| 00:10.14 | znf | foxlit, is there no way to automate the new mission table, with % and shit? |
| 00:12.25 | Elmoe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:35.48 | Yuyuli | how come the soulbind tree crap is not for your current spec |
| 04:35.53 | Yuyuli | who greenlighted this crap |
| 04:36.04 | Yuyuli | :( |
| 04:36.42 | Yuyuli | or am missing something |
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| 11:35.55 | Gnarfoz | AcidWeb: I get the "This integration supports only the projects that provide packaged releases." message when trying to install https://github.com/GurliGebis/AngryWorldQuests - but this has releases? are "packaged releases" something else? can you elaborate on the requirements? |
| 11:36.34 | AcidWeb | zip files with packaged addon |
| 11:36.43 | AcidWeb | same as would be hosted on CF |
| 11:37.36 | Gnarfoz | so... it inspects the zip content? |
| 11:38.11 | Gnarfoz | (looking at the zip, the contained folder name is wrong since it does not match the .toc file name) |
| 11:39.25 | nevcairiel | those releases have no "zip", they only have the automatic source-control based package |
| 11:40.12 | Gnarfoz | hm ok, no idea how to do that (not my repo anyway) |
| 11:40.26 | Gnarfoz | but I guess it needs to show up under "packages" not under "releases" here? https://hddf.eu/p/ktjzXfOOrn.png |
| 11:41.02 | nevcairiel | <https://github.com/Nevcairiel/Bartender4/releases/tag/4.10.6> this has uploaded packages |
| 11:41.21 | nevcairiel | as you can see, there is more files then the automatic source code things |
| 11:42.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I see |
| 11:42.30 | Gnarfoz | some have the box icon, some have the zipper icon |
| 11:42.54 | Gnarfoz | OTOH, your repo page does not even have the "packages" bit on the right hand side |
| 11:46.37 | nevcairiel | the package thing on github is for something else |
| 11:47.01 | nevcairiel | its for package manegement things afaik, docker, npm, etc |
| 11:47.41 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 11:47.46 | Gnarfoz | git pull it is |
| 11:47.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:49.29 | AcidWeb | Generally all third party updaters reached the conclusion that messing with bare git repos are not worth the time. |
| 11:49.54 | AcidWeb | And expect from maintainers to provide proper packaged releases. |
| 11:53.01 | Gnarfoz | I was just reading through https://github.com/GurliGebis/AngryWorldQuests/issues/5 where users make it sound like WowUp and Ajour do not expect that; but... users, like me, probably don't understand the difference. :P |
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| 11:54.27 | Gnarfoz | the docs for both WowUp and Ajour mention "packaged zip file" and "specifically named asset" -- without going into what that means, heh |
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| 12:29.03 | nebula | something other than the git archives |
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| 14:07.20 | Yuyuli | so uhm, i was farming some herbs, tabbed out and back in and got disconnected |
| 14:07.34 | Yuyuli | and my char was rolled back, lost some exp and skill points |
| 14:07.39 | Yuyuli | o.O |
| 14:33.16 | znf | Gnarfoz, oh, is that working? |
| 14:34.02 | znf | and what happened to Ermads that he's not updating it anymore :( |
| 14:49.16 | znf | I haven't been able to succesfully complete any "Campaign" mission so far https://i.imgur.com/sFQlanL.png |
| 14:52.08 | foxlit | Surely that's not the first campaign mission? |
| 14:53.32 | nebula | that and the single fire guy that hits everything for like 140 every 4 turns |
| 14:55.29 | foxlit | (but it feels somewhat bad that the troop level is the average of your companion levels, so getting new companions nerfs your troops until they catch up) |
| 14:55.35 | nebula | i haven't spent much time at all on that yet, but getting through 7.5k health seemed like it was a bit off |
| 14:55.57 | nebula | (as in you need to spend quite a bit of time leveling before attempting) |
| 15:25.54 | znf | foxlit, it is? |
| 15:29.54 | foxlit | wowhead is being more useless than usual, but my impression is that the first campaign mission is level 5. |
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| 17:37.39 | Gnarfoz | znf: yeah, used it in pre-patch; I'm not 60, so I can't say for SL proper |
| 17:37.57 | Gnarfoz | also I discovered World Quest Tab and have that enabled for now (regardless of above) |
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| 17:43.15 | Gnarfoz | znf: also, he's updated other addons of his, so I think he might just have abandoned it? |
| 17:45.14 | Gnarfoz | what's "the" new mission table addon? is there one, yet? |
| 17:47.23 | nevcairiel | so far the missions are pretty trivial |
| 17:48.06 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 17:48.59 | Gnarfoz | feels like I'm going to hit 60 tonight, possibly without even having reached Revendreth |
| 17:49.00 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 17:49.15 | nevcairiel | thats not a good thing :p |
| 17:49.47 | nevcairiel | i didnt do a single side quest after bastion, going to have to catch those up later |
| 17:50.15 | Gnarfoz | not /really/ looking forward to doing the rest at max level, but what are you gonna do :D |
| 17:50.55 | znf | eh, at least you don't have to do WQs anymore |
| 17:51.00 | Gnarfoz | that bit of rested exp every day, 3 dungeon runs so far, and some side quests here and there... odd exp curve |
| 17:51.03 | znf | well, that is, if you're interested in reputation |
| 17:51.19 | Gnarfoz | how do you mean? |
| 17:51.51 | nevcairiel | dungeons during leveling are a trap :D |
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| 17:54.53 | nevcairiel | and WQs still reward reputation, and anima, so not doing them does make you miss out on some stuff |
| 17:55.23 | nevcairiel | although both of those are finite grinds of course |
| 17:55.53 | znf | sure, but after rep, you're kind of done with WQs? |
| 17:56.05 | znf | like, you get the required anima from weekly quests |
| 17:56.17 | nevcairiel | but do you |
| 17:56.27 | znf | unless the requirements go up suddenly |
| 17:57.16 | znf | the pvp weekly is 500, I think? |
| 17:57.24 | znf | then the dungeons are 250 at least? |
| 17:57.50 | znf | not sure yet how it plays out, but I've earned around 5000 anima this week, and I've only done WQs 2 days, then I kind of gave up |
| 17:58.00 | nevcairiel | at least the forseeable future you'll want to build new buildings and buy stuff, which is all pretty expensive |
| 17:59.13 | znf | true, but do those builds actually help you from a combat point of view? or do they help you get renowned faster? |
| 18:00.19 | znf | because all I got so far was teleports and some rares stuff that I haven't figured out how to use :D |
| 18:01.00 | znf | but what I'm saying is that it doesn't seem to be required for the campaign progress? |
| 18:48.19 | foxlit | hm, this upper reaches run was much easier than the forge of the same level. |
| 18:49.21 | foxlit | a permanent 5% of max HP/2 seconds dot was rather mean. |
| 18:51.31 | znf | I had more issues with Upper Reaches, but then I got a call mid-way and I died twice, then ragequit :D |
| 18:51.55 | znf | that reduced haste debuff is more painful than the dot :-/ |
| 18:52.13 | foxlit | that's a mob-based thing thats present in both places? |
| 18:52.34 | foxlit | the dot is actually sufficient to kill you on its own, I think. |
| 18:54.31 | znf | I haven't had any issues with it, but I'm Shadow, I get shield and passive healing from almost everything |
| 18:54.45 | znf | god damn it, failed on the campaign again |
| 18:54.49 | znf | I don't get it |
| 18:55.21 | foxlit | there's nothing to get, really: large numbers are bigger than small numbers. |
| 18:56.50 | foxlit | do other missions for xp, levelling increases numbers. |
| 18:59.25 | znf | not even sure if I should be sending both followers on the same mission |
| 18:59.28 | znf | or do separate |
| 19:00.42 | foxlit | that depends on whether you want the actual mission rewards |
| 19:04.58 | foxlit | I don't understand this up and away! world quest. Jumps seem to go random distances, hitboxes for the petals seem all over the place |
| 19:06.02 | foxlit | can literally fall through a jump pad. |
| 19:07.22 | foxlit | or trigger it from below. or from 15 yards away |
| 19:07.54 | foxlit | and now I reached the temple summit but didn't get hte quest credit. |
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| 20:29.35 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I don't understand "allow as quick action" vs. "preselect as quick action" in OPie - how can there be more than one? |
| 20:29.52 | Gnarfoz | also, what does "use default ring bindings" do? |
| 20:37.44 | Gnarfoz | finally, is "center at mouse" + "enable quick action" + "allow as quick action" the best way to replace a regular mount keybind with a ring that I want to just open whenever to do what they keybind did (mount up), without accidentally using one of the alternative mounts in the ring? when I don't use "center at mouse", and my cursor is in the wrong half/third/quarter/etc of the screen when I press the keybind, I mount something else than the |
| 20:37.44 | Gnarfoz | quick action :\ |
| 20:51.12 | Gnarfoz | or is there maybe a way to increase the radius of the ring so it's not as sensitive (and I'm less likely to leave the center where the quick action wins) |
| 20:51.58 | Gnarfoz | ...I guess I could just make the "almost all of the time" mount a regular keybind and open the ring with a modifier on the same key xD |
| 20:55.13 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: btw, the keybind interface does not seem to recognize keybinds made through Bartender's /kb (I think that's LibActionButton stuff, nevcairiel?) |
| 20:56.21 | nevcairiel | LibKeyBound |
| 20:56.48 | Gnarfoz | that |
| 20:56.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:57.00 | nevcairiel | but its just CLICK keybinds |
| 21:01.06 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: it's "preselect a" not "preselect as" |
| 21:01.49 | foxlit | it remembers which of the slices allowed to be quick actions you used last, and puts that at the center. |
| 21:02.23 | Gnarfoz | ah, so... it starts out with no quick action unless I preselect one? I see |
| 21:04.14 | foxlit | (so yeah, preselection deals with the case where you haven't yet used one of the allowed quick actions during this session) |
| 21:06.29 | foxlit | Personally, I'm not a fan of the center at mouse option, but you might be able to do that. Maybe I should instead check whether you've moved the mouse at all while the ring is open |
| 21:06.46 | foxlit | Not quite sure what you mean by recognize |
| 21:08.38 | Gnarfoz | it says conflicting bindings should be red or gray (when one, when the other, btw?), but it doesn't for keybinds I made via Bartender's /kb (LibKeyBound) |
| 21:09.05 | Gnarfoz | heh, I guess because they seem to have higher priority somehow |
| 21:09.36 | Gnarfoz | if I bind something via OPie to a key I've already bound that way to Bartender, it triggers OPie; Bartender still shows its keybind on the button, though |
| 21:09.36 | foxlit | the default bindings checkbox allows you to disable the default key bindings for the rings included with OPie |
| 21:09.57 | Gnarfoz | ah, I just manually unbound all of those, that's why I couldn't tell what it did :D |
| 21:11.50 | foxlit | those already shouldn't override any bindings you're directly using, but it doesn't cover stealing modifier combinations (e.g. a ring bound to ALT-H would stop you from using a [mod:alt] macro on the H binding, but not something actually bound to ALT-H) |
| 21:13.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah I figured it picked free ones, otherwise it would have been suspiciously good at avoiding my existing bindings |
| 21:14.24 | Gnarfoz | speaking of bindings: what's the easiest way to bind the "summon random favorite mount" thing to a key without putting it on an action bar? create a macro à la /run C_MountJournal.SummonByID(0) + use SetBinding("V", "MACRO thatmacro")? (or relax the restriction and put it on a hidden bar? I guess that would work as well...) |
| 21:16.36 | foxlit | is writing an addon easy? |
| 21:17.42 | foxlit | you could just put your C_MountJournal string directly into a Bindings.xml binding, which would make it keybindable via the default interface without taking up any of the limited macro or action bar slots. |
| 21:19.40 | Gnarfoz | that sounds cleanest, I'll have to look into that, thanks |
| 21:19.53 | Gnarfoz | (and yeah, I realized that "easy" is very PoV) |
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| 21:46.41 | foxlit | Feral has a proc that lets you cast Regrowth from Cat Form -- without it, casting Regrowth would drop Cat Form. |
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| 21:48.40 | foxlit | My proc status feedback kind of sucks, so I sometimes end up triggering the self-heal macro while not having the proc, which results in sadness. |
| 21:49.29 | foxlit | Kind of want to add a macro option/metacommand to say "no, please don't drop me out of Cat Form to cast this" -- what do you think such a thing should be called? |
| 22:02.53 | Gnarfoz | wasn't there an option in game to not auto-unshift to cast? like not auto-dismounting to cast? |
| 22:03.16 | foxlit | yes, but that's all-or-nothing |
| 22:03.23 | foxlit | I do want to drop cat form to mount, for example. |
| 22:03.54 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:04.20 | Gnarfoz | can you toggle that at will / in combat / when you need it, to make it selective instead of all-or-nothing? |
| 22:04.33 | Gnarfoz | (also none of this answers your question about what it should be called :P) |
| 22:05.05 | foxlit | probably |
| 22:07.12 | Gnarfoz | noautoshift? unwieldy, and given how other macro things are named, kind of suggests autoshift exists |
| 22:08.08 | Gnarfoz | /stopmacro [thatproc]? |
| 22:08.31 | foxlit | a conditional isn't semantically correct. |
| 22:08.36 | foxlit | it's more like #nounshift /cast [@player] Regrowth |
| 22:09.10 | foxlit | (I shouldn't let you bail out of macros based on buff status) |
| 22:39.54 | foxlit | it says conflicting bindings should be red or gray (when one, when the other, btw?) << this only applies when opie lost the binding conflict; gray if it expected to lose, and red if it didn't. |
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| 23:23.06 | Mr_Rabies | can you still buy partial stacks of stuff vendors offer only in stacks of 10 or whatever or is that totally dead nowadays? |
| 23:23.18 | Mr_Rabies | i can't find any addons that seem to offer that, so i'm thinking it's dead |
