| 00:04.21 | foxlit | "Kleia's determination (and mace) make enemies pay dearly, dealing 13 Physical damage to any who attack her." << do you think the thorns procs on the attack that kills Kleia? |
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| 00:22.51 | Gnarfoz | probably not? |
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| 00:47.25 | foxlit | okay, so status update: out of the 223 mission logs so far, I have problems with 3. |
| 00:48.26 | foxlit | 2 are Kota not attacking things in suspicious ways, and the last is float rounding. |
| 00:50.49 | foxlit | (essentially, I'd like to get floor(90*(1-0.2-0.2-0.2-0.2)) to equal 18, and floor(90*(1+1-0.2-0.2-0.2-0.2)) to equal 107. |
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| 01:52.32 | znf | foxlit, so I got the soul ash mission again |
| 01:52.35 | znf | what now? :D |
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| 01:59.10 | Ammako | ... you can get stuck inside those barriers at the end of AQ40 :( https://i.imgur.com/S9b306K.png |
| 02:43.36 | Chipzz | WFT Wrath of Aliothe... You transfer into bear form with a vehicle action bar, which has 4 skills named after Guardian spells, but none of them have the rigt icon? |
| 02:43.50 | Chipzz | seriously, who creates this quest? o.O |
| 02:53.47 | nebula | it's not Aliothe's fault druids copied and renamed his abilities |
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| 18:46.44 | znf | I feel like SOMETHING HAS SPOOKED ONE OF DE BRUTOSAURS is the definitive quote representing BfA for Horde |
| 18:59.33 | znf | hmm, now that I've ranked up with Ve'nari, I only get 2 quests down from 3? :-/ https://i.imgur.com/Y6QldUp.png |
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| 19:03.08 | DiscordB | <Stanzilla> one is not shown on the map |
| 19:03.27 | DiscordB | <Stanzilla> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326789545586589708/785896971289886760/drittedaily.JPG |
| 19:04.19 | znf | that's not very cash money of them :( |
| 19:09.29 | nevcairiel | that looks like where the hunt is |
| 19:10.34 | znf | Yeah |
| 19:11.06 | znf | Man, I really hate this deal with "optimizing" around the stuff that adds to the eye of the jailer |
| 19:11.34 | nevcairiel | you dont have to do that, i never really did much of that and still have high rep |
| 19:11.42 | znf | but you could have higher :) |
| 19:11.51 | nevcairiel | but it wouldnt get me anything real |
| 19:12.21 | znf | the Thorgast upgrades are nice |
| 19:14.12 | znf | dunno why would they increase the value only when the quest is completed (and not when turned in) |
| 19:14.44 | znf | or why it's not increased while the objective counter is incremented |
| 19:16.52 | znf | not to mention the whole killing of stuff and not getting any increase, as long as you don't land the killing blow |
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| 19:20.10 | znf | Stanzilla, any ideas if Perdition Hold also has a quest that is not shown? |
| 19:25.07 | DiscordB | <Stanzilla> dunno |
| 19:29.43 | znf | Kind of weird to have a new area opened but still only 3 quests :-/ |
| 19:42.17 | Mr_Rabies | well you do 3 quests and kill a rare and the jailer goes full gta 5 stars |
| 19:46.45 | Mr_Rabies | i swear i saw a police helicopter once, but it may have been a well-transmogged demon hunter |
| 20:07.21 | znf | each rare is 500 |
| 20:07.28 | znf | each quest is, also, I think 500 |
| 20:07.51 | nevcairiel | rares are 300, elite rares are 500 |
| 20:12.31 | znf | hahahahaa |
| 20:12.34 | znf | I'm at 5/5 |
| 20:12.41 | znf | I can't complete the Drowned Kyrian quest |
| 20:13.03 | nevcairiel | maybe they fixed it |
| 20:13.26 | znf | yeah |
| 20:13.29 | znf | oh wait |
| 20:13.31 | znf | I'm in a raid, damn it |
| 20:13.35 | nevcairiel | nup |
| 20:13.43 | znf | I turned off my frames to check for that issue, forgot :D |
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| 20:45.44 | Industrial | Is there a Broker plugin that pops out a quest tracker? |
| 20:46.53 | Industrial | And one with a menu for all the panels (the items in the MainMenuBar) including the Tracking minimap button popup menu. |
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| 20:49.59 | znf | there's Broker_MicroMenu for some |
| 20:50.15 | znf | but I don't know for the tracking? |
| 20:50.26 | znf | like, I legit don't know what function you're talking about :D |
| 20:52.06 | Industrial | eh, there's a button around the minimap that allows you to set what things to track (icons) on the minimap. like mail, repair, etc |
| 20:52.24 | Industrial | I'd love to have that menu integrated into the micromenu menu |
| 20:52.48 | Industrial | as an entry named "Tracking" as a submenu :) |
| 20:53.30 | znf | oh... |
| 20:53.34 | znf | well, they're like 10 miles apart |
| 20:53.39 | znf | I was thinking they added a new button somewhere |
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| 21:47.47 | znf | https://streamable.com/y2z420 -- anyone got any idea what could be happening here? :) |
| 21:47.52 | znf | disco trees? |
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| 22:06.09 | VIad | you got an invitation to the vip venthyr disco club how lucky |
| 22:06.09 | Ammako | and they didn't even keep the portal to karazhan in new dalaran either |
| 22:07.06 | VIad | on a side note I wish the phone app could alert me when missions I start ingame finish also, not just those I specifically start from the phone app :< |
| 22:09.04 | Ammako | there's a traffic jam in front of orgrimmar portal in dalaran |
| 22:09.55 | VIad | how can there be a traffic jam? ð
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| 22:10.14 | Ammako | server won't load so everyone is stuck at the portal |
| 22:10.35 | VIad | ah classic. I had similar issue back in cata but servers worked a bit differently with those days phasing tech |
| 22:11.16 | VIad | deepholm portal didnt work because the destination server was offline but it ended up phasing me to the local realm version and kept spamming in chat about zoning failed (had the whole zone for myself was amazing) |
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| 22:18.58 | Chipzz | goddamn, 6 legendary recipes, ALL of them off-spec :S |
| 22:19.09 | Chipzz | not a single useful one |
| 22:22.48 | znf | The only legendary that is decent for my space is in the raid, so... |
| 22:22.48 | znf | :D |
| 22:23.20 | Chipzz | well maybe you at least have the option the craft one for your spec |
| 22:23.39 | Chipzz | I can't even do that |
| 22:23.55 | znf | anything I'd craft would be a waste of Soul Ash |
| 22:24.06 | Chipzz | set loot specialisation to balance, get 2 guardian, 2 resto, 2 feral legendary recipes |
| 22:24.28 | Chipzz | I thought loot spec was supposed to give you loot FOR your spec, not loot /excluding/ it? :( |
| 22:24.46 | VIad | at least each source drops 1 legendary and its not spec dependent so anything off-spec is just future proofing free |
| 22:25.01 | VIad | imagine having 0 legendaries because you are spec bound and nothing dropped yet :P |
| 22:25.49 | Chipzz | which one drops the spec independent ones? |
| 22:26.45 | Chipzz | also my conduits are more of the same; all of my best one are ALL off-spec and my main-spec ones are ALL crap ilvl |
| 22:27.00 | Chipzz | I think RNGesus hates my balls :P |
| 22:27.42 | VIad | yeah. luckily I could spam normal queue as tank for bag + clean run so xav dropped my stuff after 10 runs |
| 22:28.00 | znf | Thankfully it looks like the Memory from raids are guaranteed drops |
| 22:28.26 | Chipzz | unfortunately if you're stuck to LFR |
| 22:28.33 | Chipzz | and your drop is in the last wing... |
| 22:28.35 | znf | Why would I be stuck to LFR |
| 22:28.49 | Chipzz | I'm not in a raiding guild, so stuck in LFR |
| 22:28.50 | znf | Or why would anyone be... |
| 22:28.54 | znf | I'm not in a raiding guild, either |
| 22:29.01 | znf | I PUG heroics every patch |
| 22:29.05 | znf | And some mythics |
| 22:29.07 | Chipzz | guild disbanded quite a while ago |
| 22:29.50 | VIad | reset normal pugs = "lfm full clear req 2k rio or link AOTC" |
| 22:30.36 | znf | I get AOTC in the 1st week with pugs |
| 22:30.44 | Chipzz | znf: good for you |
| 22:30.52 | VIad | znf is so elitist |
| 22:30.56 | Ammako | meanwhile I'm just steamrolling aq40, completely oblivious to all of that stuff |
| 22:30.59 | znf | I mean, it's really not that hard, usually, it's harder than with a guild, honestly |
| 22:31.11 | VIad | pugging is harder than just being in a guild yes |
| 22:31.25 | VIad | its like if your guild was from the memento movie |
| 22:31.34 | VIad | each week start from scratch |
| 22:31.42 | Chipzz | znf: it sounds like your pugging with regulars |
| 22:31.56 | Chipzz | because honestly, my experience with PUGs is entirely different from yours |
| 22:32.07 | znf | Back in 8.2, the first week I think I had ~160+ pulls on the Za'qul |
| 22:32.17 | znf | Chipzz, nah |
| 22:32.28 | znf | Sometimes I manage to get into the same group /after/ the first week, yes |
| 22:32.34 | znf | but first week is fully random |
| 22:32.45 | VIad | my worst pug experience was in a randomly french filled pug group that spoke french and was really immature because I didnt - I hope french people arent that toxic but I remember that experience :p |
| 22:33.01 | Chipzz | VIad: french people ARE that toxic |
| 22:33.15 | Chipzz | VIad: french are the worst chauvinists in the world |
| 22:33.18 | znf | if you do good during the first week, people usually remember you :) |
| 22:33.26 | VIad | you also had poor experience with french pug I guess xD |
| 22:33.38 | Chipzz | VIad: they speak french, and nothing but french. and they speak it everywhere expectingt the rest of the world to understand them |
| 22:33.51 | VIad | wasnt that like france and germany like 15-20 years ago? |
| 22:33.51 | Chipzz | VIad: no, with francophones in general |
| 22:33.56 | VIad | thought things changed by now |
| 22:34.10 | VIad | except that french pug I ended up in during wod but I hope its a minority type situation |
| 22:34.10 | Chipzz | I live in Belgium where 49% are the walloons, francophones |
| 22:34.18 | Chipzz | and boy do these people have a shit attitude |
| 22:34.23 | Ammako | I had a group of french people once who explicitly replied to me in English every time, despite me speaking to them in French |
| 22:35.16 | Chipzz | when the walloons come go to the dutch speaking part of the country, they speak french and expect the flemish to speak french |
| 22:35.17 | znf | Frenchies are weird about their language, but yeah, they speak french and expect everyone to speak it |
| 22:35.20 | VIad | interesting - as far as the game goes it just goes against your time investment to be immature and not helpful if you pug for a raid if you just make it harder by not playing team with your group :P |
| 22:35.20 | znf | Same with russians :D |
| 22:35.43 | Chipzz | when the flemish go to the walloon part of the country, they simply don't bother trying to speak dutch because they know the walloons don't know dutch anyway |
| 22:36.06 | znf | Never seen something like that in regards to the germans, for example |
| 22:36.10 | VIad | like during timewalking event some weeks ago we ended up on a poorly scaled boss in tbc and people started blaming and votekicking each other practically wasting like 30 min queue instead of just getting over it and putting 1 min worth of effort to figure it out :D |
| 22:36.14 | znf | They always try to speak english in games |
| 22:36.25 | znf | Even if some do it poorly, they at least try to |
| 22:36.48 | VIad | I only remember at airports france and germany had no english signs even but back then they were maybe more secluded or something? dunno |
| 22:37.09 | Chipzz | you know what makes me *puke*? Belgium is a 2-language country. let it be clear, the french speaking are the MINORITY in bemlgium (coontrary to popula belief). YET, in walloon, dutch is an optional course, while in flanders, french is mandatory |
| 22:37.19 | Chipzz | and all the walloons opt out of dutch classes |
| 22:37.24 | VIad | I just figured by now english would be more common since we all grow up with it now even if you wouldnt learn it at school, you'd learn it from everything else, atl east if you do computer related stuff |
| 22:37.40 | znf | I was hoping that would be the case, too |
| 22:37.45 | znf | But I'm actually seeing quite the opposite :-/ |
| 22:37.47 | Chipzz | so the minority refuses to speak the language of the majority while the majority is forced to learn the minoritys language |
| 22:37.52 | VIad | who uses an OS set to their local language lol? |
| 22:37.59 | znf | French |
| 22:38.00 | znf | :D |
| 22:38.00 | VIad | unless that language is english :p |
| 22:38.54 | znf | I had a friend recently set up a new computer for a ~12-13yo kid |
| 22:38.55 | Chipzz | sorry if this is racist, but IME, french are *the* *worst* |
| 22:39.04 | znf | He wanted his Windows set to Romanian |
| 22:39.10 | VIad | :pepehands: |
| 22:39.12 | znf | And neither me or him could understand anything about of it |
| 22:39.51 | znf | He couldn't figure something out and I logged on via teamviewer, I also couldn't find it :D |
| 22:39.57 | Chipzz | znf: well at least that means you won't have to provide tech support |
| 22:39.58 | Chipzz | ;) |
| 22:40.19 | Chipzz | or maybe you will and will have a very hard time with it, that's possible too :p |
| 22:40.26 | VIad | bonus with latest windows versions is display language is actually easy to setup, you dont need to install from a language specific installation anymore |
| 22:40.42 | znf | I barely offert tech support to my mother |
| 22:40.46 | Chipzz | VIad: welcome to linux in 1995 :P |
| 22:41.07 | VIad | to be fair that os is designed to be packet oriented |
| 22:41.37 | znf | was 1995 the first year of the linux desktop? :D |
| 22:42.35 | znf | ...who the hell categorizes a quest item as an Explosive device damn it https://i.imgur.com/Dm4h3yK.png |
| 22:43.17 | Chipzz | znf: nah, but linux has had gettext support right from the start |
| 22:43.33 | znf | I know :) |
| 22:43.34 | VIad | each time I am like "hopefully there will be less crap items filling my bags this expansion" everytime I get disapointed. luckily most of this expac junk has a duration hehe |
| 22:44.12 | VIad | still some stuff being unique and mailed to you making the mailbox experience horrid like alwayus |
| 22:44.37 | znf | which unique item would that be, VIad? https://i.imgur.com/hL4yS07.png |
| 22:45.11 | VIad | for me I keep getting golden wings in bastion from a daily rare in my farm route :p |
| 22:45.30 | Chipzz | ARGH |
| 22:45.47 | znf | I farmed The Avowed rep |
| 22:45.48 | Chipzz | my 2 legendary recipes from the raid drop from.... the last 2 bosses |
| 22:45.58 | znf | I ended up with 86 mails from the postmaster |
| 22:46.00 | Chipzz | *cringes* |
| 22:46.46 | Chipzz | so either I wait 4 weeks for all wings to open or I try to PUG upto the last boss |
| 22:48.26 | VIad | I can recommend to study some fight videos in advance and try hook onto the early week pugs as it gets harder in the weekend and impossible when next week starts |
| 22:48.45 | znf | best way to pug is first day |
| 22:48.56 | znf | weekend pugging kind of sucks |
| 22:48.59 | VIad | join streamer raid group |
| 22:49.02 | Chipzz | problem is I have low ilvl too |
| 22:49.10 | znf | I always do it on reset day |
| 22:49.16 | znf | well... that's on you :P |
| 22:49.31 | znf | oh, wow |
| 22:49.37 | VIad | there are tons of those "WTS boost" ads in the group finder you could utilize |
| 22:49.37 | znf | someone fucked up the market for Iridescent Amberjack |
| 22:49.44 | znf | I was hoping I'd sell at 90g/ea |
| 22:49.48 | znf | it dropped to... 17g/ea |
| 22:49.49 | znf | :-| |
| 22:49.50 | znf | wtf |
| 22:50.46 | Chipzz | I think I'll just go tank |
| 22:50.54 | znf | bigger responsability :) |
| 22:51.11 | Chipzz | yeah but you can get away with lower ilvl :p |
| 22:51.57 | VIad | join streamer raid just use your free sub thing and put in the message you really want to be in their first raid group or smth |
| 22:52.20 | znf | god, there's that Stealth quest again in Maldraxxus |
| 22:52.25 | znf | just.. why |
| 22:53.10 | znf | can't use any spell, just... walk 500+ yards |
| 22:53.17 | znf | stealth breaks = you're fucked |
| 22:53.42 | VIad | people usually have to paid for such services, how nice for it to be free! |
| 22:56.23 | znf | ah yes, and when you finish the quest |
| 22:56.24 | znf | you drop stealth |
| 22:56.28 | znf | into a big pack of elites, why not |
| 22:56.45 | znf | and you can't "strategic retreat", because you end in combat instantly |
| 22:57.00 | VIad | its the penalty for not being an immortal tank or NE with shadowmeld |
| 22:57.33 | znf | It's like there was one guy on the quest design team that decided he just hates players |
| 22:58.04 | VIad | he knew he was being let go in 3 months when his contract expired so why not make some challenges |
| 22:58.07 | znf | And he comes up with these horribly done quests that just want to punish the hell out of you |
| 22:59.57 | VIad | remember in EU when during legion the r3 prolonged power wboss spawned on US reset by accident and blizz hotfixed him out and then it didnt spawn again until blizz made a post about its working fine, then next week they made a post about a fixed rotation of wbosses and only then did the wboss spawn again for the r3 recipe like 1.5 years later |
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| 23:24.59 | znf | Good thing I realized /after/ I've done most of the WQs that my Contract expired |
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| 23:33.33 | Chipzz | ah I finally got the balance legendary recipe from the dungeons at least |
| 23:33.39 | Chipzz | :) |
