| 00:11.59 | Zeal | Bagginsww, blizz used "Sunwell Plateau" and "Plateau" in reference to the instances today. |
| 00:12.01 | Zeal | :p |
| 00:12.10 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 00:12.24 | Bagginsww | they keep changing their mind |
| 00:12.38 | Bagginsww | well I say we don't move it until the test realm goes up |
| 00:12.51 | Bagginsww | right now the name reflects current published lore |
| 00:13.24 | Bagginsww | and this begs the question how it became a plateauh and when :p |
| 00:13.32 | Bagginsww | it wasn't a plateau in the comic :p |
| 00:13.38 | Bagginsww | *manga |
| 00:13.45 | Bagginsww | more like a deep valley |
| 00:13.57 | Bagginsww | expecially after it blew up |
| 00:17.34 | Zeal | hehe |
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| 00:32.19 | Bagginsww | they should add some ingame content in an alliance starting area LOL |
| 00:32.25 | Bagginsww | to balance things |
| 00:33.08 | Bagginsww | its already funny that the alliance gets to have flight paths and pretty much move freely around Barrens and Quel'thalas |
| 00:35.11 | pcj | well...horde get to have instances in their territory |
| 00:38.10 | Zeal | and alliance gets a tram and instance inside their capital. |
| 00:38.41 | Zeal | and remind me, is westfall alliance or contested? |
| 00:39.43 | Zeal | Bagginsww, where is there an alliance fp in the barrens? and how can they move freely? |
| 00:39.53 | Bagginsww | ratchet ;) |
| 00:40.05 | Bagginsww | it makes it really easy to raid durotar |
| 00:40.10 | Zeal | may as well be considered a neutral fp. |
| 00:40.20 | Bagginsww | but its in "horde territory" |
| 00:40.20 | Keolah | ratchet _is_ neutral ;p |
| 00:40.31 | Bagginsww | the zone is "horde" |
| 00:40.40 | Bagginsww | as far as pvp flagging |
| 00:40.44 | Zeal | aye |
| 00:41.15 | Bagginsww | so the flightpoint makes it easy to get into a horde territory for raid purposes |
| 00:41.35 | Keolah | Which is why the Crossroads gets raided 12 times a day. |
| 00:41.40 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 00:42.21 | Bagginsww | technically the closest horde have to "port to alliance lands" is through gnomeregan |
| 00:42.33 | Zeal | you're saying you want something similar to the barrens for alliance then. can ony lreally think that being a change of wetlands and westfall together, but the later isn't really viable given the defias lore. |
| 00:43.02 | Bagginsww | well turning westfall into "contested" makes some sense, as its "independent" in lore |
| 00:43.08 | Zeal | *think of that as being |
| 00:43.21 | Bagginsww | or keeping it alliance, and ading some neutral fp |
| 00:43.25 | Zeal | you don't want it contested if you're emulating the barrens |
| 00:43.29 | Bagginsww | right |
| 00:43.40 | Zeal | but a horde presence there makes no sense. |
| 00:43.50 | Bagginsww | you odn't want a leveling zone that early to be contested |
| 00:43.50 | Zeal | neutral too |
| 00:44.00 | Zeal | ofc. |
| 00:44.06 | Bagginsww | horde have to go to westfall for one quest, that's all :p |
| 00:44.09 | Bagginsww | druid quest i think |
| 00:44.12 | Bagginsww | iirc |
| 00:45.10 | Bagginsww | however, the goblin history in wetlands might work out to create a mini neutral quest hub |
| 00:45.16 | Bagginsww | erm westfall Imean |
| 00:45.32 | Bagginsww | a few goblins that want both sides to "free their enslaved bretheren" |
| 00:45.35 | Zeal | wetlands could be considered to be southern barrens, and there's plenty of room to add stuff there both in lore and in space. |
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| 00:46.14 | Zeal | wb :p |
| 00:46.17 | Bagginsww | in deadmines |
| 00:46.37 | Zeal | but not really much room is the problem |
| 00:46.55 | Bagginsww | well you could probably fit it to the sw, there isn't much there already. |
| 00:47.10 | Bagginsww | near the back entrance to dead mines |
| 00:47.15 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:47.29 | Bagginsww | right now its one or two gnoll groups there LOL |
| 00:47.41 | Zeal | where the hidden doors are meant to be? :p |
| 00:47.41 | Bagginsww | I'm not talking about the beach |
| 00:47.51 | Bagginsww | I didn't say on the mountain either |
| 00:47.54 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:48.02 | Bagginsww | just in the grass area |
| 00:48.09 | Zeal | still too small imo |
| 00:48.13 | Bagginsww | have you seen the outpost in aszhara? |
| 00:48.14 | Zeal | too crowded too |
| 00:48.19 | Zeal | which? |
| 00:48.23 | Zeal | horde? |
| 00:48.26 | Bagginsww | either |
| 00:48.31 | Bagginsww | they have one tent |
| 00:48.36 | Bagginsww | and a flightpath |
| 00:48.48 | Bagginsww | 2 npcs tops |
| 00:48.58 | Zeal | goblins are only going to be somewhere protifable though ;) |
| 00:49.07 | Bagginsww | not if they are trying to save their kind |
| 00:49.11 | Bagginsww | like if one escaped |
| 00:49.17 | Zeal | doubt it, lol |
| 00:49.18 | Bagginsww | you did read the backhistory right? |
| 00:49.24 | Zeal | hm? |
| 00:49.29 | Bagginsww | [[westfall]] |
| 00:49.45 | Bagginsww | I'm not pulling goblins out of my ass |
| 00:49.55 | Bagginsww | they are already part of the story there |
| 00:50.14 | Bagginsww | as I recall they had a huge fight with the defias lost it and got enslaved |
| 00:50.34 | Zeal | nothing on the page about ogblins other than the infobox. |
| 00:50.38 | Zeal | *goblins |
| 00:51.26 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Defias_Brotherhood |
| 00:51.28 | Bagginsww | its there |
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| 00:53.18 | Zeal | ok, so i still don't see goblins going to save their kind. |
| 00:53.43 | Zeal | defending their market, sure. but they've failed that already, and thus it's gone. |
| 00:56.29 | Bagginsww | hey kirkburn |
| 00:56.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Species#Problems_with_this_page.2C_and_accuracy |
| 00:56.37 | Bagginsww | kirochi is still at it... |
| 00:56.49 | Bagginsww | I really don't think he's getting my point |
| 00:57.24 | Bagginsww | But zeal, there are plenty of quests were goblins have you doing the same kind of thing |
| 00:57.26 | Bagginsww | elsewhere |
| 00:57.42 | Bagginsww | like the goblin that has you attack his own kind in revenge in Stonetalon |
| 00:57.57 | Bagginsww | no monetary gain involved |
| 00:58.24 | Zeal | fighting off rival business. |
| 00:58.38 | Zeal | they're protect their business only, that's all i'm saying. |
| 00:58.38 | Bagginsww | actually he was tossed out of the business |
| 00:58.42 | Zeal | *they'll |
| 00:58.51 | Bagginsww | he was former member of the company |
| 00:59.21 | Zeal | aye, but he's setup his own now, so wants to see them fail so he can take advantage of their failure. |
| 00:59.28 | Bagginsww | actually goblins would have a huge business there playing the defias against everyone else. |
| 00:59.31 | Bagginsww | they edon't like to choose sides |
| 00:59.43 | Bagginsww | they like using all sides |
| 00:59.56 | Zeal | but for mthe sounds of it, they've had no luck with dealing with defias both in battle and in business. |
| 00:59.57 | Bagginsww | but goblins aren't as callous as you made them out to be :p |
| 01:00.00 | Bagginsww | at least not in the rpg |
| 01:00.02 | MrUseful | Arena Points updated. You are eligible for points if: Team fought min. 10 matches and you participated in 30% of the matches. |
| 01:00.31 | Zeal | :o |
| 01:01.49 | Bagginsww | also if they can get the horde and alliance to fight for them, well they have a chance of getting their market back there. |
| 01:02.00 | Bagginsww | plust make money off them |
| 01:02.30 | Bagginsww | this is why you find goblins in new areas, offering clear quests :p |
| 01:03.01 | Bagginsww | you do their dirty work so they can move in or back in :p |
| 01:03.23 | Bagginsww | its usually "not against a fellow company" type quests |
| 01:04.39 | Zeal | a quest goblin, sure. but not a flight path, vendor etc. |
| 01:05.24 | Bagginsww | ok why is a neutral flight path goblin in quel'thalas? |
| 01:05.43 | Bagginsww | or in ungoro |
| 01:06.01 | Bagginsww | alot of the "neutral fligh tpath goblins" make little sense going bying your system |
| 01:06.12 | Zeal | first one is gameplay neccesity. second threre's nothing wrong with him being there. |
| 01:06.45 | Bagginsww | so you admit their can be some on purpose for "gameplay necessity" |
| 01:07.05 | Zeal | and he's only there recently keep in mind, so even if there was, it was a gameplay neccesity agaim. |
| 01:07.11 | Zeal | yes |
| 01:07.21 | Zeal | but your suggestion for westfall wouldn't be imo |
| 01:07.23 | Bagginsww | and who said the one near a goblin encampment in westfall necessarily has to be a "goblin flightpath" it could be horde flightpath only |
| 01:07.34 | Bagginsww | as there is already an alliance one there |
| 01:07.45 | Bagginsww | perhaps someone connected to Smite |
| 01:08.06 | Bagginsww | anyways I gotta go, off to class in 20 minutes |
| 01:08.06 | Zeal | you choose the idea, lol. i already said a horde presence made no sense anyways. |
| 01:08.11 | Zeal | kk, ttyl. |
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| 02:13.05 | vargran | hi everyone |
| 02:13.19 | Kirkburn | Hullo there |
| 02:14.54 | vargran | are there any APIes that will give me number and coordinates of marks on the minimap? |
| 02:15.17 | vargran | under marks I mean those points setted up by "Find Minerals" or "Find Herbs" options |
| 02:15.22 | dylanm | Like, tracking and stuff? No. |
| 02:15.32 | Gnarfoz | not exposed to the customizable UI :< |
| 02:15.33 | vargran | pity :( |
| 02:15.56 | Gnarfoz | not even created by blizzard UI code it seems, at least I haven't found anything yet ^^ |
| 02:17.03 | vargran | there is some GetMapLandmarkInfo but it works strange |
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| 02:49.07 | DuTempete | <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn! |
| 02:49.18 | Kirkburn | <insert ({) smiley> DuTempete! |
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| 02:56.38 | DuTempete | so what are you losers up to? |
| 02:56.55 | pcj | *sigh* |
| 02:57.06 | DuTempete | What's wrong? |
| 02:57.17 | pcj | my ISP is being stupid |
| 02:57.28 | DuTempete | How is that different from any other day? |
| 02:57.30 | Kirkburn | Tell it not to be |
| 02:58.06 | DuTempete | One of these days I'm going to get so sick of seeing server messages from pcj, I'm going to block them. :P |
| 02:58.28 | Kirkburn | One day I'm going to block pcj :P |
| 02:59.27 | DuTempete | Bah, what's he done to you? |
| 03:00.18 | Kirkburn | Everything. |
| 03:00.53 | DuTempete | :( |
| 03:01.01 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 03:01.35 | DuTempete | You're being mean to pcj. :( |
| 03:01.51 | Kirkburn | Well, he smells. |
| 03:02.06 | Kirkburn | It's not my fault he smells |
| 03:02.18 | pcj | I blame Adys for that |
| 03:02.36 | DuTempete | Has Adys been rubbing his armpits onyou? |
| 03:03.12 | pcj | Something like that |
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| 03:24.54 | [XP-day-7332372] | Hello? |
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| 05:05.09 | Zeal | Kirkburn, you might want to take a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AElinks-zone&diff=1021569&oldid=836722 (iirc new db sites require discussion) |
| 05:06.53 | Zeal | plus the site sucks and has nothing to do with providing zone info. |
| 05:26.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | Thanks for pointing it out Zeal |
| 05:26.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | Gnight all! |
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| 14:04.36 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Blood Pact: Let's lock and roll to 60! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/blood-pact-lets-lock-and-roll-to-60/ |
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| 14:29.02 | ralfWORK | what is the max respec cost again? |
| 14:29.05 | ralfWORK | 50g? 100g? |
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| 14:35.58 | winkiller | 50 |
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| 14:36.20 | ralfWORK | ok thanks |
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| 14:36.53 | ralfWORK | flipping a coin to do kara holy or shadow tonight :P |
| 14:37.20 | ralfWORK | wtb toon cloner :( |
| 14:38.40 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: ECA Unveils New GameCulture Site - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/12/05/eca-unveils-new-gameculture-site/ |
| 14:44.13 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Lady Vashj and Al'ar Hotfixes, Solarian Strategy - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-4399-1.html |
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| 14:52.13 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Morogrim Tidewalker Strategy - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-3257-1.html |
| 14:52.19 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: The Burning Crusade Armor Sets - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-2467-1.html |
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| 15:00.55 | ralfWORK | grandenetworks? lolololol |
| 15:02.28 | FireSide | i dont pic my works ISP |
| 15:04.22 | FireSide | what kinda idiot makes fun of something like that anyways |
| 15:08.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Gazing down on Thunder Bluff - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/around-azeroth-gazing-down-on-thunder-bluff/ |
| 15:24.21 | ralfWORK | make fun of? naw, never that |
| 15:24.28 | ralfWORK | it's just a funny name |
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| 16:03.44 | DuTempete | Hellooooooooo! |
| 16:05.12 | DuTempete | omg, boring |
| 16:05.39 | DuTempete | <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn|sleep, even though you're sleeping :( |
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| 17:08.52 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Separating the players from their classes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/separating-the-players-from-their-classes/ |
| 17:10.13 | Bagginsww | hah so I just called world of warcraft comic to tell them I didn't get my first 2 issues |
| 17:10.30 | Bagginsww | and the lady was like well you ordered in november right? you'll be starting in januarary |
| 17:10.35 | Bagginsww | then she looked at her record was like woah |
| 17:10.36 | sacarasc | it probably sucks anyway... |
| 17:10.41 | Bagginsww | yoou preordered in septermber |
| 17:10.48 | Bagginsww | I'll try to get you those issues if I can |
| 17:11.17 | Bagginsww | and I let her know that if she couldn't get the issues I'd rather cancel my order, and I left her with my phone number to contact me |
| 17:11.40 | Bagginsww | I mean if it sucks or not I don't want to start in the middle of the story you know? |
| 17:14.00 | pcj | that's AWESOME baggins |
| 17:14.15 | Bagginsww | thanks. It helps to be nice on the phone ;) |
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| 17:14.26 | Bagginsww | not show any anger :) |
| 17:14.50 | Bagginsww | even if I found out that their screwup means I won't get the issue I won't be mean to the employees its not my way. |
| 17:17.20 | ^RaK^ | im only nasty to the ones who wake me up by making unwanted calls :x |
| 17:18.42 | Bagginsww | agrees with you there |
| 17:18.49 | Bagginsww | I tend to ignore the phone or pick it up and slam it :p |
| 17:19.59 | Bagginsww | still I hear others have gotten the first issue by pointing out to them that they preordered a month in advance. |
| 17:20.20 | Bagginsww | too many of them automatically assumed people ordered in november :p |
| 17:35.27 | ralfWORK | you know, I guess I'm a freak |
| 17:35.36 | ralfWORK | but I don't think I'd get a WoW comic |
| 17:37.29 | ralfWORK | any +hit rating experts here? |
| 17:37.47 | ralfWORK | curious about how +hit rating impacts specials for rogues and fury warriors |
| 17:40.55 | ralfWORK | from what I seem to understand, it sounds like 142 hit rating (and not any talents) would make specials hit all the time |
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| 18:02.26 | Bagginsww | The reason people buy comics is the same reason people buy novels they want more stories. |
| 18:03.01 | Bagginsww | if someone plays WoW purely for the gameplay they aren't likely to be interested in stories |
| 18:04.55 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Tales from the Lion's Pride Inn: Premiere! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/tales-from-the-lions-pride-inn-premiere/ |
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| 19:08.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Bring your character home with FigurePrints - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/bring-your-character-home-with-figureprints/ |
| 19:09.54 | DuTempete | <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn! |
| 19:10.10 | Kirkburn | <insert (elmo) smiley> DuTempete! |
| 19:10.28 | Fisker- | <insert suicide note> #wowwiki! |
| 19:11.44 | pcj | <insert gun/noose into Fisker's hand> |
| 19:12.33 | Fisker- | awww noes |
| 19:14.54 | Fisker- | why aren't anyone trying to stop me? :< |
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| 19:32.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Jean Claude van Damme to star in "What's your game" ad - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/jean-claude-van-damme-to-star-in-whats-your-game-ad/ |
| 19:36.01 | Fisker- | O SHI- awesome |Pixel| |
| 19:36.22 | Fisker- | bah |
| 19:36.25 | Fisker- | thought it was out now |
| 19:40.50 | Fisker- | http://media.wow-europe.com/viewer/wow_video.htm?vid=mrt_de&dir=eutv/&img=mrt hoho Teomyr |
| 19:41.02 | Fisker- | hals maul idiot! |
| 19:42.55 | sacarasc | hahahaha |
| 19:43.01 | sacarasc | mr t in german... |
| 19:43.02 | sacarasc | crazy |
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| 19:54.37 | Krolmor | g'day good people |
| 19:57.47 | DuTempete | g'day Krolmar |
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| 19:58.06 | pcj | yo |
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| 19:59.20 | sannse | 'lo |
| 19:59.34 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 19:59.51 | Fisker- | wikipedia have a lot of broken links because of the game characters article removal |
| 20:04.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Enter to win a TCG Feast of Winter's Veil set from Upper Deck and WoW Insider - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/enter-to-win-a-tcg-feast-of-winters-veil-set-from-upper-deck-an/ |
| 20:06.17 | Dotted | blizzard needs to hire chuck norris already |
| 20:06.55 | Dotted | and let him have a holy priest to shatter everything we admire in chuck |
| 20:08.12 | DuTempete | Blizzard needs to do a Chuck Norris vs. Mr. T commercial. |
| 20:08.43 | Dotted | Fisker- kan du godt li' pind is? |
| 20:09.52 | ralfWORK | hey don't talk bad about holy priests |
| 20:10.01 | Fisker- | ja Dotted |
| 20:10.02 | Dotted | DuTempete yeah one with TUF and the other with TIO |
| 20:10.06 | Fisker- | also |
| 20:10.07 | Krolmor | chuck norris should be a new boss |
| 20:10.09 | Fisker- | din mor Dotted |
| 20:10.10 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 20:10.29 | Dotted | du kan godt lide at slikke pind is Fisker-? |
| 20:10.30 | Krolmor | better yet, chuck norris should spawn on newbie camped areas |
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| 20:15.53 | Fisker- | ikke lige så meget som jeg kan lide at slikke din mor Dotted D: |
| 20:16.07 | ralfWORK | the best idea I've heard yet is for hogger to be a 25man raid world boss |
| 20:16.20 | ralfWORK | where you have to summon chuck norris to kill him |
| 20:16.40 | Dotted | men fakta er du godt kan lide at slikke pind is? |
| 20:17.05 | Fisker- | ja |
| 20:17.07 | Fisker- | og din mor |
| 20:17.29 | ralfWORK | I bet they modeled the death knight after chuck :( |
| 20:17.38 | Dotted | hmm |
| 20:17.50 | Dotted | troede ikke bøsser var til kvinder? |
| 20:18.17 | Fisker- | nej lige præcis |
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| 21:08.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Shaman and item changes in 2.3.2 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/shaman-and-item-changes-in-2-3-2/ |
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| 21:20.40 | Lalavava | f |
| 21:33.29 | Polarina | |Pixel|: There's a buggy item at the armory page. See the [Pioneer Buckler] at http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Pioneer&searchType=items . When I press it, I get a empty page, like the item doesn't exist. How come? |
| 21:43.20 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=7109 <-weird |
| 21:43.55 | Fisker- | reports having a random enchantment |
| 21:44.04 | ralfWORK | what is the item? |
| 21:46.54 | Polarina | Fisker-: Could be that all items with <Random enchantment> are buggy? |
| 21:48.28 | Fisker- | i'm guessing items without random enchantments listed with random enchantments are buggy |
| 21:49.23 | Polarina | Fisker-: o.O |
| 21:49.43 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25202 |
| 21:49.57 | Fisker- | i'm guessing the problem is the "random enchantment" part of the page |
| 21:50.08 | ralfWORK | I uhm |
| 21:50.24 | ralfWORK | haven't worn a random enchantement in a long time :( |
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| 22:20.54 | [NewzBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: HMS Theramore - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/05/wow-moviewatch-hms-theramore/ |
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| 23:36.33 | Bagginsww | well zeal I found a reference that states that highborne and night elves are seperate races |
| 23:36.52 | Bagginsww | despite their physical appearance |
| 23:37.02 | Bagginsww | being the same |
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