| 00:09.24 | foxlit | Yuyuli: why does /fstack still ... << debugging tricky issues that only affect addon developers ranks isn't particularly productive. Write them a patch. |
| 00:09.52 | foxlit | s/ranks // |
| 00:21.33 | foxlit | (which might be as simple as replacing SlashCmdList["FRAMESTACK"] with SecureCmdList["FRAMESTACK"], but the real effort-consuming part is explaining why it breaks and how this would fix it) |
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| 06:33.03 | netameta | Is there a way to check if a certain mobs exist near me ? |
| 06:56.05 | Mr_Rabies | you could probably use the features that Spy in classic wow uses to find enemy players, which means basically mouseover/target/party target/reading combat log/nameplates |
| 06:56.47 | netameta | well basically wanted to make something to check if one of the world bosses has spawned |
| 06:57.47 | netameta | only way i can see is mouse hover target many time and when he moves past - bingo |
| 06:58.13 | netameta | UnitGUID("mouseover") |
| 06:58.18 | Mr_Rabies | your best range on things would be to see if any of the world bosses do anything out of combat that shows up in the combat log |
| 06:58.28 | netameta | Yea i thought about that too |
| 06:58.36 | netameta | like if they yell when they spawn |
| 06:58.39 | Mr_Rabies | that's like 200 yards, can't beat that |
| 06:58.42 | netameta | couldnt find any data about that |
| 06:58.50 | Mr_Rabies | and yells etc are even longer range i believe |
| 06:58.57 | Mr_Rabies | zone-wide for npc yells i believe? |
| 06:59.07 | netameta | yea |
| 06:59.21 | netameta | what you mean boss do anything out of combat |
| 06:59.26 | Mr_Rabies | but they may also buff themselves etc |
| 06:59.30 | netameta | well i did etrace - i see nothing |
| 06:59.35 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 06:59.48 | netameta | but then again right now its dead |
| 06:59.55 | netameta | so maybe its different |
| 07:00.05 | netameta | kazzak is easy he spawn at same place always |
| 07:00.08 | netameta | in the crater |
| 07:00.21 | netameta | so i can just mouse hover there.. and we good |
| 07:00.37 | netameta | not sure if this will work of azure - i dont know where he spawns, or if he yells stuff |
| 07:01.16 | Mr_Rabies | i think azure may have multiple spawns along his path |
| 07:01.32 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not |
| 07:03.00 | netameta | Thanks i will continue looking |
| 07:12.58 | Mr_Rabies | if nameplates went out further it'd be a lot easier lol |
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| 13:07.47 | Yuyuli | foxlit: your https://www.townlong-yak.com/bugs/Mx7CWN-RefreshOverread workaround is actually making the tracking menu insecure if you call it for example via /run ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, MiniMapTrackingDropDown, "cursor"); and hover the submenu, then the first level in insecure. |
| 13:40.08 | foxlit | Really? |
| 13:40.50 | foxlit | (also what does "the first level is insecure" mean, exactly?) |
| 13:43.34 | foxlit | fwiw, my impression is that if you call ToggleDropDownMenu insecurely (like with /run), all the keys set on the buttons *should* be tainted. I don't quite see how the workaround is involved in that, though. |
| 13:44.37 | Ennea | i was under the impression that, when writing an addon in the need of a dropdown, you shouldn't use uidropdownmenu anyway. due to all the taint issues |
| 13:48.11 | foxlit | You can't taint anything if your addon doesn't do anything. |
| 13:53.43 | Yuyuli | when you hover the submenu, the first dropmenu level fails it's secure check, so the workaround drops the checkmark on all items |
| 13:55.39 | Yuyuli | when any item is checked |
| 13:57.18 | foxlit | Ah, that makes more sense - it purges keys it shouldn't purge in any multi-level dropdown. |
| 14:02.03 | foxlit | I think you can fix this by changing the for j loop to start at _G["DropDownList" .. i].numButtons+1, but I don't have a way to test this in the near future |
| 14:13.08 | Yuyuli | seems to work, not sure but not getting a interface action error when using the macro in the workaround, nor the tracking menu getting broken if called by something else |
| 14:41.19 | Ennea | foxlit, right ;p but for dropdowns, isn't there that copy of the uidropdownmenu stuff? some lib that copies all of blizzard's code for it which you can use to not run into any taints |
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| 15:35.03 | foxlit | I like neither that approach nor its implementations. |
| 15:36.46 | foxlit | For one, your addon probably does more than just display a dropdown. If you interact with any part of framexml that uses a dropdown (like, say, have a configuration panel in the standard dialog), you're still on the hook for most uidd issues even if you don't call it directly. |
| 15:40.48 | foxlit | In general, I think it's better to loudly break ui functionality until they fix their API than to essentially maintain a shadow copy of framexml in a library. |
| 15:41.20 | nevcairiel | if only that would work, we've been breaking dropdown-related functions for probably a decade now |
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| 15:41.58 | VIad | isn't ion the only one playing the game these days? might not even use any addons that use dropdowns that annoys him, so why fix right? |
| 15:42.23 | foxlit | Counterpoint: I don't have any uidd issues in my ui, and I use uidd for everything. |
| 15:43.10 | nevcairiel | i dont either, but i rarely interact with the community stuff or kick people from the guild, and if it fails i would just reload and forget it happened a few minutes later |
| 15:47.02 | foxlit | I think that's kind of the point: anything that's broken loudly and painfully enough eventually gets patched. |
| 15:49.34 | foxlit | If nobody could kick anyone from a guild, they'd have more of an incentive to fix that. Hence, using library replacements for dropdown is kind of counter-productive to getting the broader issues addressed. |
| 15:53.20 | foxlit | A slightly more petty issue is that I don't trust the people maintaining those libraries to know what they're actually doing. Last I seriously looked at them, they were shipping XML templates version-"controlled" by LibStub. |
| 15:54.01 | nevcairiel | thats why i dont use them, you cant version XML |
| 15:54.20 | nevcairiel | and i told some of those people, but they were like "if we never change them, it doesnt matter" |
| 15:55.05 | foxlit | It's probably handled by a factory function now since xml parser whines more loudly in 8, but it's still icky. |
| 15:55.28 | nevcairiel | not sure it complains about duplicate elements |
| 15:55.32 | nevcairiel | but it probably should |
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| 16:01.28 | AcidWeb | I think most of that libs already dropped XML component. |
| 16:01.55 | AcidWeb | But I admit that I not checked it for long time. |
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| 22:06.24 | Mr_Rabies | is there like a new community thing or is my client acting up because of my horrible lag |
| 22:08.23 | Mr_Rabies | new guild finder and community finder |
| 22:15.18 | nevcairiel | https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23232341/guild-communities-finder-now-live |
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| 22:25.09 | Mr_Rabies | ah i checked wowhead and stuff and i didn't see anything aboutit |
| 22:25.35 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah now they do lol |
| 22:25.40 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i caught it just as it launched |
| 22:27.27 | foxlit | It's remarkable how few websites and apps work properly when you have a second of latency to everywhere :( |
| 22:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | same here foxlit |
| 22:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's been like this for over a week now |
| 22:27.58 | Mr_Rabies | for my awful att dsl |
| 22:31.07 | Mr_Rabies | 2000+ latency in wow |
| 22:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | 20% packet loss |
| 22:31.20 | nevcairiel | well you are with at&t, you must like pain and suffering |
| 22:33.24 | Mr_Rabies | no, i am obligated to pain and suffering if i want to connect to the internet |
| 22:33.27 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 22:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | i would use any other isp at this point (other than satellite since that's always bad for gaming) |
| 22:33.46 | Mr_Rabies | if i could |
| 22:34.06 | nevcairiel | incidentally, maybe you'll get usable satellite eventually |
| 22:34.41 | Mr_Rabies | i think the best they can do right now is about 550ms |
| 22:36.58 | nevcairiel | of course i'm refering to starlink, which has satellites in a muuuch lower orbit then your typical communication satellites, which can get you latencies down to <50ms |
| 22:37.15 | nevcairiel | if it ever gets off the ground, literelly :d |
| 22:38.02 | Mr_Rabies | just put a big wireless router on a long cable and let it fling around like a flail |