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01:04.06 | Sky2042 | i'm feeling useless... anyone feel like giving me some usefulness? |
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01:33.04 | zeal | Sky2042, wanna be a punchbag? :p |
01:33.14 | Sky2042 | oh boy, what for? |
01:33.23 | Sky2042 | cause i really are bored |
01:33.43 | Zeal | lol, no reason, just bit more useful than you are now ;) |
01:33.59 | Zeal | but seriously, why do you feel useless? |
01:34.15 | Sky2042 | i'm not doing... /anything/ |
01:34.28 | Sky2042 | so why do i get to be a punching bag? |
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01:49.53 | Zeal | i'm procrastinating as always |
01:50.03 | Zeal | so.. meh. |
01:50.23 | Zeal | wow, someone on myspace stole my tag line.. gg |
01:52.06 | Zeal | thought they could hide ti by switching it around, lol. |
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02:05.09 | Sky2042 | is Kirkburn|sleep actually sleeping now?... |
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02:14.48 | Zeal | i'm wondering too |
02:14.58 | Zeal | as i wanted to talk to him about something wikia related :s |
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02:19.45 | Sky2042 | zeal, you know how to force a space in an address bar? |
02:19.54 | Zeal | %20 ? |
02:20.14 | Sky2042 | thx |
02:20.23 | Zeal | np |
02:20.37 | Sky2042 | gah |
02:20.52 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Stubs/Guild has an unnamed guild in the top of the g section, correct? |
02:23.12 | Zeal | not as far as i can see. |
02:23.35 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:_Icer_%28Darksorrow_EU%29 <- needs a space removed after Guild: |
02:23.54 | Sky2042 | i know, b ut i can't |
02:23.55 | Sky2042 | gah |
02:23.59 | Sky2042 | that's what i ment :\ |
02:24.25 | Sky2042 | i can't force the space either. |
02:24.43 | Zeal | huh? |
02:24.57 | Zeal | oh i see.. wtf. |
02:25.28 | Zeal | that's.. weird |
02:25.39 | Sky2042 | we actually had wikia make guild and server real namespaces |
02:25.44 | Sky2042 | which is what is causing the issue |
02:25.45 | Zeal | might a page that was redirected to a dead page cause that? :s |
02:25.53 | Zeal | ohhhh! |
02:25.54 | Zeal | lol |
02:26.00 | Sky2042 | >_< |
02:26.06 | Zeal | gg |
02:26.12 | Sky2042 | wiki thinks there shouldn't be a space there... and there shouldn't be |
02:26.14 | Sky2042 | gah |
02:26.20 | Zeal | beleive it needs to be perged manually fro mthe db then. |
02:26.50 | Sky2042 | i think so |
02:26.53 | Sky2042 | that was my conclusion |
02:30.01 | Sky2042 | i love this song |
02:30.04 | Zeal | either that or a way of accessing the page other than url/link that doesn't auto-correct. |
02:30.13 | Zeal | ie, an admin form of some kind. |
02:30.16 | Zeal | which song? |
02:30.40 | Sky2042 | "Up Is Down" from Pirates 3 |
02:30.53 | Zeal | :s |
02:31.00 | Sky2042 | ? |
02:31.09 | Zeal | never heard it, heh. |
02:31.16 | Zeal | haven't seen the third ;) |
02:31.35 | Sky2042 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=7pmXLjtSEHQ |
02:31.40 | Sky2042 | that's' the song |
02:32.23 | Sky2042 | knowing the context for that one makes it funner too, but it's still a good song, imo |
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02:37.26 | Zeal | just saw the clip |
02:37.27 | Zeal | hehe |
02:37.39 | Zeal | good song either way. |
02:38.12 | Zeal | lol, all pages on ww have been edited atleast twice. |
02:39.19 | Sky2042 | srsly? |
02:39.31 | Zeal | apparently so :p |
02:39.42 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=LuckyCharms&redirect=no wtf? lol i guess they look like them. |
02:40.10 | Sky2042 | loooooooool |
02:42.23 | piu | That's what I always called em |
02:46.35 | Zeal | :p |
02:48.14 | Sky2042 | works for me |
02:48.43 | Sky2042 | like this song to |
02:48.45 | Sky2042 | too |
02:48.46 | Zeal | hm.. i need a new screensaver. i bothered to extended to a second monitor last night, and discovered most of the screensavers i have don't support more than one monitor : / |
02:48.50 | Sky2042 | i love this playlist... |
02:48.53 | Sky2042 | xD |
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03:06.41 | Zeal | interesting.. windows says center is the center of each screen seperately. but tile is across both screens, not each screen seperately. stretch follows center too. |
03:07.09 | Sky2042 | looool |
03:07.45 | Zeal | logic > windows |
03:08.40 | Zeal | so in order to use a multi-monitor desktop in windows, it has to be 1 wallpaper and set to tile. makes so much sense >_> |
03:08.48 | Sky2042 | oh, eff it, i'm adding the 10k contribs item to my page, and there's nothing anyone can do about it! |
03:09.00 | pcj | well there is |
03:09.21 | Sky2042 | hush you |
03:09.46 | Zeal | lol |
03:10.06 | Zeal | have an edit war over it, then when you reack 10k, you can be banned ;) |
03:11.21 | Sky2042 | na na hey hey goodbye! |
03:12.23 | Zeal | :p |
03:12.39 | Sky2042 | seriously, that's the song that's playing :O |
03:12.44 | pcj | bah, not yet 15k |
03:13.00 | Sky2042 | no 15k category |
03:13.00 | pcj | brb |
03:14.29 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: UpdateAction should fire OnAttributeChanged - http://www.wowblues.com/us/updateaction-should-fire-onattributechanged-2765957790.html |
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10:57.55 | laurly | hmm whats up with freenode port 6668? |
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10:58.32 | Kaso | hmm? |
10:58.51 | laurly | [11:57] * Connect retry #3 chat.freenode.net (6668) (dns pool) |
10:59.03 | laurly | wouldnt let me in on that port had to use 6667 |
11:01.43 | laurly | any reason we cant have npcbox and mobbox auto cat location - NPC is categorized from in [[Category:Zone:Superzone]] to [[Category:Superzone mobs]] or [[Category:Superzone NPCs]]. |
11:02.25 | laurly | i have a hangover im not touching anything with out checking first |
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11:32.07 | Corgan | @_@ |
11:32.09 | Corgan | whoops |
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12:17.55 | Veiro | anyone knows anything about The new town that will be added in the new patch? |
12:23.33 | Srosh | www.wowwiki.com/Mudsprocket ? |
12:24.38 | Veiro | N1 |
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13:16.27 | Veiro | this channel is more dead than my little brothers sex life >.< |
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13:18.53 | Teomyr | adys |
13:18.56 | Teomyr | new quotes |
13:19.02 | Adys | woot |
13:19.07 | |Pixel| | woot |
13:19.19 | Adys | ~wwquotes |
13:19.19 | infobot | http://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.html |
13:20.10 | Teomyr | mainly the wowhead ones though :P |
13:20.17 | Adys | ~whquotes |
13:20.18 | infobot | http://teo.selfip.net/wowhead-quotes.html |
13:21.12 | Adys | [11:10:36] <Corgan> [12:10:47] [B] [Dmonz]: Type "/afk report" to see who's reported you afk |
13:21.12 | Adys | [11:10:36] <Corgan> [12:11:05] Karnivool-Hellscream has left the battle |
13:21.12 | Adys | [11:10:36] <Corgan> [12:11:08] Satus-Spinebreaker has left the battle |
13:21.16 | Adys | this is so great |
13:30.15 | pcj | no |
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15:48.36 | Kaso | iPod touch!!!! |
15:48.39 | Kaso | mine mine miine |
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16:40.57 | moveax | I'm giving this Shadow Healer build a try on my Priest now. Anyone here used it before for solo'ing? |
16:48.10 | Kaso | Shadow healer build ? |
16:48.18 | moveax | yeah |
16:48.23 | moveax | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bZcxtcc0VZVGMtMzRhxL |
16:49.05 | Kaso | Hmm, interesting idea, but im not so sure |
16:49.14 | moveax | Looks good to me |
16:49.19 | Kaso | Heard the phrase, "Jack of all trades, master of none" ? |
16:49.24 | moveax | You can heal, and you have the added improvements to your shadow spells |
16:49.27 | Kaso | You can do damage and heal, but nither well |
16:50.27 | moveax | I dunno, seems to be going pretty well |
16:51.41 | moveax | I need to give a good Displine build a try |
16:51.52 | moveax | discipline |
16:52.25 | Kaso | What level are you? |
16:52.37 | moveax | 70 |
17:00.27 | moveax | seems to be going well |
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17:10.08 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: As Good As I Once Was - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/04/wow-moviewatch-as-good-as-i-once-was/ |
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17:31.24 | twoshadetod | anything like fraps for nix? |
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17:33.37 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn, every time i think of how to run a wiki or design it's front page, i just think of wowwiki |
17:33.40 | Hobinheim|work | look what you did... :) |
17:34.15 | Hobinheim|work | so if you see any wikis out there about programming languages or a cappella, don't be surprised if they look JUST like wowwiki |
17:34.23 | Kirkburn | :) |
17:34.47 | Hobinheim|work | if you search google for a cappella wiki, i'm almost near the top |
17:34.57 | Hobinheim|work | my next goal is to take programming language wiki |
17:34.58 | moveax | :P |
17:35.11 | Hobinheim|work | (not the same wiki) |
17:35.21 | Hobinheim|work | programmers don't make good singers |
17:35.55 | moveax | and good singers don't make programmers. |
17:36.20 | Hobinheim|work | untrue. they're godlike in all aspects. ALL aspects, know what i'm sayin' ladies |
17:36.39 | moveax | they don'thave the slightest clue. |
17:37.33 | Kaso | Jonthan Coulton seems to suggest you are wrong with that programmers != singers thing |
17:43.36 | Fisker- | attack of the Bibi |
17:43.51 | Hobinheim|work | the code monkeys guy? |
17:44.24 | Hobinheim|work | i love the g4 show code monkeys |
17:45.59 | Kaso | Yah he is the code monkey guy, he also did the Portal End of Game Song |
17:46.35 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: What classes (specs) draw the worst players? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/what-classes-specs-draw-the-worst-players-2720564918.html |
17:46.58 | Hobinheim|work | rogues |
17:47.27 | Hobinheim|work | possibly hunters, but i feel bad for saying that after finding out how smooth hunter's mark + pet attack is |
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18:08.48 | GhostGirl | Fewer servers would be better, I wish mine would merge with one that has things like users and an economy :P |
18:12.14 | moveax | I've found a decent bug |
18:12.20 | moveax | A beneficial bug |
18:12.37 | Kaso | Ooh |
18:12.39 | moveax | to people attuning themselves to BT |
18:12.55 | moveax | The third quest where you have to get the four medallions |
18:13.19 | moveax | from the dudes surrounded by totems? Well Eykenen has a large hill next to him |
18:13.47 | moveax | If you fl on to the hill, and attack the totems from there, you only aggro a single elemental |
18:14.05 | moveax | and when you destroy the third totem, Eykenen doesn'tcome at you |
18:14.13 | moveax | and nor do the elementals |
18:14.23 | moveax | Making it a very easy kill indeed |
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18:20.45 | foxlit | they're all trivial at 70 in greens, tbh |
18:21.18 | moveax | but still, it'sa beenficial bug that some, like me, may find useful |
18:22.08 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Baron Soosdon talks about TFH - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/04/baronsoosdon-talks-about-tfh/ |
18:22.37 | foxlit | "it's a pathing exploit I may benefit from"? |
18:23.22 | moveax | indeed |
18:23.32 | moveax | It just makes faster and easier. |
18:24.07 | foxlit | it's trivial to begin with :) |
18:24.45 | moveax | It'supto you, it you're wiki,i'm just trying to provide info. if you're going to be so pedantic over it, i wont bother in the future. |
18:25.47 | foxlit | teehee, pedantic and "it you're" in one sentence. |
18:26.27 | moveax | teehee, someone making an idiot of themselves. teehee |
18:28.58 | moveax | I signed up many moons ago and still haven't got my activation e-mail. |
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18:44.21 | laurly | foxlit you see any reason we cant alter npcbox and mobbox to auto location cat? |
18:45.01 | foxlit | we can; they haven't been doing that historically, though |
18:50.51 | laurly | yeah i know |
18:50.55 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #115:Blah blah blah... - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/115.html |
19:18.08 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: AddOn Spotlight: Visual Heal - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/04/addon-spotlight-visual-heal/ |
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22:10.43 | moveax | If only I could find a guild that is willing to put me through the attunement stages. |
22:14.08 | dreamss | for? |
22:15.35 | moveax | Kara, Black Temple, Mount Hyjal. |
22:15.47 | moveax | Requite instances, and PuGs on Dommhamer/EU are shite. |
22:16.00 | moveax | And my guild hardly puts in any effort to help people get attuned. |
22:16.12 | moveax | They moan, "We need healers! /cry" |
22:16.19 | moveax | And I'm a fucking level 70 holy priest |
22:16.30 | moveax | GET ME ATTUNED IDIOTS! |
22:18.08 | foxlit | Have no interest in attuning people for the sake of getting them attuned. |
22:18.21 | moveax | Absolutley correct. |
22:18.35 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: 05/11 - Realm Restart: Warsong - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/0511-realm-restart-warsong-1511731733.html |
22:18.39 | moveax | Therefore, interrupting their own game play. |
22:18.42 | foxlit | (and damn them for removing SSC/TK reqs!) |
22:18.45 | moveax | SMART! |
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23:07.54 | Adys | Kaso: ping |
23:07.59 | Kaso | Hey adys |
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23:20.06 | Percephene | hi all |
23:20.22 | Percephene | anyone around that i can ask about the WW:PC policy? |
23:21.53 | Percephene | i have a question regarding the moving of Kralnor to Server:Ner'zhul/Kralnor |
23:22.03 | Kaso | Ask, and if anyone around knows they will anwser |
23:22.41 | Percephene | well I'm reading the WW:PC policy atm and i want to ask if it actually applies in this case |
23:22.56 | Percephene | Kralnor is a well known figure of legend now, akin to Alamo or Leeroy |
23:23.15 | Percephene | I think the article on him warrants being left in the main namespace |
23:23.20 | Percephene | its not vanity |
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23:24.39 | pcj | WW:PC always applies |
23:26.44 | Percephene | perhaps i need to reread it then |
23:27.11 | Percephene | because to me theres a difference btwn me making a page about my toon whom only myself and my friends would know and someone very well known or famouse |
23:27.13 | Percephene | famous* |
23:28.13 | pcj | It doesn't have anything to do with popularity |
23:28.19 | pcj | It has to do with being a player character |
23:28.26 | Percephene | i understand that |
23:28.39 | Percephene | i just feel that the article surpassses being merely about the character |
23:28.49 | Percephene | and i need to know how this will impact my own kralnor article |
23:29.24 | Percephene | which has not been moved |
23:29.49 | pcj | which is |
23:29.59 | Percephene | http://wowwiki.com/Kralnor_%28alternative%29 |
23:30.51 | pcj | that should definitely not be in the main namespace |
23:31.42 | Percephene | why not? :( |
23:31.47 | Percephene | its been happily there for a long time |
23:32.07 | Percephene | almost a year |
23:32.14 | pcj | Doesn't mean it belongs there |
23:32.36 | Percephene | can u tell me why u dont think it does? |
23:32.38 | Percephene | please? |
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23:33.59 | Percephene | its categorised as Silly: "limited to material created by the fan community, or out of game joke material that Blizzard releases but are not intended to be sources of lore; such as april fool's day jokes, refrences to WoW in pop culture by other shows, or books, etc." |
23:34.09 | Percephene | I think it fits there exactly |
23:34.17 | Percephene | and ive had very positive responses to it |
23:38.52 | Percephene | woah hold up! |
23:38.58 | Percephene | you moved it into my userspace?! |
23:39.03 | Percephene | thats not on dude |
23:39.26 | Percephene | i checked with an admin before i moved it into mainspace |
23:39.43 | Percephene | pcj: excuse me, can u not move my article please |
23:40.10 | pcj | please read WW:PA |
23:40.13 | Percephene | i have |
23:40.20 | Percephene | and i came here to DISCUSS it |
23:40.25 | pcj | then take the action it indicates |
23:40.27 | Percephene | not have my article pulled |
23:40.41 | Percephene | could you please discuss it with me rather than just acting? |
23:40.43 | pcj | it wasn't "pulled" |
23:40.46 | pcj | it was merely moved where it belongs |
23:40.59 | Percephene | it belongs where it was |
23:41.10 | Percephene | where it has been for the last 11 months |
23:41.13 | pcj | No it doesn't |
23:41.29 | Percephene | are u an admin? |
23:41.42 | pcj | no, but WW:PA is policy |
23:41.48 | Percephene | i understand that |
23:41.51 | Percephene | i just wanted to know |
23:41.58 | pcj | enforcement of which empowers every user to take action |
23:42.05 | Percephene | i know that! |
23:42.17 | pcj | then why are you whining |
23:42.36 | Percephene | could u please discuss it with me calmly rather than just stating that its a policy? |
23:42.40 | pcj | ... |
23:42.41 | Percephene | im not whining |
23:42.46 | pcj | i am being calm |
23:42.46 | Percephene | and im getting upset at ur tone |
23:42.48 | pcj | it is a policy |
23:42.52 | Percephene | i came on here to discuss the policy! |
23:43.02 | pcj | now you're the one not being calm |
23:43.04 | Percephene | with regards these particular articles |
23:43.10 | Percephene | no im not because im upset |
23:43.19 | Percephene | but im trying |
23:43.30 | pcj | i can't discuss it with you calmly if you're not being calm |
23:43.43 | Percephene | im not greatly involved at wowwiki but i am at other wikis, so the policies here are new to me |
23:43.53 | Percephene | thats why i wanted someone to explain it and discuss it with me |
23:44.00 | Percephene | not just move my article :( |
23:44.20 | Percephene | and im trying to be calm :P please just bear with me here |
23:44.27 | Percephene | im very passionate about this subject ;P |
23:44.35 | pcj | your article has large NPOV sections which don't work well with a fact-based wiki |
23:44.44 | pcj | people have tried to edit it and you've reverted their edits |
23:44.52 | pcj | making it clear you wish to retain control over your work |
23:44.56 | Percephene | ive discussed the edits |
23:45.07 | Percephene | and i dont wish to retain control, i understand the nature of wikis |
23:45.28 | Percephene | i can only think of one edit that you might be refering to and i explained my case on its talk page |
23:46.03 | Percephene | i understand its mostly a work of fiction, thats why when i first sought to put it up on wowwiki i put it in my userspace and discussed it here with an admin. |
23:46.18 | pcj | that still leaves you as the primary author of a work of largely biased fan fiction which is replicated more factually elsewhere |
23:46.26 | pcj | if that's not a candidate for WW:PA action i don't know what is |
23:46.31 | Percephene | hence the "alternative" |
23:46.59 | Percephene | its very typical of the way the warlock community at large views this figure |
23:47.10 | Percephene | what does WW:PA mean? |
23:47.21 | Percephene | and what do you mean sorry bleeter? |
23:47.23 | pcj | [[WW:PA]] |
23:47.24 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:PA |
23:47.39 | Percephene | ty |
23:48.57 | Percephene | i just came in here to discuss policy not all this :( |
23:49.47 | Percephene | the wiki im more active on has a lot of healthy discussion and policies can be changed or exceptions made |
23:50.01 | Percephene | guess i expected the same or better here |
23:50.18 | bleeter | Percephene: there's a link to the Urban Dictionary at the bottom of your article, but from what I can tell there's nothing on the UD which defines the word you're linking to |
23:50.41 | Percephene | well there certainly was at the time of writing the article, i shall check it now |
23:51.32 | Percephene | looks like its been removed from UD. ill update the page accordingly |
23:54.05 | bleeter | I also note that the 'book of kralnor' link you provide at the top links to some pron domain squatter |
23:54.21 | Percephene | yes the original Book of Kralnor hosting seems to have ended |
23:54.31 | Percephene | I wasnt sure how else to credit that site |
23:55.08 | pcj | web.archive.org or something |
23:55.09 | Percephene | links aside though im still under the belief that there must be a place in namespace for works of this kind |
23:55.56 | bleeter | reads like fanfic to me |
23:56.25 | bleeter | anyways, I'm off... exam in two hours |
23:56.28 | bleeter | toodle pip :) |
23:56.35 | Percephene | well im not too up on the definition of fanfic these days but that certainly wasnt my intention nor goal for the page |
23:56.45 | Percephene | clearly its missed its mark |
23:58.01 | Percephene | shame since it was so highly ranked on google searches |
23:58.26 | pcj | for what, kralnor? |
23:58.35 | Percephene | yeah |
23:58.40 | pcj | lol i'm not surprised |
23:58.47 | pcj | maybe he's not as popular as you think |
23:59.11 | Percephene | erm uve never visited the warlock forums have u? |
23:59.19 | Percephene | and clearly blizzard think he is |
23:59.36 | Percephene | he has a TCG card not to mention the references on the official site |
23:59.43 | Percephene | so yeah, i think he is just as popular as i think he is |