModeFanI guess everyone playing
13:54.02ModeFanI'm off myself
13:54.04ModeFancya all
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14:05.42Osehmm... anyone have any ideas of how to make a hawt design for User:Ose/Sandbox/Server ?
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14:22.40Osewhy is archmage arugal the third most visited page? what's so special about him?
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14:33.32Adysose because those pages have not been updated since bc
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15:00.09foxlitose: uh, lay off the boxes
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16:01.07Gourrahello Exodus212
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16:48.20KirkburnThat should be my last d/c >_<
16:48.31KirkburnApologies to Jack_Phoenix :P
16:53.08KirkburnI forgot to give myself a static IP
16:53.24KirkburnAzureus was being a good boy and port forwarding ... to the wrong IP.
16:53.52Adysyou disconnected 81 times while I was online Kirkburn  :P
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16:57.21KirkburnThat one was intended (setting up static IP)
16:57.37Kirkburn82 adding up all channels?
16:57.40Gourrafoxlit, does foxbot handle item sets too with "UpdateItem"?
16:57.48Adyshm not sure Kirkburn
16:58.00Adysshould be only for ww but im parsing addybot's raw logs so
16:58.07KirkburnIt must be, cause I've only done it maybe 20 times on here
16:58.13foxlitGourra: no; sets are not items
16:58.25Adyslemme parse xchat logs
16:58.29GourraUpdateSet then?
16:58.34Gourraor isn't there such a thing
16:58.38foxlitundefined, I think you'll find
16:58.54KirkburnAh ... er ... 42 times
16:58.57Kirkburn(counted manually)
16:59.18KirkburnYou're getting double for some reason
16:59.19Osehmm... any clue why the profession box on isn't on all three colspans?
17:00.25Osefixed :)
17:00.25Adys40 times, it was parsing my logs too
17:00.39Adys(counted last one manually so yea)
17:02.38Gourraadys have you got approval for the svg images?
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17:02.48Adysdunno ask kirk
17:04.11Gourrahave you got approval for the svg images?
17:04.43KirkburnYes, better than using pngs
17:05.00KirkburnNot sure what you mean by approval though
17:05.12KirkburnApproval from whom?
17:05.40Gourra<Gourra> Adys, replace with in templates?
17:05.40Gourra<Gourra> (not the image itself)
17:05.40Gourra<Adys> yea hold on Im still waiting for more approval
17:06.06KirkburnOh, from me?
17:06.34GourraI guess so
17:07.10KirkburnYeah, fine by me
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17:20.29Gourrakirkburn, ok if I replace on other templates where applicable (sp?)
17:20.57KirkburnAs long as you don't break anything :P
17:21.19Gourraaww :(
17:22.50KirkburnHmm, if it changes the actual colour of the icon, I'd rather hold off for now
17:23.03KirkburnOn those ones at least
17:23.08Osepeople, waht do you think of ?
17:24.02Gourramkay kirk
17:24.21Adysyea one of them is yellow instead of green
17:24.30Adysill fix it in a while :P
17:24.43KirkburnAs long as the icon is substantially similar, then fine ... but until the whole icon set is up, I'd hold off on anything that changes colour
17:24.50Gourraalso, one is blue instead of green
17:25.05Adysoh yeah the +/- icons
17:25.09Gourra vs
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17:43.05Osekirkburn: yesno?
17:45.03KirkburnI'll deal later
17:47.45Oseokay :)
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18:00.45Kasooh man that page is a comedy goldmine
18:01.09Kaso"I am good at spelling and can spell really anything do not spam and are an expert at Warcraft Lore.", can spell anything, just isnt quite so good at grammer
18:01.33Adys~dict grammer
18:01.49KasoAdys, you big meanie
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18:01.56AdysI realize that
18:02.33KasoI wasn't commenting on his spelling so im saved from Irony though
18:03.21KasoTo be honest i should learn not to nitpick, the number of times ive made a fool of myself on irc is getting dangourously high
18:04.16foxlitWould you estimate it to be Theta(t), Theta(t^k), Theta(k^t) or Theta(t!)?
18:04.32Adys~rand 1-4
18:06.34Kasoam i allowed (t^t) ?
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18:18.53Osehow do I play warcraft 3 in a window?
18:19.09Oserun warcraftsomething.exe -w ?
18:23.43KirkburnIsn't there an ingame option?
18:23.58Gourranope kirk
18:24.06Kirkburn"make a shortcut and add -window to the end of the target!
18:24.13KirkburnIt's amazing what Google can do
18:24.18KirkburnFirst result
18:25.09Kirkburn(e.g. "D:\Warcraft III\Warcraft III.exe" -window )
18:28.20DuTempetediff page has +side green background red text?
18:28.40Adyssince the 1.12 upgrade
18:28.50DuTempeteyeah, I figured, but ewww
18:29.29DuTempeteI like the green text :(
18:34.15Gourrayeah I preferred the green text as well
18:36.23KirkburnYou wanted green text did you?
18:36.36KirkburnYou should try it now then :P
18:37.36GourraI see no difference..
18:39.40KirkburnYou should also refresh
18:39.45KirkburnOh, and use the new skin :P
18:40.45Gourra oh god my eyes
18:42.46KirkburnThat skin isn't supported
18:43.15Gourrawhich ones are then?
18:45.03Gourraand quartz themes aren't looking good at all..
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18:45.46KirkburnTry that again ...
18:45.48KirkburnUse the one on my talk page
18:51.40DuTempetelooks good, Kirkburn ;)
18:51.49Osenew skin live?
18:51.59Gourrayeah looks very good with the last update
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18:55.41KirkburnTurned off Azureus for now
18:59.38MentalPowerrouter dying?
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19:06.09pcjwhat did you want ose
19:07.03Oseoh yes, I was wondering about how your AJAX thingy works?
19:07.11pcjuh which one
19:08.00KirkburnMentalPower, nah, it just hates Azureus
19:11.51Osepcj: well, i'm trying to create a standard server page layout emplate thingy, and I was wondering whether or not to include the guild list and some stuff with it
19:13.02pcjuh what do you want me to tell you
19:14.08OseI don't know really, i'm just trying to figure out what would work in a good way...
19:14.53Osekirkburn, couldn't it be possible to have the cvn ignore changes done in a users OWN userspace?
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19:15.38pcjor at least ignore a certain group of users
19:15.41KirkburnNot really
19:16.03Osebtw pcj, how about writing a nice little description of how to use the ajax template on its talk?
19:16.22pcjUhm, it's still just a concept piece
19:16.30pcjIf it gets approved then I'll issue documentation
19:16.52pcjIf you want to play around with it, just check out the source code of my examples
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19:19.31Osewhere can I find them?
19:28.48Osepcj: can I use links with [[ ]] too?
19:30.02pcjwhy would you want to do that...
19:30.15Oseto use the link [[/Guilds]]
19:30.38OseI couldn't get it to work...
19:30.47pcjUh it has to be a full URL
19:31.05Gourra[[/Guilds|Guilds]] at head= ?
19:31.25Gourraasking ose
19:31.35GourraI'm not sure what he meant so..
19:32.55OseThe point is that i'm trying to include it into my template. When I use a template containing [[/Guilds]] on a page, the link will be [[<page with template>/Guilds]]
19:33.43Gourra[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Guilds]] ?
19:33.48pcjok put |target={{FULLPAGENAME}}/Guilds
19:38.18Ose nice
19:41.10Oseanyway, I really want people to help me do this thing. One persons opinions isn't enough... I want opinions on design, use, content and more, kk?
19:41.54Osesee for more info
19:42.46Gourrathe guild directory link is fine imo, no need to put it in {{ajax}}
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19:45.03Oseyour opinion is taken into consideration :P
19:46.01pcjding exalted sso ._.
19:46.44Osenow gief them 1k gold and get shiny titlez
19:47.24Oseshould I include this in ?
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20:06.15KirkburnGaming meeting on #wikia-gaming now
20:08.13pcjwhat's it about kirkburn
20:09.30KirkburnGaming stuff
20:10.15pcjis there a reason for the meeting or did you guys just feel like having one
20:10.30Kirkburnpcj, we've been doing these every week for months
20:10.45pcjyeah, the times i went nothing happened
20:11.15KirkburnI have no response for that :/
20:11.30KirkburnOnly that you can't have been going when the meetings occured
20:12.06pcji can paste you the logs...
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20:18.49Kirkburnpcj, are you deliberately trying to annoy me?
20:19.20pcjno i'm just wondering why you seem to be wanting to conceal the subjects of the meetings
20:19.33pcjwouldn't you get more participation if you told people what it was about
20:19.54kirbypcj: we discuss Wikia's gaming hubs and the gaming wikis it encompasses, like we've done every week for months
20:21.51pcjwell why consolidate that into meetings instead of ongoing
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20:22.16KirkburnBecause meetings work better
20:22.25KirkburnThey get more people and more talk
20:22.37KirkburnAnd "conceal the subjects of the meetings", are you insane?
20:22.40KirkburnWelcome Wulf4
20:22.45Wulf4what's the API function to Ping the minimap?
20:25.23pcjkirkburn calm down, i'm just asking what's going on, don't freak out
20:25.30Osehmm... kirkburn, can you make sure the sitenotice look is included in the monaco.css? I imported the theme into gaming.wikia, but the sitenotice looks ugly-fugle
20:26.25Kirkburnpcj, when you're trying to run a meeting with a few minutes notice and someone comes in sarcastically complaining about how quiet it was, and asking stupid question ... yes, I feel justified
20:26.53pcji wasn't being sarcastic...
20:26.57pcjyou need to back off
20:27.00KirkburnOse, yeah, probably
20:27.30Kirkburn"<pcj> how exciting" ... apparently I misread that then
20:27.42pcjapparently so
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21:03.16Kirkburnpcj, sorry for biting your head off, but setting up a meeting is stressful, so tread lightly
21:03.42pcjwhy isn't pansola running it
21:03.48KirkburnLaptop problems
21:04.01KirkburnWhich I heard about 3 minutes before start time
21:04.30KirkburnAnyway, most meetings are this busy, so I still don't know why you think they aren't :P
21:04.41KirkburnStill working on getting more wikis "in the know"
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21:18.48|Pixel|(dunno if it hasn't been posted yet)
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21:25.34KirkburnAah, it's Fisker- in disguise
21:25.51KirkburnHow long have you been swapping bodies, pcj?
21:26.07pcjever since the incident
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21:51.06pcjdouble-click ftl
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21:51.16Kirkburnpcj, heh
21:53.33foxlitGP: "Matt Damon’s Mom Blasts Violent Video Games… Meanwhile, Bourne Conspiracy Ships in June"
21:54.00foxlitIndeed, but look at the potential
21:54.12foxlit"Matt Damon" + "Your Mum" == ??? == PROFIT!
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22:26.55GourraKirkburn: "Your guide to the World of Warcraft" ?
22:27.19GourraI'm so slow.
22:27.34Gourraafter all it's 12:27 pm and I should be sleeping.
22:37.30[Liquidor]Show me the love and kiss this gnome. She wants you ! :)
22:38.36MentalPower[Liquidor]: spammer!
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22:50.37KeolahI want to throttle my bf.
22:51.21KeolahAnd tell him, you wanna know why mobs keep going after you? Because you keep opening with a frost bolt crit instead of letting the prot pally attack first, damnit :P
22:52.54KeolahAnd then he promptly goes into arcane missiles so they just ignore righteous defense...
22:53.30DuTempetenext time hed oes it, Keolah, just stand and watch
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22:54.08Krolmor2g'day... or night
22:54.11DuTempeteAnd if he asks why, tell him, "Well, I just thought since you don't seem to care who has agro, you wanted to solo it."
22:55.14Keolahand when he was trying to get a kaliri wing for kaliri stew, I was flying back and forth trying to figure out where the hell he was and what he was doing, meanwhile he was dying because the twit didn't even tell me he was attacking anything :p
22:55.33DuTempeteSeriously... your man is an idiot.
22:55.50KeolahMy man really ought to be the one tanking ;p
22:55.54DuTempeteBut, you can't have Kirkburn.  He's mine.
22:56.38KirkburnSince the skin is going live in not very long ... anyone got any feedback on the menu?
22:56.47AdysTHEY SUCK
22:56.48AdysYOU SUCK
22:57.02AdysAny more feedback needed?
22:57.02DuTempetethe menu?
22:57.24KirkburnSidebar menu
22:58.37DuTempeteWhy have "WoWWiki Portals" if there are already links to them in the top menu?
23:00.15DuTempeteJust seems unecessary
23:00.23DuTempeteclutter in the sidebar
23:00.26DuTempeteotherwise it's great
23:01.00DuTempetecould add a help tree, though
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23:10.26pcjStill don't really see the point of "Featured users"
23:13.58pcjIRC channel info could possibly be a bit more prominent
23:14.35pcjand yeah on dutempete's portals point
23:17.43pcjCommunity > WoWWiki:Projects should maybe link to a more comprehensive page than just the implemented policy and a link to a category?
23:18.05pcjerr, rather make WW:Projects more helpful
23:20.46KirkburnYeah, I know it's not great, I thought by putting it up there it would give it more of a push
23:21.23KirkburnFor the portals, I have them there to help introduce them to those less familiar with the concept
23:21.42KirkburnHelp tree is a very good idea
23:22.16KirkburnSometimes I think people don't realise the top level in a list is also a link
23:22.43KirkburnHelp under a different level to community?
23:24.18DuTempeteI'd rather see it on the top level
23:24.18KirkburnFeatured users is indeed pointless
23:24.19DuTempetealways was top level in the last skin
23:24.46KirkburnIt's in the toolbox atm
23:24.46DuTempeteI don't think "Community" lends itself to help articles
23:25.29Krolmor2gawd.. to mal'ganis or to archimonde?
23:25.45DuTempeteI'm glad it's there, but I'd rather see it in the menu tree... it's a pain in the ass to find the right article sometimes
23:26.12DuTempeteand I think it would be nice, and easier to navigate if it were a one click thing via the menu tree
23:26.41KirkburnAdded Help, removed featured users
23:26.46KirkburnMay take a short while to show up
23:27.09Kirkburn(cache ftw)
23:27.16KirkburnBtw, any OpenDNS users around?
23:27.54KirkburnWondering if I should switch :P
23:28.09KirkburnSaw a review of it in my PC Format, looks v cool
23:28.13AdysWell, it's good
23:28.39KirkburnMight try it later
23:28.41Adysthe only problem is some ISPs go ahead and block some stuff from them once in a while
23:29.39Adysbut if you got a decent ISP its really cool
23:29.48KirkburnChanged "Top Content" to "Popular Content"
23:29.58KirkburnAdys, dunno about that
23:30.10Adyswhats your isp?
23:30.26KirkburnVirgin Media
23:31.11KirkburnDuTempete, how's your help stuff coming? :P
23:31.20AdysGo ahead then, they are ok
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23:34.00Adystwo so far in the last 3 hours its great
23:34.50Adysgrrr damnit epiphany, switch to webkit already
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23:45.26DuTempeteKirkburn, I'm still a few pages off.  Been distracted this week :P
23:45.54DuTempetemeow :P
23:48.32DuTempetenight Adys
23:49.27Krolmor2guys... anybody here plays in archimonde or mal'ganis? i'like to confirm the huge difference in horde and ally numbers
23:51.55KirkburnKrolmor2, remember to define US or EU. (I don't know of anyone on either side, sorry)
23:52.11Krolmor2sorry - US
23:55.14DuTempeteKrolmor2 try
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23:59.23Krolmor2yeah, I'm there right now, but the difference in numbers is so high, data seems a bit wacky

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