| 00:05.14 | Crosshash | When's the last time you tried it? |
| 00:06.46 | znf | 30 seconds ago |
| 00:06.53 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/8q6mw7u.png |
| 00:07.04 | znf | left one group who wasn't doing the quest anymore, joined again |
| 00:07.35 | znf | and 5 minutes ago |
| 00:08.07 | znf | https://www.wowhead.com/quest=61765/words-of-warding#comments:id=3264406 |
| 00:08.14 | Funkeh` | oh yeah i noticed that too |
| 00:08.48 | znf | is this quest weekly or daily? |
| 00:09.37 | znf | because right now I feel like I want to smash my new monitor in frustration with this quest/phasing |
| 00:12.19 | Crosshash | That's not a bug within the Maw |
| 00:12.50 | znf | Are you telling me that we're not allowed to group up in the Maw? |
| 00:12.51 | znf | Or? |
| 00:13.06 | znf | Or we're supposed to group up only on our shard? |
| 00:13.12 | Crosshash | Yeah, basically |
| 00:13.37 | znf | Then why does the quest have a "Find Group" button? |
| 00:13.46 | znf | How am I supposed to know which group in the premade finder is on my shard? |
| 00:14.37 | Crosshash | You can't. I don't have answers, just telling you it's not a bug. |
| 00:18.24 | znf | I'm not demanding answers, I'm just... baffled |
| 00:23.09 | nebula | it was a change that happened after launch |
| 00:30.50 | znf | I get it, but it makes grouping up in a MMO annoying |
| 00:43.31 | znf | There's no way I'm paying that much to heal https://i.imgur.com/DTchNQX.png |
| 00:45.37 | Mr_Rabies | just put her on an easy mission with a healer attached |
| 00:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | ohh, you don't have a healer troop, interesting |
| 00:45.55 | znf | she's the healer |
| 00:46.02 | znf | nope, venthyr doesn't |
| 00:46.08 | znf | we got melee and ranged |
| 00:46.26 | Mr_Rabies | night fae is pretty nice then, i just throw a healer in every party lol |
| 00:46.53 | Ketho | apparently 1 hour before I found the dead blanchy id it was already hotfixed to some other sound https://wow.tools/dbc/hotfixes.php?search=pushid:60723 |
| 00:47.52 | znf | I want to queue for a Heroic dungeon, but I'm 99.99% sure that someone (probably the tank) will leave after first or 2nd boss and I'm gonna get annoyed |
| 00:50.32 | Mr_Rabies | i stopped pugging stuff back in like mop |
| 00:50.38 | Mr_Rabies | if i can't do it with my guild, i don't do it |
| 00:52.27 | nebula | yea, i wish they only put legendaries on the last boss, that shit is annoying |
| 00:52.50 | nebula | trying to level an alt with dungeons is awful |
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| 01:47.07 | Mr_Rabies | is there any kind of event or anything to track recovering your stygia? |
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| 03:21.26 | znf | you have a dead icon on the map? |
| 03:22.00 | znf | also, I call BS on the fact that you can get the bombing in the maw at the same time as the wingy-boy and you can't move out so there goes half of your HP |
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| 04:21.38 | Mr_Rabies | was gonna track it to make a meme weakaura to make myself laugh, znf |
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| 04:54.27 | MooreaTv | globe thinks 11306 is outdated ('Outdated interface version flag in addon; using 11305 instead.') |
| 04:56.09 | MooreaTv | (for instance https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:a593b6041dc9527c75554041083c694c ) |
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| 06:07.40 | znf | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/k5ef66/torghast_needs_a_recap_screen_after_completing_a/ |
| 06:07.45 | znf | This sounds like a nice idea for an addon |
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| 07:10.35 | Mr_Rabies | i still think the breadcrumb thing is a good idea, i wonder if there's just a general purpose one that would work in there |
| 07:10.43 | Mr_Rabies | that just marks your path on the minimap |
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| 10:14.10 | foxlit | heh, rude, the covenant campaign quest just gives you an adventurer without warning |
| 10:30.54 | Mr_Rabies | i'm in night fae so it was like this https://64.media.tumblr.com/4753e2cc1a995da3454bb829bd06b3ef/tumblr_nr6kyovwBN1rztjsno1_540.png |
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| 10:41.07 | Mr_Rabies | also wow the mobile app has so much more info for the missions |
| 10:41.57 | Mr_Rabies | like, i had no clue the melee icon meant that a unit could only attack in melee except special attacks, and i still don't really know what the healer icon means because i have what is certainly a ranged dps unit using one |
| 10:42.06 | Mr_Rabies | er, "adventures" |
| 10:45.04 | foxlit | did anything ever say what "melee" means? |
| 10:45.54 | foxlit | like are all melee units automatically in melee? is your front row in melee against the opponents' back row? if your front row is empty, is your back row in melee? |
| 10:48.43 | foxlit | or perhaps the melee icon just means that the unit auto-attacks the closest enemy. |
| 10:48.44 | Mr_Rabies | err rather i explained it poorly, it says "Auto Attack: Deal attack damage to the closest enemy" |
| 10:49.43 | Mr_Rabies | whereas the ranged icon and this one healer icon i have says "Auto Attack: Deal damage to an enemy at range" |
| 10:50.08 | Mr_Rabies | and each unit has an attack rating, etc |
| 10:50.16 | foxlit | well, the stats you can see in-game. |
| 10:51.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's also really bad at "healing the closest ally" it seems like it just wants to heal an ally to the immediate left, and if that's not an option, heal one left and above |
| 10:51.41 | foxlit | I strongly suspect your team grid is misaligned. |
| 10:51.44 | foxlit | to everything. |
| 10:52.10 | Mr_Rabies | which makes positioning awkward when you have an ally that makes all adjacent units do more damage |
| 10:52.46 | Mr_Rabies | and they have to be shoved into the back row not adjacent to at least 1 unit since they're ranged, as well, with lower health |
| 10:53.45 | foxlit | "have to" is maybe an over-compensation. |
| 10:55.31 | Mr_Rabies | kinda hope the adventure grid gets a bit more space at some point, the 5 spots really seems to make the strategy thing kinda useless |
| 10:57.29 | Mr_Rabies | also can i get helicopters and tanks like peace walker thanks https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4_LM9z9NqlY/maxresdefault.jpg |
| 10:59.10 | Mr_Rabies | people keep saying autochess but someone absolutely is looking at MGS since the garrison itself is kind of a streamlined Mother Base from Peace Walker/MGSV |
| 11:02.23 | Mr_Rabies | https://youtu.be/fZXdCunDe_A?t=198 |
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| 12:31.07 | Maldivia | hmm, topic could use a refresh, ToC is a bit outdated by now :D |
| 12:31.34 | znf | Mr_Rabies: but there are "breadcrumbs" |
| 12:31.50 | znf | There's that "fog" on the map |
| 12:57.55 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/1dlrwquz.mp4 << what is this nonsense? |
| 13:00.01 | AcidWeb | Don't play with or you will go blind. |
| 13:18.39 | znf | This is ridiculous https://i.imgur.com/hL72cmj.png |
| 13:19.44 | znf | They were 19, now they're 14 |
| 13:20.40 | nevcairiel | the impact from that isnt as big as you think, just keep doing missions |
| 13:21.02 | znf | it's still feels bad |
| 13:21.19 | foxlit | how big is the impact from that? |
| 13:21.45 | nevcairiel | on my mission success? pretty much non existant |
| 13:22.07 | foxlit | you succeed at everything if you attempt nothing. |
| 13:22.16 | foxlit | on the range of missions you're able to do. |
| 13:22.17 | znf | I don't know! The last time I completed a Campaign mission, they were 18 |
| 13:22.35 | znf | Now I have another campaign one and they're 14, I'm afraid to try the same thing I did last time |
| 13:23.07 | nevcairiel | afraid? as if you can lose anything |
| 13:23.24 | Ennea | i don't even know what that mission thingy is about, but from all the screenshots i've seen so far, it just looks like a shitty minigame on the side |
| 13:23.37 | znf | time! :D |
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| 13:49.30 | Gnarfoz | re: sharding/grouping in The Maw, nebula, znf: the change after release was to not enforce this for all SL zones (like it was initially) but to restrict it to max level The Maw |
| 13:56.32 | znf | why have grouping in a MMO, then, if I have to coordinate at this level? |
| 13:57.05 | znf | this will just make me do more things solo, as I don't want the headache to re-zone every time I group up |
| 13:57.06 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I assume wanting to combat server hopping for some reason |
| 13:57.26 | znf | might as well go back to realm restrictions, then |
| 13:57.35 | znf | at least I know I can group with my own people there |
| 13:58.04 | nevcairiel | i assume the intention is for you to group for the entire tour of the maw before going in |
| 13:58.14 | nevcairiel | which is your best course anyway |
| 13:59.04 | znf | I don't really want to do that tough |
| 13:59.47 | znf | I want to do my quests first, without having people to wait for me, or me waiting for them, at my own pace |
| 13:59.56 | znf | Then I want to group up to do the rares |
| 14:00.08 | nevcairiel | then go back out after the quests and look for a group? :P |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | even on my tiny server there is even enough people that just do any rare i encounter without grouping |
| 14:00.48 | nevcairiel | at the very least they join in when i pull |
| 14:01.03 | znf | you're a tank... |
| 14:01.26 | znf | if I pull a big rare, I get splat in a few hits, I can't afford the same level of relaxation you have getting slapped in the face :D |
| 14:02.42 | znf | I had to group up yesterday for that assasin cloak quest |
| 14:02.52 | znf | I had to leave and re-join The Maw 3 times until I found one |
| 14:03.15 | znf | one* that didn't result in me dying 10 times |
| 14:43.06 | Gnarfoz | I didn't realize I was on some older version of OPie, now that Forge_User_16328612, I mean foxlit, has abandoned CF :C |
| 14:44.24 | Gnarfoz | took the time to find the relevant blog post (your tendency to try and make things as unfindable as possible didn't help) and read it as qwell |
| 14:44.40 | Gnarfoz | the assertion that not opting out equals opting in was only true for non-EU users, btw |
| 14:45.51 | foxlit | for any other addon, it's linked from the addon description. |
| 14:46.34 | Gnarfoz | indeed, I was going to complain that you didn't put a link to either your own addon page or your blog post in the addon description on CF :P |
| 14:46.56 | AcidWeb | Do you distribute OPie anywhere else than your page? |
| 14:47.08 | foxlit | no |
| 14:47.41 | Gnarfoz | (but it's a more general stance you seem to have; your blog does not have an index, your domain's top level page only links do a few things that are there, hardly all of them; you prefix links you post here with spaces so they don't get logged by purl, etc :D -- I think I understand, but it's just... inconvenient! :P) |
| 14:48.06 | AcidWeb | is this page have any form of api that can be used to check for latest version? |
| 14:48.19 | AcidWeb | other than scraping the page |
| 14:48.30 | Gnarfoz | AcidWeb: I was going to pester you about what it would required to add his page to CurseBreaker, but it seems you're already on it! :P |
| 14:48.40 | foxlit | I don't so much have a blog as a box I sometimes put things in. |
| 14:48.41 | Gnarfoz | (still loving it btw!) |
| 14:49.32 | AcidWeb | Gnarfoz: OW migration screwed it badly. Marking that many popular addons as abandoned really screwed my backend. |
| 14:49.50 | AcidWeb | But if it still work for you it should not break. |
| 14:50.07 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: "quick action if mouse remains still" is great! thanks for putting that in :) |
| 14:50.45 | Gnarfoz | AcidWeb: you're filtering those out? or what's causing problems? |
| 14:51.10 | AcidWeb | Parts of api stopped returning data about them. |
| 14:53.25 | foxlit | AcidWeb: not at the moment; it's something I'm still thinking about, but it's not the first thing on the list. |
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| 14:55.21 | AcidWeb | Well as user I would kindly ask to use WoWI if you don't plan to update CF releases. |
| 14:55.26 | AcidWeb | Or GH releases. |
| 14:55.33 | AcidWeb | Anything that can be automated. |
| 14:57.48 | AcidWeb | (Or even tukui.org) |
| 15:23.00 | znf | wait, I have to update opie mnually? :o |
| 15:23.34 | znf | what have you done :( |
| 15:24.46 | foxlit | About 6 times a year. |
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| 16:40.43 | znf | How does this Ember Court even work |
| 16:41.58 | znf | I did the trial, I picked up the 3 quests, I completed all of them, I used the item |
| 16:42.10 | znf | But now ?? |
| 16:42.20 | znf | Temel is not offering me any quest |
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| 17:23.58 | znf | Another bullshit The Maw thing: PvP at the exit of Ve'nari's refuge |
| 17:24.14 | znf | You can't see/attack them until you are out of the protected area, and then it's too late |
| 17:24.51 | znf | You have no chance of surviving because by the time they're attackable, you are dead |
| 17:29.36 | znf | oh, and it seems the "pvp protection" of losing just a tiny bit of Stygia doesn't always apply |
| 17:29.41 | znf | I lost 143 (about 20% of my total) |
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| 18:45.10 | znf | foxlit, where do you want the file from AD? |
| 18:46.32 | znf | also, does this mean they don't attack, or wtf? https://i.imgur.com/E9svkaA.png |
| 18:47.04 | nevcairiel | they still have an auto attack |
| 18:47.11 | nevcairiel | just no attack ability |
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| 23:24.49 | Gnarfoz | mythic dungeon lockout is loot-only, right? |
| 23:38.23 | nebula | yea |
