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| 15:21.42 | foxlit | So, um, the windows key fires OnKeyDown and friends as META, but pressing it opens the start menu |
| 15:22.06 | foxlit | what am I supposed to do with that? |
| 15:23.55 | nevcairiel | just ignore it |
| 15:24.33 | nevcairiel | i heard some rumors that they might offer a switch down the line to suppress the start menu if people wanted to use it as a modifier, but it may not have arrived yet |
| 15:26.41 | foxlit | meanwhile, the gamepad support maps x to space, circle/square/triangle to 3/5/7. |
| 15:29.08 | Ennea | there's gamepad support now? oh boy |
| 15:30.47 | nevcairiel | didnt really improve the usability that much, definitely need addons to tailor the UI for that |
| 15:31.02 | nevcairiel | but at least you can now play without a key-remapping software, i guess |
| 15:32.17 | Ennea | can you rebind the gamepad however you like? |
| 15:35.00 | foxlit | I wonder what the copyright status on the controller button textures is. |
| 15:37.03 | foxlit | rendering â³ as "GamePad T" is a bit meh. |
| 15:37.37 | Ennea | i've wondered that a few times now |
| 15:37.52 | Ennea | i remember back in the days when knockoff ps2 controllers had very... creative renditions of the button icons |
| 15:38.09 | Ennea | but nowadays, it feels like games can just use them however they want, as long as they support the dualshock controllers in some way |
| 15:39.16 | nevcairiel | just use xbox controllers, they have letters instead of weird magic characters |
| 15:39.28 | foxlit | boo, hiss. |
| 15:40.33 | Ennea | i'd have agreed before the release of the ps4/dualshock 4, nev ;) |
| 15:40.57 | Ennea | i used to use an xbox 360 controller, because those were just the shit back then. but the dualshock 4 is a lot better |
| 15:41.27 | Ennea | i wonder how good the dualsense will be |
| 15:46.58 | Arrowmaster | I wonder how soon the new xbox controller will be supported on linux. Getting something with usbc would be a nice upgrade for me |
| 15:47.53 | Ennea | i didn't pay much attention to the new xbox controller, does it come with any new features? if not, i'm assuming support should be relatively quick...? at least on windows, i'm assuming it just maps to xinput like you'd expect to |
| 15:48.07 | Arrowmaster | it has one new button |
| 15:48.40 | Ennea | huh, and a very weird looking dpad |
| 15:48.45 | Arrowmaster | but it wont talk to an xbox one so they might have changed hardware ids |
| 15:49.25 | Ennea | i mean, definitely. new hardware, new hardware ids ;) |
| 15:51.21 | Arrowmaster | my switch pro controller works ok enough but always wants to try and sync to my switch if I dont physically plug it into my computer |
| 15:52.29 | foxlit | IsModifiedClick("META-X") doesn't seem to want to return true while holding the windows key. |
| 15:55.50 | foxlit | and neither does IsMetaKeyDown. So althrough OnKeyDown is fired on the world frame, no meta bindings for anyone. |
| 15:56.40 | nevcairiel | IsModifiedClick works with arbitrary stuff? I thought its just for the configurable modifiers like self cast, auto loot etc |
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| 15:58.39 | foxlit | yes; I've had live code rely on its modifier-checking behavior for a few major patches now. |
| 15:58.58 | foxlit | (it /only/ checks modifiers) |
| 15:59.43 | Ennea | might wanna add that to the wiki |
| 16:00.19 | Ennea | right now the wiki's only info on this special behavior is: "This function can be called with no argument to check whether *any* modifier key is pressed" |
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| 22:02.33 | foxlit | Crosshash: it would be nice to have IsGamePadFreelookEnabled and IsGamePadCursorControlEnabled accessible in the RE. |
| 22:02.58 | foxlit | (buttons might want to behave differently depending on whether you have a mouse cursor or not) |
| 22:04.01 | Crosshash | Seems reasonable |
| 22:10.37 | foxlit | are we in 9.1 land by now? :) |
| 22:11.45 | Crosshash | For changes? Yes |
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| 22:54.31 | foxlit | in entirely unrelated news, my evil plans were almost foiled by abundant type checking. |
| 23:05.12 | Crosshash | Is that good or bad? |
| 23:12.01 | foxlit | It's a wash, I think -- the plans weren't too evil, and dealing with the side-effects isn't worth the hassle. |
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| 23:31.11 | foxlit | Hm, can I steal gamepad stick focus from the freelook mode? |
| 23:31.49 | foxlit | I guess I'd like to have the right stick control my UI element rather than the camera for a while. |
| 23:34.09 | Meorawr | I did put a few (possibly inaccurate) notes on the 9.0.1 changes document for the non-namespaced gamepad functions - namely SetGamePadCursorControl/SetGamePadFreeLook |
| 23:34.18 | Meorawr | (<https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/wiki/9.0.1-Consolidated-UI-Changes#c_gamepad-new>) |
| 23:34.28 | Meorawr | Could play with those |
| 23:34.53 | Meorawr | I think I missed the boat for Ketho's robot to copy them to the wiki and haven't bothered to do it myself yet. |
| 23:35.21 | foxlit | Not really enough. |
| 23:39.21 | foxlit | I don't really want to drop you into cursor mode, just suspend one (?) of the stick inputs for a while |
| 23:42.25 | Yuyuli_ | It would be nice if the gamepad support was a little bit more fluid like in many modern games, really don't like that the text on the actionbars is not dynamic when i switch between gamepad/keyboard |
| 23:43.00 | foxlit | a button with an ongamepadstick handler absorbs everything |
| 23:43.21 | Meorawr | I _think_ it's all or nothing - but take that with an "I played with it for 5 minutes" level of salt. |
| 23:43.50 | Yuyuli_ | i only tested it for a few minutes too a while ago lol, thats the thing i noticed and annoyed me |
| 23:44.41 | foxlit | rL1L2, what's not to like |
| 23:45.48 | foxlit | I'm surprised that the text on the action bars switched at all, given that the layout seems mad. |
| 23:46.36 | Yuyuli_ | kinda feel like though the feature isn't much of use without an addon like consoleport anyway :P wonder if they only added that feature for Developers considering before it more or less required external tool just to do it |
| 23:49.28 | Yuyuli_ | oh yeah i think it also doesn't dynamically detect controller if you plug it in, but don't quite remember |
| 23:52.33 | foxlit | well, an equivalent of GetPropagateKeyboardInput and RegisterForClicks would be nice for the stick/button inputs |
| 23:54.43 | foxlit | I might only care about one of the sticks, or might just want to be notified when the input state changes without polling the GetEverything API in OnUpdate. |