| 00:47.20 | foxlit | "Lashes out against all adjacent enemies in melee, dealing 1 Arcane damage" << who does that hit? |
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| 01:02.12 | foxlit | if you answered "the closest target and the ranged unit standing immediately to its right, but not the melee unit immediately to its left", congratulations. |
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| 01:36.25 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/VZfqPUS.png |
| 01:36.33 | znf | the cost is simply ridiculous |
| 01:36.40 | znf | that's more than 1 day of doing fucking WQs |
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| 02:19.38 | Ammako_ | https://i.imgur.com/ka1pt8G.png |
| 02:19.44 | Ammako_ | I disagree with this picture |
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| 07:01.59 | AcidWeb | znf: Just don't heal them. |
| 07:02.14 | AcidWeb | And leave them for few hours. |
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| 12:49.34 | znf | AcidWeb: but I don't want to leave them for a few hours |
| 12:49.46 | znf | I've got missions to do! |
| 12:52.02 | foxlit | is there something that prevents you from just perpetually sending them out at 1hp? |
| 13:01.55 | znf | foxlit, I did, and I think they died almost instantly |
| 13:02.28 | foxlit | do the troops complete the mission anyway, or? |
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| 13:09.37 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/gZQTMpi.png |
| 13:09.40 | znf | healed for +19 |
| 13:09.43 | znf | gotta be shitting me |
| 13:11.34 | znf | I'm at the point that I can't send my lowbies to BonusXP missions, because the mobs hit for 200+ |
| 13:12.58 | znf | my Healer heals for 19, while enemies hit for 200+ |
| 13:13.01 | znf | amazing |
| 13:14.15 | AcidWeb | TIL there are healers. |
| 13:16.00 | znf | yeah, go see the Fae |
| 13:16.09 | znf | they have healers that actually heal |
| 13:16.29 | znf | I've lost a mission... now I'm annoyed and scared to send them anywhere else |
| 13:16.56 | AcidWeb | Don't be scared. If they die they die. |
| 13:17.12 | AcidWeb | I'm ready for theirs sacrifice. |
| 13:17.27 | AcidWeb | Somebody need to get that skins for 90g or 35 anima. |
| 13:21.48 | znf | I want the 105 soul ash mission... |
| 13:22.21 | AcidWeb | That mission is not doing anything progress wise. |
| 13:22.47 | znf | 110* |
| 13:22.56 | znf | one-two missions a week will do :P |
| 13:26.16 | znf | I don't know how to read this log that adcap does |
| 13:27.08 | znf | ie: no idea what the event types mean |
| 13:37.49 | foxlit | could be worse; you could be playing spot-the-differences in https://hastebin.com/doxafozunu.css |
| 13:39.49 | foxlit | cH>940-->4 ; oops, undead. |
| 13:49.08 | znf | are the Faes completing soul ash missions? |
| 13:49.10 | znf | nevcairiel? :D |
| 13:49.36 | znf | or foxlit, you have the data! |
| 13:49.43 | nevcairiel | it was still running when i was last online |
| 13:49.54 | foxlit | The thing takes forever, but probably yes. |
| 13:50.33 | foxlit | I see a nerf in the future. |
| 13:50.39 | znf | Can we get a buff instead? |
| 13:50.49 | znf | So my healer does more than 19 every 4 turns? |
| 13:53.56 | foxlit | do you remember what your healer ability is called? |
| 14:01.18 | foxlit | so your healer applies a 4-turn HoT every 4 turns that heals everyone in the group. |
| 14:04.51 | foxlit | which under ideal circumstances is probably slightly better than the NF healing. |
| 14:05.26 | foxlit | (as it currently is -- but I also think they accidentially forgot to scale down direct heals.) |
| 14:06.28 | znf | foxlit, https://i.imgur.com/gZQTMpi.png |
| 14:06.35 | znf | "Spirit of Rejuvenation" |
| 14:06.45 | znf | healing for 19 is not... "slightly better" at this point |
| 14:07.01 | znf | my troops get hit for 88, and healed for 19... |
| 14:07.38 | foxlit | and get healed for 19 again the next turn, and the next, and the turn after that. |
| 14:08.32 | foxlit | (at least that how I read it's supposed to work; I haven't actually checked) |
| 14:11.30 | foxlit | NF healing, meanwhile, heals you for 150 on turn 1 (before anyone takes any damage!) and then goes on cooldown. |
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| 14:27.13 | Gnarfoz | seems like a well-thought out system :D |
| 14:39.52 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: that's great to know, I'll just put my 1 hp champions top left (just sent all 3 of them on an ill-fated level 24 mission, they're 18/17/14), put two healers next to them, and 2 melee troops in the other 2 spots - should leave me with fully healed champions :D |
| 14:49.34 | nevcairiel | my mission-completing-gods failed, that 12000 life campaign mission was too much for a level 16 hero :P |
| 14:55.50 | znf | I think what bugs me the most about this system is that you don't get a % anymore |
| 14:56.12 | znf | The previous ones were fine, like, OK, I'm gonna send my troops on a 15% success chance mission, I know I'll fail |
| 15:02.05 | znf | But this one has some icons and you gotta do some napkin math if you fail or not... |
| 15:18.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even sure what that math is |
| 15:19.03 | Gnarfoz | not euclidian, apparently? ^^ |
| 15:29.19 | Gnarfoz | https://www.hddf.eu/p/kdNgafD9o5.png lag problems? nahhh :D |
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| 17:33.51 | foxlit | so there's this effect: "Bites into the closest enemy, dealing 10 Shadow damage, and causing the target to bleed for 5 for three turns." (placeholder numbers) |
| 17:35.31 | foxlit | it deals 10+5 damage, then 0 damage, then 0 damage, then 0 damage, then 5 damage. |
| 17:38.31 | foxlit | *one 0 too many there |
| 17:40.08 | znf | should I even bother wasting a day for this? https://i.imgur.com/iiaMe48.png |
| 17:40.12 | znf | like... what are my chances |
| 17:42.12 | znf | also, foxlit, any ideas how they swap target after the "furthest" target is dead? |
| 17:42.17 | znf | farthest* |
| 17:42.44 | foxlit | it targets the next farthest target. |
| 17:42.50 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/OSwvFNp.png |
| 17:42.58 | znf | like, all 3 will hit that furthest one |
| 17:43.37 | znf | but, if that doesn't exist anymore, I'm assuming they'll swap to their farthest, which won't necesarily be the same |
| 17:43.47 | foxlit | yes |
| 17:44.36 | znf | I have no mission to simulate something like that :-/ |
| 17:45.35 | znf | can I do some magical command to alter the display and remove the unit from there? |
| 17:46.34 | foxlit | haven't checked, probably not. |
| 17:46.52 | znf | :-/ how the hell am I supposed to know which, then, lol |
| 17:48.07 | foxlit | Psychic powers, copious notes, or addons. |
| 17:48.31 | znf | cool, when's the addon ready? :D |
| 17:49.21 | foxlit | you could also guess -- it's sort-of-like the picture, but not always. |
| 17:49.46 | znf | tempted to go like this https://i.imgur.com/TUXyKov.png |
| 17:51.15 | znf | but that "Wave of Eternal Death" is simply bullshit :-/ |
| 17:51.40 | znf | fuck it, only sending 1 useless follower |
| 18:02.57 | foxlit | ... it's possible for a unit to decide not to attack anything. |
| 18:03.51 | znf | great |
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| 18:17.37 | znf | Are there no more portals to Thunderbluff anywhere? O.o |
| 18:18.01 | Ammako | mages :> |
| 18:18.16 | znf | So the plebs gotta pleb? o.o |
| 18:18.41 | znf | I'll never understand the obsession with removing QoL stuff from the game |
| 18:23.50 | Ammako | take the portal to zuldazar |
| 18:24.07 | Ammako | and thunder bluff is behind you |
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| 18:42.25 | Gnarfoz | znf: makes the world too small, or something! you need to spend more time in game! :P |
| 18:43.14 | znf | Sorry. My 8 days of /played at this level are not enough? |
| 18:57.35 | nevcairiel | I dont think they removed any portals in 9.0 |
| 18:57.41 | nevcairiel | its how it was for 2 years now |
| 18:59.33 | Ammako | only 8? |
| 18:59.45 | znf | The Darkmoon stuff only has cards from last expansion? |
| 19:14.58 | znf | [21:14:46] Your skill in Legion Engineering has increased to 40. |
| 19:15.00 | znf | ok, darkmoon... |
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| 20:23.06 | VIad | nice of them to help you oldest to newest content, so get your legion up, then bfa, so you can start getting SL skill ^^ |
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| 20:38.46 | Industrial | Hi. I have two quetions: 1) Is there a gear manager addon that works for 9.0? 2) Is there a spec manager addon that can swap gear sets on spec change and save several spec configurations? |
| 20:40.18 | znf | gear manager addon? |
| 20:40.25 | znf | what's wrong with the in-game profile thingie? |
| 20:42.52 | znf | FUCK THIS QUEST WITH THE VOID PORTALS |
| 20:43.45 | znf | Only quest I die every fucking time |
| 20:43.54 | znf | And takes 2 eons to complete |
| 20:46.33 | Industrial | znf: nothing per se. I always enjoyed using Outfitter. |
| 20:46.41 | Industrial | I see there's ItemRack for 9.0 tho |
| 20:52.00 | znf | this, this freakin' quest https://www.wowhead.com/quest=59804/gateways-of-horror |
| 21:00.45 | VIad | znf: some of them have long click range and people go outside and close it, but it ends up spawning many waves of mobs in one spot that will prob wipe you unless you are a tank that want to clear out the stack :P |
| 21:01.15 | VIad | if multiple people are doing it just click once your channel does ticks of dmg and it counts as tagging it if you tick once, so you can let others get their casts in to tag it also |
| 21:01.39 | VIad | but yes its a messy quest by design if you ask me could have been a bit better |
| 21:04.48 | znf | they could, maybe, here's an idea, NOT SPAWN ELITES with 150k HP? |
| 21:08.22 | nevcairiel | the portals act like mobs, they have life and tapping, if you just tap it once by channeling for a second, you can just fight them enemies and even if someone else finishes the portal you get credit |
| 21:09.04 | nevcairiel | there is usually enough people around to just kill everything that spawns |
| 21:14.14 | znf | when I usually do it I'm either alone or just 1 other guy |
| 21:14.49 | znf | now there were 2 guys, both tanks, they both died, then I died, because all the mobs went on to me |
| 21:15.40 | znf | and yes, I do realize all it takes is a tick |
| 21:15.46 | znf | but the tick is not instant |
| 21:16.05 | znf | I keep getting hit before the first tick |
| 21:16.40 | znf | I tried fearing them so I could get a tick, but that only made things worse :D |
| 21:17.12 | VIad | issue is those portals they managed to stack like 20 waves of mobs, in that case try find the max range you can be to click it to avoid aggro and death |
| 21:17.45 | znf | yeah, shit's too close together |
| 21:19.48 | VIad | they should just despawn if not killed within a timer after spawn to avoid potential server issues. imagine if a portal is stacked and no one kills it, Im curious how many mobs you can get to spawn hehe |
| 21:20.26 | znf | wait -- did we have Kel'Thuzad in Maldraxxus? |
| 21:22.02 | VIad | is he in human form or lich? not sure how the afterlife works if you start in one physical form and get cursed and have it altered, since your "soul" then technically was originally human I guess he is human? |
| 21:22.15 | znf | The quest says: |
| 21:22.15 | znf | [23:19:59] Baroness Draka says: Margrave Sin'dane has asked for our assistance in dealing with allies of Kel'Thuzad. Make them pay! |
| 21:22.32 | znf | but I don't recall anything about him being said so far? |
| 21:23.14 | VIad | I just assumed blizz put in tons of previously dead bad guys and good guys in the SL zones |
| 21:23.19 | znf | Kel'Thuzad's soul ascended to Maldraxxus, where he quickly became a member of the House of Rituals. Though it is unknown whether or not he ascended as a Lich or as a Human, Kel'thuzad's appearance is identical to that of his previous ones in his lich form. As a member of the House of Rituals, he grew close to Margrave Sin'dane, and eventually managed to rise as one of the Barons of the house. Using his influence, he cast a shadow of doubt over the |
| 21:23.19 | znf | Margrave after the disappearance of the Primus; leading to Sin'dane taking his counsel above all others. This allowed him to manipulate the politics of Maldraxxus into working against the wishes of the Primus to turn the realm towards conquest, rather than defense of the afterlife. |
| 21:24.10 | znf | I don't recall any of this |
| 21:27.04 | foxlit | campaign stuff, probably. |
| 21:27.32 | foxlit | maybe tangentially mentioned by Vashj? |
| 21:28.58 | foxlit | "Stabs the closest enemy twice, dealing 10 Physical damage with the first knife and and 5 with the second. "<< what do you think happens when the target dies from the first stab? |
| 21:29.22 | nevcairiel | stabs himself into the knee |
| 21:36.20 | znf | goes off a tea break? |
| 21:36.29 | znf | They are Venthyr... |
| 22:00.58 | foxlit | your casters are stabby. |
| 22:01.32 | foxlit | which is kind of causing a headache because the normal follower functions don't tell you they're a troop. |
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| 22:16.13 | znf | wait, what, how |
| 22:27.57 | foxlit | they auto-attack the closest target, not the farthest. |
| 22:31.09 | foxlit | also I have no idea what Theotar is doing. The "to all enemies at range." spell hits a target in the enemy front row, but only on the second cast. |
| 22:36.19 | znf | So you're saying Venthyr is crap? |
| 22:36.57 | foxlit | no, I'm saying Venthyr is weird. |
| 22:37.59 | znf | I read that as crap :D |
| 22:39.15 | Mr_Rabies | the venthyr have made it pretty clear they do whatever they want unless a sinstone is involved |
| 22:39.23 | znf | anyway, what you're telling me so far is that at least half the abilities' tooltips don't match to what they actually do |
| 22:40.40 | foxlit | that has been the case for everything so far. |
| 22:41.03 | znf | cool |
| 22:41.11 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason that caused a little spark in my brain, and now i think i would love an rpg that was kino's journey-esque, with wildly different situations in each country |
| 22:41.34 | Mr_Rabies | shadowlands isn't entirely different from that, but the difference is in wow you gotta solve all the problems |
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| 23:09.35 | znf | Jumping in random places: https://i.imgur.com/WxYOniE.png |
| 23:09.36 | znf | thanks guys |
| 23:18.36 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/yPwcZfM.png who do you think is the farthest? |
| 23:30.39 | Ammako | why do particles still lag the game so much |
| 23:43.58 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: BtWLoadouts |
| 23:47.16 | foxlit | so I noticed that nobody is playing kyrian or maldraxxi missions |
| 23:49.05 | nevcairiel | how many people are you even getting things from? :D |
| 23:49.31 | nevcairiel | that said we have no maldraxxi in our guild, but kyrians are fairly represented |
| 23:50.31 | foxlit | I can't distinguish people, so dunno. |
| 23:50.53 | nevcairiel | is it just me, znf, and maybe the foz? :D |
| 23:51.25 | znf | I'm venthyr |
| 23:51.31 | znf | Nev is fae |
| 23:51.40 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz is also fae, i believe |
| 23:51.45 | znf | Foz is..? |
| 23:51.46 | znf | Ah |
| 23:52.25 | znf | Make it an weakaura :P |
| 23:52.31 | znf | Export json |
| 23:52.38 | znf | Allow copy/paste |
| 23:52.52 | znf | That's what's needed these days :( |
| 23:56.15 | foxlit | I don't think it's so much an addon vs weakauras thing, as asking a limited audience to do something with no direct benefit to themselves. |
