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00:02.58netametahttps://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetPlayerInfoByGUID - are incorrect
00:03.17netametahttps://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/API_GetPlayerInfoByGUID - is correct
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00:19.46Kethoit was edited from engClass to raceId. anyway I updated it
00:20.28Kethoops, engClass to classId
00:25.18foxlit(examples of return values would be more useful than maybe-consistent-with-other-pages names -- 'e.g. "DRUID"' vs "(classFileName)" [and hope nobody renames anything while you're not looking])
00:30.49Kethoright
00:40.47netametaWhere can i find whisper color ?
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03:04.06netametaThats freaking crazy. 1 saved variable will just not get saved
03:04.31netametawhats even weirder when i open the file i see that the variable is there, but in game its empty
03:07.15Mr_Rabiesnow i only know a little bit about this from osmosis, i haven't written a functional addon, but i believe that global variables can conflict, if you're setting one of those
03:10.06netametaThis is so Weird !
03:30.18netametaDoes table save their indexing ? say i've removed an element from a table, will the table resort itself ?
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05:18.16netametaI think i am done
05:18.25netametaJust 1 last thing and that's it
06:37.10sylvanaaryou should use wholib so you don't conflict with other addons
06:40.45netametaDont know what that is but i am done
06:40.52netametaMaldivia,
06:41.05netametawant to see what i were talking about ?
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12:19.34DejablueHey everyone, first time here. Have a question about anchoring the actionbar (ActionButton1) to a frame that I then move around. I have been able to do this until this alst patch. I can still do so with all other action bars, but not the action buttons 1 -12. What do? Thanks in advance. DejaView addon, the DejaBars.lua file line 208ish "move(ActionButton1,"BOTTOMLEFT",mbars,"BOTTOMLEFT",0,3)
12:19.35Dejablue"  download link to view spaghetti code: https://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23145-DejaView.html
12:22.36DejablueI saw ther ewas new secure anchoring but that was for nameplates and loosk like worldframe.
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13:46.58DejablueHere is a simplified version of what I am trying to do: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/153407117682802688/611918692560928809/Test.lua I can enter the code if you don't want to download a file.
13:47.32DejablueI am not familiar with the etiquette of chat etc.
13:47.56DejablueDrag the mbars frame and it also moves the action bar.
13:48.11DejablueBut it now errors out.
13:50.04MaldiviaDejablue: well, you seem to only be changing the button, not the bar?
13:50.40DejablueI have been moving only the button and beacsuea all the other buttons are attatched to the one button thyey also move.
13:50.53DejablueThe MainActionBar will not move as far as i can tell.
13:52.08MaldiviaDejablue: ah yeah, the other buttons are anchored to eachother
13:52.13Dejablueit still works on stancebutton1, petactionbutton1, multibar left and right button1, they all then also move the other buttons
13:52.34DejablueBut it stopped working for actionbutton1 - 12
13:52.47Maldiviawell, stopped working how, what does it complain about?
13:53.08DejablueI don't get an error
13:53.32Dejabluemy debug code shows that it isn't getting position ondragstop
13:54.36DejablueChange ActionButton1 to MultiBarRightButton12 and you cans ee that it moves jsut fine
13:54.48DejabluePrints the position in chat, etc.
13:55.21MaldiviaDejablue: and your drag start is triggered?
13:55.32MaldiviaDejablue: as in, have you tried adding debug therE?
13:55.40DejablueLet me see
13:55.45DejablueNo I ahvent Ill check
13:57.21DejablueYeah it shows it triggeres OnDragStart
13:58.53DejablueSwatter addon doesn't show any bugs either
13:59.01Dejablueany errors rather
14:00.23DejablueWhen you try to move the mbars frame the text dissappears and all of the non ActionButtons move back to their default position.
14:00.45MaldiviaDejablue: and this is on live? ptr? classic?
14:00.50Dejabluelive
14:01.48Maldiviahmm, dunno
14:19.19DejablueHere is a 20 second video showing the difference between how MultiBarBottomLeftButton1 works fine, but ActionButton1  doesn't work and does weird stuff: https://youtu.be/UIThhu_zyS4
14:19.36DejablueAny help is appreciated.
14:20.02DejablueAnd thanks for your assistance Maldivia :)
14:44.47MaldiviaDejablue: yeah, weird
15:05.18foxlitboring, really
15:08.42foxlittell me an interesting fact I haven't heard before, Dejablue.
15:09.30DejabluePurple (magenta) is not a color, it has no wavelength, our brains synthesize it.
15:10.47Enneagood job, brain
15:11.07foxlitAlready know about that.
15:12.22Enneafoxlit, will you take anything you don't know yet?
15:12.47foxlitunfortunately, I also get to arbitrate what counts as interesting.
15:12.55Enneawell, shit
15:13.05Ennealet me try
15:13.34Enneain the windows xp version of ms paint, there's a 1px line between the 8x zoom level and the border of the box that has all the zoom levels. if you click it, you get a 10x zoom level
15:14.04Maldiviafoxlit: Blizzard will announce a new game and two new expansions at BlizzCon
15:14.33Enneatwo expansions for what?
15:16.10Maldiviagames
15:16.12Ennea...
15:16.17Enneawell, touche
15:16.32foxlitboring, Maldivia.
15:16.59Enneafoxlit, what about the ms paint fact?
15:18.12MaldiviaEnnea: D4, WoWX9, HSXWhatever
15:21.26foxlitEnnea: not without the "why?"
15:21.36Enneahm
15:21.45Enneai haven't poked into the why yet. you're right that would be interesting
15:21.53Enneabecause the other four options are 1x, 2x, 6x and 8x
15:22.14Enneathere's also 4x, but i'm assuming it's hidden, since that's just the default zoom when using the magnifying glass
15:22.32Enneaso perhaps 1x is there because they increment the first one (0)
15:22.52Enneaand the one after 8 is 10 because it's just a list that increases in steps of 2
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15:23.44Enneabut who knows~
15:27.24foxlitlet's call that a practice round.
15:28.39Enneayou have pretty high standards for interesting facts
15:29.10foxlitDejablue: SetMoving internally pcalls* SetPoint. You trip over the anchoring restrictions but aren't told that you do.
15:29.47foxlits/Set/Start/
15:29.54Enneahere's another one: earthbound, an snes game from 94/95, has copy protection. when playing cheap bootlegs of it, the game was lot more difficult than the real one. additionally, just before the final boss fight, it would crash and erase your savegames
15:30.26DejablueSo ClearAllPoints in SetMoving?
15:31.06DejablueI gotta pee brb, there is something you didn't know :)
15:32.21foxlitI don't think that would fix it, as much as people like throwing ClearAllPoints everywhere.
15:32.33DejablueAny idea what will fix it?
15:33.17foxlitEnnea: boring :(
15:33.38foxlit(most software is)
15:36.11Enneanowadays, sure
15:36.14Enneaback then? hm
15:37.05Maldiviafoxlit: why would it matter here though (the SetPoint for StartMoving), it's thr mbars that is moving, but depending what is anchored to it it fails or not
15:39.12DejablueIf I clearallpoints and then setpoint it does let me move the MainMenuBar
15:39.23Dejabluewithin the startmoving
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15:41.15foxlitMaldivia: the swallowed error would say something along the lines of the setpoint call creating an anchor family connection
15:42.35DejablueI assumed as much
15:43.14DejablueAny ideas on how to attatch the default ui action bars to a third frame that is moveable? It works for all other action bars.
15:43.21foxlitsince the anchors on mbars change, it matters what is anchored to mbars (and what is anchored to that, and...)
15:44.12DejablueIn the full code I manually anchor each subsequent button to the previous one.
15:44.30foxlitsomeone should write some code that computes the Kleene closure over anchors for a given frame.
15:46.32foxlitit would be easiest for you to call StartMoving on a frame that nothing is anchored to, and update the position of mbars by calling SetPoint yourself, with offsets relative to UIParent, in an OnUpdate while that drag is happening.
15:49.57DejablueBut But
15:50.02DejablueThat is a lot of busy work ><
15:51.06Enneatbh
15:51.15Enneathat's not a lot, nah
15:51.36DejablueWell I have a lock frame that the mbars are parented to that hides them
15:52.01DejablueAnd that is tied to a check box on the interface options panel lua
15:52.05DejablueAnd the core
15:52.32DejablueSo wont be inline, and my tiny brain will have to think
15:54.04DejablueCTimerafter  bnetter than oupdate for this?
15:54.42Dejablueticker too much?
15:56.02foxlitOnUpdate is appropriate.
15:56.36Dejabluebut everyone cries and tells me I am an idiot if I use onupdate
15:56.39Enneano
15:56.44Enneadon't be afraid to use onupdate
15:56.46Enneait exists for a reason
15:56.54Enneathere are many cases where doing something every frame makes sense
15:57.12Enneajust don't have code running in an OnUpdate handler _at all times_
15:57.15foxlityou only need it while dragging, hide the frame or clear the handler after you're done.
15:57.19Enneain your case it's just when dragging stuff, which is perfectly fine
16:00.04DejablueAight, cool. Time to get busy :)
16:02.57Dejablueokay i was thinking sue local ticker = 0  and then make the onupdate script and then within ondrag make ticker = 0.1; agood idea? Better solutions?
16:03.51netametaMaldivia, You saw what i was talking about with proxy ?
16:04.19Maldiviasaw, didn't look too close
16:05.26netametaDid it at least make snse ?
16:07.44Maldiviasome what what you're doing; no
16:16.27netameta:-(
16:16.33netametaI will just cry silently
16:16.36netametaand thats it !
16:17.26netametasome people here recommended  LibDBIcon-1.0. but i will have to ask the user to download it
16:17.54netametaits weird that out of all of my current installed addons none uses it
16:18.14Maldivia... bundle it?
16:18.20Maldivialike everyone else does
16:19.29netametawait what ?
16:19.44netametaMaldivia, bundle it ?
16:20.09Maldivianetameta: yeah
16:20.20netametaHow do you bundle stuff ?
16:20.59Maldiviachecked 3 random bigger addons I had installed -- all used and bundled LibDBIcon
16:21.32netametai dont have anything agains libDBICOn
16:21.32netametaj
16:21.38netametajust trying to figure this our
16:21.39netametaout
16:21.43netametahow do you bundle
16:22.55Maldiviausually you extract it to a libs folder inside your addon, and then in the .toc reference it
16:24.00netametaAnd that will automatically threat it like other addons ?
16:24.03Maldivianetameta: do you have DBM, bartender, pitbull, mapster, or any other addons installed? then look in their .toc file, see what they do
16:24.13netametaChecking now
16:24.25netametayea about some of those addons
16:26.12Maldivianetameta: it all starts with LibStub basically -- which has been a cornerstone in many addons for 10+ years
16:27.00netametaI think i will extract all the duplicated code into a shared library addon
16:27.05netametabetween the 2 addons
16:27.26netametaso addonName, addonNameShared, addonNameProxy
16:27.55foxlitLibStub is funny because it's basically "helping" people do the equivalent of _G[LibName] = {}.
16:28.06netametato move all utilities and share duplicated code into 1 place, keep thing dry
16:28.55netametaFirst however i want to change icon lib to what he said
16:29.09MaldiviaDRY is good, but so is WET
16:31.28netametahow is wet good ?
16:33.33Maldiviabecause DRY just for the same of DRY is not good
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16:53.17netametaHmm trying to copy what DBM-core does
16:53.34netametakeep getting an error "Message: Interface\AddOns\EasyRecruiting\EasyRecruiting.lua:129: Cannot find a library instance of "LibDataBroker-1.1"."
16:54.00netametaBut i see databroke in my lib folder and in my toc file
16:54.12netametaand its loaded before my XML and my lua file
16:54.47nevcairielfoxlit: except thats not all of it, and sure its only a dozen or so lines of code, but having an easy to use standard for everyone avoids having minor differences for every library that you then need to lookup for each case
16:55.38foxlitnevcairiel: ... such as?
16:56.54nevcairielthe world is full of weird people, if you dont help them along to do it properly, they'll invent their own crazy methods that you  could never imagine
16:58.20foxlitI remain unconvinced.
16:58.37nevcairielfor example  libraries that don't use it will often screw up their upgrade path when embedded versions change in multiple addons, since they don't have a template to copy from
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16:59.44foxlitand LibStub solves this problem by providing an ... if statement.
17:00.17netametaDoes load order not guaranteed in toc  file ?
17:00.34nevcairielLibStub wasn't written in a world  where everythign was already perfect, it was written to fix a concrete problem with the wild west that was libraries
17:00.47nevcairielyou are free to not use and roll your own thing, but who is crazy then :D
17:01.17foxlitI still don't see what problem you think it's solving
17:01.44nevcairielthats fine, maybe you just think more of random developers then what they are actually ca pable of
17:01.54nevcairielor you just werent here 10-12 years ago
17:02.27nevcairielbut it has definitely helped to make libraries easier to use
17:05.10foxlitIt is so much easier to write local lib = LibStub("LibName") than local lib = _G["LibName"].
17:05.44netametaMaldivia, I think i got it !!
17:06.55foxlitalso, I don't think random developers who are incapable of writing the two lines of migration boilerplate proided by LibStub from scratch are capable of writing any libraries worth using.
17:07.50DejablueIm baaack how the hell do I do an onupdate inside of an ondragstart?
17:08.00Maldiviayou don't
17:08.26Dejablueframe:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(self, elapsed)
17:08.26Dejablue<PROTECTED>
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17:12.35netametaMaldivia, Thanks dude
17:13.00netametanow it doesnt require an addon dependency
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17:16.06foxlitso here's the anchor chain that causes Dejablue's problem: $screen <- UIParent <- MainMenuBar <- MainMenuBarArtFrame <- MultiBarBottomLeft -> ActionButton1 -> mbars -> $screen
17:17.07DejablueI can attatch all of those to mbars and move them except for ActionButton1
17:17.51foxlitthat's kind of the point, yes.
17:18.44foxlityou get an error because MultiBarBottomLeft is attached to both ActionButton1 and (eventually, through a separate chain) UIParent
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17:19.17DejablueHow can MultiBarBottomLeft be parented to both art frame and actionbutton1 tho
17:19.50DejablueI saw the error once when I first logged in and have not seen it since.
17:20.01DejablueLike 2 days ago
17:20.14foxlitthe parent hierarchy is irrelevant; this concerns anchors alone.
17:20.46DejablueSo this is part of the new secure anchoring system?
17:21.08DejablueI thought tha was for nameplates
17:21.52foxlitthe behavior is odd, but yes, it's due to the anchor domain restrictions that they intended to use for nameplates.
17:22.36netametaso you dont like DRY, just so can keep code smaller and cleaner ?
17:23.26foxlitStartMoving tries to attach the object it's called on to $screen. For [some unknown reason], no objects are allowed to attach to both UIParent and $screen. Calling StartMoving on ActionButton1 (or mbars, in your case) would cause MultiBarBottomLeft to become such an object.
17:24.14DejablueI wasn't able to get onupdate to work yet. It doesn't seem to be able to get the position with the mouse pressed down, but I probably did soemthing wrong
17:24.37foxlitStartMoving fails internally, which ActionButton1 stranded, and a number of things anchored to it without a valid anchor chain, and hence without a valid rectangle, so all the fontstrings disappear
17:24.50foxlits/which/which leaves/
17:24.58DejablueAnd the buttons fall into odd places gotcha
17:29.32foxlit/run ActionButton1:SetMovable(true) ActionButton1:StartMoving(); -- reproduces the effect without further addon code.
17:31.48foxlitI still haven't found who is reponsible for positioning MultiBarBottomLeft relative to ActionButton1, though.
17:32.38DejablueSomeone with super power
17:32.40foxlitUIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS.
17:33.45foxlityou know, I think you could just kill its TOP anchor, set a height, and get away with it.
17:35.22Dejabluewhat's it's TOP anchor?
17:35.41foxlithttps://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/MultiActionBars.xml#337
17:35.47Dejablueactionbutton1 or multibar bla bla
17:36.53Enneamultibla!
17:37.15Chipzzmultiblar
17:42.35DejablueHow do you "kill" the TOP? I tried moving it nogo
17:46.09foxlitClearAllPoints and then restore the non-TOP ones using SetPoint
17:48.16DejablueYeah i tried that doesn't work that I can see
17:52.23Dejablue<PROTECTED>
17:52.23DejablueMultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",0,0)
17:52.26DejablueRight?
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17:57.58foxlitno, but for reasons that are not immediately relevant.
17:58.44foxlityou'd also have to do the same to MultiBarBottomRight (which is anchored to ActionButton12 and MainMenuBarArtFrame)
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18:54.42DejablueYAY!!!
18:57.18DejablueSo OnDragStart I MainMenuBar:ClearAllPoints() and set the points for ActionButton1 so it is set on mbars. Then I have to separately set points on ActionButton1 to use the saved db get points onOnDragStop :)
18:58.01DejablueRube Goldberg couldn't do it any better
18:58.38DejablueThanks for all the help foxlit
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20:40.50nezroydoes anyone know of an example where someone is secure calling ToggleCharacter (or doing the equivalent) from a secure button since 8.2?
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20:43.32netametathere are some strange things happening
20:44.01netametaother then saved variable, where else things about addons are shown ?
20:44.57netametaI gave the addon to a friend of mine and he couldnt see the icon, so i am trying to replicate this, but i cannot for me it always shows, i assume its something to do with saved info about the addon on my PC
21:15.36Ssatenethwelp, first I would disable or remove addons that are not part of the scope (no need to mess with savedvariables at that point)
21:16.38Ssatenethsame issue? transplant the savedvariables to see if results changes. if it does, go from there. if not... Dunno. Completely reset WoW's settings by removing the WTF folder (save elsewhere if needed)
21:26.14foxlitToggleCharacter << heh, the "fuck you!" microbutton.
21:29.16nezroyfeels like it
21:31.25netametaSsateneth, i think i am at the point of completely reset wow settings
21:31.51foxlittell me something interesting that I do not already know, nezroy.
21:32.46Ssatenethwelp, sounds like you gotta remove the WTF folder then (it contains addon settings, blizz UI settings, as well as wow base settings like graphcis and audio settings)
21:38.29nezroytbh I'm at a loss on how to replicate any of the micro button stuff with custom secure buttons since 8.2, since so many of the default UI panels have all kinds of tab setting indexes, etc. that you cannot replicate in a secure code path (nevermind the craziness of having to replicate the entirety of ToggleCharacter and everything it calls in the first place), so yeh I'd love to see some examples of how other addons are
21:38.29nezroydoing this...
21:41.45nevcairielbasically just lug around the default micromenu buttons, since re-creating their functionality is a nightmare :D
21:50.47foxlit(that wasn't rhetorical, btw. The bridge toll must be paid.)
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22:07.50Dejabluemy middle name is... are you sitting down?... WAYNE!! Grosssssss
22:09.45znfok, bruce
22:52.34netametaIf i do Button:CreateFontString - how can i set the string to be over (layer index wise) over the button ?
22:53.38netametaI tried SetTopLevel
22:56.46Dejabluebutton.text = button:CreateFontString("$parent_FontString","OVERLAY")
22:56.50DejablueIs what I used
22:57.00DejablueRest is typical font settings
22:59.39netametaAh overlay
23:00.55DejablueYeah if you button getchildren you can find all kinds of crap in there
23:01.39netametaif you do button:CreateTexture can you later fetch the object with button:GetTexture ?
23:02.05Dejablueif you name it
23:02.11MooreaTvyou don't need any special strata / layer if you use standard templates
23:03.06MooreaTve.g. https://github.com/mooreatv/MoLib/blob/master/MoLibUI.lua#L532-L536
23:04.16DejablueIsntead of Frame = ParentFrame:CreateTexture(nil,"ARTWORK") you do Frame = ParentFrame:CreateTexture("MyTextureName","ARTWORK"), I beleive
23:04.45netametaAh so i am screwed basically
23:05.03netametalibDBIcon doesnt set a name
23:05.07DejablueWhat are you trying to do?
23:05.41netametai want to make the texture sort of flash on certain event
23:07.25DejablueIsn't name a variable in the callback?
23:07.34DejablueIconCallback(event, name, key, value)
23:08.51DejablueI am seeing Skada and DBM using them with a quick google search
23:09.57DejablueI'm a dilettante tho so defer to anyone else lol
23:12.30netametanot sure what you mean
23:12.38netametaDejablue, I have access to the button
23:12.50netametabut the texure is name nil
23:15.28DejablueTry making it a variable
23:16.28netametaMaking what a variable ?
23:16.32DejablueSo: mytexture = myframe:CreateTexture)nil, "ARTWORK") bla bla then Myvariable = mytexture
23:17.34DejablueWhat are you trying to do with the name once you ahve it?
23:18.11netametai guess change the RGB SetVertexColor to make it glow
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23:20.06netametaI think i will just add a push mode
23:20.16netametaand set a specific texture for that
23:20.35netametai would hadd a highlighttexture but there's not way to set button state to highlighted
23:21.18DejablueSorry I couldn't help more ;/
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23:23.32netametawhere can i find all the button states ? for SetButtonState
23:24.12Dejabluehttps://wow.gamepedia.com/Widget_API
23:24.33DejablueButton:SetButtonState("state"[, lock]) - Set the state of the Button ("PUSHED", "NORMAL") and whether it is locked.
23:25.15netametathats not the list of all the states as it doesnt list DISABLED which i know exists
23:26.16DejablueZork usually ahs the answer
23:26.16Dejabluehttps://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40444
23:26.29DejablueProbably in there
23:31.10netametaWell, seems its only those 3, PUSHED, NORMAL, DISABLED
23:31.42DejablueCool
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