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| 00:25.44 | Kirkburn | lo eliah |
| 00:25.50 | eliah | oh hey |
| 00:26.00 | eliah | how's it going? |
| 00:26.15 | eliah | I must have this room on autojoin, I don't even remember opening it :) |
| 00:26.30 | Kirkburn | Good thanks :) Did wonder where our resident WoW Insider man had gone |
| 00:27.43 | Kirkburn | Heh, good to see people making change comments - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&curid=130320&diff=925113&oldid=924803&rcid=843824 :P |
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| 00:27.58 | Bagginsw | hmm interesting |
| 00:28.03 | Bagginsw | apparently there is a "Kingdom of Ironforge" |
| 00:28.11 | Bagginsw | within the continent of Khaz Modan |
| 00:28.27 | Bagginsw | it more or less only includes Loch Modan and Dun Morogh |
| 00:28.38 | Kirkburn | Sounds about right |
| 00:30.37 | Bagginsw | going to make a page right now |
| 00:36.55 | Bagginsw | I tell you political boundaries in Azeroth are insane |
| 00:37.28 | Bagginsw | Kingdom of Stormwind is technically only the city, according to Lands of Conflict and Day of the Dragon |
| 00:38.24 | Bagginsw | the kingdom of Azeroth is pretty much only areas of Duskwood, Westfall, Elwynn forest and parts of Redridge Mountains |
| 00:38.39 | Bagginsw | as well as nation of Stormwind |
| 00:38.48 | Bagginsw | then you have the continent of Azeroth |
| 00:38.51 | Bagginsw | which is everything |
| 00:39.18 | Bagginsw | erm not day of the dragon, I meant Tides of Darkness |
| 00:40.09 | Bagginsw | the kingdoms of Lordaeron are pretty straight forward |
| 00:40.17 | Bagginsw | other than Dalaran is the city and only the city |
| 00:40.31 | Bagginsw | and it lies within Alterac Mountains, which was the former Alterac Kingdom |
| 00:40.45 | Bagginsw | it was the same way according to Tides of Darkness |
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| 00:43.32 | Bagginsw | kirkburn I'll probably be seperating Kingdom of Azeroth article to discuss this distinction later |
| 00:43.55 | Bagginsw | I've already included quotes and comments of the boundaries of the Nation of Stormwind. |
| 00:44.48 | Bagginsw | which might actually allow for a merg of the City of Storwind article o the Kingdom of Stormwind :p |
| 00:44.54 | Bagginsw | *merge |
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| 01:47.52 | moveax | What do you guys believe is a good Tankadin build? |
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| 02:22.05 | pcj | wtf is fandy doing |
| 02:24.01 | Sky2042 | pcj: mmm? link plx |
| 02:24.22 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Greater_Ward_of_Shielding&curid=93662&diff=925328&oldid=925326 |
| 02:25.50 | Sky2042 | loooooool |
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| 02:51.59 | Lin | thank you all gnight |
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| 03:17.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Nightie night one and all! |
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| 03:25.55 | piu | err, how do I set a caption on a table again? |
| 03:30.24 | Sky2042 | |+ after the first line |
| 03:30.42 | piu | thanks |
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| 04:28.04 | Bagginsw | sky I'm trying to think of the best work to describe the kind of entity Elwynn forest, westfall and the like. |
| 04:28.12 | Bagginsw | Protectorate comes to mind |
| 04:28.41 | Bagginsw | *word |
| 04:28.52 | Bagginsw | they are all controlled or influenced by Stormwind but not part of the kingdom of Stormwind proper |
| 04:32.54 | Bagginsw | anyone else know if that'st he right term to use? |
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| 04:59.33 | Sky2042 | uh, territory? |
| 05:09.31 | Bagginsw | not sure, territorys are more like states in the US I think |
| 05:09.36 | Bagginsw | protectorates one step down |
| 05:09.56 | Bagginsw | a territory is the same thing as a state in Canada |
| 05:10.44 | Bagginsw | basically as I recall a protectorate is a sovergn country but it has dependence on another superior nation |
| 05:13.37 | Sky2042 | a territory is also like puerto rico |
| 05:13.39 | Sky2042 | ; |
| 05:13.41 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 05:19.50 | Bagginsw | ya puerto rico is treated much like a state |
| 05:19.58 | Bagginsw | at least for most laws |
| 05:20.09 | Bagginsw | some differences though |
| 05:20.26 | Bagginsw | We have US protectorates too |
| 05:20.37 | Bagginsw | its a different beast |
| 05:21.06 | Bagginsw | protectorates can't vote for US goverment officials as I recall |
| 05:21.12 | Bagginsw | but territories can |
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| 05:23.21 | Jiyambi | hullo all |
| 05:24.33 | Jiyambi | Sky2042, I made some modifications to the zonebox based on Baggins new contributions, can you check it out and give us another opinion? |
| 05:24.47 | Sky2042 | it's gotten a little long... hmm |
| 05:25.10 | Jiyambi | Yeah, and unfortunately some of the races take up two lines due to the pop info |
| 05:25.24 | Jiyambi | But I really like it better in the box than floating about in bullets at the top of the page |
| 05:26.31 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 05:26.48 | Bagginsw | alternatively I was going to do away with bullets and juse : indent |
| 05:26.56 | Bagginsw | but that still boxes it |
| 05:27.05 | Bagginsw | *float |
| 05:27.19 | Jiyambi | And I don't really wanna bring back the characteristics box |
| 05:27.42 | Sky2042 | jiyambi: if you know how to, set a width for the left column |
| 05:27.46 | Bagginsw | Sky it could be even longer, I chose to leave out other geographical info such as local resources, local religions and local languages, :P |
| 05:28.17 | Bagginsw | If I add those in they'll probably get their own sections |
| 05:28.22 | Bagginsw | in the main article |
| 05:28.23 | Jiyambi | hehe like I mentioned on your talk, it would be cool if we could incorporate stuff like that into the article or maybe in a separate section |
| 05:28.28 | Jiyambi | ..... great minds ;) |
| 05:28.32 | Bagginsw | heh |
| 05:28.40 | Sky2042 | religion and language can be incorporated in the article, can't it? |
| 05:28.51 | Sky2042 | in "Culture"? |
| 05:28.55 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 05:28.58 | Jiyambi | Sky: I will try to fix the widths, I may be too code illiterate tho :P |
| 05:29.03 | Bagginsw | Faith is gneerallly under culture |
| 05:29.08 | Bagginsw | same with language |
| 05:29.21 | Bagginsw | not sure where resources would best fit |
| 05:29.38 | Sky2042 | there's usually a resources list in the article. just add it there. |
| 05:29.45 | Sky2042 | as prose or a list |
| 05:29.48 | Sky2042 | your choice |
| 05:29.54 | Bagginsw | its only in list form |
| 05:30.00 | Bagginsw | not sure I'd want to convert it ot prose LOL |
| 05:30.08 | Bagginsw | could be kinda boring |
| 05:30.15 | Bagginsw | could be boring |
| 05:30.38 | Jiyambi | true, list is probably fine for resources |
| 05:30.43 | Bagginsw | Its funny one of the biggest commodities outo f Icecrown is "Undead" |
| 05:30.54 | Jiyambi | hehe |
| 05:31.02 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:32.54 | Jiyambi | hmmm, i dont know how i did it but i improved the column width.... *is a little scared* |
| 05:33.19 | Bagginsw | oh and jiyambi can you add a notice in the notations pointing out that lore section info originates from the Warcraft RPG books |
| 05:33.23 | Jiyambi | I apparently am so awesome I just fix things without knowing what I am doing.... |
| 05:33.33 | Bagginsw | and should not be used for speculation |
| 05:33.39 | Jiyambi | In the notes for the template? |
| 05:33.43 | Sky2042 | jiyambi: looks good :) |
| 05:33.46 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 05:33.56 | Jiyambi | okay cool. Sky: thanks lol |
| 05:33.59 | Bagginsw | specifically they came out of Lands of Mystery, and Lands of Conflict |
| 05:34.05 | Jiyambi | kk |
| 05:34.27 | Sky2042 | Jiyambi: might want to add a pixel or two more between the titles and the info though |
| 05:34.30 | Bagginsw | and some correllation in World of Warcraft The Roleplaying Game corebook too |
| 05:36.08 | Bagginsw | also another good optional section might be one used for towns, and cities. |
| 05:36.33 | Bagginsw | to mark if they are considered "encampment", "village", "Metropolis" etc |
| 05:36.53 | Bagginsw | if anyone is interested in that kind of detail |
| 05:39.20 | Bagginsw | well I"m off I'll talk later |
| 05:40.02 | Jiyambi | Those details may best be added at that specific city/town's page |
| 05:40.30 | Bagginsw | don't we ahve a townbox? |
| 05:40.45 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw nope. |
| 05:41.04 | Bagginsw | what's that being used in darnassus? |
| 05:41.28 | Bagginsw | ahh factionbox |
| 05:41.55 | Bagginsw | we should something for towns |
| 05:42.08 | Bagginsw | for towns with population numbers |
| 05:42.27 | Bagginsw | and how they classify |
| 05:43.13 | Bagginsw | well I'm definitely off LOL |
| 05:44.52 | Jiyambi | I updated the documentation and attempted to add more cellpadding, not sure it worked tho |
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| 05:44.54 | Sky2042 | "Players no longer gain the moving AOE radius bonus if they are jumping." lol |
| 05:44.58 | Sky2042 | m |
| 05:45.17 | Jiyambi | I should be studying for my midterm tomorrow :( |
| 05:45.37 | Sky2042 | lol truedat |
| 05:45.42 | Sky2042 | padding looks good |
| 05:45.49 | Jiyambi | yay :) |
| 05:46.12 | Sky2042 | noooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:46.23 | Jiyambi | o.O |
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| 05:46.38 | Jiyambi | for why? |
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| 05:48.38 | Sky2042 | because |
| 05:49.04 | Jiyambi | So is it pretty enough now? |
| 05:49.17 | Jiyambi | can I update other pages without fear of massive revert? |
| 05:50.03 | Sky2042 | minor and major settlements both likely need a valign="top" |
| 05:50.08 | Sky2042 | otherwise, fine |
| 05:50.43 | Jiyambi | good point |
| 05:52.29 | Jiyambi | they have been aligned. |
| 06:03.25 | Jiyambi | hehe |
| 06:03.45 | Jiyambi | Well I had best be off, I updated Durotar and Teldrassil and thats it for now. adios! |
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| 06:19.29 | Sky2042 | jesusu. |
| 06:19.36 | Sky2042 | killed [[Paladin]] |
| 06:19.41 | Sky2042 | [[Paladin]] |
| 06:19.41 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin |
| 06:22.54 | Sky2042 | weeeee |
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| 06:46.08 | Baconia | WASSA |
| 06:46.28 | Sky2042 | no, we are not wheat. please try again. |
| 06:53.31 | Keolah | Un'gorios: Part of a healthy breakfast. |
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| 07:17.07 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=2924 |
| 07:17.18 | Sky2042 | "our city" |
| 07:17.51 | Bagginsww | ya, well the arguement isn't if its their city |
| 07:17.59 | Sky2042 | i know :P |
| 07:18.23 | Bagginsww | Ceres is my home town :) |
| 07:18.29 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=2925 |
| 07:18.39 | Sky2042 | he once great gnome city now |
| 07:18.56 | Bagginsww | ya all references I find only call it city |
| 07:18.59 | Bagginsww | or the gnome city |
| 07:19.04 | Bagginsww | or the technocity |
| 07:19.07 | Bagginsww | blah blah |
| 07:19.09 | Bagginsww | city |
| 07:19.27 | Bagginsww | can't find a reference to city-state for it though LOL |
| 07:19.37 | Bagginsww | lots of other types of cities though |
| 07:19.43 | Sky2042 | "beloved city" :/ |
| 07:23.53 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:23.59 | Bagginsww | so uh anything in tides of darkness? |
| 07:24.08 | Sky2042 | no se. haven't got a copy :| |
| 07:24.12 | Bagginsww | :( |
| 07:24.23 | Bagginsww | I've only skim read the entire book due to little time |
| 07:24.51 | Bagginsww | so basiclaly I know where specific sectiosn are, but not necessarily every detail. |
| 07:25.09 | Sky2042 | http://books.google.com/books?id=2ftIRkZbySoC&pg=PA78&dq=gnomeregan&sig=z5Ist8u91HeglDemFa4fd7r8Dfs lol |
| 07:25.56 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:27.47 | Bagginsww | there is an underlying implication in the RPG that Gnomeregan answered to Ironforge, if any matters arose relating to both, although for the most part independent. |
| 07:27.58 | Bagginsww | but its not said specifically |
| 07:28.11 | Sky2042 | sounds like the consitution's supremacy clause :o |
| 07:28.18 | Sky2042 | constitution's* |
| 07:28.58 | Bagginsww | lol |
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| 07:33.27 | Bagginsww | LOL, he's annoying |
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| 07:57.52 | Bagginsww | I can't find nargask anywhere |
| 07:58.25 | Bagginsww | only reference to dughan I found was in LoC and its only reference to him being ruler of elwynn |
| 07:59.03 | Bagginsww | he's not int he apg |
| 07:59.27 | Bagginsww | there really isn't that many books that go into specifics on obscure characters :p |
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| 09:07.45 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Westfall |
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| 12:29.27 | hurax | hi |
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| 12:58.27 | Volus|nothere | I'm looking for Wikia's queen. She here? |
| 12:59.32 | Kirkburn | Morning all |
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| 12:59.48 | Volu | Good afternoon, Kirkburn. |
| 13:00.29 | Volu | How are you today? |
| 13:01.06 | Kirkburn | Waking up |
| 13:02.06 | Volu | Ah, ok :) |
| 13:02.28 | Volu | So, what's are you going to do today? |
| 13:03.34 | Volu | Anyway, I have a problem. You're in the wikia team, right? |
| 13:07.11 | Volu | Kirkbuuuuuuurn! /whine |
| 13:09.50 | Volu | :( |
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| 13:27.24 | Volu | Kirkbuuuurn! |
| 13:37.08 | hurax | Kirkburn! |
| 13:37.18 | hurax | that was louder ;) |
| 13:37.56 | Kirkburn | Also, it actually pings me :P |
| 13:38.12 | Volu | Really |
| 13:38.16 | Volu | Well, good you're here |
| 13:38.27 | hurax | i know :) |
| 13:38.29 | Volu | Take a look at this page: |
| 13:38.43 | Volu | http://no.wow.wikia.com/wiki/Illidan |
| 13:38.47 | Volu | Can you fix it? |
| 13:38.55 | Volu | The pictures have an ugly white frame. |
| 13:39.43 | Kirkburn | It should be in the wowwiki css |
| 13:40.03 | Kirkburn | Strange |
| 13:40.11 | Volu | Yes, I know. Moonbook something. |
| 13:43.56 | Kirkburn | Well, I can only really suggest looking at wowwiki's css |
| 13:44.32 | Volu | I'll have a look then |
| 13:47.01 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: ESRB’s Vance Describes Game Rating Process in Gamasutra Inteview - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/17/esrbs-vance-describes-game-rating-process-in-gamasutra-inteview/ |
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| 14:05.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Have you noticed...? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/around-azeroth-have-you-noticed/ |
| 14:22.34 | Volu | Plingeling, you there? |
| 14:32.46 | Kirkburn | !jobqueue |
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| 14:34.02 | Volu | !infobot |
| 14:34.16 | Volu | ~infobot |
| 14:34.21 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 14:34.35 | Volu | Bots are dead :O |
| 14:34.38 | [NewsBot] | mIRCStats for #wowwiki updated by pcj! See the #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
| 14:36.53 | Volu | !wwstats |
| 14:36.54 | [NewsBot] | Channels stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
| 14:37.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Paying your dues with guild taxes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/paying-your-dues-with-guild-taxes/ |
| 14:37.20 | Volu | Oh no... |
| 14:38.36 | Kaydeethree | what the... whats this new curse masthead? |
| 14:39.20 | Kaydeethree | and an instant bug report: the sign in/create account link is 404 |
| 14:39.31 | foxlit | "Reduces threat caused by all actions by 30%" |
| 14:39.34 | foxlit | ffs, paladins |
| 14:39.44 | foxlit | Even turkeys don't get that much threat reduction, and we can't bubble! |
| 14:40.19 | Volu | A new spell? |
| 14:40.25 | Kaydeethree | kirkburn, you alive? all of the links on the main page are pointing to /wikia/Article and not /Article |
| 14:40.36 | pcj | fanaticism |
| 14:40.44 | pcj | talent change |
| 14:41.07 | Volu | They do, Key? |
| 14:41.12 | Kirkburn | Kaydeethree, no they aren't? |
| 14:41.28 | Kirkburn | Oh, on the Curse version |
| 14:41.32 | Volu | Wikia is taking over the business! |
| 14:41.52 | Volu | Anyway, what paladins need is a tool to make more threat. Not less. |
| 14:42.13 | Kaydeethree | pallies are getting more than enough threat if they're specced ret on the ptr |
| 14:42.28 | Volu | A retri tank? |
| 14:42.30 | Kirkburn | Kaydeethree, I think you got confused :P |
| 14:42.37 | foxlit | Kaydeethree: I don't buy that. |
| 14:42.54 | foxlit | Their attacks don't come with any additional threat, do they? |
| 14:43.07 | foxlit | (I'm whining, btw) |
| 14:43.09 | Kirkburn | No, they just don't have a way of reducing it |
| 14:43.21 | foxlit | Their way of reducing it is better than my way of reducing it! |
| 14:43.26 | Volu | Dotted! |
| 14:43.28 | foxlit | By a whooping 10%! |
| 14:43.31 | Dotted | Volu |
| 14:43.36 | Volu | Good-good |
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| 14:43.45 | foxlit | Hah, nevermind. |
| 14:43.51 | Fisker- | Salvation isn't a selfbuff |
| 14:43.54 | Volu | Zizanzu is wondering when you're going to answer her letter. |
| 14:44.00 | foxlit | Fisker-: Ignorance is not a defense. |
| 14:44.10 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 14:44.12 | Dotted | Uhm |
| 14:44.12 | Volu | It's an offence. |
| 14:44.22 | Fisker- | your ignorance is not a defense |
| 14:44.26 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.27 | Fisker- | good thing we agree |
| 14:44.32 | Dotted | Sure we can do that Volu i guess :) |
| 14:44.41 | Dotted | ~seen laurly |
| 14:44.43 | infobot | laurly <n=laurly@0x50a4082e.vgnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 5d 6h 26m 43s ago, saying: 'now you see why i posted it kal found it on relm forums thought it was weird'. |
| 14:44.44 | Volu | Great :) |
| 14:44.56 | Volu | Ignorance is one of the master supression techniques. |
| 14:45.03 | Fisker- | Firefox Kaydeethree :( |
| 14:45.25 | Kaydeethree | and what would you prefer I use? |
| 14:45.29 | Dotted | IE |
| 14:45.29 | foxlit | Fisker-: -30% talent-based threat reduction for paladins on PTR. |
| 14:45.40 | Kaydeethree | ahaha, no. |
| 14:45.49 | Fisker- | yes? |
| 14:46.02 | foxlit | What do fury warriors get, nowadays? |
| 14:46.10 | foxlit | or even on the PTR :) |
| 14:46.12 | Fisker- | 20% passive |
| 14:46.21 | Fisker- | and 10% talented |
| 14:46.34 | Volu | Not bad |
| 14:46.47 | Volu | Once upon a time we magi got 30 % too |
| 14:47.05 | Kaydeethree | there we go. now that I'm logged in the site's not pointing to /wikia/article |
| 14:47.11 | foxlit | Once upon a time mages got invisibility, so now their opinion on threat matters to no one. |
| 14:47.23 | foxlit | Fisker-: so why should paladins be better than fury warriors? :) |
| 14:47.25 | Kaydeethree | but this is going to be problematic for people who aren't logged in |
| 14:48.01 | Fisker- | You mean why should retribution paladins be better than fury warriors |
| 14:48.16 | foxlit | Consider that amended. |
| 14:48.51 | Fisker- | though the question is a tough one to answer as they have the same threat reduction, and as such should be able to do the same damage provided that they can keep using their abillities |
| 14:49.11 | foxlit | Well, no, they don't have the same threat reduction |
| 14:49.13 | Fisker- | not to mention that Fury Warriors > * pretty much these days, and every days |
| 14:49.23 | foxlit | *0.80*0.90 > 0.70 |
| 14:50.00 | foxlit | Where does the 10% come from, anyway? :) |
| 14:50.17 | Fisker- | improved berserker stance |
| 14:50.27 | Fisker- | besides you don't even know the mechanics of it yet |
| 14:50.54 | winkiller | "this makes a cence" |
| 14:51.00 | winkiller | I love forums |
| 14:51.14 | winkiller | or, sence |
| 14:52.36 | foxlit | "besides you don't even know the mechanics of it yet" -- it's on the PTR, isn't it? |
| 14:52.55 | Fisker- | yes |
| 14:53.05 | Volu | I could ask my contacts in the GM departement... |
| 14:54.07 | foxlit | Hrm, actually, that's good :) |
| 14:54.23 | foxlit | Now if only some paladins that do actual dps turned up on our doorstep when 2.3 hits |
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| 14:55.31 | elmargol | Is someone from the states in here? |
| 14:55.44 | foxlit | Though I suppose that's a gear/skills issue more than it is a class problem |
| 14:56.35 | Volu | No, sorry Elm. |
| 14:56.47 | Volu | Wowwiki is European now :P |
| 14:57.35 | elmargol | I have a question about the tax system of USA :D Every state has different taxes? |
| 14:57.44 | Volu | Yeah |
| 14:58.01 | elmargol | And if i buy something only I allways pay the DC taxes? |
| 14:58.03 | Volu | But everyone can choose to pay federal tax too |
| 14:58.12 | elmargol | online i mean |
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| 14:58.53 | Volu | I think you have to pay tax to your own country then. |
| 14:59.17 | foxlit | I think that in most states, you do not pay tax from online purchases |
| 14:59.32 | foxlit | anecdotal evidence suggests DC is special |
| 15:00.06 | elmargol | A song on Itunes costs 0.99 USD? right? is this tax included? |
| 15:01.25 | elmargol | (I try to compare prices in US VS EU) |
| 15:01.40 | foxlit | I don't think they cross-sell. :) |
| 15:01.42 | Volu | I don't think there's a tax on virtual items |
| 15:01.51 | Volu | But who knows? |
| 15:02.01 | foxlit | Some EU countries may actually tax things |
| 15:02.05 | Kaydeethree | some states tax net sales |
| 15:02.09 | foxlit | iirc, though, the 99 cents is what you pay |
| 15:02.14 | elmargol | foxlit: we pay 20% for everything |
| 15:02.31 | foxlit | 25% here :) |
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| 15:02.40 | elmargol | Food and some other things are exluded |
| 15:03.14 | Volu | Merverdiavgift :O |
| 15:03.28 | elmargol | strange how about a ps3 on amazon? they say 500 USD there |
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| 15:04.07 | foxlit | Oh, btw. |
| 15:04.14 | Volu | Tax excemptions |
| 15:04.19 | foxlit | You may be responsible for paying taxes from your own amazon purchases |
| 15:05.05 | elmargol | I'm not going to buy something from the states :D I'm just curios how much sony steals from us |
| 15:05.33 | elmargol | or apple... they allways do 1USD=1EUR |
| 15:05.53 | Volu | I think it's similiar to tax-free shops at air ports. You can buy xx litres/kilos for personal use without paying tax |
| 15:06.07 | Volu | What? |
| 15:06.30 | Volu | Dollars are less worth than Euros. How can they do that? |
| 15:07.42 | elmargol | well they do stupid buissines :D |
| 15:09.36 | pcj | Apple doing something stupid? Not a surprise |
| 15:09.56 | Fisker- | OMG MICROSOFT FANBOY LOLOL |
| 15:10.13 | elmargol | <- linux |
| 15:10.33 | Fisker- | then you hate yourself LOLOL |
| 15:11.18 | elmargol | ipod touch is 426.52 USD here (tax included) |
| 15:11.27 | elmargol | you pay 299USD |
| 15:11.55 | Volu | Well, let's hope that the EU states will agree on Directive 2007/78845/54 on file sharing |
| 15:12.47 | Volu | Then no one in Europe will have to pay for apple's music :) |
| 15:13.10 | elmargol | Noone is going to pay for music anyway |
| 15:13.15 | Fisker- | DO NOT BUY AN IPOD |
| 15:13.17 | Fisker- | SERIOUSLY |
| 15:13.25 | elmargol | I have one and I hate it |
| 15:13.26 | Fisker- | i'm going to launch ICBM's |
| 15:13.39 | Dotted | iCBM ho ho |
| 15:14.07 | Volu | Is that a new MP3-player or an interbalistic missile? |
| 15:14.14 | elmargol | at the end we are paying taxis and music is for free |
| 15:15.21 | elmargol | like 5 USD on your phone bill every month and you are free to download everything you like |
| 15:16.10 | Volu | With the Directive you wouldn't :) |
| 15:16.20 | foxlit | iPods are great, clearly :) |
| 15:16.38 | Volu | Do you know what they called them before? |
| 15:16.55 | Volu | iMacs! |
| 15:18.22 | Volu | iPods suckssors. |
| 15:18.43 | hurax | what directive? |
| 15:19.14 | Volu | Directive on File Sharing. |
| 15:20.57 | hurax | and what does it say? death punishment will be allowed again, but only for serious crimes like filesharing? |
| 15:21.51 | Volu | No, it legalises file sharing. |
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| 15:32.31 | hurax | where did you read that? seems unlikely since all rcent law changes were in favor of the industry |
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| 16:24.03 | Kirkburn | Kaydeethree, ping |
| 16:24.12 | Kaydeethree | pong |
| 16:24.39 | Kirkburn | Where were you seeing that link problem? |
| 16:24.57 | Kaydeethree | on the front page the first time I got to the wiki today |
| 16:25.08 | Kaydeethree | haven't been able to repro it since |
| 16:25.12 | Kirkburn | Weird, no sign of it here, logged in or out |
| 16:25.18 | Kirkburn | Perhaps they were fiddling the server |
| 16:25.37 | Kirkburn | Had an edit by a tech guy earlier, around the same time iirc |
| 16:25.53 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&curid=114973&diff=926025&oldid=899366 |
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| 16:36.01 | foxlit | grumble grumble, what is it with hosting support and asking for passwords? |
| 16:37.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Epic gear coming to Scarlet Monastery (and elsewhere) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/epic-gear-coming-to-scarlet-monastery-and-elsewhere/ |
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| 16:49.33 | Bagginsww | so ya kirkburn, not sure what you can see, but I can't tell if a sentence is double spaced or not in my monitor |
| 16:49.56 | Bagginsww | I looked at what you altered on deathwing and I can't see a thing LOL |
| 16:50.01 | Kirkburn | It only appears in the code, but it's bad practise anyway :P |
| 16:50.49 | Bagginsww | hmm, its weird. I don't think I ever double space myself |
| 16:51.00 | Bagginsww | or at least i try to aovid it |
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| 16:55.07 | Kirochi | ~ugt |
| 16:55.08 | infobot | i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:55.36 | Kirochi | manners, you guys. Greet a lady the way you must. |
| 16:55.55 | DuTempete | Morning, Kirochi :P |
| 16:56.51 | Kirochi | hey DuTempete |
| 16:56.56 | Kirochi | how are you? |
| 16:57.10 | DuTempete | alive, you? |
| 16:57.15 | Kirochi | still not |
| 16:57.23 | Kirochi | I'm a Lowborne |
| 16:57.27 | DuTempete | sorry to hear that :( |
| 16:58.04 | Kirochi | Let's ask the Bee Gees what their secret is |
| 16:58.14 | Kirochi | the New York Times effect on men bores me |
| 16:58.20 | DuTempete | probably drugs |
| 16:58.54 | DuTempete | I know what my cure will be, but it's not something I can just up and do, atm. :P |
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| 16:59.43 | Kirochi | eugh, I don't wanna know, knowing you |
| 17:00.04 | DuTempete | lol, now I wanna know what you're thinking of. :P |
| 17:01.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Beowulf movie contest: Win free WoW for a year! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/beowulf-contest-win-free-wow-for-a-year/ |
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| 17:03.27 | Kirochi | it does not hundreds of consenting fantasies partners letting you win at Def Jam Vendetta |
| 17:04.12 | DuTempete | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.53 | Kirkburn | Whatever it is, it sounds scary |
| 17:06.14 | DuTempete | That it does. |
| 17:06.40 | Kirochi | (street wrestling video game) |
| 17:06.45 | Kirochi | (scary enough) |
| 17:06.55 | Kirochi | "Ow yeah bruise me" |
| 17:07.43 | Kirochi | it does not involve* ah shoot |
| 17:08.34 | DuTempete | `uhh, yeah... |
| 17:08.52 | DuTempete | definintely no street wrestling in my future. |
| 17:09.47 | DuTempete | That violent streak of mine that you may be thinking of is only reserved for Frenchies and people who try to steal my Kirkburn. |
| 17:10.03 | Kirochi | http://www.ruppert-lesite.com/dotclear/images/parutions/stevo_precouv.jpg |
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| 17:11.07 | DuTempete | That caption should say "La Porte Sombre, baby!" |
| 17:11.10 | Kirochi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.04 | Kirkburn | I don't get it :( |
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| 17:13.08 | Kirochi | Kirkburn, I have some spare neurona, I can let you borrow'em |
| 17:13.36 | DuTempete | neurona? |
| 17:13.43 | Kirkburn | Judging from your spelling of neurons, I probably don't want them :P |
| 17:13.48 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 17:14.02 | Kirochi | I fqfqvqdvv neurons |
| 17:14.08 | Kirochi | bite me |
| 17:14.08 | DuTempete | Sounds like you need them more, Kirochi. :P |
| 17:14.21 | Kirkburn | So do I, Kirochi, but only in private |
| 17:15.03 | Kirochi | ok, "s" and "a" keys are quite close on my keyboard, stfu |
| 17:15.14 | Kirochi | I have wide fingertips :'( |
| 17:15.51 | DuTempete | You have the same keyboard format as most other people, Kirochi. It isn't our fault you have fat fingers. |
| 17:16.12 | Kirochi | I have an AZERTY |
| 17:16.19 | Kirochi | you have a qwerty |
| 17:16.26 | Kirochi | don't make me laugh |
| 17:16.27 | DuTempete | well, there's your problem |
| 17:16.38 | DuTempete | Get a real fucking keyboard. :P |
| 17:16.51 | Kirochi | shuddup, my keyboard works fine for French needs |
| 17:17.46 | Bagginsww | well I did find one reference to "kingdom of gnomeregan" however its part of the madness of Gelbin Mekkatorque |
| 17:17.53 | Bagginsww | so we can't legitemtly trust it |
| 17:18.12 | Bagginsww | He envisioned a great kingdom out |
| 17:18.12 | Bagginsww | of Gnomeregan, carved out of the entire western half |
| 17:18.12 | Bagginsww | of Dun Morogh, |
| 17:18.16 | Kirochi | aw Bagginsww, so you also vomit the <King of Gnomes> tag? |
| 17:18.17 | Bagginsww | erm sico |
| 17:18.19 | Bagginsww | I mean |
| 17:18.24 | Bagginsww | sicco |
| 17:18.28 | Kirochi | Sicko Thermaplugg |
| 17:18.30 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 17:18.44 | Bagginsww | ya king of gnomes tag isn't literal btw |
| 17:18.49 | Bagginsww | according to APG |
| 17:19.04 | Bagginsww | any high tinker can take on a silly name when they go into office |
| 17:19.13 | Kirochi | oO I just figured out that Thermaplugg's first name was actualy a joke |
| 17:19.23 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/High_Tinker |
| 17:19.30 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 17:19.32 | Kirochi | actually* |
| 17:19.47 | Kirochi | "I'm not retarded, I'm just French"--Me |
| 17:20.21 | Bagginsww | well atually I tink sicco may be a real name |
| 17:20.39 | Bagginsww | http://www.beyond-branding.com/authors/vangelder.htm |
| 17:21.24 | Bagginsww | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicco_Mansholt |
| 17:22.41 | Bagginsww | apparently the name is used in netherlands |
| 17:22.45 | Kirochi | hey, btw, did you answer my question about the map? |
| 17:23.20 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 17:23.24 | Bagginsww | I gave you al ink |
| 17:23.25 | Kirochi | ah right |
| 17:23.35 | Bagginsww | and no I can't scan the entire thing |
| 17:23.38 | Bagginsww | its way to big |
| 17:23.38 | Kirochi | why on Earth did I unwatch your user page? oO |
| 17:23.54 | Bagginsww | because too many people message me? |
| 17:24.14 | Kirochi | maybe |
| 17:24.41 | Kirochi | but why did I leave Village Pump in my list then? |
| 17:24.48 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 17:25.06 | Bagginsww | If I ever get free time I might scan parts of it in by zone |
| 17:25.10 | Bagginsww | but not the entire map, LOL |
| 17:25.13 | Kirochi | w-wait |
| 17:25.21 | Bagginsww | Yes I have one |
| 17:25.30 | Kirochi | did you actually pay $20 for THAT? |
| 17:25.39 | Bagginsww | um less than that |
| 17:25.48 | Bagginsww | amazon |
| 17:25.59 | Bagginsww | btw its very cool |
| 17:26.09 | Kirochi | I guess so :D |
| 17:26.11 | Bagginsww | [[hyjal summit]] |
| 17:26.11 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/hyjal_summit |
| 17:26.20 | Kirochi | but I'm a bookkeeper so I don't need it |
| 17:26.31 | Bagginsww | I'm a bookkeeper too LOL |
| 17:26.44 | Kirochi | yeah but I'm bigger |
| 17:26.56 | Bagginsww | but I get some things for my collection for sole purpose of helping wowwiki out |
| 17:27.21 | Bagginsww | [[Hyjal Summit]] |
| 17:27.22 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hyjal_Summit |
| 17:27.22 | Kirochi | I didn't get ANYTHING |
| 17:27.36 | Bagginsww | how do you book keep then? |
| 17:27.49 | Kirochi | I, um, bought stuff |
| 17:28.06 | Kirochi | well, actually my mum did for me, cause I've been good |
| 17:28.19 | Bagginsww | good good so you do have a collection of something |
| 17:28.29 | Kirochi | and I might ask her to order on amazon the few books I still don't own |
| 17:28.41 | Bagginsww | I think most book keepers only have novels at least |
| 17:28.42 | Kirochi | I got the WotA trilogy and that's all |
| 17:28.45 | Bagginsww | or the video games |
| 17:28.59 | Kirochi | I have war 3 & TFT & WoW & TBC |
| 17:29.10 | Kirochi | (ok, I'm lying) |
| 17:29.18 | Bagginsww | about? |
| 17:29.29 | Kirochi | I have 70% of all warcraft books on my computer, pdf or scanned |
| 17:29.42 | Kirochi | I've downloaded full versions of War 1 & 2 |
| 17:30.03 | Bagginsww | what amuses me is 70% of the book keepers have grand titles that don't mean much LOL |
| 17:30.15 | Bagginsww | cool rpg books too? |
| 17:30.19 | Kirochi | my only grand title is "Majordomo" |
| 17:30.31 | Bagginsww | Shodo-Thane'jin ;) |
| 17:30.36 | Kirochi | I didn't ask for it and yet I have a slight hint of what it means |
| 17:30.52 | Kirochi | no, I made this one up because I was bored |
| 17:31.15 | Kirochi | I don't only bookkeep those three civilizations, but they are my favourites |
| 17:31.17 | Bagginsww | Shodo Pan leaders of the pandarens, formerly only one, and was the emperor |
| 17:31.19 | Kirochi | oh dinner time |
| 17:31.21 | Kirochi | see ya |
| 17:31.30 | Bagginsww | thane kings of the dwarves |
| 17:31.47 | Bagginsww | jin |
| 17:31.50 | Bagginsww | tribal chief or elder |
| 17:32.01 | Kiro`away | Kiro'jin=> nough |
| 17:32.08 | Bagginsww | so ya very grand |
| 17:32.10 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 17:33.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Forum Post of the Day: Worst NPC names - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/forum-post-of-the-day-worst-npc-names/ |
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| 17:57.50 | Kiro`away | Ew, I heard Second Life was rather in favor of Larry Flint for 2008 |
| 18:01.10 | Kiro`away | Flynt* |
| 18:05.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: An argument for permanent death - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/an-argument-for-permanent-death/ |
| 18:10.38 | Kirochi | yeah, Player Permadeath rules |
| 18:16.40 | Kirochi | "Aw, your char just died. Your keyboard will now electrocute you within four seconds." |
| 18:18.18 | Kirochi | "Don't cry for being a noob, cry for having been stupid enough to purchase WoW while being such" |
| 18:19.44 | Kirochi | The dragon, Alexstrasza, lets loose on Thrall. |
| 18:19.52 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Alexstrazsa#Thrall.27s_encounter_with_Alexstrasza |
| 18:20.04 | Kirochi | I was disappointed by the actual picture |
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| 18:20.35 | Kirochi | Woulda been great to see this bloody green animal get drowned in dragon dung |
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| 18:47.05 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 18:48.24 | pcj | I've implemented loot comparison |
| 18:51.07 | Fisker- | Bibi can nothing do :I |
| 18:51.18 | Bibi | what ? |
| 18:53.23 | Fisker- | you can't stop me from attacking you |
| 18:54.15 | Fisker- | o hi |
| 18:54.45 | kadrahil | anyone have an alliance on korgath? :/ |
| 18:54.57 | kadrahil | toon |
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| 19:01.28 | Kirochi | ohai2u |
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| 19:07.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Video Game Voters Network Fashions “Wall of Protest” - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/17/video-game-voters-network-fashions-wall-of-protest/ |
| 19:09.06 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Tauren cat form updated a little in patch 2.3 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/tauren-cat-form-updated-a-little/ |
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| 19:26.56 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Hover_tooltips.21 documented |
| 19:27.10 | DuTempete | Hey, Kirkburn, you're so fine! You're so fine you blow my mind! |
| 19:27.18 | DuTempete | Hey Kirky! |
| 19:27.23 | DuTempete | Hey Kirky! |
| 19:27.29 | Kirkburn | hehehe |
| 19:27.39 | pcj | how clever |
| 19:28.21 | Kirkburn | I hope your water isn't metered DuTempete :P |
| 19:28.38 | DuTempete | You think he needs to be hosed down that long? |
| 19:29.16 | DuTempete | I think he's just jealous I wasn't singing to him. :P |
| 19:29.21 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 19:29.34 | Kirochi | Kinkburn |
| 19:29.41 | Kirkburn | Well, depends on if we start up the WoWWiki wet t-shirt competition |
| 19:29.45 | DuTempete | Too many syllables in your name, pcj. Sorry. :( |
| 19:29.58 | pcj | :( |
| 19:30.07 | DuTempete | *my* white t-shirts are staying perfectly dry, thank you. |
| 19:30.16 | pcj | the syllable-to-letter ratio is 1:1 :( |
| 19:30.24 | Kirochi | Mr No-Boobs has nothing to say |
| 19:30.37 | DuTempete | I would be amused if the guys were to take pictures of themselves in wet t-shirts, though. |
| 19:30.41 | DuTempete | That would be awesome. |
| 19:30.47 | Kirochi | aw are you teasing me? |
| 19:31.19 | Kirochi | so you like guys enough to ask for a dorky-geeky wet t-shirt competition? how bold |
| 19:31.22 | Kirochi | :p |
| 19:31.45 | DuTempete | That would SO rock. |
| 19:31.52 | DuTempete | Winner could get a vid card or something :P |
| 19:32.03 | pcj | hmm i don't have a digital camera, but i can get one of my t-shirts wet and scan it in |
| 19:32.24 | DuTempete | That only works if you lay down on the scanner while wearing the t-shirt. :P |
| 19:32.54 | pcj | *parries |
| 19:32.59 | Corgan | ^ |
| 19:33.06 | Corgan | I just woke up @_@ |
| 19:33.07 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: BigRedKitty: A Video Special Event - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/bigredkitty-a-video-special-event/ |
| 19:33.14 | Kirochi | haha |
| 19:33.20 | Kirochi | I'm da lawgivaaah |
| 19:33.27 | Kirochi | hey, that's sick DuTempete |
| 19:33.39 | Corgan | oh shush you |
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| 19:36.25 | jumanjikid | yo |
| 19:36.31 | Kirkburn | lo |
| 19:36.35 | DuTempete | sup |
| 19:36.40 | Kirochi | hey |
| 19:36.52 | jumanjikid | hey got a question for everyone |
| 19:36.55 | jumanjikid | attributes |
| 19:37.14 | Kirochi | I ain't got no chest attributes |
| 19:37.17 | jumanjikid | how are they accumulated |
| 19:37.30 | DuTempete | uh... through gear... |
| 19:37.38 | DuTempete | ? |
| 19:37.42 | jumanjikid | heh :) |
| 19:37.58 | DuTempete | Is that really what you're asking or am I not understanding? |
| 19:38.25 | jumanjikid | hang on let me rephrase |
| 19:38.41 | DuTempete | And yes, Kirochi, we understand that you have a flat chest, no need to brag about it. |
| 19:38.51 | pcj | rub it in! |
| 19:39.16 | Kirochi | yeah, my lack of pectorals bothers me |
| 19:39.28 | Kirochi | *goes off to some more exercise* |
| 19:39.32 | DuTempete | You could have man-boobs... |
| 19:39.39 | jumanjikid | ok so your stats accumulate every level |
| 19:39.42 | jumanjikid | base stats that is |
| 19:39.46 | DuTempete | base stats, yes |
| 19:39.48 | jumanjikid | is there a formula? |
| 19:39.59 | DuTempete | I don't think so, I think it's just set. |
| 19:40.08 | jumanjikid | is there a reference? |
| 19:40.27 | jumanjikid | or has anyone come accrossed a guide? |
| 19:40.39 | DuTempete | I don't think we have one on the wiki. |
| 19:40.47 | jumanjikid | nope :) |
| 19:40.49 | jumanjikid | i checked |
| 19:40.54 | DuTempete | It's dependant on class, that I know. |
| 19:40.59 | DuTempete | Why are you wanting to know? |
| 19:41.31 | jumanjikid | im creating an online tool to determine stat changes by equipment |
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| 19:41.48 | jumanjikid | ie. is +4 int better then +5 agi etc. |
| 19:42.39 | DuTempete | Ah, that sounds interesting. |
| 19:43.11 | Kirkburn | jumanjikid, sounds like RatingsBuster |
| 19:43.14 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas_and_Game_Mechanics |
| 19:43.17 | jumanjikid | however, i cant determine stat changes if i dont even know what the stats are :) |
| 19:43.26 | Kirkburn | *RatingBuster, even |
| 19:43.28 | pcj | Per-class break down is on the individual pages |
| 19:43.39 | Kirkburn | That's an ingame addon that does that |
| 19:43.55 | jumanjikid | what if im not in-game |
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| 19:44.08 | jumanjikid | pcj: that doesn't outline the stat gains per level |
| 19:44.24 | Kirkburn | Stat gains per level don't follow a formula so far as I know |
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| 19:45.00 | jumanjikid | understood |
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| 19:45.12 | jumanjikid | thats why i asked id anybody had seen a reference |
| 19:45.18 | jumanjikid | *if |
| 19:45.38 | DuTempete | I could swear I've seen a list somewhere, but I wouldn't know where to begin looking. |
| 19:45.47 | DuTempete | except www.ask.com. :P |
| 19:45.53 | jumanjikid | :) |
| 19:46.14 | jumanjikid | the information is trivial, you'd figure someone had put it together by now |
| 19:51.25 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:55.46 | Kirochi | I'm still waiting for an add-on that writes lore directly on WoWwiki to replace me |
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| 19:56.38 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:56.58 | DuTempete | I think that's called Bagginsww... |
| 20:01.49 | Keolah | I was dreaming there was a level 350 giant dinosaur rampaging through my hometown... |
| 20:05.24 | Kirochi | yeah, and it looks like I'm doing his job too |
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| 20:21.06 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: PTR Notes: Pet in position - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/17/ptr-notes-pet-in-position/ |
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| 21:14.59 | Kirkburn | K, so I've been working on getting a collection of 31 featured articles, collated from the FA noms and my own searching |
| 21:15.07 | Kirkburn | [[Main Page/FA]] |
| 21:15.07 | [NewsBot] | Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page/FA |
| 21:15.14 | Kirkburn | That's got the texts |
| 21:39.51 | Kirochi | I think it's hot |
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| 22:16.50 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: sannse just added something to the wrong pump, you want to move the message to the vp? and maybe add a site message summarizing it? |
| 22:19.33 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Daily Blue, Headless Horseman, 2.3 reported issues - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-8194-1.html |
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| 22:35.45 | sannse | sorry Kirkburn, must be half asleep |
| 22:36.16 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o sannse] by sannse |
| 22:36.17 | Kirkburn | heh :) |
| 22:36.31 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:36.44 | Kirkburn | Any sort of timeframe on it yet? |
| 22:37.26 | sannse | yeah, I have some dates, basically over the next two weeks... but I in no way believe them ;) I expect it to be longer than that |
| 22:38.51 | sannse | Updrade time is /always/ hard work, and with more complications than we expect <grumble> |
| 22:39.01 | Kirkburn | heh, tis true |
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| 22:56.45 | Kaydeethree | lol |
| 22:56.52 | Kaydeethree | "You have 420 pages on your watchlist" |
| 22:57.50 | sannse | there are 44,585 articles! eep! watch more! ;) |
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| 23:32.10 | Kirkburn | Wow, Maraudon is nice |
| 23:34.05 | Bibi | welcome to WoW Kirkburn |
| 23:34.10 | Bibi | it's nice ! you'll see ! |
| 23:34.13 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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