| 00:05.50 | Keolah | Startling revelation of the moment: Boars make good pets. |
| 00:22.16 | Gourra | why doesn't |type= in npcbox work properly? |
| 00:22.36 | Gourra | the help article says it will show the type in brackets after |race=, but for me it's after the level |
| 00:22.55 | Gourra | I have to use |creature= to make it work |
| 00:24.42 | foxlit | {{npcbox}} |
| 00:24.43 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:npcbox |
| 00:25.18 | Gourra | ah, right. was watching at {{mobbox}} |
| 00:26.51 | foxlit | er |
| 00:27.00 | foxlit | It doesn't actually handle type |
| 00:27.17 | foxlit | |{{#if:{{{rare|}}}{{{elite|}}}|type={{{rare|}}} {{{elite|}}}}} |
| 00:27.18 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/} |
| 00:27.32 | foxlit | pass |rare=Rare or |elite=Elite if you want those to appear next to creature level :) |
| 00:28.47 | Gourra | hmm I don't see |rare=Rare in the mob help article.. |
| 00:29.50 | Kaso | |rare=Rare or |elite=Elite ? that seems like an odd design choice |
| 00:30.32 | Kaso | whynot something like unittype=Rare unittype=Elite ? |
| 00:30.47 | foxlit | because |unittype=Rare Elite is also a viable option |
| 00:30.55 | foxlit | Maybe because the person writing didn't know any better |
| 00:31.04 | foxlit | Gourra: what did you actually want, exactly? :) |
| 00:31.39 | Gourra | I just wondered why my {{npcbox}} was broken, it was because I was looking at {{mobbox}} :P |
| 00:31.40 | [NewsBot] | Gourra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:npcbox}}_was_broken,_it_was_because_I_was_looking_at_Template:mobbox |
| 00:31.46 | Gourra | no I didn't. |
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| 00:33.07 | Kaso | hah |
| 00:33.12 | Kaso | nice bug |
| 00:33.51 | foxlit | greed! |
| 00:34.04 | Gourra | pass |
| 00:34.17 | foxlit | Grr, this bugs me |
| 00:34.30 | foxlit | Something is appending junk output to the end of php scripts :( |
| 00:34.39 | foxlit | (evil link: http://www.dancephd.com/ ; treat carefully) |
| 00:35.20 | Gourra | what's wrong with it? |
| 00:35.35 | foxlit | script language=javascript>document.write(unescape('%3c%73%63%72%69 ... |
| 00:35.36 | foxlit | that |
| 00:35.57 | foxlit | I've seen it before, but I can't figure out what's appending it :( |
| 00:36.05 | Gourra | woah |
| 00:37.50 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Spiritual Guidance: Level 1 to 5 on your new Priest - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/03/spiritual-guidance-level-1-to-5-on-your-new-priest/ |
| 00:38.44 | Kaso | You need a guide for the first five levels? |
| 00:38.53 | Kaso | 1)Get quest |
| 00:38.56 | Kaso | 2)kill stuff |
| 00:39.00 | Kaso | 3)Hand in quest |
| 00:39.04 | Kaso | 4)Level 5! |
| 00:39.05 | Olison | wat |
| 00:39.15 | Olison | seriously, 1-5 leveling guide |
| 00:39.24 | Olison | whats wrong with this site |
| 00:39.43 | Kaso | they ran out of stuff to write about 2 years ago |
| 00:40.54 | Gourra | foxlit: have you tried any forum? |
| 00:41.11 | Gourra | all I find on google is that it prevents junk mail and ads |
| 00:41.13 | foxlit | Gourra: yes, no. |
| 00:41.29 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL6OhY4896w Woohoo, ski sunday! |
| 00:41.58 | foxlit | "prevents"? |
| 00:42.22 | foxlit | ah, hah |
| 00:42.31 | foxlit | I still have them blackholed through hosts from the last time |
| 00:49.34 | pcj | are there any epic meta gems |
| 00:51.25 | Kaso | Our survey says: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=3.6&filter=qu=4 |
| 00:51.25 | Kaso | No! |
| 00:52.39 | pcj | Well played |
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| 01:20.24 | foxlit | There we go, nuked it from orbit. |
| 01:28.20 | Kaso | The bug planet? or something less useful |
| 02:12.51 | Kirkburn | http://www.joystiq.com/media/2007/11/animalcrossing.jpg ... wow |
| 02:14.44 | Kaso | whats with the badly aligned patches of white behind the text as if it's be written over |
| 02:19.26 | kd3 | it's translated from korean |
| 02:19.42 | Kaso | Ah |
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| 02:20.16 | Raige | hi guys |
| 02:20.31 | Kaso | hullo |
| 02:21.25 | Raige | is it ok to ask about private wow servers on this channel? |
| 02:21.55 | Kirkburn | nope |
| 02:22.00 | Raige | ok |
| 02:22.03 | Raige | just wondering |
| 02:22.25 | kd3 | "We are an official fan site, obey the ToU!" |
| 02:22.33 | Kirkburn | Um, and ignore my quote :P |
| 02:22.38 | Raige | haha |
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| 02:22.52 | Kaso | i do wonder about the context of that |
| 02:23.47 | Kirkburn | I'm sure it was perfectly reasonable at the tim |
| 02:23.49 | Kirkburn | *time |
| 02:24.15 | Kirkburn | Yay for rocking boats :) |
| 02:24.22 | Sky2042_ | uh... |
| 02:24.38 | Kirkburn | The BB-->Ratchet boat rocks, you have a dirty mind |
| 02:26.01 | Sky2042_ | uh.... |
| 02:26.04 | Kirkburn | Whee, Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe at 32 :P |
| 02:26.12 | Sky2042_ | Kirkburn: you're... weird. |
| 02:26.16 | Kirkburn | Well, almost at 31, but I levelled getting it |
| 02:27.06 | Kaso | You're leveling another warlock? |
| 02:27.42 | Kirkburn | um |
| 02:27.44 | Kirkburn | mebbe |
| 02:29.14 | Sky2042_ | gad, i hate onett. sigh. |
| 02:30.34 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 02:30.52 | Sky2042_ | they're bringing back onett for ssbb |
| 02:30.54 | Sky2042_ | :/ |
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| 03:24.26 | Sky2042_ | !stats |
| 03:27.07 | Kirkburn | !banana |
| 03:31.37 | Kirkburn | gah |
| 03:31.41 | Kirkburn | !wwstats |
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| 03:32.24 | Kirkburn | Sky2042_, ^ |
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| 04:27.28 | Sky2042_ | oh shit. |
| 04:27.31 | Sky2042_ | skeet skeet skeet |
| 04:27.45 | Fisker- | you know that i'll destroy you Sky2042_ |
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| 05:58.01 | pcj | wb dutempete |
| 05:58.08 | Sky2042_ | ^ |
| 05:58.09 | DuTempete | ty pcj |
| 05:58.13 | DuTempete | and Sky2042_ |
| 05:58.30 | DuTempete | I slept through the last half of the game :P |
| 05:59.09 | DuTempete | I wasn't really there for the game though. Had a "lovely" chat with my little sister when she showed up... |
| 05:59.57 | DuTempete | Did you guys watch it? |
| 06:00.09 | Sky2042 | I missed most of it. I went to swim practice at quarter to 2. went and cut my foot open (not a big cut), and got 6 stitches put in me :/ |
| 06:00.19 | pcj | nice |
| 06:00.20 | Sky2042 | (game started at 3:17 pst) |
| 06:00.40 | Sky2042 | so, i didn't get home till about 6. about the end of the 3rd. |
| 06:01.09 | Keolah | You slept through Outland? |
| 06:01.20 | pcj | super bowl |
| 06:01.33 | Keolah | How much HP does that heal? |
| 06:01.49 | pcj | any recent dreams about wow? |
| 06:02.03 | Keolah | I was dreaming I was mining "Tera Silver Deposit" which summoned hostile elementals when I mined it. |
| 06:02.17 | pcj | indeed |
| 06:02.29 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 06:02.49 | Sky2042 | Keolah: might want to think about getting your head checked by someone qualified >.> |
| 06:03.36 | Keolah | I had better not mention that to anyone that works for Blizzard, lest they get any ideas. |
| 06:03.36 | Sky2042 | (and for a moment, thought you were Kirkburn, though I know he's asleep) |
| 06:04.39 | Sky2042 | looool |
| 06:04.50 | Sky2042 | (just got that...) |
| 06:06.45 | DuTempete | wow, sounds like an exciting evening Sky2042 |
| 06:07.02 | Sky2042 | oh yes. quite. |
| 06:07.05 | Sky2042 | xD |
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| 06:07.53 | DuTempete | howdy Mike-N-Go |
| 06:08.08 | Mike-N-Go | DuTempete: Greetings. |
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| 08:58.16 | Fisker- | about time though |
| 08:58.47 | Fisker- | Copy protections arel ame |
| 08:58.49 | Fisker- | lame* |
| 08:59.08 | Fisker- | Would be awesome if SC2 didn't need a CD/DVD atleast for b.net |
| 08:59.14 | Fisker- | out of the box of course |
| 09:03.09 | Kalroth | uh, just visit gamecopyworld :p |
| 09:09.49 | Fisker- | borderline illegal retard |
| 09:09.50 | Fisker- | also |
| 09:09.52 | Fisker- | probably bannable |
| 09:11.46 | Kalroth | uh |
| 09:11.51 | Kalroth | No it's not illegal |
| 09:12.01 | Kalroth | Anyone who says so is a retard |
| 09:16.23 | Fisker- | Kalroth i said borderline |
| 09:16.37 | Fisker- | in any case it is most likely against any EULA or ToS |
| 09:16.43 | Fisker- | and then |
| 09:16.45 | Fisker- | BOOM HEADSHOT |
| 09:16.48 | Fisker- | account b& |
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| 09:50.17 | Zarazo_wk | hi |
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| 12:51.03 | Kaso | ~wwlogs |
| 12:51.06 | infobot | You are probably looking for http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowwiki/ |
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| 13:09.32 | Dotted | hi Fisker- |
| 13:09.42 | Dotted | pirate bay is getting censored |
| 13:10.59 | Fisker- | awsum? |
| 13:13.11 | Fisker- | nice |
| 13:13.20 | Fisker- | på et eller andet tidspunkt må vi lave et statskup |
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| 13:17.19 | Kirkburn | ugh, watching a video about an automatic shotgun. Sickening. |
| 13:18.08 | Fisker- | old |
| 13:18.13 | Fisker- | Kirkburn though |
| 13:18.21 | Fisker- | i need to invest in that shotgun :o |
| 13:18.28 | Fisker- | we have to save our country |
| 13:18.29 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 13:19.19 | Dotted | Kirkburn how about Denmark is turning into the new China. Even more sickening |
| 13:19.46 | Adys | What'd be a good ftp client for linux? |
| 13:21.02 | Fisker- | ftp |
| 13:21.02 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 13:21.05 | Fisker- | trolling = win |
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| 13:21.18 | Kirkburn | I will never understand how people get interested in things that kill people. So ... civilised. |
| 13:21.32 | Adys | Kirkburn: the AA12? |
| 13:21.45 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 13:21.50 | Adys | its sick |
| 13:21.56 | Adys | seen it yday |
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| 13:22.47 | Kalroth | "Recoilless Auto Shotgun Fires 300 Rounds Per Minute, No Cleaning or Lube Required" |
| 13:22.54 | Kalroth | No cleaning or lube, eh? |
| 13:22.56 | Fisker- | just like your mother :D |
| 13:23.08 | Kalroth | I wonder when they're going to make frenchies that good! |
| 13:23.35 | Adys | When france will stop having 98% of the lube market share |
| 13:23.39 | Dotted | Kirkburn i wanna see |
| 13:23.44 | Fisker- | Dotted lad os ddos'e statens servere |
| 13:23.46 | Adys | jfgi |
| 13:23.50 | Fisker- | eller får arbejde derinde og ligge dem ned |
| 13:23.55 | Dotted | selvf Fisker- |
| 13:23.55 | Fisker- | få* |
| 13:24.02 | Dotted | go id+e |
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| 13:25.23 | Fisker- | go fåck yourself Adys |
| 13:26.42 | Kirkburn | lol, someone's justifications for this is: "without the rifle we would still all be ruled by kings and priests. Learn some history. Seriously, do you think the people of what is now the USA would ever have been able to wage an effective war against England with archers and knights?" |
| 13:27.02 | Kirkburn | Somehow I think it's the US, not England, that's rules by priests these days ... |
| 13:27.12 | Kalroth | ns :) |
| 13:27.19 | Fisker- | so Dotted |
| 13:27.24 | Fisker- | what's your predictions? |
| 13:27.28 | Fisker- | I guess they'll lose the case |
| 13:28.46 | Dotted | huh? |
| 13:28.59 | Fisker- | TPB |
| 13:29.12 | Dotted | what case? |
| 13:29.15 | Dotted | oh |
| 13:29.17 | Dotted | nvm |
| 13:29.22 | Dotted | i think they'll win |
| 13:29.45 | Fisker- | You underestimate the power of corporate greed and state corruption |
| 13:29.45 | Kalroth | TPB will win in either case. If they win, they win. If they lose, they're martyrs. |
| 13:30.45 | Fisker- | i doubt much will happen in the case they lose |
| 13:30.58 | Fisker- | people will be upset, and then that'll be the end of that |
| 13:31.37 | Fisker- | Looking at the case so far i can say pretty certainly that a pretty high level of corruption or incompetence have already been achieved |
| 13:31.48 | Kalroth | The day their servers got confiscated, 4 new mirrors popped up instantly. If they lose the lawsuit then even more will pop up. |
| 13:32.11 | Fisker- | http://www.computerworld.dk/art/44052 <-haha @ 3. kommentar Dotted :P |
| 13:32.20 | Fisker- | Kalroth that's not the point |
| 13:32.30 | Fisker- | If they lose it, it's a loss for freedom itself |
| 13:32.56 | Fisker- | And that will only be regained by reclaiming it |
| 13:33.08 | Dotted | freedom in denmark has already been lost today |
| 13:33.10 | Kalroth | Naw, it's just a minor setback. :) |
| 13:33.20 | Fisker- | I doubt any of us is in the militia business |
| 13:33.57 | Kalroth | There's a business in militia? :) |
| 13:34.05 | Fisker- | of course |
| 13:35.25 | Fisker- | It also came to our attention that it's now possible to buy the documents, from the police!, in the current investigation about The Pirate Bay. But only on paper. And it's not 4000 pages, it 4620 pages. And they cost 6050 SEK for all of them (about 1000 USD). Our view of it? Why not just make a PDF, make a torrent of the PDF and seed it. |
| 13:35.27 | Fisker- | Comedy gold |
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| 14:04.04 | Fisker- | btw Dotted |
| 14:04.25 | Dotted | be quick about it |
| 14:04.30 | Dotted | im watching anime |
| 14:04.32 | Fisker- | thepiratebay should get in the opendns business :O |
| 14:04.41 | Dotted | heh |
| 14:04.51 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: MIT’s Henry Jenkins: Why the Chinese Fear Game Addiction More than Game Violence - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/04/mits-henry-jenkins-why-the-chinese-fear-game-addiction-more-than-game-violence/ |
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| 15:11.11 | Gourra | 'ello Tyyyy1 |
| 15:11.30 | Adys | omg |
| 15:11.31 | Adys | http://www.digg.com/microsoft/Yahoo_may_consider_Google_alliance_over_Microsoft |
| 15:11.34 | Adys | ahaha |
| 15:11.47 | Adys | wow thats got to be humiliating |
| 15:12.13 | Gourra | haha, indeed |
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| 15:16.04 | Gourra | but meh..that would kill the competition of search engines |
| 15:16.34 | Gourra | s/of/between |
| 15:16.44 | Gourra | bah I've forgot the command |
| 15:16.45 | Adys | theres competition? |
| 15:16.47 | Adys | yoU're kidding |
| 15:16.51 | Adys | needs a slash at the end |
| 15:16.56 | Gourra | ah. |
| 15:17.04 | Adys | everyone uses google |
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| 15:17.25 | Adys | the ones using yahoo or live search are either forced to, or just have their head in their ass so much their hate google |
| 15:17.36 | Gourra | :p |
| 15:17.37 | Adys | and if you tell me other search engines exist ill laugh |
| 15:17.46 | Gourra | altavista |
| 15:17.56 | Adys | still exists? |
| 15:18.07 | Adys | i thought dinosaurs ate the company |
| 15:18.23 | Fisker- | Why not hate google? |
| 15:18.29 | Gourra | yup it exists |
| 15:18.35 | Gourra | http://www.altavista.com/ |
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| 15:18.36 | Fisker- | They've basically become what they've always criticised |
| 15:18.41 | Gourra | and it can search for mp3's! |
| 15:18.52 | Fisker- | They basically are what Microsoft were years ago |
| 15:18.54 | Adys | www.g2p.org |
| 15:19.01 | Adys | and not really fisker |
| 15:19.01 | Fisker- | They're the ones being anti-competitive now |
| 15:19.06 | Fisker- | and yes really |
| 15:19.11 | Gourra | ah. |
| 15:19.15 | Adys | if you too didnt have your head up your ass you'd accept some facts |
| 15:19.40 | Adys | go fucking read up on both companies before saying shit like that honestly |
| 15:19.48 | Fisker- | i suggest you do the same |
| 15:19.58 | Adys | i did that a while ago thanks |
| 15:20.12 | Fisker- | they called the addition of the opensearch(or whatever it's called) in IE7 for anti-competitive |
| 15:20.31 | Fisker- | even though it actually enables IE users to use google as their standard search engine |
| 15:20.35 | Fisker- | which it didn't do before |
| 15:20.42 | Adys | go ahead and link where they did |
| 15:20.53 | Fisker- | Google buys out technology just like Microsoft did back in the day |
| 15:21.17 | Adys | yeah because its totally absurd for a company to buy another |
| 15:21.30 | Adys | google still invents alot of technologies by themself |
| 15:21.36 | Adys | unlike ms for that matter |
| 15:21.36 | Fisker- | so does Microsoft |
| 15:21.38 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:21.45 | Adys | what did ms do? |
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| 15:21.52 | Fisker- | I'm not saying what Google is doing is wrong |
| 15:22.05 | Fisker- | But that's what other people is saying, not realizing that Google is doing the exact same thing |
| 15:22.10 | Kirkburn | Ahem, Google has a near monopoly on search |
| 15:22.16 | Adys | No kirk |
| 15:22.32 | Adys | theres difference between monopoly and near-full use |
| 15:22.37 | Adys | no one forces you to use google |
| 15:22.49 | Adys | in a monopoly, you're forced to use or to have something |
| 15:22.54 | Adys | like in windows, you're forced to have IE |
| 15:22.59 | Fisker- | Microsoft didn't have a monopoly |
| 15:23.05 | Fisker- | and you're not forced to use IE |
| 15:23.10 | Adys | you used to be |
| 15:23.13 | Fisker- | you're forced to have Google as well by your logic |
| 15:23.24 | Adys | you're not because they faced patents |
| 15:23.33 | Adys | and you still are forced to have ie |
| 15:23.43 | Fisker- | and the same with google |
| 15:23.45 | Adys | (you can uninstall it sure, if you give it a good week) |
| 15:23.49 | Adys | where? |
| 15:23.50 | Fisker- | You can't get internet without google |
| 15:24.07 | Adys | Where did you read that? that is not true |
| 15:24.21 | Adys | the fact google technologies are awesome dont mean you have to use them |
| 15:24.35 | Adys | google maps is a "monopoly" because theres no alternative |
| 15:24.40 | Adys | not because they are buying the competition |
| 15:24.51 | Fisker- | and the same is still true for Internet Explorer |
| 15:24.51 | Adys | thats an example between others |
| 15:24.57 | Fisker- | And there are alternatives to google maps btw |
| 15:25.05 | Adys | decent alternatives. |
| 15:25.23 | Fisker- | http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/01/technology/01google.html?ex=1304136000&en=69417a0bdae611a3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss |
| 15:25.26 | Adys | And Im sorry but when other browsers started being popular, MS made it harder to switch |
| 15:25.42 | Adys | yeah, i said DECENT alternatives |
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| 15:25.56 | Fisker- | that's not what the link is about |
| 15:26.08 | Adys | give me a min then |
| 15:26.10 | Kirkburn | (sorry, trying to sort something out) |
| 15:26.24 | Fisker- | That's the link where Google tells the DoJ that IE7 is anti-competitive because they had msn in the search provider |
| 15:26.34 | Fisker- | All in all it's a bunch of bull |
| 15:26.59 | Fisker- | People are trying to diss Microsoft because they bundle their products, but anyone else gets off the hook without problems |
| 15:27.20 | Adys | they said ms is anticompetitive because the plan was not being able to switch search providers |
| 15:27.28 | Fisker- | it is |
| 15:27.36 | Adys | the plan was not to |
| 15:27.40 | Adys | i know it is |
| 15:27.59 | Adys | whether a google hater or a ms lover twitches the word in the articles i couldnt care more, whats true stays true, ms IS anticompetitive thats nothing new |
| 15:28.02 | Fisker- | When that statement was made Google was in the default list of search providers |
| 15:28.15 | Fisker- | Google is just as much anticompetitive as microsoft is |
| 15:28.39 | Adys | boy you got it bad. |
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| 15:29.05 | Adys | oh shut up |
| 15:29.05 | Fisker- | Infact i don't remember any beta where IE7 didn't have that opensearch(or whatever it's called) engine |
| 15:29.13 | sacarasc | monotheistic religions are anticompetitive because they only have 1 god |
| 15:29.46 | Adys | fisker, the news itself is not accurate |
| 15:30.14 | Fisker- | Yeah the NY Times are obviously working with Microsoft to bring down google!11 |
| 15:30.24 | Adys | dumb |
| 15:30.37 | Adys | google did whine about microsoft wanting to integrate an engine in ie that didnt let you switch search providers without going tremendously into the settings |
| 15:31.02 | Fisker- | That's the one they always had |
| 15:31.05 | Fisker- | you know before IE7 |
| 15:31.07 | Adys | this never happened because ms had a moment of brightness in the end, and the story started being known. |
| 15:31.08 | Fisker- | so that doesn't make sense |
| 15:31.42 | Adys | Before IE7 you could perfectly change the search provider in preferences |
| 15:31.47 | Adys | almost same as firefox for that matter |
| 15:31.56 | Fisker- | no you couldn't |
| 15:32.02 | Adys | Then how did I. |
| 15:32.03 | Fisker- | You could search, or not at all |
| 15:32.07 | Fisker- | Registry hack |
| 15:32.14 | Adys | I never touched the reg :/ |
| 15:32.18 | Kirkburn | Uh, yeah, you could change the search provider in XP |
| 15:32.25 | Fisker- | then you had something else to do with it |
| 15:32.41 | Adys | lol |
| 15:33.10 | Adys | Just keep loving microsoft if you want, they're going to need it quite alot in the coming months. cba to argue over it |
| 15:33.35 | Fisker- | http://www.google.com/options/defaults.html |
| 15:33.43 | Kirkburn | I think it's more than MS gets a rough deal as opposed to certain companies |
| 15:33.48 | Fisker- | Funny how Google wants you to run a registry hack if you could change it in the preferences |
| 15:33.49 | Kirkburn | *that |
| 15:33.49 | Fisker- | FUNNY |
| 15:34.25 | Fisker- | it was never possible to change search providers pre-7.0 |
| 15:34.27 | Fisker- | That's a fact |
| 15:34.31 | Adys | dude how old is this article |
| 15:34.31 | Fisker- | Google confirms it |
| 15:34.36 | Adys | netscape 4 is not new |
| 15:34.47 | Kirkburn | I could have sworn there was an easier way to change providers previous to IE7 |
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| 15:35.36 | Adys | yes because this is before xp |
| 15:35.48 | Fisker- | the operating system shouldn't matter |
| 15:35.51 | Kirkburn | If Google tries to get a slice of Yahoo action (which there's rumours of), someone will have to eat their words :P |
| 15:35.52 | Adys | "For Windows: Download this file to make Google the default search engine for Internet Explorer versions 4.0 - 6.0." |
| 15:36.06 | Adys | Kirkburn: http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0362915520080204 |
| 15:36.15 | Kirkburn | I did say rumours of :P |
| 15:36.16 | Fisker- | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307980 |
| 15:36.19 | Fisker- | i'm guessing it's that |
| 15:37.16 | Fisker- | In any case IE7 was a step forward in a more open and competitive market, not a step backwards from IE6, and it was never intended to be like that either |
| 15:37.25 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, indeed, that's the one |
| 15:37.27 | Fisker- | Atleast not with the post-Vista alpha's |
| 15:37.44 | Fisker- | I don't remember if the Vista IE 6.5 had open search |
| 15:38.04 | Kirkburn | nah |
| 15:38.14 | Kirkburn | Wait, Vista IE6.5? |
| 15:38.17 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:38.26 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 15:38.40 | Adys | beta shit |
| 15:38.41 | Fisker- | it was 6.5 in the old alpha/beta builds |
| 15:38.57 | Kirkburn | Hardly relevant though |
| 15:39.00 | Adys | i dont give beta credits for stuff, be it good or bad |
| 15:39.57 | Kirkburn | The reason IE7 came set to default to Live Search was because it had to be set to something, and having a forced options screen on first load is icky (besides the whole, who gets to be shown thing) |
| 15:40.28 | Adys | its MS's problem to make something default or not |
| 15:40.38 | Adys | not gonna complain about them wanting to make money over it |
| 15:41.00 | Kirkburn | I think it points you to the Add Search Providers place though which doesn't give live search prominence |
| 15:41.02 | Adys | now, forcing into one single option or company is monopolistic |
| 15:42.08 | Kirkburn | Which is why since XP SP2 you can change all that stuff |
| 15:42.16 | Adys | yep |
| 15:42.17 | Dotted | you can :o? |
| 15:42.33 | Kirkburn | Default Programs, Dotted |
| 15:42.42 | Dotted | ah that onr |
| 15:43.05 | Adys | which doesnt really mean IE doesnt get added back as default once in a while |
| 15:43.20 | Fisker- | That was SP1 :P |
| 15:43.43 | Fisker- | And IE doesn't automatically go back once in a while |
| 15:43.48 | Adys | sure it does |
| 15:43.53 | Adys | go try it by yourself |
| 15:44.02 | Dotted | IE just needs to be removeable |
| 15:44.11 | Adys | change the path of a default browser in the registery |
| 15:44.13 | Adys | reboot |
| 15:44.14 | Kirkburn | I do recall programs do like to ask "make me your default" |
| 15:44.16 | Adys | IE is back as default |
| 15:44.36 | Dotted | now why use the regDB? |
| 15:44.40 | Fisker- | ah! |
| 15:44.48 | Adys | because its faster than reinstalling something |
| 15:44.52 | Fisker- | So when you're messing with the computers in way you shouldn't you get unexpected results |
| 15:44.53 | Adys | you can try with that too |
| 15:44.53 | Fisker- | shocking |
| 15:45.01 | Adys | dont be fucking dumb fisker |
| 15:45.14 | Adys | as soon as the status of a current default app is changed |
| 15:45.22 | Adys | its back on MS default |
| 15:45.23 | Fisker- | Basically what you're saying is you uninstalled the program, didn't install it correctly and blamed Microsoft for trying to be USER FRIENDLY and fix the problem |
| 15:45.40 | Adys | no fisker |
| 15:45.44 | Fisker- | yes |
| 15:45.44 | Adys | get some brains or shut up |
| 15:45.46 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:45.51 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, indeed, SP1, good spot |
| 15:45.57 | Dotted | [16:43:45] [@Adys]: get some brains or shut up |
| 15:45.58 | Dotted | [16:43:46] [+Fisker-]: yes |
| 15:45.59 | Dotted | ! |
| 15:46.09 | Adys | as soon as the STATUS of an app is changed |
| 15:46.11 | Adys | it goes back on IE |
| 15:46.15 | Adys | you can try reinstalling |
| 15:46.22 | Adys | adding something from the installer |
| 15:46.23 | Kirkburn | Status? |
| 15:46.26 | Adys | removing something from the installer |
| 15:46.34 | Adys | uninstalling and installing again |
| 15:46.43 | Adys | whatever you do, windows forgets entirely about the app |
| 15:46.46 | Adys | and resets on default |
| 15:46.49 | Adys | which happens to be IE |
| 15:46.49 | Fisker- | of course |
| 15:46.52 | Adys | its VERY sensitive |
| 15:46.54 | Fisker- | why should it remember an app you have removed? |
| 15:46.56 | Kirkburn | Uninstalling/reinstalling should certainly reset it |
| 15:47.02 | Adys | yes kirk |
| 15:47.10 | Adys | but adding something through the installer no |
| 15:47.21 | Adys | theres other ways to trigger it |
| 15:47.22 | Kirkburn | Altering the program, not so much, but that's more likely a technical thing |
| 15:47.31 | Adys | there was an article about it |
| 15:47.34 | Adys | let me try and find it |
| 15:48.14 | Fisker- | Good thing i happen to have a firesux install |
| 15:49.02 | Adys | you happen to just hate anything that goes against your beloved company |
| 15:49.02 | Kirkburn | Anyway, that's not so much forcing a program on people, but ensuring that the ability is not lost. Say, for example, there was an FF install that didn't allow internet access - how should Windows know if you altered you install to that type? |
| 15:49.10 | Fisker- | actually not Adys |
| 15:49.18 | Fisker- | I like Opera, but too much bloat in my opinion |
| 15:49.30 | Kirkburn | Or that you /didn't/ alter it to that type. Thus, resetting it to a working default makes sense. |
| 15:49.48 | Adys | Kirkburn: what i meant about using registery hacks is proving at which point the reset trigger is sensitive |
| 15:50.00 | Adys | itll find any and every occasion to reset to default |
| 15:50.05 | Adys | even if the program still exists |
| 15:50.14 | Adys | its not going to bother to do any sanity check |
| 15:50.28 | Kirkburn | Well, programming sanity checks is hardly easy |
| 15:50.31 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 15:50.35 | Adys | Really? |
| 15:50.37 | Fisker- | what a shock! |
| 15:50.44 | Dotted | i must say to windblowz defense that is have never ever changed my default browser back to IE |
| 15:50.47 | Fisker- | I just added the dom inspector and the user shit to firefox |
| 15:50.51 | Adys | does default.path exist |
| 15:50.54 | Adys | if no, reset |
| 15:50.55 | Fisker- | and it kept it's default browser status! |
| 15:50.57 | Adys | if yes, die |
| 15:51.03 | Kirkburn | You want Windows to check if Fx can connect to the net in all capacities next time you change a registry line? |
| 15:51.05 | Fisker- | i'm shocked and appalled |
| 15:51.17 | Adys | dotted: It has done so only once here |
| 15:51.25 | Adys | because i never actually reinstalled firefox |
| 15:51.28 | Adys | the one time it did |
| 15:51.38 | Adys | was when i installed minefield over firefox, to have two installations |
| 15:51.46 | Adys | which just proves the point that its oversensitive |
| 15:51.47 | Kirkburn | (Windows should obviously ask when resetting though) |
| 15:51.57 | Adys | Kirkburn: No |
| 15:52.03 | Fisker- | i had a problem where i had removed thunderbird and it would keep thunderbird as the default app |
| 15:52.04 | Adys | I just want windows to verify if the application exists |
| 15:52.16 | Fisker- | even after resetting it in access & defaults |
| 15:52.23 | Fisker- | but it was fixed after i reinstalled :P |
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| 16:02.28 | Kirkburn | Adys, again, "Say, for example, there was an FF install that didn't allow internet access - how should Windows know if you altered you install to that type?" |
| 16:02.46 | Adys | uh |
| 16:02.58 | Adys | how can a ff install not allow internet access specifically |
| 16:03.40 | Adys | pretty much everyone can build a browser that doesnt allow internet access |
| 16:03.47 | Adys | and make windows think its a browser |
| 16:03.59 | Adys | its not windows job to check if the app can do its job properly |
| 16:04.09 | Adys | otherwise windows wouldnt let ie6 connect right ? :D |
| 16:04.21 | Fisker- | I think his point is what if a program had maliciously changed these settings? |
| 16:04.49 | Adys | Not window's job to reset back to IE |
| 16:05.28 | Adys | its an antivirus's job to catch the malicious program |
| 16:05.44 | Adys | microsoft antivirus live premium 2008 edition if you want |
| 16:05.48 | Adys | but not windows' job |
| 16:05.55 | Adys | and certainly not to reset it to IE |
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| 16:07.25 | Kirkburn | "microsoft antivirus live premium 2008 edition" ... it's called Windows Live OneCare actually |
| 16:07.38 | Adys | lol |
| 16:08.05 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 16:08.14 | Adys | i was just kidding about the name |
| 16:08.27 | Kirkburn | I know, but exaggeration isn't a good way to debate |
| 16:08.55 | Adys | sorry kirk but after seeing you debate I am not taking that up :) |
| 16:09.01 | Kirkburn | My theoretical idea was partly what Fisker- said, and partly that programs can do different things |
| 16:09.33 | Fisker- | That's also incorrect btw |
| 16:09.35 | Kirkburn | So what if you think I exaggerated with Zeal, it doesn't make the point elss valid |
| 16:09.50 | Adys | you overreact kirk |
| 16:09.55 | Fisker- | In a best-case scenario you shouldn't need external software to secure your software |
| 16:09.56 | Adys | nothing else wrong |
| 16:10.03 | Adys | Fisker-: Sure |
| 16:10.07 | Fisker- | but you need that, Linux, Windows but not mac, since everyone hates mac |
| 16:10.14 | Kirkburn | Hah, you think I overreact, that makes me smile |
| 16:10.25 | Kirkburn | I act as the diplomat most of the time, y'know |
| 16:10.49 | Adys | i was talking about this specifically |
| 16:10.53 | Adys | but forget it |
| 16:11.07 | Adys | Fisker-: I agree, in the best case you wouldnt need external software |
| 16:11.21 | Adys | but the fact is, the job is not to reset the settings back to default |
| 16:11.27 | Adys | its to catch the malicious program |
| 16:11.31 | Adys | totally different |
| 16:11.31 | Kirkburn | Overreacting here? I'm just saying that it's better to be realistic with what you say |
| 16:12.03 | Adys | Forget it kirk please |
| 16:12.33 | Kirkburn | Perhaps a better example ... say you installed program x, which does email and internet, then you alter the install to do only internet. |
| 16:13.04 | Kirkburn | Somehow Windows has to know that |
| 16:13.12 | Adys | thats the program's job |
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| 16:13.14 | Kirkburn | But if it's not told, it has to reset |
| 16:13.23 | Adys | Windows' expectations are: |
| 16:13.27 | Kirkburn | Adys, this is true |
| 16:13.32 | Adys | "Who are you?" |
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| 16:13.36 | Adys | "What are you here for?" |
| 16:14.02 | Adys | So if a program does both mail and browser, it has to identify itself as a mail app and a browser |
| 16:14.03 | Kirkburn | "Do you have a pass?" |
| 16:14.13 | Kirkburn | "Why aren't you wearing nice shoes?" |
| 16:14.26 | Kirkburn | (my version of security checks) |
| 16:14.33 | Adys | >< |
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| 16:14.38 | Adys | HI KALROTH |
| 16:14.43 | Adys | WHY ARENT YOU WEARING NICE SHOES |
| 16:14.45 | Kalroth | hay baby |
| 16:14.55 | Adys | ANSWER BITCH |
| 16:15.07 | Kalroth | They're in the closet. |
| 16:15.17 | Kalroth | I don't want to make them unpretty by using them. |
| 16:15.30 | Kirkburn | Adys, I do agree. This all assumes the programmers do it right, which may not occur :P (and again, wouldn't have to be mail/internet, could be more specific) |
| 16:15.47 | Adys | Kind of true |
| 16:15.51 | Adys | But .. |
| 16:16.06 | Adys | You can for example make any browser identified as a mail app |
| 16:16.10 | Adys | its just more complicated |
| 16:16.27 | Adys | but its what i did for a while since i use gmail as my mail app |
| 16:16.33 | Adys | i wanted ff to be my default mail client |
| 16:18.06 | Kirkburn | Anyway, my personal view is that MS isn't as bad as it's made out to be, and Google isn't as angelic - but not that MS is angelic, or Google is the devil :P |
| 16:18.43 | Kirkburn | If the MS/Yahoo deal only involved search, Google would absolutely have to accept it |
| 16:18.48 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: How Zen! |
| 16:19.07 | Adys | Id be worried if i knew yahoo and ms were to merge |
| 16:19.22 | Adys | Flickr future pics would have to say goodbye to CC license. |
| 16:19.33 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 16:19.53 | Kirkburn | Why? Do you think MS is incapable of respecting people's wishes? |
| 16:20.46 | Kirkburn | In what possible way would an MS takeover affect the license of images :/ |
| 16:20.46 | Adys | Not about people's wishes |
| 16:20.47 | Adys | its about their own interests |
| 16:20.53 | Kirkburn | And destroying the principles of Flickr would be in their interests? |
| 16:21.00 | Kirkburn | I find that farfetched |
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| 16:21.33 | Adys | Not about destroying the principles of Flickr, but knowing MS yes i wouldnt hope Flickr future pics to be CC |
| 16:21.48 | Kirkburn | "Knowing MS" ... they've done this before? |
| 16:22.03 | Kaso | Microsoft? flickr? whats this? |
| 16:22.13 | Adys | flickr is owned by yahoo |
| 16:22.20 | Kirkburn | "<Adys> Flickr future pics would have to say goodbye to CC license." |
| 16:22.27 | Adys | if yahoo was to accept the deal flickr would be owned by ms |
| 16:22.29 | Kaso | Ah, right |
| 16:22.33 | Kirkburn | I find that idea farfetched |
| 16:22.36 | Kaso | MS wouldnt do that |
| 16:23.16 | Kaso | if they changed the licencing to some sorta "we own your pictures" licence, the site would die over night |
| 16:23.20 | Kirkburn | MS isn't against sharing, it just doesn't believe that open source is the answer to everything |
| 16:23.33 | Adys | kaso: if they did that over night, too |
| 16:23.35 | Kirkburn | I dislike referring to MS as a single entity anyway |
| 16:23.47 | Adys | but i doubt it'd happen in a big announcement heh |
| 16:24.11 | Kirkburn | See, now we're just entering the territory of "MS is evil", without much justification |
| 16:24.25 | Kaso | they wouldnt annouce it, but in our modern world of digg and slashdot, if anything like that happened i'd be everywhere quick |
| 16:24.55 | Kirkburn | Of course they would announce it |
| 16:25.16 | Kirkburn | You can't not announce such a change |
| 16:25.30 | Adys | aye they'd definitely have to announce it somewhere |
| 16:25.41 | Kirkburn | I also fail to see why CC licensing is against MS principles |
| 16:25.51 | Adys | principles? interests you mean |
| 16:26.11 | Kirkburn | It's in Yahoo's interests too, but are you complaining about them? |
| 16:26.24 | Kirkburn | Why is MS different? |
| 16:26.27 | Adys | No because Im not worried about yahoo more than that |
| 16:26.33 | Adys | got alot more respect for yahoo :p |
| 16:26.40 | Kirkburn | This is pretty obvious |
| 16:27.55 | Adys | Kirkburn: and if you ask why i got so few respect for ms just read up on ballmer |
| 16:28.17 | Adys | he sums up my view of the company quite well :p |
| 16:28.20 | Kirkburn | Who is one guy out of the many many many many people who run and are employed by Microsoft |
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| 16:28.39 | Adys | hes the one running it nowadays |
| 16:29.17 | Adys | gates is like an old guy in a wheel chair letting others do the job (and i understand that :P) |
| 16:29.22 | Kirkburn | Just like Mr Bush is responsible for everything that happens in the US |
| 16:29.41 | Adys | uhhhhhh |
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| 16:29.48 | Adys | Who made the 45 billion dollars bid? |
| 16:29.58 | foxlit | me! |
| 16:30.02 | Adys | Gon!e |
| 16:30.03 | Kirkburn | Oh, right, Ballmer did everything himself |
| 16:30.16 | Adys | Kirkburn: Yeah |
| 16:30.18 | Adys | More or less |
| 16:30.52 | Kirkburn | So perhaps, you can focus your dislike on him, not the rest of Microsoft |
| 16:31.15 | Adys | I do |
| 16:31.32 | Kirkburn | I don't particularly like the idea of the merger myself, but Google acting all high and mighty about it is a bit rich |
| 16:31.37 | Adys | Except that ms is ran by him and if ms buys something its in his hands what they bought is |
| 16:31.49 | Adys | lol |
| 16:32.00 | Adys | Did you read http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0362915520080204? |
| 16:32.17 | Kirkburn | Tried, router is being an ass |
| 16:32.31 | Adys | Ill mirror it for you, sec. |
| 16:32.34 | Kirkburn | Ah, got it now |
| 16:32.43 | Adys | okay |
| 16:32.56 | Kirkburn | Yeah, saw that recently - that would be worse in some ways |
| 16:33.08 | Kirkburn | Would give Google even more search dominance |
| 16:33.16 | Adys | honestly it wouldnt |
| 16:33.24 | Adys | itd give google more mail dominance |
| 16:33.43 | Adys | more social dominance (image, flickr google image integration) |
| 16:33.45 | Kirkburn | How would it not? |
| 16:34.00 | Adys | no one uses yahoo search |
| 16:34.06 | Kirkburn | Google image = Picasa |
| 16:34.14 | Adys | yes i know thanks :P |
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| 16:34.22 | Adys | they'd integrate flickr to google image |
| 16:34.28 | Adys | and prob merge picasa and flickr in some way |
| 16:34.43 | foxlit | because merging google video and youtube worked so well |
| 16:34.56 | Adys | heh |
| 16:35.12 | Adys | Google vid was not old enough to be worth merging completely |
| 16:35.25 | Kirkburn | More people use Yahoo than Live Search |
| 16:35.37 | Adys | no |
| 16:35.47 | Adys | well yes |
| 16:35.48 | Kirkburn | Nov 2007 - Google 66%, Yahoo 22%, MS 7.1% |
| 16:35.52 | Adys | but not yahoo search |
| 16:36.07 | Adys | statistics suck |
| 16:36.09 | Kirkburn | According to Hitwise, by searches |
| 16:36.21 | Adys | mail and search are in the same bucket |
| 16:36.24 | Kirkburn | They sure do, when they disprove your point |
| 16:36.35 | Adys | and alot of people use ymail |
| 16:36.47 | Kirkburn | As I said, a Google/Yahoo search alliance would be much worse than an MS/Yahoo alliance |
| 16:37.13 | Adys | something is sure, i wouldnt fear for the future of yahoo if it was in google's hands. |
| 16:37.33 | Kirkburn | Fear for the future of it? How do you mean? |
| 16:37.51 | Kirkburn | Loss of name? Employees? goodwill? |
| 16:38.00 | Adys | yahoo services* |
| 16:38.12 | Adys | i dont know of anything google bought which they didnt make better |
| 16:38.29 | Adys | picasa is the "worst" they did and it was still alot better than before |
| 16:42.33 | Adys | unrelated |
| 16:42.41 | Adys | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-843994142204928073&hl=en is amazing |
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| 16:47.55 | Dotted | La Linea > * |
| 16:47.56 | Dotted | Adys |
| 16:48.01 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 16:48.02 | Adys | hm? |
| 16:48.02 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 16:48.36 | Dotted | 6http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406432/ |
| 16:48.38 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-b #wowwiki!*@*] by Adys |
| 16:48.39 | Dotted | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406432/ |
| 16:48.40 | Dotted | >_> |
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| 16:49.44 | Dotted | http://www.serienoldies.de/main/picture_show.php?id=238&pic_id=1417 |
| 16:50.10 | Adys | i remember that dotted |
| 16:50.28 | Dotted | every european should |
| 16:50.40 | Dotted | or else they arent a european |
| 16:52.26 | sacarasc | does anyone know when the dire maul arena thing happens? what times |
| 16:52.35 | Adys | random |
| 16:52.47 | sacarasc | i thought it was every 6 hours |
| 16:52.52 | Adys | Nah |
| 16:52.55 | Dotted | someone wants an orb of deception :P? |
| 16:53.01 | Adys | 12-28h timer |
| 16:53.07 | sacarasc | Dotted: maybe |
| 16:53.26 | sacarasc | nothing else to do than sit around there anyway |
| 16:55.24 | Dotted | you could watch La Linea |
| 16:56.10 | sacarasc | i could also stab myself in the face, but sitting outside an arena waiting for random mobs to spawn seems preferable |
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| 17:01.37 | Eladrien | are we allowed to ask questions directly in the channel? |
| 17:01.45 | Kirkburn | Of course |
| 17:01.59 | Eladrien | ok I somehow manged to get rid of the y and x axis thing beside the mini map |
| 17:02.02 | Eladrien | any idea how to get it back? |
| 17:02.13 | Adys | interface options |
| 17:02.24 | Adys | its somewhere there i dont remember where precisely |
| 17:02.32 | Adys | its something with minimap in the name |
| 17:03.13 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Shpongle music video - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/wow-moviewatch-shpongle-music-video/ |
| 17:03.27 | Eladrien | rotae minimap is the only minimap option in there and it doesn't bring it back |
| 17:03.37 | Adys | yes its that |
| 17:03.47 | Adys | well what do you mean then? |
| 17:03.50 | Kirkburn | What x and y axis thing? |
| 17:04.24 | Kirkburn | coordinates? |
| 17:04.28 | Kirkburn | If yes, sounds like an addon |
| 17:05.29 | Eladrien | coordinates |
| 17:05.54 | Eladrien | oh thats an add on... I used to have it and then it dissapeared... |
| 17:06.09 | Eladrien | the thing that tells you like 53, 39 and then you walk until you get there and there is somethign there lol |
| 17:06.15 | Eladrien | I'm still kind of a WoW noob |
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| 17:06.58 | Adys | off to bed, nite |
| 17:07.07 | Adys | Kirkburn: give the poor guy an addon with coords :P |
| 17:07.28 | Eladrien | lol thanks |
| 17:07.49 | Kirkburn | Squeenix, simpleMinimap, lots more |
| 17:08.01 | Eladrien | which one would you recommend |
| 17:08.01 | Eladrien | ? |
| 17:08.01 | Kirkburn | An addon channel like #wowi-lounge may give you more help |
| 17:08.08 | Eladrien | least buggy |
| 17:08.08 | Adys | simpleminimap is good |
| 17:08.10 | Kirkburn | Hmm, of those two, I've used both - not much to choose |
| 17:08.31 | Dotted | simpleMinimap, Squeenix, BasicMinimap (although this isnt released anywahere) |
| 17:08.41 | Fisker- | i liek where that documentary is going Adys |
| 17:09.00 | Dotted | i preffer Squeenix tbh dunno why |
| 17:10.07 | Eladrien | cool thanks... |
| 17:10.10 | Eladrien | I found squeenix |
| 17:10.24 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hyoszso38E |
| 17:10.30 | Kirkburn | Dotted, cause it's furrier? |
| 17:10.31 | Kaso | i think this is the cutest music video ever |
| 17:10.48 | Eladrien | do they just install or is it copy paste somehwere? |
| 17:11.25 | Eladrien | and spike jonze music videos are always good |
| 17:11.32 | Kirkburn | kitteh! |
| 17:11.47 | Dotted | nah because Tekkub made it (lol ninja highlight) |
| 17:11.57 | Kirkburn | Dotted, uh, yeah, that was my point |
| 17:12.22 | Dotted | so Tekkie is a furbie? |
| 17:12.26 | Kaso | I think the bear is cuter than the kitten, the bear is awesome |
| 17:12.27 | Kirkburn | Eladrien, copy paste ... sites likes wowinterface.com should have walkthroughs |
| 17:14.11 | Dotted | WTB Quad Core Quater Pounder Burger |
| 17:15.38 | Dotted | Lol ninja advertisement: #newsspam |
| 17:16.03 | Kirkburn | Oooh, the Beeb's version of Web 2.0 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta/ |
| 17:16.30 | Kaso | web 2.0; where no corner is left un-rounded |
| 17:17.40 | Dotted | i'm just gonna wait for web 3.9 |
| 17:17.47 | Dotted | not 4 |
| 17:17.56 | Dotted | since thats gonna be a big change |
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| 17:18.48 | Fisker- | web2.0 :( |
| 17:19.10 | Kaso | its not really 2.0 in the technical sense, seeing as there isnt any user interaction |
| 17:19.16 | Fisker- | actually not that bad |
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| 17:27.52 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I hope the BBC News site gets redone similarly soon |
| 17:28.25 | Kirkburn | Far too thin atm |
| 17:29.37 | Kirkburn | Btw, Kaso, heard about the murder trial that's going on behind closed doors in the UK? |
| 17:30.13 | Kirkburn | The first ever closed door trial in the UK, and even the newspapers aren't allowed to speculate why |
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| 17:30.46 | Kaso | Really? no i hadnt heard of that, havent had a chance to read the news in the past few days |
| 17:31.09 | Kaso | it must be someone (in)famous if its behind closed doors |
| 17:31.30 | winkiller | yay, backup for 4GB of old WoW Screenies |
| 17:31.37 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: Terrorists, no? |
| 17:31.38 | winkiller | *batch convert to JPG* |
| 17:31.43 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 17:31.45 | Kaso | McCanns? |
| 17:31.54 | Kirkburn | Nope, sec, looking for the link |
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| 17:34.13 | Kalroth | http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/business-weekly-news/2008/01/30/it-seems-an-odd-thing-but-we-all-seem-to-be-losing-any-sense-of-proportion-in-what-we-seek-from-the-news-51140-20411508/ |
| 17:34.47 | Kalroth | "the Home Secretary herself has issued what is called a “gagging order”, a Public Interest Immunity Certificate to ensure that the trial is held behind closed doors and that no details of what may be said can appear in the public domain." |
| 17:34.50 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Chappelow |
| 17:35.05 | Kalroth | Wall of teeext |
| 17:36.19 | Kirkburn | It's odd to say the least |
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| 17:36.55 | Kalroth | "A further order was made under the Contempt of Court Act 1981 prohibiting the press from any speculation as to the reasons for parts of the trial being held in private." |
| 17:37.00 | Kalroth | Go free speech! |
| 17:37.43 | Kaso | Free speech isnt always the best thing, as long as those measures limiting it are carfully policed |
| 17:37.48 | Kirkburn | Assuming it is MI6 or MI5 related, I think there has to be a certain amount of privacy |
| 17:38.23 | Kirkburn | Say an operative needed to testify, it would reveal their cover |
| 17:38.30 | Kalroth | free speech is always the best thing |
| 17:41.28 | Kaso | I think i most cases free speech is definitely good, however i think its naive to say there are no possible situations where free speech is negatively impacts socitiy |
| 17:42.20 | Kaso | it feels as if it'd be more substantial than just reaveling one agent's cover for this order to be used, Kirkburn |
| 17:42.27 | Kaso | but clearly it is something spying related |
| 17:42.31 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, agreed |
| 17:43.00 | Kirkburn | Remind's me of that phrase: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it |
| 17:43.00 | Kirkburn | " |
| 17:43.20 | kd3 | whee, and I'm reminded why I'm paying extra each month to have a separate connection to the net |
| 17:43.35 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 17:44.25 | Kaso | How is the network set up in your apartment? |
| 17:44.49 | Fisker- | hail kd3 |
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| 17:47.42 | pcj | hi dutempete :) |
| 17:47.54 | DuTempete_ | hi pcj ;) |
| 17:48.47 | kd3 | we've got a giant 16-port switch that's connected to the apartment complex's uplink, right next to it is the coax splitter. the cable modem is plugged in before it hits the cable splitter and some of the wires that were plugged into the CM are plugged into the 4-port router |
| 17:50.14 | Fisker- | hubs = win |
| 17:50.26 | Kaso | hubs ^_- |
| 17:50.46 | kd3 | s/into the CM/into the switch/ |
| 17:51.36 | Kaso | So you got a home router serving 16 clients, that'll cause some problems |
| 17:51.40 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311057789&sid=1#4 <-massive fail |
| 17:51.48 | Fisker- | someone tell him why he is a faggot |
| 17:54.12 | Kirkburn | hoi, language Fisker- |
| 17:54.26 | Fisker- | i can't help it |
| 17:54.28 | Lethain | hehe what a nub :D |
| 17:54.32 | Fisker- | I'm using Microsoft W0rd IRC Client |
| 17:54.33 | Kirkburn | Well, please try |
| 17:54.41 | Fisker- | and it autosuggested faggot :( |
| 17:54.41 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:54.52 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, don't push it |
| 17:55.05 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:55.25 | Fisker- | Someone write a constructive post explaining in 12 points how he is wrong then :) |
| 17:55.25 | kd3 | nah. the cable modem only sees ~4 at a time. cbeech has got some commercial cisco software handling the rest of the apartment |
| 17:55.49 | kd3 | s/a time/a time (or 1 from behind the NAT)/ |
| 17:55.50 | Adys | he edited it |
| 17:56.13 | kd3 | s/software/hardware |
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| 17:58.58 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 17:59.03 | Fisker- | i saw a shaman cast a teleport spell |
| 18:00.14 | Fisker- | ah lol |
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| 18:00.21 | Fisker- | Teleport: Black Temple |
| 18:01.58 | Amberrock | olz |
| 18:02.53 | Kaso | could've been astral recal also |
| 18:02.58 | Kaso | cheaty hax fast hs |
| 18:03.07 | Schnoobby | ey |
| 18:03.15 | Schnoobby | we don't cheat^^ |
| 18:03.54 | kd3 | astral recall? |
| 18:03.54 | kd3 | engineer? |
| 18:04.33 | Kaso | astral recall is a spell that has no reason to exist |
| 18:04.49 | Gourra | remove mage self portals plx |
| 18:05.03 | Gourra | s/self portals/teleport/ |
| 18:05.28 | Kaso | they'd still just use portals to teleport themselves |
| 18:05.30 | Schnoobby | remove blink from mages |
| 18:05.41 | Schnoobby | also has no reason to exist |
| 18:05.46 | Schnoobby | ^^ |
| 18:05.48 | Gourra | remove ghost wolf, mounts, travel form, Teleport: Moonglade, etc etc |
| 18:05.48 | Kaso | i know mages who just use portals anyway cos they're too lazy to carry two reagents |
| 18:06.22 | Schnoobby | in that case you can remove almost every spell |
| 18:06.26 | Kaso | blink has plenty reason to exist, teleport moonglade is pretty useless anyway so ill let it live, travel forms can go i think |
| 18:06.44 | Schnoobby | why should blink exist and the others not? |
| 18:06.45 | Gourra | go variety? |
| 18:07.00 | Gourra | omg I know let's make every class look like the same |
| 18:07.08 | Kaso | blink isnt a speed increasing spell, its a combat spell |
| 18:07.09 | Schnoobby | yeah |
| 18:07.22 | Schnoobby | @Gourra: yeah^^ |
| 18:07.37 | Kaso | it's purpose is so you can get away from melee, i'd be ok with blink being made in-combat-only |
| 18:08.07 | Schnoobby | then give shamans some sort of shadowstep and i'm happy^^ |
| 18:08.23 | Gourra | give priest some kind of vanish |
| 18:08.35 | Gourra | fade -> vanish tbh |
| 18:08.36 | Schnoobby | then you can remove astral recall if you want |
| 18:08.50 | Gourra | it's fine L2P |
| 18:09.11 | Schnoobby | buff pvp shamans ftw:) |
| 18:09.16 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: 2.4 Under Development page and more details - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4068.0 |
| 18:09.20 | Schnoobby | they suck against each other class |
| 18:09.25 | Gourra | omgomg 2.4 |
| 18:09.36 | Kaso | I'd be happy with fade just being a un-target spell, doesnt need to be a full vanish |
| 18:09.38 | Schnoobby | let's forget 2.4 ok? |
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| 18:10.09 | Schnoobby | earth shield on 30 sec CD? rofl |
| 18:10.17 | Gourra | "New teleportation portal to the Caverns of Time accessible through reputation with Keepers of Time" yess |
| 18:10.27 | Kirkburn | oh flibble ... rep!? |
| 18:10.49 | Kirkburn | kd3, time for you to have some fun? :P |
| 18:10.52 | Schnoobby | what else^^ |
| 18:11.17 | Gourra | "Some PvP rewards now obtainable through PvE content" fail |
| 18:11.24 | Schnoobby | wow isn't about farming rep, isn't it? :D |
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| 18:11.46 | Gourra | nooooo it's about.. fish |
| 18:11.52 | Schnoobby | lol |
| 18:11.59 | Gourra | {{User Fish}} |
| 18:12.00 | [NewsBot] | Gourra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Fish |
| 18:12.09 | Gourra | aww boo |
| 18:12.13 | Gourra | where's that template.. |
| 18:12.36 | Gourra | {{User IsFish}} |
| 18:12.37 | [NewsBot] | Gourra meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_IsFish |
| 18:13.00 | Schnoobby | i'm off, gotta get something to drink, have all my exams finished today :D |
| 18:13.02 | Schnoobby | cya |
| 18:13.06 | Gourra | bye |
| 18:13.07 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Partial Patch 2.4 Patch Notes - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2063 |
| 18:13.32 | Fisker- | COME ON |
| 18:13.34 | Fisker- | seriously |
| 18:13.37 | Fisker- | they gotta be kidding us |
| 18:13.53 | Gourra | with what? |
| 18:14.06 | Fisker- | they're buffing balinda, moving the horde entrance further back |
| 18:14.32 | Fisker- | that's so bullshit |
| 18:19.04 | Gourra | "The additional health we recently added to Balinda and General Vanndar Stormpike will no longer be needed with these improvements" |
| 18:19.10 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Surge of 2.4 info part 2 - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10638-1.html |
| 18:24.18 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, are you perchance a hordie? |
| 18:25.15 | Fisker- | why no, i'm an alliance :P |
| 18:25.25 | kd3|lagged | ahahaha. what a joke. after the flood we got on friday, that's all they post? |
| 18:25.32 | Kirkburn | lies, all lies |
| 18:25.50 | kd3|lagged | wha? |
| 18:26.01 | Fisker- | it doesn't change much in my opinion |
| 18:26.12 | Kirkburn | @ Fisker-, kd3 :P |
| 18:26.27 | Fisker- | fact is that the horde base is pitiful compared to the alliance base |
| 18:26.41 | Fisker- | we have better terrain options as horde vs. alliance |
| 18:26.49 | Fisker- | but obviously none of this works out in favor of the horde |
| 18:27.09 | Fisker- | so making it harder is just insanity |
| 18:27.19 | Kirkburn | Obviously o_O |
| 18:30.43 | pcj | pwnt |
| 18:30.51 | Fisker- | in your butt |
| 18:31.06 | pcj | ur just mad because ur a belf |
| 18:31.21 | Fisker- | i'm merely repaying the favour |
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| 18:39.01 | Kirkburn | I miss TOR :( |
| 18:40.21 | Kalroth | The anonymous network? :) |
| 18:40.34 | Kirkburn | No, the techie :P |
| 18:42.04 | *** part/#wowwiki dragonbeez (n=dragonbe@dial46-108.brunet.bn) |
| 18:42.16 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o DuTempete] by ChanServ |
| 18:42.34 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 18:43.15 | Kirkburn | Who keeps giving my girlfriend +o? :O |
| 18:43.18 | pcj | adys |
| 18:43.32 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Kirkburn] by Adys |
| 18:43.33 | pcj | /cs access #wowwiki list |
| 18:43.57 | Kirkburn | Cause though I love it, I'm not keen on people thinking there's favoritism going on |
| 18:44.10 | Adys | ok kirkburn, let me fix that |
| 18:44.21 | Kirkburn | Adys, you're so predictable |
| 18:44.22 | pcj | op everyone imo |
| 18:44.29 | Adys | Well what. :( |
| 18:44.33 | Kirkburn | He's going to try deopping me, I bet :P |
| 18:44.40 | Fisker- | well you could always break up with her |
| 18:44.46 | Kirkburn | Not happening :) |
| 18:44.59 | DuTempete | I've been trying to get de-opped for weeks, now. |
| 18:45.07 | DuTempete | Every time I de-op myself, he redoes it. |
| 18:45.13 | DuTempete | watch |
| 18:45.18 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o DuTempete] by DuTempete |
| 18:45.19 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!*@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net] by Adys |
| 18:45.19 | *** kick/#wowwiki [DuTempete!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (Adys) |
| 18:45.27 | pcj | pwnt |
| 18:45.32 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-b *!*@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net] by Adys |
| 18:45.32 | DuTempete_ | still here :P |
| 18:45.37 | Kalroth | haha |
| 18:45.37 | Adys | Bah. |
| 18:45.40 | DuTempete_ | bwahahaha |
| 18:45.45 | Kirkburn | looool |
| 18:46.01 | pcj | flawless victory |
| 18:46.07 | *** join/#wowwiki DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:46.07 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o DuTempete] by ChanServ |
| 18:46.13 | Adys | not really, since *!*@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net was affecting the clone too |
| 18:46.19 | Adys | the ban would have been for both |
| 18:46.24 | Adys | and the clone wouldnt have been able to talk |
| 18:46.29 | pcj | unless she used a proxy |
| 18:46.37 | Adys | your mum uses a proxy |
| 18:46.42 | Kirkburn | Well, er ... how was she talking? |
| 18:46.43 | DuTempete_ | in my pants |
| 18:46.49 | Adys | Kirkburn: |
| 18:46.49 | Adys | [19:45:34] * Adys removes ban on *!*@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net |
| 18:46.53 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: So that's how it's like? Shag with Kirkburn and you get ops?! At least I know how Adys earned his now. |
| 18:47.02 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I don't believe you :P |
| 18:47.03 | Adys | Kalroth: its the other way around |
| 18:47.09 | Adys | Kirkburn: Do try :P |
| 18:47.10 | DuTempete | omg, seriously Adys |
| 18:47.15 | Kirkburn | Shag with ops and you get Kirkburn? |
| 18:47.20 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 18:47.20 | Adys | Yeah |
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| 18:47.54 | DuTempete | I really don't want to get harassed about this. Please remove my op. |
| 18:48.03 | Kalroth | DuTempete: I was just kidding. :) |
| 18:48.24 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+oooo DuTempete DuTempete DuTempete DuTempete] by Adys |
| 18:48.52 | Kirkburn | I think you forgot a name :O |
| 18:49.09 | Kalroth | Operator means nothing but what the word says, people that put a status symbol into it are just being silly. |
| 18:49.23 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kalroth!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (you cant do that) |
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| 18:49.27 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kalroth] by ChanServ |
| 18:49.32 | Kalroth | I don't need to! |
| 18:49.38 | Kalroth | I'm well hung, so I don't have to make up for it. |
| 18:49.38 | Adys | You got shags? |
| 18:49.49 | Kalroth | Now you frenchies on the other hand .. |
| 18:50.10 | Kirkburn | It is supposed to be: admins are op, bot owners and popular website runners are voiced |
| 18:50.21 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Lukian] by ChanServ |
| 18:50.30 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 18:50.57 | Kalroth | I wasn't aware of that, sorry. If there's a ruleset for it, then it's pretty simple. |
| 18:51.09 | Kirkburn | *someone* has been bending the rules, and it wasn't me :O |
| 18:51.19 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: isn't wowwiki a popular website though?! |
| 18:51.21 | DuTempete | It was always the ruleset I was aware of. :P |
| 18:51.24 | Adys | Ive been bending alot more than the rules |
| 18:51.34 | Kirkburn | In your pants? |
| 18:51.40 | pcj | I bent a paper clip once |
| 18:52.08 | DuTempete | Technically, though, it was supposed to only be editors who deserved recognition for their work on the wiki that even got voice, such as high edit counts. I should even be voiced, honestly. |
| 18:52.20 | foxlit | high epeen counts? |
| 18:52.20 | pcj | Yeah, srsly |
| 18:52.21 | Kalroth | DuTempete: Shouldn't* |
| 18:52.26 | DuTempete | I bend time. |
| 18:52.30 | DuTempete | yes, *shouldn't |
| 18:52.32 | Kalroth | I bend Adys. |
| 18:52.39 | Adys | *kirkburn |
| 18:52.46 | pcj | *Adys bends |
| 18:52.51 | pcj | *for |
| 18:52.53 | Fisker- | Kirkburn wanna be boyfriends for admin then? |
| 18:52.54 | Adys | yes, *kirkburn |
| 18:53.02 | Kalroth | pcj and Kirkburn are sitting in a* |
| 18:53.08 | Adys | *boyfriend |
| 18:53.13 | pcj | *balloons |
| 18:53.24 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 18:53.31 | Adys | Kirkburn has a big car* |
| 18:53.36 | Kalroth | Uh oh, I can feel the pain incoming. |
| 18:54.13 | Kalroth | Whenever Kirkburn ops himself it's to kick ass or chew bubblegum and he's all out of scotch. |
| 18:54.40 | Adys | you're doing it wrong |
| 18:54.47 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v krag0th|Mac] by Adys |
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| 19:06.55 | Kirkburn | Dotted, is it possible for you to show a couple of feeds on #wikia-gaming? |
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| 19:07.09 | Dotted | again? |
| 19:07.27 | Kirkburn | Well, why did you stop? |
| 19:07.38 | Kirkburn | Channel doesn't work the same as #wikia :P |
| 19:07.41 | Dotted | i was told ti |
| 19:07.45 | Dotted | to* |
| 19:08.04 | Kirkburn | Really? |
| 19:08.21 | Fisker- | drama? |
| 19:08.33 | Dotted | else i wouldnt have removed it |
| 19:08.34 | Kirkburn | Well, I would only suggest doing gamepolitics atm |
| 19:09.01 | Kirkburn | #wikia I can understand, but #wikia-gaming is a whole different kettle of fish |
| 19:09.09 | Dotted | still i was told ti |
| 19:09.12 | Dotted | to |
| 19:09.15 | Kirkburn | by? |
| 19:09.26 | Dotted | dunno |
| 19:12.05 | [NewsBot] | maybe it was because of my [[wikilink]]'ifier |
| 19:12.20 | [NewsBot] | dont have logs of it, it seems |
| 19:12.44 | Kirkburn | Can that be turned off? |
| 19:13.30 | [NewsBot] | im just guessing, but sure i can do that |
| 19:29.30 | Kirkburn | omg, wiki that uses text blink |
| 19:29.33 | Kirkburn | MUST KILL |
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| 19:33.10 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: BattleChat Part 2 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2064 |
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| 19:33.18 | Adys | er |
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| 19:35.13 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: AV improvements slated for 2.4 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/av-to-be-improved-in-2-4/ |
| 19:35.30 | Fisker- | lolol |
| 19:35.35 | Fisker- | failinsider is faaaaaaaaaaail |
| 19:35.37 | Fisker- | "improvements" |
| 19:35.37 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 20:03.14 | kd3|lagged | oh wow. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
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| 20:08.42 | Lukian | New Heroic badge rewards |
| 20:08.45 | Lukian | oh god. |
| 20:08.54 | Lukian | Glad I haven't spent any on my paladin yet |
| 20:08.59 | Lukian | wtb feral druid shoulders. |
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| 20:12.58 | ralfWORK | moar? |
| 20:14.07 | Lukian | yeah moar :o |
| 20:14.39 | Lukian | Some PvP rewards now obtainable through PvE content |
| 20:14.41 | Lukian | rofl, wut? |
| 20:14.54 | Adys | totally new |
| 20:14.56 | Lukian | or is that related to the badges? |
| 20:14.58 | pcj | They always have been... |
| 20:15.08 | pcj | But tanks can't get good pve gear through pvp :( |
| 20:15.25 | Lukian | druid tanks can! :D |
| 20:15.55 | kd3|lagged | it's the lev70 blues that got removed when arena s1 was added to the honor vendors |
| 20:15.55 | kd3|lagged | it's in the PvP section too with more info |
| 20:16.42 | kd3|lagged | er, "Items". Players will now be able to purchase level 70 Superior quality PvP items from reputation vendors.[4] (Reputation vendors in Outland.) |
| 20:17.50 | Lukian | Reputation? hell yeah! |
| 20:18.11 | Lukian | I only have a few reps left to max on my druid |
| 20:18.41 | Lukian | "Superior" ? |
| 20:18.46 | Lukian | Isn't that blue? |
| 20:18.56 | Lukian | That doesn't sound too good :p |
| 20:19.52 | kd3|lagged | yes |
| 20:20.41 | kd3|lagged | the lv70 honor gear was blue until s1 replaced it... |
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| 20:21.49 | Lukian | which items are ye talking about, I'm curious |
| 20:23.39 | kd3|lagged | http://www.wowwiki.com/PvP-70 |
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| 20:35.58 | ralfWORK | I think I have zero outland factions to get rep with |
| 20:35.59 | ralfWORK | :( |
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| 20:36.37 | ralfWORK | Lukian: could be like the PVP capes/trinkets they introduced last patch |
| 20:39.14 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Under Development page updated - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/under-development-page-updated/ |
| 20:43.35 | ralfWORK | [NewsBot]: slow poke |
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| 20:53.07 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: CVG - Wrath of the Lich King: Part One - Knowing the Lore - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2066 |
| 20:53.13 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II Q&A - Batch 28 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2065 |
| 20:57.52 | Kirkburn | lolwut, this wiki has their contents set up to look like the category list |
| 20:57.56 | Kirkburn | ............... |
| 20:58.04 | Dotted | link |
| 20:58.07 | Kirkburn | no |
| 20:58.10 | Dotted | link |
| 20:58.32 | Kirkburn | This is work, so no :) |
| 20:58.36 | Dotted | link |
| 20:58.49 | Kirkburn | Oh, now you've said it three time, I must obey |
| 20:58.54 | Dotted | link |
| 20:59.04 | Kirkburn | Ruined it now |
| 20:59.07 | Dotted | link |
| 20:59.59 | Dotted | :o |
| 21:00.48 | Lukian | Fisker- kisses Delicious Cave Mould! |
| 21:01.03 | pcj | *Mold |
| 21:01.14 | Lukian | so it is :o |
| 21:01.24 | DuTempete | pcj, leave the poor brits alone |
| 21:01.36 | pcj | item names don't translate well |
| 21:01.40 | pcj | or at all |
| 21:01.49 | Fisker- | i'm sick in my sickness |
| 21:03.14 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Legendary Sisterhood shakes up Sentinels - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/the-legendary-sisterhood-shakes-up-sentinels/ |
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| 21:07.11 | Sky2042 | It's good to be a tenor. |
| 21:09.50 | DuTempete | You like having tiny balls? |
| 21:10.03 | Fisker- | no u |
| 21:11.35 | Kirkburn | Bass ftw |
| 21:11.51 | Fisker- | bass indeed |
| 21:11.54 | Kirkburn | Leaving choir as a soprano and going back as a bass is always fun :P |
| 21:12.20 | Dotted | btw Kirkburn |
| 21:12.24 | Kirkburn | All those testosterone injections, yes Fisker- I know how your mind works |
| 21:12.26 | Dotted | link |
| 21:12.31 | DuTempete | I like basses, too :P |
| 21:12.52 | Kirkburn | Hey, wanna be my girlfriend? |
| 21:12.52 | pcj | Trout imo |
| 21:13.23 | pcj | Sure |
| 21:13.30 | DuTempete | Hrmm... I heard you already have a girlfriend, Kirkburn |
| 21:13.59 | Adys | INCOMING YOUR MUM HAS A GIRLFRIEND JOKE IN FIVE SECONDS |
| 21:14.09 | Kirkburn | Ooh, true ... I hope she's not reading this |
| 21:14.20 | Kirkburn | Adys, you missed the 5 seconds |
| 21:14.21 | DuTempete | INCOMING IN MY PANTS JOKE AFTER ADYS YOUR MUM JOKE |
| 21:14.39 | Adys | No, I protected you from the evil, low joke |
| 21:14.40 | Kirkburn | INCOMING MISSILE ATTACK |
| 21:15.01 | Adys | Im writing a fucking article about google, ms and yahoo |
| 21:15.16 | Kirkburn | I bet I'll love it |
| 21:15.16 | Adys | because dumbf*cks cant think over their own balls. |
| 21:15.33 | Kirkburn | Cause we had such a productive conversation earlier Mr. MS hater :P |
| 21:15.45 | Adys | Yeah you googlebitch |
| 21:15.58 | Kirkburn | Um, I think you got mised up there |
| 21:16.01 | Kirkburn | *mixed |
| 21:16.09 | Kirkburn | You're the Googlebitch, silly |
| 21:16.14 | Adys | Im in your memes googling your bitches |
| 21:16.30 | Kirkburn | How are they? |
| 21:16.34 | Adys | IM IN YOUR FRIDGE INDEXING YOUR FOOD |
| 21:16.35 | Adys | baahah |
| 21:16.39 | Adys | sorry |
| 21:17.07 | Kirkburn | I want to know how my bitches are :( |
| 21:17.12 | Adys | jfgi |
| 21:17.14 | DuTempete | I'm good. |
| 21:17.21 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 21:18.22 | Kirkburn | Now for dinner :) |
| 21:18.34 | Adys | SEE YOU IN THE FRIDGE BITCH |
| 21:18.37 | Adys | BADUM ZING |
| 21:19.06 | Adys | oh kirkburn |
| 21:19.11 | Adys | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/229085445/article.pl |
| 21:19.12 | Adys | :) |
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| 21:20.55 | Kirkburn | The image of Bill as a Borg really set's it off, don't you think |
| 21:24.46 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: eh? |
| 21:29.03 | Ose | so... how do you count how many edits you have? is there some fancy way, or do I just have to count how many hundred pages I have? |
| 21:29.22 | Sky2042 | well, foxlit has a bot that'll do it, but otherwise, have fun |
| 21:29.23 | Sky2042 | =] |
| 21:30.13 | Fisker- | it's not that hard |
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| 21:30.28 | Fisker- | you can just count the number of pages and show 500 edits per page |
| 21:31.40 | Ose | hmm... theres two of them... so that means I have 500 edits or more..? |
| 21:31.48 | Sky2042 | yes. |
| 21:31.50 | Ose | kewl |
| 21:31.54 | Sky2042 | 500-1000 |
| 21:32.55 | Ose | 99,9% is propably something starting with [[User:Ose]] :P |
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| 22:03.20 | foxlit | Hm, I need a quote for next release :/ |
| 22:03.59 | Sky2042 | foxlit: of? |
| 22:04.14 | foxlit | typically anything in wow |
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| 22:07.19 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Zami's Official WoW forum dictionary - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/zamis-official-wow-forum-dictionary/ |
| 22:14.30 | Sky2042 | well, fuck. |
| 22:15.33 | foxlit | cloverfield has a wiki! |
| 22:15.43 | Sky2042 | you haven't seen it? |
| 22:15.53 | foxlit | No |
| 22:16.13 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 22:17.01 | foxlit | Sounds like a reatively small topic, though |
| 22:17.44 | Sky2042 | indeed. |
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| 22:35.55 | Kirkburn | Shockingly, cloverfield.wikia.com exists |
| 22:36.33 | Kirkburn | 34 articles so far, seems a reasonable amount atm |
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| 22:49.23 | kadrahil | so i keep running out of mana every 2-3 mobs on my shadow priest. any suggestions? ;/ |
| 22:49.26 | kadrahil | at 59 |
| 22:49.59 | Kirkburn | Stop sucking :) |
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| 22:50.06 | Kirkburn | Don't you have a drain mana spell? |
| 22:50.15 | Sky2042 | get +mana ability |
| 22:53.06 | Kalroth | hrm, can wikia do vhosts? |
| 22:54.26 | Kalroth | eg chav.wikia.com is a subdomain and kirkburn.is.a.chav.wikia.com is a vhost |
| 22:54.44 | Kalroth | and if so, can I get above vhost?! |
| 22:56.03 | kadrahil | maybe i'm spamming pw:s too much |
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| 22:56.59 | Sky2042 | posiblemente. |
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| 23:03.20 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Insider Show Episode 23: Mojo and other popular loot - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/wow-insider-show-episode-23-mojo-and-other-popular-loot/ |
| 23:08.43 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, hmmm |
| 23:09.01 | Kalroth | No need to answer second question if first is a no! |
| 23:09.30 | Kirkburn | Alt languages are in the form es.finalfantasy.wikia.com |
| 23:09.45 | Kalroth | Is there an alt language for a? :P |
| 23:10.10 | Kalroth | I could settle with kirkburn@a.chav.wikia.com really! |
| 23:11.11 | Kirkburn | lol, they'll all be two characters |
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| 23:35.20 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Fandral Staghelm kill simulator - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/fandral-staghelm-kill-simulator/ |
| 23:39.30 | Lukian | What's the chances of live maint tonight? |
| 23:40.15 | Kirkburn | If a non-live one hasn't been announced - pretty high? |
| 23:40.43 | Lukian | Still the realm transfers notice |
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