00:01.02 | Zeal | wowwiki, amazingly :p |
00:01.14 | kd3 | joy |
00:01.54 | Adriand | Could you answer a quick question for me real fast about IRC |
00:02.00 | kd3 | shoot |
00:02.18 | Adriand | Ok so I saw that there are realm channels, how would I connect to one? |
00:03.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
00:03.11 | kd3 | so, for example, one of my old guilds channels was on quakenet. I would've typed /server irc.quakenet,net and then /join #fury |
00:03.26 | kd3 | s/net,/net./ |
00:03.39 | Adriand | So I would have to find the server name for auchindoun? |
00:03.59 | kd3 | check your realm forums or its page on the wiki |
00:04.18 | kd3 | irc's totally unrelated to wow servers, there are a bunch of irc networks that have wow guild/realm channels |
00:04.33 | Adriand | ic thank you so much |
00:04.37 | kd3 | no prob |
00:04.47 | Adriand | <PROTECTED> |
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00:05.13 | Zeal | lamesurge :/ |
00:05.19 | kd3 | you'll probably want to connect to "irc.gamesurge.net" rather than www. |
00:06.28 | Adriand | thanks I think I found it |
00:08.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Riding around Northrend - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/03/riding-around-northrend/ |
00:09.15 | kd3 | hm. I wonder if we can change {{queststartfinish}} to an interrobang rather than a ! and a ? |
00:11.45 | Kirkburn | kd3, ooh, I like that idea |
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00:20.47 | BraveFoot | Does anyone know where the page for the druid ability Maul went |
00:22.35 | Zeal | i suspect it was moved |
00:22.49 | Zeal | or some nub deleted it and created the maul item in it's place. |
00:22.56 | Zeal | where too, i dunno. |
00:23.06 | Zeal | theres no disambig on [[Maul]] : / |
00:23.11 | Zeal | which needs to be fixed. |
00:23.41 | pcj | [[Maul (ability)]] |
00:23.42 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Maul_(ability) |
00:23.43 | pcj | brb |
00:24.04 | Zeal | was jsut about to link it ffs ;/ |
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00:27.20 | foxlit | Maul (ability) -> Maul |
00:29.31 | Zeal | edit conflicts are so much fun, no? |
00:30.07 | Zeal | returned as a lootlink, great.. |
00:30.33 | Zeal | anyways, nn all |
00:32.18 | Bagginsww | so ya I was readjusting the sheets on my bed in the dorm, and there is a bag of white powder under my mattress... |
00:32.38 | kd3 | woo coke |
00:32.52 | Bagginsww | My thoughts as well, :p |
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00:34.33 | BraveFoot | oops, I kinda sorta replaced the new maul with a disambig page because the maul (ability) page was still there |
00:34.40 | BraveFoot | You might want to revet it |
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00:35.05 | Bagginsww | I'd only create a disambig page if there was like three different mauls ;) |
00:35.24 | Bagginsww | and at least two were very important :p |
00:35.48 | BraveFoot | Ya, my bad |
00:35.50 | DuTempete | Baggins... when did you start doing coke?! |
00:36.06 | Bagginsww | I like coke classic |
00:36.10 | Bagginsww | that's about it ;) |
00:36.25 | foxlit | BraveFoot: don't worry about it :) |
00:36.39 | Bagginsww | so ya, uh "Dire Maul" |
00:36.45 | Bagginsww | Maul, and Maul :p |
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00:37.35 | kd3 | who the hell refers to DM as "Maul"? |
00:37.51 | Bagginsww | I don't but did you know there are like 60 mauls in the game |
00:37.58 | Bagginsww | http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=maul |
00:38.14 | Bagginsww | that's significant :p |
00:38.15 | foxlit | And they each have a proper name :) |
00:38.40 | Bagginsww | well it just means that we could toss in the definition of a maul |
00:38.45 | Bagginsww | real world definition |
00:38.52 | Bagginsww | and list them all on one page :p |
00:38.58 | Bagginsww | links to them I mean |
00:39.22 | Bagginsww | ok not 60 mauls, more like 15 at the most |
00:39.30 | Bagginsww | "warmaul" doesn't count :p |
00:39.37 | Bagginsww | nor mauler |
00:39.38 | kd3 | huh. the armory says there's a s2 maul but not a s3 one. |
00:39.46 | Bagginsww | or stonemaul :p |
00:40.09 | foxlit | Not a dictionary :) |
00:40.25 | Bagginsww | Wonders what I find if I search for maul in the rpg :p |
00:40.43 | Bagginsww | probably something similar to the dictionary definition :p |
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00:43.18 | Sky2042_afk | lol, Kirkburn |
00:43.26 | Sky2042_afk | 383 days until the nightmare finally ends... |
00:43.36 | Sky2042_afk | from the front page of rationalwiki |
00:43.40 | Sky2042_afk | too funny |
00:44.35 | Kirkburn | :) |
00:45.15 | foxlit | oh fs |
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00:54.07 | Lukian | is wowwiki planning on indexing npc's at some point? |
00:56.35 | foxlit | Aren't we already? |
00:56.45 | Sky2042_afk | Lukian: indexing?... |
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01:02.34 | Lukian | automatically adding them all :) |
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01:13.26 | Bagginsww | you know people say "vampires don't exist in warcraft" |
01:13.40 | Bagginsww | but for that term to even be used it has to at least exist in their legends :p |
01:13.55 | Bagginsww | I mean "vampiric embrace" "vampiric aura", etc |
01:14.00 | Bagginsww | Vampire bats :p |
01:14.53 | Pzyk | nathrezim? |
01:15.22 | Sky2042_afk | ^ |
01:15.23 | Bagginsww | also true |
01:15.41 | Sky2042_afk | nathrezim would be the vampires of WoW, I think. as that's also where the term originated; with the aura |
01:15.55 | Bagginsww | ahh haw, "The subject’s natural weapon is imbued with the |
01:15.55 | Bagginsww | essence of a vampire. Her natural attacks give life |
01:15.55 | Bagginsww | back to her." |
01:16.12 | Bagginsww | M&M |
01:16.22 | Bagginsww | a vampire eh |
01:16.54 | Bagginsww | feels like creating the vampire article and discussing all known vampires ;) |
01:17.06 | Bagginsww | vampire bats, nathrezim etc |
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01:19.56 | Bagginsww | Brann calls worgen were-wolves at least once I think |
01:20.04 | Bagginsww | so we know that term exists as well |
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01:23.07 | Sky2042_afk | helooooooooo |
01:23.17 | foxlit | heluuuuu? |
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01:24.56 | foxlit | ~botmail |
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01:28.53 | Arideni | Sky2042_afk: Hello^_^ |
01:29.17 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lo%27Gosh even if it is speculation, it may be very true, so I think we should avoid "spoiling" the secret for anyone who isn't paying attention |
01:29.28 | pcj | !jobqueue |
01:29.30 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 6743 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1hr 52mins 23secs. |
01:30.27 | Bagginsww | btw the comic says Lo'Gosh means ghost wolf? |
01:30.42 | Bagginsww | that needs to be added to orcish with the citation if so |
01:33.23 | foxlit | Hey |
01:33.27 | foxlit | How can speculation be a spoiler? |
01:34.09 | foxlit | http://xkcd.com/109/ |
01:34.14 | Bagginsww | well we need an actually "maybe a spoiler" |
01:34.30 | Bagginsww | the flashback material is somewhat spoiler material |
01:34.38 | Bagginsww | *may contain spoilers |
01:34.51 | foxlit | It's only a spoiler if it's actually correct |
01:35.01 | Bagginsww | thus why we need a "may contain spoiilers" |
01:35.08 | Bagginsww | *spoilers |
01:35.17 | foxlit | No, speculation covers it |
01:35.43 | foxlit | "If this is correct, and I'm not sure if it is, the content below may be new and original" |
01:37.25 | pcj | baggins did the [[Rastakhan]] problem get fixed |
01:38.13 | Bagginsww | well the problem is more along the lines that "races" might be too much of a term |
01:38.23 | Bagginsww | for example if you say Night elf zombie |
01:38.26 | pcj | ...what should it say then |
01:38.33 | Bagginsww | its more of a description than plural |
01:38.47 | Bagginsww | so race would be a better term |
01:38.54 | pcj | OK |
01:38.58 | pcj | What about Race(s) |
01:39.04 | Bagginsww | ya that's better |
01:39.19 | Bagginsww | at least it can be singular |
01:40.15 | Bagginsww | maybe I should just move the spoiler warning to the top of the whole artilc,e ;) |
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01:48.02 | BraveFoot | Wow, newbot can do one job every 0 seconds, that's pretty crazy |
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02:08.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Well Fed Buff: Sideways Snowman - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/03/well-fed-buff-sideways-snowman/ |
02:12.45 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Free Character Moves, Daily Blue, German S2 mount, Clay Doll - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-9970-1.html |
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02:19.51 | Kirkburn | BraveFoot, that's the wiki's queue, [NewsBot] is just telling us about it :P |
02:19.56 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
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02:20.09 | Kirkburn | Hey, who increased it? ;) |
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02:50.11 | Bagginsww | PCJ I think I should be putting this page on your name space, :p |
02:50.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Great_Sea_expansion_pack_ideas/Classes ;) |
02:50.21 | pcj | no |
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02:50.46 | Bagginsww | I'd suggest tieing it to the [[class ideas]] page rather than great sea |
02:50.55 | Bagginsww | we are trying to do away with fan fic from great sea page |
02:51.29 | Bagginsww | and this means clean up of all fanfic from pretty much any idea page |
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03:21.54 | Bagginsww | So should the article be "Stonehoof tribe" or "Stonehoof tauren"? |
03:22.08 | Bagginsww | with the later you avoid the whole clan vs tribe conundrum |
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03:43.37 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
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03:58.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hero_class |
03:59.13 | Bagginsww | point of note I doubt any classes that require what is a profession in WoW like alchemy or engineering, wil everl become a hero class. |
03:59.22 | Bagginsww | *will ever |
04:00.08 | Bagginsww | like Apothecary or dark apothecary |
04:00.37 | Bagginsww | tinker is likely too close to engineer |
04:26.38 | DuTempete|HL2 | !wwstats |
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04:34.37 | pcj | hi DuTempete :) |
04:34.54 | DuTempete | hi pcj :P |
04:35.01 | pcj | :\ |
04:35.03 | Fisker- | worktiem |
04:38.49 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: WotLK in PCZone, 2v2 queues, blue posts - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=3305.0 |
04:41.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Horde icons are cute and all but maybe we should avoid inserting them into paragraphs... |
04:42.23 | Bagginsww | I mean would you do such a thing on a written report? |
04:55.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Haneth scantily clad official picture dutempete, ;) |
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04:55.59 | DuTempete | ooooh |
04:56.38 | DuTempete | oh, that's not *too* bad |
04:56.51 | DuTempete | the crotch cleavage is a little much, though |
04:58.53 | Bagginsww | well that was part I was referring to |
04:59.04 | Bagginsww | upper half is more or less covered |
04:59.48 | Bagginsww | Image:Trant.jpg |
04:59.48 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
05:00.08 | Bagginsww | note how he holds the woman in the lost screenshot I gave you :) |
05:01.24 | pcj | k |
05:02.06 | DuTempete | [[Image:Trant.jpg]] |
05:02.06 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Trant.jpg |
05:03.12 | DuTempete | looks to me like he's holding her *back* Bagginsww |
05:03.22 | Bagginsww | and her arm |
05:03.32 | DuTempete | that's what I mean |
05:03.54 | Bagginsww | He's just pretty up close and tight to her. Reminds me of Dirk holding the princess in Dragon's Lair |
05:04.06 | zZzDuTempete | well, I'm sleepy ;) |
05:04.43 | pcj | k |
05:05.38 | zZzDuTempete | inight night pcj |
05:05.46 | zZzDuTempete | and bagginsww |
05:05.49 | zZzDuTempete | and everyone |
05:05.50 | pcj | night DuTempete :) |
05:06.00 | zZzDuTempete | and my sweet Kirkburn|sleep |
05:06.02 | Bagginsww | gnight |
05:34.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Eye_of_Dalaran |
05:38.42 | Pzyk | ? |
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07:40.43 | Sky2042_afk | killing tlink feels good. |
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07:58.19 | Bagginsww | killing it? |
07:58.27 | Bagginsww | what do we use instead? |
07:59.11 | Sky2042_afk | {{t}} |
07:59.12 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:t |
07:59.49 | Bagginsww | oh I use t its easier |
08:10.25 | Sky2042_afk | Zurr: you on? |
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08:15.03 | Lukian | where can I read about stats caps? |
08:15.13 | Sky2042_afk | Lukian: stats caps? |
08:15.22 | Lukian | like 75% cap on armour etc. |
08:15.26 | Lukian | ie. what else has a cap |
08:15.40 | Sky2042_afk | not that I know of :/ |
08:16.17 | Lukian | nothing? :o |
08:16.28 | Sky2042_afk | nope. not all in one place. |
08:16.34 | Lukian | ah right |
08:24.40 | Lukian | is this an error? |
08:24.40 | Lukian | http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table |
08:24.44 | Lukian | Example 4 |
08:24.54 | Lukian | Defense 490 (which adds +5.6% to his base 5% chance to be missed |
08:25.01 | Lukian | Miss 10.00% 0.01 - 10.00 |
08:25.09 | Lukian | shouldn't that be 10.60%? |
08:26.06 | Lukian | Dodge chance 10.2%.. the table to the right, again says 9.60% |
08:26.17 | Lukian | did someone fail writing this example? :) |
08:26.30 | Sky2042_afk | example might be old too. |
08:27.30 | Lukian | Should I edit it? Someone can always revert if my assumptions are wrong |
08:27.57 | Sky2042_afk | feel free to. |
08:28.02 | Sky2042_afk | [[WW:BOLD]] |
08:28.02 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:BOLD |
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08:32.58 | Lukian | ah it's explained there |
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08:33.17 | Lukian | because the boss is +3 levels, it in turn gains 0.6% chance to hit |
08:33.46 | Sky2042_afk | well, there you have it |
08:33.48 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
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08:49.16 | Sky2042_afk | oops |
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08:49.44 | Sky2042_afk | damn redirects |
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08:59.43 | Sky2042_afk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=86845589&sid=1 |
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09:08.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:ShadeOfAranChant.ogg |
09:08.58 | Bagginsww | LOL it was easy to add the silly category :p |
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09:09.25 | Bagginsww | people jump to the "delete" bandwagon when there are such easy ways around it :p |
09:09.51 | Sky2042_afk | have you listened to it? |
09:10.09 | Sky2042_afk | the last verse especially. |
09:10.43 | Bagginsww | ya its perfect |
09:10.58 | Bagginsww | I've been there, and know about the nasty ring |
09:11.01 | Sky2042_afk | the suspensions in the last one... heavenly |
09:11.04 | Bagginsww | I've never personally set it off |
09:11.09 | Bagginsww | but I've been killed by it LOL |
09:11.11 | Bagginsww | ya |
09:11.42 | Sky2042_afk | i'm not sure if i've ever asked you, but have you done any sort of music theory work? |
09:11.46 | Bagginsww | Wonders if he/they are a chanter in a professional group |
09:11.50 | Bagginsww | no |
09:12.06 | Sky2042_afk | see the thread i linked right above it. |
09:12.12 | Sky2042_afk | i don't think he says he is. |
09:12.43 | Bagginsww | maybe he just has a big fan of gregorian chant :p |
09:13.12 | Sky2042_afk | it's not gregorian chant. |
09:13.15 | Bagginsww | ahh |
09:13.22 | Sky2042_afk | it's just stacking the chord in 3rds. |
09:13.39 | Bagginsww | ahh, it sounds like medieval chant of some kind. |
09:13.42 | Sky2042_afk | root, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th (2nd), 4th, 6th suspension |
09:13.50 | Sky2042_afk | because there's so many tones |
09:13.51 | ecs | this thing rocks |
09:13.58 | ecs | repeat ftw |
09:14.08 | Sky2042_afk | there's a ytmnd so you don't have to repeat |
09:14.10 | Bagginsww | anycase he sounds very experienced |
09:15.26 | ecs | http://firemawchant.ytmnd.com/ |
09:15.32 | Zeal | agree with you on the mass mess of icons in paragraphs Bagginsww : / |
09:15.44 | Zeal | but kill the spoiler template plx :p |
09:15.48 | Bagginsww | ya, its cheesay as hell |
09:17.51 | Sky2042_afk | Zeal: kill spoiler template plx? |
09:17.53 | Sky2042_afk | huh? |
09:18.53 | Zeal | had the discussion before. can't stand spoiler disclaimers on informational/encylopedic sites. |
09:19.01 | Sky2042_afk | neither can I =) |
09:19.18 | Sky2042_afk | and neither could like 3 users on WP, so they removed them there through the use of a semiautomated editing program |
09:19.32 | Zeal | rofl |
09:19.41 | Sky2042_afk | there were something like 45k tags |
09:19.45 | Sky2042_afk | which is a lot to remove. |
09:19.54 | Zeal | indeed |
09:20.31 | Sky2042_afk | I wonder if I can dig up the arbcom case, or maybe it was rfc :/ |
09:21.49 | ecs | you know what i'm going to be in my head all night while i dream? |
09:22.02 | ecs | "I will not move when flame wraeth is cast or the raid blows up" |
09:22.12 | Zeal | hehe |
09:22.13 | Sky2042_afk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Spoiler prolly has what is needed |
09:22.17 | Sky2042_afk | and in the archives |
09:22.31 | ecs | i need it to get nice and deep in my subconscious |
09:22.35 | Zeal | can't beleive people did that in my raids. was only when i was forced to recruit nubs : / |
09:22.40 | ecs | so maybe i should put it on my ipod and play it all night... |
09:30.58 | Zeal | i still hate aran for killing my pet with arcane missles multiple times (3 times in a fight once) : / |
09:31.11 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
09:31.20 | Sky2042_afk | lrn2notgeneratethreatnub |
09:31.52 | Zeal | er.. you can't aggro him |
09:31.54 | Zeal | it;s random |
09:32.56 | Sky2042_afk | well, lrn2notgithit |
09:32.58 | Sky2042_afk | duh! |
09:33.12 | Zeal | lol |
09:34.13 | Lukian | wow, I need to pull out 15% across dodge, parry or block if I want to be uncrusable on my loladin |
09:34.53 | Sky2042_afk | yeah, i just finished deprecating {{tlink}} using that same semi-automatic program. |
09:35.00 | Sky2042_afk | and then I deleted {{t}} |
09:35.01 | Sky2042_afk | :D |
09:35.14 | Zeal | ffs, i hate videos that have a seek capable bar but can't seek.. |
09:35.26 | Sky2042_afk | qft |
09:35.33 | Zeal | deleted {{t}} huh? :P |
09:35.50 | Sky2042_afk | yeah, it's prolly what got the jobqueue so high |
09:35.52 | Sky2042_afk | !jobqueue |
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09:36.21 | Zeal | huh? {{t}} is still there. why would you want to delete it? :S |
09:36.24 | Sky2042_afk | or possibly pcj's edit to npcbox |
09:36.33 | Sky2042_afk | tlink was an rd to t. |
09:36.45 | Sky2042_afk | i clicked on tlink... |
09:36.47 | Sky2042_afk | xD |
09:36.56 | Zeal | ah |
09:37.00 | Zeal | nub, lol |
09:37.31 | Sky2042_afk | adys or gryphen did it once before. |
09:37.33 | Sky2042_afk | heh |
09:38.04 | Zeal | hm.. never fallen through a bg before like that, since when does it put you back into the sky? :S |
09:38.32 | Zeal | talking about http://blizzplanet.com/news/1979/ btw |
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09:38.56 | Zeal | hey Adys |
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10:01.17 | Sky2042_afk | night all |
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14:10.22 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/FLT :| |
14:16.50 | Pzyk | lol? |
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14:23.01 | pcj | ~ding |
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16:05.11 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22+If+you+have+enough+time+for+the+final+stage,%22&filter=0 |
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16:07.11 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/The_true_lord |
16:09.14 | zZzDuTempete | bet it's another version of Admin6 |
16:09.22 | zZzDuTempete | and good morning ;) |
16:09.37 | pcj | hi DuTempete :) |
16:09.43 | pcj | yeah that's what i commented on violations |
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16:15.51 | pcj | I'm wondering if we should have a comprehensive list like http://www.wowwiki.com/Twink_guilds |
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16:17.31 | DuTempete | list of what, though? |
16:17.49 | pcj | No, I mean, should we really have a comprehensive list of twink guilds |
16:18.15 | DuTempete | I don't think it's inappropriate. |
16:18.22 | pcj | But hard to keep up-to-date |
16:18.31 | pcj | It's obviously never going to be complete |
16:18.43 | DuTempete | If someone finds it useful, then it's got a purpose. |
16:18.49 | DuTempete | so? |
16:19.06 | DuTempete | Server pages are just the same. |
16:19.23 | pcj | Yes, but more maintainable |
16:20.13 | pcj | Meh |
16:20.25 | DuTempete | If we were to start deleting pages because they are "hard to keep up to date" we might as well not have a wiki at all... |
16:20.39 | Pzyk | not really |
16:20.51 | Pzyk | pages shouldn't contain things that are high maintenance |
16:20.59 | pcj | lol http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Paladin&curid=12746&diff=1104900&oldid=1052943&rcid=1026823 |
16:21.01 | DuTempete | why not? |
16:21.17 | Pzyk | [[WW:GUILD]] I think? |
16:21.17 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:GUILD |
16:21.29 | DuTempete | lol pcj |
16:22.19 | DuTempete | That's a guild page, pzyk |
16:22.31 | DuTempete | and by frequently, I think they mean more like once a day or more. |
16:23.05 | DuTempete | you're talking about [[WW:GUILD#Not allowed]] |
16:23.07 | DuTempete | right? |
16:23.11 | Pzyk | well if we're going to apply it to the twink page |
16:23.14 | Pzyk | yeah |
16:23.26 | Pzyk | at most it should be on the server pages, instead of all on one page. |
16:23.29 | DuTempete | well, lets get some admin input, here |
16:23.39 | DuTempete | Kikrburn foxlit kd3 ping! |
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16:23.49 | foxlit | pong |
16:24.16 | DuTempete | eeeek Kalroth! |
16:24.26 | Kalroth | Harro Doooo! |
16:24.30 | DuTempete | a bit... |
16:24.51 | DuTempete | I was going to say "Neener." after that, but now it won't have the same effect... |
16:25.13 | foxlit | so what's that input thing? |
16:25.15 | DuTempete | Any thoughts on the discussion, foxlit? |
16:25.48 | DuTempete | about the list of twink guilds |
16:26.05 | foxlit | Whether or not [[Twink_guilds]] is sustainable? |
16:26.08 | DuTempete | things that are "hard to update" |
16:26.26 | DuTempete | and what sort of frequency of updating do we consider too often? |
16:26.41 | DuTempete | s/too often//too often// |
16:26.56 | DuTempete | boo |
16:27.05 | DuTempete | won't insert forward slashes :( |
16:27.13 | Pzyk | well a list of guilds wouldn't really have to be updated too often |
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16:27.43 | foxlit | I'd presume it would only be updated in one direction |
16:28.01 | Pzyk | but I think the better question is whether a list containing guilds across every realm is really needed |
16:28.24 | DuTempete | na, things would be added and removed |
16:28.35 | Pzyk | It's probably be better served by splitting it up by server, or by battlegroup, if that's the author's intention |
16:28.43 | DuTempete | pxyk, just because yo don't find it useful doesn't mean there aren't a great number of people who do. |
16:29.07 | DuTempete | No, pzyk, the author's intention is to meet on PTR, as it states. |
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16:29.38 | foxlit | DuTempete: who could be arsed to remove anything? |
16:29.52 | Pzyk | ah, I just looked over the page in full |
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16:30.01 | Pzyk | I thought it was just a list, but it's more like a bulletin board |
16:30.09 | pcj | that's the problem i saw with it foxlit |
16:30.18 | specbeans | random question - but does anyone know if druids hibernate is broken by beastial wrath? |
16:30.22 | DuTempete | 'tis true foxlit |
16:30.35 | DuTempete | but again, that's the same issue one has on a server page |
16:30.50 | foxlit | Bestial wrath makes the pet immune to cc |
16:30.50 | pcj | Nah, people on the server are more likely to maintain it |
16:30.54 | Pzyk | can you activate beastial wrath if your pet is polied? |
16:30.54 | DuTempete | no idea, specbeans. Have you asked in #wowhead? |
16:30.55 | foxlit | I don't think it actually breaks it |
16:30.59 | Pzyk | polyed* |
16:31.11 | specbeans | foxlit, im talking about hibernating the pet. then he pops beastial wrath |
16:31.17 | specbeans | will the wrath break the pet out of sleep? |
16:31.32 | Pzyk | I don't think so, but I'm not sure |
16:31.34 | DuTempete | one can hibernate a hunter pet? |
16:31.35 | foxlit | foxlit: Bestial wrath makes the pet immune to cc |
16:31.41 | foxlit | foxlit: I don't think it actually breaks it |
16:31.53 | DuTempete | an, immunity is not the same as breaking sp[ecbeans |
16:32.11 | foxlit | And I'm not sure if it can be activated while the pet is CCed |
16:32.13 | specbeans | my alt boomkin is gonna duel someones alt hunter. and hes flipping BM. so im trying to come up with some sort of tactic to beat him :P |
16:32.28 | foxlit | melee range, problem solvecd |
16:32.35 | specbeans | best thing i come up with is stealth, sleep the pet and run up close to the hunter |
16:32.38 | DuTempete | lol |
16:32.48 | Pzyk | not worth it imo |
16:32.50 | DuTempete | ignore the pet and whoop his ass |
16:32.55 | Pzyk | no pushback resist on hibernate |
16:32.59 | specbeans | hes BM, you cant really ignore the pet tbh |
16:33.03 | foxlit | Pets hurt more than hunters |
16:33.15 | specbeans | his pet is gonna whoop my ass more than him |
16:33.15 | DuTempete | stealth? as boomkin? |
16:33.22 | specbeans | cat form? |
16:33.24 | foxlit | shadowmeld |
16:33.28 | specbeans | tauren ^ |
16:33.41 | foxlit | You can barkskin if you wanted to, but BM would probably be procced before you finished casting hibernate |
16:33.45 | DuTempete | that's the point, specbeans he's weak. |
16:34.05 | DuTempete | shadowmeld is only when standing still, anyway, foxlit :P |
16:34.22 | foxlit | Doesn't stop me from using it :) |
16:34.36 | DuTempete | and my point about boomkin, specbeans, is that you are your spec. Use it to its advantage. |
16:35.06 | DuTempete | Using abilities you aren't spec'd for can make you weaker. |
16:35.28 | specbeans | well, hes a bit of a nab, so im gonna go boomkin, hope it pops BM and then cat form and stealth for the duration of BM |
16:35.43 | specbeans | if not, i want to stealth, and then hibernate while hes stood there, before he has chance to see me/pop bm |
16:35.53 | DuTempete | doesn't hurt to give it a shot, of course :P |
16:35.56 | specbeans | then boomkin form, get up close and start pounding him |
16:36.01 | foxlit | That won't work |
16:36.20 | Pzyk | huntersmark |
16:36.27 | foxlit | Pets chase you through your stealth, and you're likely to be in combat before you can stealth |
16:37.09 | Pzyk | the only way that'll work is if the duel range is really huge and you can out run him until BW is over |
16:37.18 | Pzyk | but it's too small for something like that |
16:37.37 | DuTempete | why would you try to outrun a hunter? |
16:38.26 | specbeans | well the idea was, go boomkin as the duel countdown goes. and then hope he doexs think of catform and pop bm read |
16:38.32 | specbeans | and then i can stealth before the duel starts |
16:38.36 | specbeans | and he wastes BM |
16:38.50 | DuTempete | pcj, why don't you put up a discussion point on that page's talk page about the validity of its existence? |
16:38.53 | specbeans | if you get my drift |
16:39.31 | Pzyk | is your friend stupid? |
16:39.33 | Pzyk | =/ |
16:39.39 | specbeans | on his hunter yes |
16:39.43 | specbeans | hes cocky too :P |
16:39.59 | specbeans | he often pops BM just before the duel starts, trying to kill me in as little time as poss |
16:40.00 | Pzyk | requires a lot of faith in his stupidity to pull that off |
16:40.06 | specbeans | lmao it does |
16:40.48 | Pzyk | =/ |
16:41.03 | Pzyk | still don't get why anyone would do it before the duel starts |
16:41.09 | specbeans | but its in the same thing if he doesnt use beastial wrath |
16:41.17 | specbeans | ill stealth and then get a bit of distance |
16:41.22 | specbeans | and hibernate the pet and then work him |
16:41.37 | specbeans | gives me a chance to get him before his pet gets onto me |
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16:42.22 | DuTempete | hiya clad :) |
16:42.38 | cladhaire_ | hi |
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16:44.10 | foxlit | Interesting |
16:45.47 | specbeans | so if anyone has any advice / tips, feel free to share :P |
16:46.06 | foxlit | spam moonfire in his face |
16:46.17 | DuTempete | You know, I would ask MIyari about it in #wowhead. She plays a druid, although I think resto. |
16:46.18 | foxlit | Of course, that only really works if you've got the +damage to back it up :) |
16:46.27 | DuTempete | lol |
16:46.45 | Pzyk | kek, I just pvp resto, and I hump the hunter with travel form. |
16:46.51 | Pzyk | it's fun. |
16:47.10 | specbeans | my boomkin is a nab really. 2 peices of glad gear. mostly blues. glad war staff |
16:47.30 | specbeans | his hunter isnt exactly geared but hes got a bit more glad stuff, and about 1.5k/2k more hp |
16:47.30 | foxlit | nab! |
16:47.34 | DuTempete | a nab? Is that the new imalgamation of newb? |
16:47.35 | Pzyk | wyrmhide or kodo? |
16:47.41 | specbeans | wyrmhide |
16:47.57 | specbeans | hes my alt, give me a break. im not a fan of honour grinding tbh |
16:48.09 | foxlit | arena grinding is where it's at :P |
16:48.30 | foxlit | What? I enjoy pvp in PvE gear! |
16:48.38 | Pzyk | I just buy my points. =/ |
16:48.49 | foxlit | 6k starfires really annoy some warriors |
16:49.08 | DuTempete | hehe |
16:49.42 | Pzyk | BGs are fun as ranged regardless of class. |
16:50.02 | DuTempete | I'm not too big into pvp :P |
16:50.21 | DuTempete | is it bad that I play a warlock on a pvp server, then? :P |
16:50.34 | Pzyk | sounds backwards. |
16:50.38 | DuTempete | hehe |
16:50.49 | DuTempete | If it was open pvp, I'd be more into it. |
16:51.02 | DuTempete | all these rules and restrictions just give it a sour taste to me. |
16:51.21 | DuTempete | besides, I only moved to this server because of my friends. |
16:51.26 | DuTempete | I'm really a carebear at heart. |
16:53.59 | DuTempete | hrmm... |
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16:55.17 | DuTempete | has anyone told Sandwichman how page reversion works? |
16:55.45 | pcj | why do you say that |
16:56.19 | DuTempete | I guess the first question to ask is... am I just not aware there's a way to revert w/o it bringing up the revert message? |
16:56.21 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Twink_guilds&diff=1055351&oldid=1055341 |
16:57.15 | Pzyk | revert message? |
16:57.33 | pcj | lol |
16:58.46 | DuTempete | hrmm |
16:59.17 | DuTempete | and this one too: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Illidan_Stormrage&diff=1100720&oldid=1100711 |
16:59.45 | DuTempete | it looks as if he did those manually... |
17:00.50 | DuTempete | [[User:The true lord]] has struck again :P |
17:00.50 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:The_true_lord |
17:00.52 | Pzyk | ooh |
17:00.56 | Pzyk | a nice read |
17:01.11 | Pzyk | "The black Temple, known as his headquarters where he performs twisted, bizarre sex games with his unlucky victims." |
17:01.27 | DuTempete | [[Special:Contributions/The true lord]] |
17:01.27 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/The_true_lord |
17:01.33 | DuTempete | hehe |
17:04.22 | Gourra | the loot part was kinda funny |
17:04.32 | DuTempete | lol |
17:05.13 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Welcome to the Jungle - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/04/wow-moviewatch-welcome-to-the-jungle/ |
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17:07.13 | Gourra | which of the two templates do you people prefer? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/2 |
17:07.27 | Gourra | zebra or no zebra look |
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17:08.14 | pcj | use class="alt" instead of style="background:#343437" |
17:09.40 | Gourra | yes, Sky said I should skip class="alt", but I used style="background:" and didn't change back |
17:09.50 | Gourra | so just ignore that part |
17:13.53 | Pzyk | zebra one would be preferred |
17:14.01 | Pzyk | if bolt of imbued netherweave wasn't two lines |
17:14.40 | Gourra | if it was one line it would be too wide, that's why |
17:15.24 | Pzyk | yeah |
17:15.25 | Gourra | damn you pjc, don't change my template without saying |
17:15.31 | Pzyk | but now it just throws it off |
17:15.39 | Gourra | hm yeah, I agree Pzyk |
17:15.59 | foxlit | Was that box ever a good idea? |
17:16.52 | Gourra | yes, as was agreed on the talk page: "Much neater than having the separate cloth and bolts templates.--Bluemage427" |
17:17.11 | Gourra | but please keep the discussion there |
17:17.47 | foxlit | On a _user_ talk page? |
17:18.19 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Gourra/Sandbox/2 |
17:18.20 | foxlit | I can't think of a scenario that'd make the list of cloth/bolt items on every cloth/bolt page useful |
17:18.25 | Gourra | that talk page |
17:19.31 | Gourra | have you even looked at the {{clothitems}} and {{clothbolts}} templates? |
17:19.39 | foxlit | Yes. |
17:19.41 | Pzyk | what are they needed for anyways? |
17:20.25 | Gourra | perhaps to make a comprehensive list of cloth and bolts in the game? |
17:20.30 | pcj | ... |
17:20.40 | pcj | That could just as easily be on its own page |
17:20.46 | foxlit | Categories |
17:20.48 | Pzyk | but do you really need those lists? |
17:20.58 | pcj | Ooh, that too |
17:21.02 | Gourra | That's not for me to decide, I just merged the lists |
17:21.15 | Pzyk | would a user need a direct link from say, linen cloth to spellcloth? |
17:22.13 | Gourra | I don't know, and that's not of my business, my idea was just a merge of the two templates |
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17:27.13 | TecnoBrat | Ads by Google |
17:27.13 | TecnoBrat | <PROTECTED> |
17:27.20 | TecnoBrat | ftw |
17:27.28 | Pzyk | o_O |
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17:32.40 | DuTempete | ok, foxlit... what's the xyntax to request an item's page be created? |
17:32.49 | DuTempete | s/xyntax/syntax/ |
17:34.01 | DuTempete | oh, foxlit is bye-bye :P |
17:34.10 | DuTempete | pcj knows, though, doesn't he! |
17:34.54 | DuTempete | Foxbot: help |
17:35.09 | pcj | {{User:Foxbot/UpdateItem|date=January 2008|tiponly=true|user=Pcj}} |
17:35.10 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/date=January_2008 |
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17:35.14 | pcj | NO |
17:35.22 | DuTempete | hehe |
17:36.05 | DuTempete | ok... not sure that makes any sense to me |
17:36.25 | DuTempete | I'll go read foxbot's page :P |
17:36.27 | pcj | date is the date you tagged it |
17:36.39 | pcj | only specify tiponly if you don't want the whole page updated |
17:36.43 | pcj | user is your wiki username |
17:36.45 | pcj | not too hard |
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17:38.36 | DuTempete | oh, that's for the page |
17:38.42 | DuTempete | I meant in IRC |
17:38.46 | pcj | lol |
17:39.13 | DuTempete | !item [sandbox] 32748 |
17:39.55 | pcj | !sup |
17:40.03 | pcj | Foxbot is bye-bye as well |
17:40.12 | DuTempete | lame... |
17:40.32 | pcj | !wikistats |
17:40.46 | DuTempete | !foxbotsucks |
17:40.47 | pcj | !trcount Template:Tooltip |
17:41.01 | DuTempete | !editcount biteme |
17:41.15 | pcj | heh |
17:41.50 | pcj | Yeap |
17:41.52 | DuTempete | lol |
17:43.09 | pcj | !wwstats |
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17:48.40 | DuTempete | [[Talk:Cleave/Analysis]] makes my head hurt... could someone else also look at it and tell me if they thing it belongs in Talk:Cleave or in a separate page on "On Next Hit"? |
17:48.41 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Cleave/Analysis |
17:48.57 | Pzyk | ? |
17:49.01 | DuTempete | I don't think it belongs where it's at, though. |
17:50.40 | pcj | It needs to be merged into the main Cleave article as much as possible |
17:51.43 | DuTempete | It also applies to Heroic Strike, according to the writer... |
17:51.54 | Pzyk | could split it evenly |
17:51.57 | pcj | Yeap |
17:52.10 | Pzyk | the numbers they use are atrocious though |
17:52.38 | Pzyk | should convert to a comparable fraction, rather than 1/4, 2/7, 7/22 and so on |
17:53.43 | DuTempete | On Next Hit does sound like something that should be its own page, though... |
17:54.19 | DuTempete | sadly, it doesn't look like anything at all mentions that those two abilities *are* on next hit |
17:54.40 | Pzyk | eh? |
17:54.53 | DuTempete | Heroic strike isn't an extra attack |
17:55.01 | DuTempete | it's a bonus to your *next* attack |
17:55.15 | Pzyk | basically meaning "on next hit" |
17:55.19 | DuTempete | yes |
17:55.43 | DuTempete | afaik, warriors are the only class with such abilities, though |
17:55.47 | Pzyk | druid |
17:55.54 | Pzyk | maul |
17:55.59 | Pzyk | [[Maul]] |
17:55.59 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Maul |
17:56.19 | DuTempete | would make sense |
17:56.55 | DuTempete | so... I guess my next question is why math on the phenomenon is necessary? |
17:58.33 | pcj | [[Bloodthirster's Wargreaves]] |
17:58.33 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Bloodthirster's_Wargreaves |
17:58.34 | pcj | missing icon |
17:58.37 | Pzyk | not sure |
17:58.45 | Gourra|away | on it pjc |
17:58.52 | Pzyk | I mean, they are for completely different purposes I think |
17:58.56 | DuTempete | I hate theorycrafters... :( |
17:59.00 | pcj | k thx grooua |
17:59.05 | Pzyk | the analysis is whether cleave or HS is better |
17:59.32 | DuTempete | I see, now |
17:59.43 | DuTempete | I had to take a break from reading that for a minute :P |
17:59.50 | Pzyk | obviously cleave is better when there are multiple mobs, and HS is for single mobs |
18:00.05 | Pzyk | which makes me wonder why anyone would want to analyze it. @_@ |
18:00.10 | Gourra | pjc, icon uploaded |
18:00.21 | DuTempete | hehe |
18:00.25 | pcj | ty orguuua |
18:00.29 | Gourra | np |
18:01.26 | DuTempete | it sounds like he was just mad they weren't speaking about it in accurate terms, pzyk :P |
18:01.54 | Pzyk | =/ |
18:09.16 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Care and Feeding of Warriors: This is the year that was - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/04/the-care-and-feeding-of-warriors-this-is-the-year-that-was/ |
18:14.22 | Gourra | sigs doesn't like ‮҉ I see |
18:14.26 | Gourra | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Combining_Cyrillic_Millions_Sign_%28Firefox%29 |
18:15.36 | Pzyk | this can't be good. |
18:16.26 | Gourra | What? |
18:17.07 | Gourra | someone linked that to me |
18:17.13 | Pzyk | lol, just saw ED and thought any link to it is a little dangerous. |
18:17.43 | Gourra | ah |
18:19.03 | Gourra | http://www.unipad.org/unimap/index.php?page=detail¶m_char=0489 |
18:19.04 | Gourra | another link |
18:19.07 | Gourra | to the same thing |
18:19.16 | Gourra | if you're suspicious of ED |
18:21.21 | Pzyk | nah, looked at the first link |
18:21.28 | Pzyk | it's fun to use on wow forums |
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18:22.44 | Gourra | heh |
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18:26.00 | Pzyk | argh! |
18:26.05 | Pzyk | when are they ever fixing armory? |
18:26.48 | Gourra | at least EU is working |
18:27.11 | Gourra | and US for me |
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18:42.36 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Technology |
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18:42.37 | pcj | afternoon kirkburn |
18:42.50 | Kirkburn | evening |
18:43.00 | Bagginsww | you know I"m totally with zeal in that I think we go too far with "templates" |
18:43.01 | Bagginsww | :p |
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18:44.32 | Bagginsww | sometimes people want to make templates for the most mundane of things |
18:44.41 | pcj | slowwiki |
18:44.56 | winkiller | and sometimes like character tables it's more than needed |
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18:45.30 | Bagginsww | well I like npcboxes |
18:45.43 | pcj | lol |
18:45.45 | pcj | yeah |
18:46.45 | Bagginsww | then there are cases where you someone puts two templates on the same page for something that has only a sentence of informatin |
18:46.52 | Bagginsww | and the tables totally dominate the page :p |
18:47.00 | pcj | Yeap |
18:47.11 | Bagginsww | and have nothing to do with the topic of the page beyond six degrees of seperation |
18:49.46 | Bagginsww | Another thing that bothers me are when we have verticle templates next to a infobox. Like say the one on [[Sunwell]] |
18:50.00 | pcj | Yeap |
18:50.05 | Bagginsww | it mashes the text on the left |
18:50.09 | pcj | I keep wanting to integrate them somehow |
18:50.10 | Bagginsww | on smaller monitors |
18:50.16 | pcj | But the Infobox should be there in any case |
18:50.21 | Bagginsww | maybe if it was an extention to an infobox |
18:50.26 | pcj | The other vertical template can be made horizontal |
18:50.38 | Bagginsww | I prefer horizontal templates and putting them at the bottom |
18:50.43 | pcj | Yeap |
18:51.07 | Bagginsww | that way it acts much like a see also section, which are always at the bottom |
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18:51.59 | pcj | hi keolah :) |
18:52.49 | Keolah | hi |
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18:55.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Female yay for mundane pointless articles :p |
18:55.58 | Bagginsww | same goes for the male equivalent by the way |
18:56.22 | Gourra | yeah it's kinda pointless |
18:56.35 | pcj | lol idk i look it up every time i forget |
18:56.50 | Bagginsww | what's a female? you say? |
18:57.22 | Gourra | what is this "outside" you speak of? |
18:57.35 | Keolah | What's IRL? :) |
18:57.52 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
18:58.38 | Bagginsww | I need to find that picture of dwarven female from Lord of the Clans again. She was bearded btw heh heh |
18:58.47 | Bagginsww | * |
18:58.52 | Bagginsww | WArcraft ADventures I mean |
18:58.58 | Keolah | Female dwarves are terrifying. |
18:59.52 | Bagginsww | They remind me of me mom, yarr. |
19:00.08 | Bagginsww | short, and plump, and amicable |
19:00.25 | Bagginsww | although my mom doesn't drink |
19:00.41 | Bagginsww | nor does she speak with a scottish accent |
19:01.12 | Bagginsww | Although don't get on her bad side or all wrath breaks lose. |
19:01.30 | Bagginsww | just like an angry dwarf |
19:05.37 | Gourra | is there a way to make an item page NOT reject the item name? I'm trying to give each of the ZG dolls a page but if I just type in "Punctured Voodoo Doll" it won't accept, but only if I write the class afterwards |
19:05.54 | winkiller | hu? |
19:06.13 | winkiller | define "accept" |
19:06.18 | pcj | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
19:06.34 | Bagginsww | Amen to that |
19:07.14 | Gourra | winkillar: [[Punctured Voodoo Doll (Priest)]] |
19:07.19 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Punctured_Voodoo_Doll_%28Priest%29 |
19:07.43 | Gourra | it won't put it on the right unless I write in "Punctured Voodoo Doll (Priest)" |
19:07.57 | Gourra | winkiller* sigh |
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19:08.20 | winkiller | ah hum, strange yea :P |
19:09.28 | Bagginsww | oh ya speaking of Voodoo, it has a real world definition right? hmm must add that to the Zandali translation list |
19:09.53 | Keolah | Stay away from the voodoo! |
19:10.25 | Gourra | "Voodoo is a religious tradition originating in West Africa, which became prominent in the New World due to the importation of African slaves. West African Vodun is the original form of the religion; Haitian Vodou and Louisiana Voodoo are its descendants in the New World." |
19:10.28 | Gourra | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo |
19:11.03 | Bagginsww | I was going to go more for a dictionary defnition than encyclopedic ;) |
19:11.13 | Bagginsww | that kind of info can be a footnote in the voodoo article itself :p |
19:11.34 | Gourra | ah sec |
19:11.36 | Bagginsww | possibly a direct translation |
19:11.38 | Bagginsww | of the word itself |
19:11.50 | Bagginsww | rather than the history of hte word |
19:12.18 | Bagginsww | there are a handful of troll terms I need to add from the rpg that have real world definitions |
19:12.21 | Bagginsww | like Zuvembi |
19:12.32 | Bagginsww | I just added Mojo |
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19:13.15 | winkiller | Gourra: it's also smaller tooltiip, I suspect the template got changed.. weird |
19:13.27 | Gourra | "1.Also, vodun. a polytheistic religion practiced chiefly by West Indians, deriving principally from African cult worship and containing elements borrowed from the Catholic religion." |
19:13.27 | Gourra | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/voodoo |
19:14.02 | Gourra | that's the closest I can come :p |
19:14.53 | Gourra | oh or "2. (Haiti) followers of a religion that involves witchcraft and animistic deities " |
19:15.10 | Gourra | animistic deities = loa? |
19:15.18 | Gourra | hmm hmm |
19:15.21 | winkiller | ya |
19:15.57 | Bagginsww | ya loa are from the real world :) |
19:16.00 | Bagginsww | [[loa]] |
19:16.00 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/loa |
19:16.13 | Bagginsww | notice most of the loa we have heard off in the RPG are real world loa beliefs |
19:17.11 | Bagginsww | oh can someone get me a good picture of the sign from the [[Temple of Boom]]? |
19:17.26 | Bagginsww | actually I don't think we have an article for the Temple of Boom |
19:17.30 | winkiller | Legba and Samedi are also in neuromancer :P |
19:17.35 | Gourra | Temple of Boom? |
19:17.50 | Bagginsww | but its one of the goblin market designs in Warcraft III |
19:17.56 | Bagginsww | its a good example of arabic common |
19:18.01 | Gourra | oh |
19:18.01 | Gourra | sec |
19:18.13 | Bagginsww | I.e. uses the arabic alphabet |
19:18.54 | Gourra | I'll boot up and take a screenshot |
19:20.59 | Bagginsww | thanks |
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19:21.17 | Bagginsww | get as zoomed in from a side view as you can please |
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19:22.46 | pcj | foxlit: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
19:23.10 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: PCZone# 190 - Wrath of the Ling King Round Up - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1980 |
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19:27.50 | Gourra | Bagginsww: you mean the mercenary camp that looks like an observatory and has a sign, or the market place with ladders? |
19:28.09 | Bagginsww | the one that specifically says Temple of Boom in big red letters as I recall |
19:28.16 | Bagginsww | its a goblin market |
19:28.21 | Bagginsww | not sure what type |
19:28.24 | Sandwichman2448 | The merc camp looked like a walled tent. |
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19:28.28 | Bagginsww | ya |
19:28.33 | Gourra | ah that one |
19:28.35 | Bagginsww | btw we probably need pictures of both |
19:28.37 | Gourra | with skulls on the front |
19:28.43 | Bagginsww | we don't have mercenary camp article yet |
19:28.44 | Gourra | skull(s) |
19:28.58 | Sandwichman2448 | We have pics of it. |
19:29.02 | Bagginsww | oh good |
19:29.07 | Bagginsww | just not hte article? |
19:29.30 | Bagginsww | anycase I mostly just need as large a version of the sign as you can get |
19:29.42 | Bagginsww | from as much of a side view as possible |
19:30.01 | Bagginsww | without ripping into the textures LOL |
19:30.15 | Bagginsww | unless you are capable of doing that ;) |
19:30.25 | Gourra | "Goblin Laboratory"? |
19:30.28 | Gourra | in the game files |
19:30.38 | Gourra | "Brush: Units - Goblin Laboratory" |
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19:32.22 | Bagginsww | heh |
19:33.06 | Gourra | sec I'll link |
19:33.10 | Gourra | http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6066/templeofboomyz5.jpg |
19:34.22 | Bagginsww | sweet go ahead and upload that to wowwwiki |
19:34.28 | Gourra | alright |
19:34.30 | Bagginsww | and if you find a way to extract just that texture let me know |
19:35.05 | Gourra | hmkay |
19:35.55 | Gourra | uploaded to Image:TempleofBoom.jpg |
19:36.19 | Bagginsww | thanks |
19:36.29 | Gourra | np |
19:37.13 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Jeff Kaplan reveals how to get to Northrend - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/04/pc-zone-interview-details/ |
19:38.06 | Sandwichman2448 | At last! |
19:38.52 | Sandwichman2448 | NVM we knew that. |
19:39.14 | Sandwichman2448 | just about the two zones in the stead of one. |
19:39.28 | Dotted | Fisker- why is TF2 still so freakin unstable that you are suprised it isnt in alpha state anymore? |
19:41.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Common_%28language%29 |
19:41.49 | Bagginsww | how's that? |
19:45.26 | pcj | !jobqueue |
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19:47.35 | Fisker- | Dotted it's not unstable |
19:47.37 | Fisker- | you just suck |
19:47.57 | Dotted | uhm |
19:48.12 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Justice Keep]] |
19:48.12 | [NewsBot] | Sandwichman2448 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Justice_Keep |
19:48.37 | Pzyk | Is that the home of the Justice League? |
19:48.59 | Dotted | when ever i start TF2 i have to ctrl+alt+del to task manager and use that to be able to keep focus on TF2, else it just keeps flashing between TF2 and desktop |
19:49.09 | Dotted | if it didnt crash that is |
19:49.36 | Gourra | ugh..going through wc3 unit textures is like dissecting corpses |
19:49.38 | Sandwichman2448 | I got a new tidbit. |
19:49.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Of info. |
19:49.57 | Sandwichman2448 | New leader there. |
19:50.10 | Sandwichman2448 | Unless WoWInsider is stupid. |
19:52.08 | Gourra | hm just noticed that a Battlenet texture in wc3 looks familiar to the LFG icon in WoW |
19:54.24 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Common_%28language%29 |
19:54.35 | Bagginsww | point of note I think we need to take out thondroril off that list |
19:54.40 | Bagginsww | it may be thallasian |
19:54.46 | Bagginsww | its unclear |
19:55.07 | Bagginsww | disecting corpses, LOL |
19:56.10 | Gourra | Bagginsww: found image from textures file, want to see it? |
19:56.24 | Bagginsww | ya does it look good or is it blurred? |
19:56.30 | Gourra | good, but small |
19:56.47 | Gourra | slow imageshack is slow |
19:56.55 | Bagginsww | lol |
19:58.18 | Fisker- | your computer sux then Dotted :o |
19:58.18 | Gourra | http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5663/templeofboom2mm3.jpg |
19:58.18 | Dotted | (CPU1) Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz @ 2000MHz (Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. G33M-DS2R mainboard) (RAM) 4GB, 1.9GB free (HDDs) 1.05TB, 140GB free |
19:58.18 | Dotted | (VGA1) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512MB), 1680x1050x32, 59Hz (OS) Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate (SP1), 13h 46m uptime, 2d 11h 10m 21s uptime record |
19:58.19 | Dotted | k |
19:59.18 | Dotted | Fisker- all other source games doesnt have those probs tho |
19:59.22 | Gourra | got it Bagginsww? |
19:59.29 | Bagginsww | ya so we just need to stretch it some |
19:59.43 | Bagginsww | to whatever resolution you were using in game ;) |
19:59.56 | Bagginsww | and somehow apply smoothing, :) |
20:00.01 | Fisker- | that's because you don't know what you be talking about yarr Dotted |
20:00.31 | Dotted | if you did, you'd know exactly why i have these problems - so we are in the same boat really |
20:00.44 | Gourra | mkay |
20:01.15 | Fisker- | i need poop :O |
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20:01.48 | Dotted | also Fisker- |
20:01.57 | Dotted | nvidia sucks at drivers |
20:01.59 | Dotted | :( |
20:02.06 | Kirkburn | Well, isn't it fun when admins have to cheat to win at TF2 |
20:02.17 | Dotted | play on a decent server |
20:02.20 | Kirkburn | Dotted, lol, what? |
20:02.30 | Kirkburn | nV did once suck, but they don't atm |
20:02.30 | Dotted | Kirkburn, lol, what? |
20:02.36 | Fisker- | there's some retarded servers as well :D |
20:02.37 | Dotted | oh yes they do |
20:02.41 | Kirkburn | How so? |
20:02.44 | Fisker- | there was this server where you could pay for a premium membership |
20:02.53 | Fisker- | and you'd have unlimited ammo, get hp when killing people and so forth |
20:03.05 | Gourra | Bagginsww: by smoothing you mean ? |
20:03.14 | Dotted | i have to use some leaked old beta driver to get decent performance from my 8800GT |
20:03.17 | Fisker- | moo: gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 512MB |
20:03.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Team fortress? |
20:03.25 | Bagginsww | hide pixels |
20:03.37 | Bagginsww | alpha blending or whatever its called |
20:03.37 | Gourra | hmmkay |
20:03.37 | Sandwichman2448 | I have that. |
20:03.45 | Kirkburn | Dotted, which driver, which game? |
20:03.54 | Bagginsww | although I probably recalled the wrong term :p |
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20:04.08 | Dotted | also they had a annoying resume from standby bug that also reduced performance - they fixed that but i cant get the fix since i have to use this crappy old driver |
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20:04.12 | Kirkburn | I have a 8800 GTS 256, and not having any problems |
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20:04.40 | pcj | kirkburn http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
20:04.59 | Dotted | Kirkburn 167.26 |
20:05.37 | Dotted | trying the 169.25 hopefully they fixed it >_> |
20:05.51 | Kirkburn | Using those here |
20:06.06 | Dotted | i've tried all but that one all failed |
20:06.18 | Fisker- | lol Kirkburn :( |
20:06.18 | Dotted | so yeah nvidia are the suck |
20:06.19 | Fisker- | why not 512? |
20:06.27 | Kirkburn | Wasn't out |
20:06.32 | Fisker- | err |
20:06.40 | Fisker- | the 512 one was the only one out here |
20:06.57 | Kirkburn | Is that so? Then, uh ... sec |
20:07.23 | pcj | slowwiki |
20:07.24 | pcj | !jobqueue |
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20:07.34 | Kirkburn | 320 then |
20:07.44 | Dotted | hmm Fisker- one of the blades on the 8800GT fan have been bent, when i get to RMA it do you think SHG will let me have the new GTS? |
20:07.52 | Fisker- | no |
20:07.56 | Dotted | :( |
20:08.06 | Dotted | i know i have to pay the difference |
20:08.13 | Dotted | but still |
20:09.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Taelen someone doesn't know anything about formatting pages, :p |
20:09.23 | Gourra | you mean the image? |
20:09.35 | Bagginsww | I mean how all the text is below the infobox |
20:09.44 | Bagginsww | image is probably causing the problem |
20:09.49 | Gourra | hm yeah |
20:09.57 | pcj | slowwiki |
20:10.29 | Bagginsww | nah its the tocright |
20:10.50 | Bagginsww | kills tocright :p |
20:11.00 | pcj | fixed |
20:11.18 | Bagginsww | still have the problem |
20:11.21 | Gourra | grr beaten |
20:11.23 | Bagginsww | its the tocright causing it |
20:11.27 | Bagginsww | not the image |
20:11.39 | Bagginsww | although the image may now be causing it |
20:11.43 | Gourra | I'll see |
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20:12.17 | Bagginsww | ya I think its the image this time around |
20:12.27 | Bagginsww | we just need to move the image down or put it into a gallery |
20:12.52 | pcj | !jobqueue |
20:12.52 | Bagginsww | or put ot to the "left" again |
20:12.56 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 9081 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 2hrs 31mins 21secs. |
20:13.21 | pcj | all the text isn't below the infobox... |
20:13.36 | Bagginsww | it is on my moniotor |
20:14.15 | Gourra | it's not on mine |
20:14.18 | Bagginsww | i fixed the problem by moving the image to the left again |
20:14.35 | Bagginsww | this is the problem with multiiple resolutions :p |
20:14.46 | Bagginsww | things work for one resolution and don't for others :p |
20:14.52 | pcj | slooowwiki |
20:15.23 | Gourra | I'm on 1024x768 |
20:15.23 | Bagginsww | I usually test various resolution types to see what works best for all of them |
20:16.23 | Bagginsww | I"m running 1280 x 800 on my laptop |
20:16.29 | Gourra | erm Bagginsww |
20:16.33 | Gourra | you broke the : now |
20:16.40 | Bagginsww | now? |
20:16.50 | Gourra | "He starts the quest Neutral [60] In Dreams (Elite). |
20:16.50 | Gourra | <PROTECTED> |
20:17.01 | Gourra | see the blank before "You"? it's not there now |
20:17.18 | Gourra | format thingie, look at it |
20:17.54 | Bagginsww | ok the only other thing to try is move that image way south |
20:18.10 | Bagginsww | this is why I try to avoid "left" |
20:18.26 | Bagginsww | left images screw up formating most of the time :p |
20:18.44 | Gourra | see now |
20:18.56 | Gourra | should probably resize the thumb now though |
20:19.30 | Bagginsww | ok won't work at history section |
20:19.46 | Dotted | nope |
20:19.48 | Dotted | still not fixed |
20:19.48 | Bagginsww | still pushes text below the npcbox |
20:19.52 | Dotted | 100 fps in 3dmark01 == fail |
20:19.56 | Bagginsww | I'm doing review not editing |
20:19.58 | Dotted | back rgood ol' 167.26 |
20:20.00 | Bagginsww | so yes it snot fixed, ;) |
20:20.05 | Bagginsww | oh your video card |
20:20.21 | Gourra | well, I put the image under " Age Discrepancies" now |
20:20.28 | Gourra | unless we're not looking at the same thing |
20:20.32 | Dotted | talking to me Bagginsww :o? |
20:20.55 | Bagginsww | age discrepencies will fix that problem i"m sure |
20:21.04 | Bagginsww | yep works fine now |
20:21.05 | Gourra | yeah I put it there |
20:21.23 | Bagginsww | oh ya npcbox |
20:21.39 | Bagginsww | really wow information in the npc box should be in its own section |
20:21.56 | Bagginsww | seeing "level" mixed with the lore content is disconcerting |
20:22.20 | Bagginsww | I'd recommend putting level up above the picture |
20:22.27 | Bagginsww | much like we did for the zonebox |
20:22.32 | Gourra | erm why ? |
20:22.35 | Gourra | the same on Thrall |
20:22.44 | Bagginsww | its a template thing |
20:22.54 | Bagginsww | seperating lore from mechanics |
20:23.13 | Gourra | Thrall has mechanics AND lore is the same npcbox |
20:23.20 | Gourra | should that be changed too? |
20:23.31 | Bagginsww | you change the template it will fix it for all articles |
20:23.49 | Bagginsww | one fix fixes all :) |
20:24.09 | Gourra | noticed at [[Magni_Bronzebeard]] |
20:24.17 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magni_Bronzebeard |
20:24.23 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elwynn_Forest |
20:24.24 | Bagginsww | see |
20:24.38 | Bagginsww | change the template so that it places that information above the image |
20:24.46 | Bagginsww | and keep lore stuff below the image |
20:25.40 | Gourra | well the level could be removed since it's already in the first sentence of the article |
20:25.49 | pcj | no |
20:26.38 | Gourra | o..k |
20:27.10 | Bagginsww | I agree there |
20:27.29 | Bagginsww | the level section is part of the old npc template |
20:27.44 | Bagginsww | npc template was usded mainly for characters with little to no lore |
20:27.55 | pcj | the npcbox isn't to replace the article, it's to summarize the important points of the article |
20:28.04 | Bagginsww | which true |
20:28.06 | pcj | so if there's duplication it isn't a problem |
20:28.08 | Bagginsww | *which is true |
20:28.17 | Bagginsww | ya I just suggest moving the level section to above the image |
20:28.22 | Bagginsww | like we did for zonebox |
20:28.43 | Bagginsww | and anything else relating to game mechanics |
20:29.08 | Gourra | anyone who can see http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Westbrook_Garrison.jpg? |
20:29.48 | Gourra | I'm just getting a blank image |
20:29.55 | Bagginsww | works for me |
20:29.57 | pcj | yeah it's there |
20:30.11 | Gourra | bleh |
20:32.47 | Gourra | slowwwwiki |
20:41.07 | Bagginsww | point of note something like class lore needs citations and checked for accuracy |
20:41.15 | Bagginsww | right now it is lacking in that department |
20:41.40 | Bagginsww | its also a bit broad, when we have more specific individual Race class pages. |
20:41.42 | Keolah | Soon... Soon! I shall have some nice pants. |
20:41.44 | Bagginsww | like |
20:41.50 | Bagginsww | [[Mage races]] |
20:41.51 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage_races |
20:42.47 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Insider Trader: A year in the making (err, crafting) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/04/insider-trader-a-year-in-the-making-err-crafting/ |
20:45.16 | Keolah | I'd like to thank uh, whoever it was who did the math to figure out how the hell much crap I needed for all this so I didn't have to do it myself :p |
20:47.23 | Bagginsww | I'd like to brag that it wasn't me. |
20:49.16 | Keolah | I also feel like a complete dork for spending that much mithril on the quests so I can be an armorsmith :P |
21:00.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:ShadeOfAranChant.ogg#Comments :p |
21:07.55 | Gourra | yes just saw it |
21:09.17 | Gourra | and I won't take off my delete vote and change it to keep this time :p |
21:09.45 | Gourra | by the way, your sig is a bit big |
21:13.08 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
21:13.46 | Bagginsww | actually I could declare admin law on this, as it isn't breaking policies, and fits within policies, but its not so important as to resort to that. |
21:15.09 | Bagginsww | ahh and just loaded your comment |
21:15.37 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/80045 |
21:16.00 | kd3 | I only ordered one copy of each of the boxsets. will I be getting 2? |
21:16.26 | pcj | target uses amazon.com |
21:16.33 | Bagginsww | also point of note a non warcraft ogg would probably be allowed if it was being utilized in a user's page for some reason |
21:17.49 | Bagginsww | or even if it relates to something on a talk page |
21:18.44 | Gourra | but in case it wasn't, so if anything it would have been categorized as silly and/or getting linked from Shade of Aran |
21:18.50 | Gourra | this case* |
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21:19.49 | Bagginsww | ya and it should be added into shade of aran article in the instructions part, ; ) |
21:20.01 | Gourra | hehe, yeah |
21:20.02 | Bagginsww | it would be helpful there too |
21:20.35 | Bagginsww | that song brings back memories. there were always new raiders that never got the "do not move" part around |
21:21.19 | Bagginsww | I mean I was a good listener myself and usually only had to hear instructions once. but there were those that had to die by flames to understand it :p |
21:22.04 | kd3 | http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com |
21:22.09 | Gourra | :p |
21:22.32 | Gourra | well the odd thing is that it's on the Shade of Aran page but it doesn't show in the Image page as being linked |
21:23.08 | Bagginsww | hmm |
21:23.46 | Gourra | also, the quest The Savage Guard could be split up to the three different quests; maybe unneccesary but it looks better |
21:24.38 | Bagginsww | split with a main disambig page? |
21:24.42 | Gourra | yes |
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21:24.57 | Bagginsww | well I see no problem if you want to take it on yourself to do thta |
21:25.06 | Gourra | okay, thanks |
21:25.33 | Bagginsww | I'd say keep the general lore analysas on the main page |
21:25.42 | Bagginsww | but instructions on the seperate pages |
21:26.04 | Bagginsww | note that many quest pages have lore synopses as of yet :p |
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21:29.15 | Keolah | Woohoo, an armorsmith is me! afk ;p |
21:35.23 | foxlit | is the wiki dead? |
21:35.49 | kd3 | very slow saving pages. |
21:36.16 | foxlit | wonder what gives |
21:36.47 | kd3 | dunno. if it stays like this for another few minutes I'm about to poke in #wikia and ask ops to take a look at the database |
21:37.00 | Gourra | it's been slow for a while |
21:37.07 | foxlit | ages! |
21:37.18 | pcj | it's obviously the vertical templates |
21:37.19 | foxlit | wiki has no ops anyway |
21:37.28 | Gourra | in the timespace known has "soon" by blizzard |
21:37.29 | kd3 | the ops team |
21:37.31 | Gourra | as* |
21:37.36 | kd3 | not chanops |
21:39.47 | Bagginsww | ya pcj obviously |
21:40.04 | Bagginsww | actually its probably all templats in general except infoboxes. Most templates are the devil ;) |
21:40.17 | pcj | Baggins: delete {{tooltip}} plz |
21:40.23 | foxlit | Has little to do with templates, really |
21:40.27 | Bagginsww | LOL |
21:40.35 | Gourra | hehe |
21:40.47 | Bagginsww | so that fandy can jump me? |
21:40.49 | foxlit | They shouldn't play into performance once the page has been generated - and wiki is suffering from rather obscene load times lately |
21:41.13 | Bagginsww | its a joke foxlit ;) |
21:41.31 | Gourra | speaking of templates, is Elinks-object worth a look? @ talk page |
21:41.45 | Bagginsww | we have been complaining about verticle templates in village pump today. |
21:41.59 | foxlit | I know, I was being serious about something else :P |
21:42.13 | foxlit | The idea that we did something horrible with templates isn't that foreign :P |
21:44.00 | pcj | The only place where jobqueue is a problem is when fandy edits {{cost}} incorrectly 3 times and we still have pages looking wrong 4 days later |
21:55.06 | Keolah | also, when is that annoying glitch where you can only see the first page of long categories going to be fixed? ;p |
21:55.41 | pcj | NEVER |
21:55.45 | pcj | lol |
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21:55.59 | pcj | [[WW:SR]] |
21:55.59 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:SR |
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21:57.11 | foxlit | got a category example? |
21:58.12 | Bagginsww | conteplates using level box to insert RPG levels just to annoy people ;) |
21:58.23 | Bagginsww | j/k |
21:59.09 | Bagginsww | no one would understand rpg levels anyways They look lower than ingame levels, yet may be higher in comparison. |
22:00.01 | Bagginsww | Van Cleef for example is probably a level 60ish character rpg wise where as he's a low level character in WoW |
22:00.33 | Bagginsww | he's like level 16 in the rpg, and as I recall rpg has its levels basically between 1-20 |
22:00.41 | foxlit | Comparatively, what is onyxia? |
22:00.42 | Bagginsww | not counting epic system |
22:00.51 | Bagginsww | she's much higher than van cleef |
22:01.00 | Bagginsww | let me check |
22:01.29 | Bagginsww | anything higher than level 20 is epic levels IIRC |
22:01.45 | Bagginsww | which there is no system for the WoWRPG as of yet |
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22:02.26 | Bagginsww | basicaly int the rpg zones are all equal, there is no linear leveling system |
22:02.39 | Bagginsww | you could have your story appearing in any area |
22:02.48 | Bagginsww | its what you encounter that can vary |
22:03.06 | Bagginsww | some characters you wouldn't want to run into if your starting out, heh |
22:03.24 | Bagginsww | but there would be weaklings in every area as well |
22:04.08 | Bagginsww | its a bit more realistic in that respect |
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22:05.41 | Bagginsww | also in the RPG I think levels are a bit more exponential, or logorythmic |
22:05.59 | foxlit | which is it? :) |
22:06.04 | Bagginsww | not sure |
22:06.25 | Bagginsww | just that I'm pretty sure that each level is much higher than the previous in power |
22:06.41 | Bagginsww | so that someone who is level 2 is significally more powerful than someone that's level 1 |
22:06.49 | foxlit | exponental |
22:06.51 | Bagginsww | thus why there are only 20 main levels |
22:07.14 | Bagginsww | if it was additional it would make everything rather weak LOL |
22:07.17 | foxlit | logarithmic growth slows down with increase |
22:07.24 | Bagginsww | true |
22:07.44 | Bagginsww | I'm thinking something along the lines of a richter scale |
22:07.59 | foxlit | Still exponential |
22:08.02 | Bagginsww | ya |
22:08.17 | foxlit | Drawn on logarithmic scale, though, to produce a straight line |
22:08.58 | Bagginsww | onyxia is level level 6 mage. But since she's a creature she doesn't really have normal level system |
22:09.20 | Bagginsww | cr 25 |
22:09.23 | Bagginsww | challeng rating |
22:09.41 | Bagginsww | noting that challenge rating is imprecise way to compare two different invidivuals |
22:09.59 | Bagginsww | since a healer may have a higher cr but not actually be dangerous |
22:10.18 | Bagginsww | just harder to kill because they can keep healing themselves or others |
22:10.41 | Bagginsww | whereas a melee may be more dangerous but die faster |
22:10.47 | ecs | ugh, my guild needs it's own wiki |
22:11.33 | Bagginsww | and ony has the elite template which makes her more difficult than normal black dragon |
22:12.18 | Bagginsww | nefarion is level 15 warlock, elite dragon, same issues though because he's a creature rather than normal player race |
22:12.48 | Bagginsww | races have "racial levels", only a few creatures have creature levels |
22:13.15 | Bagginsww | any creature that has creature classes are more or less just like races with race classes |
22:14.13 | Bagginsww | beyond the weirdness of the idea of a class being a race or creature, I've thought about making articles related to that style of class, just to mention the related lore tied to the classes |
22:14.45 | Bagginsww | but so far I've just limited class pages to more traditional profession like classes |
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22:28.52 | Bagginsww | Ragestorm and his archaeological trips. I'm so jealous, LOL |
22:29.17 | Bagginsww | Now he's going to belize eh? |
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22:31.00 | kd3 | belize is cool |
22:31.13 | Bagginsww | someday, I'll go there, I shall |
22:31.59 | Bagginsww | sigh yet another person trying to "remove references" to green eyes from high elves :p |
22:32.16 | Bagginsww | sorry you migh tnot see green eyed high elves in game but they exist in lore |
22:33.01 | Bagginsww | well the thing is I'm tired of theoretical education. I really want to do some hands on stuff |
22:33.10 | Bagginsww | get out into the field |
22:33.19 | Bagginsww | tired of just learning about what others do |
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22:33.59 | Bagginsww | and amazon, south american, and precolubian anthropology/archaelogy really interests me heh |
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22:35.30 | foxlit | Yay, crashed my bot. So totally worth it! :) |
22:37.36 | Dotted | rockstar on steam \o/ |
22:38.11 | Bagginsww | guess I just need to point out that Alleria had green eyes |
22:39.30 | Bagginsww | alleria is a good example as she never was or became a blood elf ;) |
22:40.36 | pcj | cool |
22:43.26 | Bagginsww | made a few edits that should point out to people we mean business lol |
22:43.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/High_elf#Appearance |
22:44.18 | Bagginsww | actually the section needs more cleanup |
22:44.26 | Bagginsww | I notice its kind of repeating itself |
22:44.29 | Bagginsww | in three sections :p |
22:44.35 | Bagginsww | we could drop two of those |
22:44.43 | Bagginsww | or rather one of them and reduce the other |
22:44.53 | Bagginsww | the lore information, and wow mechanics information |
22:45.11 | Bagginsww | second paragrapha nd the last paragraph of the section are basically the same |
22:47.00 | pcj | foxlit why did your bot miss the set http://www.wowwiki.com/Merciless_Gladiator%27s_Wyrmhide_Tunic |
22:47.43 | foxlit | On the 21st of June? |
22:48.05 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Settip&action=history |
22:48.27 | pcj | Hah |
22:48.48 | pcj | Didn't we have something else for set back then though |
22:49.58 | Bagginsww | hmm play some more zelda or watch some of my mash dvds... tough choice :p |
22:50.15 | Bagginsww | man I love M*A*S*H |
22:50.18 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Tooltip&diff=next&oldid=710799 |
22:50.19 | foxlit | there |
22:50.44 | foxlit | That's the first mention of set in tooltips :) |
22:55.05 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Arator_the_Redeemer#Abritrary_break_1 |
23:02.23 | pcj | sloowwwwiki |
23:02.34 | pcj | foxlit: <3 {{item}} for finding problem item pages |
23:02.52 | pcj | !jobqueue |
23:02.55 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 6348 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1hr 45mins 48secs. |
23:03.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arator_the_Redeemer |
23:04.00 | Bagginsww | I believe I've improved it ;) |
23:04.09 | Bagginsww | none of that silly debate speculation bit |
23:04.12 | Bagginsww | and just pure facts |
23:05.03 | DuTempete | Grr... no foxbot :( |
23:05.33 | DuTempete | isn't there a command to log it in when you're online, foxlit? |
23:06.00 | foxlit | Not since I stopped using mirc on windows |
23:06.19 | foxlit | Anyway, it's sitting and sulking in a corner over its shortcomings |
23:06.35 | DuTempete | lol |
23:06.36 | pcj | They are pretty short, aren't they |
23:06.56 | DuTempete | well I was going to have it create some articles :P |
23:06.59 | pcj | sloowwwwiki |
23:07.28 | DuTempete | is it still running off of the update template on the wiki? |
23:10.47 | pcj | slllllllooooooooowww wiki |
23:10.51 | kd3 | {{:User:Foxbot/UpdateItem|date=<date>|user=<user>}} |
23:10.52 | [NewsBot] | kd3 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/user=<user> |
23:11.05 | pcj | don't even need leading colon |
23:12.40 | pcj | !jobqueue |
23:12.51 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 6348 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 0secs. |
23:12.53 | pcj | yeah |
23:17.28 | deltron | dang wtf kinda jobs is it doing? |
23:17.51 | pcj | folding envelopes |
23:18.03 | pcj | you can make $10,000 a week doing that you know |
23:18.31 | pcj | Actually, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue |
23:19.16 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Savage_Guard has been fixed to disambugation page |
23:19.37 | pcj | grats |
23:21.31 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Aggonis.jpg |
23:24.39 | Gourra | added in quest details |
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23:26.28 | pcj | !sup |
23:26.28 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
23:27.14 | DuTempete | why are we hugging me? |
23:27.30 | foxlit | !whoami |
23:27.30 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, foxlit |
23:27.39 | pcj | !wtfami |
23:27.56 | foxlit | !i am foxlit |
23:27.56 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit. |
23:28.03 | foxlit | !whoami |
23:28.03 | Foxbot | You are foxlit, foxlit. |
23:28.05 | pcj | !i am not foxlit |
23:28.06 | Foxbot | Okay, pcj. |
23:28.18 | pcj | !whoami |
23:28.19 | Foxbot | You are not foxlit, pcj. |
23:28.28 | pcj | !i am brilliant |
23:28.33 | pcj | damn |
23:28.39 | foxlit | Hah! |
23:28.46 | notpcj | !whoami |
23:28.46 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, notpcj |
23:29.14 | DuTempete | I went to put the template on the page, but dicovered the template is slightly broken... now I'm trying to loko up if functions on mediawiki :P |
23:29.18 | DuTempete | so I can fix it :P |
23:29.22 | foxlit | !whoami |
23:29.22 | Foxbot | You are foxlit, foxlit. |
23:29.36 | DuTempete | !i am Kirkburn's girlfriend |
23:29.37 | Foxbot | Okay, DuTempete. |
23:29.41 | DuTempete | !whoami |
23:29.57 | pcj | its borked |
23:30.00 | DuTempete | lol |
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23:30.28 | DuTempete | !whomai |
23:30.30 | DuTempete | lol |
23:30.33 | DuTempete | !whoami |
23:30.33 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, DuTempete |
23:30.36 | pcj | !whoami |
23:30.37 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, pcj |
23:30.38 | DuTempete | nooo |
23:30.41 | DuTempete | it forgot :( |
23:30.46 | pcj | !I am pcj |
23:30.56 | DuTempete | haha |
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23:31.00 | pcj | !I am pcj |
23:31.09 | DuTempete | !i am Kirkburn's girlfriend |
23:31.09 | Foxbot | Okay, DuTempete. |
23:31.14 | pcj | !i am pcj |
23:31.15 | Foxbot | Okay, pcj. |
23:31.15 | DuTempete | !whoami |
23:31.15 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, DuTempete |
23:31.17 | pcj | !whoami |
23:31.17 | Foxbot | You are pcj, pcj. |
23:31.31 | pcj | !whyami pcj |
23:31.35 | DuTempete | lol |
23:31.38 | deltron | pcj: ah yeah the job queue seems important |
23:32.00 | DuTempete | !whoami |
23:32.01 | Foxbot | I don't know who you are, DuTempete |
23:32.16 | DuTempete | I don't think it likes the space character, foxlit :P |
23:32.37 | DuTempete | !i am Kirkburn's |
23:32.37 | Foxbot | Okay, DuTempete. |
23:32.41 | DuTempete | !whoami |
23:32.42 | Foxbot | You are Kirkburn's, DuTempete. |
23:33.33 | DuTempete | If he weren't getting ready for his trip to see me, I'd make him log back in so he could see that :P |
23:36.02 | DuTempete | well, I'm going back to plastering the laundry room... |
23:36.22 | pcj | cya |
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23:41.49 | foxlit | !forget me |
23:42.15 | foxlit | !forget me |
23:43.01 | foxlit | !forget me |
23:43.01 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit. |
23:43.05 | pcj | !forget you |
23:43.18 | foxlit | The idea, then, is that it tracks the value across nick changes |
23:43.20 | foxlit | !i am foxlit |
23:43.21 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit. |
23:43.25 | notpcj | !whoami |
23:43.25 | Foxbot | You are foxlit, notpcj. |
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23:46.23 | pcj | !whois foxlit |
23:47.40 | pcj | !editcount pcj |
23:49.37 | Foxbot | pcj made 22484 edits, of which 20318 were minor and 12669 were commented. |
23:50.10 | Gourra | !editcount Gourra |
23:50.17 | Foxbot | Gourra made 1485 edits, of which 529 were minor and 459 were commented. |
23:54.50 | Gourra | I don't get it.. why is the item box to the left at http://www.wowwiki.com/Punctured_Voodoo_Doll_(warlock) but to the right at http://www.wowwiki.com/Punctured_Voodoo_Doll_(shaman)? |
23:55.08 | Gourra | same format in both articles |
23:56.03 | pcj | disambigpage |
23:56.20 | pcj | fixed |
23:57.19 | Gourra | I think it has something with that you've edited it, because it's fixed after you did that |
23:57.34 | pcj | ...no |
23:57.36 | pcj | I fixed it |
23:59.03 | pcj | !jobqueue |
23:59.05 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 5682 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1hr 34mins 42secs. |
23:59.49 | Gourra | hmm that's odd, I recall that it was to the right when the first char in the class text was lower case |
23:59.52 | Gourra | thanks anyway |