| 00:08.03 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Fel_orc |
| 00:35.56 | kaso | Hey Kirkburn|afk, i know you're not really afk, you're just doing that so you can have more wii time! |
| 00:36.16 | Kirkburn|afk | infobot, stab kaso |
| 00:36.27 | infobot | ACTION runs at kaso with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 00:36.27 | kaso | ha! ha! |
| 00:36.28 | kaso | you fail |
| 00:36.31 | kaso | oh damnit |
| 00:36.35 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 00:37.01 | kaso | I wanna show off my bot i'm playing around with |
| 00:37.05 | kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaso/BotTest ! |
| 00:37.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Oooh, another bot?! |
| 00:37.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, heya |
| 00:38.17 | kaso | I had a boring weekend and i wanted to play with lua socket :> |
| 00:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | We need all the bots we can get |
| 00:38.54 | kaso | i though i could mass create new item pages, or replace tooltipcss on old ones |
| 00:39.05 | Bagginsww | hi |
| 00:39.26 | Kirkburn|afk | I liek big bots and I cannot lie? |
| 00:39.30 | kaso | Hahaha |
| 00:39.33 | kaso | that is awesome |
| 00:40.09 | kaso | i'm impressed |
| 00:40.25 | Kirkburn|afk | I decided to go with a cultural reference, but there were other options |
| 00:40.37 | Kirkburn|afk | "I'd like to take a look at your bot" |
| 00:40.43 | Kirkburn|afk | "My, you have a nice bot" |
| 00:41.11 | Kirkburn|afk | "let's all check out kaso's bot" |
| 00:42.00 | Bagginsww | yep chaos orcs are limited to faction of orcs that drank from 'chaos well' |
| 00:42.14 | Kirkburn|afk | That makes it simpler at least |
| 00:42.15 | Bagginsww | in Reign of Chaos |
| 00:42.26 | Bagginsww | all orcs in TFT and beyond are fel orcs |
| 00:43.07 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, when/if you finalise your bot or whatever, make a new account for it, like "KasoBot". It can be flagged as a bot account and the edits it makes won't show in the RC list by default |
| 00:43.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I should really get around to playing TFT |
| 00:45.51 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fel_orc#Chaos_Orcs |
| 00:45.54 | Bagginsww | minor edits to chaos orcs portion |
| 00:46.11 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-45-113.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:46.12 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 00:46.19 | Adys | helloes |
| 00:46.21 | Bagginsww | we could probably seperate chaos orcs to its own article. |
| 00:46.27 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk is there some procedure for discussing/approving large-reaching bot-edits before i go setting it edit a few hundred pages, or whatever |
| 00:46.27 | Bagginsww | there is enough history for it |
| 00:46.52 | Adys | Kaso: irc is usually enough for that |
| 00:47.21 | kaso | Hokay sounds fair enough. |
| 00:47.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Adys! |
| 00:47.37 | Adys | hello love :) |
| 00:47.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah we need to know it's working properly before you go crazy kaso :P |
| 00:47.59 | kaso | ofc ofc |
| 00:48.08 | kaso | ill check up with you before it let it out into the wild |
| 00:48.18 | Adys | Watchout bot has been running I see |
| 00:48.20 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o sancus] by ChanServ |
| 00:48.21 | Adys | awesomeness :) |
| 00:48.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, not sure about saying they're 'infected' with the blood, more 'infused'? |
| 00:49.21 | Kirkburn|afk | That's a point ... /me goes to check out the bot edits |
| 00:49.25 | Bagginsww | ahh was using mannaroth's discription LOL |
| 00:49.53 | Adys | he did == External Links == {{elinks-item|blah}} |
| 00:50.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah |
| 00:50.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, I'm not really bothered |
| 00:50.48 | Adys | most has been done thats the thing |
| 00:50.55 | Kirkburn|afk | The simplest solution is often the best |
| 00:51.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Templates within templates it just confusing to page makers |
| 00:51.30 | Bagginsww | we can probably put chaos well on the list of ashenvale subregions |
| 00:51.40 | Kirkburn|afk | We could have a bot run afterwars to change all "External Links" to "External links" |
| 00:51.48 | Adys | nah |
| 00:51.52 | Adys | it should have been |
| 00:52.03 | Adys | {{elinks|links={{elinks-item|1234}}}} |
| 00:52.19 | Adys | but he couldnt know since no one precised in bot requests and I was away :P |
| 00:55.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I thought I mentioned it to him, but I also said I wasn't really bothered |
| 00:56.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Since when is anything both an item, NPC and/or spell anyway? :) |
| 00:56.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Congratulations, you have bought the Wrathhammer from Mr. Wrathhammer in Wrathhammer. |
| 00:57.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Would you like to Wrathhammer someone? |
| 00:57.32 | Kirkburn|afk | No, but I would like some of that delightful Wrathhammer you have back there, it smells delicious |
| 00:57.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Sorry, but we only sell that to Wrathhammers |
| 00:58.03 | Adys | wth |
| 00:58.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Basically I'm saying I have no idea what the point of the elinks bit is :) |
| 00:59.01 | TimmyNet2 | o.O |
| 00:59.10 | Adys | "{{elinks}}" adds == External links == |
| 00:59.14 | Adys | and some other stuff |
| 00:59.16 | Adys | no in fact |
| 00:59.21 | Adys | i have no idea either |
| 00:59.54 | Kirkburn|afk | We can't even ask the template author |
| 01:00.27 | Kirkburn|afk | If you didn't know, Zeal left |
| 01:02.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, I just saw an interesting quote from Drysc |
| 01:02.06 | Kirkburn|afk | "As far as we know Outland is the only habitable piece of landmass left of Draenor. Emphasis on 'As far as we know', of course. |
| 01:02.06 | Kirkburn|afk | " |
| 01:02.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Essentially he's saying "we are not alone", I guess :P |
| 01:02.51 | Bagginsww | :) |
| 01:03.01 | Bagginsww | ya, there were other minor islands in TFT |
| 01:03.18 | Bagginsww | some that are supposed to be connected by chains |
| 01:03.39 | Bagginsww | ya I know Zeal left. |
| 01:03.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Deathwing's island and the Warsong one too, no? |
| 01:04.06 | Bagginsww | ya those would be neat to visit |
| 01:05.26 | Bagginsww | I'd like to sea land of netherstorm before it was the netherstorm |
| 01:06.08 | Bagginsww | back when the Fields of Farahlon |
| 01:06.13 | Kirkburn|afk | CoT ftw :P |
| 01:06.13 | Bagginsww | *it was |
| 01:06.16 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 01:06.32 | Bagginsww | although I think cavern's of time should be utalized for more than just "dungeons" :) |
| 01:06.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Though, that may be planet centric |
| 01:06.51 | Bagginsww | it was fields only few years ago |
| 01:07.08 | Bagginsww | blood elves turned it into what is now |
| 01:08.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Here's hoping Nozdormu can planet hop? |
| 01:08.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Or ... perhaps he already has! |
| 01:08.14 | Kirkburn|afk | ooooh |
| 01:08.16 | Kirkburn|afk | :P |
| 01:13.41 | Adys | :D |
| 01:13.46 | Adys | So happy |
| 01:13.49 | Adys | to be home =) |
| 01:14.58 | Bagginsww | "Moonglade Isle" |
| 01:15.11 | Bagginsww | there's a another area to add to "moonglade" sub-regions |
| 01:15.48 | Bagginsww | well ya one of the battlegrounds they were going to do was Hellfire Penninsula during WC2 era heh heh |
| 01:15.55 | Bagginsww | too bad it was cancelled |
| 01:16.22 | Bagginsww | Its unfortunate that Theramore Isle doesn't have "Theramore harbor" |
| 01:16.25 | Bagginsww | in WoW |
| 01:16.32 | Bagginsww | I mean the huge gated part of the city. |
| 01:17.11 | Bagginsww | major plot point in orc campaign in TFT |
| 01:17.36 | Bagginsww | heros get locked up behind the gates, and have to unlock them |
| 01:17.41 | Bagginsww | so they can sail out |
| 01:20.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Moonglade Isle!? |
| 01:22.39 | watchout | hey, are you ranting about my precious bot? |
| 01:23.01 | Adys | hey watchout :D |
| 01:23.17 | Adys | awesome work :) |
| 01:23.23 | watchout | :P |
| 01:23.44 | watchout | It bitched around pretty much though... |
| 01:24.22 | watchout | and I still don't know why - some pages just didn't work and I had to manually edit them... |
| 01:24.47 | watchout | luckily only about 20 out of 7,000 or so |
| 01:25.28 | Bagginsww | ya it was mentioned during a mission |
| 01:25.44 | Bagginsww | malfurion tells you to fleel to it |
| 01:25.47 | Bagginsww | *flee |
| 01:25.56 | Bagginsww | I'll make an article about it later |
| 01:26.05 | Bagginsww | doing homework now |
| 01:28.17 | Bagginsww | other articles I haven't seen on wowwiki are the various night elf factions mentioned in the game |
| 01:28.32 | Bagginsww | like nightblades, for example |
| 01:29.00 | watchout | I thought youre doing homework now? |
| 01:29.24 | Bagginsww | well reading :P |
| 01:29.35 | Bagginsww | about a page until finished |
| 01:29.54 | Bagginsww | then a couple of pages of writing :p |
| 01:30.29 | watchout | well if you keep it up, you'll be done with the 'couple pages of writing before you finished the reading |
| 01:31.03 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 01:32.43 | winkiller | anyone who can explain that whole Kael'thas thing to me? I just don't get it why Blood Elves are playable and Kael'thas is the boss of an instance.. |
| 01:36.14 | watchout | playable Blood Elves split from Kael'thas afaik |
| 01:36.14 | watchout | as did the scryers |
| 01:36.14 | bleetah | erm, was it in here someone was asking about a tool to convert Wiki format to other formats a day or so ago? if so, perl:Text:WikiFormat is your friend. |
| 01:37.05 | watchout | there are various im/exporting plugins/hacks/tools for mediawiki |
| 01:37.35 | watchout | including, pdf, .xls, .doc exporters |
| 01:37.37 | bleetah | but do they have the power of perl! mwhwhahahahahaha! :P |
| 01:37.45 | watchout | perl sucks |
| 01:37.58 | bleetah | most things do |
| 01:38.02 | watchout | ofc |
| 01:38.23 | watchout | but then, you can always say something sucks :) |
| 01:38.42 | bleetah | i do! :-) |
| 01:39.04 | watchout | like "mondays suck", "Life sucks", ... or even bleetah sucks |
| 01:39.17 | watchout | which I wouldn't say ofc |
| 01:39.19 | bleetah | those may be true |
| 01:39.26 | bleetah | but not sa much as you suck! :-P |
| 01:39.28 | bleetah | j/k |
| 01:40.04 | watchout | sure, I suck, but my bot edits out all evidence :D |
| 01:40.31 | bleetah | so.. your bot sucks too? |
| 01:40.39 | bleetah | (sucks up the evidence) :P |
| 01:40.46 | watchout | yeah |
| 01:41.01 | watchout | you got it |
| 01:41.41 | watchout | Adys, |
| 01:41.46 | Adys | mm? |
| 01:41.59 | watchout | wow you really respond :D |
| 01:42.11 | Adys | lol |
| 01:42.13 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 01:42.19 | watchout | you got another job for my sucking bot? |
| 01:42.24 | Adys | hm |
| 01:42.44 | Adys | you checked http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests ? |
| 01:43.04 | watchout | yeah but I keep forgetting whats written there :D |
| 01:43.12 | Adys | :P |
| 01:43.33 | watchout | no, hobinheim meant he does the bc stuff |
| 01:43.54 | Adys | I quite wanted the Deprecate {{AB Mark}} / {{AV Mark}} / {{WSG Mark}} for {{Alt Currency}} |
| 01:43.55 | watchout | AB/AV/etc marks are questioned |
| 01:44.02 | Adys | by who? |
| 01:44.24 | Adys | if its fandy i actually know he question this stuff |
| 01:44.26 | watchout | I can't remember, I just read a discussion about it |
| 01:44.45 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Alt_Currency |
| 01:44.49 | Adys | This template desperately needs usage info... and why does it use a table? Not a good replacement for {{AB Mark}}, {{AV Mark}}, or {{WSG Mark}} templates. |
| 01:44.57 | Adys | (Fandyllic) |
| 01:44.59 | watchout | yeah exactly |
| 01:45.16 | Adys | its actually a good replacement but it does lack doc |
| 01:45.23 | Adys | you know how it works? |
| 01:45.24 | watchout | I see |
| 01:45.40 | watchout | we would have to edit the template though |
| 01:45.46 | Adys | How comes? |
| 01:46.12 | Bagginsww | there isn't a specific split at least at first |
| 01:46.27 | Bagginsww | basically blood elves that are playable |
| 01:46.31 | Bagginsww | are those that were left behind |
| 01:46.32 | watchout | let me check before I tell you BS |
| 01:46.47 | Bagginsww | when blood elves left for outland in TFT |
| 01:47.08 | Bagginsww | later Kael'thas sent an emissary back to them |
| 01:47.23 | Bagginsww | along with that Naaru |
| 01:47.29 | Bagginsww | wanting them to join them. |
| 01:48.18 | Bagginsww | but as you level you find out how evil outland BEs have become |
| 01:48.35 | Bagginsww | ultimatlely leads to quests were you have to kill outland blood elves for the Horde |
| 01:48.55 | watchout | Adys, the table has to get out of there, usage info MUST be in the template BEFORE I add the template to 1000's new pages |
| 01:49.11 | Adys | uhm? |
| 01:49.24 | Bagginsww | as for how those BE joined the horde, it was partly from a suggestion by Sylvannas and Forsaken. |
| 01:49.34 | watchout | or do you like killing the wiki ;) |
| 01:49.57 | Adys | What "table" exactly? |
| 01:50.11 | watchout | check the source |
| 01:50.39 | watchout | I think it was added for vertical alignment |
| 01:50.40 | Adys | ooh |
| 01:50.44 | Adys | dont worry about it |
| 01:50.52 | Adys | editing popular template doesnt crash the wiki anymore |
| 01:51.01 | Adys | since we removed the Exists stuff |
| 01:51.25 | Bagginsww | ahh a few more days until Ghostlands is released? |
| 01:51.38 | watchout | um, thats why editing the aldor vs scryer stuff kills it instantly? |
| 01:51.55 | Adys | What do you mean? oO |
| 01:52.39 | watchout | http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards |
| 01:52.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, editing popular still annoys the wiki, but not as much as before |
| 01:52.58 | Adys | it shouldnt kill it |
| 01:53.11 | watchout | it did |
| 01:53.21 | Adys | odd |
| 01:53.34 | watchout | IMO the job queue is buggy |
| 01:54.04 | Adys | Right, will wait for zeal to take a decision about Alt Currency |
| 01:54.12 | Adys | btw watchout |
| 01:54.12 | watchout | Kirkburn|afk, you mean not as long huh? |
| 01:54.31 | Adys | What I was saying earlier on is |
| 01:54.45 | Adys | The elinks-xxx stuff works that way: |
| 01:54.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys ... "<Kirkburn|afk> If you didn't know, Zeal left" |
| 01:55.08 | Adys | aah |
| 01:55.27 | Adys | Too bad then I guess |
| 01:55.35 | Adys | Ill wait for tekkub then oO |
| 01:55.40 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 01:55.52 | Adys | anyways the elinks stuff |
| 01:55.57 | Adys | {{elinks|links={{elinks-NPC/item/...}}}} |
| 01:56.07 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinks |
| 01:56.32 | watchout | did he leave because people didn't like his template signing? |
| 01:56.40 | Adys | many reasons |
| 01:56.51 | watchout | Adys, but TBH that sucks |
| 01:56.55 | Adys | he's overdoing his stuff Im not surprised he got pissed |
| 01:57.11 | Adys | too bad tho because he's a great guy and editor in general :P |
| 01:57.45 | Adys | watchout: it's to allow "flexibility" |
| 01:57.59 | watchout | um... how come? |
| 01:58.14 | Adys | be able to link twice two different items for example |
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| 01:58.29 | Adys | speaking of the devil |
| 01:58.32 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Head_of_Onyxia |
| 01:58.43 | Adys | if you want you can link the horde and alliance version, Ill show you |
| 01:58.54 | watchout | on what kind of weird article would I place external items *and* extarnal npc without the option of putting a decription to it |
| 01:59.13 | Adys | npc and item is a bad example |
| 01:59.37 | watchout | well, but its just that :D |
| 01:59.49 | watchout | and it breaks the header-edit-link |
| 02:00.44 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Head_of_Onyxia check now |
| 02:00.54 | Adys | personally, I don't really like the fact it's harder to actually put up an external link |
| 02:00.55 | watchout | yessir! |
| 02:01.00 | Adys | but if its more flexible, why not |
| 02:01.53 | watchout | you know, you can do it with less gibberish too |
| 02:02.18 | Adys | Not me who made the template :P |
| 02:02.26 | Adys | I mean, I'm fine with it |
| 02:02.33 | Adys | theres been a great job done with the elinks stuff |
| 02:02.40 | watchout | ==External Links== |
| 02:02.40 | watchout | ;Horde version |
| 02:02.40 | watchout | {{elinks-item|18422}} |
| 02:02.40 | watchout | ;Alliance version |
| 02:02.40 | watchout | {{elinks-item|18423}} |
| 02:02.56 | watchout | same thing, you can actually read it |
| 02:03.16 | Adys | aye true :P |
| 02:03.23 | Adys | anyways, shall see later for that tbh |
| 02:03.26 | Adys | Tekkub! |
| 02:03.29 | Adys | We need you |
| 02:03.32 | watchout | sure |
| 02:04.18 | Adys | watchout: explain tekkub the prob when hes back I gotta do something ill be back in 5-10 |
| 02:04.25 | watchout | I think I talked with Tekkub about that already and he was the one suggesting the way I did it |
| 02:04.35 | Adys | Then, go ahead :) |
| 02:04.36 | watchout | I may be mixing up names though |
| 02:05.07 | winkiller | ah thanks Bagginsww |
| 02:05.22 | watchout | go ahead doing what? :D |
| 02:05.32 | Adys | go ahead and edit at will :P |
| 02:05.44 | watchout | doing that anyway :D |
| 02:05.57 | Bagginsww | np |
| 02:06.40 | Tekkub | what's your issue? |
| 02:06.58 | watchout | teh ownage! |
| 02:07.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Christ, my housemates GC memory is stuck in my Wii |
| 02:08.00 | Kirkburn|afk | And I mean seriuosly /stuck/ |
| 02:08.01 | watchout | no, did we talk about the headings of the external links and whether to add the {{elinks}} template or not? |
| 02:08.56 | watchout | well... take a welding machine and cut it out |
| 02:09.04 | Tekkub | I won't use the elinks template, it's useless |
| 02:09.58 | watchout | ah, Tekkub ok we talked :) |
| 02:09.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Glad to see you agree with me Tek :) |
| 02:09.58 | winkiller | why useless? |
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| 02:09.58 | Tekkub | yes well *someone* isn't here to insist it's needed because he's right |
| 02:10.08 | watchout | just was about to say "because it sucks" but I won't say it.. |
| 02:10.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm going to repost something I typed earlier ... |
| 02:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | <Kirkburn|afk> Since when is anything both an item, NPC and/or spell anyway? :) |
| 02:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | <Kirkburn|afk> Congratulations, you have bought the Wrathhammer from Mr. Wrathhammer in Wrathhammer. |
| 02:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | <Kirkburn|afk> Would you like to Wrathhammer someone? |
| 02:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | <Kirkburn|afk> No, but I would like some of that delightful Wrathhammer you have back there, it smells delicious |
| 02:10.13 | Kirkburn|afk | <Kirkburn|afk> Sorry, but we only sell that to Wrathhammers |
| 02:10.38 | Kirkburn|afk | As you can tell, I was bored |
| 02:10.53 | watchout | Kirkburn|afk, did you talk with Adys then? |
| 02:11.01 | Adys | LOL |
| 02:11.18 | Kirkburn|afk | <Adys> wth |
| 02:11.22 | Kirkburn|afk | That was the next line |
| 02:11.27 | watchout | that woul explain why he was a bit disappointed by my reasoning ;P |
| 02:11.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Yay, the mem card is out of the Wii! |
| 02:12.10 | watchout | did you burn it out? |
| 02:12.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Seriously, if you don't do it in some exact twisty squeezy method, a weightlifter would have problems with it |
| 02:12.47 | watchout | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.00 | watchout | that was mine, Kirkburn|afk |
| 02:13.03 | Tekkub | kirk also has issues with his perscription bottles |
| 02:13.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Pushed it down then squeezed the sides whilst pulling it out |
| 02:13.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm serious, I had to go searching for solutions to the stuck mem card problem |
| 02:13.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Silly 3rd party stuff |
| 02:14.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Now to try it in the other mem card slot =) |
| 02:14.58 | watchout | maybe put it in the freezer first :P |
| 02:15.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not trying to overclock it :P |
| 02:15.43 | watchout | rofl |
| 02:15.56 | watchout | no, but colder means it's a bit smaller ;) |
| 02:16.03 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: to paraphrase Zaphod.. 'threaten to reprogram your Wii with a very large hammer'... it worked for him ;) |
| 02:16.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, what did you do to hyperChipmunk? |
| 02:16.38 | Tekkub | what's with hC? |
| 02:16.41 | Tekkub | he chittering? |
| 02:16.50 | Kirkburn|afk | He kicking your ass more like |
| 02:17.02 | Tekkub | *shrug* like I care |
| 02:17.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you get beaten up my squirrels in a past life? |
| 02:17.23 | Kirkburn|afk | *by |
| 02:17.48 | Tekkub | meh |
| 02:17.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently he "owed you one" =) |
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| 02:20.52 | watchout | I'm watching one last episode BS:G ;P |
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| 02:32.28 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18408 |
| 02:32.29 | Tekkub | lol |
| 02:36.09 | bleetah | aye, kept me giggling for hours that one :) |
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| 03:08.21 | Hobinheim | paging kirkburn |
| 03:08.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Yarrrg |
| 03:08.59 | Hobinheim | zeal is the new silverside |
| 03:09.48 | bleetah | wowwiki's got a problem |
| 03:09.57 | Hobinheim | ruh roh |
| 03:09.59 | Hobinheim | what its it |
| 03:10.05 | bleetah | dunno.. gone now |
| 03:10.13 | bleetah | was happening for about 30secs.. |
| 03:10.28 | bleetah | how long should I let a 'has a problem' occur before I mention it in here? |
| 03:10.47 | Hobinheim | however long you feel like |
| 03:14.09 | Adys | Hobinheim: zeal is not like silversde |
| 03:14.10 | Adys | side* |
| 03:14.22 | Hobinheim | i don't even know what ss did, haha |
| 03:14.31 | Adys | Silverside was not actually being exactly useful on the end |
| 03:14.39 | Adys | zeal did a shitload of good stuff |
| 03:14.39 | Hobinheim | btw, does anybody know a nice, slick 2007 solution to sending tek a file |
| 03:14.57 | Tekkub | a 37MiB file |
| 03:15.09 | Tekkub | of furry bear porn, hob is a naughty naughty cub |
| 03:15.12 | Hobinheim | zeal did a good load of shit stuff |
| 03:15.30 | Hobinheim | ... |
| 03:16.02 | Adys | Dont be bad with him |
| 03:16.05 | Adys | he has |
| 03:16.18 | Adys | he's just too pissy and nervous thats too bad |
| 03:19.23 | Adys | brb miranda crashing |
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| 03:41.44 | Kirkburn|afk | If I wanted to send someone a 37MB file, I'd use my online webspace |
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| 03:42.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, is there such a thing as non-furry bear porn? |
| 03:42.19 | Kirkburn|afk | jellisii, having problems? |
| 03:42.41 | Tekkub | no clue kirky, but hob's not willing to use a split-rar and email the chunks |
| 03:42.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, Zeal did remind me of SS a bit, but at least we had some control over Zeal |
| 03:42.44 | jellisii | Been so long since I've used freenode, I had to remember my pw. |
| 03:42.49 | Tekkub | he wants some modern solution |
| 03:43.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, I'm using your name in this line because I've done others for the last 3 lines I wrote |
| 03:43.14 | Hobinheim | yes.. a modern way of sending files that doesn't suck |
| 03:43.17 | Hobinheim | aim sucks, yahoos ucks |
| 03:43.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirkburn|afk, go play on your Wii |
| 03:43.31 | Hobinheim | i'm using azureus and tek refuses to use az |
| 03:43.35 | Tekkub | kirk, give your wii a rest |
| 03:43.36 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn|afk, talking to yourself, are we? |
| 03:43.38 | Tekkub | you'll rub it raw |
| 03:43.41 | Hobinheim | ... |
| 03:43.48 | jellisii | I just had some questions about WowWiki, specifically, the tempate namespace. |
| 03:43.51 | Kirkburn|afk | But it's so much fun! |
| 03:44.00 | Hobinheim | jellisii, shoot |
| 03:44.10 | Kirkburn|afk | At least your not telling me to shoot |
| 03:44.18 | Kirkburn|afk | ... did I take it too far? |
| 03:44.25 | Kirkburn|afk | I think I did. |
| 03:44.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd better go play on my Wii. |
| 03:44.37 | Tekkub | kirk |
| 03:44.41 | Tekkub | I have one thing to say |
| 03:44.41 | Tekkub | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=227 |
| 03:45.14 | jellisii | well, it seems somewhat inconsistant at times. The one that I've run up on is the following: stub/Item/BC works, stub/Item/bc fails, but the BC header template is {{bc}} |
| 03:45.25 | Hobinheim | lol is that the one with the donkey punch |
| 03:45.32 | Tekkub | yes hob |
| 03:45.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Yup, Hob |
| 03:45.38 | Hobinheim | case sensitive |
| 03:45.40 | jellisii | Didn't know if that was by design, or just evolution in process. |
| 03:45.41 | Hobinheim | i love that, haha |
| 03:45.42 | Tekkub | jell, consistant? ya |
| 03:45.49 | Hobinheim | the donkey dude is so just. this is how you do i! |
| 03:45.53 | Kirkburn|afk | I think we should be getting rid of Stub/Item/BC anyway |
| 03:45.55 | Tekkub | make redirect templates to solve your troubles |
| 03:45.57 | Hobinheim | then the smoker, LOL |
| 03:47.01 | Kirkburn|afk | I have to say, certain Wii game do make you feel slightly embrassed about what movements your making |
| 03:47.05 | Kirkburn|afk | *you're |
| 03:47.18 | Tekkub | you maybe |
| 03:47.23 | Hobinheim | straping young lads have no need for embarassment |
| 03:47.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, I'm strapping |
| 03:47.35 | Hobinheim | people should just like... loosen up |
| 03:47.41 | jellisii | Yeah, that. I don't have a problem with the Case Sensitivity, that's a goodthing(tm). I was just curious about the difference between the stub template and the bc template. If it's going away anyway, it's not going to be a problem anyway. :D |
| 03:47.45 | Hobinheim | even if we're doing ... the big cheese, which i still don't know what it is |
| 03:47.56 | Hobinheim | i play wii tennis and i feel like i'm going to throw out my arm |
| 03:48.02 | Hobinheim | and let me tell you light hockey is INTENSE! |
| 03:48.04 | Hobinheim | watch OUT, son |
| 03:48.07 | Hobinheim | watch OUT |
| 03:48.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, oh come now, it's my controller. Emphasis on my ... |
| 03:48.31 | Tekkub | it does vibrate, no? |
| 03:48.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Or are you naturally accustomed to audiences? |
| 03:48.55 | Kirkburn|afk | It does indeed |
| 03:49.06 | Hobinheim | lol the donkey punch guy is priceless, who's he punching! LOL |
| 03:49.33 | Kirkburn|afk | ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_punch ) |
| 03:49.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I had to look it up, I'm far too innocent |
| 03:50.17 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn|afk, you're in uni. all of you should be talking about these things all the time |
| 03:50.22 | Hobinheim | unless it's a strictly yankee technique |
| 03:50.47 | Kirkburn|afk | It's ... not my style? |
| 03:51.02 | Hobinheim | strictly vanilla |
| 03:51.09 | Hobinheim | let's hear a nice story about bridges... |
| 03:51.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Um, okay? |
| 03:52.07 | Hobinheim | god i hate when people are such prudes |
| 03:52.14 | Hobinheim | "so, are you like... you know..." |
| 03:52.26 | Hobinheim | yes you faggot i'm gay, god, learn to speak english... |
| 03:52.31 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 03:52.32 | Hobinheim | "so did you guys like..." |
| 03:52.38 | Hobinheim | yes we fucked each other, repeatedly, like bunnies |
| 03:52.51 | Hobinheim | "omg i don't want to move my hips that's embarassing" |
| 03:52.56 | Hobinheim | IT'S A VIDEO GAME YOU PRUDE |
| 03:53.02 | Hobinheim | sheesh |
| 03:53.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Scary Hob |
| 03:53.51 | Kirkburn|afk | A gay guy once had a crush on me :P |
| 03:53.57 | Hobinheim | i'm actually getting tired of wow right now.. |
| 03:54.07 | Hobinheim | still level 20... not helping the goons at all... |
| 03:54.16 | Hobinheim | not really sensing the difference betweeen affliction and destro yt |
| 03:54.21 | Hobinheim | other than that i have shadowburn |
| 03:54.26 | Kirkburn|afk | That's cause you should be demo |
| 03:54.33 | Hobinheim | and that a voidwalker is useless for chaining until he has consume shadows |
| 03:54.39 | Hobinheim | my demo lock is getting zero love from me |
| 03:54.52 | Hobinheim | it's losing it's magic. it's all the same |
| 03:54.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Useless |
| 03:55.00 | Hobinheim | and writing my circuit guide is teeeeeedious |
| 03:55.30 | Hobinheim | heh the goons were talking about "specs that make you wanna cry" |
| 03:55.38 | Hobinheim | someone specced 41 demo w/o mana feed |
| 03:55.51 | Hobinheim | like i see that there's knowledge/tactics or whatever, but that's why you go 44 for mana feed |
| 03:59.13 | Hobinheim | tek's not responding |
| 03:59.22 | Hobinheim | bleh |
| 04:00.41 | Hobinheim | btw Kirkburn|afk, that BC template is a biotch |
| 04:00.44 | Hobinheim | hardly bottable |
| 04:00.47 | Hobinheim | i mean, it is... sort of |
| 04:00.53 | Hobinheim | but there are so many exceptions and weird syntax things |
| 04:00.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Make up your mind! |
| 04:01.06 | Hobinheim | i'm afraid that if i let it loose we'll find another case where the bot didn't do a good enough job |
| 04:01.32 | Kirkburn|afk | The main stuff that needs doing is just moving the template to first on any page it's on |
| 04:01.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't think there are many cases where a bc should be a bc-section, so I wouldn't worry too much about that |
| 04:02.02 | Kirkburn|afk | (atm) |
| 04:02.24 | Hobinheim | there are some. cuz i don't want to tag an entire page bc when it doesn't need to be |
| 04:02.32 | Hobinheim | eh the idea is messy to begin with |
| 04:02.36 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 04:02.58 | Hobinheim | editing makes me tired. or reading e-mail |
| 04:03.03 | Hobinheim | SO much stuff to do |
| 04:03.54 | Kirkburn|afk | It's all that bunny sex |
| 04:04.12 | Hobinheim | dammit tek why don't you install az like normal people we we can just p2p it |
| 04:04.39 | Tekkub | why can't you make a simple torrent so any torrent program can xfer |
| 04:04.48 | Hobinheim | give me a tracker! |
| 04:04.53 | Tekkub | instead of using a proprietary locator :P |
| 04:04.57 | Hobinheim | i don't even know how trackers work |
| 04:04.59 | Tekkub | az has a tracker in it |
| 04:05.59 | Hobinheim | i can make a tracker out of myself? |
| 04:07.29 | Kirkburn|afk | You want to torrent a single file transfer? |
| 04:07.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Sounds crazy to me :) |
| 04:07.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Rapidshare.de? |
| 04:11.09 | Hobinheim | milli vanilli is playing =) |
| 04:11.14 | Hobinheim | yes you know its true, oo oo oo, i love you |
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| 04:44.29 | Skosiris | Hey |
| 04:45.05 | Skosiris | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quality |
| 04:45.13 | Skosiris | Just wanted to point out that Artifact items should be Gold, not Red :) |
| 04:50.01 | ggilbert | Where does gold come from? |
| 04:53.26 | Skosiris | it's the current color for Artifact items in the game's data files |
| 04:53.44 | Skosiris | as you can see in this screenshot: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.192#19307 |
| 05:06.59 | Tekkub | aye, it's in the game's color table |
| 05:21.20 | Kirkburn|afk | The WoW website says it's red |
| 05:22.45 | ggilbert | The WoW website seems to indicate no color has been chosen yet, at least according to the link included in the page |
| 05:22.57 | ggilbert | though that's the european site |
| 05:22.59 | Kirkburn|afk | What, you chose the one that says "it appears to be out of date"? |
| 05:23.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Rather than the one just before it? :P |
| 05:23.29 | Tekkub | the color is in the game client, I can get you the hex if you want it |
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| 05:26.50 | Pyrrhus | Sup all |
| 05:26.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Hullo |
| 05:27.28 | Pyrrhus | How's everyone doing/ |
| 05:27.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I think we use Red because it's easiest |
| 05:27.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I should be working, I'm not, so all is good here :P |
| 05:27.56 | Tekkub | what do "we use" red for? |
| 05:28.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Artifacts? :P |
| 05:29.14 | Tekkub | which are what items again? |
| 05:29.20 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 05:29.23 | Kirkburn|afk | 4 actually |
| 05:29.32 | Kirkburn|afk | [Martin Thunder] |
| 05:29.34 | Tekkub | blah blah GM gear |
| 05:29.39 | Kirkburn|afk | And the 3 parts of the Twin Blades |
| 05:29.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, you asked! |
| 05:30.02 | Tekkub | well my point is, are they in-game :P |
| 05:30.15 | Kirkburn|afk | WoW EU says undecided, WoW NA says red, game says Gold |
| 05:30.19 | Tekkub | or just things people mine out of the files |
| 05:30.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Gold is v close to orange so unlikely |
| 05:30.41 | Kirkburn|afk | They exist |
| 05:30.45 | Tekkub | I say again, it's what's already coded into the client :) |
| 05:30.46 | Kirkburn|afk | GMs can get them |
| 05:31.27 | Kirkburn|afk | The client can be wrong :O |
| 05:31.45 | Tekkub | so ask a GM to show you, explain who you are and that you need confirmation :) |
| 05:32.04 | Tekkub | hell ask slow ken |
| 05:32.34 | Tekkub | so I got a stupid guildie good today |
| 05:32.43 | Tekkub | "What level is Grim Batol" |
| 05:32.48 | Pyrrhus | >.< |
| 05:32.56 | Tekkub | I says "ask the red dragons outside" |
| 05:33.00 | Tekkub | 10min later.... |
| 05:33.02 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 05:33.12 | Tekkub | "I asked the dragons, they said I was too low" |
| 05:33.25 | Pyrrhus | .... |
| 05:34.05 | Pyrrhus | <<< Tries to remember who Grim is.. |
| 05:35.12 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Grim_Batol |
| 05:43.14 | Skosiris | "<Kirkburn|afk> WoW EU says undecided, WoW NA says red, game says Gold" |
| 05:43.18 | Skosiris | what is WoW NA? |
| 05:43.23 | Kirkburn|afk | North America |
| 05:43.42 | Skosiris | kk |
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| 06:18.37 | Skyfire | Hellooooooooooo |
| 06:20.46 | Skosiris | hey Sky :) |
| 06:21.50 | Skyfire | evening :] |
| 06:43.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently I have been immortalised on bash - http://www.bash.org/?729963 |
| 06:49.48 | Skyfire | are you sure that's you? :x |
| 06:50.08 | Skyfire | in any case, that's a funny comment |
| 06:52.56 | Kirkburn|afk | It's me |
| 06:53.01 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm the only Kirkburn :) |
| 06:58.57 | bleetah | thank goodness. imagine if there was more than one :-s |
| 06:59.53 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 07:01.41 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: tho, I must say.. a look at the google search returns on my IRC nick gives more accurate responses than it does for yours :P |
| 07:02.12 | bleetah | some crap about a sword? |
| 07:02.23 | bleetah | and Yorkshire! |
| 07:03.18 | Skyfire | lol!\ |
| 07:04.57 | Skyfire | ok... time for some ppl to die i think |
| 07:05.15 | Pyrrhus | *laugh :) |
| 07:06.02 | Skyfire | no, really. http://www.wowwiki.com/Bindings_of_the_Timewalker was created 20 minutes ago... when we have a boilerplate... argh |
| 07:06.09 | Skyfire | people are stupid |
| 07:41.06 | Bagginsww | finished with homework, and tonights raiding :p |
| 07:41.19 | Pyrrhus | Bagginsww: what ya raid? |
| 07:41.40 | Bagginsww | KZ |
| 07:41.51 | Bagginsww | still stuck on Shade of Aran |
| 07:41.54 | Pyrrhus | how you guys do? |
| 07:41.59 | Pyrrhus | meh not to hard :) |
| 07:42.10 | Pyrrhus | blizz goes clockwise.. just watch it |
| 07:42.11 | Bagginsww | well we got part where he spawns the water elementals |
| 07:42.19 | Bagginsww | and he put up a ring of fire |
| 07:42.21 | Pyrrhus | nuke em / fear em :) |
| 07:42.23 | Pyrrhus | oh lol |
| 07:42.25 | Bagginsww | and someone accidnelty moved |
| 07:42.32 | Bagginsww | boom |
| 07:42.40 | Pyrrhus | yea fight is not bad if people pay attention :) |
| 07:42.51 | Pyrrhus | funny.. my first kill |
| 07:42.52 | Tekkub | I hear snake traps are fun with the fire |
| 07:42.54 | Pyrrhus | was the only mage.. |
| 07:43.01 | Pyrrhus | he dropped both boots and wand for me :) |
| 07:43.07 | Bagginsww | Lucky |
| 07:43.25 | Pyrrhus | Oz dropped wicked wiz hat for me 1st kill ;0 |
| 07:43.29 | Bagginsww | I have that |
| 07:43.38 | Pyrrhus | love it :) |
| 07:43.39 | Bagginsww | I look like a black mage right now :p |
| 07:43.45 | Pyrrhus | got your shat chant on it? |
| 07:43.47 | Pyrrhus | same |
| 07:43.53 | Bagginsww | I'm wearing the durnhold kilt |
| 07:44.04 | Bagginsww | have the staff from black morass |
| 07:44.05 | Pyrrhus | i got imbued netherweave robe |
| 07:44.08 | Bagginsww | and some dark blue cape |
| 07:44.13 | Pyrrhus | I have Mana Wraith |
| 07:44.15 | Pyrrhus | for weap |
| 07:44.20 | Bagginsww | almost aeverthing dark or purple |
| 07:44.25 | Tekkub | man, I Shatt so hard today when I got home from work |
| 07:44.25 | Pyrrhus | same :) |
| 07:44.26 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 07:44.37 | Pyrrhus | Tekkub: lol |
| 07:44.45 | Pyrrhus | Bagg got revered shat rep? |
| 07:44.50 | Bagginsww | nope |
| 07:45.00 | Pyrrhus | get it fast :) |
| 07:45.07 | Tekkub | my shatt is friendly *grin* |
| 07:45.07 | Pyrrhus | than drop 100g on the head enchant :) |
| 07:45.15 | Pyrrhus | 25 dmg and some crit |
| 07:45.19 | Pyrrhus | :) |
| 07:45.19 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 07:45.32 | Pyrrhus | forgot what pants I have.. |
| 07:45.40 | Pyrrhus | but I have mystic spellthread on em :) |
| 07:45.45 | Pyrrhus | what class are you? |
| 07:45.51 | Bagginsww | mage |
| 07:45.54 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 07:46.02 | Pyrrhus | spec/+dmg/+crit? |
| 07:46.09 | Tekkub | *refrains from a shatt joke involving lants* |
| 07:46.15 | Tekkub | *pants |
| 07:46.16 | Pyrrhus | Tekkub: haha |
| 07:46.43 | Bagginsww | ice/between +544=+580/+10.00-+14.40 crit |
| 07:46.52 | Bagginsww | depending on which gear I chose to wear |
| 07:46.53 | Pyrrhus | meh.. |
| 07:46.59 | Tekkub | so I think I'm giving in after 2 years of refusing to use a voice chat program... |
| 07:47.07 | Pyrrhus | elemental/622/30.87% crit :) |
| 07:47.18 | Pyrrhus | lol tek |
| 07:47.19 | Tekkub | I ordered a bluetooth dongle and a lil earpiece |
| 07:47.21 | Pyrrhus | Ventrilo? |
| 07:47.22 | Bagginsww | nice |
| 07:47.25 | Pyrrhus | ahhh |
| 07:47.40 | Tekkub | $40 on newegg for both... would been $100 at worstbuy |
| 07:48.19 | Bagginsww | unfortunately I didn't ahve tier 3 going into BC, and I haven't found enough of the fancy equipment in BC. |
| 07:48.35 | Pyrrhus | yea same here.. I was 6/8 tier 2 |
| 07:48.42 | Bagginsww | I was 3/8 |
| 07:48.45 | Tekkub | I just got one of the +20 fishing rods from the traps in desolace tonight |
| 07:48.46 | Pyrrhus | although had lots of naxx experiance.. never got drops |
| 07:48.46 | Bagginsww | tier 2 |
| 07:48.58 | Bagginsww | I had some naxx experience not alot |
| 07:49.02 | Bagginsww | mostly spider wing |
| 07:49.02 | Pyrrhus | well havent gotten to many BC drops.. |
| 07:49.03 | Tekkub | then I'll do the BC quest for the +20 rod and sell this one for some gold :) |
| 07:49.07 | Pyrrhus | alot of it is enchants.. |
| 07:49.12 | Pyrrhus | like +40 weapon |
| 07:49.14 | Bagginsww | +20 rod? |
| 07:49.15 | Pyrrhus | +20 gloves |
| 07:49.24 | Pyrrhus | 25 legs |
| 07:49.29 | Pyrrhus | 25 helm |
| 07:49.34 | Tekkub | there's a Shatt quest that give a +20 fishing rod |
| 07:49.41 | Pyrrhus | meh lol |
| 07:49.45 | Pyrrhus | fishing sux |
| 07:49.45 | Bagginsww | oh I think I did that |
| 07:49.45 | Tekkub | :P |
| 07:49.46 | Pyrrhus | imo |
| 07:49.52 | Bagginsww | I hate fishing |
| 07:49.58 | Tekkub | yea it does, but I don't level solo so meh |
| 07:50.07 | Tekkub | and I needed to get my cooking past 300 |
| 07:50.20 | Pyrrhus | yea hear ya.. |
| 07:50.23 | Tekkub | plus I have a new hat ^^ |
| 07:50.27 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:50.31 | Tekkub | and a furry-hat too |
| 07:50.37 | Pyrrhus | hey Bagg |
| 07:50.41 | Pyrrhus | how much hp you have? |
| 07:50.42 | Tekkub | I love that they reuse that model so much, I love it |
| 07:50.46 | Pyrrhus | unbuffed |
| 07:50.53 | Bagginsww | uh about 6300 or so |
| 07:51.03 | Bagginsww | and I"m wearing quest loot |
| 07:51.04 | Pyrrhus | ty to get a set with about.. |
| 07:51.17 | Pyrrhus | 8500+ with 8k mana |
| 07:51.19 | Bagginsww | well some drop loot |
| 07:51.24 | Pyrrhus | forget the +dmg and crit |
| 07:51.32 | Pyrrhus | just get a set like that |
| 07:51.39 | Pyrrhus | for tanking fire boss in gruuls :) |
| 07:51.46 | Bagginsww | fun |
| 07:51.49 | Pyrrhus | you need bout 12k hp fully buffed heh |
| 07:51.58 | Pyrrhus | and spellsteal like a mofo hehe |
| 07:52.08 | Pyrrhus | nuke/steal/nuke/steal lol |
| 07:52.20 | Bagginsww | we are doing are first gruul's attempt next friday |
| 07:52.35 | Bagginsww | I think the other mage will probalby be doing the tanking ;) |
| 07:52.40 | Pyrrhus | I like the oz fight I can almost kill scarecrow before raid kills dorthy lol |
| 07:52.46 | Bagginsww | nice |
| 07:52.55 | Pyrrhus | lol /flex |
| 07:53.01 | Pyrrhus | what race are you? |
| 07:53.05 | Bagginsww | I was on tinhead duty |
| 07:53.07 | Bagginsww | gnome |
| 07:53.17 | Pyrrhus | +5 int ftw lol |
| 07:53.21 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:53.25 | Pyrrhus | fire mage on straw? |
| 07:53.35 | Bagginsww | I have like 8900 or so mana |
| 07:53.50 | Bagginsww | ya my KZ group has 2 mages |
| 07:53.54 | Bagginsww | one fire and one ice |
| 07:54.14 | Tekkub | no conjure spec? sucks for you guys |
| 07:54.22 | Bagginsww | conjure spec? |
| 07:54.28 | Tekkub | yea |
| 07:54.35 | Tekkub | fire, ice, conjure water |
| 07:54.37 | Bagginsww | like "waterboy" |
| 07:54.44 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:54.52 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:54.55 | Pyrrhus | im bread specced |
| 07:55.08 | Bagginsww | conjure spec should mean I can summon scorpions ;) |
| 07:55.19 | Pyrrhus | fully buffed I have in dmg gear.. 8500hp and 10.4k mana lol |
| 07:55.20 | Bagginsww | I'm turtle specced |
| 07:55.37 | Pyrrhus | lol /castrandom pig/sheep/turtle |
| 07:55.44 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 07:55.58 | Bagginsww | hmm that sounds like a fun macro |
| 07:56.37 | Tekkub | I'd slip a instaDoT in there too |
| 07:56.43 | Tekkub | just to "spice it up" |
| 07:56.53 | Bagginsww | I lov ehow the turtle has 3 colors |
| 07:56.53 | Pyrrhus | we dont have insta dot.. |
| 07:56.59 | Tekkub | blame it on gnome engineering |
| 07:57.02 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 07:57.42 | Bagginsww | I love my water elemental, saved my life countless times, and puts up decent dps during certain fights |
| 07:58.08 | Bagginsww | it hits for like 700 per frostbolt most of the time |
| 07:58.17 | Pyrrhus | meh wanna know what saves me? |
| 07:58.21 | Pyrrhus | hes a trick for ya |
| 07:58.31 | Pyrrhus | know how invis has 5 sec fade before proccing? |
| 07:58.37 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 07:58.41 | Pyrrhus | pop invis... |
| 07:58.42 | Pyrrhus | than IB |
| 07:58.46 | Pyrrhus | wait 3 seconds.. |
| 07:58.50 | Pyrrhus | remove IB insta invis |
| 07:58.59 | Bagginsww | ooh |
| 07:58.59 | Pyrrhus | takes some timing practice ;) |
| 07:59.05 | Pyrrhus | but works great |
| 07:59.09 | bleetah | IB? been a while since I played my mager |
| 07:59.10 | bleetah | -r |
| 07:59.13 | Pyrrhus | ice block |
| 07:59.16 | bleetah | gah |
| 07:59.19 | Pyrrhus | ;0 |
| 07:59.22 | bleetah | course.. hell I feel stupid! |
| 07:59.24 | Tekkub | here's a better trick |
| 07:59.31 | Pyrrhus | Tekkub: do tell |
| 07:59.33 | Tekkub | fly str8 up above a'dal |
| 07:59.38 | Bagginsww | if only there was a way to invis out of the aran fight if it goes bad, :) |
| 07:59.40 | Tekkub | as high as you can go |
| 07:59.43 | Tekkub | drop |
| 07:59.47 | Tekkub | IB just before you hit |
| 07:59.56 | Tekkub | and don't make a pile of skellies trying |
| 08:00.06 | Pyrrhus | Tekkub been there done that.............. |
| 08:00.15 | Pyrrhus | now try blinking instead of IBing |
| 08:00.18 | Pyrrhus | thats tricker .. |
| 08:00.37 | Bagginsww | so they don't count as violent actions, to disrupt the cast? |
| 08:01.19 | Pyrrhus | nope IB doesnt |
| 08:01.25 | Bagginsww | interesting |
| 08:01.28 | Pyrrhus | :) |
| 08:01.35 | Pyrrhus | try it real fast in town.. |
| 08:01.39 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 08:01.39 | Pyrrhus | practice the timing |
| 08:06.07 | Bagginsww | interesting how there is an icon for chicken and cow that would be great for two new polymorphs lol |
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| 08:08.47 | Bagginsww | did ito n my first try |
| 08:08.52 | Bagginsww | "instant invis" |
| 08:10.18 | Pyrrhus | :) |
| 08:10.42 | Pyrrhus | theres supposed to be a cow poly.. never seen it though |
| 08:12.20 | Bagginsww | its not in the game as far as I know. NPC uses it though |
| 08:12.43 | Bagginsww | chicken poly is used by a boss in dead mines or so I remember |
| 08:13.45 | Bagginsww | according to thottbot cow poly was a joke item in 1.10 test server |
| 08:15.57 | bleetah | chicken poly is used in outlands too, iirc |
| 08:16.02 | bleetah | or maybe it was ghostlands |
| 08:16.06 | bleetah | by an NPC |
| 08:16.34 | Bagginsww | hmm that castranomd macro isn't working |
| 08:16.35 | bleetah | was pissing me off as they'd inevitably cast it on me when they were between 1 and 0.5% health |
| 08:16.40 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.44 | Bagginsww | did you spell it right? |
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| 08:28.29 | Pyrrhus | well it is.. |
| 08:29.01 | Pyrrhus | ... /castrandom [click on the 3 spells here] |
| 08:29.08 | Pyrrhus | nvm |
| 08:29.10 | Pyrrhus | he left lol |
| 08:34.38 | Skyfire | castrandom in pvp: am, scorch, and imp frostbolt |
| 08:34.39 | Skyfire | :X |
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| 08:45.39 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 08:49.26 | Skyfire | aw, fuck it, throw in fireball and blink too. :D |
| 08:51.54 | Pyrrhus | and blastwave |
| 08:52.09 | Pyrrhus | and dragons breath |
| 08:52.13 | Pyrrhus | and CoC |
| 09:00.02 | Skyfire | :) |
| 09:00.05 | Skyfire | wait wait |
| 09:00.16 | Skyfire | cast blink |
| 09:00.19 | Skyfire | then /castrandom |
| 09:00.21 | Skyfire | :] |
| 09:00.29 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 09:00.31 | Pyrrhus | meh |
| 09:00.46 | Pyrrhus | I want my old scorch and fireblast macro back.. |
| 09:00.51 | Skyfire | bet that would confuse a -lot- of people... except hunters :X |
| 09:01.02 | Pyrrhus | would confuse me lol |
| 09:01.17 | Pyrrhus | ill try to sheep and be like.. pyroblast... |
| 09:01.35 | Skyfire | lol |
| 09:01.42 | Skyfire | anywayz, goodnite |
| 09:01.47 | Skyfire | i need to gtf to sleep |
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| 09:35.31 | Kirkburn|afk | bleetah, I'm the only humanoid called Kirkburn |
| 09:35.44 | Kirkburn|afk | It's complete coincidence that I share a name with a Yorkshire town :P |
| 09:43.02 | bleetah | it's not 'coz you like pudding, then? |
| 09:55.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Pudding!? |
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| 10:01.58 | bleetah | yorkshire pudding |
| 10:02.05 | bleetah | isn't that some kinda delicacy? |
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| 11:32.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Any Wii owners around? Only found 1 so far :/ |
| 11:37.14 | watchout | Kirkburn|afk, you there? |
| 11:37.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, but I am just about to get my hair cut |
| 11:37.59 | Kirkburn|afk | I have a rare syndrom where my hair grows a little longer each day, very frustrating |
| 11:38.01 | watchout | do you support changing the boilerplate:guild to http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Watchout/Sandbox ? |
| 11:39.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I've been watching too much House |
| 11:39.21 | watchout | dr. house? ;P |
| 11:39.21 | Kirkburn|afk | yes |
| 11:39.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Bad timing |
| 11:39.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes to your first question |
| 11:39.45 | watchout | great :) |
| 11:39.45 | Kirkburn|afk | House M.D. to your second :) |
| 11:40.09 | watchout | ah, yeah it's called dr. house here, same meaning though |
| 11:40.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Kinda :P |
| 11:40.56 | watchout | I like it too, my GF keeps telling me that I'm like him :P |
| 11:41.40 | Kirkburn|afk | I aspire to be him, but ... friendlier :P |
| 11:41.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Back in a few! |
| 11:41.56 | watchout | bye |
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| 11:46.53 | Boromir | Anybody know if they're going to nerf druids? |
| 11:50.56 | watchout | they did already in the last patch |
| 11:52.06 | Boromir | ok |
| 12:03.13 | p30n | anyone know when they gonna fix paladin's ? :O |
| 12:03.50 | bleetah | yeah, I hear the class is scheduled for deletion in 2.1.0... completely fixed |
| 12:04.08 | bleetah | both pallies and durids |
| 12:04.13 | bleetah | so there'll be less qq, more pew pew |
| 12:04.22 | p30n | :) |
| 12:04.47 | p30n | i wish i could hand my pala in for another class then |
| 12:04.48 | p30n | :p |
| 12:04.57 | p30n | already lvld ofc |
| 12:06.37 | bleetah | I believe all the 'deleted' classes will be auto-converted into hunter pets |
| 12:53.57 | watchout | I'm off then, see you |
| 13:04.36 | bleetah | what' i'm waiting for, and I know everyone I've mentioned this to, agrees.. |
| 13:05.12 | bleetah | is the anim fix so that at least male nelves, when walking (as opposed to running) don't look like they've got a staff jammed up their crack |
| 13:07.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I propose banning the word "nerf" from this channel :) |
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| 13:07.51 | bleetah | banning people who use that word? |
| 13:07.57 | bleetah | I approve |
| 13:08.00 | bleetah | ban yourself! :P |
| 13:08.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Or setting up some kind of replacement thingy whereby every time it is said, it replaces it with "imatool" ;) |
| 13:09.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually the druid nerf wasn't so bad in the end |
| 13:09.25 | equiraptor | A friend of mine's nickname is Nerf. |
| 13:09.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Sorry, I meant the druid imatool wasn't so bad? |
| 13:09.32 | equiraptor | Please don't ban me for talking about my friend! |
| 13:09.47 | Kirkburn|afk | There is no life outside of this channel! |
| 13:09.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Blasphemy |
| 13:09.57 | bleetah | sometimes I think they over-imatool in PTR just so they look good when stuff goes live and it's under-imatooled |
| 13:09.58 | equiraptor | Fine, I'll go tell him he has to join. :-P |
| 13:09.59 | Kirkburn|afk | That's what I'll do you for |
| 13:10.24 | Kirkburn|afk | But imatooling is fun |
| 13:11.04 | Kirkburn|afk | I love how my XP install is slowly but surely breaking apart |
| 13:11.34 | equiraptor | Is today a holiday of some sort in the US? |
| 13:12.00 | equiraptor | There was very, very little traffic on my drive to work, and the school zone lights weren't flashing, though they normally are. |
| 13:12.33 | Kirkburn|afk | IE7's tabs don't always appear, the DVD drive is brokzor, Outlook refuses to start and I can't reinstall it cause ... the DVD drive is brokzor, it takes 3 mins to log in, and it pokes me in my sleep. |
| 13:12.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Are you sure it's not Sunday where you are? :P |
| 13:13.17 | equiraptor | Mon Mar 12 08:13:17 CDT 2007 |
| 13:13.31 | equiraptor | Yes, the time zone is set correctly for where I live. |
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| 13:14.02 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: you've been going to dodgy websites again, haven't you? you know, the ones where they'll show you boobies but first you have to disable all your AV .. 'coz they want you raw and in the flesh |
| 13:14.14 | bleetah | :P |
| 13:15.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Let's do the time warp again! |
| 13:15.54 | bleetah | well, any direction.. just away from Kirkburn|afk |
| 13:16.03 | Kirkburn|afk | :( |
| 13:16.10 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, my sources tell me no :O |
| 13:16.30 | bleetah | i'm expecting you'll be singing '(you're) a sweet transvestite' rsn |
| 13:16.32 | equiraptor | It must be SXSW, then. |
| 13:17.27 | Kirkburn|afk | rsn? Really soon? |
| 13:17.39 | bleetah | equiraptor: maybe the local hive mind decided on a 'cbf' day, and they forgot to transmit to you |
| 13:17.43 | bleetah | real soon now |
| 13:17.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah |
| 13:17.53 | bleetah | and cbf -> can't be fucked |
| 13:17.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Can I add that to the list? :) |
| 13:17.55 | equiraptor | heh |
| 13:17.57 | Kirkburn|afk | cba, mucho better |
| 13:18.09 | equiraptor | I don't do cbf days. |
| 13:18.11 | equiraptor | So... :) |
| 13:18.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, I do them every day |
| 13:18.30 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: depends what you're into, i guess |
| 13:18.58 | p30n | any raiding pala's in here ? |
| 13:19.09 | bleetah | i wonder if births/deaths/marriages dept. here would accept 'CBF' as a new name for myself |
| 13:19.50 | equiraptor | What would you tell them it meant? |
| 13:20.17 | bleetah | i wouldn't, coz they'd decline it if it was an abbreviation |
| 13:20.28 | bleetah | 'coz then they'd want the full name, and wouldn't accept it |
| 13:21.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm into peons. ctbf? |
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| 13:21.48 | equiraptor | "Me not that kind of orc!" |
| 13:22.25 | equiraptor | Oh, I got flight form last night. |
| 13:22.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Are you sure, I mean, this is me you're being offered? |
| 13:22.37 | equiraptor | And practiced healing as a druid. |
| 13:22.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 13:22.49 | equiraptor | Dude, there's a line. |
| 13:22.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | congras equiraptor |
| 13:22.54 | equiraptor | Thanks. :) |
| 13:23.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Line? It's all sexy peon polygons to me :P |
| 13:23.28 | equiraptor | Hah |
| 13:23.44 | Kirkburn|afk | And congrats :) |
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| 13:24.04 | Kirkburn|afk | p30n, no raiding pallys I know of here |
| 13:24.13 | equiraptor | I need to group more on my healing capable classes. |
| 13:24.14 | p30n | ok =( |
| 13:24.28 | equiraptor | I have very little healing experience, but when I heal, things seem to go well. |
| 13:24.35 | equiraptor | I know a raiding pally, but he's not here. |
| 13:24.35 | p30n | i was wondering if there is any alternative route to take except full healbot |
| 13:24.40 | bleetah | nah, only lvl 22 pally |
| 13:24.42 | equiraptor | Oh, crap, I talked about the outside world again! |
| 13:24.57 | p30n | im lvl 70 holy healbot and im getting too bored to cope with it |
| 13:24.57 | Kirkburn|afk | She be speaking in tongues! |
| 13:25.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Quick, fetch the duck and scales! |
| 13:25.20 | equiraptor | I heard about a pally tanking. But I suspect, in general, you'd be wanted as a healbot. |
| 13:25.34 | p30n | i know |
| 13:25.38 | p30n | thats what i dislike |
| 13:25.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Paladins are supposed to be getting looked at |
| 13:25.44 | p30n | with good tanking gear i can do great in isntances |
| 13:25.48 | p30n | but no1 trusts me |
| 13:25.49 | p30n | =/ |
| 13:25.59 | equiraptor | Once upon a time, I knew a retri-spec'd raiding pally. |
| 13:26.04 | p30n | lol |
| 13:26.04 | Kirkburn|afk | There was a recent statement mentioning that they are working towards getting them to be viable in other forms other than healbot |
| 13:26.06 | p30n | me2 |
| 13:26.12 | p30n | myself like 2years ago |
| 13:26.15 | equiraptor | That was when the level cap was still 60, and he had insane gear. |
| 13:26.19 | bleetah | if the guild you're with have better tanks than what you could achieve, and that's likely, then prolly no chance.. as most raiding people get anal about their roles and aren't prepared to mix it up for fun and pleasure |
| 13:26.21 | equiraptor | He did... Like... Everything in raids. |
| 13:26.29 | p30n | Kirkburn|afk: for real?! got url for that=? |
| 13:26.31 | p30n | *awaitibng* |
| 13:27.38 | p30n | well |
| 13:27.40 | equiraptor | Haha, Ford's going to sell pink mustangs. |
| 13:27.48 | p30n | i like a paladin revamp |
| 13:27.56 | p30n | to get usefull in other areas than healing |
| 13:27.58 | equiraptor | Sorry, Ford, but, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 13:29.25 | bleetah | equiraptor: here's a suggestion for people missing on the streets.. might it be the entire switchover of the US to daylight savings has screwed with peoples minds? |
| 13:29.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Twas on bluetracker |
| 13:29.44 | equiraptor | bleetah: Completely possible. :/ |
| 13:29.51 | equiraptor | DST sucks. |
| 13:29.59 | Adys | wow talk about activity |
| 13:30.07 | bleetah | all timezones suck.. we should just be pure UTC |
| 13:30.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Activity, noun, to do stuff. |
| 13:30.24 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk, you any good with lua patterns? im pulling my hair out trying to work out why i cant match tooltipcss http://pastey.net/8182 |
| 13:30.47 | equiraptor | Nah, timezones are nice. Because with timezones, you can ask someone what time it is and have an idea of what point of the day they're in. |
| 13:30.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I like activity, people get things done when they're doing activity. Does Adys do activity? I don't know, but you can be sure I do activity. |
| 13:31.04 | equiraptor | If we were all UTC, it'd be, "Sometime after breakfasttime but before lunchtime." |
| 13:31.22 | bleetah | no, they'd just say 5AM |
| 13:31.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Of course, I would like to talk about stuff other than activity, but since Adys is an admin and also my luverrr, I have to do what he says and so I'm talking about activity, which is fun. |
| 13:31.33 | equiraptor | But that wouldn't tell you if it was breakfast time or not. |
| 13:31.53 | bleetah | yes it would, 'coz you know they're 3 hours behind you |
| 13:31.58 | equiraptor | How? |
| 13:32.10 | equiraptor | If we all used UTC, it'd be 5AM at the same time everywhere. |
| 13:32.12 | bleetah | well, not 3 hours behind.. but.. |
| 13:32.15 | Adys | Kirkburn |
| 13:32.16 | bleetah | oh, was gunna say you get the idea |
| 13:32.21 | Adys | "dingdingding" :D |
| 13:32.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys |
| 13:32.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys adys adys adys |
| 13:32.44 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, what's that got to do with lua? |
| 13:32.54 | kaso | because its a lua pattern? |
| 13:32.58 | Kirkburn|afk | It is? |
| 13:33.12 | kaso | ha |
| 13:33.17 | kaso | yes |
| 13:33.21 | bleetah | same problem exists now, though... if I say it's gone midnight, how do you know what day I'm talking about? |
| 13:33.36 | Adys | Ok, we got something new there |
| 13:33.37 | equiraptor | I don't, but I at least know it's dark there. :-P |
| 13:33.41 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, tbh, I have no idea |
| 13:33.51 | bleetah | not necessarily.. I could be in Antarctica :-P |
| 13:33.59 | kaso | no worries |
| 13:34.07 | equiraptor | It could still be dark there, deepending on the time of year... :-P |
| 13:34.18 | equiraptor | And right now, I'd think the poles would be in their transition state. |
| 13:34.19 | Kirkburn|afk | bleetah, damn you for hiding your IP |
| 13:34.25 | kaso | its difficult finding patterns wide enough to capture all the variations of tooltipcss without accidently swallowing half the page |
| 13:34.42 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: :P 202.47.115.47 |
| 13:34.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I can narrow kaso down to a University |
| 13:34.54 | bleetah | but it's a layer 2 connection to a city a thousand km's or so away |
| 13:34.56 | Kirkburn|afk | In fact I can narrow Legorol down to a room some days |
| 13:35.06 | bleetah | so it's pointless trying to get a geo loc on the IP :P |
| 13:35.08 | kaso | last term you could get me to a 50yrd radius |
| 13:35.21 | equiraptor | I wonder if I still have an accurate LOC setting. |
| 13:35.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah yeah, halls wasn't it? |
| 13:35.28 | kaso | yup |
| 13:35.46 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, all I get for you is "equirapt@rivaridge.equiraptor.com" |
| 13:35.52 | kaso | they changed the router setup since then though so each hall doesnt have its own router anymore |
| 13:36.02 | bleetah | equiraptor: basically, the question about breakfast time would become 'what time do you have breakfast?', and not 'what's your offset from me so I know when to ring you and not interrupt breakfast?' |
| 13:36.13 | equiraptor | Kirkburn|afk: Look up equiraptor.com. It has a LOC record with lat and long, I think. |
| 13:36.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Ach, I'm too lazy for all this |
| 13:36.34 | equiraptor | bleetah: Except "what time is it?" is way easier to ask than "what time do you have breakfast" and then doing math. |
| 13:36.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I just want WHOIS to tell me where to fire the miss- I mean send the flowers |
| 13:36.54 | equiraptor | bleetah: Because for me, it's not about when I can call you. It's about what time of day it is there *now*, generally. |
| 13:37.19 | equiraptor | Ah, well, that LOC is a bit off. The server is a few miles away from there, now, and I'm ~10 miles away from the server, right now. |
| 13:38.20 | equiraptor | But if you sent a big enough nuke, or whatever, you'd still get me. |
| 13:38.20 | bleetah | equiraptor: you've got that wrong... "what time is it" with current t/z's require you to do the maths to determine the offset, where as a UTC 'what time do you have breakfast' tells you what time on your own wallclock immediately |
| 13:38.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Got one in my back yard all prepared and ready |
| 13:38.20 | equiraptor | bleetah: Why do I care bout the offset, for my needs? |
| 13:38.21 | equiraptor | bleetah: I don't. |
| 13:38.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you hear that CIA? We're talking about blowing places up. /me waves. |
| 13:38.26 | Adys | Ok guys hold on a sec |
| 13:38.36 | bleetah | yeah, but if you were to ask me 'what time do I have breakfast' now, I'd say '7am'. that gives you no useful info |
| 13:38.39 | equiraptor | bleetah: "Now" is what I care about. And if you give me an offset, I have to do math to figure out what point of the day you're in now. |
| 13:38.50 | Kirkburn|afk | God you're so demanding Adys, it's what I like about you. Dominating! |
| 13:38.54 | Adys | Are we adding thottbot to elinks-item? |
| 13:38.56 | equiraptor | bleetah: Yeah. I wouldn't ask that. I'd ask, "What time is it there?" |
| 13:38.56 | bleetah | I don't know what the offset is.. I have breakfast at 7am |
| 13:39.02 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: i love you <3 |
| 13:39.19 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 13:39.20 | bleetah | and then you have to do some math... pointless. why not jsut ask 'what time do you have breakfast' |
| 13:39.25 | equiraptor | bleetah: No, I wouldn't. |
| 13:39.39 | equiraptor | bleetah: You're completely missing what I'm saying. |
| 13:39.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, since links work with the minor link edit, yes |
| 13:39.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I see no reason why not |
| 13:40.15 | Adys | ok so thats good. |
| 13:40.24 | Adys | now why did gryphen put thottbot first again tho? |
| 13:40.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Alexa |
| 13:40.45 | bleetah | equiraptor: believe it or not, I am not missing what your saying. I used to agree with you. Then I worked for a company that had offices is Sydney, Munich, Dublin, Las Vegas. Such a pain to organise a telephone hookup. Would've just been a lot easier to say '10PM' |
| 13:40.47 | equiraptor | bleetah: I don't care when you have breakfast related to me. I care what point in the day you're in *right now*. The easiest way to figure that out is to ask what time it is there. If everyone was under UTC, there would no longer be an easy way to ask that. |
| 13:40.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I can understand Thott first, but not Alla second |
| 13:41.01 | Adys | BOOM wall of text |
| 13:41.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Thott, Wh, Alla |
| 13:41.10 | Kirkburn|afk | That's what I recommend |
| 13:41.11 | Adys | hm for elinks we'd go more with how accurate the site is tbh |
| 13:41.18 | Adys | and keep alexa for fansites |
| 13:41.25 | equiraptor | bleetah: Coordinating things like that just isn't a problem for us. And we do work with various international segments. We just specify calls in UTC. |
| 13:41.42 | equiraptor | bleetah: If you're not smart enough to manage your own local time from UTC, go work for someone else. |
| 13:42.45 | bleetah | I did, for different reasons ;).. but I ythink you've just demonstrated my point. to make it easier to work in multiple timezones, you work in UTC. |
| 13:42.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, start a discussion about the order, we might as well get something controversial going :P Village pump, possibly even! :O |
| 13:43.05 | Adys | noes you start it |
| 13:43.12 | equiraptor | bleetah: But UTCc is really inconvenient for just living. |
| 13:43.14 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm afk :P |
| 13:43.21 | Adys | and make me a coffee aswell honey I just woke up |
| 13:43.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Plus, uh, making lunch, buh-bye |
| 13:43.27 | bleetah | anyways, these guysd look like they're trying to do serious stuff, I'll refrain from the pointless convo.. for now ;) |
| 13:43.36 | equiraptor | bleetah: It's relatively easy to specify international things in UTC, while maintaining a sane localtime. |
| 13:43.36 | Adys | or a lunch, that will do too |
| 13:43.40 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 13:43.41 | bleetah | equiraptor: go live for someone else ;) :P |
| 13:43.46 | Adys | :P |
| 13:44.10 | Kirkburn|afk | So I watched 20 episodes of House over the weekend |
| 13:44.12 | bleetah | UTC/standard.. just all too damned annoying, really. dst/no dst... I'm going outta my mind raaaaa! |
| 13:44.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Can you tell? :) |
| 13:44.22 | equiraptor | bleetah: DST is dumb. :) |
| 13:44.26 | Adys | oO |
| 13:44.43 | bleetah | the closer to the equator, the dumber it gets.. I'll give you that much |
| 13:45.09 | bleetah | works great @ 42 degrees south :-D |
| 13:45.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Does everyone who plays WoW not have a Wii or something? |
| 13:45.25 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk, i think my bot is ready for a real world test, i would if i could beg a bot-tag off of you, then i'll do a test of one page edit to replace a tooltipCSS and one new page on a unlisted item. |
| 13:45.29 | bleetah | and that's all the info I'm giving Kirkburn|afk so he can stalk me |
| 13:45.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I've found only /one/ person so far on the three channels |
| 13:45.55 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: my Wii had birth defects, it ended up being a DS |
| 13:46.51 | Kirkburn|afk | That quite some birth defect |
| 13:47.29 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, I'll see what I can do |
| 13:47.29 | Adys | Updating Elinks-item |
| 13:47.45 | kaso | thankie |
| 13:48.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Here's how: sancus, vlad_, I need to be able to set people as bots :) |
| 13:48.39 | kaso | hah |
| 13:49.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Atm only fandy can, and he's not around so much currently |
| 13:49.18 | bleetah | if you guys ever need a 'random' user page to test stuff on, feel free to 'vandalise' User:Normal to your heart's content... (yes, that's mine.. long story). Doubt you need it, really, but thought I'd offer |
| 13:49.19 | kaso | Is it alright if i throw out a 2 tests edits, now. |
| 13:49.38 | bleetah | I'm insane enough to trust you to not over vandalise |
| 13:50.04 | kaso | i shall be creating the page "Ancient Bone Bow" and replacing the tooltipcss on "Crimson Snake" |
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| 13:51.07 | Tepetkhet | Hi |
| 13:51.12 | Tepetkhet | About to quit my job.... |
| 13:51.18 | Tepetkhet | Uninstalling Trillian now. Later. |
| 13:51.40 | equiraptor | Different meaning to "Client Quit" |
| 13:51.42 | Kirkburn|afk | zomg |
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| 13:52.38 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: you should be bureaucrat tbh |
| 13:53.07 | Adys | and me im getting problems with miranda, again |
| 13:53.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks :) |
| 13:54.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Don't normally like asking for stuff, but I don't want to keep asking fandy for stuff (esp when he has no idea of the background. Useless non-IRCer :) |
| 13:55.39 | equiraptor | Oh, I figured out why the school lights were off. It's spring break. |
| 13:55.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah |
| 13:56.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Wasn't I going to get food? Hmm |
| 13:58.16 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm so not telling you when I'm back |
| 13:58.36 | equiraptor | Left yet? |
| 13:59.03 | Adys | lol |
| 14:03.06 | kaso | how come the wiki is suddenly moving as fast as a turtle walking over tar. :< |
| 14:04.59 | bleetah | .. 'coz Kirkburn|afk couldn't drag himself away from the keys, so he's sucking the life out of it |
| 14:05.20 | Bibi`ouF | anyone who ran auchenai crypts a lot here ? i would like to know what is the Avatar of the Martyred ? |
| 14:05.47 | bleetah | 1st rule of open source, blame the last dev who left the project 2nd rule: blame the senior who just stepped afk |
| 14:06.07 | Bibi`ouF | It seems it's a summon of Exarch Maladaar but i don't understand why it has a lot less loot count than the exarch himself ? |
| 14:18.52 | Adys | yay kaso you got a bot now? |
| 14:19.01 | kaso | almost |
| 14:19.06 | kaso | it isnt finished yet but almost |
| 14:19.21 | Adys | it needs tagging right |
| 14:19.25 | kaso | indeed it does |
| 14:20.24 | kaso | this is the current format of the item stubs im creating; http://www.wowwiki.com/Ancient_Bone_Bow but im not sure how its layed out |
| 14:21.00 | kaso | ive just taken the boilerplate and commented out all the bits i cannot do with my bot, so a later user can uncomment and use them. |
| 14:21.00 | Adys | it sounds great tbh |
| 14:21.25 | Adys | nah remove the comments |
| 14:21.40 | kaso | ok fair enough, should i remove the source section also? |
| 14:22.07 | kaso | because i cant actually know that |
| 14:22.18 | Adys | yeah some item stubs are actually totally empty |
| 14:22.32 | Adys | if you want |
| 14:22.35 | Adys | keep source |
| 14:22.41 | Adys | and put {{Stub/Item}} in this section |
| 14:22.46 | Adys | its what I usually do |
| 14:22.50 | kaso | hokay |
| 14:24.36 | kaso | Now the final question i have is that my bot in its current form will attempt to add pretty much every item in game, Random white quest items, and grey items alike, do you think that is a good idea or should i try to put some limits on which items it does |
| 14:25.01 | Adys | don't add grey items yet tbh |
| 14:25.06 | kaso | along the same line, it will add the "base" items for "of the items" which are usually a green item with no stats, so that might not be wanted on the wiki |
| 14:25.27 | Adys | ah the prefix items |
| 14:25.42 | Adys | id say dont add them either personally since we havent decided how we were gonna organize them |
| 14:26.37 | kaso | grey items will be easy to exclude, i'll have to have a think how i can detect the prefix items |
| 14:26.56 | Adys | what db do you take your stuff from? wowhead? |
| 14:27.02 | Adys | ah no wait |
| 14:27.07 | Adys | just read it was from the armory |
| 14:27.22 | kaso | Yah |
| 14:27.28 | Adys | In fact id say exclude all grey and green items |
| 14:27.35 | kaso | sounds fair enough |
| 14:29.57 | Adys | hehe im gonna toy around with this armory |
| 14:35.14 | Adys | damn, the armory doesnt have the artifact items ;) |
| 14:35.35 | kaso | ha yah it only has items you can get ingame (with one or two exceptions) |
| 14:36.09 | kaso | there's a tempest keep item in there somewhere, and a couple dark temple ones, but the majority of the ungettable items are protected |
| 14:39.18 | Adys | dark temple ones uh :p |
| 14:39.57 | Adys | black temple* argh |
| 14:40.05 | Adys | funny they include it tho |
| 14:40.36 | kaso | it appears as if every item in the blizzard database is in armory, but it somehow needs to be flagged "viewable" |
| 14:41.05 | kaso | some items arent flagged dispite some people having looted it, that causes those people's profiles to error |
| 14:41.38 | Adys | interesting |
| 14:42.06 | kaso | bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long >.< |
| 14:42.29 | kaso | tried to grep through the thosands of items i downloaded the other day |
| 14:42.35 | kaso | grep doesnt like that many |
| 14:43.21 | kaso | bingo |
| 14:43.29 | kaso | Tempest keep raid drop: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=30007 |
| 14:43.49 | bleetah | kaso: head, tail and a for loop ;) |
| 14:44.05 | bleetah | as well as the grep |
| 14:44.20 | kaso | ^_- |
| 14:44.21 | kaso | what |
| 14:44.23 | Adys | Kaso btw |
| 14:44.24 | Adys | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=15641 |
| 14:44.33 | kaso | oh! |
| 14:44.42 | kaso | <randomEnchantData/> |
| 14:44.46 | kaso | how did i never see that before |
| 14:44.49 | kaso | im blind |
| 14:45.06 | kaso | awesome it should be trivial to skip them then |
| 14:45.28 | bleetah | it's late,, I'm not even gunna try psuedocode, but a for loop, that's as long as the file (wc -l filename), that has steps in sizes that you use in a head/tail.. |
| 14:45.31 | Adys | hm to be honest... |
| 14:45.37 | bleetah | actually, no, that's stupid.. cut or something similar |
| 14:45.42 | bleetah | argh, 2AM.. bedtime |
| 14:45.55 | Adys | nn bleetah |
| 14:46.12 | kaso | i did it by just doing "grep i=3*" which limited it to about 4000 items |
| 14:46.39 | Adys | kaso, can you do something for me? |
| 14:46.45 | kaso | i can try |
| 14:46.58 | Adys | create a wiki list on a sandbox userpage |
| 14:47.07 | Adys | that includes every "suffix" item |
| 14:47.16 | Adys | in the format * [[Itemname]] |
| 14:47.35 | kaso | yah i should be able to add some code to do that |
| 14:48.14 | Adys | awesome, dont bother too much if its too much of a hassle tho |
| 14:48.56 | kaso | im not a expert on wikicode, is there some set format for the list you want or? |
| 14:49.16 | Adys | nah |
| 14:49.19 | Adys | just a raw list |
| 14:49.25 | Adys | * [[name]] |
| 14:49.29 | kaso | hokay |
| 14:49.30 | Adys | * [[name]] |
| 14:49.32 | Adys | argh |
| 14:49.37 | Adys | getting problems with irc again |
| 14:49.45 | Adys | anyways you see how it work s:p |
| 14:50.06 | kaso | yah i getcha |
| 14:50.39 | kaso | i knew that "append to end of page" function i wrote would come in useful! |
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| 14:53.28 | Adys | hehe |
| 15:03.10 | kaso | Hokay, done some little tests, it should add any poor qual items it skips to User:Kaso/Poor_Quality_Items and and random suffix items it skips to User:Kaso/Random_Suffix_Items |
| 15:04.43 | kaso | Adys can you flag as bot? |
| 15:04.52 | Adys | only fandy can :: |
| 15:04.53 | Adys | :/ |
| 15:04.57 | kaso | darn |
| 15:05.08 | kaso | I'll hold off then |
| 15:05.33 | kaso | I guess i should leave a talk message? |
| 15:05.53 | Adys | Yeah |
| 15:10.10 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Bot |
| 15:10.59 | kaso | ah sweet never saw that template |
| 15:11.05 | Adys | because i just created it |
| 15:11.16 | kaso | haha |
| 15:15.03 | kaso | i've been thinking about {{tooltip}} |
| 15:15.23 | kaso | shouldn't it have some field that records the itemID |
| 15:15.42 | Adys | it should yes but it doesnt |
| 15:16.03 | Adys | the problem is i personally wanted the id to be in the page name |
| 15:16.19 | Adys | Item:12345 for example |
| 15:16.39 | Adys | and use some odd script or modify a bit the core code to show the title as the items name |
| 15:17.09 | kaso | hmm, interesting |
| 15:19.09 | Adys | that was my original idea but it didnt exactly get around |
| 15:19.12 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v infobot] by Adys |
| 15:22.59 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kull_Facts ?? |
| 15:23.15 | kaso | My suggestion would be to add a |itemID= tag to the tooltip, which while doing nothing now, can be implimented in the future in whatever way needed, and any tooltips that already have the tag will get the changes. |
| 15:23.56 | Adys | yeah kaso i agree on that, but if we actually have the elinks-item template up on the page we already have the id so it can be botted easily |
| 15:24.06 | Adys | which is also why i made the vote to remove thottbot as first arg |
| 15:24.12 | kaso | That is true. |
| 15:25.43 | kaso | I just had to steal Kirkburn's joke he made last night: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic |
| 15:40.02 | Adys | btw kaso |
| 15:40.07 | Adys | fandy never comes on irc :P |
| 15:40.21 | kaso | Psh, why not |
| 15:40.22 | Adys | he came once only when we were deciding the new admins iirc |
| 15:40.31 | Adys | irc, iirc, hahahahah.... why isnt fin here |
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| 16:11.56 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Liuzhuan |
| 16:12.06 | Adys | this guy uploaded two php applications |
| 16:12.16 | Adys | as "test.jpg" and "1stphp.jpg" |
| 16:13.14 | Adys | deleted them now anyways they were unused |
| 16:16.45 | Gryphen | Special:Log will link to deleted contribs |
| 16:18.24 | Adys | really? thats nice |
| 16:21.18 | Adys | wiki being slow again |
| 16:38.32 | Adys | being veeery slow.. |
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| 17:58.57 | Adys | Hello watchout |
| 17:58.59 | Adys | lol |
| 17:59.03 | watchout | sorry :P |
| 17:59.07 | Adys | :P |
| 17:59.17 | watchout | the client did weird things, I had to test some settings |
| 17:59.49 | Hobinheim | i'm watching this awesome google vidoe about open source projects |
| 17:59.54 | Hobinheim | and how to keep trolls out |
| 18:00.04 | watchout | link pls |
| 18:00.07 | Hobinheim | it's on the front page of slashdot |
| 18:00.19 | Hobinheim | http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/12/1449201 |
| 18:00.22 | watchout | ty |
| 18:00.25 | Hobinheim | (makes me think of zeal) |
| 18:01.06 | watchout | sounds awesome |
| 18:07.37 | Hobinheim|work | i'm loving it so far |
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| 18:08.56 | Hobinheim|work | "remove attribution from your projects" |
| 18:08.59 | Hobinheim|work | HMM I WONDER WHO DID THAT |
| 18:09.48 | watchout | Hobinheim|work, awesome link! |
| 18:10.00 | watchout | ty for that! |
| 18:10.17 | Hobinheim|work | i'm 20:00 in, good so far |
| 18:10.20 | Hobinheim|work | watchout, are you a programmer? |
| 18:10.31 | Hobinheim|work | well, you know your way around a bot, custom built i'm assuming? |
| 18:10.36 | Hobinheim|work | python or something else? |
| 18:10.37 | watchout | um, well define programmer |
| 18:11.42 | watchout | I'm technical informatics student |
| 18:11.43 | watchout | and the bot is written in php |
| 18:12.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 18:12.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | I want a burger... |
| 18:13.00 | watchout | well go get one ;P |
| 18:13.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | I tried the veggie burger at a local store |
| 18:13.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | it was disgusting |
| 18:13.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | god knows what they made that patty with |
| 18:13.31 | Tuqui-tuqui | but you're right |
| 18:13.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | burger time |
| 18:15.26 | watchout | Hobinheim|work, did you want to know something special? ;) Ah yes the bot is my own custom build, no stolen code and stuff... |
| 18:16.50 | Hobinheim|work | watchout, well yeah mine is in perl |
| 18:17.00 | Hobinheim|work | i didn't use any like... packages or APIs, minus mech |
| 18:17.09 | Hobinheim|work | what hurts the most is crawling for includes |
| 18:17.20 | Hobinheim|work | cuz i can't get a flat list, i have to parse out the What Links Here Page |
| 18:17.43 | Hobinheim|work | anyway i was under the assumption that only technical folk would enjoy the google video, so here i am guessing that you're a technical folk |
| 18:18.36 | watchout | yes :D |
| 18:18.42 | Hobinheim|work | i'm having a nerd on for this video |
| 18:18.45 | Hobinheim|work | lots of good ideas |
| 18:19.38 | watchout | in fact, I think that video is awesome because it also applies to other community project than open source software development |
| 18:20.37 | watchout | for example: if we had the mentioned "mission" on wowwiki, we may not have those *cough* useless player pages |
| 18:21.05 | watchout | *+now |
| 18:21.21 | Hobinheim|work | haha the discussion in the lock threads is how priests and locks are a match made in heaven |
| 18:21.34 | Hobinheim|work | we're convienced there's no other class pair that synergizes as well |
| 18:22.17 | Hobinheim|work | life tap + vampiric embrace + shadow weaving + curse of shadows = INFINITE MANA |
| 18:23.05 | watchout | you forget improved shadow bolt + soul leech |
| 18:23.48 | watchout | and yes. shadow priest and warlock is definitely a dream team |
| 18:24.15 | watchout | though they would run against a solid wall if mobs are shadow resistant... |
| 18:24.49 | watchout | and rogue/feral druid is also a pretty awesome team |
| 18:28.47 | Hobinheim|work | what synergy do they have? |
| 18:28.51 | Hobinheim|work | that's like rogue + rogue light? |
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| 18:31.34 | watchout | rogue gets many crits = heal on every crit |
| 18:31.58 | watchout | both can stealth |
| 18:32.11 | watchout | druid keeps downtime ... down |
| 18:32.45 | watchout | good rogues can tank without too many problems |
| 18:33.32 | Hobinheim|work | what is heal on every crit? |
| 18:35.01 | Adys | improved leader of the pack |
| 18:35.02 | watchout | improved leader of the pack |
| 18:35.05 | Adys | nub |
| 18:35.46 | Hobinheim|work | hurr don't care much for droods |
| 18:36.16 | Hobinheim|work | wow that's kinda sick |
| 18:36.26 | Hobinheim|work | haha healing talents in feral |
| 18:37.48 | watchout | why? |
| 18:38.02 | watchout | druids are hybrids after all |
| 18:41.41 | Bagginsww | hmm interesting during warcraft 3, winterspring was during its springtime or summer, no snow |
| 18:43.06 | equiraptor | I love my druid. |
| 18:43.38 | equiraptor | I was running around with my boyfriend's rogue last night tanking and healing. Then another druid joined us, and even though I'm very much feral spec'd, I put on my healing gear and healed. |
| 18:44.05 | equiraptor | The other druid was tanking beautifully, I was keeping him alive, and the rogue was geting knocked back all over the world. :) |
| 18:44.30 | equiraptor | I love the flexibility, and I love still being able to do multiple rolls very well, just by having a differnt set of gear. |
| 18:44.50 | equiraptor | Yeah, changing rolls mid-fight doesn't work too well, but... Meh. I can live with that. :) |
| 18:45.29 | Hobinheim|work | druids.... maker me angry |
| 18:45.50 | equiraptor | Why? |
| 18:45.53 | Hobinheim|work | i only got up to bear form but i could tell i was missing out on a world of efficiency having not mastered the proper order of pulling as a caster or starting in bear form, and then watching my mana |
| 18:45.57 | Hobinheim|work | it made my head explode |
| 18:46.12 | equiraptor | Ah. |
| 18:46.18 | Hobinheim|work | and then my pally got really annoying because without speccing 7 or so in holy, it was like wtf why are my heals coming in at the worst possible time |
| 18:46.25 | equiraptor | Yeah, it's a complex class to play, at leats at first. |
| 18:46.40 | Hobinheim|work | i find caster classes to be much more... obvious |
| 18:46.53 | equiraptor | Once they get to level 32, so they have cat form with ravage and ferocious bite, things get a lot better. |
| 18:47.02 | Hobinheim|work | i'm starting to fear my hunter too. the hunter thread is abounds with NO DPS, JUST CC NOW, SURVIVAL IS AWWWSOME |
| 18:47.16 | Hobinheim|work | i'm like oh noes effort, haha |
| 18:47.22 | Hobinheim|work | cuz a lock is all dps, just depends on what kind of dps |
| 18:47.29 | Hobinheim|work | and extremely situational CC |
| 18:47.43 | equiraptor | Once you have those, it's just stealth up, ravage, DPS it down. Tada. If your health gets low, shift out, cast a heal on yourself, and go back to scratch, scratch. |
| 18:48.02 | equiraptor | It's like a rogue that never has to eat or bandage. No consumables needed. |
| 18:48.41 | equiraptor | And while my rogue sometimes needs to run away when it pulls too many mobs, or whatever, the druid can nearly always just grin and bear it (bad pun, laugh at me now). |
| 18:48.56 | Adys | New work for the botters on Bot Requests |
| 18:49.07 | watchout | damnit... |
| 18:49.16 | Adys | # Deprecate {{gsc}} / {{sc}} / {{gc}} / {{gs}} for {{Cost}} |
| 18:49.25 | Adys | i left over g, s and c on purpose |
| 18:49.57 | Hobinheim|work | aww you don't like the weird mixed cast currencies? hahaa |
| 18:50.14 | Adys | huh |
| 18:50.54 | watchout | I may have ruined 4 pages :D |
| 18:51.10 | Adys | eh? :P |
| 18:51.42 | Bagginsww | juice heh heh |
| 18:51.44 | equiraptor | Druid talent question... |
| 18:51.47 | equiraptor | If I carry around healer gear, is there much point to Nurturing Instinct (increases your healing spells by up to 50% of your Strength)? |
| 18:52.17 | Hobinheim|work | Strength heavy!!! |
| 18:52.24 | kaso | equiraptor ask yourself how often do you heal in your damage gear? |
| 18:52.36 | watchout | I used a variable twice... unfortunately, the 2nd use assigned the content of a whole page to it.. |
| 18:52.50 | Bagginsww | who killed the wiki this time? |
| 18:52.58 | equiraptor | kaso: Fairly regularly, but never when it's important. Only in between fights because I'd rather heal myself than eat. |
| 18:52.59 | Adys | it goes down regularly Bagginsww |
| 18:53.02 | watchout | *raises hand* |
| 18:53.09 | equiraptor | kaso: I could also switch to healer gear for that, if it mattered. |
| 18:53.10 | Bagginsww | that's what you claim :) |
| 18:53.17 | Bagginsww | but I'm sure its one of you :) |
| 18:53.19 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 18:53.25 | equiraptor | kaso: I almost never heal in battle in feral gear. |
| 18:53.37 | watchout | no, wait that can't be me... |
| 18:53.39 | Bagginsww | but if its already undead, a fenix down will kill ita gain :) |
| 18:53.51 | Adys | is there anyone up for helping with the categorizing of http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Uncategorizedimages ? ^^ |
| 18:53.58 | Adys | been doing that since a few hours |
| 18:54.05 | watchout | Adys, no :D |
| 18:54.08 | equiraptor | Sounds like I may want to respec my druid, then, because that's not the only talent I think I want to change. |
| 18:54.14 | Adys | Main category: Category:Images |
| 18:54.17 | watchout | unless you help me with cleaning Category:Quests |
| 18:54.42 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.143) |
| 18:54.43 | Adys | Category:Interface Images - Category:Screenshots - Category:Tactical Graphics - Category:WoWWiki Graphics |
| 18:54.45 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Barrow_Dens |
| 18:55.14 | Adys | Category:Zone Screenshots - Category:NPC Screenshots [Category:Old High Elf Models] - Category:Adapted Game Screenshots |
| 18:55.48 | Adys | Category:WoWWiki Icons - Category:Item Screenshots |
| 18:55.57 | Adys | think thats it |
| 18:56.33 | Hobinheim|work | watchout, the video was really good |
| 18:57.19 | Adys | oh oh, watchoutbot is running |
| 18:58.36 | watchout | I stopped it, it's gone a bit mad because of a little error of me :D |
| 18:59.16 | watchout | Hobinheim|work, I'm not finished with it yet |
| 19:00.19 | Adys | tell him how it ends! quick! |
| 19:00.47 | watchout | lol |
| 19:01.13 | watchout | haha http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Apprentice_Sash&oldid=540573 :D |
| 19:01.42 | kaso | scary |
| 19:04.42 | amro | watchout: avoid building robots with missiles please. |
| 19:06.06 | watchout | but missiles are so cool |
| 19:06.08 | Adys | LOL |
| 19:06.15 | watchout | they fly and go boom |
| 19:06.43 | Adys | (automated edit; Moving page from category Armor:Waist to <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en" dir=) |
| 19:06.47 | watchout | well I discovered another weakness of mediawiki :P |
| 19:07.31 | watchout | you want to turn the knife in the wound Adys ? |
| 19:07.41 | Hobinheim|work | the girl kills herself at the end of the vidoe |
| 19:07.50 | Adys | and lol Hobinheim|work |
| 19:08.16 | Hobinheim|work | she staged her own death to frame the sister but then the sister finds out |
| 19:08.27 | Adys | ok brb in 30 min |
| 19:08.33 | Hobinheim|work | omg it's like a cat exploded on the page |
| 19:09.30 | watchout | Hobinheim|work, the hasty one from the beginning? |
| 19:10.11 | watchout | she was like "glarblargrrrbllgrr bye" |
| 19:12.15 | Hobinheim|work | and she was all like mmmgggrrrlll and i was like RRRGGGLLLRRR |
| 19:12.37 | Hobinheim|work | and she's all like why don't you ever come home with any human and i'm like why don't you just shut your yapper |
| 19:14.34 | watchout | wha? |
| 19:21.01 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Blade_of_Wizardry |
| 19:21.01 | watchout | *starts the evil bot again* |
| 19:21.42 | watchout | hm, but somehow the server went down before the bot could start :P |
| 19:22.02 | amro | maybe it heard my warning :P |
| 19:22.42 | watchout | :D |
| 19:26.17 | Hobinheim|work | anyone ever use paypal in regards to running a side? |
| 19:26.18 | Hobinheim|work | *site? |
| 19:26.59 | watchout | sorry no |
| 19:26.59 | watchout | do you want to add a donation box for Wowwiki? |
| 19:31.50 | Hobinheim|work | no, thinking baout something else |
| 19:32.19 | amro | what's the elinks temp for mobs/npcs? |
| 19:32.39 | Hobinheim|work | no more elinks for npcs! |
| 19:32.42 | Hobinheim|work | use npcbox! |
| 19:33.05 | watchout | what? |
| 19:33.15 | Hobinheim|work | n/m i'm just going crazy |
| 19:33.27 | watchout | ah well |
| 19:33.39 | Adys|afk | amro: elinks-npc |
| 19:34.07 | watchout | elinks-NPC |
| 19:34.25 | watchout | its case sensitive afair |
| 19:35.16 | Adys | possibly |
| 19:36.57 | Adys | watchout |
| 19:37.09 | Adys | what the hell happened when your bot screwed up?oO |
| 19:41.29 | watchout | Adys, I don't know |
| 19:42.36 | watchout | Adys, are you there? |
| 19:42.42 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 19:42.51 | Adys | Im here every time you spell my nick |
| 19:43.00 | watchout | can you wipe the history of a page? |
| 19:43.10 | Adys | I can but its rather complicated |
| 19:43.22 | Adys | I need to delete the page and undelete only some edits |
| 19:43.28 | watchout | you may want to do that with the pages my bot messed up |
| 19:43.30 | Adys | I was actually gonna do it |
| 19:43.35 | Adys | but the wiki is down now |
| 19:43.39 | watchout | again? |
| 19:43.45 | Adys | well nothing loads for me |
| 19:43.59 | watchout | hm |
| 19:44.05 | Adys | can you pm me the links of the messed pages? Ill do that as soon as its up |
| 19:44.17 | watchout | sure |
| 19:44.36 | Adys | ta |
| 19:46.11 | watchout | its up again ;) |
| 19:47.16 | Adys | nope :( |
| 19:47.23 | watchout | I just... |
| 19:47.30 | Adys | its ALL YOUR FAULT!! |
| 19:47.44 | watchout | noo! |
| 19:47.51 | Adys | ill reboot my connexion brb |
| 19:50.20 | Bagginsww | stratholme had a zoo, LOL |
| 19:50.41 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-31-44.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:50.42 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:50.56 | Adys | yay |
| 19:52.42 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys2010 (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-31-44.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:52.58 | Adys2010 | miranda sucks more than infobot |
| 19:53.09 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:53.21 | Adys | right |
| 19:53.37 | watchout | so do you still have the list? :) |
| 19:53.44 | Adys | never got it :p |
| 19:53.53 | Adys | i crashed a bit there |
| 19:53.57 | watchout | lol |
| 19:54.01 | watchout | I'll resend |
| 19:54.59 | watchout | Adys, ? |
| 19:55.06 | Adys | not getting it |
| 19:55.11 | Adys | ah wait |
| 19:55.19 | Adys | i think you're not registered with the server |
| 19:55.23 | Adys | nevermind Ill do that alone ;) |
| 19:55.26 | watchout | oh ah yes |
| 19:55.33 | watchout | you know what... |
| 19:55.40 | watchout | <watchout> http://www.wowwiki.com/Beastmaster%27s_Belt |
| 19:55.40 | watchout | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.40 | watchout | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.40 | watchout | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:56.23 | watchout | though I think the wiki has cooled down now |
| 19:56.30 | Adys | its down again for me^^ |
| 20:00.52 | watchout | works well for me... |
| 20:01.25 | watchout | maybe in reality you're the one messing the wiki up :P |
| 20:02.49 | Adys | done |
| 20:03.35 | watchout | ty, and sorry for that... stupid bug :-/ |
| 20:03.43 | Adys | ^^ |
| 20:04.21 | watchout | hm, the edit still shows up in the history of arcanist belt |
| 20:06.02 | Adys | my bad |
| 20:07.30 | Adys | fixed |
| 20:07.30 | watchout | great :) |
| 20:10.52 | watchout | now.. can I start up the bot again ? :D |
| 20:11.53 | Adys | ofc |
| 20:13.17 | watchout | I've increased the interval by 2 more seconds |
| 20:13.28 | watchout | just to be sure |
| 20:14.24 | watchout | I give up. |
| 20:14.44 | Adys | having fun it seems ? :p |
| 20:16.17 | watchout | I don't know, the wiki breaks down after the 2nd edit... |
| 20:16.27 | Hobinheim|work | rogue is to making fun of them for not having imp sap as another class is to....? |
| 20:16.31 | Hobinheim|work | please completely the analogy |
| 20:16.43 | watchout | I set the bot to 60s and thats my last try |
| 20:17.17 | Adys | make fun of it for not being a rogue, hob? |
| 20:18.12 | Hobinheim|work | i was telling my rogue friend... back when i first started playing, it was very in vogue to make fun of rogues for not being imp sap |
| 20:18.21 | Hobinheim|work | i can't think of any other talent points that people make fun of non rogue classes for |
| 20:18.28 | Hobinheim|work | no one says to me LOLZ NUB LOCK NO IMP IMP |
| 20:18.37 | Hobinheim|work | maybe imp corr for other locks |
| 20:18.43 | Hobinheim|work | but no one else knows how to play a lock |
| 20:18.44 | Adys | improved arcane explosion for mages, back before 1.9 |
| 20:18.48 | Hobinheim|work | and yet everyone knows how to criticize a rogue |
| 20:18.58 | Hobinheim|work | i started at the end of 1.9 and the roll out of 1.10 |
| 20:18.59 | Adys | most likely tactical mastery for warriors |
| 20:19.10 | Adys | sorry back before 1.11 i meant |
| 20:19.20 | sancus | kinda depends on the context |
| 20:19.32 | sancus | theres lots and LOTS of talents people make fun of others for not having in raid specs |
| 20:19.45 | watch|AFKyay | "lol youre a destro lock haha" |
| 20:19.48 | sancus | priest without meditation? lol |
| 20:20.06 | sancus | priest without improved fort? lol |
| 20:20.21 | sancus | frost mage? lol |
| 20:20.22 | Adys | mages raidspecced make it worth not having improved frostbolt or improved fireball |
| 20:20.42 | sancus | The reason there wasn't much for 5-mans |
| 20:20.44 | Adys | LOL NOOB OMG |
| 20:20.44 | Adys | sry |
| 20:20.47 | Hobinheim|work | i hear the new kid on the block is arcane frost or FULL FROST |
| 20:20.50 | sancus | is because 5-mans are trivial and not worth speccing for |
| 20:21.04 | Hobinheim|work | something about a shatter build |
| 20:21.04 | sancus | That's a bit diff now with heroics |
| 20:21.19 | Hobinheim|work | also... people are saying CC is the most important aspect to a heroic. |
| 20:21.22 | sancus | yeah |
| 20:21.25 | Hobinheim|work | hunters are saying that BM is useless |
| 20:21.26 | sancus | it is |
| 20:21.27 | Adys | 50% increased crit on frozen targets, 5 talent points 2 pt prerequisite |
| 20:21.29 | Hobinheim|work | and that survival is pimping it up |
| 20:21.38 | Hobinheim|work | and that "perma trapping" is the new shit |
| 20:21.42 | sancus | The desired specs for heroics are not really any different than the desired spec for raids |
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| 20:21.47 | sancus | sooo there's al ot of overlap there |
| 20:22.02 | sancus | BM hunters are a joke in raids also |
| 20:22.29 | Hobinheim|work | i'll show you! |
| 20:22.37 | sancus | There's some really duummb mages who think that not having imp frostbolt/fireball makes sense for dps also |
| 20:22.41 | Hobinheim|work | HEAL MY PET! HEAL MY PET! HEAL MY P--- (Pooky dies.) |
| 20:22.45 | Feonix762 | Quick question.. can anyone tell me where/how I can get a list of the UI window names for WoW.. like LootFrame, MerchantFrame, etc |
| 20:23.01 | sancus | because of the 10% coefficient nerf |
| 20:23.07 | Hobinheim|work | Feonix762, might wanna try #wowi-lounge |
| 20:23.54 | Adys | sancus: it technically is true, since the 5 tps you free can be spent elsewhere |
| 20:24.03 | sancus | It's not true |
| 20:24.21 | sancus | You can't spend them anywhere else that is as good for increasing your dps |
| 20:24.29 | Adys | Im speaking of fire |
| 20:24.35 | sancus | what about fire? |
| 20:24.36 | Adys | i agree for frost |
| 20:24.39 | sancus | Scorch isn't viable for dps anyway |
| 20:24.50 | sancus | and raid mobs are immune to impact |
| 20:24.58 | Adys | it is extremely good for mana regen |
| 20:25.04 | sancus | no it's not |
| 20:25.26 | Adys | lvl 1 scorch keeping up +15% dmg, 59 mana every 1.5 sec |
| 20:25.27 | sancus | It lowers your mana per second consumed |
| 20:25.32 | Adys | and judgement of wisdom |
| 20:25.34 | sancus | but that's because you lower your DPS |
| 20:25.44 | sancus | It's somewhat better manawise |
| 20:25.54 | Adys | No not for use as main spell |
| 20:25.57 | sancus | But if you need to use Scorch, you're already fucked |
| 20:25.58 | Adys | for use when you're oom |
| 20:26.05 | sancus | yeah if you're oom you're already fucked |
| 20:26.13 | Adys | you ever tried rank 1? |
| 20:26.25 | sancus | I used to use it lots and lots pre-2.0 |
| 20:26.35 | sancus | in BC it was nerfed to shit |
| 20:26.44 | sancus | because there's a huge huge penalty to +dmg benefit |
| 20:26.54 | sancus | also |
| 20:27.00 | sancus | BC mana regen is such that if you run out of mana on raid fights |
| 20:27.03 | sancus | you are playing wrong |
| 20:27.16 | sancus | You can't even keep up with Warlocks spamming Fireball |
| 20:27.19 | sancus | so you better not run out of mana |
| 20:27.20 | sancus | because they never do |
| 20:27.32 | Adys | warlocks are broken as usual :p |
| 20:27.34 | sancus | If you have to drop down to Scorch |
| 20:27.39 | sancus | then you are double fucking yourself |
| 20:27.41 | sancus | even max rank Scorch |
| 20:28.01 | sancus | because your dps is going to die |
| 20:28.23 | sancus | If you have mana issues, you're better off speccing 40/21 arcane/fire |
| 20:28.27 | sancus | and weaving Arcane Blast |
| 20:29.01 | sancus | ab/ab/fireball/fireball/repeat |
| 20:30.25 | sancus | I really don't see a viable place to put those 5 points in Fire though |
| 20:30.30 | sancus | they have to be in the first two tiers of talents somewhere |
| 20:31.07 | sancus | and you can already take all dps talents in the tree for 45 points |
| 20:31.28 | sancus | impact doesn't increase your dps |
| 20:31.31 | sancus | and is useless in raids |
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| 20:37.41 | Adys | # |
| 20:37.42 | Adys | # Karazhan ?(1,488,782 views) |
| 20:37.42 | Adys | # Comparison of Aldor and Scryer rewards ?(1,454,647 views) |
| 20:37.50 | Adys | .. ^^ |
| 20:39.29 | sancus | but yeah warlock brokenness makes me sad |
| 20:39.32 | sancus | one of the reasons I'm not playing |
| 20:39.42 | sancus | It's actually funny how many Mages still think they're competitive just because they don't know any good locks |
| 20:42.53 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template%3AElinksitem :] |
| 20:43.52 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Elinksitem&redirect=no finally |
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| 20:50.49 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests#Requests :) |
| 20:59.52 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/s26160 I wonder where this spell is used |
| 21:00.34 | kaso | AV? |
| 21:00.44 | Adys | doubt it |
| 21:00.52 | Adys | its quest rewarded rep |
| 21:01.06 | Hobinheim|work | value 5? |
| 21:01.12 | Adys | +5 rep i guess |
| 21:01.12 | Hobinheim|work | it's proced when you kill something |
| 21:01.17 | Adys | No |
| 21:01.19 | Hobinheim|work | well... i can't think of any ironforge mobs |
| 21:01.23 | Hobinheim|work | but in theory... |
| 21:01.29 | Hobinheim|work | maybe enemy dwarves |
| 21:01.29 | Adys | theres no mob giving IF rep and it's "kill rep" in this case |
| 21:01.44 | Hobinheim|work | right |
| 21:01.50 | Adys | theres no spell proccing when you kill something, its an onevent thing |
| 21:02.15 | Adys | like experience |
| 21:02.20 | Adys | or honor |
| 21:02.27 | Hobinheim|work | well. right |
| 21:02.33 | Hobinheim|work | to blizzard it's probably all the same |
| 21:02.37 | Hobinheim|work | spell triggers and what not |
| 21:02.57 | Adys | doubt a spell could allow scaling on level, lvl 70 killing a lvl 10 mob |
| 21:03.12 | Adys | tho im thinking with the nerf they did to items they might but well whatever i know its not kill rep |
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| 21:27.20 | Adys | it impresses me some people level a human to 70 and don't know that they have a reputation gain bonus |
| 21:27.26 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Kurenai&action=history |
| 21:28.01 | Tekkub | I already bitched him out |
| 21:28.09 | Tekkub | he does it again he gets a ban |
| 21:30.58 | Hobinheim|work | tek, do you use windows |
| 21:31.04 | Tekkub | yar |
| 21:31.19 | Hobinheim|work | read up about windows home server |
| 21:31.27 | Hobinheim|work | i'm having a nerd gasm reading about it |
| 21:31.29 | Tekkub | read? |
| 21:31.35 | Tekkub | I'm using it |
| 21:31.37 | Hobinheim|work | you basically dedicate one tower in your house to do backups |
| 21:31.38 | Hobinheim|work | LOL REALLY |
| 21:31.40 | Hobinheim|work | HOW IS IT |
| 21:32.24 | Tekkub | it gets confused, thinks it's in a domain, and shuts it'sself down after 1h45m if I don't go in and suspend the process that checks license shit every bootup |
| 21:32.37 | Tekkub | it's beta, it has it's issues |
| 21:33.18 | Tekkub | or like, I just added my last drive, gave it 150GiB free, turn on duplication for my music folder (20GiB) and it's erroring saying there's no room to dup |
| 21:33.40 | Hobinheim|work | =/ |
| 21:33.45 | Hobinheim|work | still sounds sexy tho |
| 21:35.47 | Tekkub | the drive spanning is exactly what I've been trying to do manually on linux for a while now |
| 21:36.09 | Tekkub | it just needs to rebalance drive usage better when you add a drive |
| 21:36.33 | Tekkub | cause *everyone* is going to fill up a drive then add another, not start with 3 empty drives |
| 21:36.54 | Tekkub | so when you add a drive, it should move shit to it to balance usage... if it doesn't already |
| 21:37.08 | Tekkub | I don't think I can find out each drive's actual use |
| 21:39.13 | Tekkub | hrm, maybe it does rebalance over time |
| 21:39.27 | Tekkub | my newest drive has only 7% free |
| 21:40.25 | Tekkub | the second drive I added has 11%, the first drive, the one with the OS, 63% free |
| 21:40.29 | Hobinheim|work | i heard it stores things on drives at the folder level |
| 21:40.29 | Tekkub | it left exactly 8GiB free on the second and third drive :) |
| 21:40.31 | Hobinheim|work | so oflders witll never span two drives |
| 21:40.51 | Tekkub | well not exactly 8GiB |
| 21:41.09 | Tekkub | but at least it rearranges |
| 21:41.20 | Hobinheim|work | i'm so like... nerd on for this kinda stuff |
| 21:41.27 | Tekkub | maybe that's what they're calling the "defrag" on sunday maintenance |
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| 21:41.47 | Hobinheim|work | hey buddy what did you just call me? |
| 21:41.56 | Hobinheim|work | i don't take kindly to that kinda language, "defrag" |
| 21:41.57 | Tekkub | since defrag on a spanned volume is a bit more complex |
| 21:42.45 | Tekkub | the backup system is very nicely done |
| 21:43.11 | Tekkub | 5 comps (3 wista 2 seXP) takin up 27GiB |
| 21:43.32 | Tekkub | though it gets all bitchy on every client if one is missed |
| 21:44.06 | Tekkub | they need settings on install of the client, only one per house needs the reminders and quick admin access |
| 21:44.19 | Tekkub | the others should be "dumb" backup clients |
| 21:44.37 | Hobinheim|work | i wish linux was this sexy |
| 21:44.42 | Hobinheim|work | so i could string together old computers |
| 21:44.45 | Hobinheim|work | and make monster computers |
| 21:45.09 | Tekkub | yea linux worked fine for me EXCEPT getting the drive spanning of many odd sized drives |
| 21:45.32 | Tekkub | every attempt to array my drives ended in me losing my data |
| 21:45.42 | Tekkub | both on win and linux |
| 21:46.14 | Tekkub | this is exactly what I wanted, independant drives concatted together, but still work independantly if removed |
| 21:47.28 | Bagginsww | So kirkburn the only orcs specifically called "chaos orcs" are those that drink from chaos well... I would argue article currently called "Chaos Orc Slavemaster" should probably be changed to Fel orc, as he was a red skinned blackrock clan member. He never drank from the chaos well. and he's specifically said to be of the chaos orcs, or fel orcs. |
| 21:47.31 | Tekkub | oh and you can't make hidden shares, needs that to hide porn from the roomie |
| 21:47.46 | Bagginsww | well I changed it to Blackrock Slave Master instead |
| 21:49.01 | Hobinheim|work | in a better world, we wouldn't need to hide our porn |
| 21:49.21 | Tekkub | I'm afraid he'd like it |
| 21:49.38 | Tekkub | he doesn't need to be that kinky, he's already got his own freaky kink stuff |
| 21:50.28 | Bagginsww | same with, Jubei'Thos |
| 21:50.28 | Bagginsww | , he's not listed as "chaos orc" in game |
| 21:50.28 | Bagginsww | He's not said to be fel orc either. |
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| 21:50.36 | Bagginsww | but since he wasn't part of those that drank from chaos well, he has to be just a standard fel orc. |
| 21:50.43 | amro_ | jubei'thos is blackrock. he's in that mission Blackrock & Roll, too! |
| 21:51.35 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 21:51.43 | Bagginsww | which is way before Chaos Well, :) |
| 21:52.10 | Bagginsww | we don't hear about "chaos orcs" as a term until after Chaos Well event |
| 21:52.35 | Bagginsww | and its limited to recorrupted warsong orcs. |
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| 22:24.20 | Skyfire | OMFG THEY DID IT |
| 22:24.37 | Skyfire | thottbot completely converted everything |
| 22:24.38 | Lysistrata | Division by Zero? Or what exactly? |
| 22:24.43 | Skyfire | or at least their items |
| 22:24.44 | Lysistrata | Ah Ok ... |
| 22:24.54 | Skyfire | we have an admin on? |
| 22:25.04 | Adys | mm |
| 22:25.07 | Lysistrata | And to what did they convert their items? |
| 22:25.17 | Adys | they changed the IDs |
| 22:25.21 | Skyfire | thottbot.com/i(ID) |
| 22:25.29 | Adys | item=ID also works |
| 22:25.38 | Adys | Skyfire: what do you need? |
| 22:25.41 | Skyfire | completely |
| 22:25.41 | Skyfire | comments and all |
| 22:25.57 | Skyfire | yes, but those don't show the comments i dont think |
| 22:26.03 | Karrion | wow |
| 22:26.14 | Karrion | such is the power of wowwiki |
| 22:26.20 | Skyfire | nvm |
| 22:26.39 | Adys | been going on for a while karrion, i guess we only speeded up the process |
| 22:26.40 | Skyfire | it seems that thottbot/?item=id does work |
| 22:26.44 | Skyfire | :] |
| 22:26.48 | Adys | and aye it does |
| 22:27.15 | Adys | did you need something? |
| 22:27.16 | Adys | [12 Mar 07 23:25] * Skyfire * we have an admin on? |
| 22:27.57 | Skyfire | not anymore |
| 22:28.04 | Adys | okay |
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| 22:28.22 | Skyfire | would've needed an edit to {{elinks-item}} but it seems it doesn't matter if we use ?item=id or iID |
| 22:28.24 | Skyfire | :] |
| 22:28.50 | Adys | reminds me i actually need to change elinks-item to show up correctly wowhead |
| 22:29.11 | Skyfire | whatdoyamean? :x |
| 22:31.40 | Gryphen | Thott said he wont stop supporting item= |
| 22:32.01 | Adys | you mean i= ? |
| 22:32.07 | Gryphen | no |
| 22:32.19 | Adys | item= is the new one no? |
| 22:32.22 | Skyfire | no |
| 22:32.24 | Gryphen | even though he now uses i2134 he wont stop supporting item=1234 |
| 22:32.29 | Adys | aah |
| 22:32.35 | Skyfire | it's acutally ?item= :x |
| 22:32.37 | Gryphen | item= and it= have been there, i= was just default |
| 22:33.50 | Skyfire | http://www.thottbot.com/i29510 and http://www.thottbot.com/?item=29510 should both link to the same items; the old format was thottbot.com/?i=(TBID) |
| 22:34.44 | Gryphen | i= isnt really old, just different :) |
| 22:34.50 | Gryphen | and staying |
| 22:34.51 | Gryphen | heh |
| 22:35.19 | Adys | from #wowace - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.0 |
| 22:36.06 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:37.29 | Gryphen | what is wrong with elinks adys? |
| 22:37.41 | Adys | wowhead is under allakhazam, it should be over it |
| 22:37.49 | Gryphen | it is |
| 22:38.00 | Adys | not if there is no ID specified |
| 22:38.18 | Gryphen | what was the reasoning in that edit? |
| 22:38.25 | Gryphen | irc isnt exactly permanent record |
| 22:38.29 | Gryphen | talk page should be used |
| 22:38.48 | Adys | We agreed on wowhead being above allakhazam ages ago |
| 22:38.52 | Adys | and on a talk page iirc |
| 22:40.02 | Skyfire | well, there goes any semblance of npov |
| 22:40.02 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 22:40.09 | Gryphen | ya |
| 22:40.19 | Skyfire | oh well |
| 22:40.39 | Skyfire | is wowwiki, not wikipedia bbqwtfpwnzored! |
| 22:41.09 | Skyfire | did you break it... |
| 22:41.38 | Adys | yus |
| 22:41.42 | Laraul | I need tools for extracting MPQ files |
| 22:41.50 | Skyfire | bad adys |
| 22:41.54 | Skyfire | bad bad adys |
| 22:41.58 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 22:42.13 | amro | Laraul: WInMPQ |
| 22:42.15 | Adys | Laraul: try WinMPQ, MPQMaster |
| 22:42.29 | Adys | what was the third one.. something like MPQEdit |
| 22:42.31 | Laraul | they are gzip files right? |
| 22:42.40 | Adys | Noes |
| 22:43.41 | Laraul | Noes? |
| 22:43.55 | Skyfire | oh well, at least i haven't gotten a "wowwiki has a problem" message... |
| 22:43.58 | amro | MPQ = Mike O'Brien Pack, its a custom archive format |
| 22:44.04 | Skyfire | it won't load at all :x |
| 22:45.01 | amro | are pages like Special:DoubleRedirects protected from being refreshed too often? |
| 22:45.08 | Skyfire | btw, we decided henceforth that the server is to be named Kenny; |
| 22:45.38 | Adys | amro: no, but they might not be up to date following a very big template edit |
| 22:45.41 | Laraul | But blizzard uses zlib right? |
| 22:45.57 | Adys | Laraul: mpq is their own zipping format |
| 22:46.00 | Adys | and its shit, btw |
| 22:46.29 | Laraul | They used to be gzip |
| 22:46.35 | amro | no |
| 22:46.38 | Adys | Nope |
| 22:46.39 | Laraul | Yes |
| 22:46.41 | amro | they were MPQ since diablo |
| 22:46.57 | amro | maybe even warcraft 2 |
| 22:46.57 | Adys | at least my oldest alpha client of wow is running with MPQs |
| 22:46.57 | Bagginsww | hmm its really dead |
| 22:47.10 | Laraul | WC2 didn't use mpq files I don't think |
| 22:47.22 | Skyfire | gd its still dead.. |
| 22:47.23 | Skyfire | :x |
| 22:47.31 | amro | well then it must've started with diablo, and all blizz games since use it |
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| 22:47.46 | Adys | diablo II, wc III and wow use MPQs that Im sure |
| 22:48.03 | Skyfire | you guys are forgetting starcraft... |
| 22:48.04 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 22:48.12 | Laraul | yeah diablo... but originally they used PKZIP |
| 22:48.14 | Adys | i never played starcraft :p |
| 22:48.21 | Skyfire | you missed out |
| 22:48.22 | Skyfire | ;p |
| 22:48.54 | amro | oh yeah, I thought I mentioned it |
| 22:49.15 | amro | good ol' days, kidnapping the map editor and using it to write to MPQs |
| 22:49.35 | Adys | hehehe |
| 22:50.38 | Laraul | I in OSX right now |
| 22:50.40 | Skyfire | you really did kill it adys... |
| 22:50.46 | amro | still I'm surprised blizz didn't use something better. wow folder is going to keep growing |
| 22:51.57 | Skyfire | it took like 3 minutes just to have the main page load... |
| 22:52.18 | Lysistrata | amro its a more or less modern game what do you expect? |
| 22:52.45 | Lysistrata | WoW+BC takes up how much? 5 Gig? Thats not that much anymore ... |
| 22:53.05 | Skyfire | terrabyte! |
| 22:53.05 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 22:53.07 | Skyfire | why anyone would need that much space... |
| 22:53.36 | Lysistrata | It would come in handy some times ;) |
| 22:54.03 | Lysistrata | Recently I installed Flight Simulator X ... 15 Gig ^^ |
| 22:54.36 | Skyfire | damn |
| 22:55.19 | Skyfire | oh no adys... not again |
| 22:55.42 | Skyfire | oh good |
| 22:57.12 | Adys | what the hell? |
| 22:57.15 | Adys | it didnt ding me |
| 22:57.33 | Adys | can you type "adys" and "adys." in two separated messages skyfire? |
| 22:58.30 | Skyfire | adys |
| 22:58.32 | Skyfire | adys. |
| 22:58.37 | Adys | wth |
| 22:58.41 | Adys | it still dings me |
| 22:58.58 | Adys | miranda you suck! |
| 22:59.01 | Adys | infobot, miranda? |
| 22:59.03 | infobot | You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law; You have the right to consult with an attorney and/or to have one present when questioned by the police; and If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you. |
| 22:59.14 | Adys | as i said. miranda sucks |
| 22:59.32 | Skyfire | uh... |
| 22:59.41 | Skyfire | i will choose to remain silent |
| 23:00.33 | bleetah | adys: you could, at a pinch I guess, try using gaim |
| 23:00.42 | bleetah | i'll let you ;) |
| 23:00.45 | Adys | meh im used to miranda |
| 23:00.52 | bleetah | fair nuff |
| 23:01.02 | Adys | its like asking me to start using another interface |
| 23:01.05 | Laraul | 3:45:54 PM: <Adys> Laraul: mpq is their own zipping format <--- lol "own" zipping format? They probably aren't "compressed" just merged together |
| 23:01.58 | Laraul | Then use simple bit rotation |
| 23:02.00 | Laraul | Or something |
| 23:02.01 | sancus | the compression is zlib |
| 23:02.07 | sancus | if it's used at all |
| 23:02.13 | sancus | (not always) |
| 23:02.30 | Laraul | Well they don't mention the zlip libs in thhe credits |
| 23:03.24 | Lysistrata | just another gnu violation ... or they licensed something else whatever ^^ |
| 23:04.07 | sancus | zlib is NOT gnu |
| 23:04.12 | |Pixel| | "license violation"... |
| 23:04.13 | |Pixel| | duh |
| 23:04.14 | bleetah | http://www.zlib.net/apps.html |
| 23:04.18 | |Pixel| | http://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib_license.html |
| 23:04.25 | |Pixel| | If you use this software |
| 23:04.25 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.25 | |Pixel| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.37 | Lysistrata | sorry I'm not always aware which software uses which licensing system and stuff |
| 23:05.43 | Laraul | The mac version should support .mpdq files |
| 23:05.46 | sancus | I'm pretty sure that the WoW mpqs aren't compressed, anyway |
| 23:05.57 | Laraul | er .mpqd |
| 23:06.09 | sancus | as that site bleetah linked says, war3 used it |
| 23:06.21 | bleetah | http://www.zlib.net/zlib_faq.html#faq22 and 23 ...http://www.zlib.net/zlib_license.html |
| 23:06.26 | |Pixel| | I think I remember some files in mpqs are using the deflate algo |
| 23:06.32 | Laraul | i know war3 used it i remember it in the credits :) |
| 23:07.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fel_orc#Types_of_Fel_Orcs |
| 23:07.11 | Bagginsww | touched up the articles ab it |
| 23:07.11 | sancus | deflate == zlib |
| 23:07.15 | sancus | they used to use pkzip before war3 I think |
| 23:07.21 | Laraul | yeah |
| 23:07.22 | Bagginsww | thinking we might want to seperate chaos orcs to its own article |
| 23:07.29 | Bagginsww | in which we can expand on its history |
| 23:07.44 | Skyfire | RANDOMMMMMMM |
| 23:07.50 | Laraul | though pkzip i think is limited to files less than 2GB |
| 23:07.56 | bleetah | i'm sure if they wanted to really use compression, they'd move to 7z anyways ;) |
| 23:07.58 | Skyfire | can't you tell they're having a rather important discussion baggins? ;P |
| 23:08.17 | Laraul | 7z? |
| 23:08.35 | bleetah | http://www.7-zip.org/ |
| 23:08.41 | Laraul | omigod they're .dmg files (i wish) |
| 23:09.09 | bleetah | the 'natural' replacement for zip, gz and bzip2 |
| 23:09.28 | sancus | huh |
| 23:09.30 | Laraul | zip files don't support multiple data streams though |
| 23:09.37 | sancus | 7z is just an archive format not a compression format |
| 23:10.14 | bleetah | then, er, explain the compression figures on their home page |
| 23:10.21 | bleetah | and their 'high compression ratio' claim |
| 23:10.33 | bleetah | actually, crap, no, gotta go to airport and collect my mother :P |
| 23:10.37 | bleetah | ttfn |
| 23:10.51 | sancus | it says LZMA right on the page ;p |
| 23:11.54 | bleetah | :p true still the lib itself is the natural replacement for the other compression programs |
| 23:11.58 | bleetah | gtg |
| 23:14.15 | Laraul | winmpq uses vb |
| 23:14.21 | Laraul | What else is there? |
| 23:17.04 | Laraul | seriously there must be something for osx |
| 23:19.28 | Tekkub | damn hippies |
| 23:19.47 | Tekkub | so when's the site upgrade supposed to happen? I want my CSS /cry |
| 23:19.54 | Tekkub | *pokes kirk* |
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| 23:20.50 | Skyfire | Adys, you have a fan... |
| 23:20.53 | Skyfire | <_< |
| 23:20.54 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 23:31.47 | Skyfire | omfg, i found an icon the wiki doesn't have |
| 23:31.50 | Skyfire | >:) |
| 23:32.21 | Laraul | Is common.mpq suppost to have no hierarchy structure? |
| 23:37.08 | Skyfire | gg |
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| 23:43.35 | Adys2010 | a fan? |
| 23:43.36 | Adys2010 | where? |
| 23:43.41 | Adys2010 | Oh shit |
| 23:43.47 | Adys2010 | Nick Adys |
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| 23:45.08 | Adys | Laraul: nah it has structure but its just too heavy |
| 23:45.20 | Laraul | huh? |
| 23:45.21 | Adys | not all editors can read it |
| 23:45.26 | Adys | 3gb n stuff |
| 23:45.36 | Laraul | Well the other MPQs did |
| 23:45.47 | Adys | yeah but common.mpq is too big |
| 23:46.03 | Laraul | oh wait now it shows the hierarchy |
| 23:47.33 | Laraul | where is this thing extracting files too? |
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| 23:50.23 | Laraul | oh christ it must be saving them to the VM disk |