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00:48.40 | Kirkburn | Yay for Bibi - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=935121&oldid=935063 |
00:50.03 | Bibi` | The Mind Control and Possession action bar has been revamped. |
00:50.06 | Bibi` | When you are possessing a target (Priest Mind Control, Eyes of the Beast, using a Steam Tonk, etc), you now get their action bar as your primary action bar rather than having a mini action bar above your normal action bar. |
00:50.11 | Bibi` | I think it was a replacement, not an addition |
00:50.17 | Bibi` | there is another one iirc |
00:51.05 | Kirkburn | Removed the other line, ta |
00:57.53 | Kirkburn | Btw, Company of Heroes is pretty cool :P |
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01:01.19 | Bibi` | didn't like it |
01:01.32 | Bibi` | well, it's nice to play the campaign once |
01:01.37 | Bibi` | that's all |
01:02.24 | Kirkburn | Like explosm? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3eG7qn2hI and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NDtKax3nqgE |
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01:54.46 | Sky2042_afk | Dotted: yes it does. |
02:04.09 | Anitora | hi |
02:09.03 | Kirkburn | hullo |
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02:29.47 | Sky2042 | zomgkirkburnisuprightnow |
02:29.49 | Sky2042 | whatcha doin? |
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02:49.52 | Kirkburn | Tim Schafer + Jack Black = yay! http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/?p=2548 |
02:51.23 | Kirkburn | Hey Sky2042 |
02:51.35 | Kirkburn | I'm going to bed, and hoping for a lovely wake up call |
02:51.44 | Sky2042 | lol, from who? |
02:51.50 | Kirkburn | Never you mind :) |
02:52.01 | Kirkburn | Btw, Brutal Legend looks awesome |
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02:52.14 | Sky2042 | random? |
02:52.32 | Kirkburn | C'mon Jack Black in a video game, with the guy behind Psychonauts at the helm. Pure bliss. |
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02:53.33 | Kirkburn | Evening sannse |
02:53.38 | sannse | 'ning |
02:53.53 | Sky2042 | that looks like a rather pointless game, and i was only halfway through |
02:54.02 | Sky2042 | could be me though. |
02:54.10 | Kirkburn | lol |
02:54.33 | Kirkburn | If you haven't played Psychonauts, you damn well should |
02:55.14 | Kirkburn | It was somewhat of a revelation in how to make a good comedic platform-adventure |
02:57.14 | Sky2042 | not my type, i think. how old is psychonauts? |
02:58.05 | Kirkburn | Two years-ish |
02:58.11 | Kirkburn | It's on Steam |
02:58.27 | Kirkburn | Wow, and only $20 |
02:58.28 | Sky2042 | ah. steam sucks :| |
02:58.39 | Kirkburn | Metascore is 87 |
02:58.52 | Kirkburn | Fixing your issues would take years :P |
02:59.26 | Sky2042 | no doubt |
02:59.27 | Sky2042 | :P |
02:59.52 | Sky2042 | nah, apparently steam doesn't work with "Internet Connection Sharing", which I'm still not quite sure what that does :| |
03:00.03 | Kirkburn | I've played it 3 times now, the imagination in one level of Psychonauts outplays most other games |
03:00.04 | dreamss | its a buildin proxy |
03:00.13 | Sky2042 | dreamss: how to get rid of plx? xD |
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03:00.30 | Kirkburn | It doesn't work with ICS? ouch |
03:00.33 | Kirkburn | Get a router |
03:00.38 | dreamss | its on your network options |
03:00.46 | dreamss | one of your cardds is set for ics |
03:00.49 | Kirkburn | Get a new PC |
03:01.08 | Kirkburn | Get a new mouse. That'll fix it. |
03:01.14 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: PC... yeah... no. |
03:01.28 | Sky2042 | bought this one a year or two ago from a wee bit of cash I saved up |
03:01.29 | Kirkburn | :P |
03:01.35 | dreamss | ok |
03:01.38 | Sky2042 | jipped because i wanted screen space. oh well. |
03:01.41 | dreamss | go to network options |
03:01.48 | dreamss | propities your connection |
03:01.54 | dreamss | 2nd or 3rd tab |
03:02.19 | Kirkburn | I'm still amazed by the sheer size of my new PC. Caverous inside. |
03:02.20 | Adys | Fisker-: you there? |
03:04.08 | dreamss | heh |
03:04.13 | dreamss | cant find linkx on ICS |
03:04.15 | dreamss | google ftw |
03:05.10 | Kirkburn | Omg, new Double Fine (developer of Brutal Legend) website! http://www.doublefine.com/news.php |
03:05.24 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: you're so strange |
03:05.37 | Kirkburn | Seriously, that website is great |
03:05.47 | Kirkburn | Tim Schafer makes the weirdest news posts |
03:06.11 | Adys | it looks like a pre 2001 post 2002 website :P |
03:06.28 | Adys | (brb) |
03:06.43 | Fisker- | You can now fish in Ironforge again. |
03:06.54 | Fisker- | I got myself a cooked fish! |
03:07.25 | Kirkburn | ...But not our pals at Sierra. They have embraced this game like a mama bear hugging a baby cub. And when the cub was hungry, the mamma bear reached into the creek and pulled out a salmon for us, named Jack Black. And he was delicious. After we ate that salmon (and by “ate” I mean cast him in our starring role, the roadie Eddie Riggs) the baby cub said, “That salmon was perfect, but now we’d like something swee |
03:07.26 | Kirkburn | t. Maybe a thin chocolate wafer,” the momma bear reached into that cool, mountain stream and pulled out Lemmy Kilmister from Motörhead |
03:07.33 | dreamss | http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/serverbroadband.htm |
03:07.38 | dreamss | there is how to setup ICS |
03:07.42 | dreamss | u just go backwards |
03:08.08 | Kirkburn | And when the baby bear said, “And maybe a single espresso,” the momma bear pulled out Rob Halford from Judas Priest. And when the baby bear said, “Oh, I’m so stuffed. But you know what would really hit the spot would be some Ronnie James Dio,” the momma went into the woods and found a hunter. She stalked that hunter for days, and then charged him, tackled him, and tore out his guts. Then she ate the guts, all |
03:08.08 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
03:08.11 | Fisker- | tl;dr |
03:08.14 | Kirkburn | heh |
03:08.40 | Sky2042 | ok, let me interject this: i'm on a wireless broadband connection... can i kill it without affecting my ability to connect to the internet? :| |
03:08.41 | Kirkburn | After that, the momma bear did many more things. Awesome things. Unspeakable things. And the baby bear was happy. But the baby bear can’t tell you what they are, because they’re secret, and because bears can’t speak English. |
03:08.49 | Fisker- | When you are possessing a target (Priest Mind Control, Eyes of the Beast, using a Steam Tonk, etc), you now get their action bar as your primary action bar rather than having a mini action bar above your normal action bar. |
03:08.50 | Fisker- | :O? |
03:10.50 | Kirkburn | lol, what to do in game stores, as told by Tim Schafer: |
03:10.53 | Kirkburn | "And then see if you can find any pre-owned copies of Psychonauts and move them up to the eye-level shelf, like I do when I go to game stores" |
03:11.14 | Kirkburn | I think I might have to do the same :) |
03:14.36 | Fisker- | Why are people retarded? |
03:15.07 | Fisker- | ooh fun |
03:15.13 | Fisker- | new Firefox design |
03:15.20 | Fisker- | but Microsoft didn't make a new design for IE |
03:15.22 | Fisker- | what gives? |
03:15.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | Fisker-, >_> |
03:15.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | No-one knows what IE8 looks like yet :P |
03:15.50 | Fisker- | ;_; |
03:15.59 | Fisker- | nope |
03:16.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | It'll be more customizable than 7 at least |
03:16.17 | Fisker- | But it usually appears that when Microsoft update their design Firefox usually gets updated with it |
03:17.31 | Fisker- | Divine Favor: When this ability is cast immediately after a critical heal, it will no longer be removed incorrectly. <-yays |
03:18.47 | Adys | Fisker-: ! |
03:19.01 | Fisker- | Adys: ! |
03:19.08 | Adys | Fisker-: ? |
03:19.12 | Fisker- | Bananas! |
03:19.17 | Fisker- | shit is it |
03:19.17 | Adys | oh yeah |
03:19.20 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=1661&p=18943 |
03:19.23 | Adys | :D |
03:19.56 | Adys | made mahself an admin tab :) |
03:19.58 | Fisker- | I don't use Failfox |
03:20.00 | Fisker- | or Firefail |
03:20.05 | Fisker- | or however you wanna put it |
03:20.13 | Adys | http://www.google.fr/search?q=failbook&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a |
03:20.27 | Fisker- | client=firefox-a |
03:20.28 | Fisker- | :< |
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03:20.32 | Adys | yes |
03:20.35 | Adys | you suck |
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03:21.37 | Fisker- | work tiem |
03:21.45 | Adys | failtime |
03:22.27 | Fisker- | no it's not download firefox-time |
03:22.38 | Fisker- | pwnt and so forth |
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03:28.59 | Adys | a bit more to the left |
03:29.53 | Fisker- | :( |
03:29.59 | Adys | PLZ |
03:30.30 | Fisker- | ok :) |
03:30.49 | Adys | ty |
03:31.13 | Fisker- | now it's definitely work tiem |
03:31.14 | Fisker- | bai |
03:31.20 | Adys | bai |
03:35.49 | Paradox | adys! |
03:35.54 | Adys | yessss |
03:35.57 | Paradox | :D |
03:36.10 | Adys | sup |
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04:02.56 | Sky2042 | hmmmm |
04:03.00 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/News |
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04:29.07 | Keolah | I have a new wise saying. |
04:29.11 | Keolah | "There is nothing to fear but the Fear spell." |
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05:02.14 | Sky2042 | pcj: I <3 u |
05:02.21 | Sky2042 | fails to be on |
05:02.22 | Sky2042 | oh well |
05:04.17 | Sky2042 | wtf |
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05:20.07 | Bagginsw | sky you do know that kindom of stormwind is just called "stormwind" most of the time right? |
05:20.32 | Bagginsw | other times its split equally down the middle of Kingdom or nation of stormwind :p |
05:21.11 | Sky2042 | the move was for aestethics. where possible, do try to avoid parantheses |
05:21.16 | Sky2042 | i can't speel |
05:21.17 | Sky2042 | >.> |
05:21.21 | Bagginsw | sky we do that for all the nations |
05:21.27 | Sky2042 | do we now? |
05:21.36 | Bagginsw | [[Lordaeron (kingdom)]] |
05:21.37 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsw meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lordaeron_(kingdom) |
05:21.59 | Bagginsw | we also tend to avoid using too many "blah of blah" |
05:22.16 | Bagginsw | so Isle of Kezan |
05:22.18 | Bagginsw | is just Kezan |
05:22.22 | Sky2042 | does it have the name of "Kingdom of Lordaeron" in lore? |
05:22.23 | Bagginsw | or Kezan Isle |
05:22.40 | Bagginsw | yep same way different sources call it a variety of things |
05:22.52 | Bagginsw | nation of lordaeron, kingdom of lordaeron |
05:22.54 | Sky2042 | then why isn't it at "Kingdom of Lordaeron"? :| |
05:22.56 | Bagginsw | just plain lordaeron |
05:23.05 | Bagginsw | because more source just call it "lordaeron" |
05:23.21 | Bagginsw | stormwind used to be the same way at one time |
05:23.33 | Bagginsw | gotta catch a ride be back in abit |
05:23.35 | Sky2042 | then go with the specific way then? the rd's aren't gonna kill people xD |
05:30.47 | Bagginsww | back |
05:31.15 | Bagginsww | so anyways sky the main issue is that we have like don't generally do Continent of Azeroth, Continent of Lordaeron etc |
05:31.28 | Bagginsww | World of Azeroth :p |
05:32.05 | Bagginsww | in most cases when official articles discuss those concepts, its just plain "Azeroth", "Lordaeron" etc |
05:32.44 | Sky2042 | true, but you /never/ see "Continent of Azeroth". ever. You do see "Kingdom of Azeroth", though |
05:34.10 | Bagginsww | less than just Azeroth though |
05:34.39 | Sky2042 | true, but that's a silly point to be making. |
05:34.50 | Sky2042 | give it it's proper name, no? ;) |
05:34.59 | Sky2042 | s/it's/its/ |
05:35.00 | Bagginsww | proper name is "Azeroth" LOL |
05:36.09 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Alliance_of_Lordaeron |
05:36.51 | Sky2042 | you realize you just proved my point?... |
05:37.06 | Bagginsww | if you go back to thew warcraft 2 manual |
05:37.08 | Bagginsww | its just "azeroth" |
05:37.23 | Bagginsww | actually sky you'll notice I was referencing the info from APG |
05:37.28 | Bagginsww | which is just "azeroth" |
05:37.40 | Sky2042 | fine then, that's azeroth |
05:37.56 | Bagginsww | and in Lands of Conflict, Stormwind is just Stormwind |
05:38.09 | Bagginsww | as are most references to Stormwind in APG as well LOL |
05:38.43 | Sky2042 | and? you still haven't proved the point that the correct name is "Kingdom of ...". More used, yes. Perhaps it was abbreviated to save paper :| |
05:38.54 | Sky2042 | s/proved/disproved/ |
05:40.16 | Bagginsww | proper name is just "Stormwind", LOL |
05:40.29 | Bagginsww | or if you take ToD we could call it "Nation of Stormwind" ;) |
05:40.42 | Sky2042 | then call it Nation of SW. |
05:40.44 | Sky2042 | >_< |
05:41.06 | Bagginsww | or we could call it Country of Stormwind |
05:41.13 | Bagginsww | I've seen that too :) |
05:41.30 | Bagginsww | sometimes all 3 in the same source |
05:41.43 | Bagginsww | with Stormwind being the usual one used |
05:41.57 | Bagginsww | Let's talk Dalaran, its called by dozens of names heh heh |
05:42.07 | Bagginsww | usualyl just Dalaran |
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05:42.32 | Bagginsww | lol |
05:52.55 | Sky2042 | do i want endash or emdash? |
05:59.56 | Sky2042 | lol, nice addition to the history |
05:59.58 | Sky2042 | xD |
05:59.58 | Bagginsww | sky btw Kingdom of Stormwind is Stormwind City too lol |
06:00.05 | Bagginsww | i'm working on converting more of it |
06:01.34 | Bagginsww | we could legally merge kingdom with the city articles |
06:01.58 | Bagginsww | they overlap and share the same population LOL |
06:02.33 | Sky2042 | lol, wtf at "Stormwind (zone)"? |
06:02.52 | Sky2042 | New Stormwind could be merged |
06:03.27 | Sky2042 | yeah, I'd say merge everything back into Stormwind, with a disambig at top of the page for the zone |
06:03.46 | Sky2042 | merge into Stormwind City* |
06:03.56 | Bagginsww | ya sky in LoC stormwind is the entire zone |
06:04.02 | Bagginsww | its its own seperate reigion |
06:04.16 | Bagginsww | ya merge mosto f it into stormwind city |
06:04.49 | Bagginsww | New Stormwind, I think should be left seperate but expanded on |
06:05.00 | Bagginsww | just to further explain its history |
06:05.32 | Sky2042 | isn't it "Stormwind City"? :| |
06:05.37 | Sky2042 | as we know it |
06:05.42 | Sky2042 | that's just duplicating information |
06:05.52 | Bagginsww | well it could be a section within stormwind |
06:05.57 | Bagginsww | stormwind city |
06:06.03 | Sky2042 | sure |
06:06.06 | Bagginsww | but it still needs to be expanded on |
06:06.19 | Sky2042 | i'd put it under history, actually |
06:06.23 | Sky2042 | === === |
06:12.59 | Bagginsww | seems fair |
06:14.16 | Sky2042 | did a little reorganizing |
06:14.51 | Bagginsww | as long as reorganizing doesn't mean splitting the paragraph up |
06:15.34 | Bagginsww | and I'm still in the middle of working on it |
06:15.41 | Bagginsww | so I may not have all citaiton sdown yet :p |
06:15.57 | Sky2042 | what are you planning?.... |
06:16.06 | Sky2042 | (SW City should be the main page... xD |
06:16.47 | Bagginsww | well technically we could just all it "Stormwind" |
06:16.55 | Bagginsww | and get rid of the pesky disambig altogether |
06:17.00 | Sky2042 | one sec |
06:17.04 | Sky2042 | checking wowhead |
06:17.28 | Sky2042 | nah, I'd go with Stormwind City, with rds from all it's other numerous names |
06:18.01 | Bagginsww | oddly rpg lists it under Stormwind, with the city inside of it LOL |
06:18.10 | Bagginsww | but sharing the same population and same region :p |
06:18.13 | Sky2042 | and, actually, while not any of it's cited...:http://www.wowwiki.com/Guide_To_Stormwind_City |
06:18.29 | Bagginsww | I'm working within kingdom of Stormwind right now LOL |
06:18.32 | Sky2042 | would be safe to get rid of the pixure |
06:20.34 | Bagginsww | hmm harpies live in the zone |
06:20.45 | Bagginsww | apparently most people in stormwind zone are huddled in the city |
06:21.01 | Bagginsww | and less civilized stuff lives out in the wilderness |
06:21.04 | Bagginsww | of the nation |
06:21.22 | Sky2042 | harpies? |
06:21.24 | Sky2042 | wtf? |
06:21.37 | Bagginsww | yep |
06:22.44 | Bagginsww | so ya we can keep the city seperated from the region article |
06:22.55 | Bagginsww | but it needs a bit more clarificaiton |
06:23.22 | Sky2042 | hmmm |
06:23.57 | Sky2042 | still think it could be merged |
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06:25.47 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
06:25.47 | Bagginsww | rts of beasts that will sometimes venture south to see what they can pick from the road. The passage is no stranger to harpy attacks, and even dire wolves are spotted north of the city. The locals assume the creatures have escaped from the Blackrock orcs in the Burning Steppes. The lush valley of heros lies south of the city, and all visitors must pass through it, as it is the only entrance to Stormwind. With all the rebuilding ef |
06:25.48 | Bagginsww | forts in the past thirty years, the city has several notable structures. These include; the Academy of Arcane Sciences, Cathedral of Light, The Pig and Whistle, the Stockade and Vault, and Stormwind Keep.LoC 53 |
06:26.16 | Bagginsww | that's a bit on the geography of the Stormwind region |
06:26.35 | Sky2042 | so make a section called "Surrounding geography" in SW City? :P |
06:26.52 | Bagginsww | WE just need to name the article "Stormwind" |
06:26.58 | Bagginsww | and we can have a section on STormwind city |
06:27.08 | Sky2042 | :/ |
06:27.34 | Bagginsww | that's actually how it was originally, before I started incorporating this lore :p |
06:27.37 | Sky2042 | I'm holding to SW City for the reason that it's the name of the zone ingame |
06:27.42 | Sky2042 | yeah, i know xd |
06:27.58 | Bagginsww | I just needed to break it up while I figured out all the source material |
06:28.01 | Sky2042 | as the sw city page actually says, it's the city state |
06:28.20 | Sky2042 | wait, baggins |
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06:28.31 | Sky2042 | the city and the kingdom exist more or less in the exact same location, with the edges of the nation lying within the edges of the cityLoC 52 your own quote no doubt |
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06:29.12 | Bagginsww | its based on bit in WoWRPG that also states that the city stretches to the northwest coast |
06:29.19 | Bagginsww | so the city is very huge |
06:29.38 | Bagginsww | all the citizenry of the region live in the city |
06:29.53 | Bagginsww | anythign outside of it is those harpies and what not LOL |
06:30.01 | Bagginsww | and mountains of stormwind |
06:30.07 | Bagginsww | or whatever its called |
06:36.48 | Sky2042 | anduin wrynn the fourth? |
06:36.57 | Bagginsww | needs a bit of work with westfall |
06:37.02 | Bagginsww | westfall is outside of its control |
06:37.06 | Bagginsww | almost entirely |
06:37.23 | Bagginsww | I added that bit on other pages, but missed it there Ig uess |
06:37.25 | Sky2042 | well, ok, it's supposed to influence westfall :P |
06:37.38 | Bagginsww | westfall is independent right now heh heh |
06:37.45 | Bagginsww | not even Alliance |
06:37.55 | Sky2042 | yeah, blame the defias for that |
06:37.59 | Bagginsww | ya |
06:38.08 | Bagginsww | ya they are the government |
06:38.20 | Sky2042 | one sec |
06:38.24 | Bagginsww | although they seem more like anarchy than true government heh |
06:38.40 | Sky2042 | what's the page number for that? |
06:38.58 | Sky2042 | and book |
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06:40.05 | Bagginsww | for anarchy bit? |
06:40.10 | Bagginsww | or independence I mean |
06:40.14 | Sky2042 | either |
06:40.20 | Bagginsww | WoWRPG, and LoC |
06:40.33 | Bagginsww | I think the page numbers might be in the Kingdom of Stormwind article |
06:40.51 | Bagginsww | hmm I missed it |
06:40.58 | Bagginsww | just a moment |
06:41.28 | Bagginsww | pg 60 for loc |
06:41.39 | Sky2042 | which is for anarchy? |
06:41.47 | Sky2042 | or for inde? |
06:42.11 | Bagginsww | 16 for WoWRPG |
06:42.27 | Bagginsww | specifically independence in loc |
06:43.29 | Bagginsww | and "controls" for wowrpg |
06:43.36 | Bagginsww | defias brotherhood controls the region |
06:44.01 | Bagginsww | concept of anarchy comes form the descriptionf ot he defias brotherhood |
06:44.13 | Bagginsww | in that they are made up of a bunch of smaller groups |
06:44.18 | Bagginsww | anyone can call themselves defias |
06:44.27 | Bagginsww | and each one may be working for their own good |
06:44.32 | Bagginsww | personal gain |
06:44.53 | Sky2042 | it's controls in loc also |
06:44.55 | Bagginsww | while Edwin is technocally in charge, he doesn't seem to have full control |
06:45.02 | Bagginsww | ya |
06:45.12 | Bagginsww | I just meant specific refrence for Independence |
06:45.24 | Bagginsww | under "affiliation" |
06:46.31 | Sky2042 | how's http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Stormwind_City&diff=935449&oldid=935439 for phrasing? |
06:47.20 | Bagginsww | hmm might need a bit more clean up but its getting there. "much more independent" can just be "independent" |
06:48.15 | Sky2042 | eh, have at it. i was attempting to have good grammar... :| |
06:51.12 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wyrmcult huh? |
06:51.29 | Bagginsww | ok once you merge new stormwind bit into stormwind city article |
06:51.34 | Bagginsww | we'll be down to two articles |
06:54.16 | Sky2042 | hmmm |
06:54.54 | Sky2042 | actually, how about making that guide the main SW City article (with adjustments, naturally), and then move everything else over to SW? |
06:54.57 | Sky2042 | hmm |
06:56.09 | Sky2042 | yeah, move the history to SW, at least |
06:56.12 | Sky2042 | less duplication |
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06:59.02 | Bagginsww | big problem is article I converted from brann, is his description oft her egion and the city mixed togetehr :p |
06:59.14 | Bagginsww | it might be easier to just merge city article into that one |
06:59.21 | Bagginsww | then we only need one article |
06:59.29 | Sky2042 | "eh" |
06:59.38 | Sky2042 | at least fix the history part for me |
07:00.48 | Sky2042 | yeah, ok. humm |
07:00.54 | Bagginsww | which one? |
07:01.50 | Bagginsww | hmm btw good work on making the city article more of a gameplay guide |
07:01.54 | Sky2042 | SW |
07:02.07 | Sky2042 | i'm gonna' chop them up, see what i can squeeze out of both of them |
07:02.15 | Bagginsww | oh you need me to chop and merge |
07:02.21 | Sky2042 | fix the double history section. incorporate, w/e |
07:02.24 | Sky2042 | on SW |
07:02.38 | Bagginsww | wel the main thing is keep the one tiny cited paragraph |
07:02.47 | Bagginsww | Stormwind was the first kingdom invaded by the Horde during the First War. Beloved King Llane was killed in the attacks, and it was in his name that Sir Lothar led Alliance forces to take the city back. With Stormwind under its control again and serving as a strong base of operations, the Alliance eventually wrested most of Azeroth from the Horde’s grip. The Alliance set to rebuilding then, calling on whoever could spare artisan |
07:02.47 | Bagginsww | s. Now it is the last of the great human cities. It boasts a powerful City Guard and a strong army, and it is a base of magical or divine study, and contemplation, in Azeroth.LoC 54 |
07:03.01 | Bagginsww | that's from LoC article |
07:03.16 | Bagginsww | everything else is previous material from the old article |
07:04.04 | Sky2042 | gah hum |
07:07.21 | Bagginsww | don't worry sky I'll probably clean it up |
07:07.28 | Sky2042 | btw, I don't know how much of http://www.wowwiki.com/Guide_To_Stormwind_City#History is repeated, but possibly incorporate some of that into SW? |
07:07.59 | Bagginsww | is that one of those guides by what's her name? |
07:08.05 | Bagginsww | its not let me click on it |
07:08.14 | Sky2042 | then probably yes |
07:08.19 | Sky2042 | aletto |
07:09.01 | Bagginsww | ya |
07:10.26 | Sky2042 | <3 the prose |
07:11.00 | Sky2042 | will have to kill some of it, but that's alright |
07:11.02 | Bagginsww | on alletto's guide? |
07:11.48 | Bagginsww | btw I have more to imcorporate from the RPG, so that might influence future edits tot he main stormwind article |
07:12.06 | Sky2042 | no, merging the guide into the main gameplay article |
07:12.12 | Bagginsww | ya |
07:12.15 | Bagginsww | I understand |
07:12.35 | Sky2042 | better than the list, imo |
07:12.37 | Sky2042 | lol |
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07:13.41 | Bagginsww | only issue I have with alletto guides is some of it is pure invention |
07:13.42 | Sky2042 | dotted, you suck |
07:13.46 | Sky2042 | some |
07:13.49 | Dotted | k |
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07:19.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Valleyofheroes.JPG |
07:20.03 | Bagginsww | thougth you might be interested in an alternate rendition of the valley of heroes :) |
07:21.19 | Sky2042 | ew xD |
07:21.39 | Bagginsww | lol |
07:22.09 | Bagginsww | just another issue where ingame scale and rpg scale differs |
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07:26.10 | Sky2042 | lol, wtf |
07:26.17 | Sky2042 | A similar prison, [[The Vault]], is surrounded by water on all sides and seems to be holding out fine - for now. It is unknown if the [[demons]], [[mages]], and [[undead]] within will one day rise up as well. |
07:26.25 | Sky2042 | where did this person get that? |
07:26.31 | Bagginsww | lands of conflict |
07:26.53 | Bagginsww | don't worry I'll get to incorporating locatin finromation into individual articles |
07:26.57 | Bagginsww | rather than main stormwind article |
07:27.09 | Bagginsww | but ya you should find the info in [[Vault]] already |
07:27.14 | Bagginsww | [[Vault]] |
07:27.16 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Vault |
07:27.39 | Sky2042 | oh goddamnit |
07:28.07 | Sky2042 | ORLY?! |
07:28.07 | Bagginsww | huh? |
07:28.09 | Sky2042 | :P |
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07:48.18 | hurricane567 | hi i have a question re:pvp...why is the horde willing to fight for halaa but the alliance is not? |
07:48.27 | hurricane567 | or is it just my server? |
07:48.51 | hurricane567 | or is it me? lol |
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11:21.32 | Volus | Ah |
11:22.18 | Volus | How are you all feeling today? :) |
11:28.41 | Volus | A bit tired perhaps :P ? |
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12:07.12 | Volus | Good Afternoon, Adys |
12:08.49 | Volus | ~infiniteloop |
12:08.49 | infobot | [[A]] |
12:08.50 | [NewsBot] | infobot meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/A |
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12:09.18 | CoMa | ... |
12:09.19 | Kaso | call that infinite! |
12:09.43 | Volus | [[test]] |
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13:32.25 | TOR_CNR | guys? |
13:32.41 | TOR_CNR | anybody familiar with: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WoWItem |
13:32.42 | TOR_CNR | ? |
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13:39.44 | pcj | No, but why would we need it |
13:40.51 | TOR_CNR | dunno, just checking, since a user from no.wow requested this to be installed |
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13:43.45 | Kaso | Allakazam data :( nowadays i think there are more relyable sources |
13:45.01 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: Morning sunshine! |
13:45.31 | Kirkburn | Morning :) |
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13:45.56 | Kaso | You are my sun-shine, my only sun-shine. You make me ha-ppy, when times are grey. You'll never know dear! How much i love you, please don't take my sun-shine away. |
13:46.11 | slashimport | hi kickburn do you have time for a short talk? ^^ |
13:47.05 | Kirkburn | What's up? |
13:47.38 | pcj | well at least you didn't call yourself dirkburn |
13:47.51 | slashimport | i would like to adopt the german wow wiki. |
13:48.15 | slashimport | can i use the same design? |
13:48.20 | Kirkburn | Of course :) |
13:48.33 | slashimport | cool :) |
13:49.16 | pcj | why weren't enchants made to use the regular tooltip |
13:49.27 | slashimport | do you know how can i change the license? # |
13:49.53 | foxlit | pcj: who knows? |
13:50.02 | pcj | i don't, that's why i'm asking :P |
13:50.36 | slashimport | and can i use the same logo? |
13:50.47 | slashimport | because i dont find the wc font :( |
13:51.03 | Kirkburn | slashimport, the German wikia wow wiki? |
13:51.07 | slashimport | yes |
13:51.25 | Kirkburn | Then changing the license is pretty unlikely |
13:51.42 | Kaso | why would you want to chance the licence? out of interest |
13:52.11 | slashimport | gnu is not very good |
13:52.20 | slashimport | cc-by would be better i think |
13:52.27 | slashimport | or cc-by-nc |
13:53.14 | Kirkburn | Really won't happen |
13:53.51 | Kirkburn | Anyway, yeah you can use the logo |
13:54.10 | slashimport | you are a very nice guy :) |
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14:10.25 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Don't go into the light... - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/23/around-azeroth-dont-go-into-the-light/ |
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14:16.50 | pcj | he don't know you very well do he |
14:18.15 | Kirkburn | pcj, :O |
14:20.26 | Kirkburn | ~seen Teomyr |
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14:21.13 | pcj | ~seen laurly |
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14:21.21 | pcj | ~seen foxbot |
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14:21.29 | pcj | !wwstats |
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14:21.38 | Kirkburn | Whenever teomyr is around again, need to enquire about his wowhead tooltip extension |
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14:22.00 | pcj | oh...ok |
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14:23.30 | pcj | Is there a {{Stub/Wtf}}? |
14:23.31 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Rock_Spire |
14:24.59 | Kirkburn | It's a mission name |
14:25.30 | Kirkburn | Not sure which though, probably WC2 |
14:25.40 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, ping |
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14:39.02 | t-motion | hy all! |
14:39.16 | pcj | hi |
14:40.35 | pcj | looks like Orcs & Humans kirkburn |
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15:04.43 | t-motion | lol |
15:04.56 | t-motion | one is not ebough |
15:06.46 | pcj | two computers allows me to edit wowwiki pages faster |
15:10.24 | t-motion | hihihi |
15:11.00 | t-motion | well there are few qestion |
15:11.40 | pcj | hmm? |
15:11.49 | t-motion | how can i change in the startpage logo and the favicon?, in the CSS? or in main page? |
15:11.59 | pcj | on wowwiki? |
15:12.04 | t-motion | no |
15:12.12 | t-motion | wowwiki hun |
15:13.14 | pcj | well if you have access to localsettings.php you can change the logo here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo |
15:13.26 | pcj | and favicon here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFavicon |
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15:36.15 | pcj | so i found out that patch 1.6 probably just made the censor catch it kirkburn |
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15:37.20 | Kirkburn | I saw :P |
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15:41.02 | pcj | Tooltip on http://www.wowwiki.com/Stone_War_Axe seems off somehow |
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15:48.04 | Kaso | The dps isnt rounded properly |
15:48.25 | Kaso | its shown to 2 decmal places when it should be rounded too 1 |
15:48.53 | Kaso | which is odd, cos im sure Foxbot should do rounding. |
15:48.55 | Kaso | foxlit! |
15:53.01 | pcj | Well I meant how the speed is conflicting with the "Axe" type |
15:53.03 | pcj | but yeah |
15:53.45 | Kaso | because the damage is too many digits it's too long thus causing speed to be displaced |
15:54.00 | Kaso | Oh perhaps not |
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15:55.09 | Kaso | I think its a combination of it having too many digits on the dps line, plus the icon is pretty low as the tooltip doesnt have a BOE/BOP line |
15:56.01 | Kaso | seems that the tooltip size was worked out around them all having the extra hight from having a BOP/E line |
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16:01.27 | foxlit | dps? |
16:01.33 | foxlit | Surely you mean speed :) |
16:02.24 | Kaso | Hmm actually i meant dps, but its not connected |
16:02.38 | Kaso | but foxlit why isnt the dps properly rounded to 1 decimal place, im sure my code did that |
16:02.56 | foxlit | I think I explicitly round to 2 :) |
16:03.02 | foxlit | Not sure :) |
16:03.17 | Kaso | well 2 decimal places is wrong, wow uses 1 |
16:03.36 | foxlit | ["dps"]="|dps=%.2f", |
16:04.17 | foxlit | changed that now |
16:04.34 | foxlit | 2 should've been the speed |
16:04.50 | Kaso | yup |
16:05.15 | Kaso | d = math.floor(d * 10 + 0.5) / 10 |
16:05.21 | Kaso | my yucky way of doing it ^ |
16:05.53 | foxlit | I just use string.format :) |
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16:06.47 | Kaso | yah its a much better solution, i must admit, since starting to learn C coding, i've been using string.format in lua and java more often in my code now |
16:06.53 | Kaso | i never used to use it much at all |
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16:07.41 | foxlit | Looking back, this xml -> tooltip transformer is insane |
16:07.57 | Kaso | yes its terrible |
16:08.18 | Kaso | i knew it was terrible when i got about half way through. |
16:08.32 | foxlit | I more or less rewrote that part form scratch. |
16:08.34 | foxlit | It's still insane. |
16:08.34 | Kaso | i remeber thinking, god, this is terrible, i should have written a proper tokenizer etc etc. |
16:09.05 | foxlit | Though it does at least parse XML |
16:09.09 | Kaso | I was very embarrased about that bit (more than the other bits!) |
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16:10.06 | Kaso | I'm quite interested how blizzard have a seperate Slot ID for Robe and Chest, but just display robe as "Chest" anyway |
16:10.22 | foxlit | Crazy, I say: http://foxlit.pastey.net/75714 :) |
16:10.36 | foxlit | Yeah, seems odd |
16:11.09 | Kaso | ooh i like how you have the ones with a dictionary attached |
16:11.15 | Kaso | thats nice |
16:13.42 | foxlit | Until you get to line 42 |
16:13.43 | foxlit | ["*"] ={{"|mats=%s","%s (%s)",", ","reagent/name","reagent/count"}}, |
16:14.06 | foxlit | sudden onset of lunacy |
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16:16.20 | foxlit | Apparenly, that's syntax for format "%s (%s)" pieces of reagent/name, reagent/count arrays delimied by ", " into "|mats=%s" |
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16:18.14 | Kirochi | Auuuughiburghiburgburgle |
16:18.18 | foxlit | More insanity: foxbot core http://foxlit.pastey.net/75717-3ya7 |
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16:19.45 | Kaso | Bot.Bot = Bot; -- There's a point, I promise. |
16:19.47 | Kaso | ha |
16:20.43 | Kirochi | ehem |
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16:22.50 | pcj | Kirkburn, if you would add a line to the CSS, I could get enchants working with {{loot}} |
16:23.20 | Kirkburn | oh? |
16:23.28 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Pcj/Sandbox |
16:23.41 | pcj | Just needs .qc-enchant |
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16:27.32 | pcj | why are they moving {{gems}} to the top http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Skyfire_Diamond&diff=prev&oldid=915363 |
16:29.11 | Kirkburn | pcj, dunno, shouldn't be |
16:29.49 | Fisker- | there is hope for society yet |
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16:31.06 | Fisker- | some kid in school had used a fire exstinguisher on the floor in the school |
16:31.12 | Kirkburn | >_< |
16:31.15 | Fisker- | i claimed anthrax for a cheap day off |
16:31.27 | Fisker- | but it didn't turn into a terror panic fest |
16:31.29 | Fisker- | unfortunately |
16:31.33 | Kirkburn | >_> |
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16:34.41 | Codexius | is it possible to connect to 2 irc servers at once |
16:34.54 | Kirkburn | Yes, assuming you have a good client :P |
16:35.14 | Codexius | mirc any good? |
16:35.45 | pcj | yes |
16:35.52 | pcj | type /server -m irc.otherserver.com |
16:35.56 | Kirochi | just type /server -m otherserve |
16:36.00 | Kirochi | damn |
16:36.02 | pcj | pwned |
16:36.10 | Kirochi | I hate you pcj |
16:36.14 | Kirochi | hope you hate me too |
16:36.28 | pcj | idc |
16:38.03 | Codexius | anyone know the drop of the sinister squashling? |
16:38.25 | Kirochi | thottbot does |
16:38.28 | Kirochi | wowhead too |
16:38.55 | Codexius | i dont htink it is, the hallows end stuff wasnt up last week |
16:38.59 | Codexius | maybe this week :/ |
16:39.01 | Kirochi | 2.1% |
16:39.01 | Codexius | brb haha |
16:39.05 | Codexius | jeeez |
16:40.18 | pcj | are class names capitalized or not |
16:42.42 | foxlit | Bot.Bot = Bot; -- There_is_ a point :) |
16:42.49 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Captain_O%27Neal.jpg |
16:47.08 | Kirkburn | pcj, tell me somewhere what line needs adding, I'll try to get to it later |
16:50.23 | pcj | [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] |
16:50.24 | pcj | .qc-enchant, .qc-enchant a { color:#ffd100; } |
16:50.25 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.css |
16:51.12 | pcj | {{Loot}} |
16:51.13 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Loot |
16:51.16 | pcj | <PROTECTED> |
16:51.17 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:2 |
16:51.25 | Anitora | ? |
16:51.31 | pcj | That should do it |
16:51.43 | Anitora | Howdy |
16:51.49 | pcj | Hi |
16:51.59 | Anitora | How are you this fine afternoon? |
16:52.05 | pcj | Good, but it's still morning |
16:52.11 | Anitora | Where you at? |
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16:52.17 | pcj | Oklahoma |
16:52.20 | Anitora | Me2 |
16:52.29 | Anitora | its 12am well 10 till |
16:52.39 | Anitora | What part? |
16:52.49 | Anitora | Im down in lawton |
16:52.51 | pcj | Tulsa |
16:53.00 | pcj | Fort Sill? |
16:53.07 | Anitora | Ahhh i hate you =) you get all the good concerts up there |
16:53.11 | Anitora | Aye |
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16:53.54 | Anitora | I'm origonally from Colorado, just stationed here atm |
16:54.03 | pcj | Cool |
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16:54.55 | Anitora | I hate maintenace day, I end up on wikipedia learning physics somehow... |
16:55.05 | pcj | Heh |
16:55.24 | Anitora | I did discover a nifty trick to subracting numbers fast in my head |
16:55.40 | pcj | Kirkburn, don't forget to add to {{Loot}}: |enchant=enchant" title="{{{3|{{{2|Unknown}}}}}} is an enchant. |
16:56.09 | Anitora | So I guess it hasn't been a total waste of time |
16:58.09 | Kirkburn | pcj, are those quote marks in the right places? |
17:00.10 | pcj | Just like the other ones |
17:00.31 | pcj | (Hint: they are) |
17:00.54 | pcj | Make sure you add it to the top of the {{#switch}} tho |
17:01.00 | pcj | above artifact |
17:01.18 | Kirkburn | Ugh, can I just unlock it for you |
17:01.25 | pcj | OK |
17:01.36 | Kirkburn | Unlocked |
17:02.05 | pcj | Yay |
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17:02.38 | Kirkburn | :D |
17:04.12 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
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17:05.20 | Anitora | !job make me coffee |
17:05.28 | Anitora | didn't work =( |
17:05.34 | hurax | Kirkburn? |
17:05.53 | Kirkburn | ~make coffee |
17:05.54 | infobot | make: *** No rule to make target `coffee'. Stop. |
17:06.22 | hurax | why was stormwind moved to stormwind city? first as disambiguation now that new page |
17:07.16 | Kirochi | ~coffee |
17:07.24 | Kirochi | ~beer |
17:07.25 | infobot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
17:07.29 | Kirochi | hahahahaha |
17:07.34 | Kirochi | love it |
17:07.41 | Kirochi | =D |
17:08.09 | hurax | *g* |
17:08.19 | Kirochi | !wwstats |
17:08.20 | Bagginsww | so does anyone have time to waste and go over all the azeroth zones that now have population numbers, and add up the totals for alliance cities and horde cities for comparision purposes? |
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17:08.40 | Kirochi | Bagginsww if you come with me then yes |
17:08.48 | Kirochi | on which servers do you play ? |
17:08.54 | Bagginsww | gorganash |
17:09.02 | Kirochi | nay, I'm asking for the zone |
17:09.05 | Kirochi | eu? us? |
17:09.08 | Bagginsww | us |
17:09.26 | Kirochi | aw dang |
17:09.32 | Kirochi | I'm not in |
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17:11.41 | Bagginsww | at first i wasn't sure whta you meant by "come with me". Considering I'm in Hawaii and can't really go anywhere, LOL. |
17:12.36 | Kirochi | ... |
17:12.47 | Kirochi | aren't we talking about a game? |
17:12.48 | hurax | lol |
17:12.50 | Kirochi | on a game chan? |
17:13.03 | Kirochi | and you DARE tell me about your geographical location? |
17:14.24 | Kirochi | :p |
17:18.42 | Bagginsww | well actually I was talking about lore, not the mmo kirochi. |
17:19.13 | Bagginsww | if you went by populaiton numbers in WoW you'd have less than a small town probably LOL |
17:19.35 | Bagginsww | just going by npcs that is I mean, and not player characters |
17:19.36 | Kirochi | so you meant browsing all the WoWRPG manuals to sum up everything? |
17:19.53 | Bagginsww | well I've put up the population numbers on all zone articles btw |
17:20.12 | Bagginsww | [[elwynn forest]] for example |
17:20.14 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/elwynn_forest |
17:20.19 | hurax | so in lore you swim from hawaii to azeroth ;) well NPCs in a game of course can never form a viable population |
17:20.21 | Bagginsww | Elwynn Forest |
17:20.32 | hurax | i always imagined them just a sample |
17:20.49 | Bagginsww | hurax only if I some how fall through a dark portal or perhaps a maelstrom :p |
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17:21.32 | Bagginsww | ya we are only seeing a sample of the population |
17:21.38 | Bagginsww | as well as only a section of the towns ;) |
17:21.40 | Kirkburn | Obviously if you tried swimming you'd just fatigue |
17:21.45 | Bagginsww | yep |
17:21.48 | hurax | but did not imagine the large number of stormwind citizens compared to the rural population |
17:22.11 | Bagginsww | ya its because its considered its own region and nation |
17:22.41 | Bagginsww | whereas surrounding areas are territories |
17:23.20 | Bagginsww | did you notice the size of the [[Church of the Holy Llight]] |
17:23.27 | Bagginsww | [[Church of the Holy Light]] |
17:23.28 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Church_of_the_Holy_Light |
17:23.44 | Bagginsww | considering that they are mostly Alliance members... |
17:24.05 | hurax | i imagined it to be a medieval city, lured by the medieval german architecture... but 200.000 inhabitants and much less in its rural territories |
17:25.19 | hurax | ancient rome had a similar situation perhaps |
17:25.21 | Bagginsww | it seems there are very few living in Stormwind regiion outside the city. Outside is described as being a passage attacked by harpies and dire wolves, and being large mountains. |
17:25.37 | Bagginsww | that being the area north of the city |
17:25.39 | hurax | with the city numbering 1M |
17:26.16 | hurax | was thinking of elwynn, westfall, lakeshire |
17:26.21 | Kirochi | Harpies ? |
17:26.22 | Kirochi | oO |
17:26.24 | Bagginsww | yep |
17:26.29 | Kirochi | harpies in Azeroth?? |
17:26.33 | Bagginsww | apparently |
17:26.43 | hurax | perhaps stormwind citizens are fed by mages conjuring food and not farmers :) |
17:26.45 | Bagginsww | just as centaurs exist apparently |
17:26.50 | Kirochi | as dumb as eastern kingdoms centaurs |
17:26.52 | Kirochi | heh |
17:26.55 | Kirochi | pwnt |
17:26.56 | Bagginsww | ya hurax most likely |
17:26.58 | Bagginsww | they lost westfall |
17:27.02 | Bagginsww | westfall isn't even th eir territory now |
17:27.04 | Bagginsww | its Defias |
17:27.23 | Kirochi | nay, it's only because we want to see hostile mobs in game |
17:27.27 | Kirochi | friendly people suck |
17:27.44 | Kirochi | Westfall isn't at all overwhelmed by the Defias |
17:27.58 | Bagginsww | I'm oging by lore not in-game |
17:28.09 | Bagginsww | its specifically said to be independent in the lore |
17:28.21 | Bagginsww | and defias make up most of the population |
17:28.24 | Kirochi | which manual ? |
17:28.36 | Bagginsww | Lands of Conflict and World fo Warcraft the RPG |
17:28.45 | Bagginsww | [[Westfall]] |
17:28.46 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Westfall |
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17:29.05 | Bagginsww | also mentione din Alliance Player's Guide and Horde Player's Guide |
17:29.46 | Bagginsww | note those half-elves are probably defias renegades as hinted at in the book. |
17:29.50 | Bagginsww | as are the goblins |
17:29.58 | Bagginsww | the goblins were captured and enslaved by the defias |
17:30.17 | Bagginsww | and most of those humans are defias too |
17:30.28 | Bagginsww | compare moonbrook to sentinel hill |
17:30.57 | Kirochi | yeah |
17:31.02 | Kirochi | 300 and 4000 |
17:31.10 | Kirochi | (i just opened LoC) |
17:31.14 | Bagginsww | heh |
17:32.30 | Bagginsww | and duskwood and redridge mountains are all but removed from Stormwind's control, but they still consider themselves Alliance members |
17:32.34 | Kirochi | The bare farmlands add little to break |
17:32.34 | Kirochi | the wind, which can cut through clothing on a |
17:32.34 | Kirochi | blustery day. |
17:32.36 | Kirochi | omg |
17:32.52 | Kirochi | Westfall should have such debuffs |
17:32.56 | Bagginsww | heh |
17:33.04 | Bagginsww | ya kirochi real world debuffs would be awesome |
17:33.09 | Kirochi | "cloth wearers lose 10% of their durability" |
17:33.13 | Bagginsww | like go to tanaris and have to find oasis or die |
17:33.27 | Bagginsww | of dehydration |
17:33.34 | Bagginsww | be forced to drink water every now and then |
17:33.35 | Kirochi | yeah, and plaguelands plague, northrend cold |
17:33.49 | Bagginsww | plaguelands have the pollution fog issues ya |
17:33.56 | hurax | or wearing plate armor in the blasted lands :) |
17:34.01 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
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17:34.15 | Kirochi | sisn't get the plate armor joke |
17:34.19 | Kirochi | didn't* |
17:34.23 | Bagginsww | molten core owuld be insane since tehre is rules for fiery areas too |
17:34.35 | hurax | metal attracts lightnings |
17:34.36 | Bagginsww | metal and lightning |
17:34.41 | Bagginsww | I got it |
17:34.45 | Kirochi | oh yeah, debuffs like "You're on fire! RUN!" |
17:34.50 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
17:34.51 | Kirochi | awww I got it |
17:35.14 | Kirochi | Noblegarden spells |
17:35.30 | Kirochi | "You're made of chocolate! Anyone around you gains Cannibalism!" |
17:36.05 | Bagginsww | lol |
17:36.23 | Bagginsww | If you die by a fire elemental you should be turned to ash |
17:36.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fiery_destroyer |
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17:37.05 | Kirochi | yeah, whole corpses suck |
17:37.28 | Kirochi | Bill #12515 |
17:37.29 | Kirochi | From: Erefor Pelija |
17:37.29 | Kirochi | To: King Anduin Wrynn |
17:37.29 | Kirochi | Design of eastern merchants |
17:37.29 | Kirochi | block over 1 year: 500,000 gp |
17:37.29 | Kirochi | Building supplies, including |
17:37.31 | Kirochi | but not limited to lumber, stone, |
17:37.33 | Kirochi | spikes, nails and tools: 300,000 gp |
17:37.35 | Kirochi | Labor over 6 months: 100,000 gp |
17:37.37 | Kirochi | Late fee: 100,000 gp |
17:37.39 | Kirochi | Total: 1,000,000 gp |
17:37.42 | Bagginsww | ya, sucks LOL |
17:37.51 | Kirochi | Brann says "If |
17:37.51 | Kirochi | anyone has sympathies with the Brotherhood, |
17:37.51 | Kirochi | its likely they wont after reading it." |
17:38.00 | Bagginsww | Hmm eastern merchan'ts block, is that a section of the city we can't get to? |
17:38.13 | Kirochi | mebbe |
17:38.17 | Kirochi | I'll check |
17:38.33 | Bagginsww | cause that doesn't fit old town or dwarven district |
17:38.39 | Kirochi | nuffin on wowwiki |
17:38.40 | Bagginsww | or the keep |
17:38.48 | Bagginsww | I see a new article :) |
17:38.57 | Kirochi | hehe, let's do that |
17:39.11 | Bagginsww | ok I'll add a link in Stormwind City |
17:40.38 | Kirochi | oh |
17:40.38 | Bagginsww | lol ya "extortion" ;) |
17:40.38 | Kirochi | wait |
17:40.41 | Kirochi | maybe |
17:40.58 | hurax | defias/mafia, is that an intended reference in the name or rather coincidence? |
17:41.01 | Kirochi | why doesn't "Trade District" fit in? |
17:41.30 | Bagginsww | trade district is the areas aroudn the canals right? |
17:41.45 | Kirochi | uh, it's the first one you see when you enter |
17:41.47 | Bagginsww | or rather the osuth |
17:41.49 | Bagginsww | south |
17:41.53 | Kirochi | the only one that's not in a corner |
17:42.00 | Bagginsww | it doesn't really fit "eastern" |
17:42.03 | Kirochi | and it's exactly east of the city |
17:42.17 | Bagginsww | its southern edge of the city LOL |
17:42.24 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Stormwindmap2.jpg |
17:42.29 | Kirochi | get a f'n map |
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17:42.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/0/01/StormwindmapLoC.JPG |
17:42.45 | Bagginsww | I was |
17:43.01 | Kirochi | well, LoC maps are unoriented |
17:43.11 | Bagginsww | LoC book is oriented to that map |
17:43.16 | Bagginsww | not the one ingame LOL |
17:43.21 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, the intro para of [[Farstriders]] is awful |
17:43.29 | Kirochi | WoW maps have north |
17:43.29 | Kirkburn | It says about 5 different things :P |
17:44.06 | Bagginsww | I didn't write that, :p |
17:44.29 | Bagginsww | but ya it needs to be modified |
17:45.01 | Kirochi | baggins, the LoC map is wrong |
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17:45.13 | Kirochi | it just puts up north and down south |
17:45.27 | Kirochi | the Trade District is east, it really is |
17:46.07 | Kirochi | would you think that eastern merchants' block is behind old town? |
17:46.29 | Kirochi | Moonbrook (ghost town, 4,000) |
17:46.47 | Kirochi | (Ok, a ghost town with 4,000 people, wtf) |
17:46.58 | hurax | the two maps are practically the same... if rotated 30 degrees |
17:47.11 | hurax | 4000 ghosts ;) |
17:47.25 | Bagginsww | kirochi and if you walk into stormwind |
17:47.31 | Bagginsww | trade district is in the south in game too |
17:47.39 | Bagginsww | I don't know why they reoriented the map LOL |
17:47.44 | Kirochi | there's only one ghost in moonbrook =) |
17:48.03 | hurax | two, if my twink dies in the deadmines |
17:48.06 | Kirochi | aw, you sure baggins? |
17:48.21 | Bagginsww | I'm pretty sure the gate is oriented southwards |
17:48.25 | Kirochi | hurax, betcha don't know who's this one ghost |
17:48.29 | Kirochi | go check Bagginsww |
17:48.30 | Bagginsww | been a while since I"ve been to stormwind |
17:48.34 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:48.37 | Bagginsww | I'm in outland most of the time |
17:48.40 | Bagginsww | but sure I can check :p |
17:48.46 | Kirochi | I don't care, get a portal |
17:49.12 | Bagginsww | I'm a mage its easy |
17:49.16 | Kirochi | hurax must be searching on WoWwiki by now |
17:49.23 | Kirochi | no, I meant a free Shattrath portal |
17:50.33 | hurax | hehe, no i was on the toilet |
17:50.50 | Kirochi | damn |
17:50.51 | hurax | i guess in that chapel |
17:51.00 | hurax | but don't remember |
17:51.29 | hurax | ok, i'll search now :) |
17:51.55 | Bagginsww | southeastish |
17:52.10 | Kirochi | haha |
17:52.34 | Bagginsww | and as I recall lands of conflict discusses the trade district too doesn't it? |
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17:53.34 | hurax | didn't find it on the wiki but now i remember... the lighthouse guy right? |
17:54.12 | Kirochi | don't think so, though I might be wrong |
17:54.20 | Bagginsww | trade district is also kinda centered if you take into account Valley of Heroes |
17:54.28 | Kirochi | I was talking about the banshee that appears in the Stalvan questline |
17:54.35 | Bagginsww | which is southeastere most edge of the city |
17:55.02 | hurax | but that banshee was in duskwood? |
17:55.12 | Kirochi | nay there are a lot of em |
17:55.32 | Bagginsww | ya kirochi most of the people live underground |
17:55.33 | Kirochi | one in elwynn, one in duskwood, one in moonbrook, one in stormwind... |
17:55.39 | Bagginsww | in moonbrook |
17:55.50 | Kirochi | only defias live undeground |
17:55.56 | Kirochi | that means farmer are not counted |
17:55.58 | Bagginsww | most people in mooonbrook are defias |
17:56.22 | Bagginsww | actually famers are coutned |
17:56.25 | Kirochi | 4,000 defias? whew, I kne it took many people to rebuild Stormwind, but FOR GOD'S SAKE |
17:56.44 | Kirochi | farmers aren't living in Moonbrook nor Defias |
17:56.55 | Bagginsww | I'd think that farmers are probably alligned with sentinel hill |
17:57.12 | Kirochi | so, most of them are Alliance |
17:57.30 | Bagginsww | and 4000 of moonbrook probably counts the goblins |
17:57.39 | Kirochi | that leads to the point: most of Westfall's population is still Alliance |
17:57.43 | Bagginsww | nope |
17:57.47 | Bagginsww | most are defias |
17:57.47 | hurax | or they just try to live their lives and not get in way of either politics or organized crime |
17:57.47 | Bagginsww | moonbrook is defias |
17:58.01 | Bagginsww | moonbrook has most of the population |
17:58.17 | Kirochi | Westfall was deserted, then |
17:58.35 | Bagginsww | ya I think it says that alot of people were forced to elwynn or duskwood |
17:58.45 | Kirochi | forced to duskwood, poor people |
17:58.53 | Bagginsww | ya :( |
17:58.58 | Bagginsww | probably af ew made it to redridge or stormwind too |
17:59.09 | Kirochi | although being sent to Hogger's Kingdom is quite awful |
17:59.14 | hurax | stalvan was a nice questline |
17:59.58 | Kirochi | Kirkburn |
18:00.18 | Kirochi | could we add a "race template image" to every race box? |
18:03.17 | Kirochi | like a "Sample icon" line |
18:10.36 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/3 |
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18:10.56 | Volus | Hello! |
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18:18.26 | Volus | Dotted. |
18:18.38 | Volus | Can you teach me how I can make a bot? |
18:18.50 | Dotted | no |
18:19.18 | Volus | No? :( |
18:20.13 | Volus | I was thinking about something a la Infobot. It would be called Volubot of course. |
18:20.40 | Volus | What do you think? |
18:23.19 | Volus | Kirkburn, what do you think? |
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18:38.48 | hurax | Volus |
18:39.10 | hurax | for something like infobot a simple eggdrop would be enough |
18:39.49 | hurax | just need a unixoid shell somewhere |
18:58.15 | foxlit | Oh wow our Kael article sucks |
18:58.39 | Volus | Our is better. |
18:59.03 | Dotted | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_begging oh the slight irony |
19:03.32 | foxlit | Volus: color me unimpressed |
19:03.40 | Volus | What do you think about our new front mage: |
19:03.41 | Volus | http://no.wow.wikia.com/wiki/Hovedside? |
19:04.51 | foxlit | Ugly :/ |
19:05.10 | Volus | Well, I didn't make it ^^ |
19:05.46 | Volus | However, we're not done yet. This is only stage 1. |
19:09.05 | pcj | Oh god, you make it sound like the final solution or something |
19:10.34 | hurax | i realize that i have, involuntrely, repeated my words in the swamp of sorrows discussion |
19:10.40 | Volus | The final solution... I like it! |
19:11.05 | Volus | The Final Solution for Pjc. |
19:11.59 | Volus | That reminds me of a movie I mad ages ago |
19:12.03 | Volus | made* |
19:12.57 | Volus | No, I won't share it with you. It was never completed. |
19:13.34 | Volus | And I doubt you would see the humour in it. |
19:15.41 | winkiller | Bibi: are you there? |
19:15.47 | Bibi | no |
19:15.57 | Volus | Is there anything you would like to share with the rest of the room, Bibi? |
19:16.00 | winkiller | I am not 100% sure, but your rss feed may be a bit off atm |
19:16.06 | Bibi | probably |
19:16.09 | Bibi | ctrl F5 it |
19:16.10 | Bibi | and be happy |
19:16.12 | winkiller | I seem to be missing new posts frequently |
19:16.24 | winkiller | "atm" as in last days |
19:16.31 | Bibi | well |
19:16.36 | Bibi | it's been like that in the last months actually |
19:16.39 | winkiller | but maybe my feedreader, no clue :( |
19:16.41 | Bibi | it's bugged, I can't code |
19:16.46 | Bibi | end of discussion ! :D |
19:17.20 | winkiller | the default tinyportal one? |
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19:20.04 | Bibi | yup |
19:20.06 | Bibi | well |
19:20.09 | Bibi | it's a SMF feed actually |
19:24.16 | Kirkburn | Anyone, what do human rights have to do with democracy? |
19:24.35 | Kirkburn | I'm pretty sure one doesn't mean the other |
19:25.29 | Kirkburn | Yes, this is related to WoW :P |
19:25.38 | Kirkburn | Stonard is apparently an elective democracy |
19:25.58 | Kirkburn | Odolwa is incredulous, however |
19:26.46 | Kirkburn | Always sounds like an insult, saying someone is incredulous |
19:26.50 | Volus | Really? |
19:29.29 | Keolah | The United States is supposedly a democracy too, but still quietly violates human rights when they think nobody is looking. :P |
19:30.55 | Volus | The Americans have decided through their democracy to violate human rights. |
19:31.46 | Bagginswww | well its not just US |
19:32.00 | Keolah | Didn't you know, anyone that looks suspicious at an airport is an "enemy compatant"? :p |
19:32.01 | Bagginswww | quite a few United Nations states involved too |
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19:33.05 | Volus | Because the American people forced their hand |
19:33.22 | Guest5465 | Hi |
19:33.30 | Bagginswww | Hawaii might have been illegally taken over by international law standards, but if US hadn't of done it sadly another member of the family of Nations would have... |
19:33.39 | Keolah | Because the Iraqis ATTACKED OUR FREEDOM! (I don't remember when they did that, but Bush said they did, so it MUST be true!) |
19:34.01 | Volus | No, they didn't |
19:34.05 | Bagginswww | Well terrorists are usually mult-ethnic |
19:34.26 | Volus | Yeah. |
19:34.31 | Volus | And Bush lied to his people. |
19:34.45 | Bagginswww | there are quire a few terrorists from different nations that can be blaimed. We could attack france :0 |
19:34.47 | Corgan | o.O |
19:34.50 | Keolah | And those... weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist! :) |
19:34.55 | Corgan | How did I manage to get +v in here |
19:34.59 | Keolah | Carefully. |
19:35.07 | Bagginswww | lol it depends on ones definition of weapons of mass destruction... which makes that term so lame |
19:35.23 | Bagginswww | its very unspecific |
19:35.27 | Keolah | I consider the most heinous weapon of mass destruction to be Britney Spears' voice. |
19:35.32 | Bagginswww | LOL |
19:35.35 | Volus | BIBI IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! |
19:36.07 | Keolah | Michael Jackson's face comes pretty close too. |
19:36.22 | Bagginswww | scuds being one of the weakest weapons known compared to what modern military can produce have been called weapons of mass destruction :p |
19:36.29 | Guest5465 | Well this conversation is way too deep for me so bye |
19:36.39 | Bagginswww | if it can go boom it can be a WMD :p |
19:36.41 | Keolah | lol |
19:37.10 | Keolah | And you can't take a compass and protractor on an airplane.. because they're weapons of math instruction. |
19:37.18 | Bagginswww | though it doesn't even have to go "boom", strangly biological or chemical warfare fall under the definition too :p |
19:37.23 | Bagginswww | LOL |
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19:38.28 | Bagginswww | I've even heard handguns, and rpgrendadess put under the definition :p |
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19:38.48 | Bagginswww | well guns if they use explosive projectiles |
19:38.55 | Voluspaa | Shhh! |
19:38.56 | Kirochi | could someone help me with this goddamned icons? |
19:39.00 | Bagginswww | or armor piercing |
19:39.01 | Kirochi | these* |
19:39.05 | Voluspaa | Perhaps Bush is listening?! |
19:39.13 | Bagginswww | LOL |
19:39.23 | Bagginswww | he can take his patriot act adn shove it up his... |
19:39.44 | Voluspaa | Well, this is an American server, right? |
19:39.48 | Bagginswww | and the UN with him |
19:39.56 | Bagginswww | I'm from the US :) |
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19:40.11 | Voluspaa | Well, it's just a matter of time anyway |
19:40.16 | Bagginswww | heh heh |
19:40.23 | Kirochi | oi |
19:40.30 | Kirochi | I've asked you something |
19:40.55 | Bagginswww | well sadly we can't pull out of iraq now or it would destablize into clan fighting... and then we'd have even more terrorists coming out of it :p |
19:41.02 | Keolah | If Bush detained anyone that bashed him on the internet, there'd be more detainees in Cuba than Cubans. ;p |
19:41.10 | Bagginswww | LOL |
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19:41.12 | Voluspaa | Hehe |
19:41.23 | Voluspaa | Well, I'm glad we have the EU. |
19:41.47 | Bagginswww | LOL, and yet EU is part of the UN, which has just as much blame as the US :) well some of the nations |
19:41.48 | Voluspaa | Perhaps the Americans will dissolve the U.S.A. and join us? |
19:41.55 | Voluspaa | Nonsense. |
19:41.56 | Keolah | I wish. :p |
19:42.09 | Voluspaa | Who invaded Iraq? |
19:42.10 | Keolah | We have clearly proven we can't elect a competent president. :p |
19:42.15 | Kirochi | OI |
19:42.17 | Voluspaa | UN forces? |
19:42.24 | Bagginswww | Iraq was a joint effort of US, British and smaller UN groups |
19:42.28 | Bagginswww | yes US had the biggest number |
19:42.35 | Bagginswww | but it wasn't just the US |
19:42.37 | Keolah | (For the record, I voted against him ;p) |
19:42.43 | Bagginswww | I voted against the git too |
19:42.55 | Kirochi | I need someone to help me for god's sake! |
19:42.58 | Keolah | Not that it matters anyway. Oregon's always leaned democratic anyway. ;p |
19:43.02 | Bagginswww | mind you we would have went to war most likely no matter who became pres |
19:43.02 | Voluspaa | Not UN groups |
19:43.10 | Voluspaa | The UN has nothing to do with Iraq. |
19:44.31 | Voluspaa | I'm not sure, Baggins. Bush ordered his men to find reasons to attack Iraq. |
19:45.02 | Voluspaa | I don't think Al Gore would have done the same. |
19:45.25 | Bagginswww | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Assistance_Mission_in_Iraq there are definitly un troops in iraq |
19:45.36 | Keolah | And perhaps Gore would have managed to keep us out of debt, too, instead of putting us right back into the debt Clinton dragged us out of :P |
19:45.40 | Kirochi | you gits |
19:45.44 | Kirochi | help me |
19:45.58 | Keolah | Mind, Gore was a git too, but at least he wasn't gonna destroy the world or anything. :p |
19:45.59 | Bagginswww | Four countries participated with troops during the initial invasion (termed the Major Combat Operations phase), which lasted from March 19 to May 1. These were the United States (250,000), United Kingdom (45,000), Australia (2,000), and Poland (194). |
19:46.00 | Voluspaa | I meant the invasion of Iraq, Baggins. |
19:47.13 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/31 |
19:47.15 | Kirochi | help meeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
19:47.17 | Voluspaa | The Dollar's dominance of world trade is slipping too. |
19:47.17 | Kirochi | meeeeeeeeeeeee |
19:47.24 | Bagginswww | yep the dollar sucks |
19:47.25 | Kirochi | self-righteous suiciiiiiiide |
19:47.30 | Keolah | Yeah, you know it's bad when the Canadian dollar catches up ;P |
19:47.44 | Voluspaa | and Polish Zloty. |
19:47.46 | Bagginswww | but the point was the US was not theo nly one involved, and UN ultimately agreed on it. |
19:47.53 | Voluspaa | No, the UN did not |
19:47.56 | Keolah | The UN are full of gits too, but they're the best we've got :P |
19:48.08 | Bagginswww | The world is wastebasket |
19:48.25 | Voluspaa | THe UN decided to help mediate in the situation. |
19:48.56 | Keolah | We should, instead, go for _true_ democracy. Have votes for _everything_! :P |
19:49.12 | Voluspaa | Like Switzerland |
19:49.36 | Keolah | Then Bush would have actually had to have come up with a convincing reason to invade Iraq :p |
19:49.56 | Voluspaa | Like "gief oil" :O |
19:50.23 | Keolah | Hey, maybe we should be working on alternative fuel sources instead of invading other countries! |
19:50.34 | Voluspaa | I agree. |
19:50.58 | Keolah | Like, say, how about pushing solar power? The sun's not going to go away for a good while yet. And if it does, we're not likely to be around to care anymore anyway. |
19:51.14 | Bagginswww | UN should have stepped in declared US enemies and anyone who joined them enemies of international law. |
19:51.25 | Bagginswww | WW3 yay |
19:51.54 | Voluspaa | The problem with solar power is that it's waaaaaay more expensive than fossile power. |
19:52.02 | Voluspaa | ANd people don't want to pay for that. |
19:52.11 | Bagginswww | its not efficient yet either |
19:52.12 | Keolah | At the moment, anyway. What happens when the oil runs out? :p |
19:52.25 | Bagginswww | we just invade another country with supplies |
19:52.29 | Bagginswww | no big deal |
19:52.32 | Bagginswww | ;p |
19:52.33 | Keolah | However, I'm sure the efficiency and cost could be brought down to more reasonable levels with some further advancmeents. |
19:52.38 | Voluspaa | Baggins, the UN couldn't have done that. |
19:52.40 | Bagginswww | right |
19:52.50 | Voluspaa | I agree, Keolah. |
19:53.00 | Bagginswww | UN can remove members though. |
19:53.10 | Voluspaa | Removing the US would be stupid. |
19:53.32 | Keolah | We've been working for over 100 years on making efficient (and really inefficient) vehicles based around fossile fuels, after all. :p |
19:53.53 | Bagginswww | they dont' want truly effiicent vehicles |
19:54.01 | Keolah | The UN would collapse if they tried to kick out the US and they know it. |
19:54.03 | Bagginswww | cause then people would stop buying as much gas |
19:54.29 | Voluspaa | They wouldn't collapse. But the world economy probably would. |
19:54.40 | Keolah | Yeah, but what do gas prices have to get to before people draw the line and say "Enough already"? :p |
19:55.31 | Bagginswww | You know the cheapest source of energy right now is ethenol and true diesel |
19:55.44 | Voluspaa | Ethanol isn't cheap. |
19:56.16 | Voluspaa | Besides, using it would be unethic. |
19:56.18 | Bagginswww | lol, and that's why there are people converting it in their backyards |
19:56.23 | Bagginswww | setting up bootlegging |
19:56.25 | Bagginswww | for vehicles |
19:56.30 | Bagginswww | some kid it recently |
19:56.32 | Bagginswww | *did |
19:56.41 | Bagginswww | he's getting some scientific reward |
19:56.48 | Bagginswww | its cheaper than gas |
19:57.11 | Voluspaa | What does he use to make the ethanol? |
19:57.19 | Keolah | I bet if the US took all the money they've flushed down the toilet invading Iraq, and tossed it at scientists telling them "Hey, come up with some efficient, long-term energy source!", they'd get better results. :p |
19:57.26 | Bagginswww | not sure, I think vegies |
19:57.46 | Bagginswww | only problem is kid is a minor LOL |
19:57.57 | Voluspaa | THere is another problem too |
19:58.13 | Keolah | I mean. |
19:58.14 | Voluspaa | People are starving: Would you use food to make fuel?! |
19:58.23 | Keolah | Why do we not have flying cars and space colonies yet!? Science fiction LIED! |
19:58.26 | Bagginswww | actually that's a poor excuse |
19:58.26 | Kirochi | Voluspaa> we have too much food |
19:58.32 | Bagginswww | we need to make 3everyone vegetarians |
19:58.46 | Voluspaa | There is enough food in the western world |
19:58.47 | Bagginswww | there is plenty of vegetable style food and places to grow it |
19:58.57 | Bagginswww | but animals eat most of the food |
19:58.57 | Kirochi | making fuel of it would avoid wasting it as we're doing every day |
19:59.06 | Bagginswww | and its enefficent source of energy |
19:59.12 | Voluspaa | However, in Africa, children are dying because of malnutrition. |
19:59.16 | Keolah | Americans are too fat. |
19:59.17 | Bagginswww | meat has half the enrgy of the original vegetable source |
19:59.19 | Kirochi | hundreds of tons of overproduction are burnt down or thrown in the nature |
19:59.26 | Voluspaa | We ought to solve this problem before we begin wasting foodl. |
19:59.26 | Kaso | Isnt the problem with bioethenol that if you wanted to totally replace petroloium with it it'd involve covering like 90% of the earth's surface with corn to make it |
19:59.36 | Kirochi | I hate corn |
19:59.42 | Voluspaa | S |
19:59.48 | Kirochi | The internet is for corn |
20:00.01 | Bagginswww | voluspa if hav emore than enough food for biofules and feed the world ten times over, but people don't care |
20:00.24 | Bagginswww | remember rwanda? people didn't want to get involved |
20:00.26 | Kirochi | Why you think the net was born? Corn corn corn. |
20:00.42 | Keolah | And what if the US had spent all that money to "invade" some third world country with food and humanitarian aid? Then everyone would love us instead of being pissed at us. :P |
20:00.48 | Voluspaa | Perhaps now. But the population is increasing. |
20:01.02 | Bagginswww | disease will stop that |
20:01.08 | Kirochi | ouch |
20:01.11 | Bagginswww | the more people you have cramped together |
20:01.12 | Kirochi | you big meanie |
20:01.12 | Keolah | Space colonies will stop that! |
20:01.19 | Bagginswww | the more likely for an epidemic |
20:01.23 | Keolah | We just ship all the extras off to Mars. |
20:01.26 | Kirochi | let's hope Chuck Norris will stop that |
20:01.28 | Bagginswww | heh heh |
20:01.30 | Keolah | And if we haven't figured out terraforming by then, they'll suffocate. |
20:01.38 | Voluspaa | brb |
20:01.40 | Keolah | Problem solved! |
20:02.03 | Kirochi | Chuck Norris' farts terraform everything. Unfortunately he has decided to fart only once. |
20:02.05 | Bagginswww | Nature tends have to have its way of finding a final solution :p |
20:02.25 | Keolah | But it's not much problem, anyway. The world's not going to survive another hundred years anyway. |
20:02.35 | Kirochi | no sh*t |
20:02.38 | Bagginswww | there has been like 10 near extinctions in biological history :p |
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20:03.10 | Keolah | After the smallpox outbreak, the survivors will panic and nuke the rest to oblivion ;p |
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20:03.16 | Bagginswww | hah hah |
20:03.37 | ecs | how on earth did i not know about this?! |
20:03.40 | Kirochi | Kirkburn |
20:03.47 | Bagginswww | when ants become too overpopulated they start attacking rival colonies |
20:03.53 | Bagginswww | yes war exists in nature :p |
20:03.54 | Keolah | Just like in SimAnt! |
20:03.59 | Bagginswww | heh heh |
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20:04.08 | Raws|w | Man, I thought you were talking about SimAnt to begin with |
20:04.11 | Bagginswww | yes we may die the roaches live on |
20:04.13 | Kirochi | yeah, and SimAntec kills viruses in the colonies |
20:05.28 | Keolah | But then, what if it turns out that the Earth is really just one highly advanced MMORPG, and we all wake up suddenly at our computers? ;p |
20:05.44 | ecs | i would want my money back |
20:06.19 | Keolah | And the global apocalypse is just the company's way of ending the game simulation when they've come up with something better to replace it with. |
20:06.33 | ecs | REFUND REFUND! |
20:06.41 | thunderchld|dead | I agree with ecs - refund |
20:06.42 | Keolah | Like better AI. Much of the world's population is not very convincingly human. And those random people that post spam online? ;p |
20:06.43 | Bagginswww | lol |
20:06.55 | Kirochi | so, the dead are just grown-up people that left the computer? |
20:07.00 | ecs | imagine a world wide /2 |
20:07.01 | ecs | oh god |
20:07.03 | Bagginswww | keolah there was a movie like that |
20:07.09 | Keolah | The Matrix? :p |
20:07.09 | Bagginswww | it was called Matrix Trilogy |
20:07.13 | ecs | roflmao |
20:07.15 | ecs | that was 3 movies |
20:07.17 | Keolah | But that wasn't a game ;p |
20:07.24 | Bagginswww | wellt technically it was two movies |
20:07.27 | Kirochi | enter the matrix? |
20:07.29 | Bagginswww | they just split the seocnd in half |
20:07.32 | Keolah | And it wouldn't involve robots. |
20:07.35 | ecs | pfft |
20:07.48 | Keolah | So, yes, I'm gonna start a new religion. |
20:07.57 | Keolah | Followers will be called "players". Unbelievers will be known as "NPCs". ;p |
20:08.02 | Bagginswww | LOL |
20:08.13 | ecs | is dick cheney an NPC? |
20:08.19 | Keolah | Obviously. |
20:08.37 | Bagginswww | well I'm off |
20:08.39 | Bagginswww | take care everyone |
20:08.42 | Keolah | He wanders around aimlessly spouting the same thing whenever you speak to him... |
20:08.54 | Keolah | bye |
20:09.34 | Kirochi | as no one seems to notice I'm in there |
20:09.43 | Kirochi | I. need. help. please. |
20:09.56 | pcj | kirochi stop making new sandboxes |
20:10.19 | Kirochi | pcj I didn't feel like erasing daily work |
20:10.26 | Kirochi | they all were busy |
20:10.47 | pcj | what |
20:11.19 | Keolah | I wouldn't be much help anyway :p |
20:13.08 | ecs | kirochi- make your own wiki and use it as a sandbox |
20:13.38 | Kirochi | >< are you dumb or something? |
20:14.11 | Kirochi | I'm just trying to add a new feature to raceboxes |
20:14.29 | Kirochi | Isn't it normal to use WoWwiki sandboxes for this? |
20:15.42 | ecstasia | wow trivia? |
20:15.46 | Kirochi | well, you implied that I shouldn't use WoWwiki |
20:15.52 | Kirochi | that wasn't nice either |
20:16.00 | Keolah | Everything trivia. |
20:16.04 | ecstasia | no, i was saying if they were complaining about too many sandboxes you could make your own |
20:16.09 | ecstasia | including wowtrivia? |
20:16.13 | Keolah | Yes. :p |
20:16.36 | Kirochi | I don't see why they should complain about too many sandboxes. |
20:16.45 | ecstasia | well they did |
20:16.51 | ecstasia | and it's fun to have your own |
20:16.56 | ecstasia | i've had my own wiki for months |
20:17.01 | Kirochi | I don't have much time for this |
20:17.03 | Keolah | I haven't updated my wiki in months. :p |
20:17.19 | Kirochi | and I want to get this stupid thing done, dammit |
20:19.20 | Keolah | However, I am uncertain that my dynamic trivia categorization filtering is going to work as intended. |
20:20.14 | Keolah | It's probably a bit much. |
20:20.44 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/31 |
20:20.47 | Kirochi | ok, seems to work |
20:20.59 | Kirochi | but why are they THAT far away from each other? |
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20:44.04 | Kirochi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVM4kgj_e8 |
20:44.10 | Kirochi | that's what I did sunday night |
20:44.29 | Kirochi | you can't imagine what pain in the ass it is to shoot at the Dark Portal |
20:47.01 | Sandwichman2448 | I added some major charicters that were listed but not in the catagorie. |
20:48.01 | Sandwichman2448 | Are they major? |
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20:57.34 | Kirochi | charicters in the catagorie... |
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21:36.40 | Kirochi | Husband beaters => http://www.kamazutra.be/femmeforte |
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