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| 00:47.16 | LexSfX | nebula: did you happen to see a link they posted to their fork or anything like that? |
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| 03:50.23 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/Uqccn0Q.png what the hell is wrong with this turtle |
| 04:09.23 | Mr_Rabies | gotta go back to turtle school znf sorry |
| 04:24.45 | znf | this again https://i.imgur.com/Cortgcz.png |
| 04:39.55 | Mr_Rabies | that takes me back to that one wrath patch just before they added large address aware to the 32 bit client |
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| 06:27.26 | nevcairiel | i've never had that memory message, znf must be special |
| 06:43.13 | LexSfX | i've also never had that memory message, and i have 16 GB of physical RAM with 28.8 GB of system commit at this moment... |
| 06:43.25 | LexSfX | maybe znf's pagefile is disabled |
| 06:43.54 | LexSfX | (i keep google sheets tabs open for work) |
| 06:45.30 | Ennea | znf, need more dedotated wams |
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| 07:07.06 | MooreaTv | it's the secret version of wow on zx81 |
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| 14:43.16 | znf | LexSfX: no, my pagefile is not disabled |
| 14:43.23 | znf | And I've got 24gb ram |
| 14:43.58 | znf | It happens very rarely for random patches |
| 14:44.02 | znf | 8.0 was like that |
| 14:44.20 | znf | Now they patched 8.2.5 last time and I started getting it again |
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| 15:35.25 | VIad | last time I read on it it said its best to let the OS manage the pagefile, like microsoft docs talked about it themselves so dunno... |
| 15:40.00 | znf | my pagefile is managed by the OS |
| 15:40.09 | znf | I stopped touching it ages ago |
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| 15:52.56 | znf | lol, this Cooking map / brawl |
| 15:53.02 | znf | I jumped somewhere I guess I wasn't supposed to be |
| 15:53.03 | znf | I got d/c'd |
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| 17:10.42 | LexSfX | maybe you're out of hard drive space for your pagefile to grow |
| 17:11.21 | LexSfX | oh, that was retail. i haven't tried 8.2.5 retail; been playing Classic exclusively |
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| 17:21.19 | MooreaTv | you don't need more than 3gb for wow even on retail |
| 17:21.57 | nevcairiel | "need" is such a relative term, my wow frequently uses more then 3 |
| 17:22.04 | nevcairiel | of course I could run on lowbie settings, but...why |
| 17:23.22 | MooreaTv | I run 5 to 8 simultaneously without ever having memory issues so I find it suprising you would by using only 1, I would think look somewhere else |
| 17:25.19 | znf | LexSfX, no, I'm not |
| 17:25.52 | znf | (not running out of disk space) |
| 17:26.09 | LexSfX | understood. it could very-well be a bug |
| 17:27.52 | nevcairiel | its a znf problem, he infects software with his negative aura |
| 17:28.41 | Ennea | :D |
| 17:29.00 | znf | :-( |
| 17:39.03 | Mr_Rabies | are you certain you're running the 64 bit client, znf? before wow was made LAA and then later 64 bit it would start getting those errors just before 2GB |
| 17:44.38 | Ennea | there is no 32 bit build anymore afaik |
| 17:44.44 | Ennea | s/build/client |
| 17:47.21 | znf | ^ |
| 17:48.39 | Mr_Rabies | znf: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/bfqlld/black_screens_when_playing_game_and_low_virtual/ |
| 17:49.04 | foxlit | Stanzilla: foxlit: resource display in warplan seems broken https://i.imgur.com/gVWtqsO.png << dunno, works for me. |
| 17:49.07 | Mr_Rabies | could be for some reason your pagefile size is locked or something even if it's not supposed to be |
| 17:49.38 | foxlit | iirc that thing is permanently registered for currency update once created, and refreshes on OnShow, so it'd take the client doing something special to show the wrong value. |
| 17:50.35 | znf | it's not, it's system managed |
| 17:50.47 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/RfPSHdB.png |
| 17:51.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but read that post |
| 17:51.12 | Mr_Rabies | it could be bugging out |
| 17:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | also maybe check the box about "automatically manage paging file size for all drives" just to see what that does? |
| 17:52.37 | Mr_Rabies | i have multiple drives and it's still only putting one on my OS drive |
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| 17:53.46 | znf | I certainly do not want a pagefile on my HDDs... |
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| 17:55.35 | znf | I only have shit like: |
| 17:55.36 | znf | Windows successfully diagnosed a low virtual memory condition. The following programs consumed the most virtual memory: svchost.exe (2200) consumed 21889818624 bytes, Wow.exe (193508) consumed 3218018304 bytes, and Wow.exe (89256) consumed 2716893184 bytes. |
| 17:56.22 | foxlit | okay, no, it doesn't update onshow, only on create/on event. I suppose if GetCurrencyInfo decides to just return faulty data and not fire CURRENCY_DISPLAY_UPDATE later it'll happily display nonsense. |
| 18:04.09 | znf | if I'd have to go based on that, it's that my svchost.exe consumes a large amount of memory: https://i.imgur.com/GMjhbVO.png |
| 18:04.23 | znf | but weirdly it does not show up in task manager as consuming 20GB+ |
| 18:04.33 | znf | so I'm not sure how to interpret that |
| 18:23.37 | nevcairiel | low virtual memory is different from actual memory consumed |
| 18:24.39 | nevcairiel | you can see virtual memory by enabling the "commit size" column in task manager |
| 18:24.50 | znf | still, why would it reach a low state? |
| 18:25.08 | nevcairiel | obviously because one process eats 20gb of it? :P |
| 18:25.55 | znf | Going by the numbers, it would be 20+3+3 = 26, max size is managed by windows at 28 |
| 18:26.18 | nevcairiel | there is obviously more small consumers not listed there |
| 18:26.19 | znf | but more importantly, why would that process require 20... |
| 18:26.30 | znf | yeah, sure |
| 18:27.50 | znf | restarting the service doesn't seem to be doing anything in regards to memory usage |
| 18:28.48 | znf | actually I don't think right-clicking to restart works, the PID should be gone, gonna manually restart it I guess |
| 18:30.25 | nevcairiel | mine uses 9mb of memory, btw :p |
| 18:30.26 | Ennea | znf, i'm guessing if you just restart the service it will reuse the process, maybe not even terminate it |
| 18:30.38 | znf | yeah, mine now uses 8MB |
| 18:30.59 | Ennea | which service, anyway? |
| 18:33.24 | znf | svchost -> WMI |
| 18:36.17 | znf | I just love the partial i18n: The start type of the Background Intelligent Transfer Service service was changed from pornire automatÄ to pornire la cerere. |
| 18:37.08 | znf | My display language is set to English, but my regional settings are set to Romanian (for date, currency etc.). I always get weird half translations in random programs |
| 18:41.16 | Crosshash | Who doesn't want automatic porn? |
| 18:41.47 | znf | I'm very picky about my porn, thank you very much |
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| 20:27.44 | netameta | Is there an addon that check buss for classic ? |
| 20:43.13 | znf | check what? |
| 20:58.32 | netameta | Check for buffs |
| 20:58.34 | netameta | and consuables |
| 20:58.58 | Ennea | what kinda checks? |
| 21:01.31 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure there's a weakaura at least if nothing else netameta |
| 21:02.13 | Ennea | yea, that's what i was thinking also |
| 21:02.49 | netameta | Ennea a check that you join raid raid leader click check for consuable |
| 21:03.06 | netameta | and it checks the entire raid for all needed consuables. |
| 21:04.00 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately curseforge has the worst search ever |
| 21:05.26 | Mr_Rabies | looks lik there's an exorsus raid tools for classic netameta https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools |
| 21:23.39 | netameta | THanks Mr_Rabies |
| 21:25.05 | netameta | This doesnt seem to be classic though |
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| 21:35.27 | LexSfX | what's this then? http://lex.clansfx.co.uk/dump/cbc7d3c98af244e3133ffbfae7945eec/000007CA.png |
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| 22:36.19 | znf | TSquare, Crosshash - is there any reason that nameplateMaxDistance is fixed to 60 on retail? |
| 22:36.27 | znf | You can't lower it anymore |
| 22:40.06 | Crosshash | I haven't heard anything. Are you sure about this? |
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| 22:42.54 | TSquare | yea, people were using scientific notation to get "infinite" distance |
| 22:43.04 | TSquare | so we locked it down |
| 22:45.21 | znf | but can't you properly check for the actual value...? |
| 22:45.34 | znf | Crosshash, yes |
| 22:47.19 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/hGeibeC.png |
| 22:47.40 | znf | target is at 35+ yards, cvar is set to 20, yet nameplates render |
| 22:48.42 | znf | Also, since when was that ever an issue with Retail? I know it's an issue on Classic, but it seems silly that I can not lower it |
| 22:49.14 | znf | Incredibly silly to be able to see a nameplate I can't actually cast stuff on, as a caster :-/ |
| 22:53.46 | TSquare | Sorry, you can blame me. |
| 22:55.05 | Funkeh` | Is there a plan to make it work again? |
| 22:55.55 | Funkeh` | Seems like a last minute band aid atm |
| 22:56.18 | Alram | 8.3 soon |
| 22:56.24 | Alram | ish |
| 22:56.37 | Alram | there's a good chance to unbandaid |
| 22:57.00 | TSquare | Maybe |
| 22:57.11 | TSquare | I mostly didn't want to play "wack-a-mole" with cvars |
| 23:01.00 | znf | If at least the nameplate*Alpha CVars would be more useful |
| 23:01.14 | znf | but they all reference camera position, so you can't even fade the out-of-range ones |
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| 23:49.09 | Raeli | Dumb question maybe, but many other CVars don't accept input in scientific notation, is there a reason why nameplateMaxDistance isn't the same? |
