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| 14:07.06 | Gnarfoz | hm, so I unchecked "tutorials" and they all still show up, what gives |
| 14:07.38 | Gnarfoz | or is that not the "hey this UI thing does this and that" popups |
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| 15:40.21 | znf | Gnarfoz, aren't those the loading tips? |
| 15:40.48 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 15:41.03 | Gnarfoz | loading screen tips are not tutorials, some of them are straight up jokes :D |
| 15:41.09 | znf | oh well |
| 15:41.09 | nevcairiel | i think tutorials are the even more basic things that popup and tell you how the game works |
| 15:41.26 | znf | the wow config has been behaving rather strangely for me in the last few days |
| 15:41.31 | znf | but only related to the in-game voice-chat |
| 15:41.38 | znf | in 8.2 they added a "ducking" option |
| 15:41.56 | znf | even tough I set it to 0% all the time, it randomly resets back to 100% after a reload ui, or a game restart |
| 16:00.13 | znf | Is this a WoW feature or some addon? when mailing multiple items to my alt, I just discovered that I can shift+click one item and it will auto-fill the mailbox slots (ie: shift+click on barnacled lockbox, or random greens) |
| 16:02.49 | Gethe_ | pretty sure that's a WoW feature |
| 16:03.19 | znf | well, cheers to doing that manually every since 2010 at least >_< |
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| 16:03.42 | znf | I only had to click them 90 times yesterday when I sent lockboxes to a rogue friend :D |
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| 16:51.01 | znf | uhm https://i.imgur.com/C7v6IXq.jpg |
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| 16:52.57 | nevcairiel | noone wants you |
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| 17:34.20 | znf | Oh, they fixed Carnivorous Lasher, multiple Radiant/Germinating/Golden seaflies are not affecting it like it used to :-| |
| 17:34.25 | znf | now it only gets the effect once |
| 17:35.46 | znf | (as in, even if 2 people are doing the flies on it, the loot is affected only by one effect) |
| 17:40.56 | Stanzilla | TSquare: hey there, got some info on when wecan expect some UI fixes? Only 8.2.5 or will you be able to ship some in hotfix patches? |
| 17:56.07 | VIad | it appears the azshara fight uses the C_UIWidgetManager system to draw the widget thingy |
| 17:56.29 | nevcairiel | thats what its for, to allow bosses etc to draw custom UI |
| 17:59.49 | VIad | just curious how easy it would be to extract the data from it into a custom WA and move it around :p |
| 17:59.57 | VIad | sounds like reanchoring that frame is bad ideda |
| 18:01.03 | AcidWeb | trivial |
| 18:01.12 | AcidWeb | also you already have wa for that |
| 18:01.42 | AcidWeb | moving widget itself is painfull but you can move entire anchor |
| 18:02.22 | AcidWeb | UIWidgetBelowMinimapContainer |
| 18:02.38 | znf | I tought bartender would allow me to move that |
| 18:02.55 | nevcairiel | bartender allows actionbars, not generic UI elements :p |
| 18:04.20 | znf | any way we can put text on it, btw? |
| 18:04.42 | znf | I'm assuming it has some numeric value/percentage behind the scenes |
| 18:05.03 | TSquare | Stanzilla - On the UI, we are only fixing heavy impact bugs for live (I don't think we have any more in the queue). Any other fixes would be in later patches. |
| 18:06.52 | znf | TSquare, is there any possible way we can have CVar for the default friendly nameplates to at least remove realm name from them? |
| 18:07.21 | znf | (I would also love class coloring for their name) |
| 18:09.30 | TSquare | znf - I want to hold off on adding more customizing cvars for that for now. If the new security system holds up, I will be able to remove the constraint on addons modifying them. If it doesn't hold up, then I will be looking to adding customization to the enemy nameplates because I will have to lock them down too :) |
| 18:10.12 | znf | also, I just realized that there is an actual cvar for friendly nameplates that allows coloring, but it didn't seem to be working |
| 18:10.24 | znf | not in the raid at least |
| 18:10.50 | znf | but, regardless, I hope it holds up, I want my nameplates back :( |
| 18:11.08 | TSquare | me too |
| 18:12.22 | AcidWeb | If enemy plates will be locked too in instances we can just uninstall this game. |
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| 18:13.06 | AcidWeb | znf: All numeric data is available over widget api. |
| 18:13.47 | AcidWeb | About text overlays... well just parent it to UIWidgetBelowMinimapContainer and move where you want. |
| 18:14.36 | znf | gonna check wago, maybe someone came up with something |
| 18:14.59 | AcidWeb | I'm quite sure you can find multiple ones. |
| 18:15.34 | znf | I looked a few days ago when I first step in there and there were only decree helpers for "azshara" |
| 18:15.39 | znf | I see now there's some overlays |
| 18:16.18 | AcidWeb | https://wago.io/AzsharaWidget |
| 18:16.30 | znf | nice |
| 18:16.33 | znf | love you |
| 18:18.39 | znf | very nice, actually |
| 18:19.01 | znf | "08 AUTISM!" |
| 18:19.09 | znf | well, nice name for an aura... |
| 18:19.32 | Stanzilla | TSquare: okay, any news about the EditBox bug then? Are you familiar with our community bug tracker we made? There are a few things piling up |
| 18:19.59 | TSquare | yea, we have the edit box bug in our tracking. thanks |
| 18:21.21 | Stanzilla | great |
| 18:23.04 | AcidWeb | TSquare: Both C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration and GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime have issues. Sometimes something going wrong and both return 0 for the duration of entire battleground/arena. |
| 18:24.39 | Crosshash | GetActiveMatchDuration is only for the final scoreboard. It will be non-zero when the match ends. |
| 18:25.17 | AcidWeb | Well and what is definition of match end? |
| 18:25.51 | Crosshash | You got your rewards. |
| 18:26.28 | AcidWeb | I seen 0 there until automatic kick from instance. |
| 18:26.57 | znf | Did you see the thing I posted a few days ago - if you open up any container (boxes, bags etc.) while in a battleground, the contents are added to the score screen |
| 18:27.38 | Crosshash | Yeah, that's unfortunate about the containers |
| 18:28.35 | znf | I could also complain about the fact that you complete the alterac valley quests inside the bg, you get credit for the Battlefield Tactician achievement, but if you complete it outside, you don't :D |
| 18:28.52 | znf | But that's not UI related :P |
| 18:29.00 | AcidWeb | I definitely seen cases where GetBattlefieldWinner() ~= nil or C_PvP.GetActiveMatchState() == Enum.PvpMatchState.Complete and duration api still returned 0. |
| 18:30.09 | AcidWeb | Considering that both C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration and GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime are curently unused I expected they are just defunct. |
| 18:32.22 | znf | raiding question, because I'm not sure if my UI broke yesterday or that's how it's supposed to be - yesterday during P4 @ Azshara, I got the "Essence of Azeroth" effect from the Titan Console. Thing is, I have no idea how it worked, or if my UI just broke then because of that ability. I had no more cast bars for casting abilities, but I still had them for channeled ones and then I got an error |
| 18:32.40 | znf | So, is it supposed to give you that much haste that you have no more cast bars, or did my UI break completely? |
| 18:35.17 | Stanzilla | you get increased resource generation and some other benefits |
| 18:35.18 | Stanzilla | so I guess yes |
| 18:36.10 | Stanzilla | Crosshash: we also have a list of functions that currently crash the game, https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues/10 |
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| 18:37.26 | znf | ah, yes, this was the thing I had yesterday when I got the buff: https://ybin.me/p/5d1de5dd412f1d16#a0PhWur8DaxrY34XIM/Ha6JGbR85VxoWiL+pXylUz3I= |
| 18:37.38 | znf | but it doesn't really tell me anything |
| 18:40.14 | Crosshash | @AcidWeb do you get the duration as an arg of PVP_MATCH_COMPLETE? |
| 18:40.25 | Crosshash | @Stanzilla ok, thanks |
| 18:40.36 | AcidWeb | Not tested that. Lets see. |
| 18:42.37 | AcidWeb | But it might take some time as instances with GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime = 0 are quite random. |
| 18:43.06 | Crosshash | Oh, so only 0 sometimes? |
| 18:43.32 | AcidWeb | yeah |
| 18:44.36 | AcidWeb | When GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() > 0 on start of bg then everything return proper values. |
| 18:45.23 | AcidWeb | But sometimes it is 0 and it says that way. |
| 18:48.12 | AcidWeb | And then C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration also return 0 always |
| 18:57.41 | znf | in EP, can you skip the fish boss and go for radiance? |
| 18:58.00 | Crosshash | How accurate does this match time need to be? |
| 18:59.20 | AcidWeb | Seconds. |
| 18:59.31 | AcidWeb | Just finished one where GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() > 0 |
| 18:59.58 | Crosshash | I mean, does it matter if it's 1 second off or so? |
| 19:01.13 | AcidWeb | PVP_MATCH_COMPLETE payload was 0. C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration() returned 951. GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() returned 1083101. |
| 19:01.55 | AcidWeb | In this case apparently both C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration() and GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() were correct. |
| 19:02.21 | znf | would you look at that, it's the scheduled lag event @ 21:00 in nazjatar |
| 19:02.46 | AcidWeb | For my needs +/- 1 sec is enough. |
| 19:03.36 | AcidWeb | I will queue few more times and hopefully find instance with GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime = 0 |
| 19:05.01 | AcidWeb | Generally I don't require any nuclear precision - just any valid data ð |
| 19:05.26 | Crosshash | Alright, we may make C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration() return the client estimation. |
| 19:09.23 | AcidWeb | So when PVP_MATCH_COMPLETE triggers C_PvP.GetActiveMatchDuration() should return proper data? |
| 19:10.46 | Crosshash | That's how it should be working now. In theory. |
| 19:11.19 | AcidWeb | OK. Apparently as long GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() > 0 it work that way. Still looking for broken instance. |
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| 20:10.11 | znf | Are these Arcane Reagents used for anything else than the weekly summon quest in Mardivas' Laboratory? |
| 20:10.21 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:10.24 | znf | because I'm getting way too many of them |
| 20:10.36 | znf | heck, I just got a damn mission for a bag that contained... one of these |
| 20:10.38 | znf | it's ridiculous |
| 20:10.50 | nevcairiel | there is like 20 summons or so if you want to complete them all, and eventually you'll probably stop farming, so save em :D |
| 20:10.53 | AcidWeb | How many arenas are currently in rotation? 11? |
| 20:11.21 | znf | I have over 2 stacks of each for now |
| 20:11.24 | znf | that's precious bag space :-/ |
| 20:12.06 | znf | (I sent full stacks to an alt, but still) |
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| 20:41.43 | znf | So why isn't this actually working? https://i.imgur.com/quh4hMW.png |
| 20:41.50 | znf | ShowClassColorInFriendlyNameplate |
| 20:42.30 | AcidWeb | because it color health bar |
| 20:42.32 | AcidWeb | not name |
| 20:43.23 | znf | uhm, what |
| 20:44.01 | znf | is the cvar wrong? |
| 20:44.26 | AcidWeb | It show class color in friendly nameplates. |
| 20:44.36 | AcidWeb | Just not in name part. |
| 20:45.05 | AcidWeb | Let me rephrase. You can't do anything with locked friendly nameplates. They will look and work like garbage no matter what you do. |
| 20:45.18 | AcidWeb | That cvar add class color only to health bar. |
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| 20:46.52 | znf | oh... |
| 20:47.09 | znf | ...that's stupid |
| 20:47.17 | AcidWeb | Yes. |
| 20:48.29 | AcidWeb | As I don't know anybody who use bars on friendly units - too much clutter. |
| 20:50.55 | Ketho | should have blackmailed semlar to release his tooltipplates https://gfycat.com/glumunawareindianelephant |
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| 20:52.03 | nevcairiel | not like those would still work, they also finally bothered to close the last glaring friendly plate hole that was in there since 7.3.5 =p |
| 20:53.49 | AcidWeb | Well friendly nameplates in instances have only one function - Display player name in clear, readable way. |
| 20:54.09 | AcidWeb | And currently they can't do it. |
| 20:55.03 | AcidWeb | We can only pray that new security measure will hold. |
| 20:55.14 | Timosh | no ð¦ |
| 20:55.32 | AcidWeb | Otherwise this will be shitstorm of majestic proportions. |
| 20:55.50 | Timosh | i am wondering |
| 20:55.58 | AcidWeb | As customisation of enemy nameplates is currently biggest qol in wow ui. |
| 20:56.13 | Timosh | do they detect workaround with friendly nameplates |
| 20:56.35 | AcidWeb | there are no "workarounds" just hacks. |
| 20:56.40 | Timosh | or they dont care until someone report it |
| 20:57.02 | Timosh | depends on what hacks mean |
| 20:57.07 | Timosh | using pure lua |
| 20:57.15 | AcidWeb | If enemy nameplates will be locked too then this game is no longer playable. |
| 20:57.19 | AcidWeb | Plain and simple. |
| 20:57.25 | Timosh | or using framescript bug |
| 20:57.57 | Timosh | we have ff14 |
| 20:58.15 | AcidWeb | meh |
| 21:16.28 | Ketho | what are those AIBrain and AIController cvars for? they going to allow agents? |
| 21:18.13 | Ketho | wonder how many wipes it would take for deepmind until they beat mythic azshara :p |
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