| 00:00.23 | Mr_Rabies | if i knew i'd help you but you can run an event trace and find out yourself |
| 00:00.35 | Mr_Rabies | filter out the junk that fires regularly |
| 00:01.14 | Mr_Rabies | /etrace |
| 00:01.25 | netameta | is that an addon ? |
| 00:01.42 | Mr_Rabies | nope, built into wow |
| 00:01.55 | Mr_Rabies | click on an event and hit the little red x to filter it for that session |
| 00:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | it'll show every event that fires |
| 00:03.20 | netameta | Ah wow thanks |
| 00:03.49 | netameta | So now just wait for AFK |
| 00:04.29 | netameta | hmm so afk is just a message |
| 00:05.59 | Mr_Rabies | i'm glad i've picked up just enough information to help someone out in here, despite never making anything more complicated than a simple weakaura in here |
| 00:06.11 | Mr_Rabies | and i guess old school pitbull scripting back in the day :v |
| 00:12.23 | netameta | You wrote weakaura ? |
| 00:14.31 | Mr_Rabies | no |
| 00:14.41 | Mr_Rabies | i made some weakauras in weakaura :v |
| 00:14.45 | Mr_Rabies | simple stuff mostly |
| 00:16.17 | Mr_Rabies | i think the most complicated thing was writing one that brought in the image and audio on this video for a friend when his pistol shot proc thing went off |
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| 00:18.26 | netameta | i see |
| 00:19.47 | netameta | hhm Cant use on FLAG_Changeed |
| 00:20.07 | netameta | arguments doesnt tell you what flags, i guess i could check |
| 00:38.10 | netameta | SendChatMessage(message, "WHISPER", "Common", value); get you out of afk |
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| 02:14.09 | netameta | Ah, so sending a SendChatMessage(message, "WHISPER", "Common", value); - in public channel keeps char form going afk/ logging off it seems |
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| 04:02.13 | netameta | Hmm actually its always do that - very weird |
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| 08:32.03 | sylvanaar | have i travelled back in time |
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| 09:12.26 | Industrial | Hi guys, preparing for 1.13 I've dusted off my 1.12 addon set and my backported-from-7.0 all in one 1.12 addon =) |
| 09:13.19 | Industrial | When running `wine WoW.exe -help` I saw the opengl support has ended. How are people playing now on linux? I'm getting the black screen and no sound thing. |
| 09:23.27 | Maldivia | Industrial: considering 1.13 is based on 8.1(ish), dusting of the 1.12s might not be the way to go :D |
| 09:38.11 | nevcairiel | Check the Wine app database, information about 8.1/8.2 retail applies to 1.13 equally. You can even run WoW on Wine with DX12 these days through VKD3D or DXVK |
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| 09:39.29 | nevcairiel | although the classic client seems to lack the graphics API dropdown, so maybe its only 11 |
| 09:44.26 | Maldivia | haven't checked the recently, but a few months ago only D3D11 was available for gxApi |
| 11:05.06 | nevcairiel | not like classic is graphically intensive, so maybe they wanted to cut down on maintenance and only ship the proven legacy d3d11 renderer |
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| 11:33.16 | VIad | winehq suggests the dx11 mode works okay with it so would assume that would be the way to proceed for 1.13 as well. |
| 12:15.59 | Industrial | Maldivia: LOL okay well I got the 7.x version around too :) |
| 12:31.30 | VIad | Industrial: did you play on mac? did you have those 800x600 mac screenshots at lowest quality back in the day? |
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| 14:56.12 | Industrial | VIad: /join #wine |
| 14:56.14 | Industrial | oops |
| 14:56.59 | Industrial | So I joined #beer afterwards, telling them people in #wine are rude. |
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| 18:34.45 | Dejablue | Yo guys. How do I get the file path of a default Ui texture? `local ECB = CharacterStatsPane.EnhancementsCategory.Background:GetTexture()` returns a number: 1400895 |
| 18:35.29 | Dejablue | i have looked in the art files for characterframe, paperdollframe, paperdollinfo frame. no avail |
| 18:47.10 | Dejablue | it's not even a table, its a number, wtf is the number for? |
| 18:47.39 | foxlit | the number is a valid reference to the texture file. |
| 18:47.45 | Ennea | looking at the api.. have you tried GetUITextureKitInfo? |
| 18:47.58 | Ennea | i noticed that about the textures as well, during the classic stress test. i just haven't ever seen it before |
| 18:48.03 | Ennea | so i can't be of much help. just a guess so far |
| 18:48.37 | Ennea | oh, textures also seem to have ah GetTextureFilePath method |
| 18:48.40 | Dejablue | I saw it first with legion IIRC but i forgeet what I did to get the name or file path ;/ |
| 18:48.41 | Ennea | s/ah/a |
| 18:57.53 | Dejablue | ? |
| 18:58.28 | Dejablue | I'm a bit of a dilettante so some of this is voer my ehad. |
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| 19:04.07 | Ennea | instead of GetTexture(), try calling GetTextureFilePath() instead |
| 19:04.26 | Ennea | Dejablue |
| 19:05.05 | Dejablue | now we got a table |
| 19:08.32 | foxlit | It returned the texture widget itself. That is hilarious. |
| 19:09.01 | Ennea | according to the wiki, you can find the corresponding paths for the ids here: https://wow.tools/files/ |
| 19:09.13 | Ennea | which i guess also means there's no function in the api to resolve the id into a path |
| 19:09.16 | Ennea | genius design ^_^ |
| 19:10.04 | Dejablue | WOW... |
| 19:10.44 | Ennea | literally! |
| 19:11.14 | Dejablue | Unbelieveable |
| 19:11.24 | Dejablue | i would ahve never found it it is a sprite glob... |
| 19:11.36 | Dejablue | Thanks for your help |
| 19:11.40 | Dejablue | Holy sheepshit |
| 19:12.04 | Ennea | glad i could help. i had no idea either, though, and all info was readily available in the wiki ;) |
| 19:12.06 | Dejablue | Now I gotta do offsets on this? I think cropping and including a art file of my own would be easier |
| 19:12.09 | Ennea | you should learn to use it! |
| 19:12.44 | Dejablue | Yeah I ahve done a lot of offsets but man their coordinate system is convoluted and completely different than the rest of the UI lol confuses the shit oputta me |
| 19:13.11 | Dejablue | best practices i guess |
| 19:13.46 | Dejablue | Now...what the hell was I even doing before I started looking for this texture, lol! |
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| 19:18.02 | foxlit | Dejablue: why did you need the file name, though? |
| 19:18.38 | Dejablue | Seeing if Classic has it in the default UI and using it to add behind the headers |
| 19:18.49 | Dejablue | Makeing DejaClassicStats |
| 19:19.22 | Dejablue | Good old fashioned dry coding yum! |
| 19:19.57 | Dejablue | Can't wait for the error vomit on launch day! |
| 19:24.51 | Dejablue | Cool that textue is in classic |
| 19:26.04 | Dejablue | What's fastest way to get coordinates ona texture? Convert blp to png and crop, get numbers and do percentage path? |
| 19:27.49 | foxlit | steal them from something else that already has to declare them to use the texture. |
| 19:29.10 | Maldivia | hmm, does classic also have texture atlas? |
| 19:30.09 | Ennea | it should, i guess |
| 19:30.41 | Maldivia | then for the texture in question, it would just be a matter of using setAtlas("UI-Character-Info-Title") ? |
| 19:31.58 | Dejablue | Yeah that works perfectly :) |
| 19:32.04 | Dejablue | I did something right today! YAY! |
| 19:33.13 | Dejablue | What's texture atlas? |
| 19:33.41 | Maldivia | Dejablue: texture coordinates |
| 19:34.53 | Maldivia | Dejablue: you were trying to use the same texture as CharacterStatsPane.EnhancementsCategory.Background, right? |
| 19:35.01 | Dejablue | Correct |
| 19:35.10 | Dejablue | My art exprot from Classic has it |
| 19:35.37 | Dejablue | The last open tress test anyway dunno if they changed it in the beta during the alst week |
| 19:36.03 | Maldivia | you wanted to use it in your own addon? |
| 19:36.52 | Ennea | who owns townlong-yak.com? those texture id and atlas dumps are immensely useful. i'm curious how they are generated |
| 19:37.16 | Dejablue | Yes using it in my own addon |
| 19:39.03 | Maldivia | Dejablue: then you should be able to just use the SetAtlas call, and it will read the atlas info to find texture path, size, and offsets |
| 19:39.43 | Dejablue | Yeah but I don't know that Classic uses the art so there may be no coordinates to get. |
| 19:39.57 | Maldivia | in all likelyhood it does :D |
| 19:40.06 | Dejablue | It is the character stat frame background art. It is not uses in Classic. |
| 19:40.22 | Dejablue | I ahve it working tho |
| 19:40.38 | Dejablue | local t=DCSPrimaryStatsHeader:CreateTexture(nil,"ARTWORK") |
| 19:40.38 | Dejablue | t:SetAllPoints(DCSPrimaryStatsHeader) |
| 19:40.38 | Dejablue | t:SetColorTexture(1, 1, 1, 1) |
| 19:40.38 | Dejablue | t:SetTexture("Interface\\PaperDollInfoFrame\\PaperDollInfoPart1"); |
| 19:40.38 | Dejablue | t:SetTexCoord(0, 0.193359375, 0.69921875, 0.736328125); |
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| 19:43.58 | Maldivia | Ennea: the atlas data is stored in the dbc files |
| 19:44.08 | Maldivia | sorry, .db2 files :D |
| 19:44.22 | Ennea | db2? what happened to good old mpq? :D |
| 19:45.20 | Maldivia | Ennea: dbc/db2 are the "database" files wow uses for all these things, for instance spell data etc |
| 19:45.48 | Maldivia | Ennea: previously they were inside the mpq files, back when they still used mpq :D |
| 19:46.01 | Ennea | how would one typically get their hands on the dbc/db2 files? |
| 19:53.39 | Maldivia | Ennea: use tools to extract them from the installation, or download them online from 3rd party sites :D |
| 19:54.00 | Ennea | well |
| 19:54.03 | Ennea | thanks, i guess |
| 19:54.13 | Maldivia | Ennea: look at wow.tools for instance |
| 20:09.18 | Dejablue | If "Offesne" is colored red what would a good "Defense" color be? |
| 20:11.23 | Maldivia | blue |
| 20:11.37 | Ennea | no color at all |
| 20:11.40 | Ennea | that is, just the default |
| 20:11.41 | Ennea | for both of them |
| 20:11.48 | Dejablue | White |
| 20:11.57 | Maldivia | or the Warrior-brown |
| 20:11.59 | Dejablue | I was gonna do them all the class color |
| 20:12.12 | Dejablue | Thinking of doing "Primary" as class color and coloring the otehrs |
| 20:12.19 | Maldivia | well, then offense should be mage-blue :D |
| 20:12.22 | Ennea | and what purpose would that serve? |
| 20:12.31 | Dejablue | Aesthjetic |
| 20:12.35 | Ennea | exactly |
| 20:12.37 | Ennea | so don't do it |
| 20:12.42 | foxlit | clearly dps is red, tanks are blue, and healers are green. |
| 20:12.46 | Ennea | doesn't sound like a good idea. most likely isn't |
| 20:12.59 | Dejablue | Who said it doesn;t sound like a good idea? |
| 20:13.03 | Ennea | i did! |
| 20:13.04 | Ennea | :D |
| 20:13.21 | Dejablue | Arent tanks like a fugly berown tho |
| 20:13.26 | Dejablue | brown* |
| 20:13.41 | foxlit | 1. /reload. 2. Open Achievements UI by clicking its microbutton. 3. Open the Quest Log by clicking its microbutton. 4. The World Map crashes. |
| 20:14.11 | Ennea | ^ what? |
| 20:14.14 | Ennea | o.O |
| 20:14.27 | Dejablue | Message: ...lizzard_MapCanvas\MapCanvas_ScrollContainerMixin.lua line 624: |
| 20:14.27 | Dejablue | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.31 | Dejablue | Yep |
| 20:14.33 | Dejablue | WOW |
| 20:14.34 | Ennea | cool |
| 20:14.37 | Ennea | capable devs |
| 20:15.14 | Dejablue | "Sorry, we couldn;t reproduce the bug. Could you provide further details on how to reproduce the bug? Thank you." |
| 20:15.44 | kd3 | blizz's stance has always been 'if you break the UI you get to keep both pieces' |
| 20:15.57 | Ennea | :D |
| 20:16.25 | Dejablue | lmao |
| 20:17.04 | foxlit | that's a reasonable stance on UI customization, but this isn't that. |
| 20:17.50 | Dejablue | Please delete your cache folder and reinstall wow. |
| 20:24.24 | foxlit | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECW_59cW4AQ7TZn.jpg:large << the in-game twitter /share is clearly meant for this sort of thing. |
| 20:25.04 | Dejablue | Noice |
| 20:26.02 | Dejablue | Ugh I made a mistake, I ahve a dental cleaning next friday.. means no snacks first weekend of Classic! :*( |
| 20:31.17 | foxlit | on a more positive note, I really really like the design of the encounter journal/adventure guide. |
| 20:32.23 | Dejablue | yeah the items lsits on each boss is lit |
| 20:32.30 | foxlit | It's like my favorite place to steal design language from. |
| 20:39.11 | Dejablue | opinions on this? Primary will be class color, Offense is red, Defense is Blue. Do the colors match sahde? Should ti sjut be white? https://i.imgur.com/qC9i2gs.jpg |
| 20:39.32 | Dejablue | Sorry my left hadn is faster than my right lol |
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| 21:17.08 | Ennea | Dejablue, leave it white, yea |
| 21:23.54 | Dejablue | Of course you would say that lol |
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| 22:05.49 | Dejablue | Hmm, I think you may be right. Here is a colored vs white mockup: https://i.imgur.com/LU4ijlo.jpg |
| 22:06.42 | Dejablue | You see with DCS I color the item level the class color for aesthetic reasons was thinking do the same, but I think it may be better as white. I may also do an average item level at the top tho |
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| 22:07.44 | Maldivia | Dejablue: I would still go with Warrior-brown for Defense :D |
| 22:08.02 | Dejablue | So you prefer the colors? |
| 22:08.21 | Maldivia | dunno - :D |
| 22:08.37 | Maldivia | the white is too white :D |
| 22:08.42 | Maldivia | and the colors are wrong also :D |
| 22:08.54 | Dejablue | how so? |
| 22:09.18 | Maldivia | that's just my opinion, which doesn't really matter :D |
| 22:09.44 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> White looks good |
| 22:09.54 | Dejablue | Ah so what colors? Druid red for offense and warrior brown for defense? |
| 22:10.36 | Dejablue | Yeah I am liking white the more I look at it |
| 22:12.26 | Dejablue | So what's everyone working on? |
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| 23:13.17 | Dejablue | anyone know offhand where the class talent tree background art is located in the default UI files? |
| 23:15.53 | kd3 | fastest way to find it is to look at what the default ui does to reference it |
| 23:17.48 | Dejablue | Cant do that as i am not in classic beta |
| 23:18.01 | Dejablue | my bad didnt say so ;/ |
| 23:18.15 | Dejablue | Looking for the original art in the classic art files |
| 23:18.58 | Dejablue | \Interface\TALENTFRAME is all the 8.2 art |
| 23:21.10 | Dejablue | Oh wait theya re in there nevermind |
| 23:22.03 | Dejablue | They are four files each lol |
| 23:33.48 | foxlit | Dejablue: Cant do that as i am not in classic beta << the client is publicly available. Launch it with a console, use ExportInterfaceFiles to extract blizzard UI code, read that code. |
| 23:34.33 | Dejablue | yeah I did that. I jsut didn;t see it before I found it now. it is 4 files lol |
| 23:34.43 | Dejablue | must have been old texture size limits |
| 23:50.20 | foxlit | So, fun fact: Interface/Icons/Temp is different between classic and retail |
| 23:52.36 | foxlit | which leads to this question, which I'm too lazy to track down an answer to at the moment: what other icons were changed? |
| 23:53.18 | Dejablue | Fuck them |
| 23:53.23 | kd3 | that seems like capital-E Effort |
| 23:53.27 | Dejablue | Didier is WoW |
| 23:53.50 | Dejablue | That pisses me off |
| 23:54.16 | Dejablue | Theya re probably using the icon as a tax haven |
| 23:56.05 | Dejablue | That is my initial reaction anyway lol |
