IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080120

00:24.58Zealnn all
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01:16.40Adyslol Kalroth
01:16.46Adysi saw you there
01:17.06Adysreported. :(
01:18.39KalrothI was bored, thought I'd click some random links
01:19.04Adysthis user is annoying too
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01:53.06Schwingungenany1 around that can help me in a question?
01:53.28SchwingungenI need to know how do I join the Demon Soul server/realm
01:53.51SchwingungenI'm new at the game and I don't know what to do.
01:54.18MentalPowererm... just create a character there
01:54.25Schwingungenthe realm
01:54.31Schwingungendoesn't appear on the list
01:54.40Adysits not sorted alphabetically
01:54.40Schwingungenthat's the problem
01:54.41KasoAre you in EU or US?
01:54.51Schwingungenbut I want to play
01:54.52Schwingungenin the US
01:54.57Adysyou cant
01:55.03MentalPoweryou need a US account for that
01:55.09AdysEU accounts cant connect to US realms
01:55.12Schwingungenand how do I get one?
01:55.24Adysyou buy a game from the US
01:55.24Schwingungenbecause all the people I know
01:55.24MentalPoweramazon, ebay, friend
01:55.32Adyswhat MentalPower said
01:56.05Schwingungenwhich means I have to buy it to someone
01:56.14Schwingungennice, lol.
01:56.31Kasoyou bought an EU account which is no use to you?
01:56.47SchwingungenWell, it's not that.
01:57.01SchwingungenOf course I will use it.
01:57.14SchwingungenBut I thought that I could play
01:57.17Schwingungenin all realms
01:57.23Schwingungenguess not.
01:57.42KasoEu and Us are seperate
01:57.51Schwingungenno shit, Sherlock.
01:58.13SchwingungenI thought that there was no distinction
01:58.30Schwingungenbecuase I played Lineage2 with the guys who play now WoW
01:58.34AdysFrench Wikipedia talk: css is hot
01:58.44KasoThe problem is if they "let" EU guys play in EU they'd get tonnes of people bitching about how laggy it is
01:58.48Schwingungenand I thought it would be just like that: simple.
01:58.49Kasoso they keep you close to home
01:59.25SchwingungenAnd it makes sense, a lot.
01:59.51Adysit doesnt in fact
01:59.56AdysUS realms are not laggy
02:00.03Adysi say that and i play from france on US realms
02:00.46SchwingungenI don't know where most part of the players play
02:00.58Schwingungenso I can't argue with you about that.
02:01.26Kasowell depends on your netconnection to ofc, but the extra 1000 miles adds a noticable chunk of latency
02:01.39KasoAlso theres the support issues of having cross the pond playing
02:01.55SchwingungenI see
02:02.28SchwingungenAnd do you guys know where can I buy an ACC? And are those ACC expensive?
02:02.39KasoACC=Account ?
02:02.50SchwingungenIsn't that the way
02:02.56SchwingungenI can play in the US servers?
02:03.02Kasoyou can buy em off the website i think
02:03.04Adysyou buy an US account by buying the US version of the game
02:03.07Adysnah you cant kaso
02:03.16Adysebay/amazon or get someone else to do it
02:03.47Kasooh really? i bought TBC off wow website, cant do it with vanila?
02:04.09Kasothat sucks
02:04.15Schwingungenwhat's a TBC? (Let me check my Battle Chest, LOL)
02:04.25Adysschwingungen, burning crusade
02:04.27Adysthe expansion
02:04.34SchwingungenThe Burning Crusade
02:04.47SchwingungenI deserve a cookie.
02:05.02SchwingungenThanks for your help.
02:05.06SchwingungenOne more thing
02:05.10Schwingungenin the EU servers
02:05.15Schwingungenwhat's the best one to play
02:05.29Schwingungenjoin some guild and have some PVP.
02:06.06Schwingungenthe best realm, I mean.
02:06.11KasoSome would say Magtheridon
02:06.18KasoBut theyre all pretty similar
02:06.25bleeterthere's a battlegroup that's having lotsa transfers of arena folks
02:06.30SchwingungenSimilar to what?
02:06.32bleeterie, lotsa arena folks transferring to it
02:06.37Schwingungenall the realms, ok.
02:06.42Schwingungenshit, I'm too slow today.
02:07.04SchwingungenOk, thanks again.
02:07.05bleeterbattlegroup 9, I think it is. from memory, there was a recent post about it on the EU forums, and a blue followed it up.
02:07.37bleeterbluetracker or wowblues would prolly find the post I'm referring to
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02:08.16Sky2042hey, kd3, why did you stub ?
02:09.39kd3ah, bah. hit the wrong key. that one just needed the {{guiild}} tag
02:10.01Sky2042double checking =)
02:11.20Sky2042i got owned
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02:16.26Sky2042wowwiki's > allakhazam on alexa
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04:19.17Sky2042kd3: what did you do, do an internal search for ?
04:40.10Hobinheimwho controls the rss bots in this channel
04:40.17Hobinheimor... what software do they use?
04:41.00kd3it's [newsbot]. but I forget who owns it
04:41.12kd3dotted, according to the /whois
04:41.23Hobinheimpaging dotted
04:41.47Hobinheimkd3, thx
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05:28.42clintmis something going on with the connection to wow?
05:29.45Liothenseems like a router went down
05:29.54Liothenor a central hub to the server farms
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05:34.53kd3LA datacenter took a nosedive
05:35.07kd3core router must've gone down, the whole midwest is slow
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05:37.16prahjektso, WoW servers are down, huh?
05:37.26LadySerenanot just WoW
05:37.29prahjektwebsite too
05:37.32LadySerenaall Blizzard servers are dead
05:37.34Liothenseems like AT&T backbone is all crap
05:37.36prahjektoh, dang
05:37.48prahjektand i'm so close to 70, too :P
05:37.48Liothenlooking at the metrics
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05:38.57prahjektwell, it looks like i might get to bed at a decent time tonight then lol
05:39.23kadrahilthey don't even have a login MOTD up yet
05:39.55Adysits 7am i still havent slept
05:40.14AdysBeen fucking reading through the entire documentation about googlefilesystem
05:40.49Liothenlol why are you reading about gfs?
05:41.12AdysI need to do a gigantic explanation on the internal google storage system
05:41.37Liothengood luck on that :P
05:41.49prahjektSounds like a blast...
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05:42.41Liothenrofl, distributed file systems always give me a headache
05:43.02Adysyou too eh?
05:44.33Liothenjust thinking of the load on a master server.
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05:46.55Adysuuuuughhh i should be workinnnnggg
05:47.01Adysim dead tired
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05:47.25Adysand instead of going to sleep im making a steak while continuing with thise fucking file system
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05:48.57Liothenthe only way that system would work is on gigabit hardware or fiber
05:51.04Adystell me about it
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05:51.09Adysliothen, wanna finish the doc for me? :P
05:51.17AdysI only need 6 more pages.
05:51.18Liothenhaha no
05:51.47Liothenatleast they updated there news server
05:51.54LadySerenathey did?
05:52.12Adyswhen LadySerena talks i get highlighted :(
05:52.35LadySerenaI have Wireshark running, I'm getting just one packet from Blizz every 10-30 seconds
05:52.39Adysbecause of this dumb overdone regex
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05:52.57Adysand this dumb client too aah
05:53.42Adyshulkmania, activision bought wow and has taken the servers offline. Youll have to wait for the offline game to come out
05:53.42Hulkmaniai was playing and boom the server lost connection
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05:54.04Hulkmaniayour joking me
05:54.12AdysNo Im dead serious
05:54.18Hulkmaniano way!
05:54.44Hulkmaniawhere can i find more information about this?
05:54.46AdysSeriously. You should also announce it to all your friends so people know.
05:54.56Adys(I'm off to bed, enjoy)
05:55.01Hulkmaniano wait
05:55.12Hulkmaniatell me where i can read about this
05:56.58Hulkmaniaok anyone else out there know anything about whats going on with WOW?
05:57.36kadrahilAdys: rofl
05:57.56PhotazWell, the news states "we are experiencing an issue with players disconnecting from certain realms and are actively investigating this with our ISP. Thank youf or your patience...
05:58.03Hulkmaniaso he's was just pulling my middle leg there kadrahil?
05:58.17kadrahilyes :P
05:58.18AdysEw i dont want your middle leg
05:58.26Adysand Im sleeping whats with the highlights
05:58.39kadrahillikes highlights in his sleep
05:59.37Adysturning it off
05:59.52Hulkmaniaso i'm stuck with no game play because of their server problems.. that sucks
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06:00.06Hulkmaniai'm out of here too later gators
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06:02.28Matthefrogso.... how about those servers crashing?
06:03.03Adyskadrahil, tell him about activision buying wow
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06:19.08bleeterif you missed the news in #wowi-lounge, some reports of possible fire @ AT&T Houston, tho not confirmed as cause of major outages
06:19.24bleetersomething about Chicago, St Louis and Dallas also effected
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17:28.44GourraHobinheim, you may want to take a look at this [[Esotericorderofdagon]]
17:34.29Zealoh ffs
17:34.37Gourraoh, he just changed it. nvm
17:34.40Zeal===Issue 3===
17:34.40Zeal*[[Destiny Awaits!]]
17:34.40ZealWritten by Walter Simonson; Art by Ludo Lullabi & Sandra Hope; Covers by Jim Lee and Samwise Didier
17:34.40ZealRehgar takes Lo'Gosh and Broll to Thunder Bluff for a cleansing ritual. Unfortunately for the pair, lurking beneath the surface of the Pools of Vision is a force like nothing they've ever faced before! The future looks dark for Lo'Gosh as new threats mount against him in this epic title from Walter Simonson and Ludo Lullabi!
17:34.41ZealWildstorm | 32pg. | Color | $2.99 US
17:34.43ZealOn Sale January 16, 2008 <ref></ref>
17:35.04Zeal <-- changing all NPC's to remove titles.
17:35.12Zealquoting policy to do it, which is wrong.
17:35.17Zealand he's doen alot..
17:39.55Zealww still being slow, so this is gunna take a while to revert it all :/
17:44.00Zealapparently Baggins told him too.. *sigh*
17:46.57Zealseems someone snuck in some clauses to the policy which is going to have a large impact
17:47.02Zealgunna open discussion
17:48.38Zealscratch that.. i'm the one that supported the change >_>;;;
17:50.44Zealvandal on wc pump btw kd3 ;)
17:53.10kd3good grief at all of the one-use accounts hitting the wc pump. /bans them all
17:54.23Zealindeed, last 3 days been lots : /
17:56.05Zeal404 images are fun
17:56.12Zealwtf is going on with ww lately : /
17:56.37Zealslower and slower, and now lots of time outs
18:11.49kd3slowwiki is slow
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19:25.44kd3hey sannse. can you poke someone in ops? slowwiki has been slow for a few hours now
19:26.39sannsek, will do
19:29.53zealactually wikia is slow too i found
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19:30.01zealatleast the start wiki was
19:34.16sannsethe guys have kicked a server that was playing up - hopefully that will help
19:34.52kd3sweet. gotta love the simple solutions. steel-toed boots, I'd hope
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19:36.30sannsealways :)
19:39.15kd3ya, I'm gonna have to concur. it's a little better, though
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19:40.55zealer.. *thirded
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20:04.34zealhard to do mass editing like this : /
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20:29.36Gourragrr timeouts
20:29.58zealthis is getting pathetic
20:34.45Gourraall the time
20:35.56zealsquid dead
20:36.10zealwho's for calamari?
20:38.32Zealit's wikia wide
20:38.36Zealso, fun fun
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20:42.35Gourraeh I don't like seafood
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20:48.06kd3whee. DDoS
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20:51.14*** topic/#wowwiki by kd3 -> Chan rules: - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || We are an Alexa top 1000 website! || We hit 3 million pageviews per day! || Wikia's getting DDoSed. fix soon
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20:52.35fandyllicis WoWWiki down for anyone else?
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20:55.02fandyllicoh, i see... DDoSed
20:55.17fandyllicthat sux
20:55.33Zealand hey fandy.
20:55.35fandyllicwhen i log in a big blob of text goes by and sometimes i don't parse
20:56.13Zeali'm doubtful of a DDoS, as this has been getting progressively worse for weeks.
20:56.42fandyllicso you think its a server bug?
20:57.08kd3there's other server issues but wikia's actively getting DDoSed right now from what I've been hearing
20:57.21fandyllici didn't think to check when wowwiki went down, since often the problems have been independent
20:57.36Zealfrom the wikia chan? yeah i'm in there too. it's just an idea is what i got.
20:58.19Zeala squid server was playing up, and then they got a huge increase of traffic.
20:58.34pcjwow, squid sucks. big surprise
20:58.42fandyllicwhat the heck is squid?
20:58.57Zeala caching server
20:59.00MentalPowera cahe
20:59.12kd3caching proxy. that way something other than the wiki itself generates the main page each and every time someone types in
20:59.15fandyllici see
21:01.09fandyllicdoes wikia use unix/linux servers or windows?
21:01.34kd3I'd assume they're linux boxen
21:02.01fandyllicyeah, but you never know... alot of mixed environments
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21:04.32fandyllicdarn, now i gott see what that is
21:05.02fandyllici see nothing
21:05.18Adysi dont know if it works somewhere else than in firefox
21:05.30fandyllicusing firefox
21:05.38fandyllicis there something you have to turn on?
21:05.45Adysfirefox 3*
21:06.23fandyllicahh, should have known... haven't upgraded yet
21:07.06pcjfirefox 3 release?
21:07.14KasoBasshunter No.1 in UK for a second week running >.< what is the world coming to
21:07.33Zealffs : /
21:07.38Zealdamn you sweland
21:07.50fandyllicFF3 beta 2
21:07.55Adyspcj, beta 2 or 3pre
21:07.58Kasosweland,  i like that
21:08.06PanSolameeting chat at #wikia-gaming has started
21:08.21pcjis it fairly stable
21:08.25KasoWhen is FF3 scedualed to be released?
21:09.06Adysbeta3 coming through february seems to be back, but still slow
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21:40.19Sky2042Zeal: i disagree with the names ;(
21:42.11Sky2042Personally think "WoWWiki" should be top category
21:42.35Zealthats what i said to kirkburn
21:42.38Zealbut he said no
21:43.01Zeali didn't like "Browse", so went with "Root"
21:43.19Sky2042and, you can do the trees so much easier using bullets
21:43.26Sky2042don't mind if i edit it, do you?
21:43.33Zeali do :p
21:43.40Zeali'm editing this in notepad++
21:43.57Zealso, was easier for me to switch back and forth.
21:46.17Sky2042that's so silly, not to use the existing category structure. but w/e.
21:46.28Sky2042and redirecting cats is a bad idea zeal
21:47.42Zeali know, i would have gone through and moved them as i was going
21:48.05Zealbut with wikia dying, i've stopped half finished, hence why i went into notepad and started writing it up.
21:48.30Sky2042speaking of which, [[WW:CAT]] says lower case.
21:49.02Sky2042fandyllic: o_o
21:49.19Zealand the reason i'm not using alot of them, is because they are generic names that would cause conflicts, and the existing structure especially with lore, was a completely illogical web of links.
21:49.33fandyllicoh well, i guess i will actually go _play wow_ rather than editing a wiki about it ;-)
21:49.51Sky2042shit. who would have thunk to do that?!
21:49.53Zeali'm not stuck on name,s just wanted to get the structure seperated where needed and a flow back to root.
21:50.02Zeallol fandy, hf :p
21:50.27Sky2042i should go play some dota or somethin :/
21:50.39Sky2042or go buy an ethernet cord...
21:50.41fandyllicif some wowwiki admin wants to put a note on the main page or village pump about wikia woes, it would be appreciated
21:50.56Sky2042in general or today?
21:51.18fandyllictoday for now
21:51.53Zeallol, kk.
21:52.18Sky2042that's the 2nd time i've seen him on irc...
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21:52.35Sky2042and i want to kill kirkburn... :/
21:52.54Adysif it makes you feel better kirkburn wants to kill you too
21:53.05Sky2042usually does. any particular reason atm?
21:53.12Adysno just saying
21:53.21kd3let's just have a mexican standoff and all kill each other. loads of fun, that
21:53.30Sky2042poncho villa like?
21:55.07Sky2042gd the place in my house where i am :(
21:56.08Zealprobably wants to kill me for reverting him twice.
21:56.25Zeal[[Forum trackers]] [[Forum tracker]]
21:56.25[NewsBot]Zeal meant:
21:56.41Sky2042should all be at [[forum tracker]].
21:56.52Zealnope ;)
21:57.04Sky2042no reason not to have all the content on one page.
21:57.30Sky2042to afsd!
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21:57.51Sky2042if it'll load... hmm
21:57.53Zealit was all at forum tracker, a definition, and a list. pcj suggested for move to forum trackers because its a list, so i split it accordingly to follow policy. forum tracker is the definition of the term, forum trackers (which should be deleted imo) is the list.
21:58.44Sky2042there's no policy, except for the plurality policy, which states a split is needed...
21:59.03Zealthe policy states different naming for different content types
21:59.11Zealthose content types should never exist together anyway
21:59.16Zealso i split them,
21:59.28Zealto keep them together, they follow one policy, but fail the other.
21:59.44Zeallists are plural, definitions are singular. that's the policy.
21:59.56Sky2042news to me...
22:00.36Zealforum tracker could do with a few more sentances and examples, but that's about it.
22:00.41Sky2042anyway, will brb. resetting internet
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22:01.48Sky2042_maybe it will be better now...
22:01.55Zealhm.. fandy restored the cat to {{speculation}} :)
22:03.11Sky2042and what's DDoSed?
22:03.16Sky2042kd3: ?
22:03.46Sky2042I <3 Talyor series... not.
22:04.10Zealdistributed denial of service
22:05.09Adys~wikipedis ddos
22:05.29Sky2042will bbl. my net sucks here :/
22:05.34Adys~wikipedia ddos
22:06.10Zeal*le sigh
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22:14.30Gourraverrrrrry slow wiki
22:14.55Adysyou cant rush art you big crybaby!
22:16.11Gourra.. huh ?
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22:20.00Zealwikifying is an artform :P
22:25.59Zealmust.. not.. laugh.. at.. crap.. jokes..
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22:26.32Adysits not a great strip
22:26.38Adysits just a good line
22:26.42Adys :D
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22:36.17Zealbah, not having any luck at all atm : /
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22:46.08kd3huh, when'd we switch away from google ads to "shopzilla"?
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23:32.41Hobinheimis Dotted here?
23:35.35Adyshob :D
23:35.35Hobinheimwhat software do you use to power the rss bots here
23:35.37Hobinheimi hear they're yours
23:35.51Hobinheimi would like to sample your... powers.
23:36.09Adyswhichever one he uses dont use it it sucks!
23:36.42Dottedmirc sucks for bots
23:37.50Hobinheimidd is the name?
23:37.57Hobinheimi don't wanna code my own :(
23:38.56Dotteddownload mirc from and load that script in it and you are set
23:39.09Dottedbut mirc still sucks for bots
23:39.29Hobinheimhow come
23:39.34sacarasceggdrops are almost ok for bots
23:39.41Hobinheimi don't see any middle ground between that and making my own
23:39.43Hobinheimdoes mirc work on mac
23:40.12sacarascmaybe with whatever the mac version of wine is
23:44.53Dottedmirc doesnt work natively on a mac
23:45.22Dottedso if you are on a mac, you are on your own - or atleast i cant help you :P
23:46.02sacarasc <-- eggdrop on mac <-- rss scripts for eggdrops ;p
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