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| 01:07.56 | Elmoe_ | hmm it would appear the latest build removed UnitInPhase and UnitIsWarModePhased in favor of some new API UnitPhaseReason |
| 01:18.30 | Elmoe_ | hmm have they blocked retail names on the beta server or did I copy my character too late and someone has taken my name? |
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| 01:26.24 | nebula | i don't see why they would block anything they don't already block on live, so probably the latter |
| 01:27.44 | Elmoe | must have just been slow on the draw this beta |
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| 06:35.26 | Yuyuli | Is SetOverrideBindingClick on beta broken? i can't get anything to cast with that anymore |
| 06:35.44 | Yuyuli | i thought the actionbar fix would fix that, but it didn't |
| 06:36.40 | Yuyuli | it's like the game is trying to cast the spell, cooldowns are updated, the character stands up if sitting, but the cast will not be started beyond that |
| 06:37.18 | Yuyuli | oh maybe what im doing can't be done anymore |
| 06:39.12 | Yuyuli | hm no even if i actually click the button it doesn't do shit d.d what do i have to do |
| 06:43.43 | Yuyuli | nvm thats not whats broken |
| 06:43.55 | Yuyuli | i can't actually cast the spell via name at all, not even ingame o.O |
| 06:48.49 | Yuyuli | they protected the Fishing spell somehow that you can't use it in a macro anymore either |
| 06:51.01 | Ennea | oh no, the fishing bots~ |
| 06:58.22 | Maldivia | oh noy fishing macro |
| 07:04.04 | Yuyuli | i can get it to work by dragging the spell onto the actionbar, and clicking that over addon instead |
| 07:07.20 | Yuyuli | using /click in the macro instead of the spell name works |
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| 07:51.44 | foxlit | Sometimes, the client messes up the name->spell id resolution, breaking /cast |
| 07:53.37 | foxlit | I doubt making things un-/castable is the point -- if for no other reason than that it would make users of some action bar addons completely incapable of casting some spells. |
| 08:05.31 | Yuyuli | so you think it's not trying to cast fishing, but a spell i don't even have? |
| 08:05.52 | Yuyuli | as it's trying to cast something |
| 08:06.01 | foxlit | a Fishing (Rank 2) if you like. |
| 08:06.50 | foxlit | mostly it's a spell that you /have/ but for one reason or another can't actually cast. |
| 08:07.12 | foxlit | for example, Travel Form (Rank 2) is a passive that sometimes clobbers Travel Form. |
| 08:07.45 | foxlit | Profession spells have ranks, and sometimes the wrong rank wins name resolution -- but fails to do anything useful when cast. |
| 08:08.08 | Yuyuli | nothing i can do i guess? |
| 08:08.16 | nevcairiel | since you are working in an addon, using the spell id would always be possible |
| 08:08.46 | Yuyuli | hm how again |
| 08:08.55 | Yuyuli | does the spell atribute take spellid? |
| 08:09.20 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:09.44 | nevcairiel | assuming we're talking about a secure button type=spell |
| 08:10.28 | Yuyuli | oh yeah that does work |
| 08:10.43 | Yuyuli | but i was using a macro before, now i can't use the macro conditionals :D |
| 08:11.11 | nevcairiel | you can, its just more work |
| 08:12.11 | Yuyuli | oh i know how to fix this |
| 08:13.39 | Yuyuli | fixed |
| 08:14.05 | Yuyuli | at least now it should no longer be able to randomly stop working i guess, never had this issue before though |
| 08:15.55 | Yuyuli | instead of the button being a macro, i just added SecureCmdOptionParse to where i actually do something with the button |
| 08:16.25 | Yuyuli | so i can just continue using the macro conditiions instead of the apis |
| 08:16.36 | Yuyuli | not that it makes a difference |
| 08:17.55 | Yuyuli | thanks for the help |
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| 19:56.56 | Tentacled | So... Has UIDropDownMenu received some security updates, along with the backdrop and mixins in recent patches? |
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| 20:00.00 | Tentacled | Or does it still taint everything if called from addon code? |
| 20:00.46 | nevcairiel | Doesnt sound like someone told you already that the backdrop thing actually made even more taint :P |
| 20:02.55 | Tentacled | Right. But I was hoping they'd fix that rather sooner than later - ever the optimist! - so then we'd have a maaaybe better dropdown than before? Maybe? |
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| 20:03.38 | Tentacled | Or should I just clone BackdropTemplate as I cloned UIDropDownMenu and keep rolling my own... |
| 20:07.54 | foxlit | have you reported any issues with UIDropDownMenu? |
| 20:11.04 | foxlit | because I personally have reached the point where I can use it (along with some patches) and not suffer any visible consequences. Your mileage may vary. |
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| 20:28.51 | nevcairiel | would be nice if those patches werent necessary :p |
| 20:31.46 | Tentacled | I had my own fork, so I didn't even look at the official menu for ages. |
| 20:38.49 | foxlit | I feel like that only works if you don't interact with any other piece of framexml, ever, which doesn't really apply to a lot of addons. |
| 20:40.18 | foxlit | because otherwise, you risk touching something which touches something which uses a dropdown, and then all you've accomplished is doubled the memory usage of UIDD. |
| 20:44.26 | Chipzz | foxlit: have they finally picked up some of the patches you had listed? |
| 20:45.22 | foxlit | 8.1 fixed one, there are three more. |
| 20:50.10 | foxlit | I should probably combine the workarounds into a single file for easy embedding. |
| 20:56.46 | Tentacled | Am I dreaming, or is WoW now reloading addons' TOCs on reload? O_O |
| 20:59.21 | Tentacled | No, no, definitely dreaming. It just noticed a new addon being installed with a mere /reload. This cannot be true. |
| 21:00.38 | Tentacled | And even loaded it. With new files. Someone pinch me. |
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| 21:52.54 | Yuyuli | it's real |
| 21:55.45 | Stanzilla | foxlit: I do have your patches listed on https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc |
| 21:55.57 | Stanzilla | and they do read that so they might get to it, if you make a new one, could you also post it there please? |
| 21:59.58 | Tentacled | So... with BackdropTemplateMixin tainting its reusableNineSliceLayout... I ended up making a simple "LackdropTemplate" clone. Mimics the original, just has its own reusableNineSliceLayout and ApplyBackdrop to use it. It seems oddly... workable. |
| 22:00.35 | Tentacled | I must be missing something, it can't be that simple. :> |
| 22:08.39 | foxlit | the same "you must never touch any piece of framexml" caveat applies. |
| 22:08.47 | foxlit | For example, you can't do GameTooltip:Hide() |
| 22:10.00 | foxlit | because that'll trigger GameTooltip_OnHide, SharedTooltip_SetBackdropStyle, :SetBackdrop, BackdropTemplateMixin:SetBackdrop, BackdropTemplateMixin:ApplyBackdrop... and would you look at the time, it's taint o'clock. |
| 22:11.15 | Stanzilla | also foxlit have you experimented with https://github.com/Kampfkarren/selene before? It's kinda trying to do what globe does without the wow focus. |
| 22:11.47 | Stanzilla | that's the reason why I asked you in which format you have your code checking, to maybe build a selene config with it |
| 22:12.33 | Tentacled | Bugger. |
| 22:21.19 | foxlit | I thought you were asking about api (docs?) storage format. Globe itself is essentially a pile of Lua. |
| 22:23.16 | foxlit | I haven't experimented with selene, since I basically have the entire stack already. The lints in the docs seem rather trivial. |
| 22:25.00 | Stanzilla | well kind of both, if you had the whole API in in a format one could use to generate that config file |
| 22:25.21 | Stanzilla | nebula wrote a parser for wowpedia https://github.com/nebularg/wow-selene-parser and some BAD files |
| 22:25.29 | nebula | oh god, don't look at it |
| 22:25.32 | Stanzilla | yes yes |
| 22:26.10 | Stanzilla | but pulling from twelve different sources is a bit annoying, hence the question if you had something more complete |
| 22:28.53 | foxlit | it sounds like you just want a list of names of global variables? |
| 22:29.31 | Stanzilla | not quite, also their returns and args and the types of those |
| 22:30.20 | Stanzilla | https://gist.github.com/Stanzilla/bce1d7c1309423c7c71aba174c97e64a |
| 22:41.00 | foxlit | for things documented by blizzard, you could fish that out of the json used to render /bad/. |
| 22:42.44 | foxlit | I don't have a convenient form for everything else; globe currently runs on models generated from a global dump and a parse of framexml, and only really covers global names. |
| 22:43.42 | Stanzilla | and all the lints you wrote yourself in Lua as well? |
| 22:45.57 | Stanzilla | and I mean the json would probably make that part a bit easier but that's actually not real issue. where is that json? |
| 22:46.27 | Stanzilla | so I guess parsing wowpedia is still the pick since they actually have types and stuff |
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| 22:49.37 | foxlit | yes, the warnings are generated by Lua code. |
| 22:51.07 | foxlit | open devtools while viewing docs, check network tab (maybe after refreshing) to find the json url. |
| 22:51.23 | Mr_Rabies | reported for hacking |
| 22:52.11 | Crosshash | Ban inc |
| 22:53.53 | Yuyuli | does anyone know why it takes so long for bots to get these bots banned who farm on thundering isle and some other locations 24/7 xD |
| 22:54.58 | Yuyuli | like why is nobody actually just watching these locations instead of soley depending on player reports, these bots just come back and back again. |
| 22:55.04 | Mr_Rabies | they ban in waves, instead of immediately |
| 22:55.34 | Mr_Rabies | to prevent them from having more info on what they used to catch them |
| 22:55.44 | Yuyuli | and more often than not, it's not all the bots getting banned, it's part of the bots running around getting banned and the others still run around |
| 22:56.35 | Yuyuli | they are banned, it just takes too long, so thats why they keep coming back, faster bans would stop them because then it wouldn't be worth it anymore. |
| 22:57.03 | Mr_Rabies | it also takes time to investigate for an actual ban to happen |
| 22:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | if you had like 10-20 people out there reporting all of them it would at least trigger the auto-ban thing |
| 22:58.09 | Mr_Rabies | but they usually go to areas where they aren't super likely to run into enough people to report them and trigger that |
| 23:00.51 | Mr_Rabies | also looks like people are saying it's not bots, but people multi-boxing? no clue how they would know that, especially if some are getting banned |
| 23:01.35 | Yuyuli | it's not hard telling a multiboxer from a botter, a multiboxer can't control 20 chars independently, they duplicate input |
| 23:01.44 | foxlit | I feel like you could just auto-ban people logged in for more than 24 hours in a 30 hour period. |
| 23:02.03 | Yuyuli | that would get people banned who hardcore camp some rare etc |
| 23:02.18 | Mr_Rabies | you really don't want to have to deal with the one legitimate guy that manages to pull that off on the reg |
| 23:02.20 | foxlit | Those people should get some sleep. |
| 23:02.28 | Yuyuli | so that doesn't work as simple as that, would have to be more complex, actually having constant movement/looting for too long |
| 23:02.34 | Yuyuli | is clearly supremly suspicous |
| 23:02.45 | Yuyuli | nobody is going to run around 24/7 looting shit, thats exhausting af |
| 23:02.51 | Yuyuli | afking around is easy |
| 23:03.03 | Mr_Rabies | everyone knows that one legitimate player that could pull that off would be like an elder god karen |
| 23:06.27 | foxlit | I guess s/ban/suspend/ is in order -- it doesn't have to be forever, just long enough to make it unviable to continue over a long time. |
| 23:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | the chinese version of wow had/has a thing that makes you log off if you play too long |
| 23:07.19 | Yuyuli | on this rp server for example there is someone clearly botting in Azsuna, independent movement, same pathing |
| 23:07.51 | Yuyuli | but these bots have more reasonable names, and are in a guild |
| 23:07.56 | Yuyuli | but they are botting. |
| 23:09.15 | Mr_Rabies | i've always wondered if we have bots in our guild |
| 23:09.45 | Yuyuli | for some reason i can't report these bots |
| 23:09.49 | Mr_Rabies | we have a lot of applicants, and we pretty much accept anyone that applies unless we know they're trouble from previous interactions |
| 23:10.03 | Mr_Rabies | the right click menu stuff has been really unreliable to me lately |
| 23:10.03 | Yuyuli | i report them, and nothing happens, no complaint registered msg |
| 23:10.21 | Mr_Rabies | i can't right click whisper certain people in my raid most of the time |
| 23:10.39 | Mr_Rabies | possibly the same people, all of the time, not sure |
| 23:10.53 | Mr_Rabies | troubleshooting anything during a raid is pretty tough lol |
| 23:11.27 | Mr_Rabies | like the whisper option just won't be there for certain people |
| 23:11.32 | Mr_Rabies | but it will be there for most people |
| 23:12.06 | Mr_Rabies | and sometimes it'll try and successfully send a battle.net message to the person instead of a regular whisper, but it won't say who sent it |
| 23:12.15 | Mr_Rabies | even if they're not on my friends list |
| 23:12.21 | Mr_Rabies | very strange stuff since 8.3 |
| 23:15.54 | Mr_Rabies | also the calendar since 8.3.7 consisently cracks me up |
| 23:16.48 | Mr_Rabies | https://i.imgur.com/Ww7I22u.png |
| 23:19.52 | foxlit | It should start inventing months |
| 23:20.09 | Mr_Rabies | would not surprise me at this point |
| 23:20.15 | foxlit | "Febtobruary 72nd, 2010" |
| 23:21.30 | Mr_Rabies | like part of me was thinking the data was just in a weird format |
| 23:21.43 | Crosshash | Only true nerds know this, but the Azeroth calendar is slightly different from the real world one |
| 23:21.51 | Mr_Rabies | but this is the same exact sign up after clicking on the event again: https://i.imgur.com/uBVyb6B.png |
| 23:22.07 | Mr_Rabies | trying to figure out if this was before the release of the game or not, and also how it knows july 62 is a tuesday |
| 23:24.19 | Meorawr | Not sure what the issue here is really, these two examples are clearly just leap years. |
| 23:24.19 | Mr_Rabies | i found a real date after clicking it a few times, and it says thursday march 2 2002, but march 2 2002 was a saturday so i think we might be jumping timelines |
| 23:29.38 | foxlit | I like how some TV schedules list some programs as occurring e.g. at 26:40 on a Sunday. |
| 23:29.58 | Mr_Rabies | japanese tv is weird like that |
| 23:30.23 | foxlit | I suppose you could take the same idea to days in a month. |
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| 23:57.11 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/2uknw42n.jpg << hm. |
| 23:58.07 | MiRai | The new deepfried setting |
| 23:58.29 | foxlit | I'm reasonably sure that's not how bicubic interpolation is supposed to work. |
