| 00:00.03 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash#Style_Edits sad face |
| 00:00.25 | Hobinheim | he's being a negative nancy too... |
| 00:01.10 | Hobinheim | his edits have been unnecessarily flamey as well |
| 00:02.03 | Hobinheim | he left a flame on my user page... *sigh* |
| 00:02.17 | Kirkburn | So I see |
| 00:02.26 | Kirkburn | You're the one in the right anyway |
| 00:04.05 | Hobinheim | i can totally see his point |
| 00:04.12 | Hobinheim | but like... we're not eqiupped to deal with it right now |
| 00:05.10 | Kirkburn | Sec |
| 00:05.13 | Kirkburn | Writign a response |
| 00:05.41 | Hobinheim | oh noes |
| 00:06.23 | Hobinheim | are we lower casing classes? |
| 00:06.24 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash#Style_Edits |
| 00:06.32 | Hobinheim | i know we're not totally consistent but i think we should |
| 00:06.40 | Kirkburn | No there's special ways |
| 00:06.50 | Kirkburn | If you're talking about the class or a player, capitalise |
| 00:07.07 | Kirkburn | If you're talking about warlocks (in-universe, group), then lower case |
| 00:07.20 | Hobinheim | =/ |
| 00:07.29 | Kirkburn | It's proper noun versus description |
| 00:07.32 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 00:07.46 | Hobinheim | i was bouncing back and forth between what you just said and a global lowercase |
| 00:07.56 | Hobinheim | basically a measure of how immersed i was feeling at the time |
| 00:08.00 | Hobinheim | cuz the quests always lower case |
| 00:08.14 | Kirkburn | Ah, that's cause they're not referring to the player, they're in-universe |
| 00:08.45 | Kirkburn | Confusing, eh |
| 00:09.07 | Hobinheim | no i know exactly what you mean |
| 00:09.16 | Kirkburn | I play a Warlock, but the NPCs see me as a warlock =) |
| 00:09.17 | Hobinheim | damn you blizzard inconsistency! |
| 00:09.37 | Kirkburn | How can it best be said, i wonder |
| 00:09.47 | Kirkburn | If it's referring to the WoW Class, then capitalise |
| 00:10.24 | Kirkburn | If it's a lore article, lowercase |
| 00:11.31 | Hobinheim | if the sentence is referring to the player class, such as Warlocks use Death Coil, then capitalize |
| 00:11.50 | Hobinheim | otherwise, when talking about the general concept or occupation or role, lowercase |
| 00:11.53 | Hobinheim | warlocks are scary |
| 00:13.14 | Hobinheim | so Kirkburn, thoughts on a new todo portal? |
| 00:15.18 | Kirkburn | We need one? |
| 00:15.24 | Hobinheim | i think so |
| 00:15.31 | Hobinheim | something more expansive, nicer looking, and obvious |
| 00:15.39 | Hobinheim | one stop shopping for "duhhh what do i do or how could i contribute" |
| 00:15.50 | Kirkburn | Part of the community portal would be sensible |
| 00:15.56 | Hobinheim | i'm just unsatisfied with a little box in the cp |
| 00:16.33 | Kirkburn | The CP needs redoing, so I would suggest merging the two in a new one |
| 00:17.16 | sancus | reading the blood elf article and talk page makes me want to pretty much stab everyone on the article edit list. |
| 00:17.47 | sancus | Kirkburn: I promise not to stab you so much that it impedes your add-on creating abilities |
| 00:17.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:18.42 | Kirkburn | What's wrong with it? |
| 00:18.55 | sancus | this excessive talk about 'young adults' and 'winning wsg/ab' makes me fucking boggle |
| 00:19.10 | sancus | does anyone really believe that anyone relevant CARES about wsg/ab win rates |
| 00:19.11 | Kirkburn | Oh god, I know |
| 00:19.21 | sancus | or that some fucking moron honestly believes that OLD PEOPLE win wsg/ab more? |
| 00:19.48 | Hobinheim | well... |
| 00:19.49 | sancus | what does 'young adult' even mean? |
| 00:19.51 | Hobinheim | there was this one night |
| 00:19.54 | Hobinheim | where it was after 10pm |
| 00:19.57 | Hobinheim | and i started winning |
| 00:20.01 | Hobinheim | so... unfortunately... |
| 00:20.06 | Hobinheim | i can't say i totally disagree =( |
| 00:20.14 | sancus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_adult |
| 00:20.16 | sancus | ahahahahahahah |
| 00:20.21 | Kirkburn | Argh, what an idiotic image: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Azeroth_elf_male_lineup_labelled.jpg |
| 00:20.23 | sancus | pick your definition, huh |
| 00:20.47 | Hobinheim | oo niceimage |
| 00:20.56 | Kirkburn | Both images are specifically posed to alter the effect |
| 00:20.58 | Hobinheim | looks like the nelfs been takin the roids |
| 00:21.06 | Kirkburn | One has a cloak extending his width |
| 00:21.10 | Kirkburn | The other is sticking his chest out! |
| 00:21.11 | Hobinheim | and the belfs are definitely homosexuals.. |
| 00:22.05 | sancus | the final model looks like a pretty big improvement to me heh |
| 00:22.24 | sancus | 'original blood elf' has the most terrible bug eyes and featureless face |
| 00:22.33 | vlad_ | night elves look stupid |
| 00:22.38 | sancus | that goes without saying |
| 00:22.39 | Hobinheim | =) |
| 00:22.44 | vlad_ | gorilla arms |
| 00:22.48 | Hobinheim | they're so over the top |
| 00:22.55 | Hobinheim | were there ever night elf males? |
| 00:22.56 | Hobinheim | ever? |
| 00:22.59 | Hobinheim | in wc3? |
| 00:23.09 | Hobinheim | are druids of the night elf species? |
| 00:23.12 | sancus | um yes |
| 00:23.18 | sancus | pretty sure they are, yes :p |
| 00:23.20 | Hobinheim | all i remember is the potm and archers |
| 00:23.23 | Hobinheim | and huntresses |
| 00:23.29 | Hobinheim | and that druids were... beary |
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| 00:24.11 | Kirkburn | Another d/c |
| 00:24.38 | Hobinheim | i'm sure Tekkub's fave unit in wc3 was the druid of the claw, teeehee |
| 00:24.42 | sancus | actually I dont want to delete the article |
| 00:24.50 | Hobinheim | you want to soul fire it |
| 00:24.53 | Hobinheim | with curse of the elements |
| 00:24.53 | Tekkub | PANDA! |
| 00:25.02 | Hobinheim | the pandaren? |
| 00:25.07 | sancus | I want to scrawl on it in giant letters "NO ONE CARES ABOUT OBSOLETE IRRELEVANT BATTLEGROUND WIN RATES" |
| 00:25.09 | Hobinheim | what was his name... pandaren brewmaster |
| 00:25.11 | Tekkub | I'd gime 'im one |
| 00:25.23 | Hobinheim | sancus, i dunno, horde have been sucking hard core when i play |
| 00:25.46 | sancus | I especially like how it was flagged for fact checking |
| 00:25.51 | sancus | good luck fact checking anything on that page |
| 00:26.34 | sancus | my guess would be any statement on the entire page that isn't something a CM said is bullshit and unverifiable |
| 00:27.41 | sancus | not being able to communicate with the opposing faction decreases tension, also, it doesn't increase it :/ |
| 00:28.04 | Hobinheim | fact checking... *sigh* |
| 00:28.36 | sancus | I think I'm going to stop reading this now and get back to work, because it only increases my rage against the stupidity of some people who play WoW. |
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| 00:28.59 | Kirkburn | Better? http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Community_portal :P |
| 00:30.08 | Hobinheim | sancus, i think wow should be moderated like the goon forums |
| 00:30.11 | Hobinheim | WITH AN IRON FIST |
| 00:30.15 | Hobinheim | STUPIDITY COSTS MONEY |
| 00:30.37 | Hobinheim | lol u nuked collabs |
| 00:30.49 | nemppu | dear god no |
| 00:30.54 | sancus | I wish |
| 00:30.59 | Hobinheim | ugh... |
| 00:31.06 | sancus | the wow forums have already descended far past usability into UTTER TRASH |
| 00:31.17 | sancus | the only reason I read them anymore is for really stupid Mage forum posts |
| 00:31.20 | sancus | that I can flame |
| 00:31.26 | sancus | I pretty much do not post anything that isn't a flame anymore |
| 00:31.30 | sancus | haven't in like over a year! |
| 00:31.36 | Hobinheim | seriously |
| 00:31.41 | sancus | I sure posted a lot of flames on the beta boards, too. |
| 00:31.41 | Hobinheim | it's what keeps somehting awful in line |
| 00:31.45 | Hobinheim | heavily moderated |
| 00:31.48 | Hobinheim | and costs money |
| 00:31.55 | Hobinheim | i believe that to be the solution to nearly any troll |
| 00:31.57 | Hobinheim | except rich ones |
| 00:31.59 | sancus | the alpha boards weren't /that bad/ |
| 00:32.16 | sancus | mostly due to volume |
| 00:32.29 | Hobinheim | i can't believe some of the shit blizzard doesn't mod down |
| 00:32.32 | sancus | blizzard's friends and family method of picking testers is possibly the worst, most counterproductive concept I've ever heard of |
| 00:32.45 | Hobinheim | what else should it be? |
| 00:33.05 | sancus | Well it's fine to add your F&F, but for them to be the primary testers for the vast majority of the testing cycle is obscene |
| 00:33.11 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 00:33.17 | vlad_ | F&F in is great; F&F only is stupid |
| 00:33.24 | sancus | If it wasn't for the fact that Furor added a huge amount of competent players from the community |
| 00:33.30 | sancus | I dunno that they would have gotten any good testing at all |
| 00:34.20 | Kirkburn | Un'goro is deserted :P |
| 00:34.55 | Kirkburn | lol, I just killed someone :D |
| 00:35.01 | sancus | so much for deserted? |
| 00:35.15 | Kirkburn | heh, apparently not =) |
| 00:35.25 | Kirkburn | silly hordie had PvP on |
| 00:35.36 | Kirkburn | Sent his treants against me \o/ |
| 00:35.47 | sancus | ahahaha |
| 00:36.00 | sancus | that reminds me of arena I did with a hunter and druid in alpha |
| 00:36.05 | sancus | I was a frost mage |
| 00:36.09 | sancus | we literally zerged people down with pets |
| 00:36.13 | Hobinheim | i can't believe you're chatting and playing at the same time |
| 00:36.14 | Hobinheim | dual monitors? |
| 00:36.15 | Kirkburn | He thought he could get away in cat form, yay for my felguard |
| 00:36.17 | Hobinheim | and editing... |
| 00:36.19 | Kirkburn | Dual PCs |
| 00:36.23 | Hobinheim | dual nerd |
| 00:36.23 | sancus | equipped barov trinket |
| 00:36.24 | Hobinheim | =) |
| 00:36.25 | sancus | with treants |
| 00:36.27 | sancus | water elemental |
| 00:36.28 | sancus | and hunter pet |
| 00:36.33 | sancus | all on the opposing healer |
| 00:36.34 | sancus | was hilarious |
| 00:36.52 | Kirkburn | Aww, he's not respawning :P |
| 00:37.24 | Kirkburn | I had to get a laptop in Italy, and I have a desktop from before |
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| 00:39.14 | Kirkburn | I thought he'd got away! |
| 00:39.16 | Kirkburn | I just got disconnected |
| 00:39.24 | Kirkburn | Logged back in, his body is next to me =) |
| 00:39.37 | Kirkburn | I'm such a asshole |
| 00:39.57 | Kirkburn | is Baron Charr hard? |
| 00:40.41 | MatthewS | not really |
| 00:41.01 | Kirkburn | Bah, won't risk it, am alone and only 61 |
| 00:41.29 | MatthewS | yeah, i usually go with another for the elemental bosses |
| 00:41.36 | Kirkburn | I have no idea why I'm here tbh |
| 00:41.52 | Kirkburn | I just have this obsession with doing lots of quests |
| 00:42.22 | Kirkburn | I spent about 10 hours doing starting quests before release :/ |
| 00:42.31 | MatthewS | you're one more person not clogging up hellfire peninsula. thanks :) |
| 00:43.11 | Kirkburn | heehee |
| 00:43.27 | Kirkburn | Don't worry, I'll be there soon enough |
| 00:43.30 | Hobinheim | quest itis |
| 00:43.33 | Hobinheim | combined with alt itis |
| 00:43.34 | Kirkburn | Crud I wanted to go to Tanaris |
| 00:43.43 | Hobinheim | PERMANENT AFFLICTION |
| 00:43.43 | MatthewS | i jumped straight into the marsh when i got into tbc, then came back to do some hellfire stuff, but it's an overcamped zone right now |
| 00:43.48 | Hobinheim | say, Kirkburn, what spec are you |
| 00:43.58 | MatthewS | terrakar/whatever was pretty though |
| 00:44.47 | Kirkburn | Demonology |
| 00:44.47 | Kirkburn | With 6 in affliction |
| 00:44.53 | Kirkburn | Terokkar |
| 00:44.57 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 00:45.15 | Kirkburn | All the zones are beautiful - not sure what I liked most |
| 00:45.23 | Kirkburn | Nagrand is cool |
| 00:45.35 | Kirkburn | Actually, not a big fan of Shadowmoon, too dark |
| 00:46.03 | Kirkburn | Here's hoping I stopped flying |
| 00:46.34 | Hobinheim | six? |
| 00:46.37 | Kirkburn | I disconnected myself to stop myself flying |
| 00:46.38 | Hobinheim | what the christ odd number is that? |
| 00:46.41 | Hobinheim | imp corr? |
| 00:46.47 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 00:46.48 | Hobinheim | just put the other point back into demonology =) |
| 00:46.56 | Kirkburn | I've got every point in DM I want |
| 00:47.00 | Hobinheim | oh |
| 00:47.01 | Hobinheim | =( |
| 00:47.03 | Hobinheim | 41? |
| 00:47.08 | Kirkburn | Not sure |
| 00:47.17 | Kirkburn | Trying to log in atm, not having much luck |
| 00:47.26 | Hobinheim | it's hard to hit all the pets and still get aegis at just 41 |
| 00:47.34 | Hobinheim | although some goons say the pets aren't worth it |
| 00:47.38 | Hobinheim | how can they say that about my babies! =( |
| 00:47.42 | Kirkburn | I keep appearing off the edge of the world, and then get logged out again |
| 00:47.52 | Hobinheim | log into another char and ask for a gm unstuck |
| 00:48.00 | Hobinheim | they'll probably port you to the barrens, haha |
| 00:48.26 | Kirkburn | I *think* I might still be flying |
| 00:48.47 | Kirkburn | Dammit |
| 00:48.53 | Kirkburn | I missed Tanaris |
| 00:49.03 | Kirkburn | nvm |
| 00:49.15 | Kirkburn | I've always been a pet person, can't imagine going without |
| 00:49.23 | Kirkburn | 46 in demo |
| 00:49.28 | Hobinheim | i wonder if flying mounts are as dumb as swimming |
| 00:49.33 | Hobinheim | or how they figured out the nav for it |
| 00:49.37 | Hobinheim | you did beta, how was it? |
| 00:49.39 | Kirkburn | I've got every felguard-helping talent |
| 00:49.47 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 00:49.50 | Hobinheim | how about hunter? |
| 00:49.53 | Kirkburn | The flying mounts were just amazing |
| 00:50.01 | Hobinheim | when i think hunter, i think of the hunter stigma, and then how boring my pet will be |
| 00:50.20 | sancus | that hunters are dumb jerks who just afk autoshot through everything? |
| 00:50.23 | Kirkburn | I've done a hunter to 20, but then just ... stopped, I guess |
| 00:50.25 | sancus | yeah, yeah, that's pretty much true. |
| 00:50.27 | Hobinheim | HUNTAR WEAPON |
| 00:50.45 | sancus | if you pick a hunter it basically makes you a bad person. |
| 00:50.47 | Hobinheim | it's like... what warlock would be if you took away the magical variety |
| 00:50.52 | Hobinheim | sancus, right |
| 00:51.13 | Hobinheim | although i still think mages and locks should be eligable for the thunderfury =( |
| 00:51.20 | Hobinheim | cuz technically the item has no restrictions |
| 00:51.25 | Hobinheim | but the bindings needed to produce the item do |
| 00:51.27 | Hobinheim | so... f that |
| 00:51.33 | Hobinheim | f your mother, blizzard |
| 00:53.12 | sancus | why would a mage or lock want thunderfury |
| 00:53.58 | Kirkburn | Glad that's over, now back to Shattrath :) |
| 00:54.15 | Kirkburn | Cause it looks cool ^^ |
| 00:54.31 | sancus | atiesh looks way cooler |
| 00:54.41 | Kirkburn | And is a harder to get :) |
| 00:54.50 | sancus | yes |
| 00:55.12 | sancus | but it's actually good ;p |
| 00:55.15 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:55.20 | Hobinheim | because we can use swords |
| 00:55.26 | sancus | so |
| 00:55.32 | sancus | shaman can use staves and they don't get an atiesh |
| 00:55.37 | Hobinheim | THEY SHOULD THEN! |
| 00:55.50 | Hobinheim | but i'm not a shaman cheerleader so i could careless |
| 00:55.58 | sancus | I actually pretty strongly dislike the whole concept of the legendaries |
| 00:56.04 | sancus | but at least atiesh is somewhat less objectionable than thunderfury |
| 00:56.05 | Hobinheim | artificats? |
| 00:56.15 | Hobinheim | why are you against it? |
| 00:56.28 | Hobinheim | cuz it produces a phenomenon greater than DA PURPZ? |
| 00:56.41 | Hobinheim | (i actually heard someone say da purpz in real life and i wanted to punch him) |
| 00:56.47 | sancus | no, the idea that you have a powerful item that is arbitrarily 'hard' to get where 'hard' actually just means time consuming/incredibly lucky |
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| 00:57.02 | Hobinheim | season pass to molton core! |
| 00:57.21 | sancus | atiesh isn't quite as bad because it's time consuming but not really about luck at all |
| 00:57.28 | sancus | thunderfury is a fucking abomination, though |
| 00:57.33 | sancus | as it's 0 skill and all luck |
| 00:58.26 | Hobinheim | what is it, get two rare bindings and then grind the resource list? |
| 00:58.37 | sancus | most people have the resources before they get the bindings |
| 00:58.42 | sancus | but yes, the bindings are bullshit |
| 00:58.59 | Hobinheim | that they're rare squared? |
| 00:59.03 | sancus | yep |
| 00:59.08 | sancus | 'rarity' is dumb |
| 00:59.16 | Hobinheim | i've never done end game. does getting the bindings essentially guarantee you the thunderfury? |
| 00:59.19 | sancus | yes |
| 00:59.21 | Hobinheim | ic. |
| 00:59.29 | Hobinheim | so getting one binding is like FUCK WHERE IS THE OTHER |
| 00:59.32 | sancus | thunderaan is not hard, he's trivial |
| 00:59.52 | sancus | at least to complete atiesh you have to kill kelthuzad and c'thun which are like... kindasorta skill requiring barriers |
| 01:00.15 | sancus | Though I'd personally prefer if you had to kill something like pre-nerfed ouro that everyone believed was impossible :) |
| 01:01.07 | Kirkburn | I'm glad Blizz have moved away from luck drops |
| 01:01.24 | sancus | atiesh isn't really good enough to justify the effort it would require to kill pre-nerf ouro or osmething of that difficulty level, though |
| 01:02.16 | sancus | thunderfury was the best legendary and I doubt we'll ever see anything that good again |
| 01:02.36 | sancus | because they probably don't want another legendary that's a fundamental near requirement for raid content |
| 01:02.37 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, Crash is just being silly now |
| 01:06.34 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash#Style_Edits |
| 01:08.31 | Hobinheim | wouldn't the barrier of entry for the thunder fury be a lot lower now since we can break 60? |
| 01:08.35 | Hobinheim | i.e. making that dungeon trivial |
| 01:08.45 | Hobinheim | compounded with the fact that it might one day be able to be run in heroic omde |
| 01:09.02 | Hobinheim | unless they ninja edit the loot tables |
| 01:09.03 | Hobinheim | w/e |
| 01:09.14 | Hobinheim | and i'm curious as to what they have their beepers set up for |
| 01:09.19 | Hobinheim | like that one leaked legendary |
| 01:09.27 | Hobinheim | or they know exactly who and when someone kills saph/kel |
| 01:10.45 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, mind if I ask your age? |
| 01:11.04 | Kirkburn | I'm just humoured that Crash described us as "kids" |
| 01:11.39 | Hobinheim | wtf i'm on facebook |
| 01:11.44 | Hobinheim | i'm like the same age as you |
| 01:11.50 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, of course |
| 01:11.55 | Kirkburn | I barely visit there any more :P |
| 01:11.57 | Hobinheim | consequently, i think everyone is the same age as us |
| 01:12.02 | Hobinheim | which... is certainly false |
| 01:12.10 | Hobinheim | like when i see older goons or older warcraft players i'm like what the christ |
| 01:12.21 | sancus | no the barrier of entry for thunderfury is higher |
| 01:12.29 | Hobinheim | why? |
| 01:12.32 | Kirkburn | ragestorm is a good example, i guess |
| 01:12.33 | sancus | because you have to convince a bunch of people to do molten core |
| 01:12.36 | Hobinheim | heh |
| 01:12.38 | sancus | which is a complete and UTTER waste of time for them |
| 01:12.44 | sancus | they derive 0 benefit from it |
| 01:12.46 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, you know how old ragestorm is? |
| 01:12.54 | Kirkburn | I think in his 40s |
| 01:12.59 | Hobinheim | sancus, people will always be curious and have quest itis |
| 01:13.03 | Hobinheim | or may not purchse TBC |
| 01:13.10 | sancus | you don't get a thunderfury from being curious and having quest itis |
| 01:13.18 | sancus | you get a thunderfury from grinding molten core for a year until the shit drops |
| 01:13.28 | Hobinheim | sancus, lots and LOTS of different, curious noobs =) |
| 01:13.34 | sancus | nope |
| 01:13.39 | sancus | those people will do it once or twice and then stop |
| 01:13.50 | sancus | a few might get lucky, ofc, its always possible especially with the way thunderfury works |
| 01:13.55 | sancus | but overall there will be a lot fewer of them appearing now |
| 01:14.05 | sancus | not that it matters since there's already 9438793457943583495 of the things around |
| 01:14.14 | sancus | and they'll probably be obsoleted by the first set of 25-mans anyway |
| 01:14.28 | Hobinheim | do people already know what new epic gear looks like? |
| 01:14.32 | Hobinheim | or did they block those out of beta? |
| 01:14.34 | sancus | er, yes |
| 01:14.37 | sancus | no |
| 01:14.50 | sancus | t4 and t5 are both known |
| 01:14.52 | Hobinheim | so artificats and legendaries? |
| 01:15.03 | sancus | there are no known legendaries or artifacts in burning crusade |
| 01:15.16 | sancus | I can guarantee there won't be any artifacts :p |
| 01:15.24 | sancus | there might be a legendary in the first set of 25-mans, but we didnt get to see that |
| 01:18.32 | sancus | and ofc we know full details on all the karazhan loot and its all epic |
| 01:18.38 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, i'm waiting for crash to say one more thing |
| 01:18.42 | Hobinheim | just so i can ban him |
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| 01:19.03 | Hobinheim | if this was sa, he would have already been probated for mod sass |
| 01:20.33 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 01:21.55 | sancus | "HOW TO KNOW WHEN YOU BETA TESTERS SUCK" |
| 01:21.56 | sancus | example #1 |
| 01:21.56 | sancus | Combat pets feels like fratricide at times: not playing a lore-master at the moment, but this came to mind when reading the 'i want a kitty' thread... |
| 01:21.56 | sancus | does anyone else have bad feelings when their pet bear is helping them kill other bears? i think this would be extremely traumatic to the pet in question. it just feels _wrong_. i don't know what could be done to adjust this, it just bothers me. |
| 01:21.58 | sancus | ahahahahahah |
| 01:22.30 | Thrae | sancus: What's worse is when they drop 'bear meat' and you feed it to your pet to increase their 'happiness'.... |
| 01:23.10 | sancus | no, I think it's hilarious that someone would object to that |
| 01:23.13 | sancus | bears kill bears all the time :P |
| 01:23.17 | Hobinheim | MEKANICS! |
| 01:23.22 | Hobinheim | CRITS YOU FOR LOLZ |
| 01:23.23 | sancus | and probably eat them. |
| 01:23.42 | sancus | People are so fucking stupid and don't know how to seperate their anthropomorphist idiocy from reality. |
| 01:23.59 | Thrae | sancus: It's natural when a bear kills another bear in the wild, it's murder when you train a bear to kill another bear. |
| 01:24.20 | sancus | did you actually just say that? |
| 01:24.27 | sancus | I hope you're being sarcastic. |
| 01:27.17 | Hobinheim | Bear.Aggressive() = Winnar! |
| 01:29.18 | Hobinheim | staying in the city, working late... worst idea ever |
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| 01:30.24 | cchristianDraco | hmm |
| 01:30.33 | Kirkburn | I totally forgot to train my 61 spells :/ |
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| 01:31.45 | Kirkburn | varh spam! |
| 01:31.48 | Kirkburn | *Varg |
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| 01:32.13 | Kirkburn | I want to mark him as a bot ;) |
| 01:32.16 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 01:32.17 | Hobinheim | LOL |
| 01:32.21 | Hobinheim | yeah he's aggressive |
| 01:32.26 | Hobinheim | i'm not loading rightr n-w 9 |
| 01:32.49 | Hobinheim | sancus, coudl you tell us details about what wowwiki is hosted on? |
| 01:32.51 | Hobinheim | or where it is? |
| 01:33.03 | Hobinheim | like... is it bound to a hosting service? or is it in someone's basement? |
| 01:33.19 | Hobinheim | and why isn't it loading right now... =( |
| 01:33.22 | Bagginsww | world server down :p |
| 01:33.31 | sancus | loads for me |
| 01:33.38 | Kirkburn | Works here too =) |
| 01:33.44 | Hobinheim | gah |
| 01:34.03 | sancus | It's on a dual core pentium with 4GB of RAM at a colo ISP in Toronto |
| 01:34.08 | Hobinheim | hah it loads at home |
| 01:34.17 | sancus | and some sort of RAID disk setup |
| 01:34.21 | sancus | mirrored |
| 01:34.21 | Hobinheim | colo.... colated escapes me... |
| 01:34.29 | Hobinheim | *colocated |
| 01:35.02 | Hobinheim | oh well neat |
| 01:35.12 | Hobinheim | i thought it was some joe schmoe's dyndns box =( |
| 01:35.28 | Bagginsww | well gorganash is down LOL |
| 01:36.17 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, maybe that was a varg bot |
| 01:36.24 | Hobinheim | assisted editing |
| 01:37.03 | Thrae | s/debug it/debug it in-game/ |
| 01:37.31 | Thrae | "varg bot"? |
| 01:37.48 | Thrae | ~varg |
| 01:37.54 | Thrae | VAAAAAAAAAARG!!!! |
| 01:38.52 | Kirkburn | ~varg |
| 01:38.54 | infobot | VAAAAAAAARRRGG!!! |
| 01:39.05 | Hobinheim | :shakefist: |
| 01:40.19 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, would you be offended if wikipedia was written in american englihs? |
| 01:40.43 | Kirkburn | wikipedia? |
| 01:41.05 | Kirkburn | Instead of wikipaedia? :P |
| 01:42.44 | Hobinheim | is that how you spell encyclopaedia? |
| 01:42.55 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 01:42.58 | Hobinheim | ... |
| 01:43.23 | Hobinheim | i'm wondering just how ignorant it is of me to expect everything to be american english |
| 01:43.34 | Hobinheim | british english outnumbers american english, so they say |
| 01:43.59 | Kirkburn | Losely, yes, probably |
| 01:44.27 | Kirkburn | You have India and places like that |
| 01:47.40 | Hobinheim | the colocation article in wikipedia was colocation *centre* |
| 01:47.42 | Hobinheim | ~varg |
| 01:47.44 | infobot | VAAAAAAAAAARG!!!! |
| 01:47.48 | Hobinheim | :shakefist: |
| 01:48.07 | Kirkburn | weirdo |
| 01:48.42 | Thrae | Well that's what a "varg bot" sounded like to me. |
| 02:04.18 | Kirkburn | zomg, I'm PvP toggled |
| 02:10.23 | Kirkburn | Killing so many Kailiri - no feathers! |
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| 02:24.31 | Kirkburn | Damn PC has started doing its tidying :/ |
| 02:44.16 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash#Style_Edits |
| 02:46.25 | Kirkburn | Somehow I just knew he was gonna bring up the discrimination card |
| 03:20.57 | Kirkburn | bloody fel reaver |
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| 03:33.25 | Tusva | Ooh, neat. |
| 03:33.31 | Tusva | Lotsa people :D |
| 03:37.59 | enon | yeah |
| 03:38.02 | enon | but they dont talk |
| 03:38.04 | enon | lol |
| 03:38.20 | nemppu | i do talk \o7 |
| 03:38.29 | nemppu | draenei are so cool |
| 03:43.21 | Kirkburn | hoi |
| 03:43.26 | Kirkburn | Neither do you, enon :P |
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| 03:43.44 | enon | i never said i did =P |
| 03:43.44 | Tusva | oh i'm all about the talking :D |
| 03:43.52 | enon | no wai! |
| 03:43.54 | Kirkburn | Talk bitch, talk! |
| 03:44.02 | enon | lol |
| 03:44.17 | Tusva | I'm very impressed at the amount of people in here Kirkburn :D |
| 03:44.19 | enon | sounds like a sex hot line >< |
| 03:44.35 | Kirkburn | Atm, I am awaiting Fei Fei's arrival |
| 03:44.35 | enon | not that id know :S |
| 03:45.01 | Kirkburn | Tusva, :) |
| 03:45.07 | Kirkburn | Glad to hear it |
| 03:45.15 | Kirkburn | Reached 43 or so yesterday |
| 03:45.27 | Tusva | Well, I'll be here from now on as well you can be sure of that ;) |
| 03:45.30 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 03:45.33 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 03:45.42 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim and Bagginsww are away atm, hence the quietness |
| 03:45.49 | Thrae | Tusva: Look at the chanstats and you may find Kirkburn mostly talks to himself...he clones most of these guys! Including me. |
| 03:48.03 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 03:48.55 | Tusva | Does that newly crowned admin Adys come in here, that bugger? :P |
| 03:49.53 | Hobinheim | don't say the a word |
| 03:50.03 | Tusva | :O |
| 03:50.41 | Hobinheim | we're going to add a new policy WW:SAS |
| 03:52.31 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, would you be opposed to a one week shut the hell up period for our friend |
| 03:56.08 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 03:56.26 | Kirkburn | I'm going to be sickening and have myself some Phish Food icecream |
| 03:56.34 | Hobinheim | what's phish food |
| 03:56.40 | Tusva | It's delicious! |
| 03:57.19 | Kirkburn | It's bit of dried fish food in raspberry cream :P |
| 03:57.25 | Hobinheim | oh god please tell me this isn't uk only |
| 03:57.34 | Hobinheim | i can barely read it |
| 03:57.36 | Kirkburn | What, like Spotted Dick? |
| 03:57.44 | Hobinheim | choclate ice with marsh caramel and choclate fish? |
| 03:57.47 | Hobinheim | wow... |
| 03:57.48 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 03:57.57 | Kirkburn | Tasty =) |
| 03:58.30 | Kirkburn | I know everyone thinks we eat odd food over here, but we really don't ) |
| 03:58.30 | Hobinheim | if i didn't already have ice cream in the house, i would drive to the super market and get some |
| 03:58.30 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 03:58.36 | Hobinheim | what do you call a store |
| 03:58.37 | Hobinheim | or super market |
| 03:58.46 | Hobinheim | "drive to market"? |
| 03:59.06 | Hobinheim | absence of the word "the" is a very funny concept to me |
| 03:59.13 | Hobinheim | like kirk is at uni or on holiday |
| 03:59.32 | Hobinheim | as opposed to being "at school" or "at the university" or "on vacation" |
| 03:59.43 | Tusva | I bet Oompa Loompas would mine marshmallow veins for you Thrae, at minimal cost |
| 04:00.08 | Thrae | Hobinheim: Whenever I hear "uni", I think of the snip-snip "euni". |
| 04:00.18 | Hobinheim | what? |
| 04:00.22 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, have I missed something? |
| 04:00.29 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, every time i see your sig, i have the hardest time NOT changing mine |
| 04:00.33 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 04:00.45 | Thrae | In a Sultan's Palance, "going to euni" has a whole other meaning! |
| 04:00.55 | Thrae | s/Palance/Palace/ |
| 04:00.57 | Kirkburn | In Soviet Russia, Sultan's Palace snip-snip YOU! |
| 04:01.08 | Bagginsww | its so easy to be away LOL |
| 04:01.24 | Bagginsww | I can't even pick up my rpg books right now LOL |
| 04:01.25 | Kirkburn | "absence of the word "the" is a very funny concept to me" <-- Hob, what do you mean? |
| 04:01.26 | Hobinheim | what am i not getting about euni |
| 04:01.38 | Kirkburn | Eunuch |
| 04:01.41 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn, you say someone is "on holiday". that phrase doesn't exist in en-us |
| 04:01.50 | Bagginsww | TBC is great |
| 04:01.50 | Kirkburn | Oh right :) |
| 04:01.53 | Hobinheim | or someone is "at uni" |
| 04:02.01 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Yacov Smirnof would be "In Soviet Russia, you snip-snip Sultans!" |
| 04:02.08 | Hobinheim | so i wondered if you would say you're driving to market or somethign weird like that |
| 04:02.08 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 04:02.12 | Hobinheim | as opposed to driving to THE market |
| 04:02.27 | Kirkburn | If you were a seller of cows, then perhaps |
| 04:02.43 | Hobinheim | god dammit Kirkburn... what other signatures are left |
| 04:02.47 | Kirkburn | For anyone else, driving to the supermarket |
| 04:02.53 | Hobinheim | at the time mine was awesome and yet you've found a more awesome signature |
| 04:02.57 | Hobinheim | i will ponder this.... |
| 04:03.04 | Kirkburn | Design yourself onw |
| 04:03.56 | Kirkburn | Tonight's highest level draenei - 23 |
| 04:04.05 | Hobinheim | only? feh |
| 04:04.12 | Kirkburn | 4am |
| 04:04.20 | Hobinheim | wtf are you doing up? |
| 04:04.31 | Hobinheim | lol yeah wow 11 - 5 is 4AM... |
| 04:04.39 | Hobinheim | (i'm in -5 territory) |
| 04:04.53 | Hobinheim | happy saturday |
| 04:05.16 | Hobinheim | LOL i can upload something awful icons |
| 04:05.24 | Hobinheim | to fully encapsulate my frustration at certain editors |
| 04:05.28 | Hobinheim | {{argh}} |
| 04:05.31 | Hobinheim | or {{yay}} |
| 04:06.59 | Thrae | "You are not prepared!" Damn straight...I need to reinstall my patches >.> |
| 04:07.49 | Hobinheim | painless |
| 04:08.18 | Thrae | Yeah, I think this installation doesn't have the 2.0.5 patch. |
| 04:11.59 | Kirkburn | Bloody broken mobs |
| 04:13.32 | Hobinheim | who babysits the server articles |
| 04:14.18 | Kirkburn | Thrae, it takes about 15 mins to dl 200MB for me :) |
| 04:14.22 | Hobinheim | it's not really blizzard's p2p implementation of anything, it's bit torrent |
| 04:14.48 | Thrae | "The tracker is not responding." |
| 04:14.55 | Hobinheim | are there auchindoun's in europe? |
| 04:15.01 | equiraptor | What's annoying to me is that they don't let us just use a normal bittorrent program with it. |
| 04:15.03 | Tusva | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors ! |
| 04:15.14 | Hobinheim | don't use patch mirrors! you might get owned! |
| 04:15.18 | equiraptor | I mean, yeah, you can extract the stuff and get it, but I think they should make it easy to use others. |
| 04:15.19 | Hobinheim | equiraptor, you can |
| 04:15.21 | Thrae | Hmm, now it's going faster |
| 04:15.33 | Hobinheim | equiraptor "just look it up on google, hurr" |
| 04:15.48 | equiraptor | Hobinheim: I think I should be able to just grab a link off Blizzard's site for it. |
| 04:15.57 | Hobinheim | fuck there are two auchindoun's |
| 04:16.02 | Hobinheim | why don't we have an article on the european one |
| 04:16.03 | equiraptor | "Patch seed here" Copy and paste the link to the torrent client on my server, and boom. |
| 04:16.21 | Hobinheim | is there a list of realsm? |
| 04:16.27 | Hobinheim | provided by blizzard? |
| 04:16.47 | Thrae | Hobinheim: realms.lst or realmlst.lst or something like that. |
| 04:17.14 | Hobinheim | freakin europeans... |
| 04:17.14 | Thrae | Hobinheim: realmlst.wtf |
| 04:17.45 | Thrae | I wonder if Blizzard claims "WTF" extensions are "suppose" to stand for something else. |
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| 04:19.53 | Kaet | hi |
| 04:19.58 | Hobinheim | hello |
| 04:20.54 | Kaet | for the "/click ButtonName [RightButton]" can i use it to right click on something? |
| 04:21.12 | Hobinheim | uhh i didn't know there was a click slash command |
| 04:21.24 | Hobinheim | you might want to try a diff channel for interface stuff |
| 04:21.29 | Hobinheim | like the #wowi-lounge |
| 04:21.36 | Kaet | no ones there |
| 04:21.58 | Kaet | sorry |
| 04:22.45 | Kaet | nm |
| 04:23.31 | Kirkburn | Server restart :/ |
| 04:24.48 | nemppu | yeah :/ |
| 04:24.54 | nemppu | Kirkburn EU? |
| 04:25.19 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 04:25.26 | nemppu | which servor? |
| 04:26.15 | Kaet | which server? |
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| 04:27.19 | Kirkburn | The other one |
| 04:27.24 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 04:27.26 | Kirkburn | Dragonblight |
| 04:27.30 | Hobinheim | blight? |
| 04:28.28 | Industrial | hmm, would it be hard to take a yatlas map, maxlevel zoom, and map every quest in an area? lol. |
| 04:29.43 | Industrial | and then draw lines to make a good path for question in an xp/time efficient way |
| 04:29.44 | Industrial | questing* |
| 04:29.44 | Industrial | theres one problem it takes a hell of a lot of work :( |
| 04:29.47 | Kirkburn | There's already something like that |
| 04:29.51 | Industrial | oh? |
| 04:29.53 | Hobinheim | lol what kidn of guild goal is this it doesn't make any sense |
| 04:29.54 | Hobinheim | Focused on both PvP and PvE |
| 04:30.18 | Kirkburn | Industrial, sec |
| 04:30.18 | Industrial | Kirkburn: sure |
| 04:30.18 | Hobinheim | dude show me |
| 04:30.18 | Hobinheim | i've been looking for soething like that |
| 04:30.23 | Hobinheim | oh wait you mean at a quest guide |
| 04:30.26 | Hobinheim | those exist |
| 04:30.33 | Hobinheim | i'm trying to write one... i'm such an amateur tho =( |
| 04:30.38 | Industrial | exactly |
| 04:30.41 | Industrial | so, |
| 04:30.44 | nemppu | owell |
| 04:30.47 | Industrial | lets writeone with evertone |
| 04:30.48 | Industrial | :D |
| 04:30.51 | nemppu | server reset and 0630 yells "GO TO SLEEP" |
| 04:30.52 | Industrial | everyone, god the typos |
| 04:30.52 | nemppu | so i shall! |
| 04:30.53 | Kirkburn | Wow cartgographe - it's not an addon though, it's out of game |
| 04:31.00 | Kirkburn | *cartographe |
| 04:31.11 | Industrial | id rather have it out of game |
| 04:31.30 | Kirkburn | In fact: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_Cartographe |
| 04:31.46 | Industrial | got it, thanks |
| 04:31.47 | Hobinheim | i think we could do beter |
| 04:31.54 | Kirkburn | People have added mob paths etc to it |
| 04:32.15 | Hobinheim | french... fe |
| 04:32.17 | Industrial | its french :| (oh dids i see that coming) |
| 04:32.24 | Kirkburn | It has english files |
| 04:32.32 | Hobinheim | GO AMERICA! |
| 04:32.41 | Kirkburn | It has ENGLISH files ;) |
| 04:33.13 | Industrial | cant we just call English (the language) International? |
| 04:33.16 | Industrial | :D |
| 04:34.42 | Kirkburn | No, you smell |
| 04:34.54 | Industrial | yes, i do. |
| 04:35.01 | Industrial | omg im loving this thing |
| 04:35.53 | Kirkburn | Haven't tried it for a while, wonder how much Outland stuff it has |
| 04:36.59 | Hobinheim | hmm maybe i should download it =( |
| 04:37.03 | Industrial | this is great :O |
| 04:37.17 | Hobinheim | THE FRENCH CAN'T BE THAT GREAT |
| 04:39.36 | Industrial | THEY INVENTED THE METRIC SYSTEM WICH PWNS |
| 04:39.48 | Industrial | but the language is snobby. |
| 04:40.06 | Hobinheim | the documentation is LE TERRIBLEH |
| 04:40.21 | Industrial | who needs docs it works fine |
| 04:40.52 | Industrial | I can see every chest and resource and quest npc and his related npcs and mob levels and quest items to open etc |
| 04:41.05 | Hobinheim | fuck we need something like that =( |
| 04:43.09 | Industrial | omfg |
| 04:43.14 | Industrial | mankriks wife. |
| 04:43.23 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 04:43.39 | Industrial | mind if i spread this on every wow related channel? mankriks wife has been found. |
| 04:43.49 | Industrial | its a horde joke |
| 04:44.04 | Hobinheim | a lame one at that |
| 04:45.51 | Hobinheim | wow... |
| 04:45.53 | Hobinheim | damn |
| 04:48.01 | Hobinheim | it's not as usable or as sexy as it should be |
| 04:48.32 | Hobinheim | not impressed |
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| 05:02.30 | Kirkburn | I've run out of interesting/easy HFP quests - all group and loong quests |
| 05:05.03 | Kirkburn | ... I just got Cenarion Circle rep |
| 05:05.17 | Kirkburn | You might wonder what's odd about that |
| 05:05.33 | Kirkburn | Cenarion Expedition? |
| 05:11.38 | Industrial | HPF? |
| 05:11.52 | Kirkburn | oh come now |
| 05:12.14 | Industrial | what im level 20 |
| 05:12.14 | Industrial | :p |
| 05:12.30 | Kirkburn | Hellfire Peninsula, noob |
| 05:13.06 | Industrial | :E |
| 05:41.14 | Bagginsww | how odd |
| 05:41.23 | Bagginsww | two quests with the name, "Return to the Marsh" |
| 05:41.38 | Bagginsww | a low level mage questg, and a quest in outland |
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| 06:50.47 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, so I see, weird |
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| 09:58.16 | fLUx-- | hey guys |
| 09:58.33 | fLUx-- | If anyone hasnt seen the South Park WoW episode....watch it!! lmao |
| 09:58.37 | fLUx-- | Part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlx469XW24c |
| 09:58.48 | fLUx-- | Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzV3yHekFk |
| 09:59.09 | fLUx-- | Part3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zR90STYF8 |
| 09:59.19 | amro | they ruined it when the guy didn't just rezz at the end |
| 09:59.36 | fLUx-- | lol |
| 10:00.05 | fLUx-- | I watched it then it was aired for the first time, but of course, as a non-wow player, i didnt get most of it... |
| 10:03.56 | Kirkburn | twas awesome |
| 10:03.59 | fLUx-- | Hey, the "The Sword of a Thousand Truths" is real in TBC... ;) |
| 10:04.06 | fLUx-- | lol |
| 10:13.28 | sancus | mold-est |
| 10:29.29 | Apollozeus | no fLUx-- |
| 10:29.31 | Apollozeus | it was removed |
| 10:29.43 | Apollozeus | it was in the beta for a short time, but it hasn't made it to the final version of TBC |
| 10:30.16 | amro | they should've left it, like wirt's third legg |
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| 10:33.55 | Jennaxorz | ... |
| 10:35.14 | Kirkburn | Hello |
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| 10:38.51 | fLUx-- | oh thats gay! :P It should have been kept in for the final version! :P |
| 10:39.19 | Jennaxorz | Who what now? |
| 10:39.36 | fLUx-- | The Sword of a Thousand Truths |
| 10:39.41 | Jennaxorz | You're right. |
| 10:41.08 | fLUx-- | anyhow, gonna get dressed, have some food, and play wow for 10 mins (well, 10 mins in wow time, 3 hours in real life time! :P) |
| 10:42.20 | Jennaxorz | Have fun with that Burning Crusade. |
| 10:43.02 | fLUx-- | nope, im a noob still on normal WoW :P |
| 10:43.32 | Jennaxorz | I wouldn't really call you a noob. |
| 10:43.34 | Jennaxorz | I would call you.. |
| 10:43.42 | Jennaxorz | Not having enough money for it? |
| 10:45.53 | amro | you can call me not caring enough to go through the trouble of importing it |
| 10:48.19 | fLUx-- | :P I dont see the point really......Im only lvl.11 so far lol |
| 10:48.50 | fLUx-- | Though, I do have £160 GBP in my paypal from xmas....so i can afford to order it! just so you know!! lmao |
| 10:48.54 | Jennaxorz | Lol, I guess. |
| 10:50.01 | fLUx-- | what lvl do you have to be for tbc anyway? I guess it contains high lvl mobs yeh? |
| 10:52.00 | Jennaxorz | Um. You don't have to be a certain level to do it.. |
| 10:52.11 | Jennaxorz | Just like... start over and then you can go from there. |
| 10:52.24 | Jennaxorz | Most of the new stuff is level 70 but you don't HAVE to be that level to play. |
| 10:53.02 | fLUx-- | do you have to totaly start from lvl.1? Or can you just use your wow1 char in it? |
| 10:53.35 | Jennaxorz | Yeah, you can use your old character if you like and still do all the same things, just get up to 70, which is pretty l337. |
| 10:53.50 | Jennaxorz | Do you play on a PVP server or a normal server? |
| 10:53.54 | Jennaxorz | Or what? |
| 10:53.57 | fLUx-- | pvp |
| 10:54.08 | amro | level up in hillsbrad |
| 10:54.10 | amro | totally safe zone |
| 10:54.20 | Jennaxorz | Lol You should totally reroll on Coilfang and join the guild <Swarm>. |
| 10:54.28 | Jennaxorz | :D |
| 10:55.01 | fLUx-- | whats swarm? |
| 10:55.13 | Jennaxorz | It's just the guild that I'm an officer in. |
| 10:55.20 | Jennaxorz | And basically help to run. |
| 10:55.36 | fLUx-- | nice |
| 10:55.46 | Jennaxorz | We're looking for people to play to get up to level 70 and do end game raiding with and whatnot. |
| 10:55.54 | fLUx-- | what server? Coilfang? |
| 10:55.57 | Jennaxorz | We have a nice guild full of cool people. |
| 10:55.58 | Jennaxorz | Yes. |
| 10:56.03 | Jennaxorz | New server, only like 3 days old. |
| 10:56.29 | fLUx-- | I know I'm only a lvl.11, but ive restarted 3 times already! :P |
| 10:56.41 | Jennaxorz | Haha, it's cool. I've rerolled several times. |
| 10:56.57 | Jennaxorz | Just thought I would do some guild propaganda. |
| 10:57.18 | fLUx-- | rerolled = start from scratch? |
| 10:57.21 | Jennaxorz | We're honestly looking for some serious members though. |
| 10:57.41 | Jennaxorz | Basically rerolling is starting a new character on a new server, so basically yes. |
| 10:57.52 | fLUx-- | ummm |
| 10:57.55 | Jennaxorz | I just said basically twice in the same sentence.. looks kind of odd. Lawl. |
| 10:58.09 | fLUx-- | lol |
| 10:58.27 | Jennaxorz | But yeah. We have a guild website and a vent server of course. |
| 10:58.46 | fLUx-- | whats the site? |
| 10:59.48 | fLUx-- | ah shite... |
| 10:59.58 | fLUx-- | bet your on the US servers aint you? |
| 11:00.20 | Jennaxorz | Yeah. |
| 11:00.21 | Jennaxorz | Um. |
| 11:00.29 | fLUx-- | Im on EU :( |
| 11:00.33 | kuinkala | \o/ |
| 11:00.38 | Jennaxorz | It doesn't matter though, even if you normally play Oceanic, you can still switch over whenever you want. |
| 11:00.48 | Jennaxorz | Lots of people play on US servers that live in different continents. |
| 11:00.59 | fLUx-- | how you mean? How can i do that safely? |
| 11:01.13 | Jennaxorz | We have people from Canada (Still the same continent, I know.) and Australia too. |
| 11:01.16 | Jennaxorz | Lol Just switch over. |
| 11:01.17 | fLUx-- | I though blizz were deleting EU accounts on US servers? |
| 11:01.24 | Jennaxorz | Seriously? |
| 11:01.27 | Jennaxorz | Where did you hear that? |
| 11:01.32 | Jennaxorz | They can't do that.. |
| 11:01.36 | fLUx-- | digg.com i think |
| 11:01.41 | Jennaxorz | At least I don't think that they can do that. |
| 11:01.50 | Jennaxorz | I don't see why they would delete those accounts. |
| 11:01.53 | Jennaxorz | That's really not fair. |
| 11:02.00 | fLUx-- | yeh i know |
| 11:02.06 | Jennaxorz | You just chose a US server and go on it. That's all. |
| 11:02.09 | amro | why would they? |
| 11:02.19 | Jennaxorz | I've played on Oceanic servers before and it's fine.. |
| 11:02.25 | Jennaxorz | So I'm sure it's the same way. |
| 11:02.29 | Jennaxorz | I don't know why they would do that. |
| 11:02.39 | amro | you get a higher ping but that's your problem not blizzard's |
| 11:02.44 | fLUx-- | how can I get onto a US server though? |
| 11:02.50 | fLUx-- | *then |
| 11:02.50 | Jennaxorz | But yeah, the site is: Swarmguild.low-ping.com |
| 11:02.52 | amro | you buy the US version of the game |
| 11:03.08 | Jennaxorz | You don't need the US version of the game to play on a US server? o.O |
| 11:03.21 | Jennaxorz | I can get on Oceanic servers.. and I have the US version. |
| 11:03.34 | Jennaxorz | So wouldn't it be the same both ways? |
| 11:03.40 | fLUx-- | whats Oceanic? |
| 11:03.46 | Jennaxorz | Other continents and stuff. |
| 11:04.04 | Jennaxorz | Eu, Au, Asia, etc. |
| 11:04.15 | fLUx-- | donno |
| 11:04.48 | Jennaxorz | What kinds of options does it give you when it allows you to pick a server? |
| 11:04.57 | fLUx-- | how you mean? |
| 11:05.00 | Jennaxorz | Because I can choose between oceanic and US. |
| 11:05.25 | fLUx-- | those tabs at the bottom? |
| 11:05.27 | sancus | oceanic servers aren't oceanic |
| 11:05.28 | Jennaxorz | When you first signed into WoW, and you chose a server, did it only let you pick from European ones? |
| 11:05.36 | fLUx-- | i think so yeh |
| 11:05.40 | sancus | they're just servers hosted in the US that are "intended" for oceanic people |
| 11:05.47 | Jennaxorz | Seriously? |
| 11:05.51 | sancus | EU/asia are seperate distribution zones and have their own isolated account systems |
| 11:06.05 | sancus | and are run by people other than blizzard |
| 11:06.12 | Jennaxorz | Woah. |
| 11:06.24 | sancus | so nope, no crossover |
| 11:06.39 | fLUx-- | it sux because in the EU, theres like 10% of the people whos first lang is english, so its hard to talk to them properly lol |
| 11:06.39 | sancus | it's actually against the rules now to play on US servers if you're in asia/europe, theoretically |
| 11:06.40 | Jennaxorz | What about Austrailia? |
| 11:07.03 | sancus | australians buy the US version and play on the US servers/"oceanic" if they like |
| 11:07.12 | Jennaxorz | Ahh so that explains that. |
| 11:07.16 | sancus | so do uh new zealanders and singaporeans, I believe |
| 11:07.28 | fLUx-- | so the english servers in the EU have every other lang exept german, french, and spanish |
| 11:07.30 | Jennaxorz | I figured it applied for all other continents. |
| 11:07.45 | fLUx-- | im on stormreaver |
| 11:07.47 | sancus | oceania is just basically not big enough to justify selling the rights to its own publisher |
| 11:07.57 | Jennaxorz | Lol. |
| 11:08.14 | Jennaxorz | Blizz is a bunch of Nazis when it comes to their user agreements. |
| 11:08.20 | Jennaxorz | Seriously, have you read some of that stuff? |
| 11:08.39 | fLUx-- | lol no |
| 11:09.26 | Jennaxorz | It says that you don't even own the account that you pay for, so technically you can't sell your account because it doesn't belong to you. |
| 11:09.27 | Jennaxorz | But people do it anyway. |
| 11:09.27 | fLUx-- | how would i find a serious guild on a server? should i just talk to random people or what? :P |
| 11:09.27 | Jennaxorz | Also, some of the name rules are RIDICULOUS. They basically narrow it down so you can't have any name in the game cept the ones they randomly generate ofr you. |
| 11:09.28 | Jennaxorz | Yeah. |
| 11:09.48 | Jennaxorz | Look for guild names and then do /who <guildname> And it should tell you how many members they have I think. |
| 11:09.58 | Jennaxorz | So like.. /who Swarm. |
| 11:10.01 | amro | jenna, ive seen the weirdest names that were never renamed |
| 11:10.09 | Jennaxorz | Yeah me too. |
| 11:10.21 | Jennaxorz | They don't really pay attention to those rules, the GMs I mean. |
| 11:10.35 | Jennaxorz | They'll let you get away with an innappropiate name just as long as no one reports you. |
| 11:10.52 | Jennaxorz | Like.. I had a gnome named Fagbox, that my friends made just to go make fun of people in Ironforge. |
| 11:10.55 | Jennaxorz | That got me reported. |
| 11:11.17 | Jennaxorz | I had to change the name/ delete the character. |
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| 11:11.23 | fLUx-- | anyhow, gonna play now....cyas later |
| 11:11.27 | Jennaxorz | Have fun. |
| 11:11.29 | Jennaxorz | Seeya. |
| 11:12.00 | Jennaxorz | I wonder why there are like 3492794824 people in this room and only like 3 are talking. |
| 11:12.22 | Jennaxorz | IRC never fails to amaze me. You see all those things on bash.org and you wonder how they could have ever possibly come to be considering that no one EVER says anything. |
| 11:12.34 | sancus | you wonder why? |
| 11:12.39 | Jennaxorz | Yes. |
| 11:12.44 | sancus | most people in IRC idle and only talk when they're paying attention to the window :P |
| 11:13.01 | Jennaxorz | They should pay more attention. ¬.¬ |
| 11:13.10 | Jennaxorz | But I figured that might be why. |
| 11:13.11 | sancus | it's like aim or msn |
| 11:13.18 | sancus | you dont talk most of the time you're logged into it :P |
| 11:13.25 | Jennaxorz | I do. I guess I'm weird. |
| 11:13.35 | sancus | yep |
| 11:13.53 | Jennaxorz | Usually I don't leave it AFK cause then people pm and I'm like WTF when I come back because there are like a million messages I didn't see. |
| 11:14.07 | Jennaxorz | People that think I'm there because my name doesn't idle. |
| 11:14.14 | Jennaxorz | Anyway.. |
| 11:15.02 | fLUx-- | oh btw, anyone know how many people are in each server? If it says Full....whats full mean? 500? 1000? 10,000? |
| 11:15.38 | Jennaxorz | Um. |
| 11:15.45 | Jennaxorz | I would guess around 5000 people is fullish. |
| 11:15.49 | Jennaxorz | But that's just a guess. |
| 11:16.03 | fLUx-- | oh kk |
| 11:16.18 | fLUx-- | is it normal to never see anyone exept in citys? :P |
| 11:16.23 | Jennaxorz | Maybe a lot less, but I heard people talking and saying that there are like 1000 some people to 3000 some people on Horde side. |
| 11:16.27 | Jennaxorz | I guess so. |
| 11:16.31 | Jennaxorz | It depends. |
| 11:16.45 | Jennaxorz | In the starting zones there are usually ALWAYS people, unless you play on a low server. |
| 11:17.02 | Jennaxorz | Low population I mean. |
| 11:17.11 | amro | not always, in a few months they'll be empty as usual |
| 11:17.21 | Jennaxorz | True. |
| 11:17.24 | amro | its hell to get groups for >20 quests |
| 11:17.32 | amro | <20 |
| 11:17.41 | Jennaxorz | But since Burning Crusade came out and I started as a Draenei, there were so many people that they were fighting over respawns. |
| 11:17.45 | Jennaxorz | Waiting in line to kill things. |
| 11:18.01 | Jennaxorz | It's not so hard when you're in a good guild full of people your level. |
| 11:18.05 | Jennaxorz | Called Swarm. |
| 11:18.12 | Jennaxorz | *Cough.* On Coilfang. |
| 11:18.17 | Jennaxorz | Pst Genevieve. |
| 11:18.18 | Jennaxorz | :D |
| 11:19.49 | sancus | heh |
| 11:20.23 | Jennaxorz | Are you guys like.. Horde side or Alliance side? |
| 11:20.32 | Jennaxorz | Which do you prefer, rather? |
| 11:21.18 | amro | i badly wanted to get my mage to 60 and aoe the starting area quest mobs for draenei |
| 11:22.36 | Jennaxorz | You would have one hell of a time getting in there my friend. |
| 11:23.16 | Jennaxorz | I mean seriously, getting into the Draenei starting area, in my opinion, would be just as hard as getting into the Night Elf starting island. |
| 11:23.30 | Jennaxorz | In fact I don't even think it's possible to get over there. |
| 11:23.35 | sancus | I'm a level 64 undead mage on executus in ropetown |
| 11:23.35 | Jennaxorz | The island is too far away I think. |
| 11:24.04 | Jennaxorz | I love Horde. So much. |
| 11:24.06 | nemppu | Jennaxorz i remember when eu retail launched, there was a RING around the 100% exact spawn spot of that quest-mob-orc-in-the-cave, in durotar. and they would all just stand there and mash right click and when it did spawn it would die nearly instantly :D |
| 11:24.21 | Jennaxorz | But I guess I kinda like Alliance too.. |
| 11:24.24 | Jennaxorz | Lol |
| 11:24.27 | Jennaxorz | That's cool. |
| 11:25.05 | Jennaxorz | I love Horde side because I can go into the Barrens and talk about Chuck Norris and other stupid stuff. |
| 11:25.13 | nemppu | :D |
| 11:25.57 | Jennaxorz | This one time we were talking about this guy that someone knew who told everyone that his shoulders had spikes on them and fought for him in battle. |
| 11:26.08 | Jennaxorz | And did extra damage. |
| 11:26.19 | Jennaxorz | We just made fun of that guy to no end. |
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| 11:41.06 | Apollozeus | admins? |
| 11:41.14 | Apollozeus | any around? D: |
| 12:10.20 | kuinkala | :) |
| 12:10.51 | fLUx-- | do you get more xp on quests the faster you do it? |
| 12:11.43 | sancus | no |
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| 15:08.08 | fLUx-- | anyone know what the little line on my xp bar is? cant seem to find any info on it |
| 15:23.33 | equiraptor | Is your XP bar blue currently? |
| 15:23.44 | equiraptor | Well, the XP you have blue. |
| 15:25.43 | equiraptor | http://www.wowwiki.com/Rest |
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| 16:05.01 | LucidFox | can I play on European servers with the US client, provided I have a European account? |
| 16:05.51 | nemppu | you need to tickle your client a bit |
| 16:05.54 | nemppu | ill tell you how |
| 16:06.15 | nemppu | there's a realmlist.wtf file in your world of warcraft folder |
| 16:06.35 | nemppu | you need to open it with notepad |
| 16:06.43 | LucidFox | I know |
| 16:06.45 | nemppu | and change it from whatever it is to: set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:06.56 | nemppu | ok then yes |
| 16:06.57 | LucidFox | I know I have to change the server address |
| 16:07.01 | LucidFox | ok |
| 16:07.13 | nemppu | the clients dont differ in any way except that |
| 16:07.16 | nemppu | afaik |
| 16:07.27 | nemppu | atleast i played US beta, korea beta, EU beta and EU retail with the same client |
| 16:07.34 | nemppu | evidanc!!11 |
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| 17:28.30 | cK^DeathmanX | a level 31 draeni shaman?! |
| 17:28.32 | cK^DeathmanX | i must KILL |
| 17:28.50 | cK^DeathmanX | didnt know they had hooves |
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| 17:34.10 | equiraptor | I see a level 33 in STV on Whisperwind (PvE, sorry). |
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| 19:05.10 | LeJerk | i have a question |
| 19:05.43 | LeJerk | oh someone fixed it =] |
| 19:05.53 | LeJerk | i added a screenshot to this page http://www.wowwiki.com/Ambassador_Infernus |
| 19:06.16 | LeJerk | but it came up as the full size image |
| 19:06.17 | LeJerk | how do i link it to a thumbnail? |
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| 19:07.42 | Apollozeus | ^_^ |
| 19:07.45 | Apollozeus | I dig my new computer |
| 19:07.48 | Apollozeus | it's so much faster :D |
| 19:08.08 | equiraptor | What is it? |
| 19:08.58 | Apollozeus | I upgraded from a pretty-crappy-pc to a slighty-crappy-but-not-as-crappy-as-before-pc ;) |
| 19:11.00 | equiraptor | Yeah. I was wondering what it was. You know, what processors, what RAM, graphics card, etc. |
| 19:12.25 | Apollozeus | I'll show you in a sec |
| 19:12.25 | Apollozeus | I'm too busy installing software right now :P |
| 19:12.25 | LucidFox | what do you think is the creepiest zone in the game? |
| 19:13.20 | Apollozeus | bbl |
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| 19:13.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | BEEP! |
| 19:13.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | darn it |
| 19:14.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | Been putting time in taking away the not WoW related pages like: http://www.wowwiki.com/CCG |
| 19:14.32 | Patrigan-Syldra | and Beep2 just didn't find it better than to revert it, because he found it nicely explained |
| 19:14.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | We're not here to explain glossary unrelated to WoW People looking for it will find it anyways |
| 19:16.28 | LeJerk | how do you make a thumnail for a full size imagE? |
| 19:17.08 | LucidFox | thumbnails are made automatically |
| 19:17.22 | LucidFox | you type: [[Image:Filename.ext|size]] |
| 19:17.29 | LucidFox | where size can be, for example, 100px |
| 19:19.03 | LeJerk | is 100 the standard size for a thumnail? |
| 19:21.11 | LucidFox | no |
| 19:21.16 | LucidFox | the default size is 180 |
| 19:21.52 | LucidFox | so [[Image:Filename.ext|thumb]] will yield a 180px thumbnail |
| 19:27.17 | LeJerk | thanks! |
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| 19:49.39 | Bagginsww | ok elementals article lists bog giants as elemental, but I haven't run into one elemental bog giant |
| 19:49.52 | Bagginsww | all the ones i've seen has them listed as giants |
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