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| 13:32.19 | Chipzz | phasing is ****ing stupid |
| 13:33.17 | Chipzz | on my undergeared warlock I'm in a phase where the same Demon Hunter and other alliance gang keeps farming me over and over until I have a ressurection CD of 2min |
| 13:33.46 | Chipzz | on my overgeared pally I'm in a phase with 0 alliance players and I can complete the WQ immediately |
| 13:34.01 | Chipzz | also, nerf DH |
| 13:34.39 | Chipzz | no apparent reason for the phasing either, both chars are on the same realm and have same quest progress |
| 13:34.57 | Chipzz | (might be sharding) |
| 13:35.13 | Chipzz | frustrating as fuck |
| 13:48.40 | Chipzz | heh, why did I not notice https://www.wowhead.com/item=165728/outpost-upgrade-the-great-seal before ^^ |
| 13:48.50 | Chipzz | (and the other 2 items like it) |
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| 17:39.31 | nevcairiel | woop alpha this week |
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| 21:08.07 | Tentacled | Does any of you dabble in grabbing auction scans from the new Blizzard AH API? I'm seeing quite silly results and can't figure them out. |
| 21:08.38 | AcidWeb | Yeah. What you need to know? |
| 21:12.50 | Tentacled | https://hastebin.com/vefexomavu.bash |
| 21:13.21 | Tentacled | I'm pretty sure there aren't typical different commodity items posted at exactly 309126g 0s 0c. |
| 21:13.53 | AcidWeb | you need to divide it by the amount of items in that offer |
| 21:14.11 | Tentacled | Even if it says "UNIT_price"? |
| 21:15.00 | Tentacled | Also, there are 1, 2 or 4 quantities in this chunk, and I'm feeling a price of 309126g/2 = 154563g is just as ridiculous, if repeated. |
| 21:15.40 | AcidWeb | you parse output of C_AuctionHouse.GetReplicateItemInfo? |
| 21:15.43 | Tentacled | This is but a small chunk with this particular price; I'm seeing dozens more. |
| 21:15.54 | Tentacled | No, that's the result of https://eu.api.blizzard.com/data/wow/connected-realm/3679/auctions |
| 21:16.02 | AcidWeb | ah THAT api |
| 21:16.05 | AcidWeb | no idea then. |
| 21:16.07 | Tentacled | I should've mentioned using web API, sorry. |
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| 22:38.13 | Chipzz | Tentacled: the code you linked a while ago was mine :) |
| 22:38.24 | Chipzz | (the WoW XML parser) |
| 22:43.51 | Chipzz | it's from 2018 though; I wanted to show it to someone to show how you can use C++ templates to write an XML parser |
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| 23:20.36 | Mr_Rabies | <Chipzz> on my undergeared warlock I'm in a phase where the same Demon Hunter and other alliance gang keeps farming me over and over until I have a ressurection CD of 2min |
| 23:21.06 | Mr_Rabies | the sharding in war mode is an unfortunate necessity, but you can haul your ghost to a rest area and turn it off while dead if you're getting camped |
| 23:27.45 | Chipzz | Mr_Rabies: I got it done in the end; I was more frustrated with the allocation of my toons to the shards rather than with the sharding itself |
| 23:28.04 | Chipzz | I wouldn't have minded it the other way around :) |
| 23:30.34 | Chipzz | and I would say that war mode itself is the unfortunate necessity |
| 23:31.05 | Chipzz | actually no, war mode is some bullshit to appease a tiny minority of players and inconvenience the majority |
| 23:32.11 | Mr_Rabies | i like it in concept but in practice it's super horde-favored, and the only way to get alliance to do it is the buff they get for electing to shard into the grist mill |
| 23:32.16 | Chipzz | realistically noone opts out because of the extra rewards |
| 23:32.42 | Mr_Rabies | i opt out because my time is valuable and i don't really need extra currency or AP anymore |
| 23:32.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather just get quests done and move on |
| 23:33.15 | Chipzz | when I get attacked in war mode I usually don't even bother fighting them |
| 23:33.24 | Chipzz | I may even AFK while they kill me |
| 23:33.49 | Mr_Rabies | the alliance experience is basically what you talked about above, but 24/7 |
| 23:34.18 | Mr_Rabies | just getting camped to death if you're going anywhere near world quests |
| 23:34.27 | Chipzz | oh and I killed a lvl 110 mage on the Broken Shore the other day to get some lame revenge for getting another char camped in anohter zone |
| 23:34.34 | Chipzz | didn't feel bad about it :P |
| 23:34.57 | Mr_Rabies | it would be nice if you were more guaranteed to get the same shard when you swap back to your main to roflstomp some campers but |
| 23:35.10 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure it'd be gamed in a bad way |
| 23:35.26 | Chipzz | as if the current situation does not get abused :p |
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| 23:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | it does, but much less than a system that would be more predictable |
| 23:36.07 | Chipzz | I honestly wish they would just remove PvP from the game altogether |
| 23:36.10 | Mr_Rabies | you could invite a guildie in the same zone, then have them invite your alt |
| 23:36.37 | Chipzz | there are plenty of PvP games out there, but few PvE games |
| 23:36.49 | Chipzz | ppl can get their PvP fix in other games for all I care |
| 23:37.22 | Mr_Rabies | i think war mode is a good solution they just have to figure out some way to make the rewards worth swapping to war mode for but not just an automatic bonus for one faction that barely engages in pvp |
| 23:37.40 | Mr_Rabies | like it's either horde get a nice 10% bonus for free, or alliance get bribed 30% to get camped for hours |
| 23:37.50 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know how they could balance it |
| 23:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | maybe offer a decent amount of conquest and honor but nothing else for turning it on |
| 23:38.15 | Mr_Rabies | so it's just for pvpers |
| 23:38.29 | Chipzz | TBH if there were no extra rewards I doubt even 1% of the population would care about WPvP |
| 23:38.35 | Mr_Rabies | and that's fine |
| 23:38.48 | Mr_Rabies | but i'd wager it's larger than that |
| 23:39.11 | Chipzz | so they introduced sth that realistically speaking is mandatory just to appease what, <1% of player base? |
| 23:39.11 | Mr_Rabies | wpvp is fun and war mode fixed the "forever stuck on pvp server unless i want to pay" problem |
| 23:39.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's really not mandatory, it does help if you're doing EVERY world quest every day but otherwise just turn it off and do more world quests |
| 23:40.28 | Mr_Rabies | as alliance i can do twice the world quests in the same time with war mode off |
| 23:41.03 | Chipzz | on my main I used to do that |
| 23:41.14 | Chipzz | but I don't anymore since I started leveling alts |
| 23:43.23 | Mr_Rabies | i would definitely say of the player base at BFA launch probably a good 30-40% of players liked the idea of war mode, but i imagine a lot of those same players now play classic instead |
| 23:43.59 | Mr_Rabies | but they should just make it pvp rewards for people that don't want to do ranked or organized stuff, or a bonus for those who do |
| 23:44.13 | Chipzz | that I agree on |
| 23:44.29 | Mr_Rabies | don't give it a pve bonus, but buff its pvp bonus significantly |
| 23:44.34 | Chipzz | I really hate how they try to force PvE players into PvP |
| 23:44.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i'm still frustrated about conflict and strife |
| 23:44.54 | Chipzz | they did the same thing in Pandaria for the legendary cloak |
| 23:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | the battlefield tactician one was bad enough |
| 23:45.07 | Mr_Rabies | for blood of the enemy or whatever |
| 23:45.27 | Chipzz | well TBH |
| 23:45.40 | Chipzz | can't you create a Horde toon and get them on that? |
| 23:45.43 | Mr_Rabies | having to grind 50k honor (now nerfed to 30k thank god) |
| 23:45.55 | Chipzz | and then use the currency to buy them on your ally toons? |
| 23:46.07 | Mr_Rabies | possibly, but that's probably more work than just getting it lol |
| 23:46.24 | Chipzz | is it really? |
| 23:46.29 | Mr_Rabies | like my guild has some good pvpers we could probably get it if we sat down and worked on it, it's not -that- hard |
| 23:46.30 | Chipzz | use boost to get char to 110 |
| 23:46.36 | Mr_Rabies | it's just annoying |
| 23:46.43 | Chipzz | use heirlooms and island expiditions to level to 120 |
| 23:47.06 | Chipzz | send Benthic tokens to get starter gear quickly |
| 23:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | how did you know i had a leftover 110 boost |
| 23:48.34 | Chipzz | I have 2 :) |
| 23:48.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'm saving that for a rainy day when i decide to just say screw it and reroll, and also to see what happens to it in shadowlands |
| 23:49.00 | Chipzz | but dungeon spam as tank shouldn't take too long to get to 110 either, does it? |