| 00:14.31 | Adys | tekkub |
| 00:14.36 | Tekkub | no |
| 00:14.40 | Adys | too late |
| 00:14.58 | Adys | what do we do about elinks, do we keep the list dots or remove them? |
| 00:15.07 | Tekkub | remove em |
| 00:15.15 | Adys | ok |
| 00:15.21 | Adys | wiki gonna go down then |
| 00:15.23 | Tekkub | I just have no clue when I'm "allowed" to make such a painful edit |
| 00:15.30 | Adys | now is fine |
| 00:15.34 | Adys | its little load |
| 00:15.38 | Tekkub | cause last time people bitched at me :P damn EUs |
| 00:15.44 | Adys | its 2am in EU |
| 00:16.49 | Teomyr | which makes me think about going to bed |
| 00:17.03 | Adys | boo |
| 00:17.08 | Adys | not hardcore teo! |
| 00:19.46 | Teomyr | to my family, that's already hardcore :D |
| 00:36.00 | Teomyr | good night |
| 00:39.01 | dotted | nn |
| 00:41.13 | Tekkub | are we going to consider videos elinks? |
| 00:41.43 | Tekkub | I moved some into sub-sections of == External Links == and someone undid that change.. |
| 00:44.28 | Adys | y |
| 00:44.41 | Adys | i re-undid it |
| 00:46.19 | Tekkub | okey, thank you, just want backing |
| 00:46.34 | Tekkub | I don't like declaring things and reverting when I'm the only one that thinks so :) |
| 00:49.54 | Adys | movies should be in external links anyways |
| 00:50.05 | Adys | i dont think the === subsection === is necessary tho, if we have the icons |
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| 00:50.33 | Adys | We could have something tho |
| 00:50.54 | Adys | {{elink|type=movie|link=blaaah.avi}} |
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| 00:51.41 | Adys | type=movie defaults icon to the movie one (unless {{{icon}}} is precised) |
| 00:51.45 | Adys | and title=movie |
| 00:52.22 | Tekkub | well if we don't subsection it they'll be subject to alpha order with the other sites... |
| 00:52.59 | Adys | or we could make a different policy for downloads? |
| 00:53.01 | Tekkub | I think it's more logical to group the vids together |
| 00:53.05 | Adys | y me too |
| 00:53.13 | Adys | but without the subsection should be poss? |
| 00:53.31 | Tekkub | just a <hr> then? |
| 00:53.44 | Adys | hrmm |
| 00:53.51 | Adys | well i was thinking, the way it is atm its fine |
| 00:53.55 | Adys | the icon describes its a movie |
| 00:53.58 | Adys | lemme do something |
| 00:54.25 | Adys | btw |
| 00:54.37 | Adys | [[Image:Icon-{{{icon|external}}}-22x22.png| what happens if there is a param named external= ? |
| 00:55.24 | Tekkub | that's not a param |
| 00:55.29 | Tekkub | that's plain text |
| 00:55.40 | Tekkub | you're thinking {{{icon|{{{external}}}}}} |
| 00:55.57 | Adys | hrm i see |
| 00:56.22 | Tekkub | if not {{{icon}} then [[Image:Icon-external-22x22.png]] |
| 00:59.48 | Adys | tekkub, how about that? |
| 00:59.57 | Adys | [[Image:Icon-{{{icon|{{If|{{Equal|video|{{{type}}}}}|then=Movie|else=external}}}}}-22x22.png|{{{site|{{{2|{{{type|External link}}}}}}}}}]] [{{{link|{{{1}}}}}} {{{site|{{{2}}}}}}] {{{desc|{{{3|}}}}}}<br/> |
| 01:00.12 | Adys | there is probably a simpler way to do it lol |
| 01:00.36 | Tekkub | no that should be right... |
| 01:00.55 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AElink&diff=578782&oldid=577993 |
| 01:01.10 | Tekkub | you sure you've got the right icon name theough? |
| 01:01.14 | Adys | y |
| 01:01.22 | Adys | icon-video-22x22 |
| 01:01.23 | Tekkub | I thought it was Icon-video-22x22 |
| 01:01.36 | Adys | read carefully ^^ |
| 01:01.43 | Adys | OH SHIT |
| 01:02.01 | Adys | forget what i said lmao |
| 01:02.04 | Tekkub | yea I read "if type == 'video' then Icon-Movie-22x22 |
| 01:02.35 | Adys | ill redo that one sec |
| 01:03.18 | Tekkub | tho I don't see much advantage to changing one arg for another... "icon=video" --> "type=movie" |
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| 01:04.51 | Adys | ffs, why isnt {{{if}}} and {{{equal}}} integrated functions |
| 01:05.20 | Adys | arent |
| 01:06.38 | Adys | is MW 1.9.2 any good over current version? |
| 01:06.51 | Adys | well i bet it is... |
| 01:07.41 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AElink&diff=578791&oldid=577993 this should be better |
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| 01:09.22 | Adys | ok, added title= |
| 01:09.26 | Adys | for icon subtitle |
| 01:10.08 | Adys | oh btw |
| 01:10.15 | Adys | technical question |
| 01:10.23 | Adys | Say we do a template |
| 01:10.37 | Adys | called, for example, Template:Tooltip/Descr |
| 01:10.54 | Adys | that we <includeonly> this template in {{Tooltip}} |
| 01:11.02 | Adys | the content would be the description of the template |
| 01:11.16 | Adys | if we change {{tooltip/Descr}}, does it kill the wiki? |
| 01:12.39 | Tekkub | probably yes |
| 01:12.52 | Tekkub | because it changes the pages it's transcluded into |
| 01:12.59 | Adys | :/ |
| 01:13.04 | Tekkub | which is why we should push that shit into the talk page |
| 01:13.11 | Tekkub | but zeal fought me over that |
| 01:13.32 | Adys | well its already not normal it kills the wiki tbh |
| 01:13.36 | Adys | btw |
| 01:13.37 | Adys | {{Elink|site=wow-tactics.de|link=http://www.wow-tactics.de/20_taktiken/karazhan/attumen.php|desc=German Strategy Guide}} |
| 01:13.41 | Adys | doesnt belong on the wiki |
| 01:13.43 | Tekkub | for common templates, the only stuff in the main page should be the template code, a link to talk, and the cats |
| 01:13.52 | Bagginsww | anyone experts on ingame translator parsers? |
| 01:13.53 | Tekkub | why not? |
| 01:13.59 | Adys | German content |
| 01:14.00 | Tekkub | if it's on the de wiki yes |
| 01:14.15 | Tekkub | if it's not, well I don't think we should delete it |
| 01:14.28 | Tekkub | we never said we were engrish only did we? |
| 01:14.30 | Bagginsww | I notice there is a claim that Draconic, Demonic, Titan, and now possibly draenei share the same word lists |
| 01:14.37 | Adys | non english content is dnp |
| 01:14.46 | Tekkub | it is? |
| 01:14.53 | Adys | y, except for guilds |
| 01:15.00 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 01:15.05 | Tekkub | well then buhbye |
| 01:15.05 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:DNP |
| 01:15.16 | Tekkub | point that guy at the dewiki |
| 01:15.26 | Adys | been added ages ago |
| 01:17.20 | Adys | Attumen the Huntsman |
| 01:17.21 | Adys | Times Looted 12 |
| 01:17.27 | Adys | AmpWoW is sooo useful.. |
| 01:17.39 | Adys | remind me why we put up with these guys |
| 01:18.12 | Tekkub | cause we're supposed to be unbiased |
| 01:18.25 | Adys | goblinworkshop come on man |
| 01:18.31 | Tekkub | add them in |
| 01:18.38 | Adys | NOOooo |
| 01:18.40 | Tekkub | if you like the page, add the elinks |
| 01:18.52 | Adys | y but ampwow is autoadded |
| 01:18.58 | Adys | on every mob and item |
| 01:19.19 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 01:19.39 | Adys | the fact anyone can actually make a database using blizzards IDs doesnt justify the fact we should add them in tbh |
| 01:19.52 | Adys | they came up on irc and since someone had put it on elinksmob i added it to elinksitem |
| 01:19.58 | Tekkub | see now, I see it the other way around |
| 01:20.08 | Tekkub | the wiki is a one-stop info site to me |
| 01:20.33 | Tekkub | if it doesn't have the info I want, it should have easy links to other sites for the user to go to their preference |
| 01:20.54 | Tekkub | if a site is smart enough to use the common ID, there's no reason they shouldn't get links on many pages |
| 01:21.12 | Adys | tbh ive had a couple of concerns with ampwow |
| 01:21.22 | Tekkub | it's almost incentive to do things by the defacto starnard, instead of doing your own thing like thott liked to do |
| 01:21.22 | Adys | they are very unpopular, and almost unused, making them a bad database |
| 01:21.35 | Adys | and some of them ads are actually agressive ads |
| 01:21.37 | Tekkub | so you have issues, good for you |
| 01:21.51 | Tekkub | let users find the site they like and make that cooice themselves |
| 01:22.08 | Adys | i dont know |
| 01:22.12 | Tekkub | if I could remove sites I though sucked, I'd remove thott |
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| 01:22.34 | Tekkub | I'd make head the only links |
| 01:22.37 | Adys | thott and allak will disappear |
| 01:22.39 | Tekkub | and remove movies |
| 01:24.05 | Adys | its not because we are neutral that we have to be open to everything and everyone, in my opinion |
| 01:24.40 | Tekkub | okey, I don't think we have to go out and FIND sites to add in |
| 01:24.43 | Adys | ampwow plainly sucks, because their data is WAY off |
| 01:24.53 | Adys | here is the thing |
| 01:24.57 | Adys | if you want your website in |
| 01:25.03 | Adys | it has to 1/ meet the standards |
| 01:25.07 | Tekkub | but if a site comes along and starts adding in elinks, and they just so happen to use our standard, we should welcome them into the template |
| 01:25.10 | Adys | 2/ go through a vote |
| 01:25.28 | Tekkub | okey, I'll agree to votes |
| 01:25.53 | Adys | Here is what we are going to do |
| 01:25.55 | Tekkub | totally fine with that :) |
| 01:25.58 | Adys | Or at least my idea |
| 01:26.06 | Tekkub | vote on inclusion and order? |
| 01:26.20 | Adys | Order will be sorted after inclusion |
| 01:26.23 | Adys | First |
| 01:26.31 | Adys | Allakhazam: Keep/Remove |
| 01:26.31 | Tekkub | yea, I just mean votes for each |
| 01:26.36 | Adys | Thottbot:Keep/Remove |
| 01:26.47 | Adys | Head:Keep/Remove (if this one doesnt pass I veto it >.>) |
| 01:27.16 | Adys | And ofc same for ampwow |
| 01:27.18 | Tekkub | make it clear that removal from the template does not mean removal of manual elinks also |
| 01:27.26 | Adys | Aye |
| 01:27.34 | Adys | manual ones are welcome |
| 01:27.43 | Adys | still i wonder |
| 01:27.55 | Adys | if we actually plan to use a wowhead/wowwiki database for items |
| 01:27.59 | Adys | and probably npcs |
| 01:28.01 | Adys | like suggested |
| 01:28.10 | Adys | we are probably going to stop using external links altogether |
| 01:28.19 | Adys | since the page basically wont be "ours" anymore kind of |
| 01:28.23 | Tekkub | I think people would be all over it if it was possible right now |
| 01:28.42 | Adys | Ok, Im starting up the votes then |
| 01:28.45 | Adys | give me a couple of mins |
| 01:28.52 | Tekkub | but since we've got to get root admin interest in maintaining the wiki first... |
| 01:29.01 | Tekkub | *cough cough* |
| 01:29.20 | Tekkub | Some days I feel like I work for a huge corporation here |
| 01:29.37 | Tekkub | to get anything done you have to fight with management that just doesn't care about you |
| 01:29.45 | Adys | heh |
| 01:36.06 | Adys | Ok |
| 01:36.11 | Adys | How does that look |
| 01:36.35 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Allakhazam_removal_vote |
| 01:37.10 | Adys | feel free to improve, im copypasting after that for ampwow and thottbot |
| 01:37.20 | Adys | if someone has the guts to propose wowhead, clap your hands |
| 01:41.38 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/AmpWoW_removal_vote |
| 01:41.45 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Thottbot_removal_vote |
| 01:42.56 | Tekkub | merf |
| 01:50.56 | nemppu | id vote keep |
| 01:50.59 | nemppu | like. why not keep? |
| 01:51.34 | Adys | because these websites suck, with all my neutrality inside |
| 01:52.03 | nemppu | thottbot is very much lovely o,ô |
| 01:52.14 | nemppu | of all the pages i like thottbot the most |
| 01:52.23 | Bleeter | sicko |
| 01:52.28 | Adys | idd |
| 01:52.47 | nemppu | ok i admit some bit of my liking towards thottbot might be how it looks and maybe some nostalgy involved |
| 01:53.02 | Adys | Disenchant into morrowgrain yayaya |
| 01:53.04 | nemppu | but, as far as im concerned its the most clear and works great |
| 01:53.26 | nemppu | though when looking for heroic mode boss drops wowhead tends to be a lot helpful |
| 01:53.31 | nemppu | but usually <3 thottbot |
| 01:57.12 | Adys | BEEP BEEP |
| 01:57.18 | Adys | Check out WW:EL |
| 02:00.34 | Tekkub | spam is so funny |
| 02:00.42 | Tekkub | "Get a visit from the big dick fairy" |
| 02:00.50 | Tekkub | that has so many interpretations... |
| 02:03.22 | Adys | slooooowwwwwwiki |
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| 02:05.38 | Adys | ok i give up |
| 02:05.41 | Adys | its gone just too slox |
| 02:05.43 | Adys | slow... |
| 02:07.31 | Bleeter | you guys should really get your provider to move you to lighttpd instead of using bloatware apache |
| 02:07.50 | Bleeter | (if what I'm reading of your server type is correct) |
| 02:08.14 | Adys | its always been slow |
| 02:08.16 | Bleeter | I'm 99.9% convinced it'd help out in the slowness areas |
| 02:08.40 | Bleeter | what's the backend? MySQL on the same machine? 'coz that wouldn't help much either, imo |
| 02:10.38 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d |
| 02:13.12 | Adys | Aight |
| 02:13.13 | Adys | off to bed |
| 02:13.15 | Adys | nn peeps |
| 02:13.19 | Adys | and GO VOTE |
| 02:13.20 | Adys | http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d |
| 02:18.41 | Skosiris | am I allowed to vote? |
| 02:19.37 | Bleeter | I voted, and I'm barely a user of the site |
| 02:22.08 | Skosiris | Tekkub: could you tell me more about the votes? |
| 02:22.55 | Tekkub | I don't see why you can't |
| 02:23.00 | Tekkub | I mean, you are a user |
| 02:23.14 | Skosiris | Tekkub: I'm wondering why Wowhead doesn't have its own removal vote (not that I want one.. :P) |
| 02:23.30 | Tekkub | cause adys was too pussy to make one :) |
| 02:25.40 | Skosiris | what would the result be if all sites are removed but Wowhead ? |
| 02:26.08 | Tekkub | all the other sites would have to manually add in elinks to pages |
| 02:26.21 | Tekkub | if they wanted their "free advertising" :) |
| 02:44.39 | Shadowed | what was the reason behind moving everything except wowhead anyway |
| 02:45.53 | Shadowed | reading too! |
| 02:48.08 | Shadowed | Why does wowwiki support items anyway? Unless it has some base in lore it seems pointless to record it when the sites like wowhead keep it up to date and gives you better data anyway |
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| 02:56.24 | Bleeter | Shadowed: that's the point afaik. the item info stuff is grabbed from wowhead. so, the argument goes, the 'official' external link should be wowhead, and others are invited to add their own |
| 02:56.37 | Bleeter | at least, that's what I took from the brief discussion I saw earlier |
| 02:57.21 | Shadowed | Yeah wasn't really sure if it would require manually adding new items, or if it would just draw from wowhead if X page is called |
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| 05:05.17 | Skyfire | lot's of stuff goin on in dis hear thred! |
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| 05:07.57 | Skyfire | not even a reply... |
| 05:08.20 | JunkHead-Work | Morning. |
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| 05:17.55 | Skyfire | morning?... |
| 05:17.58 | Skyfire | wtf? |
| 05:18.03 | Skyfire | damn europeans. |
| 05:18.05 | Skyfire | :P |
| 05:19.17 | JunkHead-Work | Umm... no. |
| 05:20.19 | Skosiris | Skyfire: don't forget to cast your votes! |
| 05:27.40 | Skyfire | where am I voting, and why are you telling me...? |
| 05:27.51 | Skyfire | so, where are you... if not eruope? aussieland? |
| 05:28.44 | Skosiris | [22:13] <Adys> Aight |
| 05:28.44 | Skosiris | [22:13] <Adys> off to bed |
| 05:28.44 | Skosiris | [22:13] <Adys> nn peeps |
| 05:28.44 | Skosiris | [22:13] <Adys> and GO VOTE |
| 05:28.44 | Skosiris | [22:13] <Adys> http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d |
| 05:29.21 | Skyfire | I wasn't here for that... |
| 05:29.44 | Skyfire | i actually did see all the edits earlier |
| 05:29.57 | Skyfire | i personally prefer thottbot to allakhazam |
| 05:29.59 | Skyfire | :x |
| 05:30.03 | Skyfire | that'll be interesting |
| 05:30.43 | Bleeter | 15:17 < Skyfire> morning?... << http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 05:32.18 | JunkHead-Work | Well, actualy, it is morning here now.:P |
| 05:32.33 | Skyfire | you ppl... |
| 05:32.41 | JunkHead-Work | It's 12:35 |
| 05:32.47 | JunkHead-Work | That's considered morning. |
| 05:32.51 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:33.13 | Skyfire | damn central time standard xd (that is central, isn't it?) |
| 05:33.28 | JunkHead-Work | Yes. |
| 05:41.41 | JunkHead-Work | http://epicslut.ytmnd.com/ <-- Hmm... |
| 07:11.45 | tekcub | hrm... I don't like Oxhorn anymore |
| 07:12.34 | tekcub | I mean, he's a flaming homo in all his videos, and a bear to boot, yet he's aparently, like, one of those freaky christian uptight bitches over gay marriage |
| 07:12.37 | tekcub | *sigh* |
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| 08:40.25 | Apollozeus | come on people |
| 08:40.53 | Apollozeus | we need more comments at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article |
| 08:55.44 | foxlit | Pushing featured article section to frontpage with two features articles was silly. |
| 08:57.57 | Apollozeus | agreed |
| 08:58.07 | Apollozeus | also, they aren't really featured articles |
| 08:58.18 | Apollozeus | they aren't in the list, nor was there ever discussion to add them there |
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| 11:07.36 | Teomyr | morning |
| 11:07.42 | Adys | heya teo |
| 11:07.52 | Adys | "go vote" http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d |
| 11:08.31 | Bleeter | 18:40 <+Apollozeus> we need more comments at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article |
| 11:08.39 | Bleeter | Adys: I voted :D |
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| 12:52.45 | Adys | Alright |
| 12:52.52 | Adys | {{cleanup}} now supports images too |
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| 12:55.54 | Mikk | kewl |
| 12:57.13 | Mikk | Adys: On a sidenote, allakhazam has much more accurate drop rate readings than wowhead for hte simple reason that there's so many more people running allakhazam |
| 12:57.23 | Mikk | Especially for lower level content |
| 12:57.27 | Adys | hm i would have agreed three months ago, tbh |
| 12:57.56 | Mikk | Mkay? I was trying to get some drop rate readings no lower level crafting stuff just the other day, and it had figures like "1 out of 15" |
| 12:58.10 | Adys | But WoWHead handles drops much better, fixes incorrect droprates due to double loot etc |
| 12:58.12 | Mikk | Anyway. Just my personal opinion. Just thought I'd share it |
| 12:58.19 | Adys | Aye i understand |
| 12:59.07 | Adys | Vysogota does have a point |
| 12:59.20 | Adys | Allakhazam has "new stuff" faster than wowhead |
| 12:59.34 | Mikk | Yeah goes back to the # of people runnign the alla collector |
| 12:59.39 | Mikk | I imagine it'll change over time tho |
| 12:59.49 | Teomyr | but that could also mean that it has "wrong stuff" faster than wowhead ;) |
| 12:59.52 | Adys | hm, would say more like which people run the alla collector |
| 13:00.08 | Adys | very high end guilds not running wowhead etc |
| 13:00.16 | Mikk | That too |
| 13:00.48 | Adys | hm, im wondering what we are going to do with all these images |
| 13:01.02 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arkkoran_Muckdweller |
| 13:03.51 | Adys | This page has been accessed 378 times. |
| 13:03.52 | Adys | wow. |
| 13:03.58 | Teomyr | oO |
| 13:04.18 | Adys | this is just *not* the way to go |
| 13:05.14 | Adys | Im really sure we could get to something superb if WoWHead and WoWWiki would be linked somehow |
| 13:07.28 | Bleeter | boobies? |
| 13:09.09 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/AmpWoW_removal_vote lol, i think we are being mean even putting up a vote |
| 13:09.38 | Mikk | ampwow is actually underestimated, i think |
| 13:09.43 | Mikk | they have lots of nice utilities |
| 13:10.01 | Adys | yeah but not for stuff we use in elinks-item etc |
| 13:10.09 | Mikk | very true |
| 13:10.11 | Mikk | http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewResistances <- wow |
| 13:10.26 | Adys | i mean, they do, but {{elink}} ftw |
| 13:11.33 | Mikk | absolutely |
| 13:11.48 | Mikk | (heck, i voted for removing ampwow too) |
| 13:14.26 | Adys | Mikk: http://www.wowwiki.com/Resistance_equipment |
| 13:14.42 | Adys | argh sorry, now |
| 13:16.51 | Teomyr | i think ampwow could use a little more styling |
| 13:17.02 | Adys | how ya mean? |
| 13:17.08 | Adys | I just go type=ampwow |
| 13:17.28 | Teomyr | i mean, the site, not on our wiki :P |
| 13:17.33 | Adys | lol |
| 13:17.34 | Adys | ok |
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| 13:30.42 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elink yayaya |
| 13:36.07 | Teomyr | nice |
| 13:37.49 | Mikk | Adys: How about making the default for "title" something along the lines of "This link takes you to an external site outside WoWWiki"? |
| 13:38.05 | Mikk | And NOT defaulting to whatever "site=" is set to? (Which tbh it always will be) |
| 13:38.21 | Adys | its defaulted to "External link" isnt it? |
| 13:38.27 | Adys | at least it should be |
| 13:38.32 | Mikk | no, it's defaulted to what "site" is set to, if set |
| 13:38.37 | Mikk | OTHERWISE "External link" |
| 13:38.42 | Mikk | but site is always set =P |
| 13:38.44 | Adys | ooh |
| 13:38.48 | Adys | i screwed up |
| 13:39.04 | Mikk | I noticed it when I added an example to the page |
| 13:39.21 | Adys | just one sec ill modify that |
| 13:40.31 | Adys | How about now? |
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| 13:41.06 | Adys | gah timed out |
| 13:41.06 | Adys | sec |
| 13:41.58 | Mikk | "WoWWiki has a problem" ftw |
| 13:43.02 | Mikk | Editing global templates is so much fun |
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| 13:46.08 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AElink&diff=579554&oldid=579548 i think we need commented linebreaks =P |
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| 14:26.48 | Adys | ok |
| 14:26.55 | Adys | tried to simplify with switch |
| 14:27.14 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3AElink&diff=579595&oldid=579554 |
| 14:27.20 | Adys | i think i fucked up somewhere tho =P |
| 14:28.25 | Mikk | just remove the type stuff |
| 14:28.29 | Mikk | compmletely |
| 14:29.05 | Mikk | the right way is to just make a elink-typehere templates that pre-fill some of the params |
| 14:29.37 | Adys | hmm |
| 14:29.58 | Adys | im kinda a fan of having only one template for multiple stuff |
| 14:30.22 | Mikk | it also gets messy as hell when you're not using a proper programming language =P |
| 14:30.28 | Adys | true :P |
| 14:30.45 | Adys | ill see if i can fix that, and if not ill remove it aye |
| 14:33.07 | Adys | it seems like every case in title is blank |
| 14:33.42 | Mikk | and ofc another problem with coding overly-complex stuff is that everyone else becomes too scared to change it |
| 14:33.54 | Mikk | like me not even wanting to touch it to fix the "External Links" text =) |
| 14:33.57 | Adys | {{tooltip}} ftw |
| 14:35.35 | Adys | ha |
| 14:35.37 | Adys | its default |
| 14:35.40 | Adys | not case default |
| 14:35.58 | Mikk | yeah, {{tooltip}} makes me want to cry =( |
| 14:36.04 | Adys | ^^ |
| 14:36.10 | Adys | i love these templates tbh |
| 14:36.15 | Mikk | Don't get me wrong. I've been programming for 23 years. |
| 14:36.22 | Mikk | 10 years ago, I'd prolly have been all for it |
| 14:36.33 | Mikk | But these days I subscribe more to an "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" mentailty |
| 14:36.44 | Adys | hehe |
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| 14:37.20 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | did someone say they don't like tooltip? |
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| 14:45.48 | Adys | Bagginsww: beep |
| 14:45.52 | Bagginsww | hi |
| 14:46.04 | Adys | from User talk:Varghedin |
| 14:46.12 | Adys | Im pretty sure i saw something around these lines |
| 14:46.14 | Adys | a while ago |
| 14:46.27 | Adys | for draenei i cant say since it wasnt in game |
| 14:46.38 | Adys | but i believe draconic and demonic do share the same language |
| 14:46.41 | Adys | possibly Titan too |
| 14:46.57 | Bagginsww | Ya, I think it would help if we have examples though. |
| 14:47.15 | Adys | well dbcs ftw =P |
| 14:47.15 | Bagginsww | I need to find a warlock friend to cast curse of tongues on eme heh |
| 14:47.27 | Adys | let me find you something |
| 14:47.55 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 14:48.39 | Adys | Languages.dbc: Orcish, Darnassian, Taurahe, Dwarvish, Common, Demonic, Titan, Thalassian, Draconic, Kalimag, Gnomish, Troll, Gutterspeak, Draenei |
| 14:48.46 | Adys | LanguageWords.dbc.. let me see |
| 14:49.39 | Adys | Demonic is 8, titan is 9, draconix 11, kalimag 12, draenei 35 |
| 14:49.58 | Bagginsww | oh sweet, can you break down all those? |
| 14:50.11 | Adys | y |
| 14:50.26 | Bagginsww | Well it would be cool to have the word lists for all the languages |
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| 14:50.47 | Bagginsww | Varg's list draenei was a very nice addition |
| 14:52.08 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languagewords.txt |
| 14:52.14 | Adys | first number is the line (id) |
| 14:52.19 | Adys | second number is the language |
| 14:52.26 | Adys | third param is the word |
| 14:52.38 | Adys | Languages |
| 14:52.41 | Adys | 1=Orcish |
| 14:52.45 | Adys | 2=Darnassian |
| 14:52.48 | Adys | 3=Taurahe |
| 14:52.53 | Adys | 6=Dwarvish |
| 14:53.23 | Adys | 7=Common, 8=Demonic, 9=Titan, 10=Thalassian, 11=Draconic, 12=Kalimag, 13=Gnomish, 14=Troll, 33=Gutterspeak, 35=Draenei |
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| 14:53.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:53.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | did you write all that Adys? |
| 14:53.40 | Bagginsww | ok copying this down, for later |
| 14:53.50 | Kitan | Hello |
| 14:53.53 | Adys | yeah I got only that to do :P |
| 14:53.55 | Adys | heya kitan |
| 14:54.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | hihi :) |
| 14:54.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | impressive :o~~ |
| 14:55.04 | Bagginsww | Adys, great work. This is interesting |
| 14:55.41 | Bagginsww | have to head to my anthro class right now, I'll have to digest it later. |
| 14:58.56 | Adys | adk a bit |
| 14:59.15 | Bagginsww | ok, ttyl. |
| 15:00.34 | foxlit | "This fight is trivially more difficult than normal mode " |
| 15:00.44 | foxlit | Adjective failure. |
| 15:00.55 | Adys | im not sure what the guy meant |
| 15:01.12 | Adys | if he meant its not any harder or if he meant it is much harder |
| 15:01.57 | Kitan | Well.. I read it as it isn't any harder |
| 15:02.08 | Kitan | or if it is so little you can't tell. |
| 15:02.40 | Adys | hehe |
| 15:02.42 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=273198025&sid=1 |
| 15:02.47 | Adys | getting interesting answers |
| 15:03.11 | foxlit | "Wow is dying?" |
| 15:03.34 | foxlit | Because people can't spell present continous of die, probably |
| 15:03.47 | Adys | both are accepted, afaik |
| 15:04.37 | Adys | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dieing |
| 15:05.01 | Bagginsww | definitely some overlap with draconic, and demonic, and draenei, Titan, if not exact same word lists |
| 15:05.10 | Bagginsww | there are some differences |
| 15:05.20 | Bagginsww | but alot of words are the same |
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| 15:05.33 | Adys | freekin miranda |
| 15:05.35 | Bagginsww | fascinating |
| 15:05.40 | Adys | anyways, both are accepted afaik |
| 15:05.45 | Adys | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dieing |
| 15:08.25 | Adys | fixed anyways |
| 15:09.25 | Kitan | dying is wrong? |
| 15:09.28 | Kitan | howis that wrong? |
| 15:11.39 | Adys | no, dieing is not wrong, afaik |
| 15:11.39 | Adys | bu i cant be sure, so |
| 15:11.39 | Adys | i meant that both are accepted |
| 15:13.45 | Kitan | ahh |
| 15:14.34 | Kitan | Adys, which do you think is more important the Icon removal request or the Quality request? |
| 15:14.48 | Adys | quality request |
| 15:14.56 | foxlit | dieing is a redirect, dying is an entry :P |
| 15:15.16 | Adys | icon removal should not be done until all the tooltips are {{tooltip}}'d |
| 15:16.45 | Kitan | When a request is complete and a template may be deprecated just say so on the village pump? I did so anyway. |
| 15:17.37 | Adys | no need |
| 15:17.53 | Kitan | um ok... well I won't from now on. |
| 15:18.02 | Adys | unless its a really major template |
| 15:18.12 | Adys | but its not elinksquest's case |
| 15:18.22 | Kitan | there a few places that link to but don't use the elinksquest template left but that is it |
| 15:18.23 | Kitan | nod |
| 15:18.28 | Kitan | it was only 380ish pages |
| 15:18.31 | Adys | y |
| 15:18.39 | Adys | #REDIRECT {{Elinks-quest}} |
| 15:18.44 | Adys | will be fine |
| 15:18.48 | Kitan | it is already set to that I think |
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| 15:19.29 | Adys | yeah it has kitan |
| 15:19.34 | dotted | gief voice!!11 onoololol' |
| 15:19.47 | Adys | <kick> |
| 15:19.57 | dotted | you dare not!!! |
| 15:20.07 | Adys | you bet i do |
| 15:20.08 | Adys | afk a bit :) |
| 15:20.41 | dotted | !!! |
| 15:22.00 | Adys | ah kitan |
| 15:22.16 | Adys | i know its already in the works |
| 15:22.37 | Adys | but if you could do the deprecation of ab mark/av mark/wsg mark for cost |
| 15:22.39 | Adys | it'd be great |
| 15:22.42 | Adys | Deprecate {{AB Mark}} / {{AV Mark}} / {{WSG Mark}} for {{Cost}} (Watchoutbot is working on this) |
| 15:23.02 | Adys | if you're bored ^^ |
| 15:23.12 | Adys | anyways afk =) |
| 15:24.32 | Kitan | um |
| 15:24.39 | Kitan | but Watchoutbot is working on that! :) |
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| 15:38.51 | ClydeJr | stupid wiki question: what's the difference between <br> and <br />? |
| 15:40.03 | Hobinheim|work | adys, where did those words come from, in that language words file? |
| 15:40.59 | Adys | LanguageWords.dbc |
| 15:41.36 | Adys | ClydeJr: xhtml standards |
| 15:41.37 | Adys | <br/> is actually the one to use |
| 15:44.08 | ClydeJr | ok, been using <br /> since that's what I've been seeing in most of the boilerplates/templates, but was just curious on the difference. |
| 15:44.18 | Adys | y |
| 15:44.46 | Adys | well the thing is every markup that is opened should be closed, if you want to follow the standards |
| 15:45.09 | Hobinheim|work | there's no functional difference |
| 15:45.09 | Adys | and since <br> has no closing markup (nfc how its called in english) its <br/> |
| 15:45.16 | Hobinheim|work | it's just difference ways of expressing the same concept |
| 15:45.30 | Hobinheim|work | one is a formality and highly recommended, the other is a more lax, blah version, old way |
| 15:45.33 | ClydeJr | so <br /> is like <br> and </br> combined? |
| 15:45.35 | Hobinheim|work | so we actively recommend the new way |
| 15:45.36 | Hobinheim|work | yes |
| 15:45.43 | Adys | yy |
| 15:45.51 | ClydeJr | thanks for the clarification |
| 15:46.18 | Kitan | it is from the xhtml standard... and from xml |
| 15:46.34 | Kitan | my bot uses an xml dump to let me know what happened on each page up date |
| 15:46.36 | Kitan | update |
| 15:46.40 | Kitan | if i want to look at them all |
| 15:46.44 | Hobinheim|work | ugh so complicated |
| 15:46.46 | equiraptor | For my dumb question: Is there a difference between <br/> and <br /> ? |
| 15:46.50 | Hobinheim|work | be like my bot and just go CRAZY! |
| 15:46.57 | Hobinheim|work | equiraptor, no |
| 15:47.00 | Hobinheim|work | the space is optional |
| 15:47.06 | equiraptor | Great, thanks. |
| 15:47.07 | Kitan | <br>'s are killing me.. I had to change them too < and >s |
| 15:47.19 | Hobinheim|work | some people recommend <br /> for really retarded parsers, but <br/> is just fine nowadays |
| 15:47.19 | Adys | the space is made for "old browsers" |
| 15:47.29 | Adys | y |
| 15:47.33 | equiraptor | heh |
| 15:47.38 | foxlit | "Common pitfalls in the fight are the Nethermancer's Conflagarate" :( |
| 15:47.39 | Kitan | and or "retarded" according to Hob ;) |
| 15:47.47 | foxlit | Dragon's Breath, ffs. |
| 15:49.10 | Kitan | also Adys, wouldn't it be rude if I did the {{WSG Mark}} to {{Cost}} since Watchout is on it? |
| 15:49.18 | Adys | dont worry about it |
| 15:49.29 | Adys | watchout is actually gone inactive again afaik |
| 15:49.47 | Kitan | don't worry about being rude? :-P |
| 15:49.53 | Adys | mm :P |
| 15:50.03 | Adys | you'll be fine :) |
| 15:54.30 | Adys | wow nice website |
| 15:54.31 | Adys | http://www.warcraftpets.com/ |
| 15:55.52 | Kitan|Work | I love the pets |
| 15:55.54 | Kitan|Work | :) |
| 15:57.35 | Hobinheim|work | lol nice site |
| 15:57.40 | Hobinheim|work | orc's best friend is worg |
| 15:57.45 | Hobinheim|work | dwarf's best friend is beer |
| 15:57.46 | Hobinheim|work | =( |
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| 16:08.26 | Hobinheim|work | oh jeez we have a problem |
| 16:08.30 | Hobinheim|work | i haven't seen that message in a long time |
| 16:09.07 | Hobinheim|work | please tell me we aren't using exists |
| 16:09.07 | Hobinheim|work | or someone is editing tooltip |
| 16:10.59 | Adys | aight |
| 16:11.06 | Adys | no its me |
| 16:11.09 | Adys | im editing elink |
| 16:11.21 | Adys | I need a couple of things |
| 16:11.29 | Adys | an icon, 22x22, under png format for: |
| 16:11.33 | Adys | wow US |
| 16:11.35 | Adys | WoW EU |
| 16:11.39 | Adys | Blizzard.com |
| 16:11.43 | Adys | 'tsall |
| 16:11.49 | Gryphen | type more, enter less |
| 16:11.51 | Gryphen | :p |
| 16:11.54 | Gryphen | ;) |
| 16:11.56 | Gryphen | :) |
| 16:12.04 | Adys | gryphen |
| 16:12.05 | Adys | i |
| 16:12.06 | Adys | hate |
| 16:12.07 | Adys | you |
| 16:12.12 | Kitan|Work | Adys... you told me not to use Elink for the elinksquest because elink was goign away? |
| 16:12.17 | Gryphen | aww, but i love your Adys :( |
| 16:12.20 | Gryphen | -r |
| 16:12.24 | Adys | :) so do i |
| 16:12.26 | Kitan|Work | I love my Adys too |
| 16:12.44 | Adys | Kitan|Work: don't use {{elinks}}, but {{elink}}!={{elinks}} |
| 16:12.57 | Kitan|Work | ok |
| 16:13.19 | Kitan|Work | it used == External links == {{elink-quest}} per our discussion |
| 16:13.36 | Kitan|Work | and i will start on the marks -> {{Cost}} thing in a day or so |
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| 16:15.14 | DuTempete | Anybody around to answer a template question? |
| 16:15.53 | Kitan|Work | A few of them |
| 16:16.00 | Kitan|Work | they all got quiet all of a sudden. :) |
| 16:16.04 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 16:16.30 | Hobinheim|work | just ask it |
| 16:16.32 | Hobinheim|work | jeez... |
| 16:16.37 | DuTempete | Well I'm trying to put together this table template |
| 16:16.45 | DuTempete | jeez... I'm getting to it =P |
| 16:17.22 | DuTempete | Anyway... I'm trying to figure out how to write the template so that a cell's default value make the cell hidden |
| 16:17.58 | DuTempete | The questbox is a great example of hidden rows... but I can't seem to find the original coding for it |
| 16:24.01 | DuTempete | specifically, it would be a spell ranks table, probably 3 different templates: 1 for the header, 1 for the first row color, 1 for the second row color |
| 16:24.36 | DuTempete | it would have a selection of column values, for all the different spell information possible |
| 16:31.34 | Hobinheim|work | uhh |
| 16:31.39 | Hobinheim|work | use the if template |
| 16:32.00 | Hobinheim|work | that's how questbox does it, just look at the source |
| 16:35.29 | Gryphen | no wowhead vote lol, hello bias, how are you |
| 16:37.05 | Adys | you can set one up gryph :) |
| 16:37.34 | Adys | And if all 4 are voted for remove, we will set a new vote for the only one to stay |
| 16:38.16 | ClydeJr | I'm not going to vote for any of the current ones (no strong feeling about keeping or removing any of them) but I would definitely vote to keep wowhead |
| 16:38.37 | Adys | it seems to be the general opinion y |
| 16:38.43 | Adys | so i didnt bother setting a wowhead vote up |
| 16:38.46 | Adys | feel free to do so |
| 16:38.57 | DuTempete | sorry about the afk, Hobinheim... puppy was demanding my attention =P I can't find the source of the questbox... the if template is in the |
| 16:39.09 | ClydeJr | Might be a good idea in general fairness to set one up |
| 16:39.13 | DuTempete | the if template is in the general template category? |
| 16:39.19 | Gryphen | i know the results too, but seems quite lame to me |
| 16:39.23 | Gryphen | obviously |
| 16:39.46 | Hobinheim|work | how can you not see how questbox works? |
| 16:39.51 | Hobinheim|work | isn't there a view source tab? |
| 16:39.55 | Gryphen | there is a clear petition to deny the non-wiki popularity of the current elinks |
| 16:40.11 | Adys | Gryphen, check WW:EL please |
| 16:40.32 | Adys | its the policy we're trying to implement, and i want to be stricter on what we are going to allow in the elinks templates |
| 16:40.32 | Gryphen | ya.. |
| 16:40.47 | Adys | the guys from ampwow pissed me off |
| 16:41.12 | Adys | they came up on irc and said yaddi yadda we're modifying it so yes they were welcome |
| 16:41.21 | Adys | but as you said theres more popular websites not in the elinks |
| 16:41.39 | Gryphen | more popular than wowhead too not in elinks |
| 16:41.47 | Adys | Next websites are going to have to pass up a vote if they want to be in the elinks |
| 16:42.09 | Adys | thats why im making thott alla and ampwow pass one atm |
| 16:42.21 | Adys | As i said yesterday on irc, personally im not starting the wowhead vote |
| 16:42.26 | Adys | if anyone wants to do so, do so! |
| 16:42.57 | Adys | as for databases more popular than wowhead, afaik theres only zam and thott |
| 16:43.34 | DuTempete | No, Hobin, no view source tab on either www.wowwiki.com/Template:Questbox, or it's code subpage |
| 16:44.36 | Adys | dutempete http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Questbox&action=edit |
| 16:45.42 | DuTempete | ack, I didn't scroll all the way down. :( *slaps self* |
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| 16:47.03 | DuTempete | Oy, that's scary looking, that's gonna take me more time to sort out than I thought it would. =P |
| 16:47.09 | DuTempete | Thanks Adys |
| 16:47.15 | Adys | np |
| 16:48.06 | Hobinheim|work | DuTempete, it's not so hard |
| 16:48.12 | Hobinheim|work | just look at how the if block is used |
| 16:48.13 | Adys | ClydeJr: Quest Starting Items are already Quest Items |
| 16:48.29 | Hobinheim|work | and pay atten to what table code is being kept and used |
| 16:48.44 | Hobinheim|work | also, table brackets inside of if statements turn into {{!}} |
| 16:48.45 | DuTempete | No, it wont be that hard, it'll just give me a headache trying to analyze it. |
| 16:49.08 | Hobinheim|work | i don't understand how you didn't find the view source link |
| 16:49.11 | Hobinheim|work | isn't it at the top of every page? |
| 16:49.39 | Hobinheim|work | or edit |
| 16:49.39 | Hobinheim|work | w/e |
| 16:49.43 | Hobinheim|work | questbox isn't protected =( |
| 16:49.47 | DuTempete | well on the page I linked, it's actually "edit this page" and I was expecting the source code to be at the top of the page, so I didn't scroll all the way down to where it was. =P |
| 16:50.03 | Hobinheim|work | down? |
| 16:50.10 | DuTempete | yeah, it's a long page |
| 16:50.14 | ClydeJr | Ahh, didn't realize that, thanks for pointing it out |
| 16:50.20 | Hobinheim|work | but the tabs are at the top of every page |
| 16:50.30 | Hobinheim|work | are we not looking at the same thing? |
| 16:50.32 | DuTempete | no, I mean on the source page |
| 16:50.46 | Hobinheim|work | oh... |
| 16:50.50 | DuTempete | the actual template code is waaaay down at the botom |
| 16:50.56 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 16:51.02 | Hobinheim|work | DUTEMPLATE!!!!!! |
| 16:51.18 | Adys | lol.. |
| 16:51.19 | DuTempete | lol |
| 16:51.46 | Adys | whats the use of http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:%21%21? |
| 16:51.50 | Adys | when we have http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:%21 |
| 16:52.24 | DuTempete | shorter code, probably |
| 16:52.38 | DuTempete | I'd rather type {{!!}}, than {{!}}{{!}} |
| 16:52.55 | Adys | it looks like boobs |
| 16:52.58 | DuTempete | lol |
| 16:53.03 | DuTempete | strange boobs |
| 16:53.10 | Adys | spikey ones |
| 16:53.18 | DuTempete | it's really cold |
| 16:55.17 | DuTempete | okies, I've got to run, but I'm sure I'll be around later in case I need more help with this template |
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| 16:57.43 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
| 16:57.57 | Adys | heya skosiris |
| 16:59.16 | Skosiris | Hey! |
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| 17:03.31 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 17:03.45 | Kirkburn | Oogaboogabooga! |
| 17:03.56 | Adys | heya kirk :) |
| 17:04.03 | Adys | go vote! |
| 17:04.38 | Kirkburn | On what!? I've only just got online since friday? |
| 17:04.45 | Adys | http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d |
| 17:04.47 | Kirkburn | Didn't anyone read the note on my talk page? :P |
| 17:04.49 | Adys | External links |
| 17:04.51 | Adys | I did ! |
| 17:05.31 | Adys | and check out WW:EL changes |
| 17:06.31 | Kirkburn | I'll take a look later |
| 17:06.38 | Kirkburn | Anything else much happened? |
| 17:06.52 | Adys | not really, mainly these external links votes |
| 17:08.10 | Kirkburn | So how was everyone's Easter? |
| 17:08.43 | Adys | hehe |
| 17:08.45 | Adys | well |
| 17:08.47 | Adys | full of eggs |
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| 17:14.48 | Kirkburn | I went to Wales :) |
| 17:15.11 | Kirkburn | To orienteer, specifically. Not many eggs though :( |
| 17:19.10 | Adys | nice ^^ |
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| 17:36.47 | dotted | Skosiris i give up :( |
| 17:39.57 | Skosiris | it's all right, I'll just stick to good ol' tables :) |
| 17:54.38 | Bagginsww | adys could I have a link to that word list again? |
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| 17:54.55 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languagewords.txt iirc |
| 17:55.03 | Bagginsww | lty |
| 17:55.08 | Bagginsww | *ty |
| 17:55.44 | dotted | whats that for? *curious mode on* |
| 17:56.07 | Bagginsww | I'm making tables for each language page |
| 17:56.17 | Bagginsww | that lists all available words in parsers |
| 17:56.29 | Bagginsww | so that people can compare the differences |
| 17:56.41 | Bagginsww | or see which words are shared across languages :p |
| 17:56.56 | Bagginsww | Titan, Demonic, Draenei, Draconic all seem to share many of the same words |
| 17:57.07 | Bagginsww | although there are minor differences |
| 17:57.21 | dotted | ah |
| 17:57.53 | Bagginsww | it basically is more proof that in game parsers don't represent actual languages :p |
| 17:58.10 | Bagginsww | just random words to look like another language |
| 17:58.18 | Bagginsww | bah who killed wowwiki LOL |
| 18:00.28 | Kirkburn | You, I bet |
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| 18:01.33 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, make sure it doesn't appear like a inter-faction translation aid, though I'm sure it won't |
| 18:01.42 | Bagginsww | uh it won't work |
| 18:01.53 | Bagginsww | each language is tied to its own |
| 18:01.55 | Bagginsww | number |
| 18:02.04 | Bagginsww | there is no way to translate between factions :p |
| 18:02.40 | Bagginsww | basically these words are randomly generated to mask anything we type |
| 18:02.48 | Bagginsww | there is no direct translations |
| 18:03.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Eredun#Words_in_.22Demonic.22_.28Eredun.29 |
| 18:03.37 | Kirkburn | woot :P |
| 18:03.55 | sancus | isnt that pretty much super mold news? |
| 18:04.03 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 18:04.14 | sancus | Y OU L O S E |
| 18:04.17 | Bagginsww | only tihng I'm adding is the word lists |
| 18:04.39 | Bagginsww | so people can compare |
| 18:06.02 | sancus | you can pretty much say the only important things |
| 18:06.04 | sancus | (insults) |
| 18:06.48 | sancus | which is funny, because I'm pretty sure the poorly-conceived language separation exists to prevent that ;p |
| 18:06.56 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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| 18:07.48 | sancus | I've heard it claimed before, I can't remember if a Blizzard person actually said it, that it's intended to increase the friction between factions |
| 18:07.58 | sancus | But that's such a ridiculous notion I can't imagine why anyone would believe it |
| 18:08.31 | Bagginsww | LOL it was actually created to stop friction |
| 18:08.41 | Bagginsww | people were cursing each other out |
| 18:08.58 | Bagginsww | back when they could communicate |
| 18:09.01 | sancus | which, of course, you still can |
| 18:09.08 | Bagginsww | not directly |
| 18:09.15 | sancus | sure directly |
| 18:09.19 | Bagginsww | not like you tell people, to Fuck off |
| 18:09.23 | sancus | You can say all sorts of nasty things through the language filter |
| 18:09.28 | sancus | You can't use whispers, no, you can use says and yells though |
| 18:10.09 | sancus | I think you can actually say fuck off, I'm not an expert on flaming people through the filter though |
| 18:10.47 | sancus | in beta I rarely experienced people cussing eachother out though, and I was undead before they ruined it |
| 18:11.05 | sancus | although why you would want to stop that still confuses me |
| 18:11.16 | sancus | There's more reason to cuss out people on your own faction, tbh :P |
| 18:11.33 | sancus | At least you can kill the idiots on the other one |
| 18:12.03 | Bagginsww | I think it was later that they wanted to stop people from helping each other out cause it screwed up PVP, and imbalanced quests :p |
| 18:12.31 | Bagginsww | I mean cross-faction quest completion |
| 18:12.31 | sancus | it made pvp slightly more interesting |
| 18:12.42 | Bagginsww | granted I've still helped people out |
| 18:12.55 | sancus | I don't think it impedes that |
| 18:12.55 | Bagginsww | I help lowbies |
| 18:13.04 | Bagginsww | I hate ganking |
| 18:13.08 | sancus | I think the main reason for it is the main reason Blizzard does most things related to player behaviour |
| 18:13.25 | sancus | which is that it was generating CS petitions they didn't want to pay for |
| 18:13.43 | equiraptor | heh |
| 18:14.15 | sancus | probably their entire rule system is based on minimizing petitions because CS is expensive |
| 18:14.33 | ClydeJr | when I played Planetside, the amount of tells you got from players on the other side when you killed them or they killed you was obnoxious. I'm glad the sides can't talk in WoW |
| 18:15.18 | sancus | It's just another example of the mindset of why I don't play WoW, I don't want the developers to protect me from bad people, the entire reason I PLAY mmogs is because bad people are fun. |
| 18:15.55 | Bagginsww | granted I think it would be kind of cool if RPers could do huge number of quests that could change your faction |
| 18:16.07 | Bagginsww | in other words you could be a traitor to the alliance |
| 18:16.11 | Bagginsww | or vice versa |
| 18:16.17 | sancus | that would be bad |
| 18:16.21 | sancus | There's no social depth to WoW for a reason |
| 18:17.00 | Bagginsww | well they originally wanted some kind of way to become traitor to your own kind in early types of PVP but it never worked out |
| 18:17.14 | Bagginsww | granted that system would never work now |
| 18:17.29 | Bagginsww | I prefer the honorless system now |
| 18:17.40 | sancus | social depth is hard, and requires a certain attitude that the game is not only about fun |
| 18:17.59 | Bagginsww | Its awesome in single player games though heh heh |
| 18:18.09 | sancus | It's rare in North American mmogs |
| 18:18.18 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 18:18.27 | sancus | yet common in asian ones |
| 18:18.32 | Bagginsww | interesting |
| 18:18.39 | sancus | It would be an interesting psychological study on why we dislike social depth in our games |
| 18:18.42 | Bagginsww | it was a huge part in pen and paper |
| 18:18.49 | sancus | online ones, anyway |
| 18:18.55 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 18:19.08 | sancus | it is, P&P is a very small market though |
| 18:19.22 | Bagginsww | but I think it would be cool if you could go through the rpg paradigms of allightment |
| 18:19.33 | Bagginsww | *allignment |
| 18:19.46 | Bagginsww | do bad things, turn evil |
| 18:19.59 | Bagginsww | go through a stage of neutrality of course before you get there |
| 18:20.10 | Bagginsww | but ultimatemly go in that direction |
| 18:20.27 | Bagginsww | but if you remain almost just style of evil, you can be "lawful evil" |
| 18:21.15 | sancus | You don't really need alignment, all you really need is the capability to hold something of value, the capability for someone else to take it away, communication, and you'll have as much "evil" as you could possibly want |
| 18:22.44 | Bagginsww | well, I mean somehting along hte lines if you do stuff for the Burning Leigon you could ultimately side with them |
| 18:23.04 | Bagginsww | but you'd have a huge chunk of Holy Light turning on you |
| 18:23.34 | foxlit | escapist had a cute article on alignment systems in modern rpgs |
| 18:23.47 | Bagginsww | so you'd have certain alliance towns that wouldn't let you near them |
| 18:24.15 | Bagginsww | possibly have certain alliance players be able to flag pvp on your butt, :) |
| 18:24.28 | Bagginsww | or vice versa if your horde |
| 18:24.54 | Bagginsww | WoW is too simplistic to allow for something like that though |
| 18:25.20 | Bagginsww | although its possible to change allignment with independent factions |
| 18:33.18 | Kitan|Work | back |
| 18:41.37 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Eredun#Words_in_.22Demonic.22_.28Eredun.29 |
| 18:41.39 | Bagginsww | finished |
| 18:43.26 | Kitan|Work | Adys | you around? |
| 18:43.28 | Bagginsww | so Adys, Draconic is called Draconix in the text file? |
| 18:43.38 | Adys | dingdingdingdingdingding |
| 18:43.45 | Adys | whats with the sudden sexual attrayances? |
| 18:43.56 | Adys | kitan, i am |
| 18:43.59 | Adys | baggins, i dont think so? |
| 18:44.10 | Bagginsww | oh you must have mispelled then |
| 18:44.11 | Tekkub | big word! |
| 18:44.13 | Adys | y prob |
| 18:44.15 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.23 | Bagginsww | Adys> LanguageWords.dbc.. let me see |
| 18:44.24 | Bagginsww | <Adys> Demonic is 8, titan is 9, draconix 11, kalimag 12, draenei 35 |
| 18:44.30 | Adys | Draconic aye |
| 18:44.41 | Adys | x is next to the c on azerty |
| 18:44.43 | Kitan|Work | Wouldn't {{WSG Mark}} etc be in a lot of the tool tips? I assume I would only change them if they weren't in Tooltipcss? |
| 18:44.47 | Bagginsww | oh LOL |
| 18:44.47 | Adys | tho i believe its same on qwerty |
| 18:45.01 | Bagginsww | indeed |
| 18:45.03 | Adys | no kitan, its only used in the == Source == sections i believe |
| 18:45.33 | Bagginsww | its called Dwarvish in the file? |
| 18:45.42 | Adys | y |
| 18:45.43 | Bagginsww | but Dwarven in game :( |
| 18:45.48 | Adys | uhm no? |
| 18:45.49 | Bagginsww | *hmm I mean |
| 18:45.54 | Bagginsww | *:p |
| 18:46.27 | Adys | let me check |
| 18:46.45 | Bagginsww | so no ingame goblin text eh? shame :p |
| 18:47.41 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages.txt |
| 18:47.59 | Bagginsww | LOL so it does call it Dwarvish |
| 18:48.07 | Kitan|Work | stools? |
| 18:48.08 | Adys | afaik its the ingame use |
| 18:48.09 | Kitan|Work | seriously? |
| 18:48.10 | Kitan|Work | stools |
| 18:48.13 | Adys | my provider kitan.. |
| 18:48.21 | Bagginsww | adys its Dwarven in game :) |
| 18:48.25 | Bagginsww | at least in NA version |
| 18:48.31 | Adys | I need to check that |
| 18:49.02 | Adys | ill check, asking guild |
| 18:49.15 | Bagginsww | logging into my dwarf |
| 18:49.32 | Bagginsww | Dwarven |
| 18:49.57 | Bagginsww | in anycase I'm definitley going to make note of Dwarvish once I get around to updating the files |
| 18:50.04 | Bagginsww | erm updating the Dwarven article |
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| 18:51.40 | Adys | dwarvish in game |
| 18:51.42 | Adys | confirmed |
| 18:52.26 | Adys | i had some troubles making the guy understand what i wanted |
| 18:52.32 | Adys | he's danish, so he started talking danish |
| 18:56.08 | Bagginsww | so there are differences in versions |
| 18:56.08 | Bagginsww | its dwarven in game to me |
| 18:56.15 | Bagginsww | I can get you a screenshot if you like :) |
| 18:56.40 | Bagginsww | although this would be interesting to mention in the articles heh |
| 18:57.18 | Kitan|Work | which versions ar eyou playing? |
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| 18:57.59 | Bagginsww | North american |
| 18:58.18 | Bagginsww | I went to my Dwarf's skill list |
| 18:58.33 | Bagginsww | "It lists under language section, Common 300/300 |
| 18:58.37 | Bagginsww | and Dwarven 300/300 |
| 18:58.50 | Adys | try and speak it? |
| 18:58.56 | Bagginsww | good point |
| 18:58.56 | Adys | it shows [Dwarvish] blah |
| 18:59.01 | Bagginsww | maybe uses both terms |
| 18:59.10 | Bagginsww | what's the command? |
| 18:59.16 | Adys | .. nooo idea |
| 18:59.25 | Bagginsww | I like never use alternate languages LOL |
| 18:59.36 | Adys | Ive been human for years :P |
| 18:59.51 | Bagginsww | heh heh, gnome for me |
| 19:02.32 | Bagginsww | absolutely no idea how to switch to alternate language :p |
| 19:03.41 | Adys | its somewhere in the chat options iirc |
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| 19:05.38 | dotted | if you use default UI there is a button at the General chat frame, its a bubble iirc. there is an option for alternate language |
| 19:06.47 | Bagginsww | found it |
| 19:07.06 | Bagginsww | yep so its called Dwarvish and Dwarven in game |
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| 19:13.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dwarven |
| 19:13.18 | Bagginsww | updated |
| 19:16.37 | Kitan|Work | does anyone know why occasionally when I click on a link I get the main page and it says I am logged out and the font is all horked? |
| 19:17.24 | equiraptor | Off the top of my head, could it be a cache and/or proxy issue? |
| 19:17.54 | ClydeJr | I think that usually happens when people are messing with popular templates |
| 19:18.21 | Kitan|Work | ooh... let me go modify bot to randomly modify popular templates by a single character over and over. ;) |
| 19:23.06 | Kitan|Work | not even kind of funny? |
| 19:23.09 | Kitan|Work | you guys suck. :) |
| 19:25.15 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 19:27.44 | Bagginsww | contemplates creating an article about Gremlins... |
| 19:28.07 | Bagginsww | how they cause Wowwiki not to work |
| 19:29.42 | Kitan|Work | so {{WSG Mark}} says it links an image but it really doesn't? |
| 19:29.58 | Kitan|Work | unless the image is screwing up on my screen or something |
| 19:36.53 | Kitan|Work | anyone? |
| 19:37.17 | Kirkburn | Bwoop |
| 19:37.32 | Kirkburn | Uh, the image probably got deleted again? |
| 19:37.34 | Kitan|Work | Kirk, do you know? |
| 19:37.56 | Kirkburn | Cause of the way those templates were made, with imagelink, they didn't show as used |
| 19:37.58 | Kitan|Work | Adys asked me to just do that bot request next as he thought Watchout was inactive |
| 19:38.03 | Kirkburn | So they got cleared out |
| 19:38.11 | Kirkburn | The normal version should exist without the _15 bit |
| 19:38.24 | Kitan|Work | hrm ok |
| 19:38.32 | Kirkburn | This is from memory, I think that's how it works? |
| 19:38.40 | Kitan|Work | well that makes sense then... was looking at the pages to try to come up with an algorithm |
| 19:38.47 | Kitan|Work | well it definately is just an image template |
| 19:38.51 | Kitan|Work | all the marks are |
| 19:38.52 | Kirkburn | Imagelink ftl :P |
| 19:38.58 | Bagginsww | fascinating, Ignan, is not only in the RPG, but shows up as a random word in Kalimag file |
| 19:39.02 | Kitan|Work | and on the few pages, 5ish, I looked |
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| 19:39.14 | Kitan|Work | there was no image |
| 19:39.19 | Bagginsww | although probably a tie to Latin |
| 19:39.44 | Kirkburn | In random news, I'm going to be busy still until about wednesday - I'm currently entertaining a guy from the Czech republic, which, not coincidentally, is what I am 1/16th |
| 19:40.01 | DuTempete | ooooh 1/16... |
| 19:40.21 | DuTempete | I usually just ignore those |
| 19:40.21 | Kirkburn | My surname is Pribul, his if Pribyl, but we aren't sure if we're related |
| 19:40.24 | Kirkburn | *is |
| 19:40.27 | DuTempete | neat |
| 19:40.53 | DuTempete | well I ignore the small ones, unless I'm bragging about my l33t drinking skills |
| 19:40.56 | Kirkburn | My dad has been researching a lot, we found this guy via an orienteering event :) |
| 19:41.10 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, lol |
| 19:41.12 | DuTempete | in which case they are rather valid: german, irish, scottish |
| 19:41.29 | DuTempete | and I'm mostly cuban italian |
| 19:41.32 | Kirkburn | Good way of ingratiating yourself in Irish bars |
| 19:41.38 | DuTempete | damn skippy |
| 19:41.50 | Kirkburn | the bush kangarooo? |
| 19:42.11 | Kirkburn | Next you'll be complaining about poor Lassie :( |
| 19:42.16 | DuTempete | lol I have no idea what you're talking about =P |
| 19:42.30 | Kirkburn | You've never heard of Skippy the Bush Kangaroo?!?! |
| 19:42.37 | DuTempete | that aussie for "mutt"? |
| 19:42.52 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 19:42.54 | Kirkburn | 'ere, this guy's a philistine, wot ;P |
| 19:43.01 | DuTempete | ooooh |
| 19:43.17 | Kirkburn | Skippeeee, skippeeee, skippy the bush kangaroooooo |
| 19:43.44 | DuTempete | definitely never heard of skippy the bush kangaroo... I have heard of Captain Kangaroo |
| 19:44.04 | Kirkburn | I could have gone for the other choice and said you were complaining about the peanut butter brand, but then I wouldn't be able to involve our Oceanic friends |
| 19:44.20 | Kirkburn | ~poke Bleeter |
| 19:44.22 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Bleeter, pokes Bleeter repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:44.22 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 19:44.32 | DuTempete | lol |
| 19:44.35 | Mikk | Adys: I'll see if I can't get those icons done |
| 19:44.42 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 19:45.05 | DuTempete | Hey, I need a hand filling in the blank spots in my memory |
| 19:45.12 | DuTempete | (there are lots of them) |
| 19:45.18 | Kirkburn | Noooooo, Miiiikk! |
| 19:45.30 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, all that drinking, eh, even the small ones |
| 19:45.35 | DuTempete | I'm trying to think of all the categories of spell effects. What I have so far: |
| 19:45.46 | DuTempete | Debuff, Heal, Buff, DD, DoT, Duration |
| 19:45.53 | DuTempete | am I missing any? |
| 19:45.54 | Kirkburn | You forgot "Burny stuff" |
| 19:46.03 | DuTempete | mmm... burny stuff |
| 19:46.15 | Kirkburn | This including stuff like AoE? |
| 19:46.18 | Bagginsww | gg... wowwiki crashed again... while I was trying to edit something |
| 19:46.30 | DuTempete | I'm trying to think up all the different possible column headers for a spell ranks table |
| 19:46.33 | DuTempete | ooh forgot AoE |
| 19:46.39 | Bagginsww | I blaim it on everyone's bots, :) |
| 19:46.45 | Kirkburn | If you're doing a bit edit try to remember to copy all the text before submitting |
| 19:46.48 | Kirkburn | *big |
| 19:46.58 | Kirkburn | There's more than one type of AoE |
| 19:47.11 | Kirkburn | I think they're mentioned on the AoE article |
| 19:47.15 | Kirkburn | One is targeted, one isn't |
| 19:47.19 | DuTempete | right, would just have possible values of PBAoE or TAoE |
| 19:47.38 | Kirkburn | Are all AoEs channelled? |
| 19:47.42 | DuTempete | yes |
| 19:47.48 | Kirkburn | Booring :( |
| 19:48.02 | DuTempete | well I think the Hunter AoE is instant... |
| 19:48.08 | DuTempete | just one wave |
| 19:48.12 | Kirkburn | Oh trap stuff? |
| 19:48.20 | DuTempete | actually, I can think of more than one, now, that's instant |
| 19:48.24 | sancus | what |
| 19:48.30 | DuTempete | one of the lock talents in an instnat, too |
| 19:48.36 | Kirkburn | Yo sancus |
| 19:48.36 | DuTempete | but that would go under cast time |
| 19:48.37 | sancus | there are two mage aoes that are not channeled lol |
| 19:48.45 | sancus | three, really |
| 19:48.50 | sancus | non-talent |
| 19:48.54 | DuTempete | yeah, I realized I was wrong ;) |
| 19:49.05 | DuTempete | they're instnat, though, yes? |
| 19:49.09 | DuTempete | like frost nova |
| 19:49.11 | sancus | no |
| 19:49.15 | sancus | Flame Strike is just normally cast |
| 19:49.21 | sancus | most of them are instant, though, yeah |
| 19:49.35 | DuTempete | oh, I'm confusing myself, and everyone else... I mean, one wave |
| 19:49.52 | sancus | Flame Strike is a wave of damage and then a dot effect on the ground |
| 19:49.59 | DuTempete | so it should probably get it's own special category: channeled or DD |
| 19:50.07 | DuTempete | ooh |
| 19:50.18 | DuTempete | wow, this is getting interesting |
| 19:50.31 | sancus | Consecration is a wave of damage and then a dot effect that stays on the targets that were hit, I THINK |
| 19:50.34 | sancus | though it might be on the ground, not sure |
| 19:51.07 | DuTempete | I doubt it would be ground, since it's a PBAoE |
| 19:51.27 | Kirkburn | PB = ? |
| 19:51.33 | DuTempete | but consecration is something you typically do to an area |
| 19:51.37 | DuTempete | point blank |
| 19:51.39 | DuTempete | no target |
| 19:51.44 | Kirkburn | Oh of course |
| 19:51.48 | DuTempete | TAoE is targetted, meaning you have to select a target area |
| 19:51.52 | sancus | actually I think consecration is on the ground |
| 19:51.56 | Kirkburn | What about player targeted? |
| 19:52.06 | Kirkburn | Like a "thrown" PB |
| 19:52.12 | DuTempete | can't think of any target targeted AoEs |
| 19:52.13 | sancus | there's also the half-cast warlock targeted DD thing |
| 19:52.24 | DuTempete | What do you mean, sancus? |
| 19:52.34 | sancus | the 41pt destruction talent |
| 19:52.44 | sancus | it has a 0.5 second cast time but it has a 0.5s global cooldown as well, specially |
| 19:52.54 | sancus | So it effectively has no gcd |
| 19:52.57 | DuTempete | not sure what you're talking about... lemme go look it up, I would've had it at some point |
| 19:53.03 | DuTempete | <-- warlock |
| 19:53.09 | sancus | the ranged stun aoe :P |
| 19:53.13 | sancus | I dont remember the name |
| 19:54.38 | DuTempete | Oh, Shadowfury... it's TAoE, one wave DD and stun |
| 19:54.45 | sancus | yes |
| 19:54.51 | Bagginsww | hmm adys I wonder where they keep the Furbolg list |
| 19:54.57 | sancus | But it's not instant, and not a normal casting time spell either |
| 19:55.01 | DuTempete | just like any other TAoE, cept it has a short casting time |
| 19:55.16 | DuTempete | right, I didn't mean instant as in cast time, I meant it as in DD, one wave |
| 19:55.21 | sancus | ah ok |
| 19:55.22 | DuTempete | I was confused :) |
| 19:55.32 | sancus | I thought you were talking about casting times |
| 19:55.38 | Kirkburn | Adys, btw, don't you dare quit otherwise I'll come around your house and set Skippy on you. |
| 19:55.45 | sancus | It's technically a casting time spell but it's the only one that has a short gcd |
| 19:55.50 | DuTempete | Ack! Not Skippy! |
| 19:56.14 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo |
| 19:56.45 | DuTempete | the cooldown is still 20 secs |
| 19:57.02 | Adys | sec brb |
| 19:57.49 | sancus | Kirkburn: is mysqld crashing regularly now or something? |
| 19:57.55 | Kirkburn | Specifically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHY6n907OE |
| 19:58.06 | Kirkburn | sancus, no idea, I've been away for the weekend |
| 19:58.11 | sancus | o-k |
| 19:58.17 | Kirkburn | Sorry :) |
| 19:58.23 | sancus | I had thought everything was working happy since we switched to lighty |
| 19:58.24 | sancus | guess not |
| 19:58.26 | DuTempete | so... would a channeled AoE be classified as a DOT? or should I use a whole different category for it? Like Wave Damage? |
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| 19:59.24 | DuTempete | Holy crap... Skippy was the Australian Lassie? =P |
| 19:59.25 | sancus | It's not a DoT |
| 19:59.39 | sancus | DoTs tick automatically without intervention of the caster and can't be stopped |
| 19:59.41 | DuTempete | Right, I know that, I'm just trying to figure out how best to classify it |
| 19:59.43 | sancus | it's repeated direct damage |
| 19:59.48 | DuTempete | in a table |
| 19:59.54 | sancus | so yeah I would classify it separately |
| 20:00.03 | Tekkub | okey, maybe I'm an dink but.... |
| 20:00.04 | DuTempete | w/o having 3bajillian parameters |
| 20:00.06 | sancus | tbh you can classify based on the effect-types they use |
| 20:00.07 | sancus | in the database |
| 20:00.33 | Tekkub | shouldn't "Original Soundtrack - Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters" be "Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters Dash Original Soundtrack" ? |
| 20:00.38 | DuTempete | ah, dunno what those are, hehe |
| 20:01.04 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, far too many colons for my liking |
| 20:01.13 | Tekkub | only one colon |
| 20:01.15 | DuTempete | what's the point of having movie film for theaters? |
| 20:01.16 | Tekkub | and a dash |
| 20:01.28 | Tekkub | DuT, you don't get it :) |
| 20:01.39 | DuTempete | I don't get much =P |
| 20:01.46 | DuTempete | I'm still trying to figger out SKippy |
| 20:02.05 | Kirkburn | Didn't you watch the YouTube clip? :) |
| 20:02.12 | DuTempete | You meaning Alpha-wise? |
| 20:02.20 | DuTempete | Laptop doesn't have a soundcard :( |
| 20:02.21 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kalimag added the Kalimag list someone can put it into a template later :p |
| 20:02.32 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, isn't Movie Film rendundant? |
| 20:02.43 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 20:02.46 | Kirkburn | Personal PIN number ftw |
| 20:02.46 | Tekkub | screw you all |
| 20:02.50 | DuTempete | HAHA that's what I said!! |
| 20:02.55 | DuTempete | lmao |
| 20:03.06 | Tekkub | I'm going to go experiment more with draino and the clothes washer |
| 20:03.17 | Kirkburn | Stay away from the colons! |
| 20:03.21 | Tekkub | http://picasaweb.google.com/Tekkub/FunWithDraino |
| 20:03.22 | DuTempete | If you were trying to name it for alphabetization, I'd put the original soundtrack last |
| 20:03.34 | DuTempete | Name of the album first |
| 20:03.42 | Tekkub | I'm wearing that shirt right now :) |
| 20:03.48 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:03.53 | Kirkburn | That's sooooo 80s |
| 20:04.06 | Kirkburn | (and awesome) |
| 20:04.07 | Tekkub | it was accidental |
| 20:04.16 | Tekkub | and yea, the shirt fucking rocks now |
| 20:04.35 | Kirkburn | Is it just completely bleached? |
| 20:04.56 | Tekkub | well not completely or it'd be solid orangish |
| 20:04.58 | DuTempete | Draino's gonna eat the shirt, not bleach it |
| 20:05.12 | Tekkub | no, it bleached it |
| 20:05.18 | DuTempete | wild |
| 20:05.33 | Kirkburn | crazy |
| 20:05.37 | Tekkub | the tan khaki pants didn't fair so well |
| 20:05.41 | DuTempete | lol |
| 20:05.49 | Tekkub | it's a nice mix of puke tan and puke green |
| 20:06.03 | DuTempete | green? |
| 20:06.06 | Kirkburn | Mmm, tasty |
| 20:06.08 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:06.32 | DuTempete | from the black shirt, amybe? |
| 20:06.39 | Tekkub | who knows |
| 20:06.43 | Kirkburn | You reminded me of when I was in italy once - this guy was wearing white, yes, WHITE swim shorts |
| 20:06.47 | Tekkub | already threw that out |
| 20:06.51 | DuTempete | *shudder* |
| 20:07.07 | Tekkub | okey the elinks votes are funny.... |
| 20:07.09 | DuTempete | But, you're lucky they weren't white speedos |
| 20:07.13 | Tekkub | Head: all keep |
| 20:07.17 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, I know :/ |
| 20:07.20 | Tekkub | amp: all remove |
| 20:07.21 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 20:07.28 | Tekkub | thott: 50/50 |
| 20:07.40 | Kirkburn | Alla? |
| 20:07.40 | DuTempete | lotta people still actually use thott |
| 20:07.45 | DuTempete | and Alla's |
| 20:07.50 | Kirkburn | eww |
| 20:07.51 | Tekkub | alla: 70/30 |
| 20:07.57 | Kirkburn | To keep? |
| 20:08.01 | DuTempete | I have a hard time NOT using alla's just because of the nostalgia from EQ |
| 20:08.07 | Tekkub | so? more people want alla than thott :) |
| 20:08.13 | Tekkub | yea kirk |
| 20:08.18 | Kirkburn | But everyone wants Head :) |
| 20:08.19 | DuTempete | But both sites suck for following quest lines |
| 20:08.21 | Kirkburn | waiiiit |
| 20:08.26 | Tekkub | alla's 8 votes to 6 |
| 20:08.30 | Tekkub | thott's 6/6 |
| 20:08.31 | Bagginsww | I have ot use a combination of several sites because some are incomplete |
| 20:08.32 | DuTempete | www.wowhead.com ? is that the addy? |
| 20:08.38 | Tekkub | the others are unamimos |
| 20:08.42 | Tekkub | (snp?) |
| 20:08.46 | Tekkub | ((sp?)) |
| 20:08.47 | DuTempete | I know what you mean, Baggins |
| 20:08.52 | Kirkburn | I like Head. |
| 20:08.53 | DuTempete | Unanimous |
| 20:09.02 | Tekkub | I like head too |
| 20:09.09 | Kirkburn | zing! |
| 20:09.10 | winkiller | head used to suck |
| 20:09.14 | winkiller | haha! |
| 20:09.17 | DuTempete | I hadn't heard of head until I started using WW |
| 20:09.18 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:09.25 | winkiller | before they actually got some comments |
| 20:09.30 | winkiller | started like 3 months ago |
| 20:09.34 | Kirkburn | Once you've tried Head, you'll never go back |
| 20:09.46 | Tekkub | no kirk |
| 20:09.50 | DuTempete | God this sounds really dirty... |
| 20:09.51 | Kitan|Work | meh |
| 20:09.52 | Tekkub | "Once you've gotten head" |
| 20:09.54 | winkiller | hrhr |
| 20:09.56 | DuTempete | hehehehe |
| 20:09.56 | Kitan|Work | I have gone to wowhead |
| 20:09.57 | Kirkburn | Er, yeah |
| 20:10.01 | Kitan|Work | doesn't impress me that much |
| 20:10.22 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, do you like it black? |
| 20:10.37 | Tekkub | "I run faster too!" |
| 20:10.45 | DuTempete | What pisses me off about Alla's is they used to have an in game team making sure everything worked right, and the quests were all correct |
| 20:11.01 | DuTempete | now, I think they just rely on an addon to gather info, that barely anybody uses. |
| 20:11.08 | Tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4oP_ITqMc |
| 20:11.13 | DuTempete | and there's no QA team to double-check everything |
| 20:11.30 | Tekkub | there is no team, DarQ does most of it |
| 20:11.39 | Tekkub | at least the admin/cleanup |
| 20:11.46 | Tekkub | someone else does the client |
| 20:12.09 | DuTempete | I'm talking in EQ... there was a community effort in keeping the site accurate |
| 20:12.22 | Tekkub | alla's "community" blows :) |
| 20:12.25 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 20:12.45 | Tekkub | seriously, I was one of the guild founders for the alla WoW guild |
| 20:12.54 | DuTempete | awesome |
| 20:12.59 | DuTempete | What guild was that? |
| 20:12.59 | Tekkub | we had our own forums cause we hate alla's "Community" |
| 20:13.06 | DuTempete | lol |
| 20:13.07 | Tekkub | <Kharma Trolls> on Illidan |
| 20:13.37 | Tekkub | about all we were good for on alla's forum was nuking people's karma and making any topic go off topic on page one |
| 20:13.47 | DuTempete | I didn't really follow any of the crossover guilds when I started playing WoW |
| 20:13.56 | DuTempete | lol |
| 20:14.00 | Tekkub | we weren't exactly crossover |
| 20:14.16 | Tekkub | the founders were all FFXI refugees before open beta even started |
| 20:14.23 | DuTempete | eeeew FFXI |
| 20:14.30 | Tekkub | then they hit endgame and, surprize, imploded |
| 20:14.31 | DuTempete | I tried that for about 30 minutes |
| 20:14.46 | Tekkub | all the leaders left, they handed me GM and /gquit |
| 20:14.51 | DuTempete | Wheeeeee! |
| 20:14.59 | Tekkub | that's the worst thing you can do to someone |
| 20:15.07 | DuTempete | Oh, I know. |
| 20:15.24 | Tekkub | I never leveled past 35 there either, I dispised PvP |
| 20:15.33 | Tekkub | never went out into contested territory |
| 20:15.44 | DuTempete | Illidan is PvP? or are you talking about the general feel of the game? |
| 20:15.56 | Tekkub | it's PvP |
| 20:16.11 | DuTempete | Yeah, after I quit WoW the first time, my friends joined a pvp server |
| 20:16.16 | DuTempete | It can really suck ass at times |
| 20:16.19 | Tekkub | if it wasn't $25/ea I'd move my 30ish's off there |
| 20:16.23 | DuTempete | but I take it out on them |
| 20:16.28 | Tekkub | they should prorate transfers |
| 20:16.35 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 20:16.44 | Tekkub | with a min req of like lv 20 |
| 20:16.56 | Kirkburn | Skipinder the Punjabi Kangaroo :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU8xr5HxaAY |
| 20:17.04 | DuTempete | lol Kirk |
| 20:20.17 | Kirkburn | More: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW96Z9AJf38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUVPr3dB9O8 |
| 20:22.40 | Skosiris | Teomyr: The format of the tooltips in the xml feeds is now final. Please let me know when you start working on this, I will send you the CSS file you need so tooltips are displayed correctly |
| 20:23.07 | Teomyr | okay, thanks :) |
| 20:24.03 | Teomyr | i'm still thinking about what would be the best syntax to use to call the tooltips |
| 20:24.54 | Teomyr | the <tooltip ...>...</tooltip> syntax (parser extension) has a serious issue, namely you can't use templates within the tooltip's anchor or content |
| 20:25.20 | Teomyr | since they were never intended to be parsed. you'd need an ugly patch to mediawiki for that |
| 20:27.07 | DuTempete | ok, on the AoE categorizing... AoE type, cooldown, and cast time don't change per raink that I know of... can anyone think of a spell in which it does w/o talents? |
| 20:29.39 | DuTempete | So what I think is that I'll just have a parameter for wave/AoE dmg, to differentiate from DD and DoT dmg |
| 20:30.03 | DuTempete | since DD's are one shot, and DoTs are described with the total damage they deal... AoEs are described using the dmg per wave |
| 20:30.38 | DuTempete | Am I right about that? |
| 20:30.51 | Kirkburn | <kid standing in pouring rain having run outside to see Skipinder> "C'mon Skip, what did you want to show me?" ..... "It's raining! Hahahahaha!" <Skipinder runs off> |
| 20:31.27 | Teomyr | DuTempete: i think so |
| 20:31.56 | DuTempete | Dammit Kirk... you're going to make me install my IRC client on my desktop PC, aren't you... |
| 20:32.11 | Kirkburn | You need that to watch YouTube? |
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| 20:37.45 | DuTempete | Kirk... you should make a video where Lassie and Skippy duke it out. |
| 20:37.51 | Adys | infobot, good morning |
| 20:38.01 | infobot | Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 20:38.04 | Kirkburn | ~slap Kitan|Work |
| 20:38.20 | infobot | ACTION slaps Kitan|Work, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:38.23 | Teomyr | <-- needs a world clock widget or something |
| 20:45.14 | winkiller | I love Necrosis, you just have to change the summon messages |
| 20:45.45 | winkiller | like for fel: What do you get when you mix Lassie and a Gnome Mage? Kiiyum of course... |
| 20:46.07 | Teomyr | lol |
| 20:50.07 | Kirkburn | Skippy! |
| 20:54.13 | DuTempete | Hrmm... can a template parameter have more than one argument? |
| 20:54.15 | DuTempete | well, more than one value |
| 20:54.39 | DuTempete | to use the correct lingo |
| 20:55.10 | DuTempete | like {{{param1,param2,param3}}} ? |
| 20:55.50 | DuTempete | or |Param= 1,2,3? |
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| 20:58.50 | Kirkburn | These are absolutely awesome - http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070407/new-day-new-office-videos/ |
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| 21:25.57 | foxlit | Hm, rather than removing DB sites from elinks, should just use a single row of logos for every site that cares to use standard ids |
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| 21:33.15 | Kirkburn | foxlit, intriguing idea |
| 21:37.59 | Hobinheim|work | omg skippy should kick that kid |
| 21:58.37 | winkiller | oh yeah! |
| 21:58.41 | winkiller | Tunic of Assassination |
| 21:58.53 | winkiller | after 3 runs and 3 weeks of trying to get a grouop together |
| 22:00.38 | Kirkburn | gratz |
| 22:04.25 | Adys | http://tinyurl.com/2dwsct <3 |
| 22:10.12 | Kirkburn | 2.1.0 professions preview! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=93032551&postId=930146591&sid=1#0 |
| 22:10.19 | Kirkburn | The fishing changes are yay! |
| 22:10.41 | Kirkburn | Adys, nice work :P |
| 22:10.46 | Adys | on? |
| 22:15.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.10 | sancus | haha, epic engineering goggles |
| 22:16.19 | sancus | NOW MAGES ARE REQUIRED TO BE TAILOR ENGINEERS SUP~! |
| 22:16.24 | Teomyr | fishing changes ftw! |
| 22:16.27 | Adys | lol |
| 22:17.56 | Teomyr | <span title="#tooltip_1234">This shows the tooltip on mouseover</span> <div id="tooltip_1234" class="tooltip">This is the tooltip's content</div> |
| 22:18.01 | Teomyr | what do you think about that syntax? |
| 22:18.14 | Adys | hmm |
| 22:18.18 | Teomyr | i have to abuse the 'title' tag a little |
| 22:18.29 | Adys | heh |
| 22:18.49 | Teomyr | i'd love to use xml namespaces, but xhtml doesn't permit it |
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| 22:22.26 | Skyfire | has everyone seen http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_ability ? |
| 22:27.11 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Superiority_Complex |
| 22:27.51 | Skyfire | yeah... |
| 22:28.16 | foxlit | "Fishing has been removed from Arathi Basin and Alterac Valley. " cry! |
| 22:28.51 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:29.03 | Skyfire | gg honor farmers (or w/e you call them these days) |
| 22:29.27 | foxlit | <3 Skinning higher level creatures will give more leather; you will no longer get a single leather scrap. |
| 22:30.33 | foxlit | Although LW is still pretty annoying past 365 |
| 22:35.42 | winkiller | agreed |
| 22:35.59 | winkiller | lol, I skinned the Kara random beast boss for 1 scrap 2 days ago |
| 22:36.13 | foxlit | Only place that's been decent is BM |
| 22:36.47 | foxlit | And that's probably because it's an instance |
| 22:41.20 | Skyfire | ok, who killed the wiki?! |
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| 22:45.44 | Bleeter | me! it failed to deliver coffee |
| 22:45.53 | Skyfire | that's mean |
| 22:46.02 | Skyfire | dutempete, did you have alook at that infobox? |
| 22:46.22 | DuTempete | what do you mean? |
| 22:46.34 | DuTempete | wait, which infobox? |
| 22:46.35 | Skyfire | have a look at the discussion for the warlock project |
| 22:46.43 | DuTempete | okies |
| 22:46.58 | DuTempete | I was just waiting for my watchlist to load =P |
| 22:47.11 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:47.16 | DuTempete | Heh... still waiting... |
| 22:47.39 | DuTempete | gogo, speedywiki!! |
| 22:47.46 | Skyfire | yeah... someone killed the wiki! |
| 22:47.54 | Skyfire | bleeter confessed... |
| 22:48.03 | DuTempete | Ack! |
| 22:49.05 | *** join/#wowwiki Sky2042 (n=rawsonat@c-76-105-193-92.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 22:49.42 | DuTempete | Oh yeah, it's really broken |
| 22:49.51 | DuTempete | hey Sky2042 |
| 22:50.21 | DuTempete | main page isn't loaded right, and login keeps taking me to the fuxxored main page |
| 22:50.32 | Sky2042 | i made it work |
| 22:50.42 | DuTempete | oh, much better now |
| 22:51.06 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Ability_Infobox |
| 22:51.06 | DuTempete | What did you do to break it? =P |
| 22:51.12 | DuTempete | I know I know, I'm trying to get there! =P |
| 22:51.27 | Sky2042 | click the link! |
| 22:52.06 | DuTempete | Ooh, we've been found by Kitanbot! |
| 22:53.14 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 22:54.06 | DuTempete | Oh yeah, I saw that infobox earlier today, it's pretty good. |
| 22:54.36 | DuTempete | I was gonna wait to see what others said about it before I went and slapped a link on the project page |
| 22:55.05 | DuTempete | Actually, I'll go and throw it on the discussion page |
| 23:08.05 | Skyfire | ;) |
| 23:12.21 | DuTempete | D'oh |
| 23:12.43 | Skyfire | lol |
| 23:12.50 | DuTempete | On the kitanbot thing, we just had a couple pages that the bot changed from elinks to elinks-quest |
| 23:12.57 | Skyfire | ruh roh |
| 23:18.01 | Kirkburn | Is that a mistake or what? |
| 23:18.47 | Kirkburn | Actually, I'm off for now |
| 23:18.53 | Kirkburn | Ttyl |
| 23:18.58 | DuTempete | lates |
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| 23:29.16 | Adys | nn ppl |
| 23:37.28 | Skyfire | ack@kirkburn |
| 23:37.57 | Skyfire | tekkub |
| 23:38.02 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:38.06 | Skyfire | please? |
| 23:38.14 | Tekkub | what? |
| 23:38.29 | Skyfire | speedy http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Example.jpg |
| 23:39.34 | Teomyr | "horde orcs are cool" wow, how descriptive |
| 23:40.13 | Skyfire | you should look at http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Horde&action=edit&oldid=579964 |
| 23:40.15 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 23:40.22 | Skyfire | i are reverting |
| 23:40.46 | Skyfire | oh, and can you ban the uploader? he vandalized http://www.wowwiki.com/Horde |
| 23:41.37 | Teomyr | lol |
| 23:42.04 | Skosiris | is this kind of vandalism frequent? |
| 23:42.26 | Teomyr | i remember someone moving "Gruul the Dragonslayer" to "Gruul the STUPID DragonFUCKER" |
| 23:42.32 | Skyfire | yeah... |
| 23:42.41 | Skyfire | i think that was the on wheels vandal |
| 23:42.43 | Skyfire | ol |
| 23:42.47 | Skyfire | lol* |
| 23:42.49 | Skosiris | lol |
| 23:43.05 | Skyfire | yes, skosiris, it's even expected of wikis... you should look at what happens on wikipedia |
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| 23:43.20 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Known_vandals |
| 23:43.32 | Skyfire | :] |
| 23:45.24 | sancus | lol |
| 23:45.25 | Skosiris | it shouldn't be allowed to "shorten" an article that much |
| 23:45.31 | *** join/#wowwiki Kept (n=htr@131.247.77.152) |
| 23:45.45 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 23:45.51 | Skosiris | unless the user is an admin, of course |
| 23:46.07 | Skyfire | eh |
| 23:46.11 | Skyfire | can't do much about it |
| 23:46.18 | Teomyr | well, sometimes that is necessary, for example for archiving discussions, splitting up pages, redirecting... |
| 23:46.32 | Skyfire | unless there is (somewhere inbetween mediawiki 1.6 and 1.9) a change to that |
| 23:46.33 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 23:46.58 | Teomyr | it would be a lot worse if wowwiki didn't require registration :P |
| 23:47.22 | Skyfire | however, 1.9 does have that neat feature that allows you to see on the RC list how many bytes have been removed or added in the article. |
| 23:47.29 | Skyfire | that's what i really want/ |
| 23:47.53 | sancus | UPDATE articles set content=NULL; |
| 23:47.59 | sancus | short enough?!?!? |
| 23:48.16 | Skosiris | lol |
| 23:48.19 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:RC is a good start |
| 23:48.44 | foxlit | A large part of my editing would show up as removes, really. |
| 23:48.56 | Skyfire | lol |
| 23:48.59 | foxlit | Too much redundant content in some articles. |
| 23:49.05 | Skyfire | true |
| 23:49.08 | Skyfire | who are you, btw? |
| 23:49.15 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Starlightblunder |
| 23:49.19 | Skyfire | ah |
| 23:49.32 | foxlit | On RC/Skip anyway, so you don't see me. |
| 23:49.32 | Skyfire | thought so |
| 23:50.05 | foxlit | Guilty of making [[Argent Dawn]] a giant mess :P |
| 23:51.44 | foxlit | Hm, that page needs some serious fixing |
| 23:52.26 | Skyfire | my god |
| 23:52.30 | Skyfire | that is the truth |
| 23:52.46 | foxlit | Keep in mind, most of that was around 1.11 |
| 23:52.56 | foxlit | So fancy reputation tables weren't around :P |
| 23:53.06 | Skyfire | true |
| 23:53.07 | Skyfire | but still |
| 23:54.13 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Dungeon_Set_2&oldid=319016 |
| 23:55.10 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Argent_Dawn&oldid=166896 was uglier |
| 23:55.26 | foxlit | So overall it's a positive change |
| 23:56.42 | foxlit | Linkfarm articles are overrated |
| 23:57.33 | foxlit | And http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade makes me weep |
| 23:58.18 | Bleeter | wtf?! "This article concerns content exclusive to The Burning Crusade." |
| 23:58.20 | Bleeter | lies! |
| 23:59.35 | DuTempete | speaking of the TBC template... |
| 23:59.38 | Skyfire | lul |
| 23:59.44 | DuTempete | What qualifies for that? |
| 23:59.44 | foxlit | "In order to give players some of the content they'd need for the expansion, including the new honor system and the new LFG system, patch 2.0.1 was released December 5th, 2006[1] |
| 23:59.45 | Skyfire | not on items dutempete |
| 23:59.47 | foxlit | sigh |
| 23:59.51 | Skyfire | not on quests either, i think |
