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| 16:50.07 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/box/utf8 << I wrote a thing. |
| 16:53.10 | Chipzz | what does it do? (I'm lazy atm :P) |
| 16:54.04 | Chipzz | UTF8 something something? :) |
| 16:56.11 | Chipzz | also, no clue what a PUA is but it sounds like a nice pun on lua :) |
| 16:56.52 | Ennea | pua is short for the private use areas in unicode, i can tell you that much |
| 16:56.59 | Ennea | or.. area |
| 16:57.02 | Ennea | i guess it's just one |
| 16:57.15 | Ennea | or was it multiple? i can't remember |
| 16:57.26 | Chipzz | that makes sense since the thing foxlit wrote has sth to do with utf8 :) |
| 16:57.39 | Chipzz | local toPUA, fromPUA, PUA_BYTE_PATTERN = {}, {}, "\238[\160-\163][\128-\191]" do |
| 16:59.24 | foxlit | this checks whether an input string is valid utf8, and coerces it into a utf8 string which can be decoded to the original byte sequence. |
| 17:00.31 | Chipzz | interationalisation (is it i10n or i18n? can't remember) is such a PITA :) |
| 17:00.46 | Chipzz | I never bother, for me it's English or GTFO :) |
| 17:01.11 | Chipzz | English doesn't have these annoying things called accents :) |
| 17:02.51 | foxlit | méh. |
| 17:03.08 | Chipzz | and I'm not even a native English speaker, but Dutch only uses a couple of accents anyway |
| 17:03.14 | Chipzz | foxlit: what's your native language? |
| 17:07.43 | foxlit | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Internet_dog.jpg |
| 17:23.45 | foxlit | that gets me roughly 15 MB/s for (null) coercion and 20 MB/s for validation; I wonder if it can be made to run faster. |
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| 19:26.17 | Gnarfoz | Chipzz: Unicode offers many things that people speaking "English" can use, though |
| 19:37.40 | Mr_Rabies | for example, you can whisper: á´¸áµá´¬ ᶦˢ áµâ¿ áµá¶Ê³áµâ¿Ê¸áµ |
| 19:56.18 | Gnarfoz | https://xkcd.com/386/ and all that! |
| 19:56.26 | Gnarfoz | (I was thinking of emojis, though) |
| 20:21.30 | foxlit | how does wow handle non-utf8 strings? System locale, client locale, or some universal defaulting to 8859-1? |
| 20:21.50 | foxlit | (when rendering fontstrings, I guess) |
| 20:26.50 | sylvanaar | the strings are utf8 though |
| 20:27.39 | foxlit | the strings in arbitrary addon code are utf8? |
| 20:27.57 | sylvanaar | the font strings take utf8 |
| 20:28.10 | foxlit | the question was what happens when you give them something that isn't utf8 |
| 20:28.18 | foxlit | like, say, :SetText("\150") |
| 20:28.45 | sylvanaar | its invalid utf8 i guess you don't get much |
| 20:29.35 | sylvanaar | it prints ? |
| 20:33.04 | foxlit | perhaps 150 isn't the best example. |
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| 20:56.08 | foxlit | okay, at least the enus client on english windows doesn't render anything useful in the \128-\255 range. |
| 20:59.34 | foxlit | and yet there are a few addon localization files that don't use utf-8 strings. |
| 20:59.52 | nevcairiel | in my experience those are just broken :D |
| 21:03.26 | foxlit | seems like those should be fairly visible problems -- do people tolerate question marks in place of their umlauts? |
| 21:05.38 | nevcairiel | maybe it has some hacks on parsing to guess a charset and converts to unicode, i would be surprised if the display code guesses at the charset at runtime |
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| 21:10.07 | foxlit | doing it while parsing files seems bad -- elsewhere, I have data stored in 8-bit strings. |
| 21:11.38 | nevcairiel | hm right thats a thing people do |
| 21:12.08 | nevcairiel | but then you couldnt print anything in the high range either |
| 21:18.22 | foxlit | having a "hey, this isn't unicode -> convert based on $whatever to figure out which glyphs to draw" fallback in the renderer is mostly harmless (not like you can read back the rendered pixels), but it doesn't seem like that exists. |
| 21:18.49 | foxlit | so either its gated behind some conditions, or people just ship broken locale files. The latter is probably more likely. |
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