| 00:02.46 | MatthewS | define raiding |
| 00:03.03 | Skyfire | kara+ |
| 00:03.09 | MatthewS | maybe |
| 00:03.23 | Skyfire | that's specific |
| 00:03.23 | Skyfire | ;p |
| 00:03.39 | MatthewS | well, i have a mage at 70. he drops into K now and then. nothing regular though |
| 00:03.54 | Kirkburn | Wait, did someone say .co is a second level domain |
| 00:04.00 | MatthewS | it can be |
| 00:04.01 | Skyfire | who? |
| 00:04.04 | Kirkburn | .co.uk is an ending, like .com |
| 00:04.31 | Kirkburn | It's the UK equivalent of .com |
| 00:04.55 | MatthewS | it's also colombia |
| 00:06.35 | Skyfire | then i think you should beat that editor over the head with a big stick |
| 00:06.39 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 00:09.20 | cheesewedge | i thought about starting a mage |
| 00:09.58 | Skyfire | shoulda |
| 00:10.00 | Skyfire | mages ftw |
| 00:10.06 | Skyfire | even if we are a bitchy bunch :] |
| 00:12.45 | Skyfire | kirkburn > angry ogre |
| 00:12.47 | Skyfire | imo |
| 00:12.53 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 00:13.00 | Kirkburn | That was quick |
| 00:13.11 | Skyfire | oh, i'm a rc spammer ;P |
| 00:13.27 | Skyfire | F5 ftw! |
| 00:14.53 | cheesewedge | is the undead a better a better class for mages? |
| 00:15.31 | Skyfire | its generally seen as the best for a mage, yes |
| 00:15.46 | Skyfire | they all have their perques (perks?) |
| 00:18.58 | Kirkburn | Mind if I remove the black bar from all the class articles? It's completely pointless |
| 00:19.02 | Skyfire | now how the hell... |
| 00:19.07 | Skyfire | feel free |
| 00:19.11 | Skyfire | i've been thinking the same thing |
| 00:19.14 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 00:19.30 | Skyfire | lol! |
| 00:19.52 | Skyfire | notice anything unusual about the tooltip on this item? http://www.wowwiki.com/Fanblade_Pauldrons |
| 00:20.10 | Kirkburn | Sky, you planning on redoing other class articles? |
| 00:20.19 | Kirkburn | Or was that a one off? |
| 00:20.32 | Kirkburn | Argh, can you help remove the banners, getting slowness |
| 00:20.36 | Skyfire | something like the former; i'll fix grammar and such |
| 00:21.00 | Skyfire | i did mage primarily because its the class i know best :] |
| 00:21.33 | Skyfire | the banner's not a template, is it? |
| 00:22.07 | Kirkburn | nope |
| 00:22.12 | Skyfire | huh |
| 00:22.26 | Skyfire | hmm... i actually had an idea for a new template... >:) |
| 00:23.15 | Skyfire | argh |
| 00:23.31 | Skyfire | me2, me2 |
| 00:23.47 | Skyfire | and im hungr -_- |
| 00:24.18 | Skyfire | okie dokie, paladins getting an overhaul |
| 00:25.13 | Skyfire | i wonder... |
| 00:25.17 | Kirkburn | I really need to sleep, so I'll leave you with that :) |
| 00:25.20 | Skyfire | pft |
| 00:25.24 | Skyfire | you're just lazy :P |
| 00:26.47 | Skyfire | Priest is broken... |
| 00:27.15 | Kirkburn | It might be a good idea to get the class icon on there somewhere I suppose |
| 00:28.42 | Skyfire | it's on the header on the right ;P |
| 00:29.59 | Kirkburn | true |
| 00:30.29 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 00:30.42 | Skyfire | i'm not so sure about getting rid of {{icon}} outside of the template |
| 00:30.55 | Skyfire | consider every talent page :/ |
| 00:31.06 | Skyfire | and it could be useful here as well |
| 00:32.18 | Kirkburn | I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 00:32.52 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests |
| 00:35.21 | Skyfire | ooo |
| 00:35.24 | Skyfire | :] |
| 00:35.52 | Skyfire | there's something on every page i'd like to incorporate |
| 00:35.55 | Skyfire | this could be fun |
| 00:43.21 | Skyfire | lern2sleep |
| 00:43.23 | Skyfire | imo |
| 00:46.37 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 00:46.54 | Kitan | hello |
| 00:47.36 | Skyfire | hiiiiiiiiiii kitan |
| 00:49.38 | Kirkburn | If you find that black band elsewhere, get rid of it |
| 00:49.58 | Kirkburn | That whole design thing is like 2 years old and awful ... AWFUL :( |
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| 00:51.05 | Adys | hrmm |
| 00:51.41 | Kirkburn | evening |
| 00:52.23 | Karrius | Anyone know how Judgement of the Crusader works? Is it equivalent to getting +Spell Damage gear? |
| 00:52.32 | Adys | yes karrius |
| 00:52.34 | Adys | i believe |
| 00:52.47 | Karrius | And I assume, then, that Retribution Aura has no coefficient. |
| 00:53.17 | Skyfire | i think that is correct |
| 00:53.41 | Adys | dont think retrib aura gains from spelldmg |
| 00:54.05 | Karrius | I just got Ret Aura, and I noticed Judgement of the Crusader wasn't upping its damage |
| 00:54.36 | Skyfire | booooooo kirk ;p |
| 00:54.40 | Kitan | Adys, is there any caveat to the elinksquest bot request update like there was with Quality? |
| 00:54.48 | Adys | how you mean? |
| 00:55.15 | Skyfire | hmm, do we have it said anywhere that "If you notice someone activvely editing a page, please try to refrain from editing it yourself"? |
| 00:55.19 | Kitan | Well I should wait so I don't do useless edits for quality |
| 00:55.33 | Kitan | wondering if there is anything similar for elinksquest etc |
| 00:55.42 | Skyfire | as a matter of courtesy |
| 00:55.55 | Adys | Kitan, nah |
| 00:56.08 | Adys | Go ahead, only if you're bored |
| 00:56.32 | Kitan | only if I am bored? |
| 00:56.33 | Kitan | :) |
| 00:56.37 | Adys | yes :P |
| 00:56.46 | Kitan | hrm |
| 00:57.09 | Skyfire | well, having to merge text into someone else's edit adys, is not only annoying, but can also be painstaking. I usually just copy paste over theirs, but sometimes that just isn't possible. |
| 00:57.27 | Kitan | well there are a couple of mods I need to do to the bot. But I think after elinks it will be mostly algorithms and not so much bot changes. |
| 00:57.44 | Adys | Skyfire: thats mediawiki sucking, mostly |
| 00:57.52 | Skyfire | lol |
| 00:58.07 | Kitan | speaking of that... showing my ignorance here.. but templates are either all lower case or Upper first letter and then lower the rest of the word generally? I made the assumption they could be any combination of case and that was definately not the way the clubs worked |
| 00:58.31 | Adys | depends |
| 00:58.38 | Skyfire | they can be any combination, but its good policy to leave them all lowercase |
| 00:58.45 | Skyfire | it says that somewhere :/ |
| 00:58.47 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:AlsoSee |
| 00:58.50 | Kirkburn | The first letter does not matter |
| 00:59.12 | Kitan | {{500ClUb}} would not template out like {{500club}} |
| 00:59.29 | Kirkburn | But as a general rule, lowercase the first letter |
| 00:59.30 | Skyfire | ab |
| 00:59.31 | Kitan | ok |
| 00:59.35 | Skyfire | ah |
| 00:59.40 | Adys | Well depends |
| 00:59.43 | Skyfire | most templates are case sensitive |
| 00:59.49 | Adys | in templates with a LOT of named arguments |
| 00:59.52 | Skyfire | there is a function to not make it case sensitive |
| 00:59.59 | Skyfire | let me see if i can find it |
| 01:00.07 | Adys | its nice having the template calls {{Uppercase}} since all the args are {{{lowercase}}} |
| 01:00.22 | Adys | See {{tooltip}} |
| 01:00.38 | Skyfire | {{Tooltip}} works as well as {{tooltip}} |
| 01:00.44 | Kirkburn | Bah, I should be sleeping |
| 01:00.49 | Adys | Not what i meant skyfire |
| 01:00.52 | Skyfire | we know |
| 01:00.53 | Kirkburn | Maybe ttyl 2moro, who knows |
| 01:00.56 | Adys | See the code of the template tooltip |
| 01:00.57 | Skyfire | that's what i thought :/ |
| 01:00.59 | Adys | laters kirk |
| 01:01.03 | Adys | ill try and check up ww:el |
| 01:01.13 | Kirkburn | Cool |
| 01:01.22 | Kitan | actually case sensitive is easier for me |
| 01:01.22 | Skyfire | kirk |
| 01:01.26 | Kitan | I just assumed for it not to be |
| 01:01.34 | Kitan | ltaer Kirk |
| 01:01.48 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Tooltip it seems fandyllic would appreciate an answer :) |
| 01:02.33 | Skyfire | other than that, have a good nite kirk |
| 01:03.38 | Skyfire | hmm |
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| 01:04.45 | Kirkburn | Former, I think |
| 01:05.06 | Skyfire | Adys |
| 01:05.09 | Adys | y |
| 01:05.11 | Skyfire | what's the name of that function? |
| 01:05.16 | Skyfire | argh |
| 01:05.16 | Adys | which? |
| 01:05.30 | Skyfire | the one to make a template non-case sensitive |
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| 01:05.53 | Adys | theres some shit like that, i dont think its for templates tho |
| 01:05.55 | Kitan | I don't need a non case sensitive one. |
| 01:06.15 | Skyfire | it's included in more than a few adys |
| 01:06.18 | Skyfire | we know kitan |
| 01:06.21 | Kitan | no need to look.. I just thought that they were and didn't want to miss it if someone put {{500ClUb}} or some such in there |
| 01:06.22 | Kitan | oh ok |
| 01:06.24 | Skyfire | it's just bugging me :) |
| 01:06.38 | Kitan | I did miss Hob's personal template |
| 01:06.50 | Kitan | :( |
| 01:06.52 | Adys | where, skyfire? |
| 01:07.27 | Skyfire | huh |
| 01:07.34 | Skyfire | nvm... i know its out there though |
| 01:07.38 | Adys | included where? |
| 01:07.38 | Skyfire | let me dig around :) |
| 01:07.41 | Adys | ok |
| 01:09.31 | Skyfire | it was a chat between vyso and zeal, or possibly zeal and vargh. somewhere... argh |
| 01:10.03 | Skyfire | quality |
| 01:10.06 | Skyfire | got it |
| 01:10.15 | Skyfire | yeah |
| 01:10.18 | Skyfire | it must be quality |
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| 01:11.15 | Adys | heya skosiris |
| 01:12.00 | Skyfire | no.... not quality |
| 01:12.02 | Skyfire | loot |
| 01:12.04 | Skosiris | Hey |
| 01:12.08 | Skyfire | hah! |
| 01:12.35 | Skyfire | {{lc}} Adys |
| 01:12.39 | Skyfire | {{lc}} |
| 01:12.46 | Skyfire | {{lc}} |
| 01:12.51 | Skyfire | ick |
| 01:12.55 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Loot#Simplify_code |
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| 01:15.42 | Adys | I see yes |
| 01:16.21 | Skyfire | huh |
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| 01:47.09 | Kitan | skyfire are you Sky on the wiki? |
| 01:56.41 | Tekkub | Hey Adys |
| 01:56.47 | Adys | hmm? |
| 01:56.52 | Tekkub | 'site' is not meant to be optional :) |
| 01:57.12 | Adys | it is, if 2 exists then site shouldnt exist |
| 01:57.13 | Adys | no? |
| 01:58.00 | Tekkub | well 2 can prolly be dropped |
| 01:58.16 | Adys | ooh i think i see |
| 01:58.29 | Tekkub | I was aiming for {{Elink|http://...|site name|Description goes here}} |
| 01:58.38 | Tekkub | but '=' in a link fucks it up |
| 01:58.44 | Tekkub | so it has to be link=blah |
| 01:58.59 | Adys | hehe, i use tinyurl generally for that |
| 01:59.00 | Tekkub | so I made em all named... so number could be nixed entirely |
| 01:59.27 | Tekkub | a tinyurl for an elink doesn't sound good |
| 01:59.38 | Adys | So {{{site|External link}}} ? |
| 01:59.42 | Tekkub | almost sounds like you're trying to hide the real domain... |
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| 02:00.00 | Tekkub | if you want, but I think lite name should be required |
| 02:00.06 | Gryphen | also have to think beyond what you use, not a lot of tinyurl used |
| 02:00.14 | Tekkub | we want people to know where they're going |
| 02:00.26 | Adys | it wasnt really a solution proposal ;) |
| 02:00.38 | Adys | tinyurls are not always fiable either |
| 02:00.41 | Adys | I just use that |
| 02:00.43 | Tekkub | well if it wasn't a problem, why'd ya go fixing it? :) |
| 02:00.54 | Adys | No, the tinyurl stuff tekk :P |
| 02:01.00 | Tekkub | oh |
| 02:01.04 | Tekkub | meslow today |
| 02:01.11 | Adys | ~ping |
| 02:01.12 | infobot | pong |
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| 02:37.22 | Kitan | helo |
| 02:37.25 | Kitan | hello too |
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| 02:41.02 | Bagginsww | hmm us servers are down? |
| 02:51.40 | Hobinheim|work | kitan, what template did i do? |
| 02:52.11 | Kitan | you had {{Hobinheim/bio}} and my bot didn't follow the template to modify your {{2500club}} |
| 02:52.38 | Kitan | Baggins... my wife and mother in law are playing now |
| 02:53.26 | Kitan | on us servers |
| 02:53.38 | Kitan | Hobinheim? |
| 02:53.46 | Hobinheim|play | i don't follo |
| 02:55.20 | Adys | wth |
| 02:55.37 | Adys | ah got it |
| 02:55.41 | Adys | was an includeonly |
| 02:56.01 | Adys | Hobinheim|play |
| 02:56.02 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User%3AHobinheim%2Fbio&diff=575778&oldid=451286 |
| 02:56.55 | Kitan | My bot was changing {{2500club}} to {{Wwclub|2500}} |
| 02:57.12 | Kitan | since your template had it as include only it only showed on the whatlinkshere page as your user page. |
| 02:57.14 | Adys | comp melting up, and brains aswell |
| 02:57.16 | Adys | nn peeps |
| 02:57.20 | Kitan | and my bot didn't follow your template link |
| 02:57.30 | Kitan | to modify the template you were using |
| 02:57.31 | Kitan | later adys |
| 02:58.39 | Kitan | understand now? :) |
| 02:58.45 | Kitan | I think you were a 2500 |
| 02:58.50 | Kitan | but possibly not |
| 03:00.43 | Kitan | nods anyway? |
| 03:00.43 | Hobinheim|play | yes very interesting |
| 03:00.45 | Kitan | come on hob! |
| 03:00.47 | Kitan | hehe |
| 03:00.48 | Hobinheim|play | lol |
| 03:01.40 | Kitan | though the switch to lighttpd totally horked me for a few hours |
| 03:01.44 | Kitan | I was confused as freeb |
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| 04:24.56 | Shirik | potters? As in someone who makes a pot? |
| 04:25.34 | Shirik | so I would assume "to potter" means to make someone who makes a pot? |
| 04:25.40 | Shirik | He must be a mad scientist |
| 04:26.37 | Psyker7 | Damn.... |
| 04:26.41 | Psyker7 | It wasn't me... I swear.... |
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| 04:57.30 | JunkHead-Work | Hello. |
| 04:57.45 | Shirik | rawr |
| 04:58.44 | JunkHead-Work | Meow! |
| 04:59.04 | JunkHead-Work | I r @ wrk now! |
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| 05:24.06 | Skyfire | HOLA MIS AMIGOS! COMO ESTAN?! |
| 05:26.31 | Shirik | s'il te plait, parler français ou anglais; je ne peux pas comprendre otres langues |
| 05:30.46 | Skyfire | pft |
| 05:31.25 | Skyfire | gryphen , tekkub , hobinheim|play , or kirkburn|afk ? |
| 05:31.37 | Shirik | sure, not me :( |
| 05:31.39 | Shirik | I see how it is |
| 05:31.52 | Skyfire | you =! admin |
| 05:31.58 | Shirik | != |
| 05:32.06 | Shirik | =! will give you = (!admin) |
| 05:32.42 | Skyfire | times like these i wouldn't mind being an admin blgh |
| 05:32.50 | Shirik | hehe |
| 05:34.35 | Skyfire | wtb admin, pst |
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| 05:35.32 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:35.38 | Skyfire | vandals are funnnnnny |
| 05:35.48 | Skyfire | this change actually made me laugh |
| 05:35.49 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Kungen&diff=576382&oldid=574141 |
| 05:36.00 | Skyfire | he's got a point :D |
| 05:40.01 | Skyfire | LOL |
| 05:40.04 | Karrius | It seems to me like you shouldn't have those other statements without proof, not that you should remove them when you find proof otherwise... |
| 05:40.06 | Skyfire | HES SMARTER THAN THE REST |
| 05:40.26 | Skyfire | he edited the vandals list to say that i'm the one vandalizing the pages |
| 05:40.28 | Skyfire | ^^ |
| 05:40.50 | Skyfire | goddamn admins |
| 05:40.56 | Skyfire | never on when you need them |
| 05:42.41 | Skyfire | ty gryphen |
| 05:42.52 | Skyfire | can you delete his talk page too :x |
| 05:43.04 | Skyfire | though I must say, it was entertaining |
| 05:58.07 | sancus | yeah that talk page is kinda backwards |
| 05:58.20 | sancus | You need proof to make claims, not to deny them :P |
| 05:59.52 | Skyfire | oh well |
| 06:00.06 | Skyfire | i still thought the thing was funny after he found the vandals page |
| 06:00.18 | Skyfire | while i was watching, no less. |
| 06:00.18 | sancus | that edit is funny |
| 06:00.34 | sancus | although tbh I'm not even sure the orange sword isnt still the best tank weapon |
| 06:00.38 | sancus | it might be |
| 06:00.53 | Karrius | It's not, really. |
| 06:00.55 | Skyfire | i don't think so |
| 06:01.00 | Skyfire | the proc got nerfed in .10 |
| 06:01.20 | Skyfire | don't know how much, but probably a significant amount |
| 06:01.49 | sancus | I realize the proc got nerfed |
| 06:02.03 | sancus | It was the best pre-tbc tank weapon by leaps and bounds, anyway |
| 06:02.07 | Karrius | Honestly, it's more something I might want on a rogue, really. |
| 06:02.18 | Karrius | There are too many good tanking weapons, even though the proc is badass |
| 06:02.19 | sancus | no, it doesn't do much dps compared to a real weapon |
| 06:02.29 | sancus | huh |
| 06:02.29 | Karrius | Eh, maybe not a rogue. |
| 06:02.29 | sancus | no there's not |
| 06:02.37 | Karrius | No there's not good tanking weapons? |
| 06:02.51 | sancus | There was nothing even close to TF pre-tbc |
| 06:03.00 | Karrius | I'm not talking pre. |
| 06:03.12 | sancus | post-tbc, the weapon is useless if its not the best tank weapon anymore |
| 06:03.22 | sancus | Because it wasn't any good for a rogue or dps warrior even before tbc |
| 06:03.33 | sancus | naxx weapons were significantly superior |
| 06:03.49 | Karrius | The issue more is: a 20% reduced attack speed proc is totally badass, but there are tank weapons that have some major stats on them. |
| 06:04.11 | sancus | that's not the issue :) |
| 06:04.20 | Karrius | I get what you're saying. |
| 06:04.21 | Karrius | DPS is too low. |
| 06:05.12 | sancus | the slow isnt even why it was good |
| 06:05.22 | sancus | that stopped being the real reason when they made Thunder Clap comparable |
| 06:05.31 | sancus | I think it's actually better now, heh |
| 06:05.36 | sancus | (they dont stack) |
| 06:05.51 | Skyfire | i lyke the orangeness, and the general look of the weapon... :O |
| 06:06.24 | sancus | The reason it ruled was because a tank with TF produced far more threat than any other tank could ever hope to |
| 06:06.39 | sancus | Because the proc produced considerably more threat than its actual dps implied it should |
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| 06:08.05 | sancus | that's why they nerfed it in .10 |
| 06:08.36 | Karrius | Speaking of big, heavy weapons... do we have any pally players hear tonight? |
| 06:08.37 | Karrius | here |
| 06:09.58 | Karrius | Even if it's just mid-level |
| 06:13.08 | Skyfire | lol |
| 06:13.08 | Skyfire | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=91690056&sid=1 |
| 06:13.21 | Skyfire | warlock qqing = rogue pewpewing |
| 06:15.47 | Karrius | lol wut |
| 06:16.09 | Skyfire | see above link |
| 06:16.22 | Karrius | lol wut |
| 06:16.40 | Skyfire | -_- |
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| 06:17.48 | Karrius | Ok, I have to say. |
| 06:17.57 | Karrius | Who the hell designed the paladin class? He had to have been on crack. |
| 06:18.19 | Skyfire | it was different in beta... so blame the sony devs :] |
| 06:18.36 | Karrius | It's not so much the usual complaints, no, it's far geekier. |
| 06:18.47 | Karrius | Paladins have a lot of seals, judgements, and blessings that give +s to other effects |
| 06:18.58 | Karrius | Some of these +s are PRE spell coefficient. Some are POST spell coefficient. |
| 06:19.02 | Karrius | There's no telling which is which. |
| 06:19.18 | Skyfire | l2p nub lol |
| 06:19.20 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 06:19.27 | Karrius | lol wut |
| 06:19.27 | Skyfire | poke around on the Paladin forums |
| 06:19.30 | Karrius | No. |
| 06:19.33 | Karrius | I might catch something. |
| 06:20.12 | Skyfire | LOL |
| 06:20.19 | Skyfire | srsly, they won't bite |
| 06:20.59 | Skyfire | at least look for a guide; if they don't have one, then post something "I was wondering about the auras and judgments and shit" |
| 06:21.29 | JunkHead-Work | Paladin questions? |
| 06:21.33 | Karrius | Yes. |
| 06:21.40 | JunkHead-Work | Shoot. |
| 06:21.46 | JunkHead-Work | I doubt I can help but I'll try. |
| 06:21.52 | Karrius | I'm trying to get a handle on the math and the build suggestions for a paladin. |
| 06:21.54 | Karrius | Well, for starters. |
| 06:21.57 | Shirik | Karrius: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBKqNt5ysq4 |
| 06:22.09 | Karrius | I'm leveling retribution, obviously. |
| 06:22.16 | JunkHead-Work | I can't help on math. |
| 06:22.28 | JunkHead-Work | I let people with far more time than I do come up with that crap. |
| 06:22.33 | Karrius | Is Vindication worth it? How much do monsters really rely on str and agil? |
| 06:22.47 | Karrius | Shirik- Heh, I've seen that before. |
| 06:22.54 | JunkHead-Work | Yup. I figured I wouldn't be able to help you. I was right. |
| 06:22.57 | JunkHead-Work | <-- Holy. |
| 06:23.02 | Skyfire | LOL |
| 06:23.05 | Karrius | You leveled holy? |
| 06:23.08 | Skyfire | holy > ret |
| 06:23.10 | JunkHead-Work | Yes I did. |
| 06:23.12 | Skyfire | for leveling too ^^ |
| 06:23.16 | Karrius | Really... |
| 06:23.19 | Skyfire | my brother did it that way :] |
| 06:23.20 | Karrius | You'd suggest it, then? |
| 06:23.26 | JunkHead-Work | I leveled from 1-70 almost all holy. |
| 06:23.29 | Karrius | Or is this like what I did with my warrior, and leveled prot? |
| 06:23.30 | JunkHead-Work | No. |
| 06:23.35 | JunkHead-Work | I won't suggest it. |
| 06:23.44 | JunkHead-Work | Because it's all I've done. |
| 06:23.46 | Karrius | I likewise won't suggest leveling a prot warrior. |
| 06:23.52 | JunkHead-Work | I have no idea if prot or ret is better. |
| 06:24.04 | JunkHead-Work | I have nothing to compare it to. |
| 06:24.15 | Skyfire | karrius, it should be a ret/holy mix i think. i can check with my bro later |
| 06:24.18 | Karrius | How good were you? Able to handle elite mobs? |
| 06:24.26 | JunkHead-Work | If you want to lvl fast, don't go holy grind. |
| 06:24.32 | Karrius | Sky- I'm level 17 right now. I'm probablly just going to be one spec for now. |
| 06:24.35 | JunkHead-Work | If you want to be hard to kill... holy is fine. |
| 06:24.49 | Karrius | I sure as heck intend to get holy stuff way later on, and maybe respec if I ever do hit 70 |
| 06:24.52 | JunkHead-Work | And yes I can usually handle an elite of my lvl or 1 lvl below me. |
| 06:25.12 | JunkHead-Work | Also today, I did quests in Shadowmoon Valley. |
| 06:25.30 | JunkHead-Work | You know those Blood Elf guys on the temple, the ones that duel each other? |
| 06:25.36 | Karrius | Yeah |
| 06:25.39 | JunkHead-Work | I managed to get 5-6 of thos eon me at once. |
| 06:25.49 | JunkHead-Work | By accident. |
| 06:25.52 | JunkHead-Work | But I still lived. |
| 06:25.56 | Karrius | My paladin is intended to be a "Level when noone needs a Mage, and eventually heal, maybe." |
| 06:26.08 | Skyfire | lol |
| 06:26.09 | JunkHead-Work | Was out of mana but I still have 1500-2000 hp left. |
| 06:26.12 | Skyfire | lern2aoegrind ;P |
| 06:26.17 | Skyfire | mages love healer |
| 06:26.56 | JunkHead-Work | My Mage was specced for AOE, but I respecced her recently. |
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| 06:28.06 | Karrius | My current main is a mage, and I feel like beating shit with a sword once again. |
| 06:28.14 | Karrius | And paladin is the only class I didn't really try out for long. |
| 06:28.27 | JunkHead-Work | My Paladin doesn't hit very hard. |
| 06:28.39 | Karrius | Leveling druid was boring, priest was so much fun for WSG but I'm not doing that again, did a warrior on another server... |
| 06:28.41 | JunkHead-Work | But still manages to take down mobs due to seal of vengeance and such. |
| 06:29.10 | JunkHead-Work | And Holy Shock helps too of course. |
| 06:29.13 | Skyfire | leveling a druid was boring... have fun with a paladin... not. :X |
| 06:29.49 | Karrius | Paladin isn't bad so far. |
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| 06:30.17 | JunkHead-Work | Paladin grinding is easy. Or at least for me it was. It was slow, but relatively easy. |
| 06:32.13 | Karrius | ...ok, this is probablly something that shouldn't belong, but. |
| 06:32.17 | Karrius | WoWWiki, on Seal of Blood: |
| 06:32.17 | Karrius | The Paladin Retribution talents Sanctity Aura, Vengeance, and Crusade all affect the damage dealt by this seal, and also doubly affect the returned damage component of this seal, making the returned damage more than the 10% stated on this seal's tooltip. This has been regarded as a feature, not a bug. |
| 06:33.47 | JunkHead-Work | I don't even know what Seal of Blood does. |
| 06:33.57 | JunkHead-Work | Alliance's Seal is different. |
| 06:34.06 | Karrius | Horde seal. It gives you a large holy damage buff, but you take 10% of the damage in return |
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| 06:35.40 | JunkHead-Work | The Ally seal is a debuff that stacks. |
| 06:35.56 | JunkHead-Work | And it does a DOT depending on how many are stacked. |
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| 11:32.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Right, I'm off |
| 11:32.14 | Kirkburn|afk | No idea when I'll be back |
| 11:32.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Monday probably |
| 11:32.22 | JunkHead-Work | Bye bye! |
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| 13:06.48 | Adys | woops |
| 13:13.18 | Adys | Expanded a bit ~ http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AHistlegend&diff=576664&oldid=454712 |
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| 14:29.05 | Kitan | hello all |
| 14:29.18 | Teomyr | hi |
| 14:29.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | hi Kitan :) |
| 14:30.53 | Teomyr | uaaaargh http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Herb_19.jpg |
| 14:34.22 | Kitan | what is wrong with the file? |
| 14:34.32 | Teomyr | it's in jpeg format |
| 14:34.54 | Teomyr | icons should be in PNG format, and there is already a png version |
| 14:35.04 | Adys | AAAAAAAFGGGGGGFGFHHHGHHRGFHRGH |
| 14:35.14 | Teomyr | that's the reaction i expected |
| 14:35.20 | Teomyr | :P |
| 14:35.49 | Kitan | ahh |
| 14:35.50 | Teomyr | lol @ RC |
| 14:35.51 | Kitan | my bad |
| 14:36.19 | Adys | thats why i insisted to get {{icon}} a default extension and different ones with ext= |
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| 14:37.39 | Adys | :P |
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| 14:47.20 | Lysistrata | Does anyone know how much Dwarf Rep all the Uldaman QUests give? |
| 14:52.02 | Adys | most quests gave 200 rep while i was still low level, but i think its been upped since the patch |
| 14:52.16 | Lysistrata | Hmmm OK, thanks ^^ |
| 14:52.26 | Lysistrata | So I guess it will be 350 like many other ... |
| 14:52.45 | Lysistrata | Damn that will just be 2100 REP >_< Geee ... gotta search for more dwarf quests %) |
| 14:52.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
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| 14:57.11 | Kitan | Adys I have a questoin? |
| 14:57.13 | Kitan | question |
| 14:57.15 | Kitan | one minute |
| 14:57.15 | Adys | y |
| 14:57.48 | Kitan | ok |
| 14:58.12 | Kitan | so right now {{elinksquest}} needs to be replaced with {{elinks-quest}} |
| 14:58.24 | Adys | y |
| 14:58.44 | Kitan | which in theory should be {{elinks|links={{elinks-quest|1234}}}} |
| 14:58.59 | Adys | Nah |
| 14:59.12 | Kitan | nah? |
| 14:59.13 | Adys | == External links == {{elinks-quest|1234}} |
| 14:59.22 | Kitan | it refers to the elinks template |
| 14:59.28 | Adys | dont bother with {{elinks}} it will probably be removed soon |
| 14:59.32 | Adys | aye but its what we use atm |
| 15:00.02 | Kitan | so it should just be replaced with == External links == {{}} ok... and any other external links should just be left under it? |
| 15:00.13 | Adys | nope |
| 15:00.35 | Kitan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Minshina%27s_Skull |
| 15:00.39 | Kitan | like goblin workshop is there |
| 15:00.46 | Kitan | underneath elinksquest |
| 15:01.04 | Adys | kill gws links |
| 15:01.38 | Adys | its a shit database, using names instead of IDs |
| 15:02.24 | Adys | there we go |
| 15:02.35 | Kitan | kill all other external links near elinksquest? |
| 15:02.39 | Kitan | or just gws? |
| 15:02.55 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest%3AMinshina%27s_Skull&diff=576758&oldid=477684 |
| 15:03.05 | Adys | hm, well |
| 15:03.13 | Adys | i doubt any external link can be useful for quests |
| 15:03.22 | Adys | and theres really not that many, a hundred if not less |
| 15:03.30 | Adys | so just kill all external links |
| 15:03.44 | Adys | Speaking of external links |
| 15:03.52 | Adys | Tekkub, Gryphen, ping |
| 15:04.04 | Adys | External links should allow the user to see different opinions and/or informations about something specific in the game. If the website linked contains only information already present on the wiki, the link should not be present. If the information comes specifically from a certain website, the website should be cited as a source link at the end of the section concerned. |
| 15:04.04 | Adys | While we do want as much information as possible on the wiki, inaccuracy (such as droprates) or opinions (such as discussions about speculations) should be reserved for outside websites. The {{discussiontab}} page should be used only to discuss which version is the most neutral and will be present on the main article. |
| 15:04.07 | Adys | Linked websites are under the [[WW:DNP|DNP]] policy aswell, and links will be removed if the website is considered as violating this policy. |
| 15:04.21 | Adys | From WW:EL |
| 15:04.49 | Kitan | yeha I just scanned that |
| 15:04.53 | Kitan | page... when reading it |
| 15:04.57 | Kitan | figured it applied here |
| 15:05.28 | Tekkub | fine by me |
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| 15:09.56 | Kitan | why is {{elinks}} going away soon? |
| 15:10.44 | Kitan | also, I hate to be picky Adys but you didn't put the == External Links == on the page you changed for me as an example. I just want to get the bot algorithm correct is all. :) |
| 15:10.54 | Adys | doh |
| 15:10.55 | Kitan | no reason to propogate badness |
| 15:11.03 | Adys | no my bad :P |
| 15:11.28 | Kitan | heh.. I could just see me saying, Hey guys I modded 12313423512353426 quest pages... and have someone say that they are all wrong. :-P |
| 15:11.55 | Adys | lowercase L btw |
| 15:11.59 | Adys | == External links == |
| 15:12.16 | Kitan | ok |
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| 15:18.40 | Hobinheim|play | my internet is cutting out again |
| 15:18.42 | Hobinheim|play | i can barely stay online =( |
| 15:18.53 | Hobinheim|work | the fact that i just typed that is a miracle |
| 15:18.56 | Hobinheim|work | on 34th st |
| 15:19.30 | Kitan | was santa there ? Did you sit on his lap while you typed it? |
| 15:19.30 | Adys | Teomyr, ping |
| 15:19.45 | Hobinheim|work | santa had an affair with my mom and left my home in shambles. it's just me, dad, and my dog sparky |
| 15:19.57 | Kitan | sorry to here that :) |
| 15:20.01 | Hobinheim|work | don't smile! |
| 15:20.08 | Hobinheim|work | santa has the same letters as satan |
| 15:20.10 | Kitan | my bad :( |
| 15:20.35 | Hobinheim|work | come to think of it, kitan sounds like satan |
| 15:24.57 | Kitan | ok another question... what about pages like, http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Darnassian_Intrusions, which use questbox? |
| 15:25.09 | Teomyr | Adys, pong |
| 15:25.14 | Adys | anyone able to see http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12987 ? |
| 15:25.20 | Adys | kitan ill check in a sec |
| 15:25.29 | Adys | teomyr, question |
| 15:25.42 | Adys | When you click an item link |
| 15:25.57 | Adys | why should you have stuff like the crafter, charges left or locked/open informations |
| 15:26.08 | Adys | when this doesnt appear on the tooltip? |
| 15:26.19 | Kitan | I get a JavaScript error on that page Adys |
| 15:27.32 | Teomyr | adys, i don't quite get what you mean. in-game item links in chat? |
| 15:27.38 | Adys | yes |
| 15:27.40 | Adys | ok sec |
| 15:28.22 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString |
| 15:28.29 | Adys | "item:4388:0:0:0:0:0:0:210677200" |
| 15:28.29 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.59 | Adys | why should these informations be present on the tooltip? |
| 15:29.12 | Teomyr | i doubt they are |
| 15:30.09 | Teomyr | that information is normally only shown if you inspect someone, for example, which doesn't use item links |
| 15:31.01 | Adys | Ill do a test, im in game atm |
| 15:33.36 | Adys | teomyr, ping |
| 15:33.42 | Teomyr | the comment at the bottom of the page makes sense. it might be a reference to an internal record with extra information, which may or may not be visible to players |
| 15:33.48 | Adys | Ok basically |
| 15:33.59 | Adys | I linked an item with the /run function in [[ItemLink]] |
| 15:34.02 | Adys | script* |
| 15:34.02 | Adys | * |
| 15:34.10 | Adys | 17:33:36 "|cff1eff00|Hitem:22462:0:0:0:0:0:0:265030345|h[Runed Adamantite Rod]|h|r" |
| 15:34.31 | Hobinheim|work | someone keeps adding stuff to the settableall templates |
| 15:34.38 | Hobinheim|work | and it's making it look more ugly than it already is |
| 15:34.41 | Hobinheim|work | INTERVENTION!?!! |
| 15:35.09 | Hobinheim|work | they're supposed to be stripey and sexy, not bloated |
| 15:35.22 | Adys | Ill do another test |
| 15:35.47 | Adys | Ill first link a boe item not bound yet, and then bind it and link it again |
| 15:35.53 | Hobinheim|work | it's not a matter of the information needing to be in the tooltip |
| 15:36.02 | Hobinheim|work | but infomation useful forthe game and developers to track items |
| 15:37.52 | Adys | 17:37:17 Here's what it really looks like: "|cff1eff00|Hitem:25055:0:0:0:0:0:-16:-2047279074|h[Alexandrite Ring of Stamina]|h|r" |
| 15:37.52 | Adys | 17:37:30 [Guild] <AFK>[Adys]: [Alexandrite Ring of Stamina] |
| 15:37.52 | Adys | 17:37:31 Here's what it really looks like: "|cff1eff00|Hitem:25055:0:0:0:0:0:-16:-2047279074|h[Alexandrite Ring of Stamina]|h|r" |
| 15:38.05 | Adys | wtf is the -16 for? |
| 15:40.00 | Teomyr | strange. the suffixid is positive, normally |
| 15:40.15 | Hobinheim|work | what item did you link |
| 15:40.16 | Hobinheim|work | oh |
| 15:40.27 | Adys | +45 stamina |
| 15:40.42 | Teomyr | ah |
| 15:40.54 | Teomyr | the suffixid being negative is explained on http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString |
| 15:41.37 | Hobinheim|work | wow |
| 15:41.47 | Adys | what the hell does that mean? |
| 15:42.25 | Adys | wait |
| 15:42.33 | Adys | does that mean it gathers the bonus from the server? |
| 15:42.39 | Adys | instead of getting it from the client? |
| 15:42.48 | Teomyr | no, only that it's calculated differently |
| 15:42.53 | Hobinheim|work | no the suffix factor base is inside of the unique id |
| 15:42.57 | Teomyr | aah, i think i got it. let me check |
| 15:42.59 | Hobinheim|work | it's K times scale |
| 15:43.07 | Hobinheim|work | where K is a derived number from unique id |
| 15:43.15 | Hobinheim|work | the same as before, just different sources of numbers |
| 15:43.20 | Adys | wth |
| 15:43.36 | Adys | the uniqueID, thats the last one right? |
| 15:43.46 | Hobinheim|work | yeah |
| 15:43.57 | Adys | that would explain why it does have one |
| 15:44.08 | Adys | but then |
| 15:44.16 | Adys | how the fuck is it calculated? |
| 15:44.32 | Hobinheim|work | it's explained there in that code paragraph |
| 15:44.42 | Adys | ive read it, i still dont get it |
| 15:44.49 | Hobinheim|work | you extract the new IDs from the unique IDs and use that to recalculate the bonus, new style |
| 15:44.50 | Teomyr | looks like the suffixFactor is a 2-byte integer |
| 15:45.01 | Teomyr | that is within the unique ID |
| 15:45.18 | Teomyr | but i'm getting bogus values |
| 15:49.57 | Teomyr | ah, got it! :) |
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| 15:50.42 | Teomyr | on that item, you have a unique-id of -2047279074, which is 0x1e00f985 in hex |
| 15:51.42 | Teomyr | on that hex value, the value 0xFFFF0000 is applied using a bitwise AND operation. that means, you get only the first part: 0x1e00 |
| 15:52.30 | Teomyr | is it wrong? :P |
| 15:55.40 | Adys | uhm... |
| 15:55.42 | Teomyr | or let's say you get 0x1e000000, which gives the same result. that's 30, and from the ItemRandomSuffix table you get the formula: Enchant 2803: +(suffixFactor * 1.5) Stamina |
| 15:56.12 | Teomyr | et voilà, 30*1.5 = 45 |
| 15:56.33 | Teomyr | so this number (also) stores the random property of new burning crusade items |
| 15:57.25 | Teomyr | or, it could also be that i'm completely wrong and this is just a coincidence :P |
| 15:58.11 | Hobinheim|work | c'mon adys don't you guys have maths at university |
| 16:01.15 | Teomyr | what could the other 2 bytes be used for? the ones that are masked out |
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| 16:16.48 | Hobinheim|work | maths maths maths |
| 16:16.48 | Hobinheim|work | ooga chaka ooga ooga ooga chaka |
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| 16:21.05 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | VOOO DOOOOOO |
| 16:21.24 | Adys | ./nick Hobinheim|Drunkagain |
| 16:21.54 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | trolls don't drink, do they? |
| 16:22.04 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | dwarves drink, absolutely |
| 16:22.15 | Adys | trolls drink weird stuff |
| 16:22.24 | Adys | dwarves smash their faces with booze |
| 16:23.30 | Kitan | Hob is at work |
| 16:23.35 | Kitan | he shouldn't be drunk! :) |
| 16:23.42 | Kitan | or his nick had |work before |
| 16:25.09 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | i'm not at work anymore |
| 16:25.14 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | I'M AT DA VOODOOO!!!!! |
| 16:25.21 | Hobinheim|Voodoo | i liked this one too |
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| 16:27.16 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | ... |
| 16:28.27 | Kitan | heh |
| 16:28.30 | Kitan | space huh hob? :) |
| 16:29.32 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | my net keeps cutting out |
| 16:30.07 | Kitan | I hate tgat |
| 16:31.47 | ClydeJr | looks like wowhead went down, their links were wonky this morning |
| 16:38.03 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | WOWHEAD!!!!! |
| 16:39.21 | Teomyr | how dare they |
| 16:42.17 | Kitan | isn't there an unofficial template team? |
| 16:42.45 | Teomyr | there is an official one |
| 16:43.00 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Template_Engineers |
| 16:43.39 | Kitan | sweet |
| 16:44.24 | Adys | finally getting answers |
| 16:44.25 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=269577298&pageNo=1 |
| 16:45.58 | Teomyr | wth |
| 16:46.07 | Teomyr | that sounds... really strange oO |
| 16:46.32 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | when will the new teams be in place? |
| 16:46.54 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | wait why are there diff languages? |
| 16:46.57 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | are they all seperate threads? |
| 16:47.11 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | if i click french does it automatically translate everyone's posts? |
| 16:47.40 | Teomyr | have you never been to the european forums? |
| 16:48.01 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | you shouldn't be sorry that you'r efrench. never be sorry! |
| 16:48.13 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | peripherique? |
| 16:50.21 | Teomyr | device |
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| 17:06.38 | Adys | omg |
| 17:06.39 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=272947462&sid=1 |
| 17:08.57 | Teomyr | i wonder how that poster even got beyond the age verification |
| 17:09.55 | Adys | I wonder how that poster even got beyong starting the computer |
| 17:10.21 | Teomyr | i wonder how that poster even got to level 70 |
| 17:10.45 | Adys | I wonder how that poster is still alive |
| 17:13.23 | Kitan | I wonder how that poster was allowed to be concieved? |
| 17:13.26 | Kitan | conceived |
| 17:13.36 | Kitan | wasn't sure out to beat you there Adys |
| 17:14.48 | Kitan | can anyone tell me why Elinks-quest only takes one param id in but elinksquest took two? |
| 17:17.08 | Adys | because thottbot used to have selfmade IDs |
| 17:17.21 | Kitan | and no longer does? |
| 17:17.24 | Kitan | ok |
| 17:17.24 | Adys | nope |
| 17:17.27 | Kitan | thanks Adys |
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| 18:44.18 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | why is there an elinks quest anywya |
| 18:44.23 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | is questbox not good enough? |
| 18:45.31 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | sometimes i think immature people on the internet are actually piloted by highly-intelligent people that like to mix it up |
| 18:45.38 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | i.e. there aren't really any 13 yos on the internet |
| 18:47.28 | Teomyr | possibly |
| 18:48.34 | Teomyr | my brother enjoys trolling on the forums, with bad spelling and OMGWTFNERF posts on purpose, just for fun |
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| 19:15.01 | ben___ | "API StartDuelUnit" seems to document a function that does not exist. |
| 19:16.01 | Teomyr | no longer, maybe |
| 19:27.45 | ben___ | Do I just remove the link from API? |
| 19:29.47 | Teomyr | no, don't remove it |
| 19:29.58 | ben___ | Why not? It is useless and misleading. |
| 19:30.04 | ben___ | It is not part of the API. |
| 19:30.21 | Teomyr | put a "REMOVED" in front of it in the api function list |
| 19:30.23 | ClydeJr | Might want to create a section for obsolete functions |
| 19:30.35 | ClydeJr | or do that :) |
| 19:30.51 | Teomyr | and there is a category for such functions |
| 19:32.30 | ben___ | I guess that is going to come in useful if Blizzard ever reverts to 14 patches ago |
| 19:34.53 | winkille1 | Teomyr: sorry I didn't respond earlier - but I meant: I have only enGB atm anf some downloaded some slim installer, which won't install deDE |
| 19:37.23 | Teomyr | slim installer? the ELP? |
| 19:44.00 | Teomyr | seems like there is a new version for wow 2.x, which deprecates the ELP for 1.12. do you have the right one? |
| 19:49.27 | Kitan | I am not sure about the elinks quest hob |
| 19:49.30 | winkille1 | ughm, there's only 1 download |
| 19:49.32 | winkille1 | no ELP anymore |
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| 19:49.56 | Kitan | I think they want something at the bottom as well? |
| 19:51.14 | Teomyr | winkiller: the account management still has ELPs for all language versions, i don't know whether they're compatible with BC (or if they're still the old ones for 1.12 and below) |
| 19:51.47 | winkiller | but I don't want an ELP, I want just another install |
| 19:51.57 | winkiller | guess I'll have to install on laptop and copy |
| 19:52.06 | Teomyr | but for that, you will need the deDE mpq files |
| 19:53.35 | winkiller | well, I think I have the installer |
| 19:53.36 | winkiller | or blizz's page is misleading |
| 19:53.49 | Teomyr | well, what's the problem with that installer then? |
| 19:53.49 | Teomyr | <-- slightly confused |
| 19:53.50 | winkiller | it won't install :) |
| 19:54.42 | Teomyr | why? |
| 19:54.46 | winkiller | looks like a check for "already installed" |
| 19:56.47 | Teomyr | the installer says it's already installed? |
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| 20:20.38 | winkiller | nvm, forget it |
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| 21:07.15 | Skyfire | this will be fun |
| 21:26.39 | Kitan | what will be fun? |
| 21:28.38 | Skyfire | making a template :] |
| 21:29.47 | Skyfire | what's a mage's fire armor called? |
| 21:29.49 | Skyfire | :x |
| 21:30.06 | Skyfire | molten armor |
| 21:39.04 | Skyfire | this should be interesting |
| 21:39.26 | Skyfire | hobinheim|Spaace |
| 21:39.45 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | hello |
| 21:39.48 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | oh |
| 21:39.49 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.51 | Hobinheim|SPAACE | not me |
| 21:39.57 | Skyfire | yes, you |
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| 21:40.16 | Hobinheim | sorry trillian is identifying me as something else |
| 21:40.17 | Hobinheim | what's up |
| 21:40.27 | Skyfire | forcetoc literally forces a toc |
| 21:40.36 | Skyfire | on that page, it's used because of bad coding |
| 21:40.39 | Hobinheim | uhh |
| 21:40.52 | Skyfire | check the diff |
| 21:40.59 | Skyfire | there should be two tocs, i think |
| 21:41.15 | Skyfire | could be wrong... |
| 21:41.18 | Skyfire | :X |
| 21:41.33 | Hobinheim | of course there's a time and place for tokens |
| 21:41.37 | Hobinheim | written __LIKETHIS__ |
| 21:41.41 | Hobinheim | but that wasn't a token, it was a template |
| 21:41.53 | Hobinheim | if anything __FORCETOC__ |
| 21:42.31 | Skyfire | no... |
| 21:42.41 | Skyfire | its like tocleft and right.. |
| 21:42.50 | Hobinheim | forcetoc works... |
| 21:43.31 | Hobinheim | tocleft and tocright aren't tokens, they're templates |
| 21:44.47 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:44.49 | Skyfire | nvm |
| 21:45.16 | Hobinheim | just trying to prevent discussions of zealot proportions |
| 21:45.25 | Hobinheim | %20 IS A SPACE KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN |
| 21:45.37 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:45.43 | Hobinheim | were you there for that? |
| 21:45.46 | Teomyr | wtf hax |
| 21:46.05 | Skyfire | yeah, i was here :) |
| 21:46.05 | Hobinheim | trillian says i'm voodoo |
| 21:47.13 | Skyfire | imo, classfooter is going out of style |
| 21:47.35 | Skyfire | say hello to http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Mage v1.0! |
| 21:47.57 | Hobinheim | ugh what |
| 21:48.08 | Hobinheim | that's a bit... =( |
| 21:48.12 | Skyfire | >:) |
| 21:48.30 | Skyfire | a bit?... |
| 21:49.11 | Teomyr | yes, a bit. 7 more and you got a byte! |
| 21:49.19 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:50.52 | Skyfire | aw crud |
| 21:52.06 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 21:55.28 | Skyfire | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:55.47 | Skyfire | it wasn't me |
| 21:55.58 | Teomyr | you no break wiki! |
| 21:57.21 | Skyfire | me no break wiki! |
| 21:57.54 | Skyfire | oh god |
| 21:57.56 | Skyfire | sigh |
| 21:59.20 | Skyfire | hmm |
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| 22:04.32 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:05.14 | Skyfire | ill ask kb later, i think |
| 22:14.08 | Hobinheim | i think that mage template is overkill |
| 22:14.40 | Hobinheim | and if it strikes fear in you at all it's not what i intended with that style of template, originally |
| 22:14.44 | Hobinheim | but i realize that times change |
| 22:17.27 | Skyfire | hmmm |
| 22:18.42 | Skyfire | originally, [my] idea was to make a template just for mage spells. but then i decided to add the top bits, to consolidate mage information |
| 22:19.15 | Skyfire | it was supposed to be able to replace http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Classnav |
| 22:19.17 | Skyfire | :x |
| 22:19.20 | Skyfire | as well* |
| 22:23.44 | Hobinheim | classnav might need some pruning, but i wouldn't change it |
| 22:25.17 | Skyfire | heh |
| 22:25.39 | Skyfire | I'm think that maybe i should just make it for spells... hmm |
| 22:25.50 | Skyfire | classfooter really isn't that helpful :/ |
| 22:27.02 | Hobinheim | just... go easy |
| 22:27.07 | Hobinheim | it's... really easy to go overboard |
| 22:27.14 | Hobinheim | and i'm already starting to regret some of the stuff i've made |
| 22:27.18 | Hobinheim | or some of the things its spawned |
| 22:27.24 | Hobinheim | just cuz we can don't make it a great idea |
| 22:27.34 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:27.37 | Skyfire | yeah |
| 22:27.57 | Hobinheim | think..usefulness |
| 22:28.01 | Hobinheim | and not comprehensiveness |
| 22:28.11 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 22:28.22 | Skyfire | btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ROUGE |
| 22:29.01 | Skyfire | I guess wikipedia people can have fun :D |
| 23:04.30 | Skyfire | Hobinheim |
| 23:04.41 | Skyfire | or Tekkub |
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| 23:40.53 | erfg | hey |
| 23:41.13 | erfg | whats new |
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| 23:42.26 | Owenxx | hey |
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| 23:43.01 | Skyfire | o_0 |
