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01:01.13 | Dick | I hate this name. |
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01:16.12 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Blizzplanet Interviews Ludo Lullabi & Exclusive WoW issue# 4 Preview - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2129 |
01:20.15 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Kalgan speaks! Shamans getting buffed (hopefully) in 2.4 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/20/kalgan-speaks-shamans-getting-buffed-hopefully-in-2-4/ |
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02:01.26 | Navell | hello |
02:01.45 | PhotoJim | hey Navell |
02:01.54 | DuTempete | hiya Navell |
02:02.20 | Navell | hey whats up? Maybe you guys can help me, im trying to get wow to run on Suse 10.3 |
02:03.23 | PhotoJim | you're a glutton for punishment :) |
02:03.30 | Navell | hehe? |
02:03.35 | PhotoJim | I love Linux but I haven't been so brave as to get stuff running under Wine yet. |
02:03.59 | Navell | had a spare comp, and ive read a lot about how it runs "so smooth and fast one wine" |
02:04.21 | PhotoJim | Worth a try then. |
02:04.26 | PhotoJim | It depends on your video card. |
02:04.37 | Navell | so i decided to try it and im pretty far, got it to run... for a little bit lol, but it quits with an error message |
02:05.00 | PhotoJim | Some video cards aren't fully supported by Linux. Some are. If you have an nVidia video card, and use the proprietary nVidia driver, I'd expect really good performance. Not so sure with ATI. the Intel chipsets are pretty well supported by Linux, too. |
02:05.04 | PhotoJim | hmm. |
02:05.57 | Navell | its an intel 915G, and it runs better with direct x than opengl so far, ive followed the guide on the website but its still not playable |
02:06.36 | ruprecht | [The Master's Key] hooray |
02:08.09 | PhotoJim | Navell: I'm honestly not sure, but I suggest posting on one of the WoW forums. I know there are people who have gotten it running, and without huge difficulties. |
02:08.33 | PhotoJim | Navell: if it's a SuSe-specific problem I couldn't help you either, alas. I use Ubuntu and Debian. |
02:08.51 | myke54142 | wow can run on a 915? |
02:09.00 | Navell | hmm k thanks ill try the fourms |
02:09.07 | Navell | it ran under windows on it |
02:09.11 | myke54142 | ruprecht wish i could get a group for mech and arc :/ |
02:09.35 | PhotoJim | what's wrong with the 915? |
02:09.43 | myke54142 | for 3d gaming? |
02:09.53 | myke54142 | i'm sure it's fine enough for desktop and video playback |
02:10.49 | Navell | yeah it ran wow good, and it runs it also on linux, but i keep getting an error and the game quits, im trying to find an updated driver for it |
02:11.02 | Navell | intel 915G, its onboard |
02:11.38 | PhotoJim | my desktop has onboard Intel graphics, probably not that different. works ok. I won't say it's optimal but it's pretty reasonable, until I get a proper video card. |
02:13.45 | Navell | yeah, it should run, the guide on the wiki is pretty thorough, and ive got it running |
02:13.51 | myke54142 | 4 pipelines, 333mhz, 1.3gpix fillrate |
02:14.00 | myke54142 | i guess you can play the game at least |
02:14.10 | myke54142 | but it's gotta be painful in underbog |
02:14.59 | myke54142 | navell: if you're doing it on linux get the latest driver from the opensource project |
02:16.15 | Navell | could you give me a link? |
02:17.18 | myke54142 | http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ |
02:17.35 | myke54142 | just recompile the driver and put the resulting binary in place of your current one |
02:17.40 | myke54142 | in the X driver modules directory |
02:17.50 | myke54142 | the insturctions make it sound a lot harder than it is |
02:18.07 | Navell | cool thanks ill give it a try |
02:18.27 | myke54142 | first check your xorg.log to make sure you don't already have it |
02:18.33 | myke54142 | depends on the disto and version |
02:19.18 | Navell | hmm, im pretty sure its already got it, just got the newest version of suse |
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02:23.20 | myke54142 | it runs under windows? why are you trying under linux? |
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02:26.51 | Sandwichman2448 | Vandalulz is on the wiki! |
02:32.15 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: PTR Notes: Undocumented changes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/20/ptr-notes-undocumented-changes/ |
02:32.49 | montagg | Sandwichman2448: GeneralBlazer? |
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02:34.08 | Sandwichman2448 | No. |
02:34.13 | Sandwichman2448 | Perhaps. |
02:34.16 | Sandwichman2448 | Lemme look. |
02:34.37 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Zezim |
02:34.42 | Sandwichman2448 | What I ment |
02:34.43 | Navell | everyone who has done it succesfully says they get an average of 40-70fps |
02:34.57 | Navell | just an experiment |
02:36.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh. Gen is fine. That is Addy's turf. |
02:37.36 | montagg | Sandwichman2448: Wasn't sure about Gen. Added some weird stuff to What Wrath of the Lich King is not, but I have no experience with that article. |
02:38.00 | Sandwichman2448 | It is a joke. As long as it is not rude, it can stay. |
02:38.11 | myke54142 | navell: tbh i don't think your card can do that |
02:38.25 | montagg | Sounds good to me. |
02:38.26 | myke54142 | i get those frame rates under windows, but only sicne i upgraded |
02:38.47 | myke54142 | but that 915 only has 4 pipes, i dont' see how it's possible |
02:38.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Montagg: Do you think it is bad? |
02:39.04 | montagg | Sandwichman2448: Nope. I just saw him add some stuff in l33t, but he changed it. |
02:39.31 | montagg | I also hadn't really read the article, so I was just looking for someone to shoot down with a block. ;-) |
02:39.37 | myke54142 | navell: i woudl recommend getting a $40 used card off ebay |
02:39.44 | myke54142 | like the x700pro i just sold |
02:40.24 | myke54142 | also the shared memory will kill performance too |
02:40.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Montagg: Do you want me to shoot him? |
02:41.32 | Navell | hmm coo ill look into gettin a card, a 256 good enough? |
02:41.37 | montagg | Sandwichman2448: I think it's okay. It's a silly article, so as long as the contributions are silly, appropriate, and not spam, let him play. |
02:41.39 | myke54142 | yeah that's what i have |
02:41.56 | Sandwichman2448 | montagg: OK. |
02:41.59 | myke54142 | i got a x800xl, a $500 card in 2004, got it for $100 on ebay and coulda gotten it for $60 if i was more patient |
02:42.24 | myke54142 | i have it clamped with vsync so it doesn't go above 60fps, and it gets that most places |
02:42.48 | myke54142 | with 1200x1024 and hi res textures and all sliders at max |
02:44.09 | myke54142 | even my ancient geforce2 beats out a much newer onboard video chipset by a huge margin |
02:44.44 | myke54142 | if you prefer nvidia, you can get a 6800ultra now for cheap and those are still great cards |
02:44.53 | myke54142 | esp for wow which doesn't really use sm3 much if at all |
02:46.13 | myke54142 | high-end video cards hold value well, a high end card from 4 years ago is still much better than a new midrange card |
02:46.29 | myke54142 | you just don't get the newer features like sm3, which for wow doesn't matter |
02:47.46 | Navell | sweet whasts the full name of that card? |
02:47.57 | myke54142 | geforce 6800 ultra |
02:48.04 | myke54142 | although any 6800 is probably enough |
02:48.11 | myke54142 | if you like nvidia |
02:48.26 | myke54142 | i tend to ati, and there the x800 series is the best price/perf for a used wow card imho |
02:48.52 | myke54142 | if you ahve a bit more money and play other games, look at a x1900 series, esp a x1950xtx if you can find a good deal on one |
02:49.03 | myke54142 | tho that's much more than you need for wow |
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02:49.52 | myke54142 | it's nice not to bog down to 6fps in town and have taxi flights turn into slideshows when entering town |
02:50.16 | Navell | lol ha coo |
02:50.23 | Navell | thanks ill probably get that card |
02:50.24 | myke54142 | and the hires textures make the whole game look much nicer |
02:50.37 | myke54142 | wikipedia has great comparison charts for both nvidia and ati cards |
02:55.07 | myke54142 | what cpu do you have? |
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02:58.49 | Navell | p4 ht |
02:59.00 | Navell | suse says its two cores...O_o |
02:59.02 | myke54142 | hmm, what speed is it? |
02:59.09 | myke54142 | that's the hyperthreading |
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02:59.44 | myke54142 | it may be the cpu too |
02:59.50 | myke54142 | i had a 2.0 p4 oc'd to 2.6 |
02:59.55 | myke54142 | at first i thought it wsa the video card |
03:00.04 | myke54142 | but when i upgraded that i still got poor fps in town |
03:00.25 | myke54142 | when i finally got a e4300 it was night/day |
03:00.42 | myke54142 | went from 6fps to 60fps, from everything turned to min to everything at max |
03:00.45 | myke54142 | on the same video card |
03:01.03 | Navell | oh thats sweet |
03:01.55 | myke54142 | a year and a half ago i built a budget gaming box for my gf, amd 3500+, and that was a very good performer for wow |
03:02.04 | myke54142 | so it depends what p4 you have |
03:03.23 | myke54142 | i went from 1 to 70 on my old hw, so wow is playable and ok, but on better hw everything is just so much nicer |
03:03.28 | myke54142 | it's a joy now just to run around in town |
03:03.37 | myke54142 | with everything hi res and super smooth |
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03:04.31 | myke54142 | and if you play first person shooters it'll be the difference between a game being unplayable at min settings and having it good even at mid to mid-high settings |
03:05.03 | myke54142 | how much memory do you have? |
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03:45.37 | Sky2042 | freaking a, want to stab zeal now. |
03:53.16 | Kaso | that seems a little severe |
03:54.07 | Sky2042 | him and fandy. jebus. |
03:54.16 | Sky2042 | both of em need to be slapped. |
04:04.47 | Sky2042 | I totally just cursed out Zeal and Fandy |
04:04.50 | Sky2042 | that felt gooooooood. |
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04:20.08 | montagg | Three books were just delivered to my door: Yochai Benkler's "The Wealth of Networks," Siva Vaidyanathan's "Copyrights and Copywrongs," and Lawrence Lessig's "The Future of Ideas." Weighing in at about three pounds, five inches height, and 933 pages thick. |
04:20.21 | montagg | Just thinking about reading these is making my brain hurt. |
04:20.56 | Sky2042 | montagg: school, or pleasure, or businesss? |
04:21.05 | montagg | Sky2042: The latter two. |
04:21.09 | montagg | Documentary. |
04:21.13 | Sky2042 | i would guess not the middle... |
04:24.59 | montagg | The first book, "The Wealth of Networks," is basically about wikis, but more broadly about crowdsourcing. Thick as hell, but neat ideas. |
04:29.48 | montagg | And yes, I know, I'm a hugeass geek, but it's something to read while I'm grinding Netherwing rep and waiting for Warhammer Online. |
04:30.11 | Sky2042 | montagg: it works. |
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04:49.58 | pcj | what happened sky |
04:52.43 | Sky2042 | pcj: zeal posted on VP. just being a general ass. i got pissed, and left them both a nasty note. |
04:53.00 | pcj | ooh |
04:59.07 | pcj | wow i think fandy was being worse tho |
04:59.34 | pcj | they are both being damn stubborn |
05:00.14 | Sky2042 | i left it directed at both of them. |
05:15.48 | [NewsBot] | Zero Punctuation: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee Goes to GDC - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2949-Zero-Punctuation-Yahtzee-Goes-to-GDC |
05:15.59 | Sky2042 | yay wiki darma |
05:21.59 | Sky2042 | WoWTempete: I think I may have just about redone your essay, in not so neutral terms. |
05:26.35 | WoWTempete | lol |
05:26.40 | WoWTempete | do I need to go read it? |
05:27.02 | Sky2042 | you might want to. I probably crossed the line, but I was pissed. |
05:27.23 | WoWTempete | pissed? why? |
05:27.28 | WoWTempete | have I missed something? |
05:27.31 | Sky2042 | nah. |
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05:28.11 | Sky2042 | Zeal said some stuff he probably shouldn't have, and I was like, that's enough of that. Then he responded. And then I wrote a 2200 char essay on his response. |
05:40.08 | WoWTempete | Sky2042, *cheer* |
05:40.25 | Sky2042 | well, that makes me feel slightly better about myself. |
05:40.25 | WoWTempete | and now I'm going to respond without even acknowledging it :P |
05:40.32 | Sky2042 | !@#$% |
05:41.49 | Sky2042 | didn't they remove dampen / amp magic, or just one of them, or am i on crack? |
05:41.55 | Sky2042 | no |
05:41.56 | Sky2042 | detect magic |
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06:44.18 | Sky2042 | lol, that's weaksauce |
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06:50.43 | pcj | heh i should be devil's advocate and keep arguing with sky on zeal's behalf |
06:51.22 | Sky2042 | zomg, someone else who agrees with me. and it's pcj, to boot |
06:52.09 | pcj | what, on the fact that both zeal and fandy can be stubborn idiots? did i ever give any indication otherwise |
06:52.35 | Sky2042 | no. you usually argue with me, though. :P |
06:53.12 | pcj | Like when |
06:53.33 | Sky2042 | hmm... nothing off the top of my head. but that's what comes to mind. |
06:53.35 | Sky2042 | oh well. |
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07:01.23 | Sky2042 | wonder what would happen if k b were to wake up and find himself banned because his internet needs help |
07:02.05 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowblues.com/us/which-battlegroup-is-bg-9-4665466059.html |
07:02.07 | Sky2042 | lol |
07:04.30 | Sky2042 | go kalgan! http://www.wowblues.com/us/kalgan-comments-on-shaman-in-general-4665326036.html |
07:05.09 | WoWTempete | why would he be banned for that? |
07:06.14 | WoWTempete | Sky2042 ? |
07:06.29 | Sky2042 | lol |
07:06.32 | Sky2042 | i was joking there. |
07:06.43 | Sky2042 | also, to stop him from reconnecting. |
07:06.45 | WoWTempete | and it isn't his net. His router is dying :( |
07:07.09 | WoWTempete | he's supposed to go out with his flatmates tomorrow to get a new one. |
07:07.12 | Sky2042 | heh |
07:08.52 | DuTempete | and please, don't glorify zeal's crazy with a response. |
07:09.09 | DuTempete | you're only encouraging their behaviour |
07:09.22 | Sky2042 | mmm? |
07:09.37 | DuTempete | he posted something new |
07:09.39 | Sky2042 | i leaving it with my rant, if that's what's you meant. |
07:09.45 | DuTempete | and even more ridiculous |
07:10.36 | Sky2042 | the little blurb he left? yeah, i decided if he was going to lay off either way, so would i :P |
07:12.22 | pcj | OK, worked past that |
07:13.52 | Sky2042 | pcj posted sense. yayyyyyy-something-to-work-with. |
07:15.35 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Muzlit |
07:16.30 | Sky2042 | done |
07:16.37 | Sky2042 | ping me next time to ensure i'm looking at the page |
07:16.39 | Sky2042 | >.> |
07:29.40 | DuTempete | anyone save the link to the test wiki for 1.12? |
07:30.11 | DuTempete | Kirk showed us a couple days ago, but I can't remember what it was. |
07:30.12 | pcj | whoa, I missed it? |
07:30.23 | pcj | no he didn't... |
07:32.01 | DuTempete | yeah, he did |
07:32.02 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: don't think he's yet linked it. |
07:32.04 | DuTempete | lemme find it |
07:32.14 | Sky2042 | well, go hunt it down in the logs, i guess. |
07:32.19 | Sky2042 | ~wwlogs |
07:32.19 | infobot | You are probably looking for http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowwiki/ |
07:32.22 | DuTempete | checking my history |
07:32.27 | Sky2042 | that works too. |
07:36.38 | DuTempete | Damn, maybe he only showed me. |
07:36.48 | DuTempete | I could've sworn he'd linked it in IRC. |
07:36.49 | pcj | Wouldn't it be in your history then |
07:36.55 | DuTempete | it is in my history |
07:37.04 | Sky2042 | orly?!?! |
07:37.06 | Sky2042 | :P |
07:37.06 | DuTempete | but I'm not going to show it to anyone if it was only meant fo rme :P |
07:37.15 | Sky2042 | nah |
07:37.36 | Sky2042 | he said on VP i think that he wanted to drop a link, but the wikia was broken or something |
07:37.37 | Sky2042 | hmm |
07:37.46 | DuTempete | the skin is broken |
07:37.49 | DuTempete | it looks like shit :P |
07:37.55 | Sky2042 | eh |
07:38.00 | pcj | w/e |
07:38.20 | DuTempete | heh... there's no CSS at all |
07:38.59 | DuTempete | from what I understand, common.css doesn't work with 1.12 |
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07:39.55 | Sky2042 | o_O |
07:40.03 | Sky2042 | that's not... so hard to deal with |
07:40.40 | Sky2042 | just merge the stuff to monobook / quartz / monaco? or to wowwiki that needs it. |
07:40.53 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | can i ask q's about the game here? |
07:41.22 | DuTempete | ok, my piee said |
07:41.24 | DuTempete | *piece |
07:41.39 | Sky2042 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW: yup. |
07:41.42 | DuTempete | go right ahead p`s{SL`WC}|WoW |
07:42.11 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | hello all... i'm a n00b to WoW and i'm trying to fish at the crystalbrook river near ammen ford, and nothing happens when i cast the net. not even murlocs. sometimes it appears in red at the top of the screen 'requires %s' |
07:42.36 | Sky2042 | requires %s? |
07:42.39 | DuTempete | and Sky2042, no, it can be fixed, just going to take some effort. |
07:42.43 | Sky2042 | or actual numbers? |
07:42.52 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: server side fixing? |
07:42.52 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | yes, that's it just %s |
07:43.02 | DuTempete | shouldn't be server side |
07:43.11 | Sky2042 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW: are you on a private server or a real server? |
07:43.31 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | private, does that matter? |
07:43.43 | Sky2042 | means bad coding. |
07:43.46 | Sky2042 | possibly |
07:43.48 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | oh. |
07:43.50 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | kk |
07:44.07 | Sky2042 | and we don't allow talk of private-specific stuff in here. if you would like to continue, feel free to ask generally nooby questions. |
07:44.29 | DuTempete | I don't know exactly how the CSS is going to work when 1.12 comes out, but my guess is there'll be no common page, just separate ones like we do beside common.css. |
07:44.42 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: that's what i just said xD |
07:45.01 | DuTempete | oh, I didn't understand |
07:45.05 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | ok.. i didn't know, as i'm noob.. |
07:45.09 | p`s{SL`WC}|WoW | ty for letting me know. |
07:45.11 | Sky2042 | i guessed that much, DuTempete hehe |
07:45.25 | DuTempete | :P |
07:45.59 | DuTempete | anywho... I'm going to bed. |
07:46.11 | DuTempete | Please don't light anyhthing on fire while I'm gone. :P |
07:46.20 | DuTempete | That includes tempers. |
07:46.46 | Sky2042 | well, i got zeal to simmering. does that count? |
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07:48.35 | zZzTempete | night night :P |
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10:06.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | CSS in 1.12 - all the same CSS pages stay, but we add a Monaco one to support as well (same design as wowwiki.css) |
10:07.12 | Kirkburn | The tets site was just broken :P |
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10:08.01 | Kirkburn | (still is_ |
10:08.31 | sannse | Kirkburn: need me to prod someone about that? or have you got it? |
10:08.36 | sannse | eeps! @ |
10:08.40 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o sannse] by sannse |
10:08.44 | Kirkburn | :O |
10:08.51 | sannse | ;) |
10:09.00 | Kirkburn | Nah, pestering Nef via Skype is half my job :) |
10:09.16 | sannse | *g* .. pretty much the whole of mine |
10:09.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
10:09.50 | Kirkburn | Who isn't on 1.12 now? I noticed Uncyc and MA are now, so does that leave just Gamewikis and us? |
10:10.25 | Fisker- | uncyclopedia is shit |
10:10.26 | Fisker- | btw |
10:10.31 | sannse | and Central |
10:10.36 | Kirkburn | sannse, ah k |
10:10.47 | sannse | Fisker-: you aren't looking at the right bits :) |
10:10.55 | sannse | try my articles :P |
10:12.16 | Kirkburn | heh |
10:28.05 | foxlit | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?limit=250&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Sannse&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 |
10:28.50 | sannse | that's me |
10:28.58 | foxlit | That's mostly boring |
10:29.24 | sannse | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/I_lost_your_pet_ferret <-- well this is my current favourite article (not by me) |
10:29.46 | sannse | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Sannse <-- this has the list of my articles (all four of them) |
10:29.59 | sannse | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:Sannse/Gallery <-- and this is my photoshopping |
10:30.04 | sannse | any better? :) |
10:34.19 | Kirkburn | lol @ Cliff Richard :) |
10:35.28 | Kirkburn | What is it with people offering me admin positions? |
10:36.43 | Kirkburn | It doesn't even give me more power :( |
10:37.24 | Kirkburn | Damn, someone knocked me off my top spot in Audiosurf for Holst's Mars |
10:37.37 | foxlit | "Warning. This Article contains the spoiler that The Player (YOU) is CABAL in all series, so, if you don't want to find out that The Player (YOU) is CABAL in all series, which you did, don't read it. |
10:37.38 | foxlit | Because The Player (YOU) is CABAL ." |
10:37.45 | foxlit | We need some of those spoiler tags |
10:38.08 | Kirkburn | lol |
10:38.50 | Kalroth | hahah |
10:39.17 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: Do you want to admin my website?! |
10:40.04 | sannse | *g* |
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10:41.50 | foxlit | "Many gamers have been of the opinion that the graphics in Crysis are very good. However what they don't know is that they have been deceived, as the visuals which you see on your computer screen are the output from a video camera held by a poor African child on a remote island, trying to earn money for his family. |
10:41.51 | foxlit | " |
10:44.26 | sannse | have you seen the standard spoiler there? http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler |
10:45.21 | sannse | (it also changes on a new pageload) |
10:50.28 | Kalroth | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HowTo:Stop_Playing_the_Accordion Handy! |
10:51.58 | sannse | heh, so who was it that was saying it was boring? ;) |
10:52.15 | Kirkburn | So awesome - http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Rumsfeld_Origami.gif |
10:52.30 | Kalroth | hahaha |
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11:09.25 | Kirkburn | o_O |
11:09.33 | Kirkburn | sannse! |
11:10.00 | Kirkburn | Ah, sorry, nvm |
11:10.04 | sannse | ? |
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11:10.17 | Kirkburn | I thought it was wiki specific :( |
11:10.39 | sannse | nah, sorry |
11:11.03 | Kirkburn | What's being done? |
11:11.22 | sannse | reboot of the master database |
11:11.28 | Kirkburn | fun |
11:11.50 | sannse | Emil thinks it should take about 10 minutes, so said 30... which I interpreted as an hour of course ;) |
11:12.06 | Kirkburn | :P |
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11:51.51 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Fordham Prof Loves Obama, Hates His Video Game Stance - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/fordham-prof-loves-obama-hates-his-video-game-stance/ |
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13:04.19 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: I get by without a little help from my friends - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/breakfast-topic-i-get-by-without-a-little-help-from-my-friends/ |
13:04.32 | foxlit | That better be about the song |
13:09.53 | _adan_ | Do anyone knows where I can get larger version of this image? http://www.wowwiki.com/images/1/11/Alliance_32.gif |
13:11.52 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: How Gamer Scored Face Time with Supreme Court Justice - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/how-gamer-scored-face-time-with-supreme-court-justice/ |
13:12.04 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: GDC: Free-Speech Lawyer Tells Game Biz to Defend Against “Junk Science†- http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/gdc-free-speech-lawyer-tells-game-biz-to-defend-against-junk-science/ |
13:14.27 | fric | is it allowed to upload images from wow's official site to the wiki? or is that copyright violation? |
13:16.14 | fric | nevermind |
13:16.14 | fric | :) |
13:21.04 | fric | foxlit: you still around? |
13:21.43 | foxlit | . |
13:21.57 | fric | :) |
13:22.01 | fric | you uploaded this, ye? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon_Alliance.png |
13:23.16 | foxlit | yes |
13:23.43 | fric | I would like to upload this; http://eu.wowarmory.com/images/icon-alliance.gif but it's basically the same. would you mind? :P |
13:24.16 | fric | I'd like to use it in a list of arena teams |
13:25.42 | fric | Image:Icon_Alliance.png|20px doesn't look as good |
13:27.59 | foxlit | Use |18px? |
13:28.21 | foxlit | the black background is a wiki bug that should go away sooner :) |
13:29.42 | fric | ah :) cause that's what bothers me :p |
13:29.52 | fric | the edgess getting black dots |
13:30.01 | foxlit | yeah, GD issue, sucks :( |
13:30.29 | foxlit | It will be fixed once we update to 1.12, I think |
13:33.07 | fric | nice. guess I'll stick with a resize then :) it doesn't look _that_ bad to be honest :p |
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13:47.40 | pcj | morning pplz |
13:53.26 | Kirkburn | morning |
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13:56.51 | Kirkburn | Vote, vote! http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Articles_with_galleries |
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14:04.05 | Ose | hai guise |
14:05.32 | Ose | ~seen foxbot |
14:05.35 | infobot | foxbot <n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2d 16h 48m 56s ago, saying: 'Template:Userbox has been transcluded in 807 pages.'. |
14:08.20 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Well Fed Buff: A feast of fresh fish - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/well-fed-buff-a-feast-of-fresh-fish/ |
14:13.44 | pcj | I like how in the "And now for a little focus" section they got even more unfocused |
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14:22.29 | foxlit | ? |
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14:37.18 | viki- | hey |
14:40.01 | Kirkburn | viki-, welcome |
14:44.10 | fric | how do people actually count their contributions? does everyone do it by hand? :P |
14:47.39 | pcj | i use an abacus |
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14:48.42 | fric | lol |
14:48.51 | foxlit | that's not what your userpage says :P |
14:51.17 | pcj | the peasants use an abacus, duh |
14:52.14 | foxlit | massively multipeasant online cbacus? |
14:53.54 | pcj | curse's site is painfully slow |
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14:57.09 | Kirkburn | fric, with difficulty, or a bot |
14:57.36 | Kirkburn | You either count your contribs page or you use foxlit's botted template |
15:00.19 | fric | I don't have that many, so counting by hand probably isn't hard in my case. That bot sounds cool tho, where can I find it? |
15:04.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: The Magisters' mural - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/around-azeroth-the-magisters-mural/ |
15:09.56 | Kirkburn | fric, add {{User Editcount}} to your userpage |
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15:12.49 | fric | Oh. so that's a bot updating that? Because when I added it and looked at the preview it only had the default values (9001) :P |
15:14.24 | Kirkburn | aye |
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15:26.19 | Kirkburn | Btw, this is some amazing video - http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/19/gdc08-exclusive-mova-brings-lifelike-motion-capture-to-unreal-e/ |
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15:32.55 | Fisker- | looks like shit |
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15:56.29 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: 2008 GDC: Pardo "Nay-Says" Micro-Transaction Model On WoW - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2132 |
15:56.35 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: PlanetDiablo Q&A w/ Onyx - Back to Hellfire Mod - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2131 |
15:57.52 | Kirkburn | pcj, ping |
15:58.23 | Kirkburn | The test site is here - http://fp027.sjc.wikia-inc.com/Main_Page |
15:59.11 | Kirkburn | Report issues on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Problems |
16:03.58 | Fisker- | why does the site look like hell btw? |
16:04.28 | Fisker- | lol |
16:04.34 | Fisker- | "Report a problem" |
16:04.37 | Fisker- | kinda redundant |
16:08.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Is Blizzard properly seperating PvP and PvE nerfs? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/is-blizzard-properly-seperating-pvp-and-pve-nerfs/ |
16:08.45 | Kirkburn | It's a test site, and report a problem is standard Wikia extension |
16:09.19 | Kirkburn | The wowwiki and images aren't present - the important bit is whether the code is broken *anywhere* |
16:10.53 | Kirkburn | "Report a problem" is better than using talk pages to discuss such problems, and gives us a centralised database of stuff to fix |
16:12.50 | Fisker- | thought the new test site was to test a new layout :o |
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16:15.12 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, it's to test 1.12 |
16:15.21 | Kirkburn | Skins are present though |
16:15.32 | pcj | what is? |
16:15.34 | pcj | link plz |
16:15.40 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Problems |
16:15.43 | Kirkburn | Link on there |
16:18.53 | pcj | monobook skin = fail |
16:24.12 | pcj | where's the wowwiki skin |
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16:30.04 | Kirkburn_ | yay disconnects |
16:31.36 | pcj | god i never knew how awful browsing wowwiki was in monobook |
16:31.49 | pcj | the {{neutral}} template should be changed |
16:32.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Here's M'uru (spoilers) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/heres-muru-spoilers/ |
16:32.34 | pcj | should use class-based coloring for better display in monobook |
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16:34.08 | Kirkburn | Browsing wowwiki in monobook is a problem? News to me - been doing it for a long time now |
16:34.08 | Kirkburn | Morning Gryphen |
16:34.09 | pcj | Some of the pictures and templates look terrible |
16:34.14 | pcj | Like {{neutral}} as I said |
16:34.39 | pcj | I guess my main problem is my changes to the site navigation aren't set up to work on monobook |
16:34.44 | Kirkburn | :) |
16:34.46 | pcj | *my user JS changes |
16:35.11 | Kirkburn | Anything you find, add to that page |
16:35.27 | Gryphen | mornin |
16:35.35 | Kirkburn | Will probably make a VP announcement later |
16:35.35 | pcj | Well {{neutral}} should probably be changed on the main site |
16:35.49 | Kirkburn | pcj, indeed |
16:36.13 | Kirkburn | I'm not going to do it atm though (work) |
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16:38.04 | Kirkburn | d'oh :P |
16:38.22 | pcj | hmm? |
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16:42.50 | pcj | added a report about the preferences page kirkburn |
16:43.01 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Temple is featured? |
16:44.08 | foxlit | with that many red links? |
16:44.10 | Kirkburn | pcj, I've seen before |
16:44.14 | foxlit | With that much junk? :) |
16:45.02 | Kirkburn | foxlit, yes, needs changing |
16:45.06 | pcj | kirkburn is user JS not turned on in that wiki |
16:45.16 | Kirkburn | ZA, MA or SP would probably be good |
16:45.17 | foxlit | how did it get past the featuring process? |
16:45.20 | Kirkburn | pcj, yes |
16:45.26 | pcj | there's a process? |
16:45.34 | Kirkburn | foxlit, didn't have so much when I chose it |
16:46.00 | Kirkburn | There is now, I had to choose some to get us up to 31 choices though |
16:46.15 | foxlit | why do you want to get up to 31 choices? |
16:46.25 | Kirkburn | pcj, wait ... user JS? |
16:46.37 | Kirkburn | The common.js file is blanked |
16:46.45 | foxlit | pcj: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article/Articles |
16:46.48 | Kirkburn | The pref tabs work fine for me |
16:47.44 | pcj | hmm |
16:47.52 | pcj | yeah kirkburn user JS |
16:48.02 | pcj | i tried adding itemtooltips to my monobook.js to see if they worked |
16:48.15 | Kirkburn | Add a report |
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16:52.08 | foxlit | urgh |
16:52.12 | foxlit | who killed the wiki api? |
16:52.37 | foxlit | (on the test site, that is) |
16:53.50 | Kirkburn | foxlit, report it. It may just not be turned on |
16:54.10 | foxlit | too lazy :) |
16:55.05 | Kirkburn | Fine, I added a brief note |
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16:55.21 | Kirkburn | This is for our own benefit |
16:56.35 | pcj | kirkburn, tabs not appearing for me and JS not working *may* be due to that server apparently sucking and being slow |
16:57.27 | Kirkburn | it's possible |
17:02.20 | Kirkburn | pcj, can you try reloading the site (without being logged in) |
17:03.38 | pcj | one sec |
17:03.56 | pcj | aaaa ugly skin |
17:04.03 | Kirkburn | cool, that works |
17:04.05 | pcj | keeeel |
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17:04.19 | pcj | meh, it might be ok |
17:04.27 | pcj | article frame can't be white imo |
17:04.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Chronicle of the Annoying Quest, Episode 21 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/wow-moviewatch-chronicle-of-the-annoying-quest-episode-21/ |
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17:05.01 | pcj | ofc now i can't find anything |
17:05.05 | Kirkburn | Oh, that's not our skin, don't worry :P |
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17:07.42 | pcj | Is it just me or is the "More" link up by the user links not working |
17:09.20 | Kirkburn | Worked for me |
17:10.38 | pcj | Database error |
17:10.39 | pcj | A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: |
17:10.39 | pcj | <PROTECTED> |
17:10.41 | pcj | from within function "". MySQL returned error "3: Error writing file '/tmp/MYef28zj' (Errcode: 28) (sayid.sjc.wikia-inc.com)". |
17:10.52 | Kirkburn | Sidebar? |
17:10.55 | pcj | yeh |
17:11.02 | Kirkburn | Just added it |
17:11.21 | Kirkburn | Weird how it loads part of the page again over there too |
17:11.43 | Kirkburn | lol, and the drop down user menu shows up over there |
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17:12.14 | Kirkburn | Reverting it to monobook for now |
17:16.29 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Australia Prime Minister's Son Jumps to Internet Fame - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2133 |
17:17.03 | pcj | it doesn't appear JS is running at all |
17:17.22 | pcj | ...why is it loading User:Pcj/global.js |
17:19.52 | pcj | ahh |
17:19.55 | pcj | ke |
17:19.56 | pcj | k |
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17:25.33 | Arcaia | Any SSC/TK guilds Alliance PVP [CST/EST] recruiting? |
17:26.59 | sacarasc | there probably are |
17:29.58 | Arcaia | =/ Reasons I ask in an IRC channel instead of the recruitment forum is that I generally feel people that go outside the game to talk about the game have a better understanding of what's going on... and by asking if anyone is recruiting, I don't generally mean the WoW population as a whole, but rather the people and the guilds they represent in the channels in which I posted the LFG message. |
17:31.35 | pcj | 4 lines = IRC wall of text |
17:31.56 | Arcaia | That was two lines for me... get a bigger monitor troll ;P |
17:32.03 | Arcaia | Or a higher resolution. |
17:32.04 | sacarasc | reminded me to check LFG for a new comic though |
17:33.24 | pcj | good idea sacarasc |
17:38.35 | PhotoJim | 7 lines in my 80x25 irssi window :) |
17:39.39 | Kirkburn | Arcaia, this isn't really the right channel to ask - realm specific stuff rarely comes up |
17:39.50 | Kirkburn | pcj, what did you find out about js then? |
17:40.08 | PhotoJim | yes, that's the downside to looking off of the game. there are so many servers. I have yet to serendipitously run into anyone on any of the three servers on which I play. |
17:40.14 | pcj | It's working, except including from wowwiki.com is kind of sucking |
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17:41.11 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kalroth] by ChanServ |
17:41.47 | Kirkburn | PhotoJim, have you coincidentally or shockingly run into them though? ;) |
17:42.30 | PhotoJim | lol... no |
17:42.33 | Kirkburn | pcj, k. Probably not really something to worry about anyway, there's nothing particularly fancy about the js afaik? |
17:43.09 | winkiller | anyone sharp in latin? |
17:43.09 | winkiller | Secundus Vita is a latin phrase meaning 'Second Life'. |
17:43.11 | pcj | My JS is extremely fancy |
17:43.15 | winkiller | I totally don't agree |
17:43.32 | Kirkburn | winkiller, sounds very ... basic |
17:43.53 | winkiller | yeah, not totall wrong :P |
17:43.55 | Kirkburn | Vita Secundus sounds more like it in the first place |
17:43.58 | winkiller | but imho Vita Secunda |
17:44.09 | Kirkburn | Ah, yeah, that's even more like it |
17:44.31 | Kirkburn | Trying to remember by word endings :P |
17:44.38 | Kirkburn | What case is "second"? |
17:44.56 | Kirkburn | Or life. It's so many years ago :( |
17:44.59 | winkiller | lol |
17:45.02 | PhotoJim | I can onlyl help with French... |
17:45.09 | PhotoJim | La Deuxieme Vie |
17:45.17 | PhotoJim | accents don't seem to work properly here |
17:45.28 | winkiller | it's normal nominative |
17:45.56 | pcj | Yeah, I think putting tooltip JS on that site is gonna kill it |
17:46.52 | Kirkburn | pcj, gonna trying activating common.js, and we'll see |
17:46.59 | Kirkburn | It's only us two browsing it :P |
17:47.11 | pcj | I think foxlit was doing stuff too |
17:47.55 | pcj | pwnt |
17:48.20 | winkiller | oh wait, secundus MIGHT have been right if it was a noun in tghe u-declination |
17:48.24 | winkiller | but it isn't |
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17:48.32 | pcj | Well, the JS isn't loading right somehow |
17:49.05 | Kirkburn | pcj, force refresh and you'll see the problem |
17:49.12 | Kirkburn | (let it load for a while) |
17:49.56 | Arcaia | Kirkburn: in regards to your reply earlier, thats why I was looking for Alliance PVP [CST/EST] looking for a guild to transfer to. :P |
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17:52.48 | Kirkburn | pcj, you can only prevent it occuring by disabling browser js, something in common.js is doing it |
17:53.44 | Kirkburn | oh, it's referring to wowwiki.com in the code |
17:53.53 | pcj | YEH |
17:53.57 | pcj | wee caps |
17:54.18 | Kirkburn | your itemtooltips ... hmm, how to change? |
17:54.37 | pcj | you can change it to refer to the local copy |
17:54.46 | Kirkburn | That'd be sensible |
17:54.53 | pcj | http://fp027.sjc.wikia-inc.com/User:Pcj/tooltip.js |
17:56.00 | Kirkburn | That may have worked |
17:57.36 | Kirkburn | yup, worked |
18:04.39 | pcj | afk a bit |
18:08.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Totem Talk: A deep discontent - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/totem-talk-a-deep-discontent/ |
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18:24.24 | Adys | [19:23:26] <mohamed> HI |
18:24.24 | Adys | [19:23:41] <Adys> Go away, I don't like caps |
18:24.24 | Adys | [19:24:05] *** mohamed has quit (Client Quit) |
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18:24.29 | Adys | Am I good |
18:25.35 | Kirkburn | If I catch you doing that here ... |
18:25.42 | Adys | it was in PMs |
18:25.48 | Adys | i dont do that kind of shit in chans |
18:25.57 | Adys | but I get about 2 of those a day |
18:30.47 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_not&curid=118259&diff=1215017&oldid=1214588 :O |
18:33.45 | Adys | dumb |
18:34.23 | Kirkburn | I hope we get a novelisation of WoW and TBC at some point |
18:34.30 | Adys | no chance |
18:34.54 | Kirkburn | The blood elf storyline could manage it |
18:35.00 | sacarasc | "and them some alliance guys teabagged the fallen horde hero..." |
18:35.20 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I meant a novelisation of the story elements in WoW >_> |
18:36.16 | Adys | lol |
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18:38.23 | Adys | Kirkburn: theres just no way this is ever happening :P |
18:38.35 | Kirkburn | why? |
18:38.48 | Adys | World of Devcraft - blzdevact * SVN r1011 /trunk/terrain/gilneas/ /trunk/models/gilneas /trunk/server/zones/gilneas (541 files in 3 dirs deleted): Deleted useless content |
18:39.58 | Adys | ahahaha |
18:40.05 | Adys | "you'll be pleasantly surprised by his answer but Gates revealed to CNet why Microsoft needs Yahoo. From his response, "We have a strategy for competing in the search space that Google dominates today [...]" |
18:40.24 | Adys | set free the orly owl |
18:40.37 | Adys | call the captainobvious emergencies |
18:40.40 | Adys | i dont know, do something |
18:41.09 | Kirkburn | You didn't actually answer my question >_> |
18:41.15 | Adys | i did |
18:41.24 | Adys | devs dont give a shit about old azeroth :P |
18:41.49 | Kirkburn | Yeah, er, not what I was talking about in the slightest |
18:42.00 | Adys | i dont see what you mean then |
18:42.09 | Kirkburn | Novelisation, i.e. a book |
18:42.19 | Adys | oh |
18:42.24 | Adys | well that i cant say anything |
18:42.24 | Kirkburn | Same way we have a novelisation of WC2 :) |
18:42.31 | Adys | btw kirk |
18:42.32 | Adys | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/21/1526225&from=rss |
18:43.36 | Kirkburn | They withdrawing distribution of something that isn't being distributed? |
18:43.45 | Adys | :D |
18:43.51 | Adys | and on another side |
18:43.56 | Adys | i dont mind advertising but |
18:43.59 | Kirkburn | Oh, one of the pre-reqs |
18:44.17 | Adys | people need to stop fucking around and reblogging google helping wine with photoshop support |
18:44.43 | Adys | Im gonna make a blog |
18:44.48 | Adys | thingsyouknow.blogspot.com |
18:45.00 | Adys | and reblog idiots like that |
18:45.42 | Adys | Kurzweil predicts that machines will match man by 2029 -- bring it on |
18:45.43 | Kirkburn | Was I supposed to be impressed by that article? So one of the SP1 pre-reqs appears to have a minor bug. Wow. |
18:46.12 | Adys | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_predicted_when_machines_will_match_man |
18:46.33 | Adys | Kirkburn: ms withdrawing sp1 |
18:46.34 | Adys | hi |
18:46.42 | Kirkburn | Adys, um, no |
18:46.53 | Kirkburn | Withdrawing a pre-req update for SP1 |
18:46.59 | Kirkburn | A completely different thing |
18:47.49 | Adys | kirk |
18:47.57 | Adys | if you delay wow patch 2.4 |
18:48.06 | Kirkburn | SP1 isn't due for public release until mid-March |
18:48.08 | Adys | doesnt that automatically delay patch 2.4.1 :) |
18:48.29 | Adys | its the same here, but the other way |
18:48.49 | Adys | http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/17/announcement-of-hd-dvds-death-expected-in-short-order-duh/ |
18:49.02 | Adys | i could get alot of traffic with my thingsyoualreadyknow.blogspot.com |
18:49.47 | Kirkburn | That was four days ago ... |
18:49.55 | Adys | so? |
18:50.05 | Adys | im catching up on feeds by "posted on" order |
18:50.07 | Kirkburn | It was an entirely justified article? |
18:50.21 | Adys | and i had well over 10 articles on hddvd |
18:50.25 | Kirkburn | Did you miss the "(duh)" in the title? |
18:50.54 | Adys | even endgadget reblog themselves |
18:51.00 | Adys | Paramount following Warner out the HD DVD door? |
18:51.00 | Adys | ...the slow death he predicted for HD DVD a very, very fast one. Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments |
18:51.00 | Adys | Engadget - Jan 8, 2008 5:14 AM |
18:51.07 | Adys | Blu-ray players grab 93 percent of market after Warner went Blu |
18:51.07 | Adys | ...a slow death for HD DVD after all.[Via Blu-ray.com] Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments |
18:51.07 | Adys | Engadget - Jan 22, 2008 10:18 PM |
18:51.17 | Adys | Toshiba gearing up to drop HD DVD? |
18:51.17 | Adys | Engadget - Feb 15, 2008 (6 days ago) |
18:51.24 | Kirkburn | Dude, shut up |
18:51.37 | Adys | Kirk, chill off |
18:51.52 | Adys | its not because you love ms that you have to take everything i say to a personal level |
18:52.05 | Kirkburn | No, it's that you should stop spamming the channel |
18:52.17 | Kirkburn | I have no problem with your MS hatred, but the channel doesn't need to suffer |
18:52.32 | Adys | i wasnt talking about ms |
18:52.53 | Kirkburn | Oh, don't you start going on tangents as well |
18:52.55 | Adys | we're the only ones talking here since about 52 minutes |
18:53.02 | Adys | i dont think people care if i spam |
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18:53.18 | Kirkburn | I do, and it's not an excuse |
18:53.30 | Adys | you spam more than me kirk |
18:53.31 | Adys | honestly |
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18:53.53 | Kirkburn | Fine, tell me off. Sorry, but "he did it first" is not an excuse |
18:53.54 | Adys | you're not in a good position to tell me to shut up there |
18:54.07 | Adys | Im not even saying you did it first |
18:54.15 | Adys | Im saying you did it alot more |
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18:54.38 | Kirkburn | Yes, I sure do love ridiculous conversations |
18:54.47 | Kirkburn | Aanyway |
18:54.59 | Adys | and its an excuse if i want it to be, you're rude, not an example yourself, though still wanting to set yourself up as an example. im not the only one saying that, either |
18:55.13 | Kirkburn | lol |
18:55.26 | Kirkburn | There was me thinking we had channel rules |
18:55.48 | Adys | well? :) |
18:56.07 | Kirkburn | What? You need me to link http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:IRC and point to number 3? |
18:56.21 | Adys | should i point you to number 2? |
18:56.26 | winkiller | slowwiki |
18:56.40 | Kirkburn | winkiller, looks okay here |
18:56.50 | winkiller | no clue, isp maybe |
18:57.02 | Kirkburn | Adys, I told you to shut up after spamming the channel >_> |
18:57.12 | Adys | you tell alot of people to shut up nowadays eh |
18:57.32 | Kirkburn | No, mostly you |
18:57.54 | Adys | Im on this chan nearly 24/7, dont tell me who you tell off |
18:57.57 | Kirkburn | winkiller, if it continues keep me posted and I'll check up |
18:58.02 | Adys | (hi zeal) |
18:58.08 | winkiller | yeah, nagging as you know me :) |
18:58.53 | Kirkburn | Adys, lol that you bring that up :) |
18:59.17 | Adys | i bring it up because it was totally out of the rules |
18:59.26 | Adys | dont laugh at me for bringing your shit up theres more |
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18:59.47 | Kirkburn | Yes, it was, I apologised for it, and we're on friendly speaking terms :) |
19:00.15 | Adys | i didnt say you didnt apologize, nor do i care |
19:00.17 | Kirkburn | I know, people complain about me all the time. It's awful. |
19:00.25 | Adys | but stick to your stuff |
19:00.46 | Fisker- | hey Adys |
19:00.49 | Fisker- | i'm playing WoW |
19:00.53 | Adys | why |
19:00.53 | Fisker- | that game you like |
19:01.28 | Adys | Im fixing stuff in firefox |
19:01.31 | Adys | that browser you hate |
19:01.49 | Fisker- | i don't hate it |
19:01.56 | Kirkburn | Fx ftw |
19:02.13 | Adys | im making scripts for google reader |
19:02.18 | Adys | the one by that company you hate |
19:02.51 | Kirkburn | Never really tried other readers than IE7's, might have to at some point |
19:03.29 | Adys | google reader is one of those google applications i never used until recently |
19:03.35 | Adys | and dont see how i could live without it |
19:03.40 | Kirkburn | Feeds are pretty much the only times I use IE, though that's no small amount |
19:03.47 | Adys | rss desktop readers are just shit |
19:03.56 | Fisker- | google reader isn't that the feed where you can put in a lot of feeds? |
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19:04.23 | Adys | Microsoft announces games for Zune via XNA Studio |
19:04.29 | Adys | captainobvious, come back |
19:04.32 | winkiller | I hate reader |
19:04.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Whirligig: the generation, jury rigging, and joys of the gyrocopter - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/whirligig-the-generation-jury-rigging-and-joys-of-the-gyrocop/ |
19:04.36 | winkiller | I so much pref bloglines |
19:04.56 | *** kick/#wowwiki [winkiller!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (u no hate googlz) |
19:05.28 | Fisker- | i hate google |
19:05.37 | Fisker- | but only from a company perspective :P |
19:05.38 | Adys | u voiced |
19:05.51 | Kirkburn | Adys, k, stop the kickings |
19:06.06 | Adys | totally kirk |
19:06.23 | *** join/#wowwiki winkiller (n=winkille@85.214.68.229) |
19:06.23 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v winkiller] by ChanServ |
19:06.27 | winkiller | :P |
19:06.34 | Kirkburn | New nV driver btw - 174.16 - http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17604 |
19:06.40 | Fisker- | there was also a firefox dev that talked about google in a bad fashion |
19:06.50 | Fisker- | physx support yet? |
19:07.05 | Kirkburn | winkiller, welcome back :P |
19:09.45 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, doubtful |
19:09.56 | Kirkburn | Should be coming to all the 8000 series last I heard though |
19:14.12 | Fisker- | i know |
19:14.13 | Fisker- | also |
19:14.17 | Fisker- | i can check the us wrath site now :O |
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19:21.57 | pcj | mmm admins are getting testy |
19:25.13 | DuTempete | where, pcj? |
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19:25.21 | pcj | hi keolah :) |
19:25.24 | pcj | here, DuTempete |
19:25.27 | Adys | DuTempete: WHY R U OP |
19:25.44 | DuTempete | Adys: CUZ U MAD ME |
19:25.53 | Adys | I MAK U |
19:25.55 | Adys | RLY |
19:26.25 | DuTempete | K SO UNMAK ME |
19:26.39 | Adys | no. |
19:26.48 | DuTempete | well, there we go, then. |
19:27.12 | Adys | oh :( |
19:27.50 | DuTempete | So how are the admins getting testy in IRC, pcj? :P |
19:28.10 | pcj | I meant on WoWWiki and IRC |
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19:30.36 | Fisker- | hai |
19:30.38 | PanSola | only 4? |
19:30.40 | pcj | u have to delete her first |
19:30.45 | PanSola | that's kinda sad )-: |
19:30.49 | PanSola | no love |
19:30.57 | pcj | hmm |
19:31.01 | pcj | guess not |
19:31.27 | Kirkburn | 4 is normal for auto-voice |
19:31.46 | PanSola | I was about to say "what *can* you do with a 4?" |
19:31.48 | PanSola | d-: |
19:32.13 | PanSola | not gonna aop her? |
19:32.15 | pcj | /msg chanserv level #wowwiki list |
19:34.13 | *** part/#wowwiki DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
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19:34.25 | pcj | yay |
19:34.28 | pcj | no +v |
19:35.05 | PanSola | Du didn't identify |
19:35.08 | PanSola | which is why |
19:35.15 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v DuTempete] by ChanServ |
19:35.17 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, identify! :) |
19:35.18 | Kirkburn | Yay! |
19:35.19 | pcj | obviously pansola |
19:35.26 | PanSola | Kb: give her 40! |
19:35.41 | Kirkburn | :) |
19:35.58 | pcj | //mode $me +w |
19:36.01 | pcj | mt |
19:36.01 | Kirkburn | PanSola, :O |
19:36.36 | Adys | who is apt? |
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19:37.25 | pcj | -ChanServ- 35 4 apt 2d 49m 40s |
19:37.33 | Adys | yeah, i got that part |
19:37.39 | Adys | ~seen apt |
19:37.41 | infobot | apt is currently on #debian (7d 7h 38m 33s) ##icf (7d 7h 38m 33s) #elive (7d 7h 38m 33s) #htc-linux (7d 7h 38m 33s) #kde (7d 7h 38m 33s) #wowroster (7d 7h 38m 33s) #openmoko (7d 7h 38m 33s) #gnu-kbsd (7d 7h 38m 33s) #slug (7d 7h 38m 33s) #lugwv (7d 7h 38m 33s) #idlerpg (7d 7h 38m ... |
19:37.51 | pcj | -NickServ- Last Seen Address: i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt |
19:37.59 | Adys | right ok |
19:38.26 | Fisker- | hai |
19:38.30 | Adys | just cleaning up |
19:38.33 | Fisker- | hai |
19:38.39 | pcj | lol no +v for infobot? |
19:38.58 | Adys | he gets it from nick infobot no? |
19:39.18 | pcj | i assume infobot must be a linked nick to apt |
19:39.24 | pcj | since i don't see infobot in the access list |
19:39.31 | Adys | hum |
19:40.07 | pcj | hah went back to apt |
19:40.18 | pcj | gg |
19:40.19 | Adys | ehh |
19:40.20 | Adys | ok |
19:40.27 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o DuTempete] by ChanServ |
19:40.35 | pcj | lol |
19:40.36 | Fisker- | drama tiems go |
19:40.48 | Adys | u no slap plz |
19:40.54 | pcj | oh sht |
19:41.26 | Adys | its not 40 DuTempete, its just 4.0 |
19:41.37 | PanSola | hah |
19:41.57 | Adys | ~seen adys |
19:41.59 | infobot | adys is currently on #debian (6h 4m 45s) #wowi-lounge (6h 4m 45s) #norganna (6h 4m 45s) #idlerpg (6h 4m 45s) #wowace (6h 4m 45s) #wowwiki (6h 4m 45s). Has said a total of 102 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen adys'. |
19:42.09 | Adys | meh |
19:42.23 | pcj | !wwstats |
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19:42.53 | [NewsBot] | New stats available for #wowwiki (at pcj's request)! See the #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
19:52.11 | Adys | http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/itoilet-case-mod-finally-delivers-upon-the-concepts-promise/ |
19:52.11 | Adys | jesus what |
19:53.49 | pcj | i always knew apple computers were full of shit |
19:54.02 | Adys | ohhh ho ho. i see you |
19:56.28 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Wrath of the Lich King - Tuskarr Preview - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2134 |
20:08.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The world (of Warcraft) is flat - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/the-world-of-warcraft-is-flat/ |
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20:12.31 | Kirkburn | Welcome, Orckus |
20:12.44 | Orckus | hello |
20:12.51 | DuTempete | howdy Orckus :) |
20:13.19 | Orckus | hmmm.. can anyone recommend me a IRC client that will alow me to connect to multiple servers? |
20:13.30 | DuTempete | chatzilla does |
20:13.32 | sacarasc | xchat |
20:13.53 | Kirkburn | mirc |
20:14.04 | Kirkburn | Now we gotta think of more esoteric ones :P |
20:14.10 | Orckus | hmm I'm suing mIRC |
20:14.13 | Orckus | using* |
20:14.20 | Orckus | couldnt figure it out |
20:14.21 | sacarasc | irssi, epic, xirc |
20:14.26 | Orckus | I'll play some more |
20:14.31 | Kirkburn | I use XChat myself |
20:14.39 | Adys | mirc sucks, try xchat or irssi |
20:14.55 | DuTempete | I'm not fond of xchat. I may go back to chatzilla |
20:15.05 | Kirkburn | Splitter! |
20:15.05 | DuTempete | it isn't as pretty as xchat, but some things I just can't stand. |
20:15.14 | Orckus | yeah I should jsut figure out how to congire chatzilla |
20:15.18 | Adys | chatzilla is annoying since you need to stay on the browser |
20:15.19 | sacarasc | like what? |
20:15.22 | pcj | orckus, /server -m irc.quakenet.org |
20:15.33 | Kirkburn | pcj, what's the -m ? |
20:15.40 | Adys | -multiple |
20:15.41 | sacarasc | new server |
20:15.50 | DuTempete | You're just upset because then we won't be using the same client anymore, Kirkburn :P |
20:15.53 | Kirkburn | Ah |
20:15.58 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, totally |
20:16.00 | DuTempete | yeah, the browser part is a pain, Adys |
20:16.10 | Adys | actually |
20:16.16 | Adys | you should be able to have chatzilla in prism |
20:16.24 | Adys | with some hacking around.. hmm |
20:16.42 | Orckus | hot damn! TY pcj! |
20:16.53 | Adys | Orckus: mirc still sucks |
20:16.55 | pcj | http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?section=news&feed=ap&src=601&news_id=ap-d8uuaio01&date=20080220 |
20:16.57 | Orckus | lol |
20:17.13 | Orckus | I will look into toehrs |
20:17.13 | pcj | http://www.breitbart.tv/html/50894.html |
20:17.13 | Orckus | but i use it at work |
20:17.22 | Orckus | and it almost looks like a program i use |
20:17.28 | Orckus | STEALTH Chatting |
20:17.35 | DuTempete | Orckus, don't mind Adys, he thinks anything he isn't using or didn't write sucks. |
20:17.45 | pcj | (kind of like zeal) |
20:17.51 | Adys | zeal sucks |
20:17.57 | DuTempete | yeah, basically |
20:18.20 | Adys | but thats not true |
20:18.43 | Adys | Im not using google calendar, yet i think its great, for example |
20:19.25 | Adys | but really, mirc does suck, theres tons of irc clients around |
20:19.31 | Adys | dont go for one thats asking you to pay |
20:19.33 | Kirkburn | pcj, about the mind control thing - the blog I saw about it mentioned that it kinda failed |
20:19.39 | Kirkburn | (when being shown off) |
20:19.52 | pcj | windows 95 failed when being shown off too |
20:20.06 | Kirkburn | It failed when being used too :P |
20:20.21 | Kirkburn | Happy days ... |
20:21.12 | Adys | people saying their app supports windows 95 is like enterprises saying the product they create works on people who dont buy it too |
20:21.18 | Kirkburn | I was just pleased it ran Settlers II tbh |
20:22.17 | Adys | http://www.google.fr/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=PGx&q=best+viewed+with+netscape+4&btnG=Search |
20:22.31 | Adys | lol the results |
20:22.31 | Adys | http://www.henatools.com/ |
20:22.40 | Adys | LEMME SHOW U MY ACCESSIORIES |
20:23.11 | Adys | E-mail: hena@xs.hz.zj.cn |
20:23.12 | Kirkburn | There's a lot of old computers in the world |
20:23.20 | Adys | what the fuck of a kind of email address is that |
20:23.43 | Kirkburn | A chinese one? |
20:23.52 | Kirkburn | Look at the company address |
20:23.53 | Adys | who remembers that kind of postat |
20:24.04 | Adys | xs.hz.zj.cn |
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20:24.07 | Kirkburn | Xiaoshan, Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China |
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20:24.27 | myke54142 | no worse than myke@telerama.pgh.pa.us |
20:25.08 | Adys | it reminds me of people putting their altered bith date followed with a variation of either 1337 or their SSN in their mail address |
20:25.16 | Adys | s/ith/irth/ |
20:25.27 | Kirkburn | Adys, such websites exist because a). not all sites get updated and b) china will have a lot of old PCs |
20:25.54 | Adys | er i know.. so? |
20:26.12 | Adys | I'm not specifically criticizing them |
20:26.43 | Adys | http://www.palmettobusinessgroup.com/leftnav.html |
20:26.49 | Adys | its just so typical of web 0.2 |
20:27.11 | Vesitin | is it common for a rogue to equip two different types of weapons (i.e., mace and dagger, or sword and dagger, or w/e)? |
20:27.17 | Adys | yes |
20:27.26 | Adys | well |
20:27.30 | Adys | depending on your spec actually |
20:27.32 | Vesitin | k...i just started a N.E. rogue last night and i'm learning the class |
20:27.37 | pcj | wand and dagger is pretty uncommon tho |
20:27.43 | Vesitin | well, ya |
20:27.49 | Adys | dont bother with that kind of stuff before you're 50ish |
20:28.09 | Adys | http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/ |
20:28.21 | Adys | i thought the take the survey link was a broken wiki link and wanted to fix it :/ |
20:28.21 | Vesitin | so what's the best tree to build up while levelling? i don't know very much about rogues and i'm working on one now |
20:29.07 | Orckus | will you solo or lots of instances? |
20:29.28 | myke54142 | my priest has a wand and dagger lol |
20:29.46 | Vesitin | prolly mostly soloing with some instances |
20:30.26 | Vesitin | my priest has mace and wand :) |
20:40.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Tuskarr info on official site - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/tuskarr-info-on-official-site/ |
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20:45.34 | sacarasc | O_o |
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20:46.59 | Thraton | HI! |
20:47.29 | sacarasc | indeed |
20:49.37 | Kirkburn | I've posted about the 1.12 test on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#1.12_test_site |
20:55.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, not appreciated. |
20:55.46 | Fisker- | i don't see the issue :< |
20:55.51 | Adys | I don't see it either |
20:57.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Seriously? You don't? |
20:57.22 | Adys | I see a lot of issues related to you but not this one yea |
20:57.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Well that was snide |
20:57.49 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm going to help my hosuemate cook, goodbye |
20:58.02 | Adys | If there is anyone in here who thinks DuTempete was OP'd unfairly because it's favouritism blah blah, say so now |
20:58.09 | Adys | because you're getting a slap from me |
20:58.22 | DuTempete | just leave it alone, people. It's unimportant. |
20:58.50 | Adys | you say that because you get the @! |
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21:01.19 | Fisker- | I think we have more pressing concerns regardingfavoritism if that is the reason for you not having either op or voice |
21:01.50 | sacarasc | i'm no ones favourite and i have neither op nor voice, i declare favouritism! |
21:02.31 | DuTempete | more pressing concerns? |
21:03.29 | DuTempete | Fisker- ? |
21:04.16 | Fisker- | i'd say you wouldn't be the only case of "favoritism" |
21:04.28 | DuTempete | favouritism by whom? |
21:04.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Guild, Episode 7: Home Invasion - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/the-guild-episode-7-home-invasion/ |
21:05.16 | Fisker- | Well i barely have any time for the wiki, so i'd say i shouldn't have a voice anymore |
21:05.22 | Fisker- | also think there's other cases like that |
21:05.43 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+vv dok3Dal dJe781] by Adys |
21:05.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, it's supposed to be bot owners, website owners and prolific editors |
21:05.52 | Adys | favoritism because they're both french! |
21:05.58 | sacarasc | lol |
21:06.06 | Adys | gee guys leave this shit alone seriously |
21:06.10 | Kirkburn|afk | And you wonder why we have a problem |
21:06.15 | Adys | it doesnt even give any advantage to be voice |
21:06.27 | pcj_3 | |Pixel| owns a website? |
21:06.28 | Adys | other than being easily selectable on the user list, big deal |
21:06.30 | pcj_3 | feck |
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21:06.52 | Adys | and kirkburn seriously |
21:07.14 | Adys | stop it right now, this is just .. plain dumb |
21:07.21 | pcj | I own like 3 websites, I should get like 3 + by my name |
21:07.34 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+vvv pcj pcj pcj] by Adys |
21:07.37 | PhotoJim | you have 3. they're stacked. :) |
21:07.46 | pcj | And they all support Netscape |
21:08.03 | DuTempete | oh, then you should take away his +v |
21:08.17 | DuTempete | supporting netscape totally negates any privilage. |
21:08.25 | pcj | wowwiki supports netscape :o |
21:08.31 | DuTempete | shhhhh |
21:09.38 | |Pixel| | Adys: tu es trop gentil |
21:10.16 | |Pixel| | pcj: ya, one little one |
21:10.18 | Fisker- | et tu |Pixel| |
21:10.20 | Fisker- | or whatever |
21:10.33 | Fisker- | isn't even french |
21:10.53 | pcj | je m'en fous |
21:11.01 | |Pixel| | "et toi Fisker-" is fine, more or less, depending on what you wanna say afterward :) |
21:11.31 | Adys | |Pixel|: je porte pas de culotte! |
21:11.49 | Fisker- | http://kotaku.com/359332/fox-news-headline-+-video-gamers-leave-baby-to-die lol |
21:12.17 | |Pixel| | moui moui moui |
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22:05.58 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Sunwell Raid disabled, Brutallus v4 down - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-11133-1.html |
22:06.37 | Fisker- | Man |
22:06.50 | Fisker- | Tier 5 Paladin 4-set bonus would be sick if you could control it |
22:08.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Scattered Shots: Pets at level 10 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/s/ |
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22:42.11 | pcj | kirkburn my user ID is different on the test server |
22:43.32 | Sky2042 | and i can't connect |
22:43.34 | Sky2042 | >.> |
22:44.03 | pcj | meh the test wiki is sloower than the normal wiki |
22:44.11 | Sky2042 | aye. |
22:48.34 | pcj | *amateur |
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23:07.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Ouch. |
23:07.16 | Ose | wtf? |
23:07.40 | pcj | netsplit ftw |
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23:08.11 | Ose | anyway, can we resize all the <proffesion>.gif images to 48x48px please? |
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23:08.27 | Ose | [[Image:Mining.gif]] |
23:08.39 | Ose | and all the others |
23:09.19 | Ose | they are making the User:Proffesion template too big |
23:09.49 | [NewsBot] | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mining.gif |
23:09.59 | Ose | [[User:Warthok]] |
23:09.59 | [NewsBot] | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Warthok |
23:10.03 | Ose | as an example |
23:10.17 | AFKTempete | you can change the image size w/in the link |
23:10.57 | Ose | uhm, yeah... |
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23:11.05 | AFKTempete | [[Image:Mining.gif 48px]] |
23:11.47 | pcj | [[Image:Mining.gif|48px]]* |
23:12.15 | AFKTempete | It's far better that we have it uploaded as a large image. It has more use, and we don't have to have multiple copies uploaded. |
23:12.21 | AFKTempete | yeah, yeah, that too |
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23:13.52 | Ose | it's in <imagelink> though |
23:14.01 | AFKTempete | don't use imagelink |
23:14.15 | Ose | I didn't do it... |
23:14.34 | Ose | {{User Profession}} |
23:14.49 | Ose | {{User Profession/Icon}} |
23:14.53 | AFKTempete | [[Template:User Profession}} |
23:15.02 | Ose | see for yourselves |
23:15.02 | AFKTempete | [[Template:User Profession]] |
23:15.13 | AFKTempete | damnit, newsbot |
23:15.15 | Ose | slowsbot |
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23:16.55 | Sky2042 | for the time being, don't use imagelink. if/when we get the extension installed, then use it. |
23:16.56 | Ose | what's going on? |
23:17.02 | Sky2042 | freenode is hiccuping |
23:17.04 | Sky2042 | =] |
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23:17.28 | Ose | once again, not me |
23:17.37 | Sky2042 | then fix it! |
23:18.20 | [NewsBot] | AFKTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mining.gif_48px |
23:18.20 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mining.gif |
23:18.21 | [NewsBot] | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Profession |
23:18.21 | [NewsBot] | Ose meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Profession/Icon |
23:18.21 | [NewsBot] | AFKTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Profession |
23:18.34 | pcj | wow. |
23:18.35 | foxlit | erm |
23:18.38 | AFKTempete | seems like those templates were seriously jerry-rigged. |
23:19.02 | AFKTempete | I can't fix them righ tnow, though |
23:19.02 | Ose | slowsbot strikes again |
23:19.15 | AFKTempete | it would take me some time, as I'm not very familiar with #if |
23:19.34 | pcj | omg afktempete nub |
23:20.02 | AFKTempete | die, pcj. |
23:20.03 | AFKTempete | die, foxlit. |
23:20.03 | pcj | eventually, yes |
23:20.04 | foxlit | die, Tempete! |
23:20.04 | Sky2042 | AFKTempete: if you have any coding ability at all, it's the same as any ifthen statement o_o |
23:20.15 | AFKTempete | yeah, I know, but looking at all those brackets makes my brain hurt. |
23:20.17 | foxlit | Anyway, it's not like your problem is with the if |
23:20.19 | pcj | use pseudocode first then |
23:20.20 | Sky2042 | llol |
23:20.28 | Ose | go see yourself |
23:20.30 | AFKTempete | blah blah |
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23:20.33 | AFKTempete | I don't have time :P |
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23:21.00 | Ose | |lcontent={{{{#if:{{{1|}}}|User Profession/Icon|Blank}}|{{{1}}}}} |
23:21.35 | Ose | and that's just one line |
23:21.35 | AFKTempete | yeah... |
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23:22.09 | pcj | Cool |
23:22.24 | AFKTempete | anywho, I'm off. |
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23:23.38 | foxlit | What browser are you using, Ose? |
23:24.57 | foxlit | http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6484/safariscreensnapz001ho2.png |
23:25.01 | foxlit | Renders just fine! |
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23:27.49 | Ose | firefox |
23:28.34 | Ose | that isn't the same page I was looking at... |
23:28.50 | dcramer[] | Kirkburn|afk: you guys should add wowdb to the links :p |
23:28.56 | Ose | it had double professions in the profession template |
23:29.05 | foxlit | link |
23:29.16 | Sky2042 | dcramer[]: nuh uh. |
23:29.31 | pcj | looool |
23:29.49 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Warthok |
23:30.18 | pcj | Not seeing a problem |
23:30.42 | dcramer[] | Sky2042: why not |
23:30.50 | Sky2042 | dcramer[]: why should we? |
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23:30.57 | Sky2042 | ;) |
23:31.11 | foxlit | It's pwetty and blue! |
23:31.18 | dcramer[] | Sky2042: why shouldnt? |
23:31.19 | foxlit | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1705/safariscreensnapz002ik9.png |
23:31.26 | Sky2042 | you have to make your case first, not the other way around. |
23:31.37 | dcramer[] | my case is because all the other major db sites are there :) |
23:31.51 | Sky2042 | true. but that wasn't why they're there. |
23:31.56 | Sky2042 | alone* |
23:32.18 | dcramer[] | huh |
23:32.23 | Sky2042 | if the community had had its way, only wowhead would be displayed. |
23:32.40 | Adys | wow this is awesome |
23:32.40 | dcramer[] | i dont think thats true |
23:32.44 | Ose | someone fixed it :D |
23:32.51 | Sky2042 | dcramer[]: it's very true. |
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23:33.19 | dcramer[] | Sky2042: you're expressing everyones opinions as yours :) |
23:33.28 | Sky2042 | but Kirkburn|afk (aka, our benevolent dictator) said, "we're going to keep all 3 of them" |
23:33.30 | Sky2042 | and no. |
23:33.32 | pcj | uhh sky i think armory would be there |
23:33.33 | Sky2042 | [[WW:EL]] |
23:33.57 | Ose | OfflineBot you mean? |
23:34.04 | Adys | i clicked a random google ad that took me to a website that is supposed to display a 60 second vid on how much god loves me |
23:34.08 | Ose | or is he back? |
23:34.12 | Adys | PLEASE UPGRADE FLASH |
23:34.12 | Adys | Does this prayer express the desire of your heart? If it does, I invite you to pray this prayer right now and Christ will come into your life, as He promised. |
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23:35.29 | Ose | g'nite |
23:35.42 | foxlit | dcramer[]: actually, there was a vote. |
23:35.50 | foxlit | Pretty much everything except wowhead failed. |
23:36.02 | foxlit | Of course, this was quite a while ago |
23:36.19 | AFKTempete | besides, I doubt we want to take part in that crazy BS that is wowdb |
23:36.22 | foxlit | If you wanted to add yourself |
23:36.39 | foxlit | AFKTempete: NEUTRALITY |
23:37.01 | Sky2042 | well, that's weird. the archives disappeared |
23:37.09 | Sky2042 | theres one |
23:37.10 | foxlit | I'd branch Elinks-item into Elinks-item/Dev, and see what you can do about the layout of that template |
23:37.13 | AFKTempete | linking to it shows support |
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23:37.22 | AFKTempete | not linking to it shows avoidance |
23:37.29 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Allakhazam_removal_vote , http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Thottbot_removal_vote |
23:37.37 | foxlit | I'm sure you had a point somewhere along the lines |
23:37.42 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Wowhead_removal_vote |
23:37.44 | AFKTempete | preventing it from being linked at all shows disproval |
23:37.47 | Sky2042 | um, what was the last. |
23:37.56 | AFKTempete | I'm sure we can "allow" it to be added manually to pages |
23:38.05 | AFKTempete | but there's no way in hell I want to see it added to elinks |
23:38.10 | foxlit | AFKTempete: pointless much? |
23:38.15 | Adys | take it to talk pages |
23:38.18 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:EL |
23:38.19 | foxlit | "no way in hell" is blatant bias |
23:38.25 | AFKTempete | personal bias |
23:38.34 | foxlit | Indeed. Off with your head! |
23:38.34 | dcramer[] | AFKTempete: wowdb provides info other sites dont |
23:38.35 | AFKTempete | I'm allowed personal bias, tyvm |
23:38.41 | AFKTempete | fuck wowdb |
23:38.51 | Sky2042 | there was another one that was removed from elinks |
23:38.53 | AFKTempete | I don't care what other info they provide |
23:38.55 | pcj | Fuck it right in the ear! |
23:39.05 | foxlit | In short, come up with a version of elinks-item that has wowdb in it and works, and we'll consider it |
23:39.09 | AFKTempete | It could be the meaning of life, and I still wouldn't support it |
23:39.11 | Adys | Take it to talk pages seriously guys. |
23:39.15 | dcramer[] | i dont edit the wiki |
23:39.29 | Sky2042 | dcramer[]: then it's not going to get added ;) |
23:39.47 | foxlit | Then you should be able to tell by the general mood of responses that people aren't very interested in doing it on your behalf |
23:40.00 | dcramer[] | irc responses dont really mean much :) |
23:40.11 | Adys | thats why Im saying a very last time |
23:40.12 | AFKTempete | by all means, post it on the VP, dcramer[] |
23:40.14 | Adys | take it to talk pages |
23:40.20 | Adys | not here |
23:40.40 | AFKTempete | you aren't going to get much a different response |
23:40.44 | Adys | that goes to everyone |
23:40.44 | foxlit | dcramer[]: they're pretty much the only kind you'll get if you don't want to edit the wiki :) |
23:40.47 | dcramer[] | i didnt actually come here to discuss it :) |
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23:40.55 | foxlit | What did you come here for? :) |
23:40.55 | dcramer[] | you guys just started responding |
23:40.57 | AFKTempete | then why bring it up? |
23:41.05 | Sky2042 | ^ |
23:41.26 | dcramer[] | dcramer[]: Kirkburn|afk: you guys should add wowdb to the links |
23:41.54 | foxlit | Good luck with that, then. |
23:42.08 | AFKTempete | Kirk won't add it unless there's user support |
23:42.31 | dcramer[] | just because the 3 bias people in here who don't support it doesn't mean there wouldn't be :) |
23:42.33 | AFKTempete | if that's what you're getting at |
23:42.45 | Kaso | dcramer[] var = new dcramer[20]; |
23:43.00 | AFKTempete | you say bias like it's a bad thing. Everyone has a bias. Yours is for wowdb. |
23:43.06 | foxlit | Kaso: interesting :) |
23:43.06 | Corgan | Kaso <3 |
23:43.08 | dcramer[] | not really |
23:43.14 | dcramer[] | but if you go to wowhead and ask them if they want to be on wowwiki |
23:43.15 | dcramer[] | they'll say yes |
23:43.20 | Kaso | been programming too much java >.< |
23:43.21 | dcramer[] | if you go to wowdb, and do the same thing, same response |
23:43.31 | AFKTempete | it's not about what they want :P |
23:43.37 | dcramer[] | so why is it about what you want? |
23:43.37 | AFKTempete | It's about what the users want |
23:43.39 | dcramer[] | id bet you're a wowhead user |
23:43.41 | Sky2042 | not to mention, the point of the templates is to verify information, which the 3 currently do already. |
23:43.56 | AFKTempete | why do you think I dislike wowdb? |
23:43.57 | dcramer[] | Sky2042: but when one provides info the others don't, do you not agree, to be a more complete source, it should be added? |
23:44.04 | dcramer[] | AFKTempete: i dont even have to quote you :) |
23:44.19 | Sky2042 | dcramer[]: wowdb doesn't, though. it changes where the info is located. |
23:44.38 | dcramer[] | wowdb actually had updates faster than the other sites when patch day came around |
23:44.45 | AFKTempete | dcramer[], did any of us say "it isn't going to happen because we said so" ? |
23:44.47 | Sky2042_afk | dcramer[]: and? |
23:44.47 | Corgan | inaccurate info too. |
23:44.53 | dcramer[] | not inaccurate |
23:45.00 | dcramer[] | it cant be inaccurate, its datamined :) |
23:45.01 | Corgan | yes inaccurate. |
23:45.08 | Adys | this stops here, everyone just stop going on about it. If you want to talk about it, http://wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:External_links - whatever it is |
23:45.11 | Sky2042_afk | what are private servers again? |
23:45.13 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+m] by Adys |
23:45.27 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-m] by AFKTempete |
23:45.28 | Sky2042_afk | and now I go. |
23:45.29 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-m] by Adys |
23:45.33 | AFKTempete | let it be, Adys |
23:45.55 | Adys | This is not the place |
23:45.56 | AFKTempete | we can talk about it here all we like. That doesn't mean anyone's going to go off and do something about it w/o discussing it on the wiki |
23:46.08 | AFKTempete | This is the very plac eto go to get a feel for how people are going to respond to ideas |
23:46.11 | AFKTempete | That's what it's for. |
23:46.17 | Corgan | It's an irc channel. That's what you do in an irc channel. You know, talk. |
23:46.38 | AFKTempete | Zeal's little project was an abuse of IRC discussion, yes, but that's been acknowledged. |
23:47.59 | AFKTempete | dcramer[], If you're serious about the idea, please do go to the wiki and propose it. |
23:48.08 | AFKTempete | But, we're telling you it's not likely to go over well. |
23:48.29 | AFKTempete | We aren't telling you you can't do it, or ask about it. |
23:48.34 | dcramer[] | im not an idiot |
23:48.37 | AFKTempete | But there *needs* to be a proposal made first |
23:48.38 | dcramer[] | if i wanted to propose it, i would |
23:48.42 | dcramer[] | i honestly dont care if it gets added |
23:49.03 | dcramer[] | i didnt come in here and say "what do you guys think about.." |
23:49.09 | dcramer[] | yes, i could take it to pm, but im lazy :p |
23:49.29 | Adys | well then this is set |
23:49.57 | AFKTempete | Kirkburn will/would say the same thing: propose it if it's that important to you. |
23:50.04 | AFKTempete | He's not going ot propose it fo ryou. |
23:50.12 | AFKTempete | He's not going to do it because you mentioned it. |
23:50.16 | dcramer[] | so you're his opinion now too? :) |
23:50.33 | AFKTempete | I know him well enough to make an educated guess. |
23:50.39 | dcramer[] | A lot of people in here tend to think they're everyones opinions :) |
23:50.50 | dcramer[] | either way |
23:50.51 | TecnoBrat | AFKTempete, understatement of the century |
23:50.58 | dcramer[] | you dont need to go on and on |
23:50.59 | AFKTempete | lol tecnobrat :P |
23:52.36 | AFKTempete | Malgayne, is there anything you would like to add regarding wowdb, that might help dcramer[]? |
23:52.45 | Malgayne | Hm? |
23:52.55 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Water un-nerfed outside Arenas - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/water-un-nerfed-outside-arenas/ |
23:53.02 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Sunwell raid temporarily disabled - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/21/sunwell-raid-temporarily-disabled/ |
23:53.21 | AFKTempete | If you don't want to get into it, just say so :P |
23:53.43 | AFKTempete | I don't think most of us really have any clear understanding of the situation with wowdb, though. |
23:53.59 | Kirkburn|afk | dcramer[], the addition was already brought up by someone else - essentially, for addition to the default links it'll need a vote, same as any of the other links. |
23:54.41 | Malgayne | WoWWiki is a community website. If the community wants Wowdb up there, put it up there. |
23:54.58 | Kirkburn|afk | (by someone else, I mean someone else from Curse) |
23:55.09 | dcramer[] | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fansites |
23:55.13 | dcramer[] | can smeone renamed "Curse Gaming" to "Curse" |
23:55.34 | Adys | done |
23:55.45 | dcramer[] | thanks |
23:56.01 | Adys | if it doesnt time out.. |
23:56.29 | Kirkburn|afk | My suggestion was either wait for a little while for the Alexa results and ... other stuff to settle down |
23:56.40 | Kirkburn|afk | s/either// |
23:57.18 | dcramer[] | lol |
23:57.22 | dcramer[] | <PROTECTED> |
23:57.24 | dcramer[] | nice descriptions :) |
23:57.26 | Kirkburn|afk | At the moment any vote isn't really going to be fair and will probably just turn into a site war, but feel free to "test the waters" as it were |
23:57.28 | dcramer[] | wowdb will stay high |
23:57.33 | dcramer[] | wowdb will outrank wowhead in Google shortly |
23:57.40 | kd3 | uh-huh |
23:57.45 | dcramer[] | (in he spots it doesnt currently) |
23:57.49 | dcramer[] | *the |
23:57.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, well, that's all well and good, but it's not our decision :) |
23:57.52 | dcramer[] | damn i fail at english |
23:57.55 | foxlit | would be nice to revamp elinks, anyway |
23:58.12 | AFKTempete | I think we should avoid taking a position on the issue: show neither support or dispproval. Allow links to be added manually, just like we do for any other site, but not add it to elinks. |
23:58.13 | dcramer[] | ya i ignore the site war stuff though :) |
23:58.16 | foxlit | Altogether too much wasteful text; icons would serve the purpose better, and we could add tons :P |
23:58.25 | Adys | a nice wowwiki revamp of db elinks yea |
23:58.30 | dcramer[] | AFKTempete: ya but then its bias against wowdb |
23:58.39 | Adys | with a very nice autogenerated wiki transcludable wow data content |
23:58.48 | Adys | and not a single db link for all wars to be over |
23:58.49 | foxlit | AFKTempete: I can easily add it manually to every page |
23:58.51 | AFKTempete | no, that would be the most neutral position we could take. |
23:58.59 | foxlit | That smells of a workaround, though :P |
23:59.01 | dcramer[] | thats not neutral :) |
23:59.03 | AFKTempete | go right ahead, foxlit, and have fun :P |
23:59.05 | Adys | Like it was started :P |
23:59.10 | dcramer[] | anyways |
23:59.12 | dcramer[] | doesnt really bother me |
23:59.13 | pcj | afktempete i bet he meant his bot |
23:59.14 | foxlit | Well, by manually, I mean bundle it with bot requests |
23:59.17 | dcramer[] | but wowdb is big and will only get bigger |
23:59.22 | dcramer[] | wasnt aware it had been suggested though |
23:59.29 | AFKTempete | that's irelevant, pcj, but I figured that. :P |
23:59.31 | kd3 | hey, another curse fanboy. fun stuff |
23:59.38 | dcramer[] | kd3: im the lead developer |
23:59.46 | dcramer[] | not quite a fanboy :) |
23:59.56 | AFKTempete | Howev,er foxlit, you are an admin, and need to consider that. |