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| 21:52.28 | foxlit | my record of terrible Nectrotic Wake runs continues |
| 21:53.40 | nevcairiel | necrotic wake on tyrannical is a horrible place |
| 21:57.51 | foxlit | even the trash layout is... unfortunate. Doing natural pulls lands you way below the required enemy forces percentage. |
| 21:59.10 | nevcairiel | i never felt like that was the case in any dungeon |
| 21:59.18 | nevcairiel | the trash is often very on rails |
| 22:00.11 | foxlit | there are places where you don't even have to think about it, like SD. |
| 22:00.29 | foxlit | there are places where you kind of have to think about it, but not very hard, like DOS. |
| 22:00.38 | nevcairiel | both the trash ability sclaing and the boss scaling in necrotic are totally off though |
| 22:01.02 | nevcairiel | on that node incoming damage scaling is overall pretty off, gets far too strong |
| 22:01.08 | nevcairiel | note* |
| 22:02.44 | foxlit | and then there's NW, where you can carve a very obvious path through the left side of the first room, and then limit the trash after the bridge to the pack of 2 mobs and a necromancer pack. |
| 22:03.02 | foxlit | which is like ~5 pulls short of what the percentage requires. |
| 22:03.48 | nevcairiel | it doesnt feel that natural to skip so much after the bridge |
| 22:04.14 | nevcairiel | the big patroling guy is in your way much of the time, and the natural way would be killing the big pack before the necro |
| 22:04.21 | foxlit | it's a slight exageration on my part; you can also pull the bonestorm mob depending on where he's on the patrol path |
| 22:05.53 | foxlit | ew, killing the pack of two gets you (a) a safe spot from the patrols (b) a spear and (c) right at the pillar that skips that pre-necromancer pack. |
| 22:07.17 | foxlit | I mean, you could then walk directly into the next trash pack, but the skip is like... right there. |
| 22:14.08 | znf | NW sucks. |
| 22:14.25 | znf | not to mention that the time it takes you to do the damn trash before 3rd boss :-/ |
| 22:14.34 | znf | (is too long) |
| 22:14.46 | foxlit | I kind of like that trash. |
| 22:14.54 | foxlit | It has a fun side-to-side bounce because of the patrol path |
| 22:15.06 | znf | the damage abilities are insane |
| 22:15.13 | znf | for those 2 guys right before boss |
| 22:15.22 | znf | if they both do the cleaver on a single guy, he's dead |
| 22:15.53 | foxlit | I haven't yet met a group who didn't go all surprised pikachu on the very first cleaver throw. |
| 22:17.12 | foxlit | you're supposed to land the cleavers on someone else, though. Preferably the other mob, but in a pinch, the tank will do just as well. |
| 22:17.48 | nevcairiel | what i dont like about that trash is the auto-engaging of the new groups shortly before the boss |
| 22:18.03 | nevcairiel | its a long ass single pull between all of them, and you are likely to proc the pride mob in between |
| 22:27.07 | znf | wait, you can land the cleaver on the other mob? |
| 22:27.10 | znf | hmm, didn't know that |
| 22:28.35 | foxlit | There's a preview of that mechanic in one of the pulls before the first boss, and again while clearing the non-linked trash before the third. |
| 22:31.13 | foxlit | where do you prefer to park the abominations during the third boss? |
| 22:32.06 | foxlit | My natural reflex was in the dead middle of the room, but that resulted in so. many. hook misses. |
| 22:35.32 | znf | that's the best, imho, talking as a dps |
| 22:41.21 | znf | otherwise, if you tank it too close, you run out of space |
| 22:41.25 | znf | and you get poop on people |
| 22:50.14 | nevcairiel | dead middle seems to work for us |
| 22:50.25 | nevcairiel | or slightly rotated if there is poop there |
| 22:51.57 | nevcairiel | randos will often just fail the hook for obscure reasons, not sure positioning is an issue if you are in the middle |
| 22:52.05 | nevcairiel | too far or too close should be avoided |
| 22:53.34 | foxlit | I think it actually has infinite range, but getting the angle right becomes harder the further away it is. |
| 22:53.48 | nevcairiel | i feel like it stopped short when we had him against the back wall |