| 00:07.24 | MooreaTv | well either you want to fight or flight, pick one and the guards lets you decide |
| 00:08.08 | MooreaTv | you can't both complain the guards stun and hit for nothing and complain that the guards pwn you |
| 00:08.48 | MooreaTv | though this being wow I suppose you are entitled to complain about A and not A at the same time, it's not unsual |
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| 01:05.53 | znf | The cooldown of this thing is infuriating: https://i.imgur.com/IJHv02J.png |
| 01:10.16 | MooreaTv | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.53 | znf | yes, I'm #1 whiner |
| 01:11.07 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 01:11.15 | znf | After 15 years, there's not always many things to discuss about addons :P |
| 01:11.40 | Cairenn | (and your whining gets bloody annoying) |
| 01:12.06 | znf | I'm aware |
| 01:12.18 | Cairenn | So then why the hell don't you stop it? |
| 01:12.42 | znf | I'm trying |
| 01:15.09 | Cairenn | Then points for effort :) |
| 01:15.51 | MooreaTv | peace & love :) maybe try https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/ ? |
| 01:16.05 | znf | nope |
| 01:17.15 | znf | I hate the mob mentality there, too many casuals |
| 01:19.50 | MooreaTv | I'm sure there is some Elite wow players discord channel somewhere :) {excpected reply: I don't use discord. how about M-x eliza then?} |
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| 01:21.41 | MooreaTv | that reminds me the first irc bot I wrote over 20 years ago was eliza, I should try to find the source somewhere |
| 01:24.19 | MooreaTv | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327420858521878529/596873973548187660/unknown.png :-) |
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| 01:24.33 | znf | I've been an IRC user for ~20 years |
| 01:24.36 | znf | why the hell would I go to discord? |
| 01:24.38 | znf | but I do use it |
| 01:26.08 | MooreaTv | why the hell would I go to discord? |
| 01:26.38 | MooreaTv | hmm can't paste back, nvm then, better things to do :) |
| 01:29.00 | znf | I just don't care about Discord communities |
| 01:29.08 | znf | I don't need fancy IRC on steroids |
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| 01:49.15 | MooreaTv | oh I did get the thank you for ptr bug reports email somehow it only showed up after I searched for it |
| 01:59.09 | Corrodias | yay |
| 02:13.03 | znf | I wish they'd made the Nazjatar quests a once-a-day reset, instead of having WQs at different times of day |
| 02:26.18 | Ketho | I finally started leveling in BfA, enjoying it so far |
| 02:28.09 | Ketho | really liking the music in boralus |
| 02:33.18 | MooreaTv | stormsong valley is beautiful too, enjoy there |
| 02:35.45 | MooreaTv | znf- https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/327420858521878529/596891858072895489/unknown.png |
| 02:38.15 | MooreaTv | feel free to /w Mooreatv-Lightning'sBlade to continue that conversation :) |
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| 03:13.32 | Mr_Rabies | <znf> I wish they'd made the Nazjatar quests a once-a-day reset, instead of having WQs at different times of day |
| 03:14.22 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like most of them start at 11AM EST but one starts at 11PM and they're all up for 24h |
| 03:14.31 | Mr_Rabies | on the us servers at least |
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| 03:19.20 | Constie | I wish I had done Alliance leveling first. Kul Tiras is just so much less cool than giant pyramid dinosaur death swamp land. |
| 03:30.43 | nebula | boralus doesn't require a fp to get from your bank to the boat |
| 03:31.19 | nebula | stupid pyramid. |
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| 11:06.16 | VIad | there is a special spell "Heart Essence" that counts as the selected major essence. it's confusing as macros will always use the actual spells, so if you want one for "the essence" macro you need to use "Heart Essence" as name |
| 11:08.09 | nevcairiel | l2fly nebula |
| 11:08.23 | VIad | Stanzilla: on that note weakaura will auto-resolve "Heart Essence" into the active spell, might be a neat thing to keep that particular one a bit flexi due to the dynamic nature :x |
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| 11:12.50 | VIad | this the spellID for Heart Essence is 296208 |
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| 11:13.17 | VIad | luckily using the ID directly works with weakaura and keeps it dynamic :d |
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| 13:14.48 | Simca | znf: that combat bug is caused by the robots and murlocs that fight in the Western Spray area of Mechagon |
| 13:15.14 | Simca | if you go back to that area and kill groups of them who are fighting, you can often find the one that flagged you and leave combat |
| 13:15.59 | Simca | the only other option is to leave the zone. talk to the goblin at the docks to leave. you can talk to him again to come right back if you wish. |
| 13:21.57 | AcidWeb | There are few murlocks there that don't drop aggro - ever. |
| 13:22.22 | AcidWeb | They will chase you to the end of the world. |
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| 13:51.58 | nevcairiel | so kill them, they're just murlocs :D |
| 13:53.29 | znf | Simca, but I wasn't near that area at all yesterday |
| 13:53.41 | znf | I mean, but when/before I got the combat bug |
| 13:54.10 | znf | s/but/not/ |
| 13:59.30 | Simca | the combat bug can also be transferred from other players who have it if they buff or heal you |
| 13:59.50 | Simca | my bonded souls azerite trait procced once and transferred somebody else's combat bug to me |
| 14:00.49 | znf | interesting |
| 14:01.03 | znf | I was suspecting mine was because I got attacked by a guy (I had a bounty on me) and I flew off |
| 14:03.23 | Simca | damaging an enemy player who had it active would also probably transfer it |
| 14:04.55 | znf | I didn't, he did |
| 14:05.01 | znf | I was with my anti-gravity pack :P |
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| 14:08.56 | znf | but yeah, that sounds like a crappy bug |
| 14:09.06 | znf | Probably Fixed Never |
| 14:10.33 | Simca | they fix it as it pops up on a case by case basis, adding max ranges to stuff or scripts to reset combat probably. kind of surprised it isn't fixed yet but i guess it hasn't been big enough to be noticed |
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| 16:59.11 | MooreaTv | so I got 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'DynamicBoxer' tried to call the protected function 'CompactRaidFrame1:Show()'. in bugsack but nothing in taint.log (I have the cvar to 1) |
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| 18:09.12 | znf | Anyone happens to know what the aquatic-goblins voice-overs are called in 8.2? cc Alram |
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| 18:11.32 | znf | nvm, found it - sound/poen_gillbrack/vo_82_poen_gillbrack - I was searching for "peon", my bad |
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| 18:24.19 | znf | TSquare, is there a reason why the timer for "The number of messages that can be sent to this channel is limited" resets EVERY TIME you type a new message trying to chat in /1 or /3, and hitting the timer? Is this stricly a server-side thing? |
| 18:24.43 | znf | It's frustrating sometimes to use /1 to coordinate when you hit that limit constantly |
| 18:26.00 | znf | On a related note - does anyone know what the time limit actually is, so I can (hopefully?) create a weakaura for it |
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| 18:48.16 | MooreaTv | maybe don't spam as much :) |
| 18:55.40 | nebula | i think it's based on activity/num clients, i've only ever noticed getting throttled when chat is busy |
| 19:08.54 | znf | MooreaTv, hard not to "spam" when I say X rare @ y,z; then someone asks HP |
| 19:09.29 | MooreaTv | you mean you send exactly 2 messages and the 2nd one get throttled? |
| 19:09.47 | nevcairiel | I would just not respond to idiots asking for HP |
| 19:13.03 | znf | sometimes more than 1 rare spawn/is up at the same time, and some people are just saying "Rare up" in /1, so I also have to ask for name & stuff |
| 19:14.40 | znf | but you get throttled on 3rd in X seconds (not sure how many) |
| 19:25.19 | MooreaTv | click on the person's name to send a private msg, no throttling there |
| 19:26.01 | MooreaTv | (well or rather, much less throttling, you can send 10 msgs before getting throttled) |
| 19:28.00 | jaxdahl2 | is local defense throttled |
| 19:38.24 | znf | jaxdahl2, think so |
| 19:38.31 | znf | yeah, it is |
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| 19:52.47 | znf | my Poen Gillbrack started fighting some alliance |
| 19:52.51 | znf | And I've no idea where he is |
| 19:53.07 | znf | I see it in the combat log, casting spells, but no idea where he actually is :D |
| 20:03.52 | VIad | Semlar: I guess the unfog addons for the worldmap isnt working since the map revamp in legion right? |
| 20:04.30 | Semlar | i don't see why not |
| 20:05.36 | Semlar | isn't it built into some map addons |
| 20:07.53 | nevcairiel | mine still works at least, even added 8.2 map data |
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| 20:47.05 | znf | Has anyone finished the rares achievement in Nazjatar? I can't seem to find Needlespine, and wowhead is not helpful, wonder if I also need to do something special for it |
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| 20:51.06 | TomCat | Good afternoon! |
| 20:55.59 | znf | TomCat, keep your addons up2date man! |
| 20:56.35 | znf | (also, fix the icon scale in handynotes) |
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| 21:02.10 | TomCat | lol - hi znf! |
| 21:04.35 | TomCat | what's wrong with the handynotes icon scale? |
| 21:06.30 | TomCat | which slider is not doing what? world map icon scale, minimap icon scale, or just 'icon scale' ? |
| 21:08.48 | znf | I didn't test the minimap, but the world one is (was) not working a few days ago |
| 21:09.00 | znf | and when you "enabled" the plugin, all the icons disappeared for some reason |
| 21:09.15 | znf | tl;dr - I didn't get it, I uninstalled |
| 21:12.19 | TomCat | Does not require any other addons to be installed / HandyNotes integration if you have it. Noted I need to work on making the handynotes aspect more intuitive |
| 21:13.09 | TomCat | if the icons disappeared when setting for handynotes - I'm going to guess that maybe they didn't disappear but they appeared really small due to where your sliders wer at |
| 21:13.35 | TomCat | thanks for letting me know |
| 21:14.29 | TomCat | I've spent a lot of time reaching out for feedback - nobody's mentioned this scenario before |
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| 21:14.39 | Elmoe | znf: Did you go into the Handynotes settings and explicitly enable the TomTac specific plugins? |
| 21:14.55 | Elmoe | znf: if not you probably aren't even using handynotes you are just getting the icons tomcat adds as if you weren't using handynotes at all |
| 21:15.03 | Elmoe | hence those icons do not respect the handynotes scale |
| 21:15.41 | TomCat | yeah - this really need a 'welcome to TomCat's Tours' splash with a few tips like this |
| 21:15.58 | znf | Elmoe, I tought so - which is why I mentioned that when enabling the plugin actually makes the icons disappear |
| 21:15.58 | Elmoe | why aren't the handynotes plugins enabled by default though is the question |
| 21:16.02 | znf | my scale was set to 1.0 |
| 21:16.09 | znf | and alpha |
| 21:16.31 | Elmoe | enabling the plugins works for me, then the icons for tomcat just use the same scale all the rest of my handynotes icons, sorry didn't realize you had tried that |
| 21:17.14 | TomCat | Elmoe - just consistency with how all of the prior addons from TomCat's Tours have worked - some folks want to use it as a plugin, some prefer things like to be able to use the zone/battlefield map |
| 21:17.50 | Elmoe | TomCat: if the player installs an add-on called 'HandyNotes ...' I would expect the HandyNotes plugin to be enabled by default |
| 21:17.59 | znf | ^ what he said |
| 21:18.02 | Elmoe | most all other handynotes plugins seem to behave this way |
| 21:18.22 | TomCat | noted |
| 21:18.34 | Elmoe | thanks for making the plugins btw :) |
| 21:18.41 | TomCat | yw |
| 21:19.40 | znf | TomCat, not sure if you implemented it - but it would be nice to have a notification when the drill spawn in mechagon |
| 21:19.55 | znf | also, info on how to summon the ancient coral-tree-thingies |
| 21:20.20 | znf | same with Tidemistress Leth'sindra |
| 21:20.25 | znf | also, Sandcastle |
| 21:20.57 | TomCat | I'm working now on core UI components I need to start putting all of that variety into it - this will all be coming soon |
| 21:21.14 | znf | You're missing the deadline :P |
| 21:21.39 | znf | As more people get flying, they'll stop caring :P |
| 21:21.40 | TomCat | if I'm missing the deadline everyone else did too =) |
| 21:22.02 | TomCat | people are getting flying already - I'd say I helped that |
| 21:22.45 | TomCat | you're having too much fun with this - lol |
| 21:23.10 | TomCat | (I am too TBH) |
| 21:25.08 | znf | People got flying like 5 days ago :D |
| 21:25.13 | znf | (not me, but other people) |
| 21:25.18 | TomCat | yeah not me either! |
| 21:25.21 | TomCat | still neutral rep! |
| 21:25.28 | TomCat | (wonder why!) |
| 21:25.29 | znf | well, I got it 2 days ago :P |
| 21:25.37 | znf | or 3? hmmm |
| 21:25.51 | znf | 2! |
| 21:26.27 | TomCat | I had Pathfinder I very early... I did not plan for this |
| 21:27.34 | znf | cue yackety sax https://transfer.sh/1j2wV/2019-07-07_00-22-55.mp4 |
| 21:31.01 | znf | Alram, do you have a better version of this? https://wow.tools/img/cog.png |
| 21:31.06 | Alram | no |
| 21:31.06 | znf | (maybe even svg?) |
| 21:31.11 | Alram | that is manually cut out :( |
| 21:31.15 | Alram | im not happy with it as is |
| 21:31.31 | znf | I wanted to make you a fully svg logo :) |
| 21:31.41 | Alram | that'd be neato |
| 21:31.44 | znf | (animation included) |
| 21:32.28 | TomCat | Alram - ty for continuing to maintain your online database - it's so helpful! |
| 21:33.14 | Alram | it mostly runs itself as long as blizzard doesn't mess with too many things |
| 21:33.15 | Alram | :D |
| 21:36.34 | Mr_Rabies | TomCat: everyone in my general chat just calls the addon "TomCat" lol |
| 21:36.39 | Mr_Rabies | it makes me laugh |
| 21:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | "I use tomcat for the rares" |
| 21:36.58 | TomCat | the branding is working |
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| 21:37.57 | znf | TomCat, yes/no |
| 21:38.04 | znf | people started confusing it with TomTom |
| 21:38.13 | Mr_Rabies | yes that too lol |
| 21:39.15 | TomCat | so probably I should not make a logo of a cat playing drums |
| 21:40.50 | Alram | TomCat: what addons do you maintain? |
| 21:41.07 | TomCat | Alram - all of the TomCat's Tours addons, plus Coordinates |
| 21:41.26 | Alram | will have to check that out then |
| 21:41.44 | TomCat | hurry while supplies last! |
| 21:41.52 | znf | like handynotes, Alram :P |
| 21:42.16 | TomCat | some of them - some are nothing like it |
| 21:43.10 | znf | I still don't like how you depend on the main addon for your plugins :) |
| 21:43.20 | znf | ie: I wanted just the plugin for rares, to use it in handynotes |
| 21:43.57 | TomCat | it's an optional dependency if you really have some reason to remove it |
| 21:44.16 | Alram | fyi the link to tomcat's tours core addon doesn't work on nazjatar/mechagon pages |
| 21:44.29 | znf | twitch installs it, so :P |
| 21:45.05 | TomCat | Alram - which link? |
| 21:45.14 | Alram | https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/tomcats-tours this boi |
| 21:45.31 | Alram | https://marlamin.com/u/chrome_2019-07-06_23-45-26-2m0h132j.png |
| 21:45.39 | TomCat | oh nvm I see where I have it - thanks |
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| 21:50.29 | TomCat | looks like curseforge took out the redirects form the wow.curseforge.com site |
| 21:50.36 | TomCat | *from |
| 21:50.37 | Alram | a twitch classic' |
| 21:54.14 | znf | TomCat, oh, also, I remember the minimap button not wanting to obey the hide rule |
| 21:56.39 | TomCat | yes some have mentioned that - unable to reproduce so far - there must be some sort of error happening that folks are unable to see |
| 21:56.58 | TomCat | so it happened on yours? could you check if it is still doing it? |
| 21:57.22 | nevcairiel | i tried that tours addon when 8.2 came out, the icons were huge and had no size o ptions, i removed it and never going back, reputation ruined! :D |
| 21:57.41 | znf | ^ kind of |
| 21:57.41 | znf | :D |
| 21:58.00 | TomCat | yeah, ok - lol |
| 21:58.52 | TomCat | missed you guys |
| 21:59.34 | TomCat | still settling into the new-ish system after my laptop started glitching out on a regular basis |
| 22:00.02 | znf | I don't get the need for that pop-up, to be honest |
| 22:00.12 | znf | and it annoyed me that I kept telling it to hide the minimap button, but... |
| 22:00.50 | TomCat | it was more useful for darkshore/arathi with the 3-week-ish resets |
| 22:00.51 | znf | and all I got was a pop-up that... had 0 utility? |
| 22:01.09 | TomCat | you can also use it to click by name to get the waypoint arrow |
| 22:01.29 | TomCat | it's being replaced, hopefully by the time I'm done today |
| 22:02.34 | TomCat | the button, for those who use it, will open up the map to the relevant zone with a quest log type window docked to it |
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