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| 01:16.48 | Zeal | lo all |
| 01:19.39 | Zeal | bah, oKirkburn, that rabbit game is lame, rabbit is lagging behind the mouse :( |
| 01:19.52 | Zeal | rabbits aren't slow.. pfft |
| 01:19.52 | oKirkburn | hehe |
| 01:19.57 | oKirkburn | It's all about timing, noob |
| 01:20.02 | Zeal | nope |
| 01:20.06 | Zeal | its about positioning |
| 01:20.15 | Zeal | which you can't do with a lagging control system :P |
| 01:22.59 | oKirkburn | heh |
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| 01:23.15 | oKirkburn | This is a reallt beautiful story - http://www.zanorg.com/virginie/eng/ |
| 01:23.18 | oKirkburn | *really |
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| 01:29.44 | Zeal | argh |
| 01:29.44 | Sky2042 | what? |
| 01:30.50 | Zeal | large net split? |
| 01:30.50 | Sky2042 | eh |
| 01:30.50 | Zeal | you missed it, lol |
| 01:30.50 | Sky2042 | :x |
| 01:30.50 | Sky2042 | there's soething else i discovered about {{tooltip}} and I'm not sure if it is deliberate or not... |
| 01:31.09 | Zeal | oKirkburn, delete http://www.wowwiki.com/%3D%3D_Winky_%3D%3D and http://www.wowwiki.com/Dragon_FUCKERS%21 plx |
| 01:31.20 | Zeal | go ahead sky |
| 01:31.33 | Sky2042 | with transcluded pages, certain features don't show up |
| 01:31.47 | Zeal | working as intended :p |
| 01:31.52 | Sky2042 | ;( |
| 01:31.59 | Sky2042 | "Sell" doesn't show up, for one... |
| 01:32.12 | Zeal | it's supposed to drop all non-default information when used outside it's own page |
| 01:32.32 | oKirkburn | Zeal, done :) |
| 01:32.34 | Zeal | Sell, Vendor, Ilvl, Source, Use etc |
| 01:32.38 | Sky2042 | then why does "Source" show up outside?.... -_- |
| 01:32.45 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 01:32.46 | Zeal | i shouldn't :s |
| 01:32.50 | Sky2042 | it does |
| 01:32.50 | Zeal | *it's |
| 01:32.58 | Zeal | i blame fandyllic for that.. |
| 01:33.05 | Sky2042 | it's not a bad thing in that case |
| 01:33.12 | oKirkburn | I love netsplits :P |
| 01:33.15 | Sky2042 | source is prolly alright... |
| 01:33.18 | Sky2042 | :x |
| 01:35.45 | Zeal | nope |
| 01:35.46 | Zeal | it dies |
| 01:35.55 | Zeal | and should be fixed any sec now |
| 01:38.10 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:40.23 | Sky2042 | i don't like ppl who don't make new pages based on the boilerplate... :x |
| 01:42.33 | Sky2042 | argh |
| 01:45.18 | Zeal | thats why i changed it urgently :P |
| 01:45.18 | Zeal | bah, database error on tooltip edit, lame : / |
| 01:45.37 | Zeal | that to me still seems a failing on the part of the software/server set up, and not conditionals. |
| 01:48.47 | Sky2042 | huh? |
| 01:48.52 | Sky2042 | you are straaaaaaaaange ;P |
| 01:52.43 | Tekkub | merf |
| 01:52.49 | Tekkub | hey beaZEALbub |
| 01:53.02 | Tekkub | elinks all ready to go or did ya wanna do more to it? |
| 01:54.56 | Zeal | nah, it's all ready if everyone is happy |
| 01:55.02 | Zeal | want me to add documentation first? |
| 01:55.22 | Sky2042 | documentation is good ;p |
| 01:56.33 | Zeal | i desire to rename the template anyways.. |
| 01:56.33 | Sky2042 | uh oh... |
| 01:57.07 | Zeal | Elinks-Item or Elinks/Item? |
| 01:57.34 | Sky2042 | I like elinksitem just fine, tyvm |
| 01:57.40 | Zeal | i don't |
| 01:57.57 | Zeal | cos it's hard to read and is not obvious it should be used as part of Elinks |
| 01:58.14 | Zeal | - it is.. |
| 02:00.51 | Sky2042 | what are the units for width with tooltip? don |
| 02:01.00 | Sky2042 | 't want to look it up... ;( |
| 02:03.47 | Zeal | you specify them yourself |
| 02:03.53 | Zeal | but i suggest you use em |
| 02:04.12 | Zeal | 18em being the standard |
| 02:05.32 | oKirkburn | What about a Thott icon? :) |
| 02:05.36 | Sky2042 | yeah, i just use the standard... what's the command for sockets? |
| 02:05.43 | Sky2042 | >_< |
| 02:06.07 | Zeal | the thott icon is there |
| 02:06.19 | oKirkburn | Okay, cool |
| 02:06.33 | Zeal | socket=|sockets={{socket|<colour>}} iirc |
| 02:06.45 | Zeal | wait.. |
| 02:06.50 | Zeal | socket needs a value i think.. |
| 02:06.59 | Zeal | so like 1 or 900000000 |
| 02:07.00 | Zeal | :s |
| 02:07.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:07.09 | Sky2042 | oh boy |
| 02:07.24 | oKirkburn | Ah, good choice with the Thott icon |
| 02:07.45 | oKirkburn | I'm going retro and gonna play HL:Source |
| 02:07.47 | Zeal | ok, well considering i can't see any history for elinksitem as to it'screation, leave it with jsut me and tekkub. |
| 02:07.53 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:07.55 | Zeal | retro |
| 02:08.29 | oKirkburn | Crappy textures and models, but awesome water ;) |
| 02:13.12 | Zeal | rofl |
| 02:13.17 | Sky2042 | truth |
| 02:13.36 | Sky2042 | anyway, why don't you change "Author" to "Main Contributor(s)"?... |
| 02:13.42 | Sky2042 | :x |
| 02:14.08 | oKirkburn | That would indeed help defuse the annoyance |
| 02:14.23 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 02:14.36 | Zeal | they mean the same thing |
| 02:14.59 | Sky2042 | but have different weights, if you catch my drift |
| 02:15.19 | Zeal | kikburn, can you change http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinksitem to "#REDIRECT [[Elinks-item]]" plx |
| 02:15.20 | Sky2042 | Main Contributor(s) doesn't have quite the finality that Author does |
| 02:15.29 | Sky2042 | uh oh |
| 02:15.36 | Sky2042 | that'll kill the server |
| 02:15.43 | Zeal | shouldn't |
| 02:15.50 | Zeal | no more thna anything else has recently |
| 02:15.53 | Sky2042 | with every item page including it?... |
| 02:16.09 | Sky2042 | not a large change, but many small changes.... |
| 02:16.29 | Zeal | if i changed it to Support for example, it would make more sense |
| 02:17.00 | Zeal | it would also make sense to actually have soemthing that says "for extra support or immediate attention, contact the author(s)" |
| 02:17.00 | Sky2042 | why not ;p |
| 02:17.19 | Zeal | not on each page ofc, but on a help page for templates |
| 02:17.31 | Zeal | with the template team however.. |
| 02:17.40 | Zeal | you can remove it completely |
| 02:17.58 | Zeal | so in which case.. i cba, and it can be addressed then |
| 02:19.08 | Sky2042 | told you the server would die ;p |
| 02:19.24 | Sky2042 | nvm |
| 02:19.33 | Sky2042 | that's just me and my stupid wireless connection -_- |
| 02:19.38 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:23.32 | Zeal | fucking hate soruce pages.. |
| 02:23.40 | Zeal | can't control what you select properly |
| 02:24.09 | Zeal | ie, not shift-left/right, and reliant on OS dependant auto-selection |
| 02:24.14 | Zeal | *no |
| 02:27.27 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:28.02 | Zeal | kikburn, also can you change http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinksmob to "#REDIRECT [[Elinks-NPC]]" plx |
| 02:28.55 | Sky2042 | he never made the other change that i saw ;x |
| 02:30.02 | Sky2042 | btw, you'll have to edit [[Boilerplate:Item]] with it too |
| 02:33.21 | Zeal | i know (to both) |
| 02:33.34 | Zeal | it's because i haven't said oKirkburn :p |
| 02:34.10 | Sky2042 | um, the second allakhazam on [[Template:Elinks]] link didn't work... |
| 02:34.23 | Sky2042 | that made sense! |
| 02:35.33 | Zeal | hm? |
| 02:35.53 | Zeal | good catch.. |
| 02:36.10 | oKirkburn | Actually it's because I was waiting for the discussion to finish first :) |
| 02:36.18 | Sky2042 | bingo |
| 02:36.23 | Sky2042 | i knew it! |
| 02:36.38 | Sky2042 | still doesn't work zeal -_- |
| 02:36.52 | Zeal | i'm doing it now , paitience |
| 02:37.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:37.12 | Zeal | fair enough oKirkburn, only doing this because of tekkub :P |
| 02:37.28 | Zeal | there, fixed Sky2042 |
| 02:37.50 | Sky2042 | yup yup |
| 02:38.00 | oKirkburn | If you want me to change something, at least get your redirect code right :) |
| 02:38.20 | oKirkburn | Gonna do the NPC one first |
| 02:38.40 | Sky2042 | the npc code looks fine... :x |
| 02:38.40 | Zeal | it is right |
| 02:38.51 | oKirkburn | Off it goes |
| 02:39.00 | oKirkburn | You forgot "Template:" |
| 02:39.19 | Sky2042 | ooooooooooooooooo burn |
| 02:39.21 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 02:39.23 | Zeal | oh |
| 02:39.23 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:39.28 | oKirkburn | #REDIRECT [[Template:Elinks-NPC]] |
| 02:39.28 | oKirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.03 | Sky2042 | and down it goes, into fiery flames... |
| 02:40.11 | Zeal | i should have actually pointed out something before doing that though.. but as with icon, shall correct as we go. |
| 02:40.46 | Sky2042 | "fiery flames" is redundant, isn't it? :x |
| 02:41.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:41.04 | Zeal | indeed |
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| 02:41.22 | Zeal | timely arrival Tekkub |
| 02:41.22 | Sky2042 | and there's tekkub, right on schedule |
| 02:41.26 | Sky2042 | lol! |
| 02:41.35 | Tekkub | oh really? |
| 02:41.37 | Tekkub | watch this! |
| 02:41.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:41.45 | Sky2042 | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:41.51 | Sky2042 | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:41.58 | Sky2042 | ad infinitum |
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| 02:42.11 | Tekkub | muahahaha! |
| 02:42.13 | Tekkub | that sowed you |
| 02:42.16 | Sky2042 | :O |
| 02:42.17 | Tekkub | *showed |
| 02:42.26 | Sky2042 | i've been sowed! |
| 02:42.31 | Sky2042 | so, who made me a cow? |
| 02:42.35 | Sky2042 | or is it pig? |
| 02:42.37 | Sky2042 | pig! |
| 02:42.41 | Tekkub | quiet you |
| 02:42.41 | Zeal | oKirkburn, one last thing. i would suggest protecting Template:Elinks now. |
| 02:42.45 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 02:42.48 | Tekkub | don't make fun of my disability |
| 02:43.02 | Tekkub | thought it was protected |
| 02:43.08 | Zeal | that one, nope |
| 02:43.12 | Zeal | it wasn't even being used |
| 02:43.17 | Tekkub | oh, new one |
| 02:43.19 | Tekkub | aye |
| 02:43.52 | Sky2042 | "WoWWiki has a problem" ^^ |
| 02:43.58 | Sky2042 | Me > Zeal, tbh |
| 02:45.10 | Zeal | npc killed it, item caused problems |
| 02:45.11 | Zeal | heh |
| 02:45.15 | Sky2042 | question, zeal, with elinks-npc... |
| 02:45.26 | Sky2042 | what's with the red asterisks after each link? |
| 02:45.40 | Tekkub | oh yea |
| 02:45.46 | Tekkub | they suck |
| 02:45.47 | Tekkub | :) |
| 02:45.49 | Zeal | *NPC ;) |
| 02:45.53 | Sky2042 | w/e |
| 02:45.57 | Sky2042 | answer the question, you! |
| 02:46.00 | Zeal | unless people wnat to complain about that being capital, pfft. |
| 02:46.02 | Tekkub | hover bitch |
| 02:46.07 | Zeal | Sky2042, hover over them. |
| 02:46.17 | Sky2042 | oh |
| 02:46.20 | Sky2042 | :O |
| 02:46.25 | Sky2042 | that's preeeeetty |
| 02:47.00 | Sky2042 | ok, new question: what does "mob id (depreciated)" mean? :x |
| 02:47.14 | Zeal | it says mob? :o |
| 02:47.27 | Sky2042 | god, gtfo! just answer the question ;( |
| 02:47.31 | Zeal | means it's the depreciated method of specifying it. |
| 02:47.36 | Sky2042 | meeeeeeaning? |
| 02:47.49 | Sky2042 | ok, let me rephrase |
| 02:47.58 | Sky2042 | what's the difference between that and "NPC ID" |
| 02:48.27 | oKirkburn | Other redirect going thru now |
| 02:48.28 | Tekkub | buttsecks |
| 02:48.40 | oKirkburn | Protected Elinks and Elinks-NPC |
| 02:48.54 | oKirkburn | Tekkub ..... Surprise! |
| 02:48.58 | Sky2042 | you forgot the surprise tekkub |
| 02:48.58 | Zeal | currently, all pages are using {{elinksmob|<thottbot ID>|<NPC ID>}} it's now set to {{elinks-NPC|<NPC ID>|<tb=>}} yet specifying the NPC ID second, will still work, just throw up that little warning. |
| 02:49.12 | Zeal | didn't really need to protect the sub templates oKirkburn, but kk |
| 02:49.20 | Tekkub | oh no, it was planned |
| 02:49.25 | oKirkburn | Just did it as a precaution |
| 02:49.42 | Zeal | yeah, as to what i neglected to mention |
| 02:49.49 | oKirkburn | mmhmm? |
| 02:50.10 | Zeal | all the pages are now missing the External Links header. need to add it manaully as we go. |
| 02:50.31 | oKirkburn | Ouch |
| 02:50.42 | Tekkub | yea zeal, you should make a big banner if they're using the depreciated args so that people notice and fix |
| 02:50.47 | Tekkub | instead of the shitty lil * |
| 02:50.50 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:50.58 | Zeal | well i'll leave that to further discussion tekkub |
| 02:51.04 | Tekkub | =========== BIG FULL WIDTH HEADER ================== |
| 02:51.34 | Zeal | people complain about obnoxious banners being two big.. so i thought i won't aggro those people :P |
| 02:52.01 | Sky2042 | Oh yeah, nothing was using the {{elinksmob}} template... -_- http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Elinks-NPC&limit=500&from=0 |
| 02:52.10 | Sky2042 | "two?" ;p |
| 02:52.54 | Zeal | anyways, the change was needed in order to let custom links and combination of different elink types for being used. it also means, instead of people accidentally trying to edit each one, they're only accidentally edit Elinks, which is now protected. |
| 02:53.23 | Zeal | huh sky? |
| 02:53.48 | oKirkburn | Tekkub, you know =========== BIG FULL WIDTH HEADER ================== would be like H11, and therefore about 1px high? ;) |
| 02:53.55 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:54.15 | Tekkub | no no no that wasn't wikikode |
| 02:54.16 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:54.21 | Tekkub | that was ascii art |
| 02:54.24 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:54.33 | Zeal | sky, was that sarcasm? cos i never said nothing was using it :s i said nothing was using Elinks (well except on someone's user page) |
| 02:54.42 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:55.18 | Zeal | slow wiki? : ( |
| 02:55.26 | Sky2042 | eh, nvm. i r having b4d intirputeng s|<i11z |
| 02:55.30 | oKirkburn | Tekkub, yeah whateva :P |
| 02:55.36 | oKirkburn | Zeal, still doing the Elinks stuff |
| 02:55.48 | oKirkburn | There's a shedload of items |
| 02:55.49 | Tekkub | Birkkurn! |
| 02:55.58 | oKirkburn | Note that vlad_ probably hates us right now |
| 02:56.15 | Zeal | huh oKirkburn? it was working fine since then :S |
| 02:56.27 | oKirkburn | I hadn't done both |
| 02:56.32 | Zeal | oh |
| 02:56.47 | Tekkub | I bet vlad_ would hate us more if we kept pinging him |
| 02:56.58 | Tekkub | cause then vlad_ would think something was happening |
| 02:57.09 | Zeal | god dammit, want an item namespace.. means i could go sort all the ones on my watchlist.. |
| 02:57.10 | oKirkburn | Sorry, did you say vlad_ |
| 02:57.11 | Tekkub | but we don't really need vlad_ at all do we? |
| 02:57.17 | oKirkburn | I thought you meant vlad_ |
| 02:57.20 | Tekkub | yes, I said vlad_ |
| 02:57.30 | Tekkub | not vlad_ you buffon |
| 02:57.35 | Sky2042 | who's vlad_? |
| 02:57.36 | oKirkburn | Are you sure you said vlad_ ... I could've sworn ... |
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| 02:57.42 | Tekkub | don't make me sic vlad_ on your ass |
| 02:58.00 | Sky2042 | Hob, can you tell me who vlad_ is? They won't tell me ;_; |
| 02:58.03 | oKirkburn | Hobinheim! |
| 02:58.05 | Hobinheim | tek, do npcs really really have ids? |
| 02:58.11 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 02:58.14 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 02:58.21 | Tekkub | in the WDBs they do |
| 02:58.25 | Hobinheim | forreal |
| 02:58.26 | Hobinheim | dammit.. |
| 02:58.31 | Hobinheim | we could put it in the npc box =( |
| 02:58.35 | Hobinheim | like the questbox... |
| 02:58.36 | Sky2042 | OWNED! |
| 02:58.39 | Tekkub | there's quest reqs... some are item IDs, some are NPC IDs... |
| 02:58.40 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:58.52 | Hobinheim | ic... |
| 02:59.04 | Hobinheim | stupid me for not reading far enough |
| 02:59.08 | Tekkub | alla and wowgiveshead prolly use the proper IDs |
| 02:59.19 | Tekkub | and thott prolly pulls em out their ass like everything else |
| 02:59.20 | Hobinheim | there has to be some id that they're making up right? |
| 02:59.24 | Hobinheim | for something not supported? |
| 02:59.32 | Tekkub | hrm? |
| 02:59.35 | Hobinheim | i'll add it to the npc box... for uhh... fun =) |
| 02:59.48 | Sky2042 | nah, thott uses proper quest ids, and i think they use proper npc ids too... could be wrong |
| 02:59.50 | Hobinheim | what's available on wowhead that doesn't have an official in-game id |
| 03:00.06 | oKirkburn | Just as a part of game design, it would suggest that everything should have an for simplicity |
| 03:00.12 | oKirkburn | s/an/an id/ |
| 03:00.13 | Tekkub | oh so the *only* thing thott pulls out it's ass is item ids? |
| 03:00.19 | Tekkub | and disenchant info |
| 03:00.25 | Sky2042 | yarr |
| 03:00.25 | Tekkub | and skins into info... |
| 03:00.26 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 03:00.30 | Tekkub | and found in... |
| 03:00.35 | Hobinheim | w/e. point is, more IDs, the better... |
| 03:00.38 | Tekkub | and found at (map coords) |
| 03:00.40 | Sky2042 | oh, quit ure bitchin mano |
| 03:00.52 | Tekkub | why it's fun |
| 03:01.00 | Hobinheim | i'm just kinda <_< at elinks-npc |
| 03:01.03 | Sky2042 | not to hear it ;( |
| 03:01.05 | Tekkub | vlad_ would totally join in if he was here |
| 03:01.06 | Hobinheim | when it sounds like something the npcbox can do |
| 03:01.14 | Hobinheim | since the npcbox is modeled after the questbox |
| 03:01.18 | Sky2042 | who tf is vlad_ ? -_- |
| 03:01.32 | Sky2042 | actually, why not add the id to questbox also? |
| 03:01.35 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 03:01.37 | Hobinheim | do you know who lady azshara and elune are? |
| 03:01.45 | Sky2042 | si |
| 03:01.48 | Hobinheim | id is already a part of the questbox, that's what i'm trying to say |
| 03:01.52 | Sky2042 | o |
| 03:01.55 | Hobinheim | lady azshara, elune, and vlad_ |
| 03:01.58 | Tekkub | hehe, copying JP music in command line is funny... |
| 03:02.03 | Hobinheim | how do you not know this |
| 03:02.03 | oKirkburn | Sitting in a tree |
| 03:02.04 | Tekkub | 01-??????.mp3 |
| 03:02.09 | Tekkub | 02 ???.mp3 |
| 03:02.15 | Sky2042 | i don't know |
| 03:02.20 | Sky2042 | argh@ye |
| 03:02.22 | Hobinheim | if you tab complete that, does unix die a little on the inside |
| 03:02.22 | Tekkub | 03-ZUNG ZUNG FUNKY MUSIC.mp3 |
| 03:02.35 | Hobinheim | 01-\?\??\???\????\??\?.mp3 |
| 03:02.49 | Tekkub | linux would probably implode |
| 03:02.50 | Hobinheim | 04-HAPPY-ROSE.mp3 |
| 03:02.53 | Sky2042 | atm, you wouldn't be able to tell that there are three admins on... |
| 03:02.56 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 03:03.07 | Tekkub | it doesn't show JP properly anywhere on our Ubuntu server |
| 03:03.14 | Tekkub | but windows lists em right |
| 03:03.23 | oKirkburn | Sky2042, vlad = Rustak = wiki owner :) |
| 03:03.28 | Sky2042 | aha! |
| 03:03.32 | oKirkburn | I cracked :/ |
| 03:03.43 | Hobinheim | dammit kirk |
| 03:03.47 | Sky2042 | now, that wasn't so hard, was it? :p |
| 03:03.50 | oKirkburn | What can I do!? |
| 03:04.09 | oKirkburn | Is Elinks-item still bloody going? |
| 03:04.17 | Hobinheim | i need to level up in life some... =( |
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| 03:04.29 | oKirkburn | Hobinheim, I thought people normally did that once a year |
| 03:04.34 | Hobinheim | what do you mean going |
| 03:04.37 | oKirkburn | If your birth on Feb 29th or something? :) |
| 03:04.40 | Sky2042 | looooooooool |
| 03:04.41 | oKirkburn | *is your birthday |
| 03:04.59 | Hobinheim | i think we don't need elinks-npc in favor of an npcbox >_> |
| 03:05.01 | oKirkburn | Is the wiki finished being slow yet? |
| 03:05.07 | Sky2042 | no |
| 03:05.11 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 03:05.14 | Hobinheim | seems fine to me. i'm having trouble with my internet connectino |
| 03:05.24 | Zeal | nope |
| 03:05.24 | Hobinheim | oh that re-direct you did |
| 03:05.28 | oKirkburn | Damn, I was just stuck in a loop |
| 03:05.32 | Hobinheim | ninja-ing the templates |
| 03:05.34 | oKirkburn | I thought it was messed up |
| 03:05.38 | vlad_ | oy |
| 03:05.42 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 03:05.45 | Zeal | dammit! |
| 03:05.46 | Sky2042 | there he is! |
| 03:05.51 | Zeal | oversight |
| 03:05.56 | Hobinheim | tek, i went to the gym. strong like bear! or a mongoose... |
| 03:06.11 | oKirkburn | Oy vay, vlad_ |
| 03:06.13 | Tekkub | bear w ith wide canyon? |
| 03:06.51 | Zeal | oh ffs |
| 03:06.51 | vlad_ | that was odd |
| 03:06.53 | Hobinheim | tek, do you know how to program like... win32 apps |
| 03:06.53 | Tekkub | vlad_ is what my people call "Doe who cannot keep her legs crossed" |
| 03:06.54 | Zeal | stupid cache |
| 03:07.02 | Tekkub | gah! HIDE! |
| 03:07.08 | Hobinheim | cuz let's pretend we finished the wdb importer |
| 03:07.08 | vlad_ | the Armor_Sets page was owning things, now it's fixed |
| 03:07.16 | Hobinheim | it'd be really annoying to ask people to upload individually |
| 03:07.23 | Hobinheim | nearly every site and their mother has their own uploader |
| 03:07.27 | Hobinheim | which i don't know how to write |
| 03:07.51 | Tekkub | no hob, I know, like, LUA |
| 03:07.53 | Zeal | Kirkburn, on both NPc and Item, can you change the last two alla and wh links to {{PAGENAMEE}} instead of {{PAGENAME}} |
| 03:07.54 | Hobinheim | barrier of entry vs ease of use |
| 03:08.02 | Hobinheim | omg changes |
| 03:08.07 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 03:08.11 | oKirkburn | vlad_, cool |
| 03:08.41 | Hobinheim | when i play on my hunter, i feel like i'm betraying my people |
| 03:08.44 | oKirkburn | Zeal, I'll unprotect them |
| 03:08.56 | Hobinheim | and by people i mean warlocks |
| 03:09.24 | oKirkburn | Zeal, done |
| 03:09.25 | *** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:09.27 | Zeal | kk |
| 03:10.03 | Skosiris | Hey |
| 03:10.15 | Hobinheim | hello Skosiris |
| 03:10.18 | Skosiris | I noticed you just rolled our the new elinks templates |
| 03:10.24 | Skosiris | *rolled out |
| 03:10.46 | Skosiris | thanks a lot for moving up the Wowhead link! |
| 03:11.02 | Sky2042 | who is this faceless contributor?! |
| 03:11.11 | oKirkburn | lol |
| 03:11.17 | oKirkburn | Hey Skosiris |
| 03:11.31 | Hobinheim | oh wait these are totally nuking all the elinks templates... |
| 03:11.36 | Hobinheim | anyone have a link i can see |
| 03:11.46 | Zeal | otherwise, search links are going b'bye |
| 03:11.56 | Hobinheim | page name doesn't return spaces? |
| 03:12.04 | Zeal | pagename gives spaces |
| 03:12.06 | Tekkub | they're gonna go okeyladyIloveyoubuhbye! |
| 03:12.11 | Hobinheim | but.... |
| 03:12.14 | Zeal | pagenamee gives underscoures instead. |
| 03:12.15 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 03:12.25 | oKirkburn | Zeal, please be kidding |
| 03:12.26 | Hobinheim | why are you using pagenamee? |
| 03:12.28 | Laraul | how do you assign a process to a specific NIC? |
| 03:12.29 | Tekkub | {{PAGENAME}} == spaces {{PAGENAMEE}} == url formatted |
| 03:12.44 | Skosiris | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Atiesh%2C_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian |
| 03:12.46 | Sky2042 | why not use the ascii... |
| 03:12.49 | Zeal | hob, because pagename gives spaces Hobinheim |
| 03:12.52 | Sky2042 | nvm :o |
| 03:12.54 | Skosiris | underscores are actually ignored so it's good :) |
| 03:12.56 | Hobinheim | so? |
| 03:12.57 | oKirkburn | Ah I see |
| 03:13.02 | Zeal | which ends up with the link ending at the first space |
| 03:13.17 | oKirkburn | Yay for Wowhead |
| 03:13.20 | Hobinheim | wiki limitations goddammit... |
| 03:13.24 | Tekkub | not on FF and not I-E-E-E I think.. |
| 03:13.35 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22737 :O |
| 03:13.39 | oKirkburn | Um, why is the quest item "junk"? :) |
| 03:13.43 | Sky2042 | where did that come forom? |
| 03:14.01 | oKirkburn | That's the quest item |
| 03:14.07 | oKirkburn | Before it becomes the full staff |
| 03:14.12 | Tekkub | does it bind Kirk? |
| 03:14.15 | Zeal | is there a {{urlencode:}} or anything? |
| 03:14.23 | oKirkburn | "Binds when picked up |
| 03:14.23 | oKirkburn | " |
| 03:14.25 | Tekkub | some quest items don't bind so aren't labeled quest |
| 03:14.32 | Tekkub | hum dunno then |
| 03:14.47 | Tekkub | quest implies BoP so... |
| 03:14.47 | oKirkburn | Lol, imagine if that item wasn't soulbound ... |
| 03:14.50 | Tekkub | hum |
| 03:15.00 | Hobinheim | zeal, that sounds good, there should probably be one |
| 03:15.04 | Tekkub | on that note |
| 03:15.09 | Tekkub | SURPRISE FOOD! |
| 03:15.17 | Laraul | [20:07:16] <Hobinheim> it'd be really annoying to ask people to upload individually <--- Alla does this |
| 03:15.20 | Tekkub | followed by PREMEDITATED BUTTSECKS! |
| 03:15.29 | Skosiris | I guess Blizz didn't bother creating thousands of item categories, so a lot of items go into the "Miscellaneous > Junk" category heh ;) |
| 03:15.33 | Hobinheim | alla asks people to upload INDIVIDUAL wdbs? |
| 03:15.38 | Skosiris | they should have placed it in the Quest category though |
| 03:15.39 | Hobinheim | that's so barbaric |
| 03:15.45 | Hobinheim | speaking of alla i haven't used my free pass yet... |
| 03:15.54 | Tekkub | alla's client scans the WDBs and uploads whatever it wants |
| 03:16.08 | Hobinheim | see, alla has a client |
| 03:16.13 | Hobinheim | Laraul, what are you talking about |
| 03:16.27 | Hobinheim | well ok i meant the difference between slightly automated and fully manual |
| 03:16.35 | Laraul | about the uploader |
| 03:16.42 | Hobinheim | well they have an uploader |
| 03:16.45 | Hobinheim | that's like 90% of the way |
| 03:16.47 | Hobinheim | we have nothing |
| 03:16.49 | Laraul | not for mac |
| 03:16.49 | Hobinheim | so that's different |
| 03:16.54 | Hobinheim | who cares about macs >_> |
| 03:17.04 | Tekkub | {{unsigned|Arathinir}} <--- classic! I love |
| 03:17.32 | Skosiris | were you guys performing some kind of mass update to the site a little while ago? |
| 03:17.37 | Skosiris | the site was a little slow |
| 03:17.57 | Hobinheim | Skosiris,yes |
| 03:18.00 | Hobinheim | blame management |
| 03:18.18 | Zeal | "Converts the text into URL friendly format by replacing spaces with "+" and other url formatting characters with their escaped equivalents: {{urlencode:hello world ?&=#/:}} gives hello+world+%3F%26%3D%23%2F%3A." |
| 03:18.21 | Laraul | lol maybe you didn't notice but WoW is also for MacOS |
| 03:18.30 | Zeal | + is not exaclt url friendly for spaces.. |
| 03:18.39 | oKirkburn | I'm going to watch The Simpsons for a while |
| 03:18.42 | oKirkburn | Bbl |
| 03:18.47 | Zeal | but luckily, in this case, it should work.. i hope. |
| 03:18.51 | Hobinheim | uhh what are you talking about |
| 03:18.52 | Zeal | will have to test. |
| 03:18.54 | Hobinheim | + IS a space |
| 03:19.07 | Zeal | %20 is a urlencoded space |
| 03:19.08 | Hobinheim | that's exactly what you want |
| 03:19.12 | Zeal | + is not |
| 03:19.23 | Zeal | but most sites will recognise it as one in arguments |
| 03:19.23 | oKirkburn|afk | Nah, + is just a 'modifier' |
| 03:19.25 | Hobinheim | http://www.google.com/search?q=you+suck |
| 03:19.53 | oKirkburn|afk | It can act as a space, but it isn't really one |
| 03:20.11 | oKirkburn|afk | For example, searching "you+suck" looks at the word individually |
| 03:20.31 | Zeal | wow head is ok. |
| 03:20.32 | Hobinheim | what? |
| 03:20.33 | oKirkburn|afk | However "you%20suck" is a single string, and it will search for "you suck" exactly |
| 03:20.56 | Zeal | wowhead uses %20 as a modifier two oKirkburn|afk ;) |
| 03:20.57 | oKirkburn|afk | Sorry, I missed some letter before |
| 03:21.08 | oKirkburn|afk | Oh well, that's just great :) |
| 03:21.12 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:21.15 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=you+suck |
| 03:21.30 | Hobinheim | what are you guys talking about. plus is a space |
| 03:21.51 | Zeal | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Atiesh%20Guardian http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Atiesh+Guardian |
| 03:21.52 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, in normal land, the + just separates words to search for. %20 translates to an actual space, linking the words as a phrase. That help? |
| 03:21.57 | Zeal | that's not a space, neither of them. |
| 03:22.25 | Hobinheim | what are you smoking |
| 03:22.27 | Zeal | aye, wowhead has gone beyond normal land. |
| 03:22.27 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:22.28 | Hobinheim | those pages are the same |
| 03:22.32 | Zeal | yes Hobinheim |
| 03:22.33 | oKirkburn|afk | It isn't a space. It's a modifier. It's telling it to search for "you" and "suck" |
| 03:22.39 | Zeal | and in neither one, are they a space :P |
| 03:22.40 | Hobinheim | no it's not |
| 03:22.41 | Hobinheim | fuck |
| 03:22.56 | Hobinheim | http://www.google.com/search?q=you+%2Bsuck |
| 03:22.57 | Zeal | now to check alla.. |
| 03:22.59 | Hobinheim | 2B is a plus sign |
| 03:23.07 | Hobinheim | "you +suck" |
| 03:23.14 | oKirkburn|afk | ? |
| 03:23.15 | Hobinheim | a plus sign, in a url, is a space |
| 03:23.27 | oKirkburn|afk | It really isn't |
| 03:23.30 | Hobinheim | dude |
| 03:23.31 | Laraul | hob no |
| 03:23.33 | Sky2042 | oh god, you guys are arguing over whether or not a plus sign is a space. isn't that a little silly? |
| 03:23.37 | Hobinheim | what are all of you smoking |
| 03:23.37 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 03:23.46 | Sky2042 | if it acts like one, does it really matter? |
| 03:24.01 | oKirkburn|afk | Hob, in properly formed URLs, spaces are ALWAYS represented by %20 |
| 03:24.23 | Hobinheim | oKirkburn|afk, i really don't think so |
| 03:24.24 | Zeal | http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Aitesh+Guardian http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=Aitesh%20Guardian both being used as a space. |
| 03:24.29 | Hobinheim | SEE |
| 03:24.30 | oKirkburn|afk | The + is used to separate search terms |
| 03:24.30 | Hobinheim | damn |
| 03:24.37 | Skosiris | ok listen up |
| 03:24.37 | Hobinheim | what the christ |
| 03:24.40 | Skosiris | + is a way for web forms to "encode" the space character in URLs (query string) %20 is a newer way that works as well |
| 03:24.58 | Laraul | No |
| 03:25.06 | oKirkburn|afk | Zeal, you meant Atiesh surely :P |
| 03:25.07 | Sky2042 | isn't %20 just ascii code for a plus sign? :/ |
| 03:25.20 | oKirkburn|afk | No, %20 is a space |
| 03:25.28 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 03:25.36 | Laraul | No %20 is Hex value for space |
| 03:25.52 | Sky2042 | sigh |
| 03:26.08 | Laraul | That is what the % character denotes |
| 03:26.09 | Sky2042 | eh, anyway, someone wanna answer vysogota: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Elinks-item |
| 03:26.17 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 03:26.39 | Zeal | no, + is a way of combining strings in urls to pass arguments, so it can be used as a space if the code is designed to use it that way, but in terms of the url, it is not a space. %20 has existed for a long time, and is the standard for a url space. |
| 03:26.47 | Zeal | and yes, oKirkburn|afk.. crap |
| 03:26.49 | Laraul | + is just + |
| 03:26.53 | Hobinheim | goddammit |
| 03:26.54 | Hobinheim | shut up |
| 03:26.55 | Hobinheim | that's wrong |
| 03:26.56 | Hobinheim | they're the same |
| 03:27.02 | Hobinheim | + is an alias for a space |
| 03:27.04 | Hobinheim | stop making up shit |
| 03:27.06 | Sky2042 | oh, this is sad |
| 03:27.16 | oKirkburn|afk | Search google for the phrase: this carrot looks like a chicken - you will get a URL for http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=this+carrot+looks+like+a+chicken&meta= |
| 03:27.30 | oKirkburn|afk | Note how the results do NOT search for the phrase, but the individual words |
| 03:27.42 | Hobinheim | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22you+suck%22 |
| 03:27.44 | Hobinheim | "you suck" |
| 03:27.48 | Hobinheim | notice the plus sign is still there |
| 03:27.49 | Zeal | oKirkburn|afk, what google does is irrelevent. |
| 03:27.52 | Hobinheim | why, because it's a SPACE |
| 03:27.56 | Zeal | it all depends on how you design your system |
| 03:28.01 | Hobinheim | you can't just pick and choose |
| 03:28.05 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, look at the example I gave |
| 03:28.10 | Hobinheim | give it up and stop spreading lies |
| 03:28.15 | oKirkburn|afk | Wow |
| 03:28.16 | Zeal | anyways.. |
| 03:28.21 | Skosiris | hey Zeal, how do I register using NickServer? |
| 03:28.24 | Hobinheim | what. it has spaces in it |
| 03:28.26 | Hobinheim | what is there to look at |
| 03:28.34 | Hobinheim | it's just supporting what i've tried to say since we started |
| 03:28.41 | Hobinheim | it's so basic |
| 03:28.42 | Laraul | Open a file in your browser that contains a space |
| 03:28.42 | oKirkburn|afk | No it isn't :/ |
| 03:28.49 | Zeal | /msg NickServ help |
| 03:28.51 | Laraul | It does NOT use + |
| 03:28.53 | Hobinheim | Laraul, yes, %20's abound |
| 03:29.25 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim] by ChanServ |
| 03:29.37 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, my point is that + does not mean a space. It can be used as one, but it does not mean one. |
| 03:29.49 | Hobinheim | dude, that's flat out wrong |
| 03:29.52 | Zeal | so anyways.. wowhead is using both to combine strings, alla is using both as spaces. |
| 03:29.57 | Hobinheim | and i'm totally expecting more from you |
| 03:30.06 | *** join/#wowwiki Laraul (i=spoof@ip72-200-90-128.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:30.06 | Zeal | what oKirkburn|afk said is flat out correct |
| 03:30.13 | Zeal | :p |
| 03:30.24 | Laraul | Ugh |
| 03:30.29 | oKirkburn|afk | Hey Laraul |
| 03:30.31 | Karrion | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1738.html "Uniform Resource Locators (URL)" never defines + as a special char |
| 03:30.47 | Laraul | What was my signoff message? |
| 03:30.54 | Sky2042 | connection reset by peer |
| 03:31.02 | Sky2042 | read error: 104 |
| 03:31.11 | Zeal | i shouldn't say both actually |
| 03:31.19 | Zeal | they are all consistant between all 3 |
| 03:31.23 | Laraul | Hmmm |
| 03:31.40 | Zeal | _ = space in all _ = combination on wowhead |
| 03:31.53 | Zeal | next up.. let's check thott, lol |
| 03:31.59 | oKirkburn|afk | So all is good? :) |
| 03:32.06 | Hobinheim | Within a query component, the characters ";", "/", "?", ":", "@", |
| 03:32.07 | Hobinheim | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.09 | Hobinheim | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt |
| 03:32.11 | Zeal | all will be good with {{PAGENAMEE}} aye |
| 03:32.21 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, yes, as modifiers |
| 03:32.31 | Hobinheim | + is a space in the query string |
| 03:32.34 | Laraul | lol a query not a url |
| 03:32.37 | Zeal | not really as modifires, but yes. |
| 03:32.41 | Hobinheim | and %20 is a space in the URL |
| 03:32.42 | Zeal | not it's not hob |
| 03:32.49 | Zeal | it can be used as a space in a query string |
| 03:32.57 | Laraul | A query is NOT a URL |
| 03:33.07 | Hobinheim | the query is the part of the URL after the ? |
| 03:33.11 | oKirkburn|afk | Aye |
| 03:33.19 | Zeal | yes |
| 03:33.28 | Laraul | Yes it's THAT part of the URL. But not a URL |
| 03:33.36 | Hobinheim | wtf |
| 03:34.02 | Karrion | so http://www.foo.com/search?q=This+is+a+space <- plus means space |
| 03:34.18 | oKirkburn|afk | Yes, because that's how the search engine treats it |
| 03:34.22 | Karrion | but http://www.foo.com/This+is+not+a+space <- plus just means plus |
| 03:34.29 | oKirkburn|afk | Exactly |
| 03:34.30 | Laraul | Actually I think it's up to the parser |
| 03:34.40 | Laraul | I don't know what the standards are for queries |
| 03:34.45 | Hobinheim | right... |
| 03:34.58 | Karrion | and just for fun, http://www.foo.com/This+is+not+a+space?q=This+is+a+space |
| 03:35.05 | Hobinheim | Karrion, i was thinking exactly that... |
| 03:35.08 | oKirkburn|afk | lol |
| 03:35.29 | Hobinheim | http://www.foo.com/Who%20cares?q=I+do+not |
| 03:35.32 | oKirkburn|afk | Oh no, please don't tell me this was all crossed wires again |
| 03:35.35 | Zeal | This+is+a+space can mean what the system want's it to mean. eg. Wowhead uses it to combine multiple strings, all uses it as a space, google uses it as a space in it's search box, but a space in it's searhc box is actually used to combine strings. |
| 03:35.45 | Zeal | all dependent on how you design your system. |
| 03:35.55 | Hobinheim | no, zeal, it isn't |
| 03:35.57 | Zeal | *alla uses |
| 03:35.58 | oKirkburn|afk | So back to the topic :P |
| 03:36.12 | Zeal | yes hob, it is |
| 03:36.28 | Hobinheim | define "combine multiple strings" what does that mean |
| 03:36.36 | Zeal | nothing wrong with what i just said and i'd like to see you prove otherwise. |
| 03:36.36 | oKirkburn|afk | Ah, multiple search terms |
| 03:36.57 | oKirkburn|afk | i.e. it'll search for the individual words |
| 03:36.58 | Zeal | "string"+"string"+"string with spaces" for exmaple. |
| 03:37.26 | oKirkburn|afk | Wait, wasn't I going to watch The Simpsons? |
| 03:37.46 | Zeal | as long as it's not family guy oKirkburn|afk, sure :P |
| 03:37.55 | Hobinheim | i can't think of any phrases off the top of my head to test |
| 03:38.06 | oKirkburn|afk | Nah, the torrent for that has only just gone up, Zeal :P |
| 03:38.38 | oKirkburn|afk | "Your mother was a hamster" |
| 03:38.47 | Hobinheim | but that won't yield any results |
| 03:38.51 | oKirkburn|afk | ...or... |
| 03:38.53 | oKirkburn|afk | "your father smelt of elderberries" |
| 03:39.02 | oKirkburn|afk | It will on Google :) |
| 03:39.05 | Zeal | ok, Thottbot now. + and %20 are used to combine strings, _ is used a space. |
| 03:39.14 | Hobinheim | its a matter of mixing up the function of a plus sign vs the existence of a plus sign in the url's query |
| 03:39.17 | Zeal | so, we can get away with {{PAGENAMEE}} :) |
| 03:39.30 | oKirkburn|afk | Zeal, if so, great |
| 03:39.34 | Hobinheim | in the url query, a plus sign is always a space |
| 03:39.47 | Hobinheim | if you send in a plus sign in the search box, it gets changed to %2B |
| 03:39.58 | Laraul | yeah |
| 03:40.05 | Hobinheim | sigh all you want, but i'm telling you what you're saying is all mixed up |
| 03:40.12 | Hobinheim | and you're just conveniently ignoring things to make your case better |
| 03:40.15 | Hobinheim | which isn't fair |
| 03:40.15 | Zeal | because ina search box, a plus is an operator. |
| 03:40.16 | Karrion | Hobinheim: it would be more accurate to say, the browser always replaces spaces in a text field with a + |
| 03:40.30 | Zeal | which is appended to the string |
| 03:40.32 | Hobinheim | Karrion, yes! what is it that people are not seeing |
| 03:40.35 | oKirkburn|afk | The Internet. It's fun. |
| 03:40.36 | Laraul | You can make an entire url using %0x values instead of characters |
| 03:40.47 | Zeal | so it becomes "string"+"+string" |
| 03:40.52 | Karrion | and, since + is a reserved character in the query part, encodes any literal +s as %2B |
| 03:40.53 | Hobinheim | if we could all just be like Karrion for a second |
| 03:41.00 | Hobinheim | YES! |
| 03:41.20 | Karrion | the server, on the other hand, isn't actually obliged to _treat_ the + as a space... |
| 03:41.24 | oKirkburn|afk | I don't think I was arguing against any of this |
| 03:41.28 | Laraul | Do you people not know your hex? |
| 03:41.30 | Laraul | Sheesh |
| 03:41.35 | Hobinheim | oKirkburn|afk, what you were saying definitely sounded off kilter |
| 03:41.44 | Zeal | Hobinheim, according to you it's "string +string" which means it's no longer an functional operator and is actually part of one long string |
| 03:41.51 | Zeal | so no.. it's not a space by default |
| 03:42.00 | Zeal | and is dependant on how you desing your system |
| 03:42.00 | Hobinheim | what? |
| 03:42.09 | Hobinheim | i wasn't talking about +'s in the search box |
| 03:42.11 | oKirkburn|afk | I was saying that %20 is defined as a space, whereas + isn't defined as a space. |
| 03:42.11 | Hobinheim | we're talking about the query |
| 03:42.17 | Zeal | yes, you were, rofl |
| 03:42.18 | Skyfire | it worked? o_0 |
| 03:42.20 | Skyfire | lol! |
| 03:42.21 | oKirkburn|afk | Yes, well that wasn't clear originally |
| 03:42.38 | Hobinheim | whos' talking about search boxes when the original problem was a URL encoding issue |
| 03:42.41 | Hobinheim | jeez |
| 03:42.45 | oKirkburn|afk | Skyfire, morning |
| 03:42.53 | Skyfire | pft |
| 03:42.55 | Zeal | <@Hobinheim> if you send in a plus sign in the search box, it gets changed to %2B <-- uhm.. ¬_¬ |
| 03:43.05 | Hobinheim | and a + IS a space, in the query, which Karrion just finished explaining |
| 03:43.08 | Skyfire | I've been on for the past 6 hours as Sky2042 ;p |
| 03:43.23 | Hobinheim | Zeal, even then, that is absolutely true |
| 03:43.33 | Hobinheim | and doesn't conflict with anything else i've said |
| 03:43.51 | oKirkburn|afk | Skyfire, damn you and your confusing name! |
| 03:44.04 | Zeal | hob, the very fact that multiple sites do it differently and that if + is stuck as a space only there would be no way to combine multiple strings in url prove you wrong. |
| 03:44.05 | oKirkburn|afk | Can we move onto a different topic please |
| 03:44.09 | Zeal | so please, can we move on. |
| 03:44.26 | Hobinheim | we can move on as soon as you stop saying things that are incorrect |
| 03:44.33 | Skyfire | damn the person who's using "Sky", imo |
| 03:45.41 | oKirkburn|afk | Btw, in case some didn't see it earlier - we need to add External Links headers everywhere :) |
| 03:45.41 | Skyfire | :[ |
| 03:45.41 | oKirkburn|afk | Skyfire, had someone already taken "Sky" on the wiki |
| 03:45.41 | oKirkburn|afk | ? |
| 03:45.41 | Zeal | anyones, slow down again, sorry.# |
| 03:45.41 | Hobinheim | wait you're not the same sky? |
| 03:45.41 | oKirkburn|afk | For the greater good! |
| 03:45.41 | Skyfire | i think so, actually, but I'm talking about on here ;( |
| 03:45.48 | Zeal | O_o |
| 03:45.52 | oKirkburn|afk | Skyfire, I know, but I was wonder why you had the odd numerical name in the first place :) |
| 03:46.03 | Skyfire | ah, well, yah :[ |
| 03:46.13 | Zeal | i assumed it had significance :P |
| 03:46.15 | oKirkburn|afk | Wait, that wasn't right ... |
| 03:46.15 | Skyfire | it made me sad |
| 03:46.18 | Karrion | any reason I'm not getting CSS properly on ww atm? |
| 03:46.28 | Hobinheim | Karrion, slow page loads maybe |
| 03:46.33 | Laraul | Type this |
| 03:46.35 | Zeal | or you were forced to use it on a site once, so kept it. |
| 03:46.35 | Laraul | http://www.google.com/search?q=%57%6F%57&rls |
| 03:46.37 | oKirkburn|afk | Karrion, changes, they are occuring! |
| 03:46.45 | Karrion | ah, back |
| 03:46.50 | Zeal | hehe |
| 03:47.01 | Skyfire | well, "Sky" was taken, so I just defaulted to a name I've used elsewhere. |
| 03:47.09 | Skyfire | hence, "Sky2042" |
| 03:47.13 | Karrion | but usually, even when wowwiki has a problem, it still has css >.> |
| 03:47.13 | Hobinheim | i promised my wife and child i wouldn't nerd rage anymore... |
| 03:47.19 | Skyfire | the number's actually my address ;P |
| 03:47.23 | Zeal | i love how the changes happen around 10% loaded, yet it get left stuck on about 38% :p |
| 03:47.30 | oKirkburn|afk | Dammit, Skosiris I am answering you, but I forgot about the fact I'm using an odd name atm |
| 03:47.37 | Zeal | so afaik, it's not even submitted yet. |
| 03:47.39 | oKirkburn|afk | (it's, er, part of a bet, sort of) |
| 03:47.54 | oKirkburn|afk | Skosiris, it's from the official website's zone page =) |
| 03:48.12 | Skyfire | is Sko private msging you, or am I on crack? |
| 03:48.12 | Zeal | so use it an abuse it :P |
| 03:48.25 | Zeal | you're on crack and he is pming him :P |
| 03:48.31 | Skosiris | lol |
| 03:48.52 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, do you turn all huge and green and start philosophising? |
| 03:48.53 | Skyfire | gd, one or the other zeal -_- |
| 03:49.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:49.03 | Laraul | *sigh* no one typed that URL |
| 03:49.09 | Hobinheim | only zeal-induced rages... |
| 03:49.10 | Skyfire | nope! |
| 03:49.19 | Hobinheim | i look like my orclock |
| 03:49.24 | oKirkburn|afk | Laraul, WoW |
| 03:49.32 | Laraul | Yeah |
| 03:49.35 | oKirkburn|afk | :) |
| 03:49.37 | Hobinheim | it was a useless discussion |
| 03:49.45 | Hobinheim | and i really am stressed right now |
| 03:49.47 | Hobinheim | i can feel it |
| 03:49.47 | Laraul | Not useless |
| 03:49.53 | Hobinheim | but i don't like misinformation |
| 03:49.57 | oKirkburn|afk | What discussion, I remember no discussion :P |
| 03:50.00 | Hobinheim | and i don't like people who are stubborn |
| 03:50.01 | Zeal | nor i ;) |
| 03:50.07 | Hobinheim | or just ignore things whenever |
| 03:50.12 | Hobinheim | that's something i would resort to |
| 03:50.16 | Laraul | Hobinheim lol |
| 03:50.16 | Hobinheim | and people shouldn't do that |
| 03:50.23 | Hobinheim | how DARE anyone use my tactics |
| 03:50.23 | oKirkburn|afk | Kk, just stop now :) |
| 03:50.29 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:50.33 | Hobinheim | the gaul |
| 03:50.33 | oKirkburn|afk | ~coconuts |
| 03:50.37 | infobot | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 03:50.41 | Hobinheim | i actually don't like coconut |
| 03:50.42 | oKirkburn|afk | I thought Adys was the gaul? |
| 03:50.45 | Zeal | ~surprise |
| 03:50.47 | infobot | BUTTSECKS! |
| 03:50.50 | Laraul | i wanna vomit |
| 03:50.52 | Hobinheim | oKirkburn|afk, ICEBURN |
| 03:51.05 | Zeal | i don't like coconut either hob |
| 03:51.05 | Hobinheim | infobot, that's really rude of you |
| 03:51.18 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, HOBEXPLOSIONYOULEFTTHEGASON! |
| 03:51.20 | Hobinheim | we share a common enemy, zeal |
| 03:51.26 | Zeal | indeed, lol |
| 03:51.42 | Hobinheim | they say... you know how they is... nothing bonds people together better than a common enemy |
| 03:51.53 | oKirkburn|afk | The french? |
| 03:52.01 | Hobinheim | i propose a strike on the coconut nation, as soon as my blood pressure baselines... |
| 03:52.10 | Hobinheim | i need to log off |
| 03:52.26 | oKirkburn|afk | I kinda hope it doesn't baseline. You'd be slightly ... dead. :P |
| 03:52.47 | Skyfire | oh god |
| 03:52.50 | Zeal | :p |
| 03:52.51 | Skyfire | what has happened?... |
| 03:53.16 | oKirkburn|afk | Skyfire, you're the one with an apocalyptic name, you tell me! |
| 03:53.26 | Skyfire | it won't end the world!!! |
| 03:53.37 | oKirkburn|afk | Well that sets my mind at rest. |
| 03:53.41 | Skyfire | the amount of characters are the same, and so are the first 3 letters! |
| 03:53.45 | Skyfire | -_- |
| 03:54.25 | oKirkburn|afk | How many hours ago did I say I was gonna watch The Simpsons now? 2, 3? |
| 03:54.28 | oKirkburn|afk | Bbl! |
| 03:54.33 | Skyfire | 30 minutes |
| 03:54.34 | Skyfire | -_- |
| 03:55.12 | oKirkburn|afk | Btw, Heroes is on in Canadia atm |
| 03:55.25 | Skyfire | ok, this makes me a little angry... :[. [[User:Sky]] has a total of 3 contributions... |
| 03:55.35 | Skosiris | What channel does it air on? |
| 03:55.57 | oKirkburn|afk | "If you’re a lucky Canadian, you don’t have to come back again tonight becuse you can watch Episode 18 on Global TV tonight" |
| 03:55.57 | Skyfire | is there any way for you to... "unreserve" the name? :O |
| 03:56.02 | oKirkburn|afk | Not afaik |
| 03:56.09 | Skyfire | huh |
| 03:56.26 | Skyfire | i bet there is >:) |
| 03:56.27 | oKirkburn|afk | Owner dude might be able to, but none of the admins can |
| 03:56.36 | Skyfire | darn... |
| 03:56.40 | Skyfire | woe is me |
| 03:57.29 | Skyfire | oh, crap lol |
| 03:57.41 | Karrion | was Template:Elinks-item going to include the ==External Links== header? |
| 03:57.43 | Skyfire | I think I found a login i used a long time ago |
| 03:57.51 | Skyfire | i don't think so :o |
| 03:58.01 | Zeal | nope Karrion, that's for Template:Elinks |
| 03:58.18 | Skyfire | lol, i did |
| 03:58.20 | Skyfire | gg |
| 03:58.25 | oKirkburn|afk | Wait, should I be unprotecting that for you too, Zeal? |
| 03:58.37 | Zeal | that way they can be used along side each other if needed, and when people click the wrong edit section link, they only go to elinks :P |
| 03:58.47 | Zeal | no, not at all oKirkburn|afk :p |
| 03:58.55 | Zeal | that most definitely should be protected :P |
| 03:59.03 | oKirkburn|afk | But it doesn't add the title? |
| 03:59.03 | Zeal | too many people might make the mistake |
| 03:59.09 | Zeal | Elinks does |
| 03:59.14 | Karrion | only currently most (all?) items have the heading missing (eg http://www.wowwiki.com/Elunite_Ore, to pick at random) |
| 03:59.28 | Zeal | aye, i know Karrion |
| 03:59.38 | Zeal | chaning them as i go, and hopefully others will to. |
| 03:59.40 | Karrion | so a bot batch is needed? |
| 03:59.43 | Zeal | *changing |
| 03:59.55 | Karrion | l, thought I'd check ;-) |
| 03:59.55 | Zeal | a bot would be appreciated, but unlikely to happen |
| 04:00.02 | Skyfire | oh my fucking god |
| 04:00.09 | Skyfire | [[User:Skyfire]] is me |
| 04:00.12 | Skyfire | LOL |
| 04:00.27 | Skyfire | I've been using [[User:Sky2042]] for the past 2 months... |
| 04:00.34 | Zeal | i need to bring all other other elinks in line now too.. |
| 04:04.32 | Zeal | oKirkburn|afk, could you unprotect http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinksset http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinksquest and http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinksspell plx? :p |
| 04:04.37 | Zeal | er.. whats up Skyfire? :s |
| 04:05.34 | Zeal | wiat unprotect? er.. don't need to do that, can just redirect them to the new ones later.. |
| 04:05.50 | Zeal | though unprotecting means i can do it later :p |
| 04:06.43 | Zeal | hm.. thottbot uses it's own ID's for set no? :S |
| 04:10.03 | Skosiris | nope |
| 04:10.27 | Skosiris | they use the IDs as found in the WDB/DBC files for item sets, spells and quests |
| 04:10.36 | Zeal | hm.. why the hell do we have seperate params for them then >_< |
| 04:10.56 | Zeal | and alla and wowhead do the same right? |
| 04:11.15 | Skosiris | let me check |
| 04:11.36 | Skosiris | positive. |
| 04:12.48 | Zeal | kk, ty |
| 04:16.01 | Zeal | and fyi, i'm not dealing with order issues, if people want to argue over any of the site's positions, someone else can handle it. |
| 04:16.18 | Zeal | right now, it's wowhead, alla, thottbot. |
| 04:17.35 | Skyfire | yeah, er, i made a profile named "Skyfire" sometime this summer... I edited with it once, and then dropped it |
| 04:17.48 | Skyfire | well... I forgot about it |
| 04:18.01 | Skyfire | so I started "Sky2042" about two months ago... :x |
| 04:18.53 | Zeal | lol |
| 04:19.41 | Skyfire | just gonna make [[User:Skyfire]] a redirect, i think... I can always change that ;p |
| 04:25.19 | Zeal | ok, what other elinks need to be made? zone? :S |
| 04:28.52 | Skyfire | hmm... you can have a name "usurped" using media wiki... hmmm |
| 04:30.20 | Skyfire | but only if the account to be usurped has no edits... /sadface |
| 04:30.53 | Zeal | :( |
| 04:31.39 | Skyfire | wonder if its possible to delete accounts :O |
| 04:31.42 | Skyfire | lol |
| 04:37.29 | Skyfire | doesn't look like it, but i could be wrong |
| 04:37.50 | Skyfire | looks more like a policy issue than a technical issue |
| 04:38.04 | Skyfire | and we know how ww is with policy issues :] |
| 04:38.21 | oKirkburn|afk | Unprotected them, Zeal |
| 04:39.10 | oKirkburn|afk | And away |
| 04:41.13 | Zeal | don't beleive there is a delete user ability in mediawiki |
| 04:41.31 | Zeal | can only be done by sql access. |
| 04:41.42 | Zeal | so pretty much, just vlad_ and sancus. heh. |
| 04:41.43 | Skyfire | eh, i wouldn't know in any case ;( |
| 04:42.44 | Skyfire | do we have a stub for "Warcraft II/III"? |
| 04:43.14 | Tekkub | I have a special stub for you... in my lant |
| 04:43.26 | Tekkub | pants... damn dvorak/qwerty switchintg |
| 04:43.32 | Zeal | lol |
| 04:44.24 | Zeal | where as everyone else is the other way around.. |
| 04:44.39 | Skyfire | eh, our stubs are too big, imo, so i sorta agree ;p |
| 04:45.08 | Tekkub | So big american stub! |
| 04:45.21 | Skyfire | is tekkub high zeal?... =x |
| 04:45.47 | Zeal | you're the oen that's on crack, you tell me. |
| 04:45.49 | Zeal | :p |
| 04:46.04 | Skyfire | pft |
| 04:46.35 | Zeal | i coul go for a sub though, heh. |
| 04:46.38 | Zeal | *could |
| 04:47.40 | Tekkub | HONK! I'm a cow! |
| 04:47.44 | Tekkub | okey, bedtime |
| 04:47.51 | Zeal | O_o |
| 04:47.55 | Zeal | nn Tekkub |
| 05:04.00 | Zeal | Skosiris, think you can validate another ID issue for me? :P |
| 05:04.10 | Zeal | it seems thottbot is using a custom id for zones |
| 05:04.25 | Zeal | haven't checked alla's yet, but it doesn't match wowhead |
| 05:05.09 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 05:05.14 | Zeal | alla's matches thott's |
| 05:05.24 | Zeal | they both getting it wrong or wowhead wrong? :S |
| 05:07.21 | Zeal | :o |
| 05:07.23 | Zeal | tsk tsk |
| 05:07.26 | Zeal | wowhead has it wrong |
| 05:08.23 | Skyfire | dum dum dum! |
| 05:08.35 | Skyfire | wowhead isn't perfect after all! |
| 05:08.55 | Zeal | hehe |
| 05:11.29 | Skosiris | sorry I was afk, *catching up the conversation* |
| 05:12.57 | Skosiris | lol |
| 05:13.04 | Skosiris | Duskwood: |
| 05:13.06 | Zicon | skyfire: Crappit, you just broke my world. Who's going to fix this mess, huh? |
| 05:13.09 | Skosiris | thott: http://www.thottbot.com/?z=52 |
| 05:13.10 | Skosiris | alla: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/zone.html?wzone=11 |
| 05:13.14 | Skosiris | wowhead: http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=10 |
| 05:13.54 | Zeal | oo only one site has it right then |
| 05:14.13 | Karrion | or none of them do ;-) |
| 05:14.17 | Zeal | omfg |
| 05:14.20 | Zeal | they're all f'd up |
| 05:14.28 | Skosiris | hmm |
| 05:14.29 | Zeal | duskwood is indeed 10 |
| 05:14.42 | Skosiris | there's only 1 zone in AreaTable.dbc named "Duskwood", its id is 10 |
| 05:14.50 | Zeal | aye |
| 05:14.55 | Zeal | check mulgore |
| 05:14.58 | Zeal | and alterac mountains |
| 05:15.10 | Zeal | that's where i found wowhead had it wrong. |
| 05:15.21 | Zeal | and mulgore matched on thott and alla : / |
| 05:16.07 | Zeal | wait wtf |
| 05:16.10 | Zeal | i take that back |
| 05:16.32 | Skosiris | dbc says "215" :P |
| 05:17.06 | Zeal | aye |
| 05:17.10 | Zeal | wowhead is correct |
| 05:17.12 | Zeal | nvm then |
| 05:17.14 | Skosiris | I wonder how they come up with their zone ids |
| 05:17.16 | Zeal | wowhead only it is |
| 05:17.36 | Laraul | Hmmm |
| 05:20.02 | Zicon | So, wait, Wowhead is perfect after all? ;p |
| 05:25.27 | Zeal | indeed |
| 05:25.28 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:27.48 | Zeal | factions now.. |
| 05:28.27 | Zeal | well alla doesn't have factions so that's out straight away.. lol |
| 05:29.13 | Zeal | both thott and wowhead have it right |
| 05:35.59 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 05:36.14 | Zeal | Skosiris, is there a reason why player factions are missing from wowhead? |
| 05:38.34 | Zeal | and Defias Brotherhood :s |
| 05:39.34 | Zeal | think i get it, you've dropped all factions that you can't gain rep with. |
| 05:39.37 | Zeal | fair enough. |
| 05:41.27 | Skosiris | Yeah, we removed all "junk" factions from listings |
| 05:41.40 | Zeal | kk |
| 05:41.49 | Skosiris | e.g. : |
| 05:41.53 | Skosiris | Chess, Friendly to All Chess |
| 05:41.59 | Skosiris | Crazed OwlkinCreature |
| 05:42.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:42.02 | Skosiris | DEPRECATED |
| 05:42.25 | Zeal | basically everything with -1 as the rep id |
| 05:43.24 | Skosiris | -1, what do you mean? |
| 05:45.17 | Zeal | second column in Faction.dbc |
| 05:45.17 | Zeal | signed integer. all factions without reputation are set to -1 |
| 05:45.34 | Zeal | though i'd imagine it's also a reference ID for something else. |
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| 05:49.53 | Skosiris | nah, there are some factions with -1 that we didn't want to appear, such as Blacksmithing - Swordsmithing |
| 05:50.05 | Skyfire | who is "we"? Wowhead?... |
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| 05:50.18 | Zeal | yes |
| 05:50.21 | Skyfire | aha |
| 05:50.54 | Skosiris | http://www.wowhead.com/?aboutus |
| 05:51.07 | Skosiris | "we" would include me and Mystadio |
| 05:51.56 | Skosiris | btw, that About Us page sucks |
| 05:52.23 | Skosiris | Tim made it to look "profesionnal", but it sounds way too pretentious |
| 05:54.41 | Skyfire | well, thank you for wowhead. i started using your talent calc as soon as it came out ;p |
| 05:55.46 | Zeal | and how does the web design and graphics? |
| 05:55.56 | Zeal | *who |
| 05:57.27 | Skosiris | I'm in charge of these |
| 05:57.53 | Skosiris | thanks Skyfire, that's good to hear :) |
| 06:01.52 | Skosiris | do you have an account? |
| 06:03.13 | Zeal | well i really have only one request of Wowhead. get xml feeds so devlopers can pull your info easier instead of using alla all the time :p |
| 06:04.29 | Skosiris | sure |
| 06:04.45 | Skosiris | actually, the XML feeds are working and available already, just not officially yet ;) |
| 06:05.03 | Skyfire | yup actually :) |
| 06:05.11 | Zeal | ah |
| 06:05.14 | Zeal | hehe |
| 06:05.14 | Skyfire | Titled, appropriate (imo) Skyfire |
| 06:05.18 | Skyfire | ^^ |
| 06:05.22 | Skyfire | ly* |
| 06:05.25 | Zeal | i don't have an account, heh. |
| 06:06.18 | Skyfire | make an account then! >:) |
| 06:06.38 | Skosiris | lol |
| 06:07.11 | Skosiris | I just found some old screenshot of the site, about 2 weeks before the site's launch |
| 06:07.36 | Skyfire | mmm, well, night allzzzzzzz. have some calculus to do, and then i will probably clockout (damn cold pills). |
| 06:07.44 | Skyfire | >_< |
| 06:08.34 | Skosiris | http://www.wowhead.com/old-wowhead.gif |
| 06:08.55 | Skyfire | lol. crazy |
| 06:11.44 | Zeal | Skosiris, may i ask, why PHP5 over ruby on rails? |
| 06:16.34 | Skosiris | well, I don't know anything about Ruby on rails |
| 06:16.56 | Skosiris | besides the fact you can use it to create a complete forum system under 15 minutes |
| 06:17.21 | Zeal | lol fair enough them |
| 06:17.30 | Skosiris | How does it work? what's the syntax like? |
| 06:17.44 | Zeal | i only dabble, but i had someone teached me a fair bit about ruby on rails to know i'd rather use it. |
| 06:17.52 | Zeal | *teach |
| 06:18.12 | Skosiris | kk |
| 06:18.24 | Zeal | hm.. the syntax is supposed to be based on normal language contructs, so it reads rather logically. |
| 06:18.50 | Zeal | ie. it reads like a crude english sentance. |
| 06:18.54 | Skosiris | is it some kind of framework for php? |
| 06:19.01 | Skosiris | or does it has its own parser/engine |
| 06:19.01 | Zeal | its framework for ruby |
| 06:19.19 | Zeal | aye, own parser/engine. |
| 06:20.09 | Zeal | i actually have two books in pdf which a rather expensive apparently (given to me by person who was teaching me), teaches it all, but i only got so far and other things cropped up as usual ;P |
| 06:20.19 | Zeal | *are rather |
| 06:20.40 | Zeal | plus i don't like programming much x_x; |
| 06:21.33 | Zeal | but yeah, using it along side ajax, its the embodiment of web 2.0 imo :p |
| 06:21.45 | Zeal | hm.. *pinical |
| 06:21.48 | Zeal | that works.. lol |
| 06:24.22 | Zeal | slow down again |
| 06:24.34 | Skosiris | the Wiki engine is php right? |
| 06:25.52 | Zeal | aye |
| 06:26.05 | Zeal | there is a ruby on rails wiki system around |
| 06:26.14 | Zeal | but it's very basic |
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| 07:13.51 | Viper007Bond | site down for anyone else? |
| 07:20.00 | Zeal | it was jsut me making template edits |
| 07:20.11 | Zeal | fine now |
| 07:23.46 | Viper007Bond | it was timing out for me |
| 07:24.03 | Viper007Bond | workin now |
| 07:24.13 | Zeal | aye, that's usually what happens when someones editing popular templates :p |
| 07:24.30 | Viper007Bond | ah |
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| 07:27.04 | Zeal | liek what i'm doing right now :P |
| 07:27.30 | Zeal | jsut going through the wow utility templates, removing redundant templates we no longer need. |
| 07:39.16 | sancus | ruby sucks |
| 07:39.17 | sancus | that is all |
| 07:41.01 | Zeal | sure sancus, sure.. |
| 07:44.15 | bleetah | how'd Maim Blackhand die? |
| 07:44.25 | bleetah | it's not mentioned on the wiki article |
| 07:44.56 | Zeal | beyond my knowledge of lore sadly :s |
| 07:45.06 | Zeal | iirc, they were both suppsoed to have died against the humans |
| 07:45.12 | Zeal | but WoW brought rend back.. |
| 07:45.54 | bleetah | that's good enough for me to comment in Barrens Chat and seem smart ;) thx |
| 07:46.35 | Zeal | "At the end of the Second War, Rend and his brother, Maim, fled to find sanctuary within the mountainous stronghold of Blackrock Spire. It was there that Rend declared himself Warchief of the weakened Blackrock clan. |
| 07:46.35 | Zeal | Rend and his brother Maim ruled the Spire, in constant conflict with the Dark Iron Dwarves. They managed to displace the dwarves in the upper portion of the city, but only after the dragons came and only after the death of Maim. |
| 07:46.38 | Zeal | *" |
| 07:47.24 | Zeal | oh.. that's on the article |
| 07:47.25 | Zeal | bah |
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| 07:49.02 | bleetah | "maybe Main saw a spirit guide, or logged a GM ticket" is the conclusion of the barrens discussion |
| 07:49.16 | Zeal | rofl |
| 07:49.26 | bleetah | er |
| 07:49.28 | bleetah | *Rend |
| 07:49.56 | Skosiris | bedtime for me |
| 07:50.44 | Skosiris | (S) |
| 07:50.49 | Zeal | nn Skosiris |
| 07:51.01 | Skosiris | nn? |
| 07:51.10 | Skosiris | define:nn |
| 07:51.45 | bleetah | 'night night' aka 'good night' |
| 07:52.05 | bleetah | 'night night' is informal and friendly |
| 07:52.11 | Skosiris | ahh, |
| 07:52.15 | bleetah | 'good night' is formal and friendly |
| 07:52.21 | Skosiris | got it |
| 07:52.26 | bleetah | 'go away' is formal and rude |
| 07:52.29 | Skosiris | lol |
| 07:52.35 | Skosiris | aight, talk to you later ! |
| 07:52.36 | bleetah | '*$#^ off' is.. i'll let you work that out ;) |
| 07:52.38 | bleetah | nn Skosiris |
| 07:56.56 | Zeal | rofl |
| 07:56.58 | bleetah | just a blip last week, eh? http://www.asx.com.au/asx/WidgetChartServlet?asxCode=XJO&width=630&height=240 |
| 07:57.00 | bleetah | mt |
| 07:59.15 | Zeal | bleetah, it would seem Maim died fighting the Dwarves in Blackrockspire. |
| 07:59.29 | Zeal | though it's never really said. |
| 07:59.51 | Zeal | and i can't find any pre-wow info about his death. |
| 08:01.40 | Zeal | it's a shame Bagginsww isn't about, as he might know more about it. |
| 08:01.45 | bleetah | I guess it could be lore/plot they're holding on to for future development |
| 08:02.06 | bleetah | Zeal: I'll keep it in mind, although I'm not a huge lore follower the question now has my interest piqued |
| 08:02.14 | Zeal | well all i know, is before i got into the lore, people were mentioning about how rend was supposed to be dead.. |
| 08:02.53 | Zeal | and warcraft 1 - 2 i've never played, so i only have second hand info from that period in time : / |
| 08:03.00 | Zeal | yay for the new book coming.. |
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| 09:27.55 | Zeal | argh! |
| 09:28.02 | Zeal | god damn crappy templates.. |
| 09:28.46 | Zeal | i should probably brush up on my regular expressions.. |
| 10:48.41 | Zeal | O_o |
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| 10:56.08 | bleetah | oKirkburn|afk: this (c|sh)ould amuse you -> http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/browse/social-care/general/vacancy-1276235.html |
| 10:56.28 | bleetah | "You will be responsible for co-ordinating racist incidents across West Sussex" |
| 10:56.59 | bleetah | just try to s/racist/stupid/, and you'll be set :-P |
| 10:57.50 | Zeal | blaurgh |
| 10:58.15 | bleetah | personally, I think they need a copywriter more |
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| 11:10.24 | Adys | alo |
| 11:10.31 | amro | hi |
| 11:10.33 | Zeal | hey adys |
| 11:10.35 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 11:11.05 | Zeal | Adys, http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinks-item ;) |
| 11:12.29 | Adys | Saw that =) |
| 11:12.35 | Adys | Ace job guys tbh |
| 11:13.05 | Zeal | :) |
| 11:13.53 | Adys | So zeal |
| 11:13.59 | Adys | I was thinking last time |
| 11:14.17 | Adys | {{elinks|12345|type=item/zone/faction/mob...}} |
| 11:14.25 | Adys | possible you think? |
| 11:14.40 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Spellarticle <-- that's yours right? just a full plage template right? |
| 11:14.43 | Zeal | *page |
| 11:14.55 | Adys | Aye |
| 11:15.00 | Adys | modify at will |
| 11:15.09 | Zeal | you mean item or zone, or a combination? |
| 11:15.14 | amro | hm where's the category with all the icons? |
| 11:15.22 | Adys | Category:WoW Icons |
| 11:15.25 | amro | thanks |
| 11:15.45 | Adys | Zeal: nah I was thinkiing instead of having multiple template we could have only one |
| 11:16.02 | Adys | Full of If's.. :p |
| 11:16.07 | Zeal | atm, it does {{Elinks|Links={{Elinks-item|<id>}}{{Elinks-NPC|<id>}}*[http://www.google.com some random link]}} for example. |
| 11:16.27 | Zeal | nah, cos theres possible times you'd want to combine the types |
| 11:16.44 | Adys | hm, like? |
| 11:16.45 | Zeal | a guide. |
| 11:16.53 | Zeal | i did have a better example when i woke up |
| 11:16.54 | Adys | fair enough |
| 11:16.57 | Zeal | but forgotten now, lol |
| 11:17.07 | Adys | nah i see |
| 11:17.43 | Adys | btw for the icon thing i insist |
| 11:18.13 | Adys | i rather have no icon than a jpg/gif, so that at least we get to know easily whats wrong and stuff |
| 11:18.37 | Adys | its impossible to have a list of jpgs etc uploaded |
| 11:19.13 | Zeal | adys, would you rather have no icon when it's been specifed in full, or no icon when it's not specified in full |
| 11:19.20 | Zeal | cos that's your options atm :P |
| 11:19.36 | Zeal | if you want to enforce it, you've gotta go changes all the pages using {{tooltip}} |
| 11:19.51 | Adys | That a bot can do easy =) |
| 11:20.14 | Zeal | and considering that all the old use of {{icon}} needed to be removed anyways, it seemed like a better option to do it this way |
| 11:20.25 | Zeal | rather that retroactively changing |
| 11:20.38 | Zeal | and thne having to go back and change it all again when they're removed. |
| 11:20.57 | Adys | Tbh, we will do that anyways, as soon as we got a bot ready to do the icon work |
| 11:21.06 | Zeal | but thats the thing adys |
| 11:21.10 | Zeal | we don't have a bot |
| 11:21.23 | Zeal | hob's not running his, vv has gone away for a while. |
| 11:21.23 | Adys | I know ive read all the talks etc dw |
| 11:21.26 | Zeal | :p |
| 11:21.45 | Adys | but as soon as we got a bot we will do it thats what i mean |
| 11:21.48 | Zeal | the changes needed to happen, wasn't going to wait for a bot to miraculously appear. |
| 11:21.56 | Zeal | if you want |
| 11:22.05 | Adys | Yar i know |
| 11:22.06 | Zeal | i'd rather leave it optional. |
| 11:22.28 | Zeal | don't see a good reason not to. |
| 11:23.19 | Adys | Well you do agree on the fact that as soon as we got a bot ready we will change tooltip and icon so it uses ext=... |
| 11:23.21 | Adys | dont you? |
| 11:23.29 | Adys | Im not talking about now :P |
| 11:24.22 | Zeal | nope? |
| 11:24.25 | Zeal | i see no reason to |
| 11:24.35 | Adys | To enforce it, as you said |
| 11:24.39 | Zeal | it's not harmful asking for the extension. |
| 11:24.50 | Zeal | yeah, i don't see a reason to enforce it. |
| 11:25.29 | Adys | Hey hey hey |
| 11:25.30 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Articles_for_speedy_deletion |
| 11:25.33 | Adys | whats happening here |
| 11:25.39 | Zeal | hm? |
| 11:26.12 | Zeal | onyl the template stuff is me |
| 11:26.22 | Zeal | the rest is all seperate |
| 11:26.35 | Zeal | possibly a few user pages might appear in there |
| 11:26.40 | Adys | you speedydeleted a template without includeonly? |
| 11:26.40 | Zeal | and policy talks |
| 11:26.59 | Zeal | after i removed it from all pages except archives and userp ages, yes. |
| 11:27.36 | Zeal | which will oh so nicely make whoever is deleting it remove it from those pages |
| 11:27.40 | Adys | Just includeonly it next time will ya please :P |
| 11:27.50 | Zeal | as that is the job of speedydelete after all |
| 11:27.56 | Zeal | there's no need to. : / |
| 11:28.21 | Adys | dont make it harder on purpose for everyone thats just what i ask :p |
| 11:29.25 | Zeal | it's supposed to make it easier.. |
| 11:29.41 | Zeal | i'd appreciate it if the roles were reversed. |
| 11:29.42 | Adys | Zeal |
| 11:29.44 | Adys | nevermind ^^ |
| 11:30.11 | Zeal | but anyways, as you can see, major clean up of the template cat |
| 11:30.17 | Zeal | *that |
| 11:30.26 | Adys | Aye |
| 11:48.14 | Zeal | i kills it |
| 11:48.55 | Adys | wah?N |
| 11:49.13 | Zeal | changed cats on two popular css templates :P |
| 11:49.38 | Zeal | thats a how lot of problems.. lol |
| 11:49.41 | Zeal | *whole |
| 11:53.08 | Zeal | Adys, think i should just merge http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:War3blizztextcolor and http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Blizztextcolor into one shade of blue? i can't see any reason to keep both tbh. |
| 11:53.43 | Adys | Keep an archive of them somewhere and merger |
| 11:53.44 | Adys | merge |
| 11:53.54 | Adys | this will prob be done with parse functions |
| 11:53.58 | Adys | Colors: |
| 11:54.05 | Zeal | huh? |
| 11:54.06 | Adys | war3=... blizztext=... |
| 11:54.23 | Zeal | er.. won't it just be in the css file? :P |
| 11:54.36 | Adys | Fuck me, nevermind lol |
| 11:54.46 | Zeal | lol |
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| 11:55.02 | Zeal | which to keep? hehe |
| 11:55.11 | Zeal | both ugly imo |
| 11:55.25 | Zeal | think i'll go with blizz one |
| 11:56.59 | Adys | yes keep the blizz one |
| 11:59.26 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:War3blizztextcolor&action=edit hows that? |
| 12:01.12 | Adys | Aye perfect |
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| 12:01.55 | Adys | except that it doesnt redirect for me :P |
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| 12:04.31 | Zeal | it doesn't? :S |
| 12:04.38 | Zeal | it's redirecting for the includes.. |
| 12:05.03 | Zeal | hm.. redirects fine for me. |
| 12:05.04 | Adys | now it does sorry, cach prob |
| 12:05.31 | Zeal | lol |
| 12:08.34 | Zeal | all done |
| 12:08.44 | Zeal | now, i'm going for a soak. |
| 12:08.45 | Zeal | bbl |
| 12:13.10 | zeal | http://www.snabbstart.com/film/1312d80b94 |
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| 14:04.19 | Adys | oookay im off, cya all |
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| 14:58.50 | Bagginsww | zeal its mentioned in one of the quests, as I recall. One of the ones that talks about Rend. |
| 14:59.26 | Bagginsww | although I don't remember all the details |
| 14:59.46 | oKirkburn | Morning |
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| 15:02.29 | Tekkub | whee! |
| 15:02.30 | Tepetkhet | Hello. |
| 15:02.32 | Tekkub | mall wifi |
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| 15:05.28 | oKirkburn | Hey Tekkub |
| 15:05.45 | Tekkub | heyoKockBurn |
| 15:05.57 | oKirkburn | :( |
| 15:06.22 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 15:06.22 | oKirkburn | Is that all I am to you?! |
| 15:06.51 | oKirkburn | Zeal, you around? |
| 15:07.04 | Tekkub | nah, you're good for casual sex too |
| 15:07.21 | Tekkub | damnit, it was peaceful here till the recepitionist turned on the goddamn TV |
| 15:07.31 | Tekkub | *grumble* |
| 15:07.37 | oKirkburn | lol |
| 15:07.48 | Tekkub | I hate TV in general, but early morn shit is.... |
| 15:07.50 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 15:08.54 | Tekkub | I'd rather be getting a tooth pulled |
| 15:09.00 | Tekkub | oh wait they can do that for em! |
| 15:09.02 | Tekkub | *me |
| 15:11.40 | Tekkub | how is an alergy medicine that gives you upper respatory infection a solution? |
| 15:12.08 | Tekkub | GAH! I wish I had my universal TV off remote with me |
| 15:15.09 | amro`afk | kek |
| 15:15.49 | Trae | man |
| 15:15.54 | Trae | wow-pro.com has been down a while |
| 15:16.15 | Trae | are there any other good level guides out there? |
| 15:16.32 | Trae | I used that one from L30-L60 and it was nice. (The Jame's Guide series) |
| 15:17.12 | amro`afk | horde or alliance? |
| 15:17.17 | winkiller | I use guides only for professions |
| 15:17.22 | winkiller | just do quests :P |
| 15:19.38 | Trae | alliance |
| 15:19.39 | Trae | sorry |
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| 15:21.10 | Tekkub | yea, quests will guide you around :P |
| 15:21.24 | Tekkub | and read the quests damnit! some of em are god |
| 15:21.27 | Tekkub | *good |
| 15:21.58 | Tekkub | "Well if it can't accept the invitation civily, it's probably best you put it down" |
| 15:22.00 | amro`afk | I always read quest text the first time around |
| 15:22.02 | oKirkburn | I liked calling them god. Some of them really are :) |
| 15:25.49 | Bagginsww | hey kirkburn, remember that policy they tried to ratify on how material fans decide are "controversial" hasn't been utilized at all, LOL. |
| 15:25.58 | oKirkburn | :) |
| 15:26.31 | Bagginsww | no one has bothered to update any MoM article as far as I know. heh. |
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| 15:26.53 | Bagginsww | and I'm not going to be adding anything more to htem... unless some later book adds material :p |
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| 15:27.19 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9951 |
| 15:27.22 | Kaso | Any Admins around? |
| 15:27.26 | Kaso | oKirkburn ? |
| 15:27.30 | Tekkub | it doesn't have the complete text tho :( |
| 15:27.38 | oKirkburn | Hey Kaso |
| 15:27.46 | Kaso | can you take a look at: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Life-Raping_Staff_of_Madness |
| 15:28.10 | oKirkburn | I see no page there ;) |
| 15:28.19 | Bagginsww | pinnywinny? sounds like one of those games like Pigzig :p |
| 15:28.22 | Kaso | Ha |
| 15:28.25 | Kaso | faster than me |
| 15:28.25 | Bagginsww | *name |
| 15:28.26 | Kaso | thanks |
| 15:29.27 | oKirkburn | "Equip: Sexy flowers bloom from whatever the wielder touches" |
| 15:29.33 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 15:29.49 | Bagginsww | I have to say Murlantis was great piece of humor... |
| 15:30.04 | oKirkburn | "May only be wielded by "The One". He knows who he is, and he is not you." |
| 15:30.09 | Bagginsww | but doesn't belong on the forums, LOL |
| 15:30.21 | oKirkburn | Murlantis? |
| 15:30.56 | Bagginsww | was a page made by a vandal the other day |
| 15:31.04 | Bagginsww | it was speedy deleted |
| 15:31.32 | Bagginsww | someone created the page, and then updated murlock article to include it :p |
| 15:31.33 | oKirkburn | "Murlantis is the Great underwater city of the Murlocs, Though little is known of the city it is clear that it is run by a more intelegent rce of murlocs than the murlocs found on land. |
| 15:31.33 | oKirkburn | " |
| 15:31.55 | oKirkburn | If only people learnt to spell before they made up stuff :) |
| 15:32.03 | Bagginsww | LOL ya |
| 15:32.14 | Bagginsww | I wonder what the murlock home city is called |
| 15:32.26 | Kaso | By the way, i accidently put a comment on that guys user: rather than user_talk: i deleted the content of the page however, was that the correct "thing to do" |
| 15:32.33 | Bagginsww | the european cite hints that htey have a city |
| 15:34.02 | Bagginsww | *site |
| 15:34.17 | oKirkburn | Kaso, np |
| 15:34.25 | Bagginsww | and lands of mysteyr hints that they are smarter than they act... |
| 15:34.32 | oKirkburn | You only get notified for changes to the talk page |
| 15:34.52 | oKirkburn | Yeah |
| 15:35.04 | oKirkburn | Will be interesting to find out the backstory some day |
| 15:35.18 | Bagginsww | inside of their huts for example do not match the outsides. |
| 15:35.18 | amro`afk | Bagginsww: smarter yes, but are they more "intelegent"? |
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| 15:35.27 | Bagginsww | they have a high degree of culture |
| 15:35.36 | amro`afk | and very fast legs |
| 15:35.45 | Tekkub | crab people |
| 15:35.46 | Bagginsww | inside of their huts are full of artwork, and very nice furniture |
| 15:35.53 | Bagginsww | that they made |
| 15:35.54 | Tekkub | look like crabs |
| 15:35.58 | Tekkub | talk like people |
| 15:36.02 | Hobinheim | crab people crab people |
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| 15:36.06 | Bagginsww | and they trade with people |
| 15:36.09 | oKirkburn | Murlocs: The Real Story |
| 15:36.12 | Bagginsww | sell some of their artwork |
| 15:36.16 | Hobinheim|work | news at 11 |
| 15:36.20 | Bagginsww | bone carvings and stuff |
| 15:36.34 | Bagginsww | but you have to learn nerglish first, ;) |
| 15:36.46 | Hobinheim|work | mmmgggrrrlll |
| 15:36.47 | Bagginsww | or find Murlocs that know your language |
| 15:37.02 | Tekkub | bah I'm hungry |
| 15:37.11 | Tekkub | wonder if the prezzil place is open yet |
| 15:37.17 | Bagginsww | there is rumors of a great leader, known as the sea mother or some such thing |
| 15:37.26 | Bagginsww | one of their deities |
| 15:37.51 | Bagginsww | when I have time I really need to update the murloc page with lands of mystery material :p |
| 15:37.59 | Bagginsww | supposed to be more info in dark factions too |
| 15:38.04 | Bagginsww | from what I hear |
| 15:38.38 | Bagginsww | EU site implies an almost Lovecraft, Deep Ones type history. |
| 15:38.51 | Bagginsww | ties to Old Gods, etc |
| 15:39.12 | Bagginsww | great civilization that predates all other life on the planet |
| 15:39.19 | Tekkub | oh may awd becky.... |
| 15:39.32 | Tekkub | now I remember why I stopped watching TV ads |
| 15:39.54 | Tekkub | they just played the ol Happy Happy Joy Joy song from Ren & Stimpy on a fucking Sara Lee ad |
| 15:40.01 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 15:40.02 | Tekkub | god what's wrong with these people |
| 15:40.50 | Bagginsww | They did the heart song from Animaniacs on American Heart Associatoin ad :p |
| 15:40.53 | Tekkub | "oh noes I need to protect my teens from the interwebz!" |
| 15:40.57 | Tekkub | stupid TV |
| 15:41.11 | Tekkub | hi, there's nothing you can do, THEY are protecting YOU from the real internet |
| 15:41.28 | Bagginsww | however the heart song was semi-educational |
| 15:41.36 | Bagginsww | kind of like the state song |
| 15:41.38 | Tekkub | "MySpace is full of pedophiles!" |
| 15:42.20 | Bagginsww | as it was accurate description of how the heart processes work |
| 15:42.20 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 15:42.20 | Bagginsww | to music |
| 15:42.20 | Tekkub | R&S was just, twisted |
| 15:42.34 | Bagginsww | the close ups were the most twisted |
| 15:42.43 | Tekkub | and the new one... yea they were so gay |
| 15:42.43 | Tekkub | of course |
| 15:42.56 | Tekkub | ha, this is so stupid |
| 15:43.00 | Bagginsww | although I found out Ren & Stimply kind of copied style of Tex Avery |
| 15:43.14 | Bagginsww | just made things alot worse |
| 15:43.28 | Tekkub | they're showing a plain simple easy to read uncluttered page and saying it's a "typlical myspace page" |
| 15:44.35 | Tekkub | ha, they want em to tell kids that people are gonna look at their myspace page when they apply for a job too |
| 15:44.48 | Tekkub | make this shitty show go away |
| 15:45.12 | equiraptor | My employer looked at my livejournal and my website before hiring me. |
| 15:45.22 | equiraptor | I work in tech, though. |
| 15:45.30 | Tekkub | and I'm betting you linked em to it |
| 15:46.12 | oKirkburn | I link them to my website, I'm too lazy for a bloggy type thing though |
| 15:46.32 | equiraptor | I didn't, Tekkub. |
| 15:46.37 | Tekkub | "oh noes, when you're looking for a summer job they might find out that you're a NORMAL TEENAGER... then you'll never get a job" |
| 15:46.41 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
| 15:46.43 | equiraptor | I gave them my email address, which is @equiraptor.com |
| 15:46.57 | Tekkub | well that's your own fault :) |
| 15:46.59 | equiraptor | They, not being stupid, discovered that I own equiraptor.com and checked the website, which links to my LJ. |
| 15:47.06 | equiraptor | I don't think "fault" is the right word there. |
| 15:47.14 | Tekkub | I do |
| 15:47.21 | Tekkub | :) |
| 15:47.22 | equiraptor | Anything I allow to be publicly viewable online is publicly viewable. |
| 15:47.30 | equiraptor | If a possible employeer wants to try to find it, FINE. |
| 15:47.42 | Tekkub | but I've been handing out disposable forwarding addresses for years |
| 15:47.43 | equiraptor | I don't consider that a violation of privacy. |
| 15:47.59 | equiraptor | Now, if they tried to hack into my gallery or LJ to see my private / protected stuff, that would be a violation. |
| 15:48.00 | Tekkub | I never said it was |
| 15:48.02 | equiraptor | That wouldn't be ok. |
| 15:48.05 | Tekkub | I just said it was your fault |
| 15:48.16 | equiraptor | Your use of words like "fault" imply that there's something bad about it. |
| 15:48.22 | equiraptor | I don't think there is. |
| 15:48.41 | equiraptor | I also don't think there's any harm in reminding kids that things they make public online are, well, public. |
| 15:48.44 | Tekkub | no, your interpretation of word like "fault" make you feel bad, but that's your fault too |
| 15:48.45 | equiraptor | And that anyone can find them. |
| 15:48.52 | equiraptor | Fine, be an asshole. |
| 15:48.56 | Tekkub | :) |
| 15:49.04 | Tekkub | make the TV go away and I'll be in a better mood |
| 15:49.18 | equiraptor | Turn it off. Ignore it. |
| 15:49.27 | equiraptor | Play some music in headphones, or something, if you can't turn it off. :-P |
| 15:49.31 | Tekkub | it's not mine, I'm at the dentists office |
| 15:49.41 | Tekkub | there's a bunch of people sitting around |
| 15:49.42 | equiraptor | Can you wait outside? |
| 15:49.52 | equiraptor | Or is it nasty out there? |
| 15:49.57 | Tekkub | and I don't have my lil tv turner offer keychain thing with me |
| 15:50.02 | Tekkub | it's at a mall |
| 15:50.02 | equiraptor | heh |
| 15:50.12 | Tekkub | everything but this is closed |
| 15:50.14 | Tekkub | too early |
| 15:50.15 | equiraptor | So wait just outside of range of the TV. Tell the receptionist. |
| 15:50.16 | equiraptor | :) |
| 15:50.25 | equiraptor | "I'll be over there when you need me." |
| 15:50.33 | Tekkub | she won't need me |
| 15:50.41 | equiraptor | So why are you waiting around? |
| 15:50.43 | Tekkub | but the hubby will be all drugged and prolly get lost |
| 15:50.45 | Tepetkhet | Fault does imply there's something bad. |
| 15:50.47 | equiraptor | Ah. |
| 15:51.05 | Tekkub | ah fuck me daddy |
| 15:51.06 | equiraptor | Still, tell the receptionist so s/he can help hubby finnd you. |
| 15:51.06 | Tekkub | he's done |
| 15:51.06 | Hobinheim|work | oKirkburn, my brother wants confirmation, do all the cool kids watch to pgear? |
| 15:51.09 | Tekkub | FREEDOM! |
| 15:51.09 | Hobinheim|work | *top gear |
| 15:51.10 | equiraptor | Yay. |
| 15:51.12 | equiraptor | :) |
| 15:51.16 | Tekkub | horrible horrible freedom |
| 15:51.21 | oKirkburn | Top Gear is awesome |
| 15:51.31 | equiraptor | Hobinheim|work: Anyone who has any hope of ever beeing cool and caring about cars watches top gear. |
| 15:51.40 | Hobinheim|work | did anyone see zodiac? i freakin hated it |
| 15:51.42 | Tekkub | aw, I'm not cool |
| 15:51.47 | Tekkub | woe is me |
| 15:51.54 | Tekkub | guess that means I have to be emo |
| 15:51.56 | Tepetkhet | Really?? |
| 15:52.00 | Tepetkhet | I liked Zodiac. |
| 15:52.22 | equiraptor | Tekkub: Are you a car person? |
| 15:52.29 | Tekkub | ... |
| 15:52.34 | Tekkub | I own a car |
| 15:52.41 | Tekkub | I'm a person |
| 15:52.42 | oKirkburn | You don't have to be a car enthusiast to enjoy Top Gear |
| 15:52.42 | equiraptor | I suspect you're not. |
| 15:52.49 | Tekkub | :P |
| 15:52.54 | Hobinheim|work | my brother downloads it weekly now |
| 15:52.58 | Hobinheim|work | it's the new thing, i hear |
| 15:53.01 | Hobinheim|work | i don't watch it sadly |
| 15:53.02 | equiraptor | oKirkburn: Sure. Never denied that. |
| 15:53.05 | Tekkub | no, but my roomie is a car person/has a speed fetish |
| 15:53.09 | Tekkub | it gets old really |
| 15:53.20 | oKirkburn | Top Gear has been around for yeeeears, but it recently had a make-over |
| 15:53.20 | equiraptor | oKirkburn: My point is that you don't lose coolness for not watching top gear if you're not a car enthusiast. |
| 15:53.25 | Tekkub | he tries to make everything go fast, and in the end just breaks it |
| 15:53.39 | oKirkburn | equiraptor, nah, I'm just saying that anyone will like it :) |
| 15:53.45 | Tekkub | it's an expensive fetish |
| 15:53.49 | equiraptor | My mother wouldn't! :-P |
| 15:53.51 | Tekkub | I'm glad my fetish is fur |
| 15:54.04 | Hobinheim|work | my epic strider can beat your ferrari, hurr |
| 15:54.21 | equiraptor | A friend of mine just made a new Mustang go 267mph. |
| 15:54.23 | equiraptor | Or so he claims. |
| 15:54.39 | Hobinheim|work | btw is it true that goon guilds have a bad reputation? i.e. they're jerks or kill on sight? |
| 15:54.49 | Hobinheim|work | anyone in the same battlegroup as mal'ganis US? |
| 15:56.24 | equiraptor | http://www.nrubenstein.com/albums/album10/amv81.jpg Oooo. |
| 15:56.29 | equiraptor | Looks sexy from that angle. |
| 15:58.33 | oKirkburn | The BBC is getting really anti-MS atm |
| 15:58.55 | oKirkburn | They keep hyping up Apple stuff, and use misleading headlines for MS articles - e.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6418965.stm |
| 15:58.57 | Hobinheim|work | i thought that was a picture of jake gyllenhaal =( |
| 15:59.54 | equiraptor | haha |
| 16:00.49 | equiraptor | My car has cone marks on it. |
| 16:04.21 | Hobinheim|work | i just had a brain lapse and forgot what CC stood for... |
| 16:04.55 | Tepetkhet | Crowd control? Credit Card? Close Caption? Carbon Copy? |
| 16:05.05 | Hobinheim|work | the first one, alex! |
| 16:11.39 | Zeal | gfdgfd stupid irc |
| 16:11.58 | Zeal | <Bagginsww> hey kirkburn, remember that policy they tried to ratify on how material fans decide are "controversial" hasn't been utilized at all, LOL. <-- the moment anything is implemented i'm recalling the vote. |
| 16:12.09 | Zeal | oKirkburn, what's up |
| 16:12.23 | oKirkburn | Was just gonna ask how the elinks changes were going? |
| 16:12.47 | Zeal | they're done, just need to start adding them to articles |
| 16:13.03 | oKirkburn | Apparently Clearfont.co.uk is about the 500,000th most popular website in the world, but it varies wildly |
| 16:13.08 | Zeal | i've doen a few as i was cleaning up the wow utilities cat. |
| 16:13.14 | Zeal | lol |
| 16:13.18 | oKirkburn | I'm about to watch the next ep of Heroes now :) |
| 16:13.29 | Zeal | die! |
| 16:13.32 | Zeal | new episode tonight too |
| 16:13.46 | Zeal | the one i just watched was last weeks... heh. |
| 16:15.00 | oKirkburn | :) |
| 16:15.42 | Hobinheim|work | heroes should be a doozy tonight |
| 16:15.46 | Hobinheim|work | too bad i'll be AT THE GYM |
| 16:16.47 | Zeal | i'll be asleep |
| 16:16.47 | Zeal | lol |
| 16:17.41 | Zeal | Hobinheim|work, in my clean up of some templates, i found something we agree on |
| 16:17.43 | Zeal | :p |
| 16:18.00 | Hobinheim|work | what |
| 16:18.13 | Zeal | the link templates that append external links to them |
| 16:18.28 | Zeal | on a talk page, you said they shouldn't be used and are a bad idea basically. |
| 16:18.48 | Hobinheim|work | cuz it's site bias and duplication of information, i believe |
| 16:19.15 | Hobinheim|work | it's more of a maintenance thing... there COULD be some crazy inclusion strategy |
| 16:19.25 | Zeal | aye, als othe fact using them means people never actually go to the wiki's articles to contribute/read/create |
| 16:19.33 | Hobinheim|work | right... |
| 16:19.42 | Hobinheim|work | i absolutely see the practical value in them for thottbot entries |
| 16:19.56 | Zeal | oh? |
| 16:20.02 | Hobinheim|work | but for our purposes it's just undermining our primary directive, or whatever starkirk wants to call it |
| 16:20.11 | Zeal | lol |
| 16:20.13 | Hobinheim|work | captain kirk |
| 16:20.15 | Zeal | yeah |
| 16:21.08 | Zeal | Captain Burn O Kirk |
| 16:21.14 | oKirkburn | What?! |
| 16:21.19 | Zeal | lol |
| 16:22.41 | oKirkburn | Bbl |
| 16:24.24 | Zeal | plus, adding a basic stub to our articles with those links on the page is a 2 second job now, so it's nicer to force people to go to our articles and gain the extra external links if we don't have all they want or make the basic stub, unless they wan't to be lame and not help the wiki, in which case we say stuff you and search for it yourself. |
| 16:24.30 | Zeal | anyways.. i'm going to bed |
| 16:24.31 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 16:32.55 | Hobinheim|work | hiyo Gryphen |
| 16:35.02 | Gryphen | hola |
| 16:35.24 | *** join/#wowwiki Whiskas^______^ (i=Whiskas_@bas4-montrealak-1096584049.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:36.22 | Whiskas^______^ | any admin not afk |
| 16:36.25 | Whiskas^______^ | i have a question |
| 16:36.58 | equiraptor | Ask your question, it'll be answered as we can (if it's something appropriate for the channel as a whole). |
| 16:37.01 | equiraptor | :) |
| 16:37.44 | Whiskas^______^ | okay so theres a rumor about a new mount phoenix or something |
| 16:37.55 | Whiskas^______^ | i have an image of it |
| 16:37.56 | Hobinheim|work | they call me whiskas |
| 16:38.01 | Whiskas^______^ | is it okay if i upload it |
| 16:38.09 | Hobinheim|work | cuz i'm curious, like a cat |
| 16:38.09 | Whiskas^______^ | =P |
| 16:38.11 | Hobinheim|work | HAY. WHAT IF THE MOON WAS MADE OF BBQ SPARE RIBS |
| 16:38.14 | Hobinheim|work | WOULD YOU EAT IT THEN? |
| 16:38.25 | Whiskas^______^ | of course |
| 16:38.26 | Hobinheim|work | i'm sure it's been posted already |
| 16:38.31 | Hobinheim|work | do you have a URL where we could see it |
| 16:38.33 | Whiskas^______^ | it wasnt =\ |
| 16:38.36 | Whiskas^______^ | ya one sec |
| 16:38.45 | Whiskas^______^ | http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofphoenixpicqo4.png |
| 16:40.14 | Whiskas^______^ | is that fine or ? |
| 16:42.08 | Hobinheim|work | that's been posted before, when the BC first came out |
| 16:42.23 | Hobinheim|work | i'm not really super duper excited about rumors on the site |
| 16:42.28 | Whiskas^______^ | its not in the page tho |
| 16:42.35 | Whiskas^______^ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Phoenix |
| 16:42.55 | Whiskas^______^ | i dont know i just wanted to post a pic of it since i didnt see any |
| 16:43.34 | Hobinheim|work | ok |
| 16:43.46 | Hobinheim|work | hmm |
| 16:43.49 | Hobinheim|work | where did you find that image |
| 16:43.53 | Hobinheim|work | could you give a source at least |
| 16:44.06 | Whiskas^______^ | i did it |
| 16:44.22 | Hobinheim|work | what? |
| 16:44.25 | Whiskas^______^ | i took the picture |
| 16:44.31 | Hobinheim|work | how |
| 16:44.39 | Whiskas^______^ | alpha |
| 16:44.45 | Hobinheim|work | alpha what? |
| 16:44.51 | Whiskas^______^ | wow alpha |
| 16:46.12 | Hobinheim|work | how did you get it? |
| 16:47.41 | Whiskas^______^ | i was in nogg-aholic |
| 16:48.18 | Whiskas^______^ | like 6 months ago |
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| 16:49.39 | Whiskas^______^ | do u want me to post it or i just wont lol |
| 16:49.45 | Whiskas^______^ | it was just to show people how it looked like |
| 16:49.47 | Whiskas^______^ | i dont mind |
| 16:58.16 | Hobinheim|work | describe as much as you can about whereit's from |
| 16:58.22 | Hobinheim|work | then that's fine |
| 16:59.18 | Hobinheim|work | noggaholic, huh... |
| 16:59.26 | oKirkburn|afk | Aye, unreleased content is an absolute no-no |
| 16:59.38 | oKirkburn|afk | We have had take-down notices before, and vlad_ doesn't want more |
| 16:59.39 | Hobinheim|work | oh boo scratch what i said then |
| 16:59.42 | Hobinheim|work | sorry Whiskas^______^ |
| 16:59.44 | oKirkburn|afk | heh |
| 16:59.52 | Whiskas^______^ | ok np :) |
| 17:00.03 | oKirkburn|afk | You can link to it on talk pages though if you want |
| 17:00.16 | oKirkburn|afk | Just as long as it is not hosted on the site |
| 17:00.37 | *** join/#wowwiki Macfiron (n=silvan@217.146.132.69) |
| 17:00.53 | Macfiron | Hi |
| 17:01.01 | Gryphen | heya |
| 17:01.20 | Whiskas^______^ | good thing i asked =) |
| 17:01.33 | oKirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 17:02.21 | oKirkburn|afk | Cool Heroes episode :D |
| 17:02.29 | Hobinheim|work | oKirkburn|afk, which one |
| 17:02.35 | oKirkburn|afk | Last night's |
| 17:02.55 | oKirkburn|afk | (last night for Canada) |
| 17:02.57 | Macfiron | I just tried to search to the Game_Terms-Category and when I hit the (next 200)-Button, it displays the first page. |
| 17:03.01 | Hobinheim|work | is it the one where the guy did that thing |
| 17:03.05 | Hobinheim|work | is canada a week behind the us? |
| 17:03.13 | oKirkburn|afk | A day ahead atm |
| 17:03.21 | oKirkburn|afk | Macfiron, that's odd |
| 17:03.27 | Hobinheim|work | hmm that's funny |
| 17:03.32 | Hobinheim|work | wait so heros is out already? |
| 17:03.48 | oKirkburn|afk | Macfiron, worked for me :? |
| 17:04.00 | Hobinheim|work | i didn't for me |
| 17:04.01 | oKirkburn|afk | You should get http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Game_Terms&from=Data+mine |
| 17:04.17 | Hobinheim|work | are you actually looking at the page tho? you see D terms and so on? |
| 17:04.26 | Macfiron | oKirkburn|afk: that's the displayed URL, but it presents the page from A to D |
| 17:04.27 | Hobinheim|work | hahaha |
| 17:04.30 | Hobinheim|work | Macfiron, are you logged in |
| 17:04.41 | oKirkburn|afk | They showed this week's Heroes episode a day earlier in Canada due to scheduling stuff :) |
| 17:04.47 | Macfiron | No, don't have a user yet. |
| 17:04.59 | Hobinheim|work | omg tell me you dled it from somewhere |
| 17:05.07 | oKirkburn|afk | yes |
| 17:05.10 | Hobinheim|work | Macfiron, that might be why |
| 17:05.18 | Hobinheim|work | probably a mediawiki bug |
| 17:05.24 | oKirkburn|afk | Not heard of that issue, but yeah, try making an account |
| 17:05.40 | oKirkburn|afk | (but then, we wouldn't hear about the bug because you have to have an account to tell us normally ^^ ) |
| 17:05.49 | Macfiron | I'll try creating an Account and report H-)) |
| 17:07.22 | Hobinheim|work | omg kirk, you're right |
| 17:07.38 | Hobinheim|work | must alert the internet! |
| 17:07.58 | Macfiron | Hobinheim|work: you were right, after creating an account/logging in, it worked. |
| 17:08.06 | Hobinheim|work | heh the internet already knows |
| 17:08.11 | Hobinheim|work | the forum was overrun by the canadians! |
| 17:08.28 | Hobinheim|work | damn them and their crafy scheduling |
| 17:09.29 | oKirkburn|afk | Hehe - http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Girlfriend-if-You're-a-Nerd |
| 17:09.57 | oKirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, http://www.eztvefnet.org/ ftw :) |
| 17:09.58 | Hobinheim|work | oh god i can't hold it in |
| 17:10.34 | Macfiron | Thanks for your help! Bye! |
| 17:12.30 | Whiskas^______^ | okay see you guys |
| 17:22.29 | winkiller | oKirkburn|afk: that even has a part 2 - http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Your-Girlfriend-to-Play-Video-Games |
| 17:22.40 | oKirkburn|afk | heh |
| 17:22.56 | amro`afk | wikihow is messed up |
| 17:24.55 | amro`afk | "Teach her how to uncramp her hands, because they will get tired during her first few sessions. Show her how you usually stretch out your hands, because if she equates video games with sore and stiff hands, she won't want to play any more. Maybe you could give her a hand massage to make her feel better." |
| 17:26.31 | Hobinheim|work | ? |
| 17:26.34 | Hobinheim|work | oh eww |
| 17:27.27 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh dear god |
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| 17:27.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | its WoW softporn |
| 17:28.20 | equiraptor | "If you get her into gaming, you might never get access to your computer or game console again." <-- Uhhh.... People still share computers? |
| 17:30.33 | amro`afk | http://www.wikihow.com/Fall-Asleep |
| 17:30.43 | amro`afk | here's my own how to fall asleep: try to read half that article |
| 17:36.04 | winkiller | hehe |
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| 17:51.29 | Kirkburn | Ticket servicing times are pretty good on EU servers atm :) Got my gold seller one answered in under 5 mins again |
| 17:52.54 | amro`afk | it depends, sometimes the GM database crashes (the one containing all the answers they copy-paste) |
| 17:59.23 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 17:59.35 | Kirkburn | I don't mind stock responses |
| 18:44.54 | Bagginsww | hmm someone's complaining about people putting refrences to fan idea of a "great seas" expansion in any article related to stuff in the great seas |
| 18:45.09 | Bagginsww | those don't belong outside |
| 18:45.16 | Bagginsww | the expansion rumors topic |
| 18:45.41 | Bagginsww | http://forum.white-wolf.com/viewtopic.php?t=54628 |
| 18:49.08 | Bagginsww | During Alpha, Blizzard did have two islands east of STV. They were "joke islands" - Jilligan's Island and The Isle of Dr. Lapidas (or something like that - spelling may be horribly off). From what I saw they were 100% not done (basically a flat landmass that looked ugly) and they were removed in beta (in fact, there was a bug where you could "cheat" the fatigue system and swim out there and the location name changed but th |
| 18:49.08 | Bagginsww | e islands were gone). |
| 18:49.11 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 18:53.51 | Bagginsww | anycase I think all refrences to a "great seas" expansion should be removed. |
| 18:54.03 | Bagginsww | and just remain in the expansion rumor article |
| 19:27.57 | Bagginsww | wow his arguement is right |
| 19:27.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Broken_Isles |
| 19:28.02 | Bagginsww | check out that article. |
| 19:28.10 | Bagginsww | mal'zhaer? |
| 19:28.19 | Bagginsww | most of that seems like fanfic that made it in |
| 19:28.27 | Bagginsww | no sources cited etc |
| 19:29.17 | Kirkburn | The movement? |
| 19:29.51 | Kirkburn | Oh those names appear to be from WCIII |
| 19:36.06 | amro`afk | Tomb of Sargeras (73-80) |
| 19:36.13 | amro`afk | Courtyard of the Eye (80+) |
| 19:36.25 | amro`afk | look at that, we have a blizzard designer updating the wiki ;P |
| 19:36.55 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:38.48 | Bagginsww | Broken Isles Entry: |
| 19:38.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Broken_Isles |
| 19:38.48 | Bagginsww | Please note the "Characteristics" section. This is fairly representative of the sort of misleading made-up "factoids" sprinkled throughout several of these articles. There's a "speculation" and "unsubstantiated rumors" warning tag at the top of the article, but I think this level of "I-just-made-it-all-up"-ness goes well beyond that. (E.g., the section claims the Broken Isles as a Horde area, populated by Naga, for levels |
| 19:38.49 | Bagginsww | 1 through 10.) |
| 19:38.50 | Bagginsww | And then there's the Tomb of Sargeras, which has been transformed into a level 73-80 area, and a "Raid Dungeon" ("Courtyard of the Eye"). |
| 19:38.53 | Bagginsww | Seriously, it's a mess. I wanted to look up to see if I could find anything about the Broken Isles - and I don't count someone's pipe dream as on par with lore I can get from the RTS games or WoW. (Granted, I'd love it if this were all true ... but it isn't, and I wish people wouldn't do such an extensive job of muddling things up like this.) |
| 19:38.57 | Bagginsww | Other such pages possibly affected: |
| 19:38.59 | Bagginsww | "Deep Covenent" {sic} page: (Redundant Naga lore) |
| 19:39.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Deep_Covenent |
| 19:39.05 | Bagginsww | "Mal'Zhaer" page: (Made-up placeholder? Or legit? I don't know.) |
| 19:39.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mal%27Zhaer |
| 19:39.09 | Bagginsww | "Maelstrom" page? (See "Zones & Locations"; several red [undefined] name areas. I'm not sure if these are legit, or whether these were made up as "zones".) |
| 19:39.12 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Maelstrom |
| 19:39.14 | Bagginsww | Several of the pages I saw appear to have already been reverted to their "pre-fan-made-up" versions. The only ones I'm for sure about are the "Deep Covenent" {sic} entry above, and the mess on the "Broken Isles" page. |
| 19:39.17 | Bagginsww | The main center of this appears on the following page: |
| 19:39.19 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Great_Sea_Expansion_Pack_Rumor |
| 19:39.21 | Bagginsww | As it says, "All effort and thanks to Masslen, who posted this post (not including the class ideas) on the world of warcraft forum site." |
| 19:39.24 | Bagginsww | And as it says on the *discussion* page attached to this: "This is a fan-made page, written by me on the Blizzard forums. These are just my ideas. -Masslen" |
| 19:39.27 | Bagginsww | (IMH |
| 19:40.36 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 19:40.37 | Bagginsww | ya, I don't know how we missed these changes |
| 19:40.41 | Bagginsww | probably the week I was busy studying for a a midterm :p |
| 19:40.44 | Bagginsww | ya look slike it late february |
| 19:40.49 | Kirkburn | You okay with sorting it Baggins? :) |
| 19:41.05 | Bagginsww | well, I say we lave in any WC3 related "locations" |
| 19:41.11 | Bagginsww | if you can get me a list of those |
| 19:41.22 | Bagginsww | we just need to mark that they are from WC# |
| 19:41.29 | Kirkburn | Didn't play it far enough |
| 19:41.32 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 19:41.38 | Kirkburn | I can see a few on the map there |
| 19:41.45 | Bagginsww | as for lands of mystery I can do that |
| 19:41.58 | Bagginsww | ya, that map helps |
| 19:42.08 | Bagginsww | I'm going to scan in the LoM map too |
| 19:42.22 | Bagginsww | which shows a better scale of Azeroth btw, including kul tiras |
| 19:42.23 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 19:43.02 | Bagginsww | I say we revert antyhing made by that person right now though |
| 19:43.14 | Bagginsww | we can try to sort out official locations later on |
| 19:43.25 | Bagginsww | and give that person a warning |
| 19:43.46 | Bagginsww | its people like him that gives rest of wowwiki a bad name :p |
| 19:44.06 | Bagginsww | that is people come in see those changes, don't know its a low level vandalism |
| 19:44.13 | Bagginsww | and assume we make up stuff |
| 19:44.23 | Kirkburn | Yeah, good idea |
| 19:44.30 | Kirkburn | Who is it? |
| 19:44.55 | Kirkburn | Whirlygig |
| 19:45.24 | Kirkburn | Wow, he did a massive amount :/ |
| 19:45.45 | Bagginsww | we might need to give him a month ban, and the warning at the same time :p |
| 19:46.00 | Bagginsww | until we sort everything out :p |
| 19:46.28 | Bagginsww | that's alot to have to clean up :p |
| 19:46.57 | Trae | I can feel you reaching deeper and deeper into my soul. |
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| 19:47.35 | Trae | So when is the next expansion pack due out? |
| 19:47.35 | Trae | heh |
| 19:47.46 | Bagginsww | blizzard hasn't even announced next one :p |
| 19:47.55 | Bagginsww | but at this rate we better get one every 2 years ;) |
| 19:48.05 | Bagginsww | they haven't even released all of this expansion's content though |
| 19:48.08 | Kirkburn | They're for one about every 12 months |
| 19:48.22 | Trae | I'm ready for Spaceship "mounts" and L100 |
| 19:48.23 | Bagginsww | oh then they might make black temple next expansion :p |
| 19:48.37 | Bagginsww | we aren't prepared :p |
| 19:48.43 | Trae | Bagginsww, haha |
| 19:48.58 | Bagginsww | forget content patches |
| 19:49.05 | Bagginsww | we'll sell you "expansions" |
| 19:50.08 | Trae | the next place will be "Not Quite so far out" land.... and it'll be inbetween the two worlds |
| 19:50.32 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:51.01 | Trae | I know it's blasphemy but I'd love to see Starcraft and WoW merge |
| 19:51.05 | Bagginsww | why not call it "other planes" and release some content for emerald planes, and elemental plane |
| 19:51.09 | Bagginsww | *emerald dream |
| 19:51.26 | Bagginsww | if a starcraft world is limited to a portal sure |
| 19:51.27 | Trae | weave the two stories together somehow |
| 19:51.28 | Trae | heh |
| 19:51.41 | Bagginsww | I just dont' want firebrats bleeding into azeroth :p |
| 19:51.54 | Bagginsww | we don't need Warhammer 20k |
| 19:52.01 | Trae | heh |
| 19:52.25 | Trae | but where do you go from here? Down under? |
| 19:52.27 | Bagginsww | diablo universe could be another portal LOL |
| 19:52.29 | Trae | "Digging mounts" |
| 19:53.02 | Bagginsww | turns out that Sanctuary is a world the Legion has been fighting over for millenia |
| 19:53.07 | Trae | instead of a portal, it'll be a big giant hole in the ground |
| 19:53.12 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:53.33 | Bagginsww | Diablo is an ally of the legion |
| 19:53.42 | Trae | meh, it's all over my head |
| 19:53.51 | Bagginsww | never played diablo? |
| 19:53.57 | Trae | nah |
| 19:54.06 | Bagginsww | its darker |
| 19:54.06 | Trae | WoW was my first venture into the genre |
| 19:54.14 | Bagginsww | diablo wasn't an MMO |
| 19:54.18 | Trae | I played Quake |
| 19:54.20 | Trae | heh |
| 19:54.31 | Bagginsww | although WoW has a few similar features |
| 19:54.40 | Bagginsww | Diablo was more action oriented |
| 19:54.49 | Trae | personally I always thought DnD and stuff was completely nerdy and stupic |
| 19:54.57 | Bagginsww | basically one character could wipe out 30 enemies onscreen at once LOL |
| 19:54.57 | Trae | and I used to make fun of my friends |
| 19:55.00 | Trae | for playing WoW |
| 19:55.08 | Trae | I tried it once |
| 19:55.09 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:55.14 | Trae | Now I'm more of a dork than they are |
| 19:55.22 | Trae | Deeper into my soul. |
| 19:55.32 | Bagginsww | I play WoW not for the RPG elements... its kind of weak in that respect |
| 19:55.34 | Bagginsww | more for the story |
| 19:55.35 | Trae | I started in October. |
| 19:55.42 | Bagginsww | japanese rpgs are infinitely better usually |
| 19:55.44 | Trae | I have no idea why I play it |
| 19:55.49 | Trae | seriously |
| 19:55.57 | Bagginsww | and If I get LOTR its for the story |
| 19:55.58 | Trae | I don't care about the story |
| 19:56.00 | Bagginsww | not really the rpg elements |
| 19:56.08 | Trae | I'm just addicted |
| 19:56.16 | Trae | xp xp xp |
| 19:56.18 | Trae | heh |
| 19:56.20 | Trae | must.... |
| 19:56.21 | Trae | get.... |
| 19:56.23 | Trae | more... |
| 19:56.24 | Trae | xp |
| 19:56.41 | Trae | thought I'd quit after my first 70 |
| 19:56.46 | Bagginsww | I hate the grind |
| 19:56.49 | Trae | I did quit even |
| 19:56.57 | Trae | I nuked my character and all alts |
| 19:57.01 | Trae | about 2 weeks ago |
| 19:57.09 | Trae | 5 hrs later, I'm begging a GM to restore |
| 19:57.13 | Bagginsww | I prefer in japanese rpgs that the grind is usually hidden udner the linear story |
| 19:57.29 | Bagginsww | leveling is pretty fast usually too |
| 19:57.51 | Trae | I don't speak Japanese |
| 19:57.52 | Trae | lol |
| 19:57.57 | Bagginsww | although its possible to get yourself stuck in a hole, where you can't progress cause a certain boss is more powerful than your current level :p |
| 19:58.06 | Bagginsww | and regular enemies are too hard to level on :p |
| 19:58.15 | Bagginsww | and going back to earlier areas isn't easy to do |
| 19:58.23 | Bagginsww | I don't either |
| 19:58.30 | Tepetkhet | I hate trying to figure out a palette. |
| 19:58.33 | Bagginsww | I'm talking of english translations |
| 19:58.41 | Bagginsww | english ports |
| 19:58.52 | Bagginsww | final fantasy style games basically |
| 20:03.13 | Kirkburn | Delete? http://www.wowwiki.com/Deep_Covenent |
| 20:05.38 | Kirkburn | Apart from that, everything is back to normality |
| 20:05.55 | Tepetkhet | hm |
| 20:07.40 | Kirkburn | I'll move it to Whirlygig's pages |
| 20:11.07 | Bagginsww | ya delete it |
| 20:11.12 | Bagginsww | oh ok |
| 20:11.19 | Bagginsww | ya if it shis fanfic page its fine |
| 20:11.23 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/South_Seas |
| 20:11.27 | Bagginsww | added map |
| 20:12.55 | Bagginsww | I should probalby break up the picture a bit and add elements to their related articles |
| 20:12.55 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Whirlygig |
| 20:17.35 | Kirkburn | Okay, I've moved the Northern, Southern Pandaria and Deep Covenent article to his userspace. Reverted changes made to existing articles and noted him |
| 20:17.41 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, spread the good news on WW :P |
| 20:17.59 | Bagginsww | K |
| 20:18.46 | bleetah | oooh, Bagginsww... I think it was Zeal who suggested I ask you... what killed Maim Blackhand? The Wiki is very vague |
| 20:19.00 | bleetah | ~lart zeal |
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| 20:19.43 | bleetah | or, to ask another way, when I asked yesterday what happened, there was some comment that both the blackhand brothers died, and WoW brought him back... how'd that work? |
| 20:19.51 | Bagginsww | I'm not sure actually. He was mentioned in a quest I think |
| 20:19.59 | Bagginsww | rpg might have something but I odn't have time to look it up |
| 20:20.06 | bleetah | heh, np |
| 20:20.26 | bleetah | it was a topic of barrens chat.. we reached the comclusion that Rend either saw a spirit guide.. or lodged a GM ticket ;) |
| 20:20.36 | Bagginsww | and "both" died if you count the named NPCs in TFT that shared their names |
| 20:20.51 | Bagginsww | but those were oultand chaos orcs |
| 20:22.11 | bleetah | rightio, thanks for the answer... I'm satisfied that the lore is vague on it ;) |
| 20:23.05 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 20:24.58 | Bagginsww | http://wowwiki.com/Mojo_Dark-Ale |
| 20:25.00 | Bagginsww | I saw we move that |
| 20:25.04 | Bagginsww | to "ranodm pandaren" |
| 20:25.09 | Bagginsww | *random |
| 20:25.24 | Bagginsww | I went back and confirmed that pandaren's involvement involves a random pandaren name |
| 20:25.39 | Kirkburn | WTF: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/05/the-weirdest-ps3-commercial-you-will-ever-see/ |
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| 20:29.15 | Skosiris | Hey |
| 20:30.56 | amro`afk | sup |
| 20:31.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tel%27Abim |
| 20:31.21 | Bagginsww | should we move that to Tel Abim |
| 20:31.25 | Skosiris | I need to add the Heroic drops to the site (an "Heroic drops" tab next to the "Drops" tab, for instance) but I'm not sure how heroic drops work. |
| 20:31.32 | Skosiris | I haven't had the chance to play WoW for a while heh |
| 20:31.53 | Skosiris | my main concern is: |
| 20:31.55 | Bagginsww | just cause banana's are called tel'abim |
| 20:32.09 | Bagginsww | doesn't mean the island is Tel'Abim |
| 20:32.20 | Skosiris | can the stuff that drops in Normal mode can also drop in Heroic, and vice-versa? |
| 20:32.24 | Bagginsww | and only map that refrences it called it Tel Abim |
| 20:32.36 | Bagginsww | heroic only drops in heroic |
| 20:32.39 | Bagginsww | as far as I know |
| 20:33.30 | Skosiris | ok so items that drop in Heroic mode can only drop in Heroic mode, what about items that drop in Normal mode. Is there a chance that this lower level gear drop in Heroic? |
| 20:34.09 | Bagginsww | no idea about normal items |
| 20:34.44 | Skosiris | Kirkburn, Zeal, ... could anyone clarify this please? :) |
| 20:35.24 | Kirkburn | Sorry, I don't know either |
| 20:35.28 | Kirkburn | sancus may know |
| 20:36.05 | Kirkburn | My feeling would be that it doesn't, and that you only get heroic gear in heroic dungeons (apart from trash drops maybe?) and normal in normal |
| 20:37.26 | Skosiris | ok |
| 20:37.50 | Skosiris | trying to get an answer from Sancus |
| 20:39.50 | bleetah | hey, what's the chance of having a 'live maintenance' page... but put it under 'fan fiction'? ;-) :-P |
| 20:40.02 | amro`afk | =P |
| 20:40.24 | Kirkburn | Skosiris, he's likely busy - don't always expect quick answers on here :P |
| 20:40.32 | sancus | jeez |
| 20:40.42 | sancus | stop pinging me jerks |
| 20:40.45 | Kirkburn | louise? |
| 20:41.07 | sancus | only some bosses drop extra heroic stuff |
| 20:41.12 | sancus | a lot of the drops are the same |
| 20:41.23 | sancus | plus they drop badges |
| 20:41.29 | sancus | which you can turn in for the heroic epix |
| 20:41.40 | Skosiris | ok |
| 20:41.54 | Kirkburn | You learn something new every day :) Ta sancus |
| 20:42.00 | Skosiris | thanks! |
| 20:42.02 | sancus | heroics are also where you get primal nether or wtf it's called, for some craftables |
| 20:42.35 | sancus | oh hm |
| 20:42.43 | sancus | guess those drop in normal also, but maybe increased frequency in heroic or something |
| 20:42.52 | sancus | I haven't done that much of the heroics so this is just what I've heard from guild mates |
| 20:43.57 | Kirkburn | I would ask my housemate, but he's out atm |
| 20:44.34 | Skosiris | aight |
| 20:44.48 | Skosiris | no biggy if it's not perfect the second it's released |
| 20:45.05 | Skosiris | people will send bug reports and we'll just improve our "junk data remover" |
| 20:45.51 | Skosiris | thanks for the input :) |
| 20:46.01 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 20:47.14 | sancus | people bitch about the fact that so many of the heroic drops are the same as normal a lot ;p |
| 20:51.28 | Bagginsww | I'm still trying to get my heroic keys :p |
| 20:51.42 | Bagginsww | I"m just short of getting Caverns of time, have resoiver already. |
| 20:51.52 | Bagginsww | about 2-3k from HH |
| 20:51.58 | Bagginsww | revered with HH |
| 20:52.09 | Bagginsww | and still have a long ways for tempest |
| 20:52.16 | Bagginsww | I have about 8k to go for achindoun |
| 20:52.54 | Bagginsww | well be happy skos that drops drop and you can run them more than once |
| 20:53.03 | Bagginsww | if it dropped epics frequenly they'd have week long timers :p |
| 20:53.07 | Bagginsww | like raids |
| 20:53.31 | Skosiris | 1 heroic run per instance per day, right? |
| 20:53.39 | Bagginsww | something like that I think |
| 20:53.45 | Bagginsww | not sure though |
| 20:54.01 | Skosiris | that's what I've read on WoWWiki :) |
| 20:54.20 | Bagginsww | I'll probably know more once I take the time to run the heroics |
| 20:54.30 | Bagginsww | but kind of want to get my keys out of the way first :p |
| 20:54.49 | Bagginsww | granted getting epics would be worth it heh |
| 20:55.09 | Bagginsww | but I need the keys to get access to later 25 man content |
| 20:55.24 | Bagginsww | which the guild wants us to get prepped for |
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| 20:56.48 | afterbang | hi |
| 20:56.56 | Gryphen | heya |
| 20:59.48 | afterbang | okay... so this is kind of embarassing... im only 10 years old and i forgot the last step in tying my shoes, i remember loop, swoop, but whats the last one? |
| 21:01.04 | equiraptor | I never tie my shoes. |
| 21:01.06 | bleetah | 'throw them away and wear sandals or slipons' |
| 21:01.07 | equiraptor | Velcro FTW! |
| 21:01.15 | bleetah | equiraptor also speaks much truth |
| 21:01.25 | Bagginsww | yyou can't remember how to tie shoes but you can do mirc? |
| 21:01.31 | Skosiris | you don't need shows if you use Wowhead |
| 21:01.35 | Skosiris | **shoes |
| 21:01.43 | afterbang | anyone remember the last step, cause i cant tie them and i keep faceplanting into things |
| 21:01.57 | Bagginsww | comedy gold |
| 21:02.10 | bleetah | real men wear Blundstone Boots |
| 21:02.39 | afterbang | what about blackened defias boots |
| 21:02.40 | bleetah | (they're made in kids sizes too, perfect for those who can't remember how to tie their shoes) :-P |
| 21:02.52 | bleetah | nah, they're one size fits all |
| 21:02.55 | Bagginsww | this just in in order ot make WoW more realistic, Blizzard will impliment shoe tieing in the next patch. If you don't do it right you will have a chance to trip during fights. |
| 21:02.55 | bleetah | strangely enough |
| 21:03.28 | bleetah | Bagginsww: that'd be pretty amusing |
| 21:03.34 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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| 21:03.58 | bleetah | new PvP spell, avail to all stealth race/classes 'tie opponent's laces together' |
| 21:04.06 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:04.10 | equiraptor | Haha |
| 21:04.19 | Bagginsww | also includes "hot foot" |
| 21:04.25 | Tepetkhet | hm |
| 21:04.30 | Bagginsww | stick a match in their shoe |
| 21:04.49 | Bagginsww | old holywood gag |
| 21:04.49 | Tepetkhet | So with some horrible mix of css and tables on a non-fixed-width site... |
| 21:05.54 | Tepetkhet | I'm wondering if it's hard to set a td with a fixed width and have another td over with like a 100% |
| 21:06.00 | Tepetkhet | er, if it's wrong/bad/broken |
| 21:09.48 | amro`afk | Tepetkhet: I found another itemstats script if you're interested |
| 21:09.55 | Bagginsww | explosive woopie cushion... Stick a woopie cushion on any chair. If a character sits in it, a loud fart sound is made that everyone can hear in the zone, and the poor victim blows up. |
| 21:10.01 | Tepetkhet | amro`afk: Oh? |
| 21:10.10 | amro`afk | hold on, let me dig up the link |
| 21:10.25 | Bagginsww | the victim's name is then broadcasted across the zone chat |
| 21:10.27 | Tepetkhet | The one I have does work... |
| 21:12.24 | bleetah | Bagginsww: and an AoE debuff 'you find it difficult to inhale air' should be applied |
| 21:12.33 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:12.48 | Bagginsww | but fatal gags would be funny |
| 21:12.55 | Bagginsww | too |
| 21:13.09 | amro`afk | Tepetkhet: couldn't find it anyway, must be in my windows ff's history |
| 21:13.35 | Tepetkhet | ah |
| 21:14.39 | Bagginsww | Oh kirk you might find this interesting |
| 21:14.48 | Bagginsww | apparently Zandalar trolls are their own type of troll |
| 21:14.58 | Bagginsww | neither jungle, or island trolls |
| 21:15.12 | Bagginsww | they are the type of trolls from which all trolls originate from |
| 21:15.29 | Bagginsww | there was some arguement about it before as I recall. |
| 21:19.03 | afterbang | GUYS !!!!! ! THE LAST STEP IS PULL, LOOP, SWOOP, PULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:19.20 | afterbang | NO MORE FACEPLANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:20.11 | Bagginsww | I never learned how to tie shoes that way... |
| 21:20.15 | Kirkburn | I thought it was Pull, loop, swoop, hurl :( |
| 21:21.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Channel_Islands |
| 21:21.34 | Bagginsww | bet those won't even get a mention in the warcraft II novel |
| 21:21.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cross_Island |
| 21:21.48 | Bagginsww | or that |
| 21:23.43 | Bagginsww | for all we know the book might even follow the game much at all :P. Although I can only hope the author took the time to play through the campaigns :P |
| 21:26.45 | Kirkburn | The Channel Islands? I didn't realise Jersey and Guernsey were in Warcraft :P |
| 21:27.08 | Kirkburn | (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands) |
| 21:28.39 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:29.29 | Bagginsww | yep the warcraft "Channel Islands" are mentioned in the first acts of both horde and alliance campaigns. |
| 21:29.46 | Bagginsww | there is some interweaving betweent the acts too btw |
| 21:30.08 | Bagginsww | horde destroy one of the towns from their base on Zul'dare |
| 21:30.15 | Bagginsww | and its mentioned it was destroyed in the alliance campaign |
| 21:30.41 | Bagginsww | and one of the alliance missions is to destroy the zul'dare base |
| 21:30.46 | Bagginsww | and that's mentioned in the horde campaign |
| 21:31.03 | Bagginsww | they end up moving to another location to set up an attack cause they lost their zul'dare base |
| 21:32.41 | Kirkburn | Interesting stuff |
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| 22:09.08 | Skosiris | *Site slow alert!* |
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| 22:26.27 | Tepetkhet | bye |
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| 22:56.51 | Skyfire | hey all |
| 22:57.40 | Kirkburn | Hulloo |
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| 23:03.45 | Skyfire | kirk... |
| 23:03.55 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Smites_cleaver |
| 23:03.59 | Skyfire | XD |
| 23:04.07 | Skyfire | wtf? |
| 23:04.33 | Skyfire | should prolly be deleted ;( |
| 23:04.41 | Skyfire | a bit op, tbh |
| 23:04.56 | Kirkburn | Deleted again |
| 23:08.43 | Skyfire | ok...h ave you ever seen "One-handed sword" on any item: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9401 |
| 23:09.04 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 23:09.16 | Skyfire | thott doesn't do that :/ |
| 23:13.29 | Skyfire | Skosiris, you here? |
| 23:23.53 | Skosiris | dang |
| 23:24.16 | Skosiris | I didn't notice this bug when I messed up with the tooltip generator |
| 23:24.18 | Skosiris | thanks |
| 23:24.32 | Skosiris | I'll fix it right away |
| 23:26.09 | Skyfire | welcome :] |
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