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| 18:02.26 | Crosshash | Who maintains TSM? |
| 18:03.29 | Funkeh` | oh dear, more versions going on the ban list? |
| 18:04.58 | Crosshash | Hopefully not |
| 18:05.11 | Funkeh` | i think they have a discord |
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| 18:05.55 | Vardex | They do |
| 18:07.21 | Funkeh` | doesn't seem to be eassy to find |
| 18:07.42 | Vardex | https://discord.gg/woweconomy |
| 18:08.27 | Crosshash | Thanks |
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| 18:09.53 | Yuyuli | you should contact Sapu, what is TSM doing you don't want to? D.d |
| 18:10.19 | Funkeh` | existing |
| 18:10.28 | Yuyuli | apart from that :D |
| 18:10.36 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 18:11.09 | Yuyuli | i think the way TSM hammers the API is also to blame on the api crosshash |
| 18:11.16 | Vardex | For once it's not about addon message |
| 18:11.21 | Yuyuli | because you need to look into every single auction for any proper info |
| 18:12.18 | AcidWeb | replication api is already hotfixed |
| 18:12.24 | Yuyuli | tsm doesn't use that |
| 18:12.31 | Crosshash | It's not anything to do with auctions |
| 18:12.31 | AcidWeb | you can pull all auctions in civilized way |
| 18:12.36 | Yuyuli | oh |
| 18:13.04 | Funkeh` | he just wants to report a typo in the UI |
| 18:13.11 | Vardex | I hope it's finally about enforcing addon dev policy |
| 18:13.13 | Yuyuli | nah acid, replication is not a solution for tsm addon, thats why it doesn't use it |
| 18:13.45 | AcidWeb | Crossash: If you already here. Can I ask why UI reload became fully protected? |
| 18:14.16 | AcidWeb | This is a nasty breaking change for a minor patch. |
| 18:14.29 | Funkeh` | Protected beyond requiring a hardware event? |
| 18:14.35 | AcidWeb | No. Completly. |
| 18:14.42 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 18:14.43 | AcidWeb | Eh. *Yes |
| 18:14.51 | Meorawr | To add onto that question, if the change made to ReloadUI was because of the report I submitted then I don't believe the change in place has actually fixed anything. |
| 18:14.52 | Chipzz | AcidWeb: my guess is because it saves the SavedVariables |
| 18:15.07 | Chipzz | AcidWeb: which allows to export data outside the WoW client |
| 18:15.19 | nebula | so what |
| 18:15.36 | AcidWeb | Well if that was the case it is like fixing the leak by burning the pipes. |
| 18:15.36 | Chipzz | AcidWeb: combine that wth an external utility that watches a specific SavedVariables file |
| 18:15.45 | Chipzz | *with |
| 18:16.20 | Yuyuli | wut chipzz |
| 18:17.14 | Vardex | That stupid if that the case, warcraftlogs companion is allowed which export data from the game probably by reading memory |
| 18:17.33 | Crosshash | I'm not sure why |
| 18:17.38 | Crosshash | Probably savedvariables |
| 18:17.39 | Chipzz | reloading the addon would also reload the SavedVariables, ths allowing data to be imported too |
| 18:17.48 | Chipzz | *thus |
| 18:18.05 | Yuyuli | when you /reload, the game overwrites the savedvars |
| 18:18.07 | Vardex | Also it was already hardware protected, so you would need to fake hardware input |
| 18:18.16 | Chipzz | note how WoW is supposed to be a sandbox with no communication with the OS |
| 18:18.23 | Yuyuli | you have to logout and back in to actually write into saved vars to load into the game |
| 18:19.08 | AcidWeb | Crosshash: oof. That will be painful. |
| 18:20.00 | Funkeh` | Whatever it's try to fix, I doubt it fixes it, like Meorawr said |
| 18:20.07 | AcidWeb | ^ |
| 18:20.36 | Meorawr | _If_ it's intended to fix the precise thing, of course. |
| 18:20.46 | Funkeh` | this seems like another "block toggling UI frames in combat" style """fix""" |
| 18:20.47 | Meorawr | Which is probably unlikely given its err... obscurity. |
| 18:21.32 | Yuyuli | if it were that, i feel like that would be easy to fix to not allow it in combat lol |
| 18:21.35 | Chipzz | Yuyuli: you could try to trigger a race condition |
| 18:21.42 | Chipzz | Yuyuli: which is not entirely impossible I think |
| 18:21.54 | Chipzz | actually it sounds very much possible if you're quick enoigh |
| 18:22.24 | Chipzz | things like file monitors will tell you exactly when the file was overwritten |
| 18:22.44 | Yuyuli | well yeah but i don't understand what for |
| 18:22.56 | Yuyuli | you can write into your addon data directly and it will always load that, no need to fuck with savedvars |
| 18:23.06 | Yuyuli | if you are using external tools lol |
| 18:23.12 | Chipzz | "addon data"? |
| 18:23.27 | Chipzz | you mean the files in your addon dir? |
| 18:23.34 | Yuyuli | your addon itself, like what tsm and raiderio etc do |
| 18:23.36 | Vardex | You modify the file in Interface/AddOns instead of WTF |
| 18:23.45 | Chipzz | right |
| 18:23.51 | Yuyuli | thats why for example TSM has the apphelper addon, thats where the data is |
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| 18:24.21 | Chipzz | "apphelper /addon/"? |
| 18:25.15 | Yuyuli | yes its an addon, it's only purpose is to add data via the tsm client |
| 18:25.28 | Yuyuli | so the auction data ingame can be updates on /reload |
| 18:25.55 | Chipzz | right, I was actually contemplating a similar scheme for an addon I had in mind |
| 19:01.50 | Meorawr | Crosshash: It seems the ReloadUI thing from earlier might actually be a bug with OnClick handlers on the PTR not working with functions that require hardware inputs: <https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues/62> |
| 19:05.01 | nevcairiel | thats an odd bug |
| 19:05.52 | Meorawr | Very. |
| 19:08.08 | Funkeh` | there's hope |
| 19:08.22 | Meorawr | If you'd like I could find something else and have all hope taken away again |
| 19:09.06 | Meorawr | "We've decided that addons can no longer be trusted to create UI widgets without first presenting a captcha to the user." |
| 19:10.40 | Funkeh` | if it eventually leads to the ability to create private saved variables, let's do it |
| 19:11.41 | Funkeh` | "what did it cost" "everything" |
| 19:11.56 | AcidWeb | captcha will be generated inside diablo immortal |
| 19:12.00 | AcidWeb | to increase userbase |
| 19:12.30 | Funkeh` | then you don't use a captcha, you use a 2FA token since you obviously have a phone |
| 19:12.40 | Funkeh` | via SMS |
| 19:12.55 | AcidWeb | via Pigeon |
| 19:13.05 | AcidWeb | Pigeon with a smartphone. |
| 19:13.24 | Funkeh` | smartgeon? |
| 19:13.41 | AcidWeb | Pigphone. |
| 19:14.10 | Funkeh` | but that's the wrong animal! |
| 19:17.38 | Yuyuli | GameTooltip_SetTooltipWaitingForData hm i guess it does exactly what it says |
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| 19:39.50 | Crosshash | The OnClick handlers issue is being fixed |
| 19:40.04 | Yuyuli | hurra |
| 19:42.01 | Meorawr | Thanks :) |
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