00:00.15 | pcj | bbiab |
00:01.05 | Kirkburn | yay fixes |
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00:18.07 | WoWTempete | yay Kirkburn ! |
00:18.20 | Kirkburn | You're cute :) |
00:19.47 | WoWTempete | nuh uh, you're cute |
00:21.36 | Dotted | you are both un-cute |
00:22.10 | WoWTempete | you're cute, too, Dotted, but not as cute as Kirkburn |
00:22.18 | Fatespinner | o.0 |
00:22.21 | Dotted | lies |
00:22.27 | Dotted | me > Capt. Kirk |
00:22.47 | Dotted | also when does daily quests reset? |
00:23.34 | WoWTempete | midnight PST I believe |
00:23.51 | Dotted | NubTempete |
00:24.24 | Dotted | EU region |
00:24.25 | Dotted | ! |
00:25.15 | WoWTempete | fuck if I know |
00:25.22 | WoWTempete | we don't play on EU :P |
00:26.42 | pcj | fuck EU |
00:26.46 | pcj | fuck it right in the ear |
00:27.14 | pcj | but it's probably midnight CET |
00:28.16 | WoWTempete | CET? |
00:28.46 | WoWTempete | what region is that? |
00:29.51 | Dotted | Copenhagen / Paris / Berlin |
00:29.55 | Dotted | GMT+1 |
00:30.01 | WoWTempete | gotcha |
00:30.32 | Dotted | but if its midnight, im gonna get my netherdrake now |
00:31.03 | Dotted | isnt midnight |
00:31.06 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
00:31.07 | Dotted | ! |
00:31.21 | Kirkburn | lol @ you |
00:31.40 | Dotted | when does dailies reset? |
00:32.06 | Lukian | 3am |
00:32.16 | Dotted | doh |
00:32.31 | Dotted | CET? |
00:33.27 | Lukian | server time |
00:33.49 | Dotted | ok thx |
00:33.59 | Dotted | gonna farm some eggs then |
00:38.37 | Dotted | first egg, number 10 "today" |
00:47.42 | Dotted | numer 2 |
00:55.59 | Dotted | 3 |
00:59.42 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Download BlizzCast - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2075 |
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01:02.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Tickets, Please: A look at Darkmoon Faire's ticket reward system - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/06/tickets-please-a-look-at-darkmoon-faires-ticket-reward-system/ |
01:15.58 | foxlit | psst |
01:16.05 | foxlit | {{User Editcount}}, adopt one today! |
01:16.05 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Editcount |
01:16.30 | foxlit | (and foxbot keeps it up to date, hah!) |
01:18.12 | kd3 | whee, I'm over 9000 |
01:19.31 | foxlit | 4367 > 9000 :) |
01:19.42 | kd3 | huh |
01:19.50 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree |
01:20.23 | kd3 | it was over 9000 a second ago... guess I can thank slow response time from the bot |
01:20.36 | foxlit | :) |
01:20.50 | foxlit | I chose a template default value for no particular reason |
01:21.14 | kd3 | what's that hash paramter to the template? |
01:21.59 | foxlit | Counting edits is a long and painful process, so I'd rather avoid doing that too often |
01:22.36 | foxlit | What it does instead is incremented edits - store a count up to a specific contribution, only scroll as far back as that count when asked to refresh |
01:23.06 | kd3 | ah, neat |
01:23.19 | foxlit | incremented edits = incremented counts |
01:24.23 | foxlit | The hash is there to verify integrity of the saved data |
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01:30.03 | foxlit | Should probably think of a better text |
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01:50.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Encrypted Text: Job perks - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/06/encrypted-text-job-perks/ |
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01:53.06 | zachalink | hi, wondering if this is the best place to ask this: why doesn't my WoW dvd have setup.exe in it? |
01:55.23 | kd3 | open up the AutoRun.ini file and run the program it points to |
01:56.32 | ecstasia | uh |
01:56.34 | zachalink | ya, there's just installer tomes.mpq |
01:56.42 | zachalink | 6 of them |
01:56.52 | zachalink | also a folder for os x |
01:56.55 | ecstasia | it doesn't have an autorun file? |
01:57.02 | zachalink | no |
01:57.09 | zachalink | yet... it installed on windows... = |
01:57.11 | zachalink | =| |
01:57.28 | kd3 | are you trying to install on a mac or in windows? |
01:58.02 | zachalink | linux. unsupported I know, I'm not asking for support in that category, I got it covered. just the necessary files aren't showing up in the dvd |
01:58.25 | kd3 | make sure you're mounting the DVD as an iso9660 and not the mac version |
01:58.47 | kd3 | if you've got it installed on windows, just move the World of Warcraft folder to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft |
01:58.53 | kd3 | <-- linux user |
01:59.06 | zachalink | I lost my windows disc to start with. =( |
01:59.15 | kd3 | I'm assuming you're on ubuntu, that's why you're seeing the OSX-visible portion of the iso |
01:59.26 | zachalink | yes. |
01:59.35 | zachalink | gusty, to be exact |
01:59.45 | zachalink | or gutsy, w/e it is |
01:59.52 | kd3 | the automounter picks the wrong partition by default. google "ubuntu cd mount" for instructions on mounting the windows partition of the CD |
02:00.06 | zachalink | and how's that going for ya? |
02:00.22 | kd3 | works just fine. I've been using rh/fedora since the rh 9 days |
02:00.29 | zachalink | cool |
02:00.34 | zachalink | I"ll do that google search. thanks |
02:00.57 | kd3 | no prob. need to put that on the wiki if it isn't already there. that's a rather annoying edge case |
02:01.14 | zachalink | yep |
02:01.37 | zachalink | only disadvantage to installing it again: the hour long patches. =( |
02:01.50 | Kirkburn | :P |
02:07.40 | kd3 | oh, zach; direct link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft |
02:13.17 | zachalink | I don't understand... I did this command: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/ and nothing happened. =| |
02:14.04 | kd3 | you need to umount the disc before you can remount it. `sudo umount /dev/cdrom` should umount it for you |
02:14.18 | zachalink | ty |
02:14.42 | zachalink | Device is busy... |
02:14.48 | zachalink | *ugh* |
02:15.44 | kd3 | close any open nautilus windows/terminals that are pointed at the DVD |
02:16.18 | zachalink | she worked! =D |
02:16.55 | zachalink | thank you so much. ^_^ |
02:18.26 | kd3 | no prob. glad to help get another linux player back to his wow addiction |
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02:21.07 | zachalink | xD |
02:21.21 | zachalink | ya, didn't play in 2 days, lol |
02:22.00 | zachalink | so what server do you play on? |
02:22.03 | zachalink | *realm |
02:22.07 | kd3 | Medivh US |
02:22.18 | zachalink | oh. I play on terenas. ^_^ |
02:25.29 | zachalink | well later, thanks again for the help. =) |
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03:29.15 | zachalink | kd3, what was that unmount command again? I'm installing expansion now, lol |
03:29.30 | kd3 | it's on the wiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
03:29.38 | kd3 | look in the "Can't see the Installer?" section |
03:30.02 | zachalink | ooo, when was that added? =) |
03:30.18 | kd3 | shortly after I made that comment about adding it to the wiki earlier today |
03:30.34 | zachalink | lol |
03:30.47 | zachalink | *bookmarks* |
03:32.32 | zachalink | wait, I don't see that "Can't see the installer?" section |
03:32.54 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine#No_Installer.exe.3F |
03:34.18 | zachalink | that didn't take me there, lol |
03:34.28 | kd3 | shift-reload the page. |
03:34.35 | kd3 | the command is sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/ |
03:35.12 | zachalink | well I know that, but how do I do the unmount command? |
03:35.21 | kd3 | sudo umount /dev/cdrom |
03:35.26 | zachalink | k, thx |
03:36.20 | zachalink | bai. =D |
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03:40.58 | zachalink | One last issue: I could never seem to get my microphone to work for WoW, and the output came out of my speakers. =| |
03:41.11 | zachalink | Like a loud echo that made me go near-deaf. |
03:41.39 | kd3 | 'fraid I can't help you there. I don't have a mic. there should be some vent info on the wiki, otherwise check out the http://appdb.winehq.org when it comes back up from maintenance |
03:42.19 | zachalink | alright, guess I'll try vent. it works on wine right? |
03:42.40 | kd3 | vent installs and works just fine. that's all I use |
03:44.11 | zachalink | cool, thanks, bai again. =D |
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04:19.42 | zachalink | I did that sound fix... yet I still get stuttering sound... what seems to be the dealio? |
04:21.34 | zachalink | eh? =( |
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04:39.07 | Lukian | how do i cancel a buff in a macro? |
04:41.32 | ecstasia | you don't? |
04:46.30 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
04:52.22 | pcj | if not, /script CancelPlayerBuff("Blessing of Protection"); |
04:53.33 | pcj | cancelaura seems to work tho |
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05:15.02 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2406108888&postId=27456995786&sid=1#0 <-lol |
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06:30.27 | Angel | Hmm.... hello? |
06:30.36 | Sky2042 | hello? |
06:30.38 | Sky2042 | hello! |
06:30.42 | Angel | Ah! Hey. |
06:31.20 | Angel | I found a rather strange error on the wiki, and wanted to know where to post it ^^ |
06:31.53 | Sky2042 | Well, here. Or at [[WW:VP]] |
06:31.58 | Sky2042 | [[WW:VP]] |
06:31.58 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:VP |
06:32.11 | Angel | Ah, I thought so. Shall post there when I get in from work. |
06:32.12 | Sky2042 | ^ |
06:32.38 | Angel | I'm new to the game and was looking at the best way to level blacksmithing |
06:32.48 | Angel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Economical_blacksmithing_training |
06:32.54 | Angel | And this page wasn't quite what I wanted :P |
06:33.07 | Sky2042 | How so? |
06:33.13 | pcj | lol |
06:33.18 | Angel | Load it up and one quick look will tell you. |
06:33.29 | Sky2042 | I did. |
06:33.40 | Angel | Shows alchemy info for me. |
06:33.40 | Sky2042 | It looks normal to me. |
06:33.50 | Sky2042 | well... ok, touche. |
06:34.06 | Angel | don't worry, I'm not trying to catch anyone out ^^; |
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06:35.07 | Sky2042 | ah, Angel. The original author was going to work on it, but never did |
06:35.16 | Angel | Ahh... okay. |
06:35.16 | Sky2042 | he pulled the information directly from Alchemy's equivalent. |
06:35.19 | Angel | Natch. |
06:35.42 | Angel | I understand. |
06:36.00 | Angel | Well not too hard to do myself, I'll mess with some spreadsheets when I get home. |
06:36.37 | Angel | Site has been excellent so far :D Very helpful for learning the ropes. |
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06:37.11 | Sky2042 | That's good to hear. :) |
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07:10.16 | Niat | g'morning mates! :) |
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08:37.31 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
08:37.33 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 1 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1sec. |
08:37.37 | Sky2042 | oh boy! |
08:53.24 | Sky2042 | pcj: if there's a line break between <div and class>, will that break anything? |
08:54.17 | Sky2042 | eh |
08:54.18 | Sky2042 | nvm |
08:56.35 | Sky2042 | wtf? |
08:57.34 | Sky2042 | well, this should be interesting. |
08:58.06 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
08:58.08 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 16860 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 4hrs 41mins. |
09:03.52 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
09:03.54 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 16604 doing ~0.9 job/s, done in approx. 5hrs 7mins 28secs. |
09:04.09 | Sky2042 | so, right when east coast gets up. gotcha. |
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10:52.59 | Gourra | what in the world has happened to {{npcbox}} and {{mobbbox}}? |
10:53.08 | Gourra | "faction = combat" is broken |
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12:52.54 | Fisker- | Kirkburn |
12:53.12 | Fisker- | i see you vandalized under one of your devious aliases |
13:02.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Who's got the most HKs? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/07/breakfast-topic-whos-got-the-most-hks/ |
13:04.58 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: ELSPA Lauds Tory Report on Childhood; Scant Mention of Video Games - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/07/elspa-lauds-tory-report-on-childhood-scant-mention-of-video-games/ |
13:05.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Child Psychologist Scoffs at Video Game Violence Arguments - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/07/child-psychologist-scoffs-at-video-game-violence-arguments/ |
13:16.57 | Gourra | who messed up {{npcbox}}? |
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14:14.19 | pcj | eww some idiot screwed up npcbox |
14:24.57 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Fears Emerge that British Prime Minister Will Use Byron Report Against Game Biz - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/07/fears-emerge-that-british-prime-minister-will-use-byron-report-against-game-biz/ |
14:25.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Tennessee Senate Resolution Calls for Study of Violent Games, TV - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/07/tennessee-senate-resolution-calls-for-study-of-violent-games-tv/ |
14:29.47 | Dotted | |Pixel| |
14:30.03 | Dotted | why does armory have to crash my browsers? |
14:30.56 | Fisker- | because the armory sucks |
14:31.02 | Dotted | i know |
14:31.42 | Dotted | this time Fx didnt crash only explorer |
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14:32.47 | |Pixel| | because there's a bug in firefox and explorer |
14:32.54 | |Pixel| | into the xml/xsl transformers |
14:33.00 | |Pixel| | and our devs managed to hit this bug |
14:33.12 | |Pixel| | how many times do I need to repeat this one ? |
14:33.32 | Dotted | i've never heard you say it :( |
14:34.03 | |Pixel| | put it somewhere on the wili, I don't know :P |
14:34.22 | Fisker- | hmm |
14:34.30 | Fisker- | thought it was a bug from your side |
14:36.03 | |Pixel| | it's more or less a problem from our side |
14:36.04 | foxlit | whatwhowherebug? |
14:36.08 | |Pixel| | but which triggers a big in FF |
14:36.11 | |Pixel| | bug |
14:36.14 | |Pixel| | *sigh* |
14:36.15 | |Pixel| | okay |
14:36.23 | |Pixel| | do you have notions of XML/XSLT ? :) |
14:36.49 | foxlit | me or Fisker-? |
14:37.01 | Fisker- | not me |
14:37.04 | |Pixel| | you, since you ask for the bug |
14:37.06 | Fisker- | well i know xml a bit |
14:37.09 | Fisker- | but not xslt |
14:37.21 | |Pixel| | okay, lemme try to summerize it a bit |
14:37.23 | Fisker- | only thing i know about that it is info used for rendering |
14:37.28 | foxlit | XML stores data, XSLT is supposed to describe a transformation of data contained within XML to something more presentable |
14:37.31 | |Pixel| | XSLT is transformation of an XML into "something else" |
14:37.53 | |Pixel| | which uses an "XSL" file (which is a xml file actually, describing the transformation to operate) |
14:38.09 | |Pixel| | the common XML/XSLT that we do is transforming an XML file into an HTML one |
14:38.24 | |Pixel| | we could also transform an XML into an SVG for example |
14:38.38 | |Pixel| | with the XML containing plotting data |
14:38.54 | |Pixel| | and the XSL creating the nice svg file with arrows and graphs, etc |
14:39.08 | |Pixel| | now, armory "redifines" more or less the concept of XSLT |
14:39.19 | |Pixel| | because most of the people doing XML/XSLT are only using a few transformations |
14:39.28 | |Pixel| | here, the armory can starts with this: |
14:40.33 | |Pixel| | (dang, ff crashed trying to fetch one xml file -.-) |
14:41.04 | |Pixel| | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="/layout/guild-info.xsl"?><page globalSearch="1" lang="en_gb" requestUrl="/guild-info.xml"> |
14:41.06 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
14:41.09 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
14:41.12 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
14:41.18 | |Pixel| | [few members in it...] |
14:41.24 | |Pixel| | into this: |
14:41.32 | |Pixel| | http://eu.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Yaminosu |
14:41.59 | |Pixel| | so the XSLT in operation here is really heavy and complex, and requires a huge lot of sub-XML and sub-XSL files |
14:42.08 | |Pixel| | for example, the guild page features the guild tabard |
14:42.23 | |Pixel| | which is a sub-XML file, transformed independantely: |
14:42.35 | |Pixel| | http://eu.wowarmory.com/guildheader.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Yaminosu |
14:42.58 | |Pixel| | which means that when you load a "simple" xml file from armory, the XSLT will ask for around 15 sub-XML and XSL files |
14:43.07 | |Pixel| | now that's where the bug lies: |
14:43.21 | |Pixel| | sometime, armory is overloaded, and will timeout when beeing queried |
14:43.32 | |Pixel| | you can see that pretty easily on lots of occasions |
14:44.02 | |Pixel| | now, the XSLT processor of firefox is glumpsy, and will freezes when trying to load a sub-XML file which just timeouts |
14:44.05 | |Pixel| | that's it. |
14:44.23 | Dotted | and IE? |
14:44.28 | Dotted | same? |
14:44.34 | |Pixel| | the bug is slightly different |
14:44.44 | |Pixel| | but also involves XSLT |
14:45.03 | |Pixel| | that's why I always tell to people the following: |
14:45.11 | |Pixel| | if you don't wanna crash your firefox while browsing armory |
14:45.20 | |Pixel| | just install the "User Agent Switcher" Firefox addon |
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14:45.26 | |Pixel| | then switch for "Opera" |
14:45.34 | Quelyn | Hello! |
14:45.39 | foxlit | safari! |
14:45.41 | |Pixel| | this way, armory will say "hey, this browser has no XML/XSLT" |
14:45.50 | |Pixel| | and will do the transformation server-side |
14:46.02 | |Pixel| | this way, no transformation client side |
14:46.12 | Dotted | aha |
14:46.12 | |Pixel| | thus, no way of freezing your lovely firefox |
14:46.27 | Dotted | but the stylesheet will be for opera and will look gay on FF |
14:46.47 | foxlit | Or you could file a bug against firefox |
14:46.49 | foxlit | Submit a patch |
14:46.54 | foxlit | And use the nightly build :) |
14:47.06 | |Pixel| | foxlit: our devs here are a bit too shy |
14:47.11 | |Pixel| | and don't really want to file a bug |
14:47.24 | |Pixel| | even though they managed to reproduce it in a test-case environment |
14:47.34 | |Pixel| | Dotted: not really |
14:47.36 | |Pixel| | just test it |
14:47.42 | |Pixel| | you'll see, it's still usable |
14:47.56 | Dotted | i remember using it (by your recommendation) because armory was slow as hell - while it went faster since you got raw html i got white boxes occastionally |
14:48.15 | |Pixel| | my recommendation was about the freezes |
14:48.19 | |Pixel| | :) |
14:48.19 | foxlit | I wonder, though |
14:48.23 | Dotted | lies |
14:48.35 | foxlit | Firefox addons can intercept and rewrite requests, right? |
14:48.47 | |Pixel| | probably |
14:49.27 | foxlit | Might be cleaner to write something to aggressively cache armory XSL |
14:49.40 | |Pixel| | XSLs are fine |
14:49.44 | |Pixel| | XMLs are not |
14:49.51 | |Pixel| | XSL files are served by apache |
14:49.55 | |Pixel| | there's no way they can timeout |
14:50.09 | |Pixel| | XML files are served by tomcat; they are the one timeouting occasionally |
14:50.24 | Dotted | ewww java no wonder then :P |
14:50.32 | |Pixel| | and of course, the XML files contain the data :) |
14:50.39 | |Pixel| | so, they "need" to by dynamic |
14:50.40 | foxlit | don't bash java (tm) |
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15:16.26 | Fisker- | Dotted fix: just use opera instead of FireFail |
15:17.05 | Dotted | if it wasnt bloated, and didnt have a UI made of fail sure |
15:17.16 | Fisker- | you can customize the ui |
15:17.16 | Fisker- | n00b |
15:20.42 | Gourra | so someone changed that npcbox use icon images instead of icon templates |
15:28.47 | sacarasc | hmmm, when WotLK comes out, will AD rep be worth something again? |
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15:33.55 | Kirkburn | What is it with people and changing the Races page :/ |
15:35.22 | Fisker- | admit it |
15:35.24 | Fisker- | it's you |
15:35.49 | Gourra | I was about to ask the same thing |
15:35.56 | Kirkburn | People keep changing Stormwind human to Human :/ |
15:36.03 | Gourra | and the latest edit is..I don't know, unnecessary? |
15:36.38 | Kirkburn | Gourra, links should almost always show where they go to |
15:36.51 | Kirkburn | i.e. a link that says Human should go to the Human page |
15:37.16 | Kirkburn | Which is an entirely different page to Stormwind human, which is the race we actually play in WoW, whether or not WoW labels them that way |
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15:49.20 | Gourra | btw Kirkburn, why isn't Races locked? isn't not like much is suspective to change |
15:49.49 | Kirkburn | Pages shouldn't be protected unless absolutely required :) |
15:50.07 | Gourra | <Kirkburn> What is it with people and changing the Races page :/ <- no? |
15:50.36 | Dotted | that doesnt make it alright to lock it |
15:51.51 | Kirkburn | Gourra, only if it was sustained vandalism, not misguided corrections :) |
15:55.48 | Kirkburn | There's a fair few other pages on the wiki needing unlocking, but they were only recorded on a list if their status was changed since the last upgrade |
15:55.53 | Kirkburn | Which is few of them :( |
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15:59.48 | xstasi | hi |
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16:29.32 | Kirkburn | *sigh* 994 health, 2998 mana |
16:29.42 | Kirkburn | Just not fair :( |
16:30.46 | pcj | i broke 20k health yesterday |
16:34.56 | Kirkburn | nice |
16:35.00 | Kirkburn | I'm level 35 though |
16:35.08 | Kirkburn | And not a warrior :P |
16:35.43 | Zarathustras | hm, did you guys know there is a tribute stone in Hillsbrad Foothills for Anthony Ray Stark? :o |
16:36.06 | Kirkburn | It's for a Blizz employee |
16:36.22 | Zarathustras | I was trying to take a horde lvl 28 but he kept backing away from me :( |
16:36.45 | Zarathustras | Yea, after 2 and a half years of playing, now I found out about it :p |
16:36.57 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dun_Garok |
16:37.09 | Kirkburn | :) |
16:37.14 | pcj | i'm not a warrior either kirkburn |
16:37.18 | Kirkburn | Pally? |
16:37.21 | pcj | yes |
16:37.30 | Kirkburn | Weirdo |
16:37.38 | Zarathustras | Anyone from Sargeras on here by any chance? |
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16:47.43 | Gourra | speaking of tributes: http://www.wowwiki.com/Captain_Armando_Ossex |
16:50.17 | winkiller | any macro wizard here? |
16:50.52 | Gourra | depends what you mean with "macro wizard" |
16:50.53 | winkiller | /focus [button:1] <br> /clearfocus [button:2] |
16:51.00 | winkiller | does that work? :P |
16:51.52 | pcj | html entities don't work in wow script |
16:52.10 | winkiller | no shit |
16:52.15 | Gourra | I think he just meant that to show as line break |
16:52.16 | winkiller | just didn't want to spam the channel |
16:52.58 | Gourra | I don't know but you could try |
16:53.49 | Gourra | I'll log to wow and check |
16:54.33 | winkiller | it's not the only one, I can try myself :P |
16:57.42 | winkiller | cool, it works |
16:57.46 | winkiller | didn't think I could do it |
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17:03.12 | winkiller | #showtooltip Polymorph - /cast [target=focus,exists,button:2] Polymorph - /cast Polymorph |
17:05.29 | pcj | no, hyphens don't work either |
17:09.00 | Kirkburn | oh, wow, blue world drop, perfect for a warlock :D |
17:09.18 | Kirkburn | Yay 1.1k hp, 3k mana :) |
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17:13.22 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13105 :) |
17:15.49 | pcj | zZzTempete, caching problem with moving mouse around too fast should be fixed :P |
17:18.51 | Kirkburn | ooh |
17:19.13 | Kaso | Kirkburn, every time i see items like that it reminds me how bad the (old)old-world item design was, from the start there should have been a magical-power style statiin the main attributes |
17:27.58 | Kirkburn | :/ |
17:31.20 | Gourra | oh great, explorer.exe make other apps freeze |
17:31.46 | ltcolumbo | that's because explorer is IE |
17:31.54 | ltcolumbo | that's your file browser |
17:32.11 | Gourra | no shit |
17:32.21 | ltcolumbo | IE is shit |
17:32.29 | Kaso | explorer isnt quite IE, but it is your OS shell. |
17:32.39 | Gourra | ^ that yes |
17:32.42 | Gourra | and it's annoying |
17:34.08 | Kirkburn | ltcolumbo, what OS? |
17:34.10 | ltcolumbo | a legacy of Microsoft trying to avoid removing IE because of the anti-trust lawsuit |
17:34.32 | Kirkburn | It's always been called explorer :/ |
17:34.40 | Gourra | by the way what's the thing at the bottom called? I can't get it back after executing explorer.exe |
17:34.53 | Gourra | (after 3-4 times) |
17:34.53 | Kirkburn | Internet Explorer is called such because it's explorer for the internet, not the other way around |
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17:35.07 | ltcolumbo | internet exploder |
17:36.02 | Kirkburn | Gourra, go to the task manager |
17:36.06 | Kirkburn | Ctrl+alt+del |
17:36.13 | Kirkburn | And then go to run, type explorer.exe |
17:36.27 | Gourra | yup, and it lists in the Processes tab |
17:36.27 | ltcolumbo | In a desperate attempt to try and kill Netscape, Microsoft "integrated" its browser into its OS (well, not really, but that's what they claim in order to get the US DOJ off their back). What this meant for Microsoft was that they got to keep their monopoly for a little bit longer, but it had much more dire consequences for consumers. It meant that consumers were now stuck with a very buggy browser and file system viewer because Internet Explorer was s |
17:36.31 | Kirkburn | Run might be under File-->Run |
17:37.01 | Kirkburn | ltcolumbo, that sounds like such an inbiased source |
17:37.04 | Gourra | oh great, I had to launch two explorer.exe, then execute one, for it to work |
17:37.05 | Kirkburn | *unbiased |
17:37.35 | ltcolumbo | Microsoft replaced the standard Explorer (the file system viewer) with IE which left users nowhere to hide from the bugs. |
17:37.53 | Gourra | .. |
17:37.54 | Gourra | what? |
17:38.04 | Kirkburn | oh noes, bugs? In software?! Surely not! |
17:38.19 | Gourra | I see, it's from http://sillydog.org/msbad.php |
17:38.29 | Gourra | http://sillydog.org/msbad.php#bundling |
17:38.33 | ltcolumbo | it's talking about the initial release of the shitty IE |
17:38.42 | ltcolumbo | it sucked ass then, and it sucks ass now |
17:38.54 | Kirkburn | "hide from the bugs", what, in explorer? Which, I'm sure, it says was also buggy. |
17:39.09 | ltcolumbo | they did replace explorer with IE |
17:39.36 | Kirkburn | No, I meant "which left users nowhere to hide from the bugs" ... is a silly phrase |
17:39.44 | ltcolumbo | http://www.microsuck.com/content/whatsbad.shtml |
17:39.55 | ltcolumbo | that's the entire article |
17:40.01 | Kirkburn | It's like saying upgrading to XP from Win 98 didn't allow them to escape from the XP bugs :/ |
17:40.14 | foxlit | windows explorer had bugs? |
17:40.16 | ltcolumbo | that will put it in proper context |
17:40.33 | Kirkburn | I'm not going to read articles from a site called "microsuck" |
17:40.57 | ltcolumbo | it's under Bundling of inferior products section |
17:41.14 | ltcolumbo | lol |
17:41.16 | ltcolumbo | fine |
17:41.31 | ltcolumbo | it does suck |
17:41.34 | Kirkburn | Much like I won't read articles from "applesux" or "zomgmozillaistehcrap" |
17:41.34 | ltcolumbo | but anyway |
17:41.46 | foxlit | That entire section is moronic. |
17:41.47 | ltcolumbo | I would |
17:41.55 | ltcolumbo | I don't avoid things because of the name |
17:42.00 | ltcolumbo | then I wouldn't have proper perspective |
17:42.21 | winkiller | Kirkburn: but.. but.. xp had bugs! |
17:42.22 | Kirkburn | I like unbiased sources, personally |
17:42.38 | ltcolumbo | I've very biased |
17:42.47 | ltcolumbo | but that comes from years of experience |
17:43.08 | Kirkburn | We all have years of experience, don't be silly :P |
17:43.33 | Kirkburn | Gourra, going back to your problem - I'm surprised you had to run it twice |
17:43.45 | ltcolumbo | I lived through the Stacker lawsuits |
17:43.45 | winkiller | no, it happens |
17:43.47 | Gourra | likewise |
17:43.48 | Kaso | Internet explorer is partially intergrated with explorer, however it is no means explorer = IE, and it is by no means unremovable, in europe microsoft has to provide the option of the "N" packages with IE and Media play stripped out |
17:43.57 | winkiller | sometimes you even have to explicitly kill explorer |
17:44.04 | ltcolumbo | it mearly "hides" IE |
17:44.04 | winkiller | before rerunning it 1/2x |
17:44.11 | ltcolumbo | it can't be removed |
17:44.22 | foxlit | Your issue with that is... |
17:44.27 | winkiller | YOU NO TAKE BROWSER |
17:44.28 | Kirkburn | winkiller, I think he did that |
17:44.43 | winkiller | yeeah, it scrolled oto fast |
17:44.47 | winkiller | couldn'z folloe |
17:44.48 | foxlit | You can use whatever you want to browse the web or your file system |
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17:45.18 | ltcolumbo | yeah, but joe average doesn't know that |
17:45.43 | ltcolumbo | and that makes up 90% of people who use windows |
17:46.12 | foxlit | "The buggy browser wouldn't have been too terrible since most people were still smart enough to use Netscape anyway," |
17:46.13 | winkiller | and who cares? |
17:46.14 | Gourra | also 55% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
17:46.19 | Kirkburn | It would be a good idea if in the next Windows there was direct links to alternative browsers |
17:46.23 | winkiller | lol Gourra |
17:46.36 | foxlit | Coherency is overrated! |
17:46.42 | winkiller | alternatives are overrated |
17:47.04 | winkiller | I had to boot windows on my laptop after some months because gnome wouldn't display my pdf correctly |
17:47.04 | Gourra | all hail microsoft |
17:47.17 | winkiller | SCANDALOUS! |
17:47.21 | ltcolumbo | I don't like their business model |
17:47.25 | winkiller | i love it |
17:47.26 | Kirkburn | IE7 as a browser is pretty good, y'know. And more secure in several ways than Fx (and others) in Vista due to its use of the sandbox mode |
17:47.29 | Gourra | sometimes I like to believe that 1984 was made by bill gates |
17:47.33 | Kirkburn | (which I'm really hoping Fx uses soon) |
17:47.40 | winkiller | "feel free to ninja our copies, we sell enough anyway" |
17:47.44 | winkiller | a damn fine business model |
17:47.52 | Fisker- | Fx is cheap copy of IE7 |
17:48.02 | winkiller | lol |
17:48.06 | Kirkburn | Shaddup Fisker- :) |
17:48.07 | ltcolumbo | they have the money to do that shit |
17:48.15 | winkiller | the ui designer for IE7 should be shot |
17:48.19 | foxlit | Fisker-: And Linux is infringing on microsoft IP! |
17:48.20 | Fisker- | hah |
17:48.22 | winkiller | and drowned. and several other things |
17:48.26 | foxlit | Why? |
17:48.29 | twsX | Why would you compare two crappy browsers? |
17:48.32 | foxlit | It's not a bad interface :P |
17:48.32 | winkiller | foxlit: not only MS, also Sun! and .. stuff |
17:48.33 | Fisker- | funny since firefox manages to copy most of their layout every time |
17:48.34 | twsX | And try to find out which one is worse? |
17:48.35 | Fisker- | also winkiller |
17:48.39 | winkiller | shut up twsX ;OP |
17:48.40 | Gourra | shot, drowned, molested, raped by gnomes.. |
17:48.43 | twsX | noes |
17:48.46 | ltcolumbo | firefox didn't copy shit |
17:48.48 | Fisker- | Did you see the pre-beta shots of IE7 those that came with vista? |
17:48.51 | Fisker- | sure it idd |
17:48.52 | winkiller | still the old Opera zealot? :D |
17:48.53 | Fisker- | did* |
17:48.56 | ltcolumbo | microsoft did |
17:48.56 | twsX | Konq. |
17:49.00 | winkiller | lol |
17:49.01 | Fisker- | Negative. |
17:49.03 | Gourra | "pre-beta" |
17:49.03 | Gourra | right |
17:49.05 | ltcolumbo | affirmative |
17:49.06 | twsX | or opera on windose, obviously |
17:49.08 | Fisker- | Negative. |
17:49.08 | winkiller | I don't like Konq |
17:49.11 | ltcolumbo | affirmative |
17:49.21 | Fisker- | The Browser bar was implemented in IE before it was in Fx for example |
17:49.38 | winkiller | what "browser bar"? |
17:49.39 | Fisker- | browser bar = information bar |
17:49.42 | Fisker- | or whatever it's called in Fx |
17:49.45 | winkiller | ah |
17:49.53 | Gourra | shall we go on how those "tools" (or w/e it's called) that came with Vista is a ripoff from MacOS X widgets? |
17:49.54 | winkiller | well, ofc Firefix came after IE |
17:49.54 | twsX | I actually poured Coke over a guy wearing a Firefox Shirt once. |
17:50.02 | winkiller | captain obvious strikes again |
17:50.15 | Fisker- | ... |
17:50.21 | ltcolumbo | windows ripped off MacOS, hell none of microsofts ideas are their own |
17:50.21 | Fisker- | you fail |
17:50.21 | Kirkburn | Amazingly, perhaps a browser wars discussion isn't all that fun |
17:50.32 | winkiller | agreed |
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17:50.36 | Gourra | "My browser is better than your browser!" |
17:50.36 | winkiller | let's take vi vs. emacs |
17:50.37 | foxlit | Hey, who let Kirkburn in here! |
17:50.37 | Fisker- | Firefox (whatever it's name might have been) was around back when IE had the information bar |
17:50.57 | winkiller | netscape also had an information bar |
17:50.58 | ltcolumbo | Dos wasn't even microsofts own creation |
17:51.06 | winkiller | no clue if IE 2 had one |
17:51.08 | winkiller | or mosaic |
17:51.09 | twsX | It actually emerged out of the MZ projects before it went by that name, if i recall correctly. |
17:51.10 | Fisker- | What's your points btw |
17:51.16 | Fisker- | Does that invalidate my point? |
17:51.16 | winkiller | but every windows app has one.. soo what? :D |
17:51.17 | Fisker- | No of course not |
17:51.18 | Gourra | what's your point? |
17:51.26 | winkiller | . |
17:51.32 | Fisker- | You claim Firefox didn't copy anything from IE, but it was the other way around |
17:51.33 | Fisker- | False. |
17:51.41 | ltcolumbo | bullshit lol |
17:51.46 | Fisker- | Whatever Microsoft may have copied from anyone else is irrelevant |
17:51.50 | winkiller | using known standards isn't copy :P |
17:52.02 | winkiller | how the hell can you bring up a statusbar |
17:52.03 | Fisker- | Oh, browser appearance is a standard now? |
17:52.05 | Gourra | arguing with Fisker- is like talking to a wall |
17:52.08 | ltcolumbo | when IE7 came out I laughed my ass off |
17:52.13 | ltcolumbo | it was a cheap clone of Firefox |
17:52.18 | Fisker- | Thought that was only stuff like HTML rendering, CSS rendering and stuff they call "Standards" |
17:52.28 | winkiller | ui design has standards |
17:52.35 | winkiller | i.e. what the user expects |
17:52.41 | winkiller | since windows 3.1 |
17:52.55 | Fisker- | The information bar was something new |
17:52.57 | ltcolumbo | oh god, don't remind me of 3.1 |
17:52.59 | Fisker- | so a user wouldn't expect it |
17:53.01 | Fisker- | also |
17:53.08 | winkiller | *sigh* whateber |
17:53.11 | Fisker- | When IE7 came out Firefox had already done a lot of releases |
17:53.18 | Fisker- | It was the same with IE6 |
17:53.32 | Fisker- | while retail-wise the information bar appeared later with IE, it was copied from IE while it was in the beta stages |
17:53.50 | winkiller | I insist that Netscape already had a bar |
17:53.56 | winkiller | netscape 3 |
17:54.00 | winkiller | in 1995 |
17:54.06 | ltcolumbo | lol |
17:54.08 | Fisker- | Point being? |
17:54.11 | ltcolumbo | this is hilarious |
17:54.13 | winkiller | NO CLUE |
17:54.15 | ltcolumbo | hahahaha |
17:54.19 | winkiller | you don't make sense at all |
17:54.23 | winkiller | why should I? :) |
17:54.31 | Fisker- | i do make sense |
17:54.37 | Fisker- | it's actually pretty easy to understand |
17:54.46 | Fisker- | atleast it must be since you can respond and understand what i'm writing |
17:54.48 | ltcolumbo | maybe we should all take the same drugs so we are on the same level |
17:54.56 | Fisker- | though if you couldn't that wouldn't be saying much |
17:54.58 | ltcolumbo | give me the coolaid |
17:55.10 | ltcolumbo | I want to believe |
17:55.52 | Fisker- | all i need now is for you refer Firefox as "FF" |
17:56.03 | Fisker- | and the masterwork is compelte |
17:56.04 | Fisker- | complete* |
17:56.13 | ltcolumbo | wtf? |
17:56.22 | ltcolumbo | I'm going back to work, psychobabel excluded |
17:56.22 | winkiller | I used to be call it Fb |
17:56.30 | winkiller | but then the name got changed :( |
17:56.51 | Kaso | pssh, real old school people call it Phoenix! |
17:58.10 | winkiller | oh, right |
18:00.01 | Kaso | Also on the theme of "x copied y" recently microsoft, mozilla, opera and konq people have been meeting to develop more standard look-and-feel across browsers to aid users, for example the Green/Red address bar indicating security status is one of these features thats beeing looked at from a cross browser perspective |
18:00.26 | winkiller | "Mozilla prefers it be abbreviated as Fx or fx" |
18:00.27 | winkiller | LOL |
18:00.30 | winkiller | I never ever heard that |
18:00.50 | Fisker- | Cool Kaso :o |
18:01.18 | winkiller | oh, that's why they changed the color I guess |
18:01.35 | winkiller | F[f|x] 2.0.0.8 had yellow, latest has blue |
18:01.49 | Kaso | http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/11/21/495507.aspx |
18:02.01 | Kaso | Info there, plus links to blogs by opera and mozzila about the same thing |
18:02.26 | winkiller | nice. not needed imho, but maybe I'm not the intended target audience: P |
18:03.09 | Fisker- | fucking shit |
18:03.14 | Fisker- | i hate wooden tables |
18:03.21 | Fisker- | just got a big chunk of wood under my nail |
18:03.35 | Kaso | don't claw at the table any more? |
18:04.07 | winkiller | poor Fisker. I still like the fact that you can indeed anything not human |
18:04.10 | winkiller | that gives me hope |
18:04.17 | winkiller | *can indeed hate* |
18:05.03 | Fisker- | my nail scooped up a bit of loosen wood |
18:05.14 | Fisker- | it's not 100% wood of course |
18:05.19 | Fisker- | it grinded down or something |
18:05.21 | Fisker- | whatever it's called |
18:06.58 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: All hands on deck for combat log changes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/07/all-hands-on-deck-for-combat-log-changes/ |
18:08.06 | Kaso | Fiberboard, chipboard, MDF ? |
18:08.20 | Fisker- | yeah probably fiber |
18:08.28 | Fisker- | slowinsider is sloooooooooooow |
18:08.41 | kd3 | slowinsider is slow |
18:08.42 | kd3 | bah |
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18:10.15 | Fisker- | slowkd3 is kd3333333333333333 |
18:10.16 | pcj | http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSWEB442320080207?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews&rpc=23&sp=true |
18:13.04 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080206/ap_on_hi_te/earns_time_warner_aol |
18:19.59 | Gourra | any coders who can change {{Npcbox}} back to use faction icon instead of faction image? |
18:20.29 | winkiller | lemme see |
18:20.42 | pcj | why gourra |
18:20.45 | winkiller | what do you mean exactly? |
18:21.06 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kresh |
18:21.09 | Gourra | see the npcbox |
18:21.12 | winkiller | wikia spotlight: digimoj |
18:21.15 | winkiller | s/j/m |
18:21.22 | Gourra | also http://www.wowwiki.com/Lady_Anacondra |
18:21.30 | pcj | Ah, I'll fix it |
18:22.06 | pcj | There, should be fixed now |
18:22.06 | Fisker- | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg177876#msg177876 |
18:22.07 | winkiller | uhm |
18:22.10 | Fisker- | anyone know anything about that? |
18:22.13 | winkiller | someone made faction=combat |
18:22.15 | winkiller | no wodner... |
18:22.50 | Gourra | that's against the rules? |
18:23.52 | Gourra | faction=combat is used on many places |
18:24.01 | winkiller | why? |
18:24.09 | winkiller | for me it's horde|neutral|ally |
18:24.14 | winkiller | combat makes no sense |
18:24.18 | Gourra | because it would indicate a fightable mob |
18:24.19 | pcj | OK, both pages are now fixed gourra |
18:24.28 | pcj | !jobqueue |
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18:24.29 | kd3 | because you talk to neutral npcs, you kill combat-aligned mobs |
18:24.29 | Gourra | great, thanks |
18:24.42 | Gourra | ^ that |
18:24.58 | winkiller | nvm then, but still makes no sense for me :) |
18:25.14 | winkiller | damn, too few people for Lurker :( |
18:25.19 | winkiller | 37% yesterday |
18:26.20 | Gourra | winkiller: did you get the gems? |
18:26.47 | winkiller | couldn't log yet |
18:26.55 | winkiller | was busy and now done AV daily on warr |
18:26.57 | winkiller | thanks :) |
18:27.00 | winkiller | I'm sure I got em |
18:27.00 | Gourra | np |
18:27.07 | Fisker- | doh |
18:27.12 | Gourra | azgalor down last night woo |
18:27.16 | Gourra | but I wasn't there :( |
18:27.18 | winkiller | nice |
18:27.19 | Gourra | damn birthdays |
18:27.36 | winkiller | yours? :P |
18:28.16 | Gourra | father's |
18:29.00 | winkiller | k |
18:29.41 | Kirkburn | I'm feeling slightly happier now that I know McCain is almost certainly going to be the GOP candidate :) |
18:29.51 | winkiller | GOP? |
18:29.59 | Kirkburn | Republican party |
18:29.59 | pcj | republican |
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18:30.08 | pcj | but why do you care kirkburn, you're not american |
18:30.14 | winkiller | screw america, until yesterday I thought it was obama vs clinton and nione else |
18:30.39 | Kirkburn | winkiller, I still don't *want* McCain, but he's better than the other republicans :P |
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18:30.48 | pcj | all the candidates suck |
18:30.54 | Kirkburn | At least McCain realises waterboarding is torture |
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18:31.02 | winkiller | John McClane > John McCain |
18:31.14 | winkiller | we got a fries brand here named McCain |
18:31.17 | winkiller | these rock |
18:31.41 | Kirkburn | mmm, McCain oven chips :) |
18:32.08 | Kirkburn | pcj, I care because it has a huge impact on the world, duh :P |
18:32.15 | Gourra | huuuuuge |
18:33.25 | winkiller | gief Schwarzenegger? :P |
18:34.54 | pcj | lol naturalized citizen |
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18:39.46 | Kaso | â |
18:42.03 | Riesz | Haga |
18:42.23 | Riesz | Hah even |
18:44.34 | winkiller | lol, warrior named "Msn" |
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18:47.34 | Riesz | Heh |
18:47.42 | Riesz | Hate lazy naming XD |
18:54.29 | Gourra | how about Ãrà gÃģrÅ then... |
18:54.53 | Gourra | seems like every italian on Hakkar EU know english from the LotR films |
18:55.03 | Dotted | [@Kirkburn]: pcj, I care because it has a huge impact on the world, duh :P <- well if they get another republican that wont be true anylonger in the future :P |
19:00.27 | twsX | (19:27:49) (+pcj) all the candidates suck <- ? |
19:00.41 | pcj | what |
19:00.57 | twsX | How can you say that, most of the democratic candidates were very good. :p |
19:01.08 | pcj | ...not really |
19:01.39 | twsX | Well, who would you have? |
19:02.04 | pcj | None of those candidates |
19:02.29 | twsX | So, you only hate everyon einvolved and have no positive feelings towards anyone? :) |
19:02.38 | pcj | right |
19:06.02 | foxlit | Archimonde's enrage mechanic is silly |
19:06.54 | foxlit | Having a horde of undead overrun the nightelves and wipe your raid in 10 minutes would've been so much cooler |
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20:05.42 | Dotted | Kirkburn you imba fail #newsspam! |
20:06.53 | Kirkburn | ? |
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20:08.56 | Dotted | you werent in there, and you went through the trouble advertising for it - not a very good role model you are! You should be ashamed of yourself! |
20:09.05 | Kirkburn | :O |
20:09.48 | Dotted | i've proabably lost several customers thanks to you now :( |
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20:15.24 | Taishi | Erm, can someone help me? about a year ago I was able to access Ghostlands as an Alliance at level 20, now I find its limited to 45+? |
20:15.39 | Taishi | Is this true or am I trying the wrong entrance? is there another way? |
20:15.53 | Kirkburn | I've not heard of that limit |
20:16.00 | Kirkburn | How are you trying to access it? |
20:16.12 | pcj | you got to the ghostlands at level 20 through EPL? |
20:16.15 | Taishi | Just trying to walk through the portal after the bridge |
20:16.19 | Taishi | Yes |
20:16.22 | pcj | holy hell |
20:16.28 | pcj | why |
20:16.35 | Taishi | Because I want a Lynx |
20:16.37 | Kirkburn | pcj, I've done a level 1 race to LHC before :P |
20:16.43 | Taishi | I've made it through EPL |
20:16.45 | Zarathustras | Hunters and their adventures! |
20:16.48 | Kirkburn | Although, actually, I was running the race :) |
20:16.51 | Taishi | I want to pass into Ghost lands but can't? |
20:16.53 | Kirkburn | *organising it |
20:17.02 | Kirkburn | Taishi, odd |
20:17.11 | Taishi | Just answer me please |
20:17.13 | Zarathustras | See if someone could summon you to there |
20:17.17 | Taishi | Does anyone here know or not? |
20:17.23 | Taishi | I'm already there!!!! |
20:17.29 | Zarathustras | >.< |
20:17.31 | Kirkburn | No, to the other side :P |
20:17.31 | Taishi | I'm not asking how to bloody get there! >_> |
20:17.37 | Taishi | Eh? |
20:17.41 | Kirkburn | Of the portal |
20:17.44 | ltcolumbo | I've never seen Alliance in Ghostlands |
20:17.51 | Taishi | I didn't know people could summon after the portal.. |
20:17.59 | Kirkburn | ltcolumbo, er ... Zul'Aman? |
20:18.00 | Taishi | Well I did make it through before |
20:18.07 | Taishi | I even got a Lynx from there |
20:18.20 | ltcolumbo | hmm |
20:18.26 | Kirkburn | Taishi, yeah, I'm surprised - I don't recall there being an announced change |
20:18.27 | pcj | well...if you can't do it...you can't do it |
20:18.30 | Kirkburn | It may have been added with ZA |
20:18.34 | pcj | Not much point in us telling you can |
20:18.37 | Taishi | I was helping a friend while doing a new toon and I get not allowed under 45 but I'm not even sure if its the right entrance |
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20:18.51 | pcj | There's only one entrance for alliance |
20:19.01 | ltcolumbo | I've made two characters there |
20:19.08 | Taishi | Which is North west top yes? |
20:19.18 | Taishi | Of EPL |
20:19.27 | Kirkburn | Taishi, um, that's an instance |
20:19.27 | pcj | Err, north middle |
20:19.34 | Taishi | LMAO |
20:19.35 | Kirkburn | You're at Stratholme >_< |
20:19.37 | pcj | Don't go into stratholme noob |
20:19.38 | Taishi | So it IS The wrong one? |
20:19.41 | Kirkburn | Yeah, sorry |
20:19.44 | Taishi | Ooops.. |
20:19.47 | Kirkburn | Should've noticed when you said bridge :) |
20:19.50 | Taishi | So where is the entrance? |
20:19.58 | Taishi | Yeah, I wondered WTF that was for lol |
20:20.00 | Kirkburn | The one you want is further south and further east |
20:20.07 | Taishi | I was like "I don't recall this.." |
20:20.11 | Kirkburn | Not too far north of LHC |
20:20.17 | Taishi | Argh.. |
20:20.24 | Taishi | It was hard getting to that instance lol ._.; |
20:20.26 | pcj | Err, kirkburn, it's all the way north of EPL |
20:20.36 | Taishi | Thanks anyways guys, I was upset incase I coldn't do it |
20:20.43 | Kirkburn | pcj, the portal to Ghostlands |
20:20.43 | Taishi | *couldn't |
20:20.47 | Kirkburn | Taishi, wait a sec |
20:20.48 | pcj | Yes, north side of EPL |
20:20.54 | Taishi | Hmm? |
20:21.05 | Kirkburn | pcj, you're right |
20:21.06 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Eastern_Plaguelands_Map.jpg |
20:21.09 | Kirkburn | See on there |
20:21.14 | pcj | Of course I am |
20:21.19 | Kirkburn | The road at the top, on the right |
20:21.39 | Kirkburn | pcj, sorry, had the map skewed clockwise in my mind :) |
20:21.47 | pcj | nub |
20:21.52 | Taishi | Ohhh yeah.... |
20:21.58 | Taishi | Man I feel stupid now lol |
20:22.05 | Taishi | I couldn't 100% remember |
20:22.06 | Kirkburn | Well done on reaching Strat though :P |
20:22.09 | Taishi | Anyways, thanks |
20:22.13 | Taishi | Haha thanks |
20:22.16 | Kirkburn | Pleasure :) |
20:22.20 | Taishi | Trust me, it was hard |
20:22.22 | Taishi | VERY hard |
20:22.31 | Taishi | I had to be persistant to get to that instant |
20:22.37 | Taishi | AT least now I know about it though haha |
20:22.42 | Taishi | Thanks a bunch |
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20:30.23 | pcj | wtf http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild:OA_%28Korgath_US%29&action=history |
20:33.16 | Kirkburn | Great category intro "This category lists the following weapons", followed by the category. Yay self-fulfilling category! |
20:33.53 | foxlit | "This category contains all categories that do not contain themselves" |
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20:36.07 | Taishi | Argh.. friend had to go to bed |
20:36.14 | Taishi | But I got another question if ya don't mind |
20:36.31 | pcj | ~data |
20:36.31 | infobot | Don't Ask To Ask. Just ASK |
20:36.39 | Taishi | You mentioned about someone being able to summon to where I wish to go? how does one gain that ability? |
20:36.56 | pcj | warlocks can do it |
20:37.02 | Taishi | At what level? |
20:37.06 | Taishi | What do they require? |
20:37.10 | equiraptor | 18, I believe, and it takes a soul shard |
20:37.20 | equiraptor | They have to make the soul shard when they kill something. |
20:37.20 | Taishi | I see.. |
20:37.21 | Kirkburn | equiraptor speaks :O |
20:37.37 | equiraptor | So though it doesn't cost them money, it does cost them time. So tips or returned favors for friends are good. |
20:37.49 | equiraptor | It also takes two other people, and all must be in the same group (IIRC) |
20:37.50 | pcj | level 20 actually |
20:37.57 | equiraptor | Yes, Kirkburn. I don't know why, though. :) |
20:38.01 | Kirkburn | hehe |
20:38.04 | equiraptor | pcj: Darn, my memory was faulty. |
20:38.05 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ritual_of_Summoning |
20:38.47 | Taishi | Ok that helps :) |
20:38.55 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Tales from the Lion's Pride Inn: Skirmish - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/07/tales-from-the-lions-pride-inn-skirmish/ |
20:39.02 | pcj | hi dutempete :) |
20:40.57 | DuTempete | morning :) |
20:41.17 | pcj | i fixed your bug btw |
20:41.34 | DuTempete | oh good |
20:41.48 | DuTempete | glad to hear it :) |
20:42.02 | Kirkburn | Someone, go break it! :P |
20:42.11 | Dotted | Kirkburn ok link |
20:42.18 | Taishi | Ok |
20:42.32 | Taishi | Correct me if I missunderstood but a soul shard can be gained from ANY mob? |
20:42.46 | Dotted | thats green level or higher |
20:42.52 | Taishi | Right |
20:43.04 | Taishi | Anyone know the level ragne for Ghostlands? lol |
20:43.15 | Dotted | 10-20 or something like that |
20:43.35 | Taishi | Sweet, so a level 20 Warlock should be able to retrieve a soul shard from that zone |
20:44.06 | Taishi | So.. if I find the right crazy Warlock, or make one myself, I can teleport someone into that zone providing I had 2 other crazy nuts with me |
20:44.08 | Dotted | and higher yes |
20:44.11 | Taishi | Or can they be any level? |
20:44.30 | Taishi | The 2 you need for ritual, can they be like level over 50? |
20:44.38 | Dotted | any level |
20:44.43 | Taishi | Cus I donno that many players as crazy as me to do that journy lol |
20:44.57 | Dotted | what journy? |
20:45.12 | Taishi | Run through EPL to Ghostlands |
20:45.15 | Taishi | At level 20 |
20:45.29 | Dotted | pfff thats nothing |
20:45.41 | Taishi | Dude, you die at least 6 times |
20:45.45 | Taishi | Anyone normal would go mad |
20:45.51 | Taishi | It gives me head ache sometiems |
20:45.53 | Taishi | *sometiems |
20:45.57 | Taishi | **sometimes >_< |
20:46.31 | Taishi | imo Plaguelands is NOT nothing for that level, its suicide |
20:46.41 | Taishi | And I know that from experiance |
20:46.46 | Dotted | swimming from darkshore to azshara |
20:46.49 | Dotted | is more fun |
20:46.50 | Taishi | brb, mum's left her phone upstairs >_> |
20:47.04 | Taishi | Erm.. thats what I had to do dude |
20:47.07 | Taishi | And I did it |
20:47.10 | Taishi | So whoopy doo |
20:47.11 | Taishi | brb |
20:48.44 | Dotted | you knowm Taishi |
20:48.52 | Dotted | how long have you beeen playing? |
20:49.13 | Taishi | Ok back |
20:49.57 | Taishi | How long doesn't matter, the fact that I did it does |
20:50.07 | Taishi | I don't bloody care if you played it 1 year or 3 years more than me |
20:50.23 | Dotted | nothing to do with what i was about to ask >_> |
20:50.31 | Taishi | Oh and I'd -love- to see you make it through to the level 45 instance with less than 6 deaths |
20:50.34 | Taishi | At level 10 |
20:50.39 | Taishi | Cus I made it to there to, at that level |
20:50.43 | Taishi | I just did it a minute ago |
20:50.50 | Taishi | Took me alot of deaths but I didn't care |
20:51.04 | Taishi | The fact that I'm more willing than most is all that matters |
20:51.04 | Dotted | or rather i should be asking, do you remember the PTR contest blizzard had once where you could get a spot in the BC closed beta? |
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20:51.40 | Taishi | Naw, I wasn't around during the time it went into beta |
20:51.55 | Dotted | alright |
20:51.58 | Dotted | in that contest |
20:52.16 | Dotted | there was 2, 1 leveling from 1-50 in the shortest amount of time |
20:52.29 | Dotted | and another with level 19 pvp |
20:52.30 | Taishi | Interesting |
20:52.36 | Dotted | WSG to be exact |
20:52.42 | Dotted | getting as much honor as possible |
20:52.45 | Dotted | anyway |
20:52.59 | Dotted | i was on the honor contest server |
20:53.07 | Taishi | Ok |
20:53.10 | Dotted | max level was 19 - you couldnt get any higher |
20:53.35 | Dotted | so what i did was to explorere all of Eastern Kingdoms and get all flight paths |
20:53.36 | Taishi | Heh, that would remind me of Guild Wars |
20:53.56 | Dotted | i would have done Kalimdor aswell but contest ended before i could |
20:55.11 | Dotted | man STV was a bitch |
20:55.22 | Taishi | I donno what your main point is since I covered ALOT of the eastern side too before I quited on my hunter |
20:55.34 | Dotted | at level 19 :P? |
20:55.41 | Taishi | Around 20 yeah |
20:55.48 | Dotted | well my point is |
20:55.52 | Taishi | After doing EPL I dared to face anythign |
20:55.59 | Taishi | *anything |
20:56.10 | Dotted | the epl / ghostland walk isnt that impressive compared to some of the things i've done =P |
20:56.13 | Taishi | When you die so many times it becomes no big deal and somewhat laughable |
20:56.23 | Dotted | idd |
20:56.29 | Taishi | idd? |
20:56.34 | Dotted | indeed |
20:56.39 | Taishi | Ah |
20:56.57 | Taishi | Well yeah, so we could say we're both dare devils and went on parelless insane adventures :P |
20:57.24 | Taishi | I went to Ghostlands first time round to get my pet, then I decided to take a tour since I as there anyways, my journy took me all over t he east contentant |
20:57.47 | Taishi | I went to the dwarves, the humans and even some harbour on the west side I never knew of south east |
20:58.07 | Taishi | *west continent |
20:58.19 | Taishi | There's a harbour that'll take ya to it |
20:58.32 | Taishi | Never knew about it til i went on that little tour |
20:59.08 | Dotted | menethil? |
20:59.14 | Taishi | Yeah, I think so |
20:59.17 | Dotted | ah |
20:59.28 | Taishi | The name is definitely familiar |
20:59.32 | Taishi | Its been a while |
20:59.50 | Dotted | some good stuff hapening there before we had the shitty BGs ruining world pvp :( |
21:00.13 | Taishi | Yeah, kind of the reason why I quit |
21:00.33 | Taishi | And I got sick of getting ganked by high levels |
21:01.00 | Dotted | i remember my first guild (was also in the open beta of clissic wow), we raided horde towns 1 time a week |
21:01.01 | Taishi | If I'm not mistaken, 2 days I gave a perfect example of what happened to me when I confronted a blood elf hunter same level as me |
21:01.05 | Dotted | damn i mss that |
21:01.22 | Taishi | Heh, fun |
21:01.46 | Taishi | Well now days you can't even have a respectful match against the horde |
21:01.49 | Dotted | the most fun was because the horde actually repsonded |
21:01.57 | Dotted | =P |
21:02.15 | Dotted | noone cares much if someone raids a town |
21:02.19 | Taishi | Well, if you want me to repeat what I stated a couple of days ago? I think you weren't in chat at the time |
21:02.38 | Dotted | dont think i was no |
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21:03.12 | Taishi | This blood elf in question ran back to the safety of the camp where they had griffons or whatever they fly on their side, and called in a high level to kill me |
21:03.25 | Taishi | Instead of trying to face me one on one |
21:03.44 | Kirkburn | Don't you just love photos of kids with a gun pointed at the camera? It's so ... impressive. |
21:03.57 | Taishi | lol? |
21:04.14 | Kirkburn | Just things I come across that annoy me :) |
21:04.19 | Dotted | http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wowmini/en/ |
21:04.38 | Dotted | Taishi :D |
21:04.47 | Dotted | who wouldnt do that? |
21:04.57 | Taishi | .... |
21:05.09 | Taishi | @ Kirburn's post |
21:05.23 | Taishi | Talk about trying to steal every gaming industry they can think of >_> |
21:06.27 | Taishi | And as for Dotted's comment, any respectable player with some dignaty wouldn't |
21:06.32 | Taishi | I would just face em 1 on 1 |
21:06.45 | Taishi | Not be petty and run for a high level to do the job |
21:06.48 | Taishi | Thats pathetic |
21:07.20 | Taishi | FFS as my druid I faced players 10 levels or higher than me |
21:07.30 | Taishi | And I didn't have all that uber epic gear crap to brag about and save my hide |
21:07.50 | Taishi | I just was persistant and rufeless |
21:08.59 | Taishi | Sorry but I think anyone who plays on PvP games needs to learn to face the danger, not run away to hide behind some high level's skirt |
21:09.22 | Taishi | If it were any game such as ShadowBane, a high level would have killed the player for being such a coward |
21:10.06 | pcj | who are you talking to |
21:10.15 | Taishi | Anyone who cares to listen I guess |
21:10.24 | Taishi | And mainly Dotted since he was talking to me |
21:11.17 | Dotted | well |
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21:11.35 | Dotted | blizzard more or less forced that mentallity upon the players |
21:11.51 | Taishi | No, they forced it on themselves |
21:12.04 | Dotted | blizzard did |
21:12.04 | Taishi | Blizzard didn't play any role in "Run to mummy" act |
21:12.24 | Taishi | Since when did they advise us to run to someone of a higher level to gank soemone who's even match to us? |
21:12.33 | Dotted | by discoureging (sp?) world pvp its all carebear show nowunless its 3 vs 1 |
21:12.52 | Taishi | lol carebear |
21:13.06 | Taishi | Erm whats sp mean btw? |
21:13.14 | kd3 | spelling |
21:13.22 | Taishi | And I don't recall Blizzard discouraging PvP |
21:13.27 | kd3 | as in "I'm unsure of the spelling of this word" |
21:13.33 | Taishi | And if they did, players clearly didn't take note of it |
21:13.43 | Dotted | Taishi world pvp where is it? |
21:13.52 | Taishi | Everywhere? |
21:13.56 | Dotted | no those objectives in outland doesnt count |
21:14.01 | Taishi | Or in most palces where PvP is optional |
21:14.07 | Dotted | im talking epic scale town raids baby |
21:14.14 | Taishi | Dude, when I played I was PKed in Darkshore |
21:14.31 | Dotted | ganing isnt world pvp |
21:14.31 | Taishi | I donno what its like now but it wasn't that easy back then to avoid it |
21:14.41 | Dotted | precisly |
21:14.55 | Taishi | I don't get what you're saying tbh |
21:15.03 | Dotted | but with DHK's and BGs was intreduced world pvp got killed |
21:15.06 | Taishi | And no, I don't class ganking as PvP since its an unfair fight |
21:15.26 | Taishi | Really? |
21:16.02 | Dotted | Taishi imaging Hillsbrad Foothills with 100 alliance defending southshore with a horde of hordes attacking |
21:16.16 | Dotted | that we had once |
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21:16.20 | Dotted | sure it lagged |
21:16.28 | Dotted | but it was fun regardless |
21:16.39 | Taishi | But dude, THAT is PvP |
21:16.46 | Taishi | Not going out in the world picking off lowbies |
21:16.47 | Dotted | but it got killed |
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21:16.57 | Dotted | thats what im saying |
21:17.04 | Dotted | you dont see it |
21:17.13 | kd3 | it got killed becuase it was crashing servers and preventing anyone else from getting quests done |
21:17.23 | Dotted | yes |
21:17.34 | Dotted | it was still fun however :P |
21:17.39 | kd3 | oh, of course |
21:17.43 | kd3 | I rather enjoyed SS/TM |
21:18.00 | Dotted | if i ever invent a time maschine |
21:18.01 | Taishi | I really don't see what you were saying to start with actually has anything to do with it |
21:18.09 | Taishi | From what I could tell you were talking about open PK |
21:18.10 | Dotted | guess what im gonna do |
21:18.15 | Taishi | Being able to kill anyone anywhere |
21:18.17 | Taishi | Or most places |
21:19.00 | Taishi | Big waging wars I call PvP, ganking lowbies for fun isn't, its just sad |
21:19.16 | Dotted | yep |
21:19.20 | Taishi | Thats what my arguement was to begin with and still is, and I'm pretty sure it still goes on |
21:19.24 | Dotted | my opinion too |
21:19.40 | Dotted | but ganking is still a small part of it |
21:20.09 | Taishi | I know that |
21:20.35 | Taishi | But I was saying right from the start that ganking lowbies is pathetic and anyone who turns tail and runs to a high level to gank someone cus they are even level are pathetic |
21:20.39 | Dotted | i corsped camped a lowbie today actually |
21:20.43 | Taishi | And that high level ought to be ashamed |
21:20.55 | Dotted | nah |
21:20.55 | Taishi | Then I say the same for you |
21:20.59 | Taishi | Thats nothing to be proud of |
21:21.09 | Dotted | well he killed my quest giver |
21:21.20 | Kirkburn | Whilst playing on DuTempete's server, I am constantly reminded why I rolled PvE |
21:21.21 | Dotted | so he needed to be diciplined |
21:21.35 | Dotted | PvE is for fags Kirkburn |
21:21.36 | Taishi | And you don't think camping his grave is OTT? |
21:21.37 | DuTempete | Do you have a lot of issues? |
21:21.43 | Dotted | ergo you must be a woman |
21:21.53 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, I like to explore :( |
21:22.01 | DuTempete | Yeah, that'll do it :P |
21:22.01 | Kirkburn | Dotted, language, please |
21:22.05 | Taishi | There's nothing wrong with PvE |
21:22.21 | DuTempete | I learned a long time ago to stick to the quiet places whilst leveling |
21:22.23 | pcj | lol @ kirkburn when you told zeal to fuck off |
21:22.25 | Dotted | Taishi well i dint exatly wait for him to return, but when i spotted him i killed him |
21:22.33 | Kirkburn | pcj, there's a big difference |
21:22.35 | Taishi | As a matter of fact I turn to FFXI many times just to enjoy it and get away from the lametards who think ganking is all good sport |
21:22.36 | Kirkburn | A BIG difference |
21:22.43 | Dotted | Kirkburn explorer i win, but only on pvp servers |
21:22.51 | pcj | yeah, yours was a lot worse |
21:22.53 | Taishi | ITs as bad as those sick people who fight defenseless people iRL |
21:23.01 | Taishi | Its not funny, its sick and stupid |
21:23.08 | DuTempete | pcj, knock it off. |
21:23.20 | Dotted | pcj gief details |
21:23.35 | Dotted | always good to have dirt on admins :P |
21:23.46 | DuTempete | Why are you insistent on always laying into Kirk about that, pcj? |
21:24.02 | Dotted | DuTempete because he has @ |
21:24.07 | Dotted | as i said |
21:24.16 | Dotted | dirt on admins == win |
21:24.30 | Taishi | Erm.. call me blind but I see a + not a @ |
21:24.37 | pcj | Well, he's the one who said to watch language |
21:24.38 | Dotted | Kirkburn has @ |
21:24.52 | Taishi | Oh right, I think I get what ya saying now lol |
21:24.53 | DuTempete | So, he oopses once, and now he's never going to be able to make up for it? |
21:25.01 | Dotted | yes DuTempete |
21:25.10 | DuTempete | That's bullshit. |
21:25.12 | Dotted | thats the life of an opper |
21:25.19 | Dotted | well |
21:25.26 | Dotted | thats just how it goes |
21:25.32 | Taishi | Uh oh.. this doesn't look good |
21:25.36 | DuTempete | No, that's the life of someone who has people who are jealous of him. |
21:26.05 | DuTempete | Getting op doesn't take away someone's humanity. Fandy would have op, were he to come in here. Adys has op. |
21:26.13 | Dotted | im an opper of multiple channels and if i did the same thing, i wouldnt be surprised if someone said "hey you" |
21:26.14 | DuTempete | Do you expect either of them not to tell someone to fuck off? |
21:26.32 | DuTempete | Yeah, a time or two. But not on and on and on. |
21:26.53 | DuTempete | Maybe it's a littl emore surprising to folks because it's Kirk, but for chrissakes, you need to get over it. |
21:26.58 | Dotted | wellt thats a matter of opinion :P |
21:27.08 | Taishi | Erm, I know I'm new here and should mind my own business, but if thats true, Du has a point |
21:27.42 | DuTempete | Which is a matter of opinion? |
21:27.48 | DuTempete | and if what is true, Taishi? |
21:28.03 | Taishi | If its true that he keeps getting on Kirb's case |
21:28.09 | Taishi | Then I think you have a point |
21:28.11 | Dotted | some of us likes to be kids still despite our age DuTempete :P |
21:28.26 | DuTempete | I think he reminds him of it at least once a day. |
21:28.40 | DuTempete | And this was what, a week? two weeks ago? |
21:28.59 | Taishi | I see |
21:29.07 | DuTempete | Yeah, well maybe you need to grow up, too. Or at least take my telling you to behave better like a man. |
21:29.11 | Taishi | Well like I said, if its true then I'd be with you on that opinion |
21:30.08 | DuTempete | Kirkburn shouldn't have to deal with that just because he's the op least expected. |
21:30.09 | Dotted | i think of it as comically relief |
21:30.27 | Taishi | Hell, I've seen ops or admins fight in simular manner, imo its not exactly about "Its how their life is" cus its not |
21:30.48 | Taishi | 1 gets stuck up and/or jealous of the other then it just never ends for them both |
21:31.54 | Dotted | ~wwlogs |
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21:32.27 | Taishi | Man I got such a head ache ._. |
21:32.34 | DuTempete | sorry :( |
21:32.48 | Taishi | Eh, its not exactly your fault Du |
21:33.08 | Taishi | That effort to get my friend into Ghotlands already gave me one |
21:33.12 | DuTempete | I still feel bad for you :P |
21:33.26 | Taishi | I logged off the game to take a break but yeah, this kind of isn't helping |
21:33.57 | Taishi | I couldn't believe he had to log out before I was able to realise we took the wrong path |
21:34.18 | Taishi | I think I might just leave my hunter where she is and take him tomorrow if he doesn't try to TP out before I see him again |
21:34.42 | Taishi | I'd do a warlock to make life easier but I personally don't wanna be a warlock lol |
21:34.46 | DuTempete | heh... I still haven't been there. |
21:34.49 | Taishi | So to me its a little bit of a waste of time |
21:34.57 | DuTempete | awww warlocks are fun :) |
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21:35.06 | Taishi | So is druid and hunter :P |
21:35.23 | DuTempete | meh |
21:35.27 | Taishi | lol |
21:35.27 | DuTempete | I had issues with the druid |
21:35.32 | DuTempete | too many options |
21:35.34 | Taishi | I love it personally |
21:35.41 | Taishi | I think it depends on what you do with it |
21:35.43 | winkiller | too many optione? |
21:35.49 | Taishi | Since its a class that can go 3 ways in a way |
21:35.58 | DuTempete | and I liked each playstyle, so felt rather divided whilst playing it. |
21:36.08 | Dotted | hmm im gonna need me some popcorn reading through last weeks logs |
21:36.09 | winkiller | feral all the way :D |
21:36.16 | Taishi | I mean you can be an uber healer/caster mage type, an uber fighter killer or a tank |
21:36.29 | Taishi | If you think of trying all 3 you probably would gimp it |
21:36.35 | Taishi | Cus there's just not enough points to do it |
21:36.35 | DuTempete | basically you can play every class role in the game :P |
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21:36.41 | Taishi | Yep |
21:37.01 | Taishi | Thats why druid imo is fun |
21:37.05 | Taishi | So many options to choose |
21:37.08 | Taishi | So many paths to take |
21:37.23 | Taishi | I gues I like it cus it was like my Red Mage in FFXI |
21:37.29 | Taishi | That has simular playstyle |
21:37.35 | Taishi | Spell caster, melee dealer etc |
21:37.42 | DuTempete | heh... I tried FFXI once... |
21:37.51 | DuTempete | That UI made me want to cut myself. |
21:37.54 | DuTempete | I couldn't play. |
21:38.00 | Taishi | Its good but players spoil it, just like WoW really :P |
21:38.06 | Taishi | But in a way, worse |
21:38.09 | Taishi | Cus you have to party |
21:38.17 | Taishi | You can't just say "Fuck you, I'm going solo" |
21:38.22 | Taishi | Parden my french |
21:38.26 | pcj | omfg language |
21:38.34 | Dotted | brb crabbing some popcorn |
21:38.35 | Taishi | ... |
21:38.46 | DuTempete | it's ok, we don't mind swearing too badly, as long as it isn't crazy :P |
21:38.52 | Taishi | Sprry [ck bit ypi lomda deserved that |
21:39.00 | Taishi | oops lmao |
21:39.21 | Taishi | I clicked scroll up by accident and typoed bad |
21:39.26 | pcj | gg |
21:39.35 | Taishi | * Sorry pcj but you kinda deserved that |
21:39.59 | pcj | !wwstats |
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21:40.08 | DuTempete | We do mind things like "fag" or "n------" if you get my point |
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21:40.20 | Dotted | OMFG DuTempete |
21:40.26 | Dotted | YOU ARE EVEN WORSE THAN ME |
21:40.26 | Taishi | Yeah, I think homophobic comments needs to be left outside |
21:40.42 | DuTempete | hence why dotted was told to watch his mount |
21:40.47 | Taishi | And erm, not sure what the n word was but I'd have a guess |
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21:40.56 | Taishi | lol mount |
21:41.13 | Dotted | Taishi nosepicker |
21:41.24 | Dotted | not what you thought it was =P |
21:41.24 | Taishi | Excuse me? |
21:41.28 | DuTempete | hehe |
21:41.31 | Dotted | the n word |
21:41.37 | Dotted | nosepicker |
21:41.40 | Taishi | lol O_o |
21:41.40 | Dotted | nvm |
21:41.50 | Taishi | You're funny Dotted |
21:41.54 | Taishi | Weird, but funny :P |
21:41.59 | DuTempete | he's danish... |
21:42.03 | Taishi | Ahh |
21:42.05 | DuTempete | that's funny enough right there |
21:42.08 | Dotted | yes people ear me |
21:42.12 | Dotted | *eat >_> |
21:42.17 | Taishi | LMAO |
21:42.24 | Taishi | I was about to say Danish pasties are nice |
21:42.31 | DuTempete | danish pasties?! |
21:42.34 | Taishi | Yeah |
21:42.41 | DuTempete | I couldn't imagine wearing those. |
21:42.43 | Dotted | thats why americans are so phat :P |
21:42.45 | DuTempete | That would be gross. |
21:42.46 | Taishi | O_o |
21:42.49 | Taishi | Its food dude |
21:42.59 | DuTempete | you mean pastries? |
21:43.02 | Taishi | And FYI I'm not American |
21:43.07 | DuTempete | you are? |
21:43.09 | Taishi | No.. pasties |
21:43.13 | DuTempete | British? |
21:43.16 | Taishi | Yeah |
21:43.22 | DuTempete | in which case saying pasties is ok |
21:43.23 | Dotted | not another brit |
21:43.30 | Taishi | WTF do you class as a pasty where you're from? lol |
21:43.55 | DuTempete | hrmm... I would say pastry :P But lemme do a little research :P I could ask Kirkburn, too. |
21:44.09 | Taishi | Actually I was wondering why you said eww to start with |
21:44.21 | Taishi | So whatever you thought to start with I'd prefer to know :P |
21:44.42 | Taishi | You said something about wearing them? O_o lol |
21:44.47 | DuTempete | Is this what you're talking about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty |
21:44.52 | DuTempete | (look at the disambig) |
21:45.21 | Taishi | Yep, thats he one |
21:45.28 | Taishi | *the |
21:45.33 | DuTempete | look at the disambig for what I was thinking of :P |
21:45.50 | Dotted | ok im off to get that popcorn - brb |
21:46.01 | DuTempete | pcj was probably thinking the same thing :P |
21:46.08 | Taishi | erm.. |
21:46.11 | DuTempete | hehe |
21:46.12 | Taishi | Where would that be? lol |
21:46.15 | pcj | heh |
21:46.25 | DuTempete | don't lie. You were, weren't you? |
21:46.30 | Taishi | I don't get what you mean I don't think |
21:46.43 | DuTempete | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasties |
21:47.19 | Taishi | OMFG LMAO |
21:47.33 | Taishi | Well.. I never knew that XD |
21:47.48 | DuTempete | hehehe |
21:47.55 | Taishi | I know some words that America have vs British is funny but that one takes the biscuit |
21:48.04 | DuTempete | However, your idea of a pasty, vs my idea of a Danish is a little different, too |
21:48.19 | DuTempete | I think of fruit filled pastries, or cheese. |
21:48.41 | Taishi | Erm, our danish are normally mixed |
21:48.45 | Taishi | Like meat and veg |
21:48.54 | Taishi | Never really came across any fruit ones |
21:49.09 | Miyari | I am hungry. :( |
21:49.15 | Taishi | Although I do recall someone at a pasty shop suggesting the idea |
21:49.20 | Taishi | Yeah, its making me want one now lol |
21:49.24 | Miyari | All this talk of pasties and pastries I don't care what is in it but I want one. |
21:49.25 | DuTempete | hehe |
21:49.27 | Taishi | Damn wish it wasn't so late here |
21:49.44 | DuTempete | meh... it's only 9:49 :P |
21:49.54 | DuTempete | ought to be something open, still? |
21:49.55 | winkiller | 22:49 |
21:50.02 | Taishi | Dude, find a bakery store store thats open at this hour and I'll even buy you one : |
21:50.02 | DuTempete | Or do you live in a quiet neighbourhood? |
21:50.14 | Taishi | * :P |
21:50.36 | DuTempete | well, maybe a bakery might not be open. |
21:50.41 | Taishi | Especially one ready that sells ready cooked homemade (or whichever you wanna call it) |
21:50.52 | Taishi | Akka they make it and bake it on the terrace |
21:50.58 | Taishi | *aka |
21:51.05 | DuTempete | on the terrace? really? |
21:51.10 | Taishi | Yeah |
21:51.23 | Taishi | OMG please don't say you have a different word for that too? |
21:51.39 | DuTempete | you don't mean premises(sp)? |
21:51.41 | Taishi | Where the building is at basically >_> |
21:51.43 | Taishi | Yes |
21:51.47 | Taishi | On the premises |
21:51.49 | Dotted | OMG NOSEPICKER! |
21:51.51 | Taishi | They do that here |
21:52.06 | Taishi | Hell we even have pizza parla that do that |
21:52.11 | DuTempete | Terrace is usually a patio or outcropping that is outdoors :P |
21:52.20 | Taishi | Probably seplled parlar wrong but anyway |
21:52.31 | Taishi | Eh, terrace to us means premises |
21:52.31 | DuTempete | parlour |
21:52.44 | Taishi | lol definetly not that spelling here dude |
21:52.47 | DuTempete | That's not one I've heard from Kirkburn, yet :P |
21:52.53 | Taishi | I think its possibly parler or something |
21:53.01 | Taishi | I donno without checking |
21:53.05 | Taishi | I'm not an ace speller |
21:53.20 | Taishi | Oh hang on |
21:53.29 | Taishi | I know how to check and prove even how its spelled here :P |
21:53.53 | DuTempete | Well, I'm a fair shot at British spellings, but there are some homynyms that have special spellings that I'm not good atm. |
21:53.56 | PhotoJim | "it" :) |
21:54.10 | DuTempete | Shush, PhotoJim, Canadians don't count. |
21:54.18 | PhotoJim | Sure we do. 1, 2, 3, 4... |
21:54.36 | PhotoJim | Parlor/parlour btw, American/British. |
21:54.57 | *** kick/#wowwiki [PhotoJim!n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net] by DuTempete (har har) |
21:55.21 | DuTempete | That'll show him. |
21:55.26 | Taishi | Oh damn it.. |
21:55.29 | *** join/#wowwiki PhotoJim (i=jim@hobart.photojim.ca) |
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21:55.32 | DuTempete | :P |
21:55.32 | PhotoJim | Play nicely :) |
21:55.42 | Taishi | I can't prove it cus the company I thought of is called "Prima Pizza" lol |
21:55.48 | DuTempete | Sure, when you stop being a smart-ass :P |
21:55.51 | Taishi | I'm sure I knew one with that word in its name |
21:56.04 | Taishi | Who, me? O_o |
21:56.04 | DuTempete | but yes, PhotoJim, I was thinking of parlor/parlour |
21:56.10 | DuTempete | no, PhotoJim |
21:56.12 | Sandwichman2448 | kd3 what do you mean? I could spam the talk page, but I will ask here. |
21:56.13 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: the only thing separating you from me is ops you know ;) |
21:56.27 | kd3 | we don't follow the same rules that wikipedia does |
21:56.29 | winkiller | Jim is a girl? |
21:56.34 | DuTempete | oh? what makes you say that? |
21:56.40 | kd3 | yes, we're an encyclopedia, but we're not going to have a list of profanity for no good reason |
21:56.41 | Taishi | I almost forgot why we were e ven talking about this lmao |
21:56.48 | Sandwichman2448 | I see. |
21:56.48 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: you have signs of a razor wit. I can see it. |
21:56.55 | DuTempete | I dunno, winkiller, are you a girl, PhotoJim ? |
21:57.04 | PhotoJim | No, I'm not a girl. Sex isn't all that important on irc. |
21:57.12 | winkiller | oh it is |
21:57.16 | DuTempete | You're in the wrong channel if you think that. |
21:57.20 | DuTempete | Topic ^^ |
21:57.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, that you for clearing that up. |
21:57.24 | Taishi | Depends on what sexc you mean anad what channel lmao |
21:57.28 | Miyari | Wait I'm a girl, DuTempete. |
21:57.28 | Taishi | *sex -c |
21:57.34 | DuTempete | Yay! |
21:57.36 | Miyari | That means the only thing separating US is the Op! |
21:57.44 | Miyari | <3<3 |
21:57.48 | DuTempete | hehe |
21:57.55 | PhotoJim | Maybe I should have lied and said I was a girl. Sniff. |
21:58.04 | DuTempete | and a country border... |
21:58.05 | Taishi | Op seperates t he US? :P lol j/k |
21:58.08 | Dotted | wouldnt that technically be cheating? or did i misss something :P? |
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21:58.24 | winkiller | oy, Miyari |
21:58.31 | Miyari | oy, me :( |
21:58.43 | Taishi | Ok thats disturbing |
21:58.47 | winkiller | PhotoJim: see, I'd never do that otherwise. It makes a difference |
21:58.56 | Corgan | oh god it's Miyari |
21:59.02 | winkiller | damn jan'alai |
21:59.10 | Miyari | Wut level do I get execute! :) |
21:59.10 | DuTempete | Not ifyou don't tell Kirkburn, Dotted. |
21:59.15 | winkiller | 2 rogues, 1 dps warr, bear and tankadin - less aoe |
21:59.17 | Corgan | lol miyari |
21:59.17 | Miyari | What if I tell Kirkburn! |
21:59.22 | PhotoJim | winkiller: duly noted :) |
21:59.27 | Corgan | L2Wowhead |
21:59.31 | DuTempete | Then it's still not cheating. Then it would be an invitation :P |
21:59.36 | Miyari | Don't try to use that on me! |
21:59.36 | Dotted | seems like i dont have to DuTempete since you highlighted him :P |
21:59.53 | Taishi | Erm.. get bear to change to caster, cast thorns, change back to bear, tank vala, AoE :P lol |
22:00.04 | DuTempete | lol Dotted he isn't online :P |
22:00.10 | DuTempete | He's dusting his laptop off atm. :P |
22:00.11 | Dotted | doh |
22:00.11 | winkiller | amount of melee, adds rape us |
22:00.29 | Dotted | so what you really are saying DuTempete is that you are sort of like a wiki, where everyone can.... |
22:00.37 | winkiller | LOL |
22:00.45 | Dotted | :P |
22:00.48 | Taishi | O_o; |
22:00.57 | PhotoJim | It's official. #wowwiki is out of control. |
22:01.01 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Dotted!n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net] by DuTempete (not funny) |
22:01.05 | Taishi | lol my bad |
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22:01.07 | Dotted | awww |
22:01.10 | Miyari | Help Corgan, I hit Battle Shout and PallyPower came up! |
22:01.29 | Dotted | i take it im a vandal then and got blocked - DuTempete? |
22:01.33 | Dotted | : |
22:01.35 | Dotted | ' |
22:01.36 | Dotted | ( |
22:01.56 | DuTempete | Dotted, if I'm a wiki, then I'm a girls and Kirkburn only wiki. :P |
22:02.11 | Taishi | I think I might level a druid and wait til tomorrow to see if any warlock shows up that I could drag along for the crazy ride lol |
22:02.12 | Gourra | then it means we're all girls |
22:02.23 | DuTempete | and Kirkburn is the lead admin |
22:02.42 | Dotted | damn, im screwed then DuTempete :( |
22:02.49 | DuTempete | No, you aren't. |
22:02.50 | Taishi | I should get a whole party of hunters to get the lynx and start a fad lmao |
22:02.53 | *** part/#wowwiki sannse (n=me@wikia/pdpc.active.sannse) |
22:03.03 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: are you and Kirkburn a set? |
22:03.09 | DuTempete | PhotoJim, yes :P |
22:03.17 | PhotoJim | :) |
22:03.30 | Miyari | Not if I can steal you away :( |
22:03.38 | DuTempete | Are you going to try, Miyari ? |
22:03.46 | Miyari | Try? Hon, I shall succeed. |
22:03.58 | Miyari | Then we can set up Kirkburn with Skosiris. |
22:04.01 | Miyari | PROBLEM SOLVED. |
22:04.05 | PhotoJim | This sounds complex. |
22:04.11 | winkiller | and no one thinks of poor Corgan |
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22:04.18 | DuTempete | Why can't you just sahre me with Kirkburn? |
22:04.18 | Miyari | Corgan's got his monkey. |
22:04.27 | winkiller | another monkey? |
22:04.40 | DuTempete | Corgan does Zimbabwe? |
22:04.49 | Gourra | cake? |
22:04.50 | Taishi | lmao.. |
22:05.17 | Taishi | I swear, people who make these emails really need to be a bit more less obvious and more original |
22:05.20 | Miyari | pastries! |
22:05.30 | Gourra | pasties! |
22:05.33 | DuTempete | What about your pasties? |
22:05.36 | winkiller | panties! |
22:05.48 | Gourra | parties! |
22:05.49 | Taishi | I got invited to some random site called mrbadmouth.net that is apparently filled with unheard of games |
22:05.58 | Taishi | Then in the second email it asks me to "please forward it" |
22:06.06 | Taishi | And it was emailed to over 30 odd emails |
22:06.08 | Taishi | Riiiight |
22:06.13 | Taishi | As IF I'd fall for tat |
22:06.15 | Taishi | *that |
22:06.58 | Dotted | but i called you a wiki DuTempete, surely Kirkburn wont approve of my existence then :( |
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22:07.13 | DuTempete | you missed the pun :P |
22:07.20 | DuTempete | Not my fault your English sucks. |
22:07.32 | Dotted | :oĻ |
22:07.37 | Taishi | Oh and its apparently some dumb bitch I haven't heard from in years |
22:07.45 | Taishi | I just recognised her email address |
22:08.16 | Taishi | Probably some fake site or virus >_> |
22:08.24 | PhotoJim | oh sure. it's okay if she puns. not ok if I pun. ;) |
22:08.42 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
22:08.42 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
22:08.47 | Dotted | hey Kirkburn |
22:08.51 | Taishi | Who puns? |
22:08.52 | Dotted | DuTempete is a wiki |
22:08.55 | Gourra | ey Kirkburn |
22:09.06 | DuTempete | lol |
22:09.08 | Kirkburn | :O |
22:09.11 | PhotoJim | do we need to found #dutempetewiki now? |
22:09.23 | DuTempete | but you're the lead admin, Kirkburn :P |
22:09.34 | Kirkburn | Natch ;) |
22:09.44 | Taishi | Photo, don't tempt em lol |
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22:10.02 | Dotted | i dont think you understand the type of wiki she is Kirkburn |
22:10.24 | PhotoJim | She's the kind of wiki that requires a copious vocabulary and exceptional language skills. |
22:10.34 | DuTempete | I make one comment about cybering Miyari , and this is what happens. |
22:10.41 | Dotted | did i break my roll already DuTempete :(? |
22:10.42 | DuTempete | Damn skippy, PhotoJim |
22:11.57 | Taishi|AFK | brb |
22:13.15 | PhotoJim | ooh. she hugged a Canadian. This needs to be documented! |
22:13.42 | Gourra | I blame canadaaaa |
22:13.49 | DuTempete | Actually, I hug Canadian's all the time. My best friend is from Canadia :P |
22:13.58 | DuTempete | Then there's Miyari and Skosiris... |
22:14.35 | PhotoJim | Everything is our fault. We have our fingers in everything, you know. |
22:14.50 | DuTempete | riiiiiiight |
22:15.05 | PhotoJim | Oh, I thought you typed "bug". |
22:15.09 | PhotoJim | Hug... that's different. |
22:15.11 | Gourra | I don't want to know where your fingers have been |
22:15.23 | PhotoJim | Alright. We are only responsible for some things. Like insulin. and Mike Vander Jagt. |
22:15.39 | Keolah | It baffles me as to how morons get "stuck" at level 30 and can't figure out how to get any higher... |
22:15.52 | Keolah | It also baffles me how my friends found a guild full of such morons that they won't stop complaining about htem. ;p |
22:16.23 | winkiller | woo, jana'lai down |
22:16.23 | PhotoJim | I have to admit that I've not gotten to 30 yet (only been playing a few weeks), but it doesn't strike me that it would be all that difficult to find some quests to work on somewhere. |
22:16.28 | Gourra | grats winkiller |
22:16.41 | winkiller | ty |
22:16.54 | winkiller | 2nd time, hopefully we get hex lord this week |
22:17.18 | Keolah | There's _no_ shortage of quests at level 30.. or for that matter, anywhere from 1 to 50-ish, and even then you can get from 50 to 60 with no problem even avoiding the plaguelands ;p |
22:17.29 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net] by DuTempete (DuTempete) |
22:17.34 | Gourra | :O |
22:17.42 | Keolah | With the requirements decreased, I've got chars in Outland who never set foot in th Plaguelands ;p |
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22:17.56 | DuTempete | Sadly, that had a valid purpose. :P |
22:17.56 | Keolah | (My bf finds the place depressing and doesn't want to quest there if he can help it) |
22:18.13 | DuTempete | I'm not fond of th eplaguelands either, Keolah. |
22:18.14 | winkiller | STV is depressing also |
22:18.17 | winkiller | and Dustwallow |
22:18.20 | PhotoJim | Hmm. I'll have to check it out and see what I think. |
22:18.22 | winkiller | and especially barrens |
22:18.22 | DuTempete | I *hate* winkiller |
22:18.24 | Keolah | My highest level char is now 67, who, I've gotten over my chronic altitis long enough to try to get to 70 ;p |
22:18.36 | DuTempete | err I meant STV! |
22:18.40 | Gourra | haha |
22:18.40 | PhotoJim | altitis. I've already fallen victim to that :) |
22:18.43 | DuTempete | esp on a pvp server it's horrid |
22:18.59 | Gourra | I leveled my first (and only) hunter on a pvp server |
22:19.03 | PhotoJim | Barrens is depressing, I admit that. I've been there. |
22:19.09 | Keolah | Yeah, I don't play pvp, and have only ever gotten killed by another player due to, uh, snake trap;p |
22:19.11 | DuTempete | psh, hunter's do really well in pvp |
22:19.23 | Gourra | I haven't said that DuTempete :) |
22:19.23 | PhotoJim | I have an occasional alt on a pvp server. fun to play occasionally. |
22:19.23 | Keolah | The Barrens is a positively lush and scenic place compared to Eastern Plaguelands. |
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22:19.38 | TecnoBrat | DuTempete, do it again! |
22:19.44 | Gourra | well it was fine before BC, farming furbolgs |
22:19.46 | DuTempete | do what again TecnoBrat ? |
22:19.53 | TecnoBrat | <-- DuTempete has kicked Kirkburn from #wowwiki (DuTempete) |
22:19.58 | DuTempete | lol |
22:19.58 | Gourra | but I had to server transfer because I was getting ganked by rogues all the time |
22:20.06 | Kirkburn | lulz, I got disconnected TecnoBrat :P |
22:20.08 | DuTempete | I only did that to help Kirkburn get logged back in :P |
22:20.14 | Gourra | mhm :P |
22:20.29 | TecnoBrat | unfortunately that doesn't really change anything :P |
22:20.31 | PhotoJim | so she claims :) |
22:20.45 | Keolah | Rogues are annoying on pve too, yeesh. It's _quite_ irritating to be fighting past some mobs to get to a vein or a named guy you got a quest to kill, only to get there and find a rogue has snuck past and gotten here first ;p |
22:21.14 | Gourra | I've never experienced that, fortunately |
22:21.14 | Keolah | Okay, so more irritating is fighting past some mobs to get to a vein, and then while you're mining it, a level 70 on a flying mount swoops down and just starts mining it ... while you're still trying to mine it. |
22:21.24 | Taishi|AFK | Ok I'm back but I think I might go back to do some more leveling |
22:21.30 | Keolah | I was like, wtf, screw you, that was _my_ adamantite! |
22:21.34 | Taishi | Its be nice talking to you guys |
22:21.41 | Gourra | bai Taishi |
22:21.42 | Taishi | Eh? |
22:21.46 | Taishi | My name is registered? |
22:22.09 | Gourra | huh? |
22:22.10 | Taishi | Hmm, not to me or not my usual password O_o |
22:22.16 | PhotoJim | Uh oh. |
22:22.22 | Gourra | Oh uh. |
22:22.23 | Taishi | I changed it back to Taishi and NS told me its registered |
22:22.32 | Taishi | Didnn't state that when I logged in though |
22:22.35 | Taishi | Thats kinda odd |
22:22.52 | Taishi | Someone stolez my namezes! |
22:22.53 | Taishi | lol |
22:23.03 | Taishi | Oh well |
22:23.15 | Taishi | Well, toodles for now anyway |
22:23.21 | Gourra | bai |
22:23.22 | PhotoJim | ciao Taishi. |
22:23.38 | PhotoJim | Good incentive to register your nicks here :) |
22:23.55 | Keolah | Not when somebody else registered it a year ago, heh. |
22:24.19 | PhotoJim | True. |
22:24.41 | PhotoJim | Good incentive to use nicknames with no vowels, like Xbkpclln |
22:24.48 | Keolah | heh |
22:25.00 | PhotoJim | Heh, my next alt should have one of those impossible-to-pronounce Welsh names. |
22:25.36 | Keolah | What, like, Llwmwnydd or something? :p |
22:25.47 | equiraptor | You'd never be told you were doing something wrong in voice chat... |
22:26.23 | PhotoJim | Yes, that's a good example. |
22:26.31 | PhotoJim | People mispronounce names on voice chat anyway. |
22:26.44 | PhotoJim | "Artelia" is "Artela". "Cadmon" is "Cadnon". |
22:27.18 | Gourra | and people sometime pronounce "Ioladin" as "Loladin"..I don't get it. |
22:27.18 | Keolah | My bf pronounces Sepulcher "seh-PULCH-er"... heh. |
22:27.21 | equiraptor | I'm just bored and pretending I'm funny. :-P |
22:27.27 | PhotoJim | Besides, the riff raff WoWers would leave you alone if they couldn't say your name ;) |
22:27.30 | Gourra | Keolah: I do that too. :/ |
22:27.32 | Keolah | I only even know the word due to studying Edgar Allan Poe in high school English class... :S |
22:27.34 | PhotoJim | that's a common spelling. |
22:27.43 | Keolah | But it should be SEH-pul-kur! |
22:27.44 | PhotoJim | You use SEH-pul-ker? |
22:27.51 | Keolah | Indeed ;p |
22:27.55 | Kirkburn | Keolah, exactly |
22:28.08 | PhotoJim | maybe you need a new bf :) |
22:28.21 | Gourra | well, I'm not native to english, and never heard of the word before WoW |
22:28.27 | PhotoJim | Next time he says it wrong, just say "Nevermore!" |
22:28.29 | Keolah | lol |
22:28.38 | PhotoJim | Gourra: It's not an everyday word; don't worry. |
22:29.01 | Keolah | yes, its a word you'll only care about when reading old Gothic literature or playing a Forsaken on WoW ;p |
22:29.06 | Gourra | you're too late, I've already cut my wrists. ;_; |
22:29.11 | Keolah | or raiding the Forsaken, if that's your thing :P |
22:29.28 | Kirkburn | "Sepulchre", btw |
22:29.34 | Gourra | Horde for life |
22:29.44 | PhotoJim | My lowest alt is a Horde. |
22:29.51 | Kirkburn | That's the altenative spelling |
22:30.00 | Gourra | ..but occasionally my dwarf hunter when I'm bored of horde |
22:30.43 | Keolah | I tend to go back and forth. I've got 60+ chars on both sides, heh. |
22:30.55 | PhotoJim | That's a lot of characters. |
22:30.58 | PhotoJim | I only have four so far. |
22:31.04 | Keolah | Level 60, not 60 characters :P |
22:31.08 | PhotoJim | Oh. :) |
22:31.11 | PhotoJim | That makes more sense. |
22:31.13 | Gourra | I read as level 60 too :P |
22:31.13 | Keolah | hehe |
22:31.24 | Keolah | I only have 22 chars total :p |
22:31.31 | Keolah | Most of them below level 20, heh. |
22:31.34 | Gourra | my highest alliance chars would be 65, 36, 17 and 12 |
22:31.39 | PhotoJim | My highest is 22nd. I can only play 2-3 times a week or so. |
22:32.13 | Gourra | I got 5 level 60+ chars, soon 6 |
22:32.21 | PhotoJim | Cool. |
22:32.26 | Gourra | loads of deleted alts though :P |
22:32.28 | PhotoJim | I'm a ways away from having a 60. |
22:32.36 | Gourra | I've been around a whiel. |
22:32.38 | Keolah | It doesn't take too long to level up once you get going. |
22:32.43 | Gourra | s/whiel/while/ |
22:33.23 | PhotoJim | I only started at Christmas. |
22:33.24 | Keolah | My level 60-ish chars might only have 7-8 days of actual playing time, including time spent fishing, farming, whatnot. |
22:33.33 | PhotoJim | That's not very much. |
22:34.14 | Keolah | Yeah, since they lowered the requirements to get to level 60, it goes by pretty fast. |
22:34.32 | PhotoJim | Yes, that was fortuitous timing. |
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22:35.46 | PhotoJim | I'll get there. Just not tomorrow. |
22:36.14 | Keolah | hehe |
22:37.31 | PhotoJim | how long have you played? |
22:37.37 | Keolah | I want to be level 70... So i can fly! |
22:37.51 | Keolah | Eh, since around, August? |
22:38.01 | Keolah | My bf got me a subscription for my birthday :D |
22:38.24 | PhotoJim | nice of him :) |
22:38.25 | Keolah | Which was in August.. so it must have been August, logically! |
22:38.31 | PhotoJim | Yes. August. |
22:38.36 | PhotoJim | We have August in Canada too. |
22:38.38 | PhotoJim | It's in ... August. |
22:38.42 | Keolah | lol |
22:38.50 | PhotoJim | It's also my birth month. |
22:38.53 | Keolah | In Oregon we have two seasons, rain and August. |
22:38.58 | Gourra | haha |
22:39.32 | Kirkburn | Keolah, what's August like? "Extra rain"? |
22:39.35 | PhotoJim | In Saskatchewan we have two seasons, winter and construction season. |
22:39.50 | PhotoJim | I was going to say it didn't rain when I was there, but that was in an August. |
22:40.16 | Keolah | Generally, it doesn't rain in August, it just gets hot and makes everyone go "OH MY GOD ITS HOT AND I DON"T HAVE AC!" |
22:40.56 | Keolah | So they put out "extreme weather advisories" when it gets to like 95 F ;p |
22:41.13 | PhotoJim | We whine like that too, because the little heat we do get can be oppressive, but not a lot of people get air conditioning for the dozen or two days a year that you need it here. |
22:41.14 | Keolah | Bah. I NEED MORE THORIUM! |
22:41.30 | PhotoJim | 95 would be about 35 |
22:41.36 | PhotoJim | 98.6 is 37.1 |
22:41.48 | Keolah | I can convert F to C in my sleep. |
22:41.59 | PhotoJim | I can't do it precisely but I can do it closely enough. |
22:42.15 | Keolah | Seriously, I once had this dream where it was really hot, and I said "Man, it's hot, it must be a hundred degrees out here" then I saw a thermometer in the dream and it said 38 degrees. |
22:42.22 | Gourra | haha |
22:42.55 | Gourra | I've never just bothered to memorize the formula |
22:43.18 | PhotoJim | C = (F-32) * 5/9 |
22:43.26 | Gourra | I know. |
22:43.36 | Keolah | Personally, I think Celcius makes far more sense, but I live in a backwards country ;) |
22:43.41 | Gourra | ;P |
22:43.42 | PhotoJim | Keolah: that's an odd dream. :) |
22:43.55 | PhotoJim | I prefer metric, but living in Canada would do that. |
22:44.21 | Gourra | sweden. \o/ |
22:45.09 | Keolah | I don't feel like farming thorium at the moment. I hate raising blacksmithing. |
22:45.17 | PhotoJim | I have Finnish winter tires. That's as close to Sweden as I can get. :) |
22:45.52 | Keolah | (Especially when the place I've had the best luck getting it is Eastern Plaguelands, and even just going there to farm thorium makes me depressed ;p) |
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22:46.25 | Keolah | I like Nagrand. It's quite scenic. |
22:46.52 | Gourra | it reminds me of Mulgore. that's what makes it so great |
22:46.56 | Keolah | Nagrand is also an excellent reason to get an epic mount :P |
22:47.01 | Gourra | so much change from the depressing terokkar forest |
22:47.05 | PhotoJim | I'm 18 levels away from having a mount :) |
22:48.32 | Keolah | We were leveling in Nagrand the other day, and my bf said "I think we control Halaa at the moment" and I replied "Alliance has controlled Halaa since we got into Nagrand. In fact, Alliance has controlled every single pvp objective in Outland ever since we got out here." |
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22:49.32 | pcj | wb dutempete |
22:49.57 | DuTempete | ty pcj... odd loss of connection to the intarwebz. Had to reset my modem and router |
22:50.25 | Keolah | Halaa was always so quiet and peaceful... |
22:50.53 | PhotoJim | My router used to do that. I turned it into a boring WiFi access point and built a Linux-based router that's rock steady now. |
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22:54.23 | PhotoJim | alright, I must be off. bbl. |
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23:08.16 | Dotted | hmm does a Half-tauren exist in wow lore? |
23:10.18 | pcj | what's the other half |
23:10.23 | pcj | wouldn't that be bestiality |
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23:11.54 | DuTempete | Dotted, wouldn't that then just be 1/4 cow? |
23:12.28 | Dotted | so tauren is already a half race :o? |
23:17.57 | Gourra | what creature must've mated with the cows then? |
23:18.04 | Gourra | trolls? |
23:18.07 | Gourra | dwarves? |
23:18.09 | Gourra | <PROTECTED> |
23:18.11 | pcj | murlocs |
23:18.25 | Gourra | have they been around that long? |
23:19.52 | Dotted | gnomes |
23:21.34 | foxlit | murloc-cows are biding their time |
23:21.40 | foxlit | Hidden underwater, controlling the naga |
23:22.09 | foxlit | until one day, due to global azerothian warming (damn that lich king on the icecaps, necromancy is exothermic!), the sea levels rise and flood ironforge |
23:22.17 | foxlit | Then the murloc-cows will take over the world. |
23:22.53 | foxlit | And if any of that comes up on quotes, I'm sure things would be pretty weird :/ |
23:23.33 | Gourra | ya know, I could make "Murloc-cow" on the wiki, but then admins with no sense of humor would {{sd}} it |
23:24.00 | Gourra | and if they had sense of humor they would remove it anyway :P |
23:24.04 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT ? |
23:24.08 | DuTempete | Those would be Fandy and Baggins |
23:24.16 | foxlit | Start it in userspace, anyway |
23:25.19 | Kirkburn | We have a {{silly}} template, but it's gotta be very good, or very well known :) |
23:25.36 | pcj | Or Kirkburn's user page |
23:25.38 | DuTempete | But it ought to be put waaaaaaaay on the bottom of the page :P |
23:25.39 | Kirkburn | [[Tauren rogue]] :P |
23:25.39 | [NewsBot] | Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tauren_rogue |
23:25.42 | DuTempete | There ya go :P |
23:25.45 | foxlit | I dislike the silly template |
23:25.50 | foxlit | It's such a bloody spoiler |
23:25.56 | pcj | I dislike the fanfic template |
23:26.01 | Kirkburn | foxlit, do you find it .... silly? |
23:26.03 | foxlit | and someone retagged [[Introducing the Tinfoil Hat]] with it |
23:26.07 | Dotted | hmm since when have winterfall furbolgs been buffed with firewater? |
23:26.18 | DuTempete | how is that one silly? |
23:26.26 | Dotted | tesat |
23:26.26 | DuTempete | That was a Blizz April Fools joke... |
23:26.44 | kd3 | doted; always? |
23:26.50 | foxlit | (and people tagged my lovely adaptation of that with {{wikify}} |
23:26.51 | Kirkburn | Dotted, uh ... |
23:26.54 | DuTempete | We're being quite serious on the wiki about how silly Blizzard is |
23:26.57 | foxlit | THOSE INFIDELS! |
23:27.04 | kd3 | it's just visible now that buffs are shown by default |
23:27.07 | Dotted | well it havent shown before in the UI that is |
23:27.28 | Dotted | its many years ago i used standard UI :/ |
23:27.43 | foxlit | psst |
23:27.44 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Detect_Magic#Notes |
23:27.46 | foxlit | I wrote an addon |
23:28.01 | Dotted | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
23:28.35 | Dotted | WTB Detect Loot spell |
23:28.36 | foxlit | Among other things, it transforms [Tinfoil hat] into an actual [Tinfoil Hat] link |
23:28.53 | foxlit | tooltip and everything |
23:30.47 | foxlit | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/07/2015251&from=rss |
23:30.51 | foxlit | could I finally get a PS3? |
23:30.58 | Dotted | no |
23:31.24 | foxlit | But they're awesome |
23:31.39 | foxlit | with the possible exception of Fable; PS3 is the only console with appealing games |
23:32.40 | Dotted | you arent into FPS' then |
23:33.17 | Keolah | I like my games heavy on story and not so much on running around shooting things. |
23:33.35 | foxlit | I play FPSes on a PC |
23:33.54 | foxlit | Seems far more appealing |
23:33.57 | Keolah | Of course, the FPS's these days tend to have far more story than they used to... |
23:33.59 | Dotted | well the console is the work of the devil |
23:34.05 | Keolah | Of course, _any_ story would be more than they used to. |
23:38.59 | Dotted | test |
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23:40.23 | Dotted | ::: Now playing: ::: MONORAL - kiri ::: |
23:54.51 | pcj | kd3 / kirkburn: shouldn't the undocumented changes at the bottom of http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.7 be split off like on other patch pages |
23:56.05 | Kirkburn | Hmm, it's not that long |
23:57.45 | Dotted | whos the hardest hitting creature in wow? |
23:58.06 | Dotted | that accessible solo |
23:58.10 | kd3 | I got crit by gruul for 41k last night, that's my highest |
23:58.20 | kd3 | uh, solo? one of the world raid bosses, I guess |
23:58.29 | Dotted | hmm |
23:58.44 | Dotted | well i got stealth :p |
23:58.56 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WTS: 5v5, decent rating, misspelled name - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/07/wts-5v5-decent-rating-misspelled-name/ |