| 00:01.54 | znf | sylvanaar, you seem to enjoy to yell at a mountain |
| 00:02.38 | sylvanaar | znf: what does that mean? |
| 00:03.15 | znf | it's a drop of water in a pool of ignorants :) |
| 00:03.29 | znf | see, one already told you go to Retail :P |
| 00:03.47 | sylvanaar | was he talking to me, really? |
| 00:03.57 | sylvanaar | haha, I didn't notice |
| 00:04.02 | znf | I /think/? |
| 00:04.23 | sylvanaar | I thought he was just too retarded to post with the right reply link |
| 00:05.34 | znf | maybe I'm wrong, but... |
| 00:05.51 | znf | I mean, it's clear that the "ban all addons in classic" crowd is lacking in the brain-cell department |
| 00:08.03 | sylvanaar | ill never understand them |
| 00:09.29 | Corrodias | what would be the point of a classic WoW without addons? they were part of the experience, so if you're trying ot recreate an old experience, you need them. and old WoW is not exactly a wonderful and engaging, modern game, so if you're *not* trying to recreate an old experience, what's the point of playing? |
| 00:10.47 | MooreaTv | next up is wow classic should not have a keyboard support, you should click on everything because back then people clicked spells... |
| 00:11.12 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 00:11.20 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> sylvanaar, https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/ban-all-addons-its-the-only-way-to-save-classic/264973/253?u=azilroka-area-52 |
| 00:13.47 | Meorawr | Hmm, does the LCDXML stuff still work with those ancient Logitech G15 keyboards? |
| 00:13.55 | Meorawr | I think that's important to my Classic experience. |
| 00:14.25 | fusionpit | yeah, my g13 works fine in classic |
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| 01:11.49 | foxlit | for the sliver of level 60 dungeons that you aren't running with your guild, adhoc spam somewhere populated seems adequate. |
| 01:12.20 | sylvanaar | K |
| 01:12.50 | foxlit | (then again, I'm not overly enthusiastic about this entire classic thing, so maybe you should just carry on doing whatever you think you want) |
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| 01:15.20 | sylvanaar | Sure I could do my own thing |
| 01:15.55 | sylvanaar | I guess I was looking for collaborators |
| 01:17.24 | sylvanaar | Think of it as something similar to the old format that let you send item links in chat channels |
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| 01:59.27 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I understand that foxlit |
| 02:00.03 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I just know that the chat is just going to fly by for lf/lfg/lfm spam |
| 02:01.47 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I made alot of friends by LFG system itself.. I made literally none while using LFR though which is what have been complaining about |
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| 04:38.25 | znf | At the end, I just believe that those people who crave about the "community" and "names being recognized" have some kind of god complex and they want to be put up on a stand just because they are tanking/healing |
| 04:41.29 | znf | My experiences playing without the looking-for-dungeon tool (before x-realm) was that I was stuck for hours, sometimes, in town, because there was either no tank/healer available/online, or the ones we were able to find were not even +def capped, for example |
| 04:42.40 | znf | And for the people that keep saying that "x-realm lfg killed WoW" I have to remind them that one of the big reasons the subscriber count was high for WoTLK was that A LOT of people knew who the hell The Lich King was and they wanted to see an end to that story |
| 04:42.55 | znf | I had no idea who deathwing was before Cataclysm |
| 04:43.05 | znf | I knew Illidan and Arthas/The Lich King |
| 04:44.20 | znf | and while I knew about Sargeras and the Burning Legion, I couldn't care less |
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| 06:44.11 | Ennea | znf, sylvanaar: how can anybody stand reading anything on the official forums? it feels like a majority of people posting there are complete idiots |
| 06:44.22 | Ennea | there's a guy who made a thread about wanting gatherer banned as well |
| 06:44.28 | Ennea | so clearly he didn't play WoW back in the day |
| 06:44.48 | Ennea | then there's the one randomly shitting on RP realms because they still have relatively low population |
| 06:45.16 | Ennea | i always find myself closing any forum tabs pretty quickly, there's just no good content in there |
| 06:48.11 | Simca_ | there |
| 06:48.22 | Simca_ | there's a lot people supporting 'no addons' at all, which is hilarious |
| 06:48.39 | Ennea | that's kinda scary actually |
| 06:49.08 | Ennea | and stupid as hell, considering there were already heaps of useful addons in the beta back then |
| 06:49.14 | Ennea | but sure, let's go back to the state of 1.0 with no addons |
| 06:49.17 | Ennea | have fun with one action bar |
| 06:49.31 | Ennea | 12 buttons should be enough, right? |
| 06:49.57 | Simca_ | it's classic WoW, the rotations are simple to a trivial level, and the raid encounter design doesn't remotely compare with anything modern in terms of complexity, so it's not like addon users will have anywhere near the edge they get in 8.2 |
| 06:50.01 | Simca_ | as well |
| 06:54.17 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> They will soon learn they fucked up bitching about ClassicLFG |
| 06:57.38 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> When it goes from full to looking like this |
| 06:57.40 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> https://www.tukui.org/screenshots/Azilroka/1566716231-Wow_ZSsYmtO9Wr.png |
| 06:58.26 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> Those 8 characters was on a high server back in wotlk |
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| 07:13.40 | ls- | tbf, lfg addon is needed on high pop realms waaaay more than on low pop realms |
| 07:14.10 | ls- | it nigh impossible to read lfg channel on a high pop realm w/o addons' help |
| 07:14.20 | ls- | shit scrolls like 10 lines per second |
| 07:15.29 | ls- | https://imgur.com/a/m9iPgjp |
| 07:15.31 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> i know.. I been on blackrock before |
| 07:16.09 | ls- | see the gif above, I wouldn't even bother trying to read it w/o some sort of filter or parser |
| 07:16.20 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> that's exactly how classic is going to be and people will have to scroll to read it |
| 07:17.33 | ls- | but while scrolling up older lines will start disappearing :V |
| 07:17.38 | Ennea | well, they can't do anything about addons parsing the chat |
| 07:17.49 | ls- | oh, they can |
| 07:17.55 | Ennea | i doubt they will |
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| 07:18.34 | ls- | they already did that on retail w/ community chats, iirc |
| 07:18.54 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> they can block it |
| 07:19.14 | Ennea | the hell are community chats |
| 07:20.07 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> pretty sure the hotkey is o on retail |
| 07:20.22 | Ennea | can you explain what it is to me? |
| 07:20.28 | Ennea | i haven't touched retail since wotlk and don't intend to |
| 07:20.34 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> something I never used |
| 07:20.39 | Ennea | hm |
| 07:20.41 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> you use the bnet client? |
| 07:20.46 | Ennea | yea |
| 07:20.49 | Ennea | ohh |
| 07:20.52 | Ennea | the bnet group chat thingy? |
| 07:21.07 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> yea |
| 07:21.53 | Ennea | so that has an ingame implementation, and you can't read the messages using an addon? |
| 07:22.00 | Ennea | or hook the functions that add new messages? |
| 07:22.10 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> correct |
| 07:22.22 | Ennea | D: |
| 07:22.33 | Ennea | if blizz prevent chat frame modifications, i'm out again |
| 07:22.34 | Ennea | lol |
| 07:22.55 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> hate to see you leave ð |
| 07:23.32 | Ennea | you think they will? ;D |
| 07:24.13 | ls- | I mean, as you can see, the spirit of classic > common sense, so they prob could :V |
| 07:25.02 | Ennea | so far they haven't said what they'd be doing to fuck over classiclfg. all they said so far was they'd be making some api changes |
| 07:25.15 | Ennea | they might just downgrade the addon message api functions to work like they did in 1.12 |
| 07:25.36 | Ennea | which removes addong specific channels and only allows addon messages via guild, party, raid |
| 07:25.54 | Ennea | so.. we'll see |
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| 07:27.24 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> if whisper is there it wouldn't be that hard to net it |
| 07:27.53 | Ennea | i'm wondering about that myself |
| 07:27.58 | Ennea | and hoping they'll keep whisper around |
| 07:28.09 | ls- | but it's also possible to create a network via whispers, and that's exactly what blizz want to prevent |
| 07:28.11 | Ennea | i need that to work for various rp addons to still function |
| 07:28.25 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> it is possible just like bnet net |
| 07:28.26 | ls- | they might just say "f it, let's nuke it" and be done w/ it |
| 07:29.16 | ls- | they kinda care about RP stuff, but at the same time not really... |
| 07:29.27 | ls- | PR > RP :V |
| 07:29.32 | Ennea | i liked how they cared about it back in the day |
| 07:29.43 | Ennea | could just create a ticket for every player with a stupid name you saw |
| 07:29.51 | Ennea | usually had a response in ~8 hours saying it was taken care of |
| 07:30.07 | Ennea | stupid as in clearly not an rp name |
| 07:30.39 | ls- | yeah |
| 07:30.57 | Ennea | and now we have one rp, one rp-pvp realm each in both EU and NA |
| 07:31.01 | Ennea | :/ |
| 07:31.08 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> what lightspark is clearly a roleplay name |
| 07:31.33 | Ennea | that's still debatable, but stuff like Ikillyou is not ;p |
| 07:31.51 | nevcairiel | and those classic rp realms will still be relatively empty, so why should there be more :d |
| 07:31.55 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> what if he pronounces it LULPWNZ? |
| 07:32.00 | ls- | it's a good rp name for a gnome or goblin |
| 07:32.22 | Ennea | nevcairiel, they're all at medium, which, according to blizzard, is about the same level as a full realm back in vanilla |
| 07:32.23 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> and why are genders still in classic? |
| 07:32.28 | Ennea | so i'm generally fine with it |
| 07:32.49 | Ennea | too bad the rp realms are only english though |
| 07:33.01 | ls- | but now classic team cares more about scoring brownie points w/ streamers and their followers |
| 07:33.09 | Ennea | perhaps they'll open language specific ones after launch, if there's enough people asking for it |
| 07:33.12 | ls- | manufactured outrage is ridiculous |
| 07:33.57 | ls- | Ennea, ahaha, iirc, russians still don't have rp realms even though russian realms were added in wotlk :V |
| 07:33.58 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> ls-, do you think we can message those streamers when they quit classic and ask them to come help with rfc or sfk? |
| 07:34.09 | Ennea | well, russians are always in character anyway |
| 07:34.24 | nevcairiel | the entire topic is ridiculous, noone seemed to have even looked at what ClassicLFG actually does |
| 07:34.38 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I didn't even look at what it does |
| 07:34.44 | Ennea | yea, their handling of the classiclfg thing was pretty fucking poor |
| 07:35.05 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I know what it does those just by knowing the old api |
| 07:35.12 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> though* |
| 07:35.19 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> it's a simple chat parser |
| 07:35.35 | ls- | man, in those threads some people legit think that it added teleporting to dungeons functionality to the game |
| 07:35.41 | Ennea | well |
| 07:35.43 | Ennea | people are idiots |
| 07:35.46 | Ennea | that's not new |
| 07:35.49 | nevcairiel | people think its 100% LFD |
| 07:35.55 | nevcairiel | random auto-matchmaking with no interaction |
| 07:36.00 | nevcairiel | but its so far away from that |
| 07:36.11 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> they seen the name LFG |
| 07:36.14 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> triggered |
| 07:36.36 | Ennea | i wonder if they will fall out of their chairs when they realize there's an lfg channel ingame ;) |
| 07:36.37 | ls- | well, suu fucked up when he came up w/ that name |
| 07:36.47 | Ennea | yea.. |
| 07:37.05 | Ennea | somebody should've just ported vqueue to 1.13 and kept the name, too |
| 07:37.08 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> i mean.. he was trying to get the newer generation to understand the addon |
| 07:37.10 | Ennea | that thing is more visually appealing anyway |
| 07:37.49 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> vqueue would have been just the same |
| 07:37.55 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> reminds them of oqueue |
| 07:37.58 | ls- | azilroka, after all these years people still don't understand the difference between lfG and lfD... |
| 07:38.07 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> or lfr |
| 07:38.16 | ls- | nah, lfr is its own thing |
| 07:38.24 | nevcairiel | LFG is one of the best things they've added to the game in the recent years, that tool is actually useful |
| 07:38.31 | ls- | but lfg and lfd are two different things |
| 07:39.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> i was kinda shitty about the lfr part but then I was like so it's not a heroic kill so.. it doesn't matter |
| 07:39.10 | ls- | lfd is the automatic one w/ no interractions and whatnot brownie points |
| 07:39.33 | ls- | damn, son... |
| 07:39.42 | ls- | where did brownie points come from? |
| 07:39.53 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> you eating brownies? |
| 07:40.01 | Ennea | mmm |
| 07:40.02 | Ennea | brownies |
| 07:40.10 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> ls isn't sharing |
| 07:40.14 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> sharing is caring |
| 07:40.18 | ls- | I really should replace my rmb switch, it triggers on its own |
| 07:40.32 | Ennea | i replaced my mouse wheel switch recently |
| 07:40.39 | Ennea | desoldering the old one was a pain in the ass |
| 07:40.41 | ls- | so it ends up triggering all kinds of things from the context menus |
| 07:41.13 | ls- | yeah, my mouse has all of its switches replaced at this point, but rmb switch is getting wonky again |
| 07:41.31 | nevcairiel | I would just buy a new mouse at that point = P |
| 07:42.05 | ls- | 0.03c for a switch vs $80 for a mouse |
| 07:42.50 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> should just make a socket for it |
| 07:43.10 | ls- | I live in asia, so getting switches is pisseasy and cheap |
| 07:43.23 | ls- | I can buy a pack of 100 switches for $3 |
| 07:43.34 | ls- | well, $3-15 |
| 07:43.42 | ls- | depends on a brand and whatnot |
| 07:44.23 | ls- | talking about mouse switches, obv, kb switches are more expensive |
| 07:45.13 | Ennea | ls-, 0.03c for a switch? |
| 07:45.18 | Ennea | the hell kinda switches are you buying |
| 07:45.28 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> asian |
| 07:45.48 | Ennea | the japanese omrons i got to replace my faulty one.. well, i paid 11⬠for a 10 pack |
| 07:45.50 | ls- | that's what they cost in pc part malls in shenzhen |
| 07:45.56 | Ennea | still a lot cheaper than a new mouse, obviously |
| 07:46.05 | Ennea | but i didn't want any chinese omrons either |
| 07:46.09 | Ennea | which would've been much cheaper |
| 07:46.28 | ls- | you can even find shops that sell those by weight :V |
| 07:47.34 | Ennea | damn :D |
| 07:48.08 | ls- | those are basically ODM switches before they get brand names plastered all over |
| 07:48.58 | Ennea | well, if rmb is failing again.. |
| 07:49.02 | Ennea | when did you last replace it? |
| 07:49.29 | ls- | around a year ago |
| 07:49.42 | ls- | lasted longer than original razer switches |
| 07:49.55 | ls- | original naga switches often fail after 6mo or so |
| 07:50.03 | Ennea | ohh, razer |
| 07:50.06 | Ennea | not surprised |
| 07:50.54 | ls- | yup |
| 07:51.13 | ls- | but they make one of 2 mmo-oriented mice on the market |
| 07:51.47 | ls- | the other mouse is corsair scimitar |
| 07:52.00 | Ennea | oh, the ones with a shitload of buttons? |
| 07:52.04 | Ennea | not a fan of those |
| 07:52.06 | ls- | yeah |
| 07:52.10 | Ennea | i'm fine with my classic 5 button mice |
| 07:52.25 | ls- | those small button switches last long af |
| 07:52.34 | ls- | wish main switches lasted as long T_T |
| 07:53.19 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> hmmmmmm |
| 07:53.32 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> thats a short life span |
| 07:53.49 | ls- | I actually like mmo mice, I also use those buttons in my ides/editors |
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| 07:54.00 | Ennea | the huano switches in my zowie fk2 have lasted for a year and a half now already |
| 07:54.15 | Ennea | the ones in my older fk2, well.. |
| 07:54.20 | Ennea | the one i replaced the middle click in |
| 07:54.29 | Ennea | lmb and rmb still going strong. middle click huano is now an omron ;D |
| 08:24.05 | sylvanaar | I wish classic was open. I want to do a lfg tool now |
| 08:24.51 | sylvanaar | The goal will be that you never have to talk to another player. |
| 08:24.55 | Ennea | only 38 hours left ;) |
| 08:25.47 | sylvanaar | And, it will also eat babies and drink tears |
| 08:25.59 | Ennea | ohh |
| 08:26.02 | Ennea | selling points |
| 08:26.09 | sylvanaar | Yes |
| 08:27.51 | sylvanaar | Stupid luddites |
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| 08:29.26 | sylvanaar | No programable keyboard or mouse either. In fact everyone must play on a potato |
| 08:30.31 | sylvanaar | Warlocks cant use fear either, because thatâs not fair |
| 08:30.53 | sylvanaar | I miss classic |
| 08:31.11 | sylvanaar | I feel my inner grouch coming back |
| 08:31.40 | Ennea | :D |
| 08:32.30 | sylvanaar | I remember being so emo back then. I would get upset about anything |
| 08:33.08 | sylvanaar | Gotta have the full classic experience! |
| 08:33.25 | ls- | well, the upcoming api changes made you feel upset |
| 08:33.34 | Ennea | full classic experience? |
| 08:33.36 | Ennea | alright everyone |
| 08:33.37 | ls- | that's what I call immersion! |
| 08:33.39 | Ennea | somebody revive glider |
| 08:34.07 | Ennea | we're also gonna need bwh again |
| 08:36.35 | ls- | well, bwh usage became a bannable offence back in wotlk, I think |
| 08:36.41 | ls- | so that's not gonna fly |
| 08:38.23 | Ennea | bwh was bannable during vanilla already |
| 08:38.34 | Ennea | i'd be surprised if they only started banning teleport hacks during wotlk :) |
| 08:39.23 | ls- | nah, they're fairly lenient in vanilla |
| 08:39.36 | Ennea | they introduced warden in vanilla |
| 08:39.46 | Ennea | my brother got his first account banned because of bwh |
| 08:39.50 | Ennea | can't remember what patch though |
| 08:39.57 | ls- | heh |
| 08:40.05 | ls- | prob after 1.7 or something |
| 08:40.15 | Ennea | i think it was earlier to be honest.. but i'm not sure |
| 08:40.46 | Ennea | but yea.. having unlimited instance resets due to that not being an official feature yet |
| 08:40.51 | Ennea | and two rich thorium veins inside an instance |
| 08:40.54 | Ennea | made for some quick cash |
| 08:41.59 | Ennea | ohhhh |
| 08:42.17 | Ennea | looking up bwh again confirms i was wrong about something in the classic stress test though |
| 08:42.31 | Ennea | i thought they fucked up backwards run speed |
| 08:42.42 | Ennea | but i guess it was only the animations that were playing faster than back in vanilla |
| 08:42.57 | Ennea | this page containing the bwh source code and some info about player speeds confirms that 4.5 is the correct backwards run speed |
| 08:43.34 | bluspacecow | bwh ? wat dat ? |
| 08:44.01 | Ennea | bubba's warcraft hack. used to be a teleport, speed and some other stuff hack back in vanilla |
| 08:45.04 | ls- | it's often used by gold sellers for its 0 gravity thingy, so they could draw stuff w/ chars in the air :D |
| 08:46.59 | ls- | I really don't remember blizz super strict about bwh in vanilla T_T and warden was shit back then as well |
| 08:47.26 | Ennea | but it was introduced, and seemingly nobody really expected it |
| 08:47.47 | Ennea | nobody was on the lookout, so the first big ban wave got everybody that previously used bwh |
| 08:48.30 | ls- | there's a huge leap in warden's development in wotlk I think, it's decent enough so even PS core devs started repurposing for their own pservers :V |
| 08:48.37 | Ennea | ohh, i can slightly pinpoint it perhaps |
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| 08:49.16 | Ennea | damn, what was that last zul gurub boss called.. |
| 08:49.21 | Ennea | hakkar? |
| 08:49.53 | Ennea | anyway, i remember my brother soloing the guy using bwh. so the ban wave was at some point after zl gurub was already released at least |
| 08:50.03 | Ennea | so you were right. after 1.7 |
| 08:50.08 | ls- | heh |
| 08:50.36 | ls- | muh memory isn't that bad, yet... |
| 08:50.40 | Ennea | :D |
| 08:52.01 | ls- | unless you're doing something outrageous w/ bwh, you weren't risking that much |
| 08:52.07 | ls- | anyway, gym time \o/ |
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| 12:21.07 | sylvanaar | who all is doing a group finder addon? |
| 12:25.28 | sylvanaar | I would like to please request that if you use the who system you use WhoLib |
| 12:28.06 | sylvanaar | I am migrating it to GitHub atm |
| 12:30.37 | Gnarfoz | u wot |
| 12:30.58 | Gnarfoz | if you're talking about Classic, Blizzard already banned an LFG addon, so don't waste your time, I'd say |
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| 12:31.37 | sylvanaar | did they? |
| 12:32.01 | Gnarfoz | https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/classic-lfg/72495/475 |
| 12:32.22 | Ennea | they didn't ban the addon |
| 12:32.31 | Ennea | they said they'll add restrictions to the api |
| 12:32.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah I read something else yesterday |
| 12:33.03 | Gnarfoz | probably from someone who didn't know what the difference is |
| 12:36.36 | sylvanaar | so what are the restrictions? |
| 12:37.01 | Ennea | not known yet |
| 12:37.09 | Ennea | they didn't give any details on what they want to restrict |
| 12:37.28 | sylvanaar | ok - well - please everyone use WhoLib - if you use the who API |
| 12:39.34 | Ennea | i sure as hell ain't gonna write any code myself where a perfectly fine library already exists |
| 12:39.39 | Ennea | so if i ever need to, i will ;) |
| 12:40.58 | foxlit | sylvanaar: so what are the restrictions? << the twitter rumors are that you can't access message text in public channels. |
| 12:41.23 | Ennea | >rumors |
| 12:41.25 | Ennea | cool story, bro |
| 12:41.53 | foxlit | sigh. |
| 12:41.58 | Ennea | just saying |
| 12:42.05 | Ennea | rumors are worth nothing |
| 12:44.19 | foxlit | https://twitter.com/EllypseCelwe/status/1165340533075709955 |
| 12:44.48 | sylvanaar | uh, won't that break a million addons |
| 12:44.57 | foxlit | yes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. |
| 12:45.23 | Ennea | so who's ellypse, and where do they have their information from? |
| 12:46.50 | foxlit | let's put it this way: I trust that Ellypse isn't lying about communicating with blizzard, and I trust that Ellypse is basically competent to summarize the technical implications. The change also seems consistent with what I would expect them to do if their stated goal is "no streamlined group-finding systems" |
| 12:54.16 | sylvanaar | hopefully it will just be scrambled |
| 12:54.35 | sylvanaar | because it will break prat |
| 12:54.50 | ls- | the spirit of classic > all |
| 12:55.27 | ls- | what is the spirit of classic though? we don't know... it's something subjective |
| 12:55.39 | sylvanaar | you click on the buttons |
| 12:55.57 | sylvanaar | aggro all the mobs |
| 12:56.01 | sylvanaar | ninja loot |
| 12:57.09 | foxlit | if you had to guess an implementation, they already have protected text in the form of |k strings. |
| 12:57.39 | Ketho | RIP for my boi BadBoy |
| 12:57.44 | Ketho | dead before it even started |
| 12:57.54 | ls- | yeah, that's gonna be rough if they decide to use those |
| 12:58.04 | foxlit | so the path of least resistance is to fire all the same events but just replace the message arg with a giant placeholder token. |
| 12:58.05 | ls- | well, it'll live for a couple of weeks |
| 12:59.34 | sylvanaar | ok - |k strings wont be too bad - I'll just have to not mess with them |
| 13:03.10 | ls- | well, you can't really mess w/ them anyway |
| 13:04.06 | sylvanaar | Do you really have to release a separate version of the addon for classic in order for it to show up on say twitch client? |
| 13:04.19 | sylvanaar | or is there a toc setting that says / works on classic |
| 13:07.20 | ls- | you can specify for which version of wow your addon is, there's separate dropdowns for wow and wow classic |
| 13:08.00 | sylvanaar | I think that went to the wrong channel - I set it on wowi - are you talking wowi or curse |
| 13:08.37 | ls- | well, you mentioned twitch client, so curse :P |
| 13:09.12 | ls- | I didn't even bother uploading classic addons on wowi because you kinda have to create a separate project there |
| 13:09.38 | sylvanaar | can you help me find the dropdown?> |
| 13:09.43 | sylvanaar | i can't see it |
| 13:10.27 | ls- | where? on curse? |
| 13:10.58 | sylvanaar | so how do I tell curse that my addon works on classic |
| 13:11.27 | Simca_ | edit the file upload, add classic to the list of supported versions |
| 13:11.56 | Simca_ | at least that's what'd i suspect from past |
| 13:12.28 | ls- | when you're uploading a file, there's 2 dropdowns right above the submit button https://i.imgur.com/5mV29pQ.png |
| 13:12.30 | foxlit | if you upload your own zips, you can't really miss the dropdowns. |
| 13:12.51 | foxlit | if you use the packager, ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 13:14.14 | sylvanaar | oh i see |
| 13:14.15 | sylvanaar | see |
| 13:14.26 | sylvanaar | well that blows |
| 13:14.53 | ls- | you can change it after uploading your files as well |
| 13:18.55 | sylvanaar | Does anyone support cf anymore? |
| 13:19.23 | sylvanaar | The link to set up github webhooks is dead |
| 13:20.09 | foxlit | https://authors.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/projects/3451-automatic-packaging |
| 13:20.37 | sylvanaar | Thanks a lot |
| 13:21.07 | foxlit | (google for the keywords; they didn't really update internal links following the latest redesign) |
| 13:22.45 | sylvanaar | Haha |
| 13:24.10 | sylvanaar | I think todayâs project might be to migrate all my repos off there |
| 13:26.16 | Ennea | the documentation on escape sequences on the wiki has |k listed for bnet friend names. are they used for anything else on retail? |
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| 13:34.46 | sylvanaar | It was initially for real names |
| 13:34.57 | ls- | communities |
| 13:35.00 | ls- | they use it there |
| 13:35.50 | ls- | senders' names and messages are |k-ed there |
| 13:36.41 | ls- | in code all you see is |Kq1234|k or w/e |
| 13:40.16 | Ennea | hm |
| 13:45.12 | sylvanaar | Meh. Too easy to work around |
| 13:45.23 | sylvanaar | Just make raids for people lfg |
| 13:46.06 | sylvanaar | Solves the not in capitol city issue too |
| 13:47.23 | sylvanaar | Need someone whisper someone in the raid to get a list of people |
| 13:50.06 | Ennea | :D |
| 13:50.23 | foxlit | here's a free prediction: if anyone actually does work around this at scale, they'll just swing the same hammer at remaining comms in an easy hotfix. |
| 13:51.11 | Ennea | if they will really just limit chat parsing abilities |
| 13:51.14 | Ennea | i will be confused |
| 13:51.15 | Ennea | big time |
| 13:51.19 | Ennea | especially if they leave addon messages untouched |
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| 13:54.11 | Meorawr | They can restrict comms without totally breaking them, but yeah it'd be nice if we could *not* force their hand on this. |
| 13:59.23 | sylvanaar | don't look at me - I am not gonna be the bad guy |
| 14:01.14 | sylvanaar | I was gonna bring back call-to-arms - but now that I have heard this - I won't bother |
| 14:01.37 | ls- | idk, on the one hand I'm against such restrictions, on the other hand I wouldn't mind if blizz |k-ed everything and restricted comms, so people in classic wouldn't be able to use even something like badboy |
| 14:01.56 | ls- | let them drown is spam |
| 14:02.02 | sylvanaar | hahaha |
| 14:02.45 | sylvanaar | I am gonna bring back regenfu - just need to update it to use modern libs |
| 14:03.58 | sylvanaar | that seems more productive |
| 14:04.23 | Ennea | what's regenfu? |
| 14:18.58 | sylvanaar | loads of mana regen information |
| 14:19.31 | sylvanaar | was basically my first addon |
| 14:20.05 | sylvanaar | https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/94/397/WoWScrnShot_111206_115925.jpg |
| 14:21.38 | sylvanaar | included a FSR bar |
| 14:22.11 | sylvanaar | I assume we will be dealing with the FSR again |
| 14:33.45 | Ennea | ahh |
| 14:33.48 | Ennea | yea, damn right we will |
| 14:33.53 | Ennea | that looks pretty nice |
| 14:50.13 | sylvanaar | one down - https://github.com/sylvanaar/who-lib |
| 15:04.02 | sylvanaar | Hey Stanzilla someone wrote a vscode extension i see |
| 15:04.55 | sylvanaar | nice |
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| 15:23.28 | nevcairiel | the full wow vscode extension is sorta useless |
| 15:23.34 | nevcairiel | i rather use the Lua one |
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| 15:33.46 | sylvanaar | i use my lua stuff for intellij - but for small edits ill use vscode |
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| 15:42.50 | sylvanaar | I guess #@retail@ is unique to the bigwigs packager |
| 15:57.53 | sylvanaar | anyone want to be kind enough to carry me in eternal palace so i can fix a prat bug |
| 15:57.58 | sylvanaar | For example on the Sivara fight in Eternal Palace, people have weakauras that say either the triangle or the square depending on their infusion, the game freezes up for a few second seach time it happens. |
| 15:58.13 | sylvanaar | "prat bug" |
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| 15:59.29 | netameta | So is classic out today at midnight ? |
| 15:59.39 | netameta | or tmr at midnight ? |
| 15:59.51 | znf | sylvanaar, LFR? |
| 16:00.12 | sylvanaar | i dont have the ilvl |
| 16:00.17 | sylvanaar | i don't play bfa |
| 16:00.27 | znf | ... |
| 16:00.31 | znf | "can not reproduce" |
| 16:00.55 | sylvanaar | you would like my varza znf |
| 16:01.09 | znf | no |
| 16:01.24 | sylvanaar | it is really good |
| 16:01.41 | sylvanaar | it brings all the boys to the yard |
| 16:02.31 | sylvanaar | i hope people got that reference.... |
| 16:02.39 | sylvanaar | sounds bad |
| 16:07.17 | sylvanaar | netmeta: tuesday at midnight |
| 16:07.32 | sylvanaar | there is a literal countdown timer |
| 16:08.04 | netameta | sylvanaar teusday at midnight it will be the 28th |
| 16:08.25 | netameta | its either sunday at midnight, or monday, teusday its not |
| 16:08.26 | sylvanaar | is with the boys in the yard |
| 16:08.47 | sylvanaar | monday at 11:59 |
| 16:08.53 | netameta | https://www.wowclassiccountdown.com/ |
| 16:09.02 | netameta | going by this, monday at midnight |
| 16:09.03 | netameta | yaps |
| 16:13.53 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> Ketho, looks like the trashed that topic? |
| 16:14.38 | Ennea | netameta, what, you don't have a timer set yet? ;p |
| 16:15.23 | Ennea | Ketho, ah, you're in here again. i wanted to thank you for that PR on spew |
| 16:16.01 | sylvanaar | man - people sure like to report bugs - but ask their help - no way |
| 16:16.29 | Ennea | users are terrible ;D |
| 16:17.42 | sylvanaar | lol i got invited via the group finder |
| 16:20.25 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> lol they deleted the topic |
| 16:21.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:26.18 | ls- | which one? |
| 16:26.49 | sylvanaar | both - my group finder and the addons should be banned QQ |
| 16:28.31 | netameta | ennea timer for what ? |
| 16:28.38 | Ennea | for classic release |
| 16:28.39 | Ennea | duh |
| 16:28.47 | ls- | I still have no idea what topics y'all are talking about :D |
| 16:28.51 | netameta | Not sure what you mean |
| 16:28.54 | Ennea | 29 hours, 30 minutes and 55 seconds left |
| 16:29.35 | netameta | Ah, well i am excited about it but not to the point i will change my schedue to play it |
| 16:30.09 | netameta | (Obviously a lie) - took 2 weeks off, cant wait |
| 16:30.25 | netameta | For me it will be around 5pm |
| 16:31.47 | Ennea | it's midnight for me |
| 16:31.55 | Ennea | which just means i'll be at work a little tired the day after :) |
| 16:33.22 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> the ban all addons one ls |
| 16:33.42 | Ennea | in the blizz forums? |
| 16:33.47 | Ennea | well at least they got rid of that |
| 16:33.59 | ls- | haven't seen it, but if it's gone, nothing of value was lost |
| 16:34.29 | Ennea | definitely not |
| 16:34.40 | Ennea | hm |
| 16:34.49 | Ennea | i'd like to see the look on people's faces |
| 16:34.57 | Ennea | when you write an addon that replicates 1.0's ui |
| 16:35.00 | Ennea | and force it down their throats |
| 16:35.18 | Funkeh` | 30fps, high ping |
| 16:35.27 | Ennea | just the ui |
| 16:35.34 | Ennea | you know |
| 16:35.36 | Ennea | one action bar |
| 16:35.39 | Funkeh` | shit servers, nah jk that aint changed |
| 16:35.42 | Ennea | all the other fun :) |
| 16:35.46 | sylvanaar | i give up - fuck it |
| 16:35.53 | Ennea | hm, were they ever really that shit? |
| 16:35.55 | Ennea | sylvanaar, with what? |
| 16:36.03 | sylvanaar | trying to fix this issue |
| 16:36.25 | netameta | sylvanaar, what issue ? |
| 16:36.29 | Ennea | oh, the prat one |
| 16:36.42 | Ennea | honestly, if the bug report is half-assed and they aren't willing to assist you |
| 16:36.49 | Ennea | no need to spend too much time on it |
| 16:36.49 | sylvanaar | Love the addon, but it becomes completely unusable if you've got any number of people with weakauras that output to chat. For example on the Sivara fight in Eternal Palace, people have weakauras that say either the triangle or the square depending on their infusion, the game freezes up for a few second seach time it happens. It's even more noticeable on the Azshara fight, people have a weakaura that yells something to do with |
| 16:36.50 | sylvanaar | their decrees (i.e move, don't move, soak, group, etc), and the game will drop to lower than 1 frame every 5 seconds if you've got a group above 20 people. Would love to use it but it's just not possible until something's done about that issue. |
| 16:37.17 | sylvanaar | maybe its WA |
| 16:37.25 | sylvanaar | that's gonna be my story |
| 16:37.32 | Ennea | ask them to repeat the fight with the same/a similar group without prat |
| 16:37.34 | sylvanaar | write less shitty WA |
| 16:37.38 | Ennea | if they don't wanna.. whatever |
| 16:37.51 | Ennea | also, why is their weakauras spitting out shit in readable chat |
| 16:38.17 | sylvanaar | sylvanaar ANGRY!!! RAWR! |
| 16:38.28 | Ennea | :D |
| 16:38.35 | Ennea | looks like they aggroed you |
| 16:38.38 | Ennea | aggroed? aggrod? |
| 16:38.40 | Ennea | aggro'd? |
| 16:38.42 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:38.48 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> choo choo |
| 16:40.27 | ls- | ah, love it when two addons do something at the same time and people blame the wrong one, had the same issue w/ my toasts and tsm, tsm often causes fps drops when you loot stuff, but people think it's toasts that are causing those simply because they see a toast pop up :V |
| 16:40.55 | ls- | told them to test it w/ tsm disabled, their mind was blown |
| 16:41.11 | Ennea | now i'm curious |
| 16:41.23 | Ennea | what's tsm? and why the hell does it cause frame drops _often_ when looting things |
| 16:41.26 | Ennea | ._. |
| 16:41.39 | ls- | tradeskillmaster |
| 16:41.50 | ls- | awesome, but heavy af addon |
| 16:42.10 | Ennea | what does it do when looting that's so resource hungry? |
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| 16:43.29 | ls- | it does a lot of things |
| 16:44.28 | ls- | I honestly cba to describe what it does, just google it :D |
| 16:44.42 | ls- | ah, crafting, bag logging, etc |
| 16:45.06 | ls- | the ultimate suite for an AH goblin :V |
| 16:45.35 | ls- | https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tradeskill-master |
| 16:45.41 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> i'm sure it could be optimized to not do that |
| 16:46.17 | Ennea | i saw the description, i'm just curious what exactly happens when looting to cause slowdowns |
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| 17:06.12 | netameta | If battle shout really the way he said it is, you get a warlock/hunter in group and mage. and simple stick everyone close and spam battle shout |
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| 17:22.23 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> So WarcraftMemes, posted about ClassicLFG. I gave them a good response. |
| 17:22.56 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> LFG = Looking For Group. Been in the game since forever. LFD = Looking For Dungeon. A tool that was added in Wrath of the Lich King. LFR = Looking For Raid. A tool that was added in Cataclysm. You guys really need to know the difference. WarcraftMemes |
| 17:26.13 | ls- | you're wasting your time |
| 17:26.21 | humfras | I made a sizeable post in the german forum regarding the vanilla LFG... The first person to mention the LFG was trashed as "newb who played on a pserver" ... I basically executed that icehole with knowledge ;) |
| 17:26.22 | ls- | those people don't care about facts |
| 17:26.58 | humfras | They care when you rub it in their faces. Doesn't hold for long though... |
| 17:27.16 | Ennea | i still can't post on the forums, because my retail characters don't show up in the list.. |
| 17:29.12 | humfras | Have you tried to logout and login in the forum (clearing your browser's cache might help aswell) |
| 17:30.11 | Ennea | i have. a support ticket that's linked also suggests to log into a char |
| 17:30.19 | Ennea | so i downloaded parts of the retail client, until it was "playable" |
| 17:30.29 | Ennea | logged in, sat around a minute or two |
| 17:30.31 | Ennea | logged back out |
| 17:30.33 | Ennea | still nothing |
| 17:31.00 | humfras | We had some lenghty discussions regarding missing character information in the new forum. It craves for a logout/login quite regularly. |
| 17:31.37 | Ennea | ah, and additional logout/login in the forums finally worked |
| 17:31.54 | Ennea | guess it needed some more time after me logging into the char |
| 17:33.10 | humfras | The forum only really updates character data when you login. So anytime something is wrong with your forum characters, do a relog. |
| 17:33.21 | Ennea | good to know, thanks ^_^ |
| 17:33.57 | humfras | Some of us german MVPs weren't properly detected for some days (even months after launch). |
| 17:34.37 | humfras | To be fair, the forum is WIP. |
| 17:35.49 | Ennea | how WIP are we talking? |
| 17:36.12 | Ennea | i've only really started checking the forums again when the classic stress test went live |
| 17:36.29 | Ennea | when was the current iteration of it rolled out? |
| 17:37.09 | humfras | It's basically working fine atm. But they implemented and still implement some bells and whistles that might create some minor issues. |
| 17:37.34 | Ennea | it's pretty cool, in any case |
| 17:37.43 | Ennea | infinite scrolling with that handy scroll bar thingy |
| 17:37.47 | Ennea | very elegant solution |
| 17:38.45 | humfras | Definitely |
| 17:39.45 | Ennea | also, hi, fellow german :) |
| 17:40.51 | humfras | :) |
| 17:50.28 | sylvanaar | I found the dropdown ! You can add support after the packager builds your zip |
| 17:50.44 | sylvanaar | for classic |
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| 17:52.36 | humfras | sylvanaar, could you be so kind to have a quick look at my message? :) |
| 17:59.35 | sylvanaar | WhoLib users - please note the new URL for your pkgmeta - or whatever https://github.com/sylvanaar/who-lib.git |
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| 18:01.22 | MooreaTv | I guess spam from gold sellers is the spirit of classic (if blizz goes nuclear and |K all chat text) |
| 18:02.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> lol truth |
| 18:03.26 | humfras | Well, if they can't make goldseller's floating corpses work, it's not true Vanilla! |
| 18:03.45 | MooreaTv | lol the flying gnomes, good times |
| 18:05.36 | MooreaTv | sylvanaar- why didn't you import the commit history ? |
| 18:05.58 | MooreaTv | (not too late to redo the import) |
| 18:06.34 | sylvanaar | you are right - i regret it |
| 18:07.08 | MooreaTv | just redo it, you can rename this one as -test and make a new repo, using the built in import feature |
| 18:07.23 | MooreaTv | then re apply your patches you did since |
| 18:07.46 | MooreaTv | github's import is good , lets you map committers etc |
| 18:08.07 | sylvanaar | yeah, but i have modified it since import |
| 18:08.25 | MooreaTv | yes so you can just re apply from -test to new non test |
| 18:09.17 | sylvanaar | so what - delete and start over? |
| 18:09.41 | MooreaTv | not delete, rename the bad/current one, so it's not lost until the new one has all the changes |
| 18:10.02 | MooreaTv | then make a new one under same name |
| 18:11.48 | MooreaTv | btw this is what the imported but not mapped to github users (because I didn't know your/humfras's github) look like https://github.com/mooreatv/WhoLib (I'll delete it after you get yours fully setup) |
| 18:12.42 | sylvanaar | im doing it |
| 18:12.46 | sylvanaar | lets see if it works |
| 18:12.56 | MooreaTv | btw isn't LibWho the right name ? (vs who-lib ? i was confused between addon name etc) |
| 18:16.31 | sylvanaar | it has always been that way |
| 18:17.08 | sylvanaar | it is really wholib - but they style back in the day was Lib* |
| 18:17.48 | MooreaTv | if it matches the toc it probably is less confusing? |
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| 18:18.01 | MooreaTv | but I guess that's a different issue |
| 18:19.25 | sylvanaar | which is your name |
| 18:20.42 | sylvanaar | to link |
| 18:21.24 | MooreaTv | ? |
| 18:23.12 | MooreaTv | (you're asking humfras I guess) |
| 18:25.26 | sylvanaar | ok, so I reimported it |
| 18:37.44 | MooreaTv | cheers! does humfras have a githgub? |
| 18:38.45 | MooreaTv | btw side note, if you'll have multiple contributors you could create an org for it ie github.com/LibWho/LibWho or some such |
| 18:39.40 | MooreaTv | (you can transfer repo to the org whenever and it keeps redirects (unless cf stuff github tends to work well) so old url work too) |
| 19:26.32 | sylvanaar | well I don't think that many people use it - but they should! |
| 19:26.48 | sylvanaar | they are quite content living on the edge |
| 19:27.14 | sylvanaar | :D |
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| 19:36.36 | Cruciformer | Hello #wowuidev - very long time no chat :) |
| 19:37.19 | mikma | are classic realms connected? |
| 19:37.29 | mikma | can't remember from the beta |
| 19:37.52 | MooreaTv | one of my addons has an optional dep on libwho |
| 19:38.02 | Cruciformer | mikma: I believe they are not. |
| 19:38.19 | Meorawr | Depends how we define "connected"; are they connected to a power source? Sure. Are they connected such that players on one realm can see/join groups from another? No. |
| 19:38.31 | Cruciformer | However what was interesting was the blizzui code still used Ambiguate() which makes me think it will be coming. |
| 19:38.34 | MooreaTv | mikma- depends what you mean but basically no, at least today they are big individual super server types |
| 19:39.12 | MooreaTv | well when my server of choice becomes a dead zone, I hope they connect it to a big one :) |
| 19:39.16 | Meorawr | I can see connected server tech being used to bring low pop servers back together, I think they might have overshot the mark with the PvP realm explosion a bit. |
| 19:39.23 | MooreaTv | but that's not the "spirit of classic" |
| 19:39.28 | Meorawr | But I wouldn't read into usage of Ambiguate signalling that. |
| 19:39.32 | Cruciformer | Does anyone know what Bliz did to disable ClassicLFG? My mod uses the addon / guild / raid chat channels and I am worried they messes with those. |
| 19:39.44 | Meorawr | More that it's just a remnant of modern UI code + established practices at this point. |
| 19:40.23 | Cruciformer | Meorawr: fair point. |
| 19:40.33 | Cruciformer | s/messes/messed/g |
| 19:40.40 | mikma | i'm having a huge dilemma, starting to play with my 9 year old kid, and don't know what's a proper good starter character... |
| 19:40.59 | Cruciformer | mikma" druid. Kids love the shapeshift thing. |
| 19:41.11 | mikma | i most def need to be running a druid, but i'm thinking either hunter or warlock. hunter's pets are nasty in classic |
| 19:41.34 | mikma | cruciformer: yeah but the mechanics of druid might be too much for kid of that age |
| 19:41.55 | mikma | i was thinking it's druid+hunter or paladin+warlock |
| 19:41.58 | Meorawr | We'll know the specifics of those changes in a few days, they had a few options on the table. The current approach offered was to limit the ability to parse public chat from global channels like General/LFG or custom ones, but to leave party/raid ones alone. |
| 19:42.05 | Cruciformer | If you're min/maxing sure - but just playing casually as a 9-year old? Don't think so. |
| 19:42.08 | Meorawr | Of course nothing is set in stone and this could all change at a moments notice. |
| 19:42.38 | mikma | cruciformer: casually, but still planning on teaching how to play it properly, instancing and so on |
| 19:43.02 | Cruciformer | I would imagine removing teh addon / raid / guild chat channels would break a lot of things. |
| 19:44.47 | Cruciformer | I am just thrilled to death that master looter is back. I hope they dont remove *that* for this classic journey. |
| 19:48.58 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> but loot ninjas will destroy my classic experience.. we need to have personal loot |
| 19:50.01 | Cruciformer | If you havent had loot ninja'ed you havent had a classic wow experience at all :P |
| 19:50.40 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> but it will ruin my experience |
| 19:50.44 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> ð¦ |
| 19:51.00 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> You know... I'm kidding, right? |
| 19:51.06 | Cruciformer | I do :) |
| 19:51.39 | Cruciformer | well I didnt KNOW - I assumed. Which for me usually equates to the same thing. |
| 19:56.57 | sylvanaar | MooreaTv: OptionalDeps won't be affected - it is only if you embed it, and we told everyone not to do that |
| 19:57.45 | MooreaTv | yeah I know. though folks that do rely on the feature (I don't) probably do embed it no ? (or they mark it as a dep?) |
| 19:57.48 | sylvanaar | but if you do - just update your .pkgmeta with the new URL |
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| 22:37.34 | netameta | Loot ninjas need to be executed |
| 22:37.51 | netameta | no other punishment fit the crime ! |
| 22:38.52 | netameta | The trick is the moment you get ninjaed, to spam all big channels, make the fucker unable to play on the server |
| 22:47.34 | sylvanaar | moved several addons today to github - now if you want to contribute - send a pr https://github.com/sylvanaar/addon-control-panel https://github.com/sylvanaar/wow-instant-messenger https://github.com/sylvanaar/who-lib https://github.com/sylvanaar/prat-3-0 https://github.com/sylvanaar/broker-wholib |
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| 23:14.54 | Dejablue | Anyone know what flags there are other than "MONCHROME", OUTLINE", "THINOUTLINE"? |
| 23:15.04 | Dejablue | font flags that is. |
| 23:15.32 | Dejablue | I am trying to match the character stats text but it has a very tiny outline. |
| 23:15.53 | Dejablue | i can't find shadow offsets or scale either any tips? Thanks |
| 23:19.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> for the classic character pane? |
| 23:22.12 | Dejablue | yes |
| 23:23.07 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> :SetShadowOffset(1, -1) :SetShadowColor(0, 0, 0) |
| 23:23.23 | Dejablue | Thanks Ill try that |
| 23:23.43 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> don't use a flag and it should be good |
| 23:25.05 | Dejablue | Looks perfect |
| 23:26.36 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> You can use any color you want.. I just converted the xml lines to lua ð |
| 23:27.10 | Dejablue | Could I trouble someone to tell me if movement speed and repair total are the same color as the other stats? I am color blind so i cant tell and using gimp, even make them very large still gives a wide range of shades with color picker. |
| 23:27.12 | Dejablue | https://i.imgur.com/ZQVqx7U.jpg |
| 23:27.36 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> looks good to me |
| 23:27.57 | Dejablue | Cool cool |
| 23:28.07 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> the money and speed don't look like they have the shadow applied tho |
| 23:28.26 | Dejablue | Yeah lemme see if i can make it bigger |
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